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Title: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Oct 2016, 20:41
Wait, no WCDT? What is this, anyways?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Oct 2016, 21:07
I'm down with the awkwardness.

When I read the OP, my automatically mind filled in: "What is this, Bush Week?"

That's because that was what Dad would say to my brothers and me when we were up to shenanigans as kids.

We would inevitably reply, "No, it's Banana Sunday," which would get us into all kinds of trouble if we'd misjudged the seriousness of the situation.

I later learned that the correct response was actually "Yes, and you're the sap." It's probably for the best that we didn't know this at the time.

It's an Australian thing, apparently. Don't ask me, I just live here (or just google it like I had to).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Oct 2016, 21:12
The houk starting a WCDT? WHAT YEAR IS THIS?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Oct 2016, 23:21
I find myself wondering if Jeph is planning to use the occasion of Bubbles' visit to the apartment to answer a few questions about humanform AI chassis. However, I also think that we may have one or two strips where Jeph uses Bubbles and her nature as a way to further explore the others' personalities.

Yeah, Pintsize has a point. Some people can put more threat into a quiet, polite request than others can into imminent physical violence. It's just something Bubbles is good at, I guess.

What's the answer to his question? Well, in engineering terms, if the pubic area of the chassis has the same receiving 'roots' as the scalp then it would be possible to do this. Has Bubbles done this? None of his business and I have no idea why he asked other than to further embellish his reputation as a pervert.

Here's the thing though: The more I think about it, the less Bubbles' chassis makes in-universe narrative sense. Why fit a military chassis with such elaborate cosmetic details? I'm wondering if this is a military chassis at all or whether, in a moment of guilt about what she's been through (both as a soldier and with the scorn and rejection she's received since) someone gave Bubbles a high-fidelity humanform chassis with military accessories in the hope that she'd be able to find some kind of happiness.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: sitnspin on 24 Oct 2016, 00:45
I assume the purpose in giving her human features is to aid in group bonding with her team. Humans are more likely to form an attachment with a being that looks like them than with one that looks more like a machine. Combat units require a tight sense on unity and emotional attachment to work together at maximum efficiency.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Akima on 24 Oct 2016, 01:06
This. Also, this ability to "grow" hair might be part of a more general self-repair facility.

I somehow imagine that few people from whom Bubbles might request an apology would ever refuse.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: anahata on 24 Oct 2016, 05:44
Is Pintsize's reaction because Bubbles is big and scary (i.e. bigger and stronger than Faye), or is it a reference to the mental anguish such a persistently unrepentant character would have to go through to actually apologize for anything? He's been punished for his deeds often enough, but I don't think he's ever apologized.
(waits for someone with time and archive-fu to prove me wrong...)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Oct 2016, 05:46
I assume the purpose in giving her human features is to aid in group bonding with her team. Humans are more likely to form an attachment with a being that looks like them than with one that looks more like a machine. Combat units require a tight sense on unity and emotional attachment to work together at maximum efficiency.

It's either that or a self mod she made after she was discharged.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: brasca on 24 Oct 2016, 05:48
I'm actually more curious if Bubbles' hair fibers can take forms on command.  It would explain why she looked like she was wearing a helmet when we first met her.  As such she could have literal helmet head just by reflex which makes sense considering her former line of work. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2016, 05:54
Is Pintsize's reaction because Bubbles is big and scary (i.e. bigger and stronger than Faye), or is it a reference to the mental anguish such a persistently unrepentant character would have to go through to actually apologize for anything?

I think it's basically because her LOOM puts even Marten's to shame. It's certainly more intimidating than Faye with a rolling pin!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Case on 24 Oct 2016, 07:14
Is Pintsize's reaction because Bubbles is big and scary (i.e. bigger and stronger than Faye), or is it a reference to the mental anguish such a persistently unrepentant character would have to go through to actually apologize for anything?

I think it's basically because her LOOM puts even Marten's to shame. It's certainly more intimidating than Faye with a rolling pin!

Maybe its her very polite and utterly deadpan delivery - or maybe I think so because yesterday, I watched a vid of Eric Bana interviewing infamous Australian Standover-man Mark "Chopper" Read (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_%22Chopper%22_Read) in order to prepare for his role in the movie "Chopper".

The creepy thing about Chopper Read is that he's actually rather amicable and friendly - right until he starts telling his stories and you suddenly notice how he's ever-so-slowly shifting 'into character'. There's a point where Read describes how he went about intimidating a bunch of hardened inmates - utterly deadpan, very politely inquiring "Btw, how is your mother doing these days? Is she alright?" - and you notice how Bana, a rather big and physically fit guy (he played a Navy Seal in "Blackhawk Down") goes from laughing along into making those soft, intimidated "ha" "uhuh" "ha" "umh" noises - kinda like he's thinking "Oh! Fuck! How did I get here? What was I thinking? This is a guy who put the fear of God into the worst inmates of a high-security prison AND HE'S SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Oct 2016, 07:34
Dread of the unknown has always been a far more scary thing than an actual threat. When someone says 'I'm going to smash you in the head with a rolling pin'  you've got some idea of what to expect. Sure they could be lying... but it gives you something to focus on. On the other hand, if that same person (and let's be honest, Bubbles is way more physically intimidating than Faye) is calmly staring you in the eye and saying they are very upset with you, with an edge of threat to their voice but no overt threats... Well your mind starts running a mile a minute over what they could do to you, and you have no idea if they are going to, or what it will be or when it will happen. You just know you're in danger.

It's a trick horror writers and film makers use to great effect. Keep what's going on not well known.  So long as the monster or the killer or whatever is unknown it's much easier to produce scares with just noises or out of place but perfectly ordinary things. See the trope of 'it was just a cat'. The fear of the unknown keeps the protagonist and audience jumping. Once the threat becomes known though, it becomes much easier to focus on. Perhaps not less dangerous but certainly not as scary.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: theMarc on 24 Oct 2016, 10:37
Firstly, why would Bubbles have pubes, Pintsize? More importantly, why would you ask if she has pubes? What sort of delusions are you suffering from that you didn't think that that wouldn't end badly?

Secondly, Goddammit, the commentary under the comic is giving me a mental image of Pintsize having a pube collection. Like, some people collect trading cards, others collect stamps or figurines, but Pintsize has a collector's case for his pube collection. And now I'm thinking about how Pintsize went about acquiring all those pubes. Ugh...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Magniras on 24 Oct 2016, 10:42
It's a terrible context, but a fairly good point has been brought up by pintsize.  Can AI get get pubes installed on their chassis?  I doubt many AI would, but it seems like the kind of thing May would do if she had a higher quality chassis.  Plus there are those AI that want meat bodies, would they go for it?

EDIT:
Secondly, Goddammit, the commentary under the comic is giving me a mental image of Pintsize having a pube collection. Like, some people collect trading cards, others collect stamps or figurines, but Pintsize has a collector's case for his pube collection. And now I'm thinking about how Pintsize went about acquiring all those pubes. Ugh...

Dude, he totally does. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=832)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 24 Oct 2016, 13:02
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Oct 2016, 14:39
I like the way she scares him.  Few do.

The ability to know a thousand ways to hurt Pintsize that a Military Combat AI might know would be a factor in that as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Oct 2016, 15:48
"She's got electric boobs,
and mohair pubes"

For a terrifying example of what a flat delivery can accomplish, see the scene in "Ripley's Game" in which someone insults the main character and he just says deadpan "Meaning?".
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 24 Oct 2016, 15:58
... Goddammit, the commentary under the comic is giving me a mental image of Pintsize having a pube collection.
...

Um, Iceland has a penis collection...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Oct 2016, 16:08
The Museum of Old and New Art in Hobart (MONA) has a collection of plaster casts of vaginas on permanent display. One hundred and fifty of them, to be precise.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Oct 2016, 16:41
So is that Old Art or New Art?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 24 Oct 2016, 17:14
Yes.  Yes, it is.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Oct 2016, 18:28
I agree with Morituri, but to take the question more literally than it was probably intended, I think that the exhibit was created within the last decade or so.

The sculptor was male, in case you were wondering that.

MONA does like to provoke. Is it art, or is it provocation as a substitute for art rather than as a consequence of it? I'll leave you to work that out.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 24 Oct 2016, 21:44
I go off on a really long ramble about how artists shouldn't shy away from writing characters like Claire, because Jeph's comment on today's comic hit a particular nerve. However, it's long and vehement, so I'm going to hide it away under a spoiler bar. Have a great day.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Oct 2016, 21:46
Bubbles... stop being so cute. Do you know what happens to female cast members when they becomes to cute. The Floof sets in.  Then it will grow... soon we will have reached Floofical Mass, and then no one will be spared.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Oct 2016, 22:03
Addendum: Writing them as a novelty or a gimmick, mind, is a different thing entirely and I will fight you.

As far as I can tell, that very difference you've mentioned here, the difference between writing the character well and writing her as some kind of a gimmick, is the main thing Jeph is nervous about. Can you see from your own statement why he'd be nervous? Luckily from us, he hasn't shied away from writing Claire because of that.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Oct 2016, 22:09
I like how she easily Claire found it to talk to Bubbles  especially about her feelings about her transition.  I doubt she has many people she feels that way about.

And yeah, careful there Bubbles, you may cross the Floof Event Horizon.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Oct 2016, 22:31
Bubbles strikes me as a safe person to confide in.

Claire didn't need to explain what gender dysphoria is. That says something about the QC world or at the very least about Bubbles. Maybe all it says is that Bubbles uses her WiFi connection or local databases to look up unfamiliar phrases.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Oct 2016, 22:58
An understanding of issues such as this one strikes me as an excellent leadership quality, and Bubbles has exhibited many leadership qualities, so it would not surprise me if this were yet another.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 24 Oct 2016, 23:06
*snip*

I should clarify that I mean cynical intent more than perceived poor execution. Jephs reasons for nervousness are clearly stated in the author comment text, and are what I was addressing. All the more kudos to him for doubling down on doing her right and not backing down from the attempt.

When I say cynicism I'm more referring to a character that could be summarised as "the token ____", usually used in the context of broadening demographic appeal. But then we're going off on another tangent again as to whether a well written cliche defined by their minority trait is helpful or harmful, even compared to nothing at all, which is a very interesting debate for another time.

Sorry, heading to bed now so I'll be unable to provide further clarification if I've caused any offense or misunderstandings or flat out disagreements. Genuinely very sorry about that.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Oct 2016, 23:24
*snip*

I should clarify that I mean cynical intent more than perceived poor execution. Jephs reasons for nervousness are clearly stated in the author comment text, and are what I was addressing. All the more kudos to him for doubling down on doing her right and not backing down from the attempt.

When I say cynicism I'm more referring to a character that could be summarised as "the token ____", usually used in the context of broadening demographic appeal. But then we're going off on another tangent again as to whether a well written cliche defined by their minority trait is helpful or harmful, even compared to nothing at all, which is a very interesting debate for another time.

Sorry, heading to bed now so I'll be unable to provide further clarification if I've caused any offense or misunderstandings or flat out disagreements. Genuinely very sorry about that.

Before I continue, please know that I'm not in the slightest way offended or upset, so don't worry.

I think that I understand what you are saying when you say that you mean "cynical intent more than perceived poor execution." I agree with what you are saying.

The only problem for the artist is that, to the casual observer/reader, the two cannot easily be distinguished. Someone who perceives poor execution could easily mistake it for cynical intent, especially when someone with cynical intent could easily say the same things Jeph is saying. For all of Jeph's good intentions, he is probably nervous about ensuring that his good intentions translate to the reader.

I have seen many posts on these forums dismissing "good intentions" as far less important than actual deeds. He's doing a good job, so it's easy for us to wonder why he is nervous. But with so many people ready to launch attacks if he doesn't (not necessarily your good self), well, that would naturally make one a touch nervous.

Edit: He probably also feels a sense of responsibility.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2016, 23:28
This is an interesting strip because it probably says a lot about what a trustworthy person Bubbles seems to Claire. After all, this is only the third person we've seen her come out to after Marten (then-crush and now boyfriend) and Emily (best friend). Bubbles must just have this aura of trustworthiness.

I suppose it also says a bit about Bubbles herself that she shies away from believing that her own issues with self-worth and social anxiety are significant or deserving of empathy. Quite simply, someone saying: "I've been somewhere similar to where you are now" is a big help for her.

Yes, most of the people Bubbles knows (except AI vehicles) are much smaller than her. That doesn't mean that 'Small Friend' isn't something that could be unique and personal to the role Claire plays in her life. :-)

Oh, inb4 Zoe starts squealing! :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: TinPenguin on 25 Oct 2016, 01:40
I suppose it also says a bit about Bubbles herself that she shies away from believing that her own issues with self-worth and social anxiety are significant or deserving of empathy. Quite simply, someone saying: "I've been somewhere similar to where you are now" is a big help for her.

This is actually the most significant thing for me. This strip isn't about Claire; it's about Bubbles. Sometimes people with serious issues don't realise the shadow they cast over other people's smaller problems. Sometimes we convince ourselves that our big problem is actually a small one. It's a mark of empathy and generosity to include those people and welcome them into the same boat.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 25 Oct 2016, 01:57
I remember when Jeph asked if anyone was or knew a trans person because he was going to write one into the strip and he wanted to get it right.  I offered my own small experiences, which were filled with both joy and bitterness.

In my own humble experience, I believe Jeph is writing Claire authentically.  Kudos.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Akima on 25 Oct 2016, 02:01
An understanding of issues such as this one strikes me as an excellent leadership quality, and Bubbles has exhibited many leadership qualities, so it would not surprise me if this were yet another.
Bubbles must just have this aura of trustworthiness.

Just so.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: osaka on 25 Oct 2016, 05:19
Bubbles... stop being so cute. Do you know what happens to female cast members when they becomes to cute. The Floof sets in.  Then it will grow... soon we will have reached Floofical Mass, and then no one will be spared.

I think we haven't fully assessed the situation. So far, floof bearers could be crudely defined as "smol kyoot grils".

Bubbles is an 8ft tall robo-valkyrie.

If she reached peak floof there wouldn't be enough space on the strip to fully convey the extent of the floof.

God save us all
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Oct 2016, 05:28
No, no floof for Bubbles but, possibly, longer straight hair that she keeps in a bun at the nape of her neck when 'in uniform'. It would make the visual disconnect between severe, ascetic Mechanic Bubbles and Bubbles the Tea Connoisseur that much more complete.

FWIW, I'd really like to know whether Jeph is taking this scene anywhere special. After all, the Mission of Mercy is done and Pintsize hasn't been hammered out flat so why has Bubbles not decided to go 'home' yet? I'm wondering if Faye has invited her to stay for a while and will badger her to staying overnight ("I'll borrow Hannelore's spare charging cable for you. I don't know why she has a military-grade charging cable and I don't want to know.") Bubbles thus has to deal with a morning in a complex social group for the first time since she was discharged.

The thing is... Can anyone see Faye letting Bubbles recharge sitting in a corner of the lounge?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 25 Oct 2016, 05:45
I would tend to interpret "small friend" not as "small compared to me" but as "small compared to my other friends" - which is probably true of Claire. But that thought leads me to wonder who Bubbles considers as friends. Faye; Claire, apparently - and that was fast; Hannelore, possibly; who else?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Oct 2016, 05:53
Probably not much more than that. Bubbles does not seem the kind of person to open up to people often, or get attached. She does have loyalty to the other fight club robots, but she never seemed friendly with them. Faye seems the first friend she's had in a while... Possibly since the sudden, tragic and likely violent loss of her last group of friends. Wanting to keep people at arm's length is a common self-defense tactic used by people who have lost people close to them, for fear of feeling that pain again. Faye fought hard to get past that shell, to be a good friend to her. Hannelore I think has that capability, maybe she's there in Bubbles' mind, maybe not. And now Claire has opened up to Bubbles and connected with her.. It's becoming easier for Bubbles to interact with people again, even call them friend.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: brasca on 25 Oct 2016, 06:12
This is an interesting strip because it probably says a lot about what a trustworthy person Bubbles seems to Claire. After all, this is only the third person we've seen her come out to after Marten (then-crush and now boyfriend) and Emily (best friend). Bubbles must just have this aura of trustworthiness.

I suppose it also says a bit about Bubbles herself that she shies away from believing that her own issues with self-worth and social anxiety are significant or deserving of empathy. Quite simply, someone saying: "I've been somewhere similar to where you are now" is a big help for her.

Yes, most of the people Bubbles knows (except AI vehicles) are much smaller than her. That doesn't mean that 'Small Friend' isn't something that could be unique and personal to the role Claire plays in her life. :-)

Oh, inb4 Zoe starts squealing! :-D

Actually the 4th that we know of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3185 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3185)

And if Claire can trust Pintsize then Bubbles is definitely safe.  It's still touching and might actually be more for Bubbles benefit since putting her trust in her may make her feel like she's more than just some government murder machine. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 25 Oct 2016, 18:37
For some reason, I get the impression that if we ever get to see Bubbles out of her armour, she'll look very much like Claire, stature-wise.

This isn't realistic, because of their respective heights. More like Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 Oct 2016, 20:07
Claire's 'squee' moment: By eagerly embracing the role of 'small friend', she promotes Bubbles to 'Big Friend'. Friends who are open and honest with each other.

Awesome that such different characters can find common ground.

This is a wonderful comic, and I thank the previous commentators for helping me see why.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 25 Oct 2016, 20:47
I'm glad Claire likes being a Small Friend, if she was a Little Fwend (http://www.littlefwend.com/little-fwend/) she'd have to go around lifting Bubbles's arm all the time. :clairedoge:


Silly joke aside, how does she keep getting cuter? I'm worried she might hit critical mass cuteness and explosively transform into a litter of Corgi puppies.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 25 Oct 2016, 21:19
Noooo, not Corgi puppies!

Poor Marten.  He's terrified of Bubbles, and not in the good way like he used to be terrified of Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: St.Clair on 25 Oct 2016, 22:01
... yeah, that worked about as well as when an angel would pop up, all wings and eyes and wheels of fire, and say "BE NOT AFRAID!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Oct 2016, 23:18
Someone really needs to explain to Bubbles that 'loud and loom' does not communicate 'friendly and peaceful'. :lol: Seriously, though, what makes this funny is you can tell that Bubbles is really, really nervous about interacting with people and that's why she comes on so strong. It's just that 'loud' and 'giant Valkyrie combat robot' are not things that go well together for poor Marten!

I really think that Sam had the right idea: They need to make Pintsize a new head out of memory foam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_foam) so that they don't need to call in a metal-worker every couple of days. Either that or Pintsize needs to clean up his act around people who can cause him structural damage!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Oct 2016, 23:43
Marigold said on Twitter that the military models were easy to repair.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 Oct 2016, 00:04
Either that or Pintsize needs to clean up his act around people who can cause him structural damage!

Crazy talk.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 26 Oct 2016, 00:14
For me, I feel Claire is a realistic trans character because although she brings it up occasionally, its a part of who she is. Her dorkiness, her terrifying powers of librarianship, her love puns and her floofy hair that will one day gain sentience and ddvour the entire QC cast - this makes her a character that is trans rather than a trans character.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Oct 2016, 00:15
What I want to know is what a reindeer was doing with a rolling pin! 

Or a fairy for that matter - but weren't we were told that the damage was caused by the reindeer?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2016, 00:17
@pwhodges,

They'd actually fixed the damage caused by the reindeer. However, immediately after Strip 3336 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3336), Faye put the dent back into Pintsize's head (along with the rolling pin) when he asked Bubbles and indelicate question.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Oct 2016, 00:35
@pwhodges,

They'd actually fixed the damage caused by the reindeer. However, immediately after Strip 3336 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3336), Faye put the dent back into Pintsize's head (along with the rolling pin) when he asked Bubbles and indelicate question.

Oops - blinked and missed it.  Sorry, move along, nothing to see here...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Akima on 26 Oct 2016, 01:10
Marten, try saying "Klaatu barada nikto!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 Oct 2016, 02:32
What Marten heard: "Be Frightened!" ... "Harm!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: brasca on 26 Oct 2016, 06:33
Maybe she's just nervous around Marten.  Her first meeting didn't go that well. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 Oct 2016, 08:03
Maybe she's just nervous around Marten.  Her first meeting didn't go that well.

"Don't worry! She's more afraid of you than you are af... Oh dear ..."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Oct 2016, 08:04
You mean when she loomed over him in a doorway and shouted at him? The dude flinches around Elliot, who is about as much a softie as can be. It's probably mostly luck Marten has fainted in the face of looming Bubbles yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: theMarc on 26 Oct 2016, 08:20
Secondly, Goddammit, the commentary under the comic is giving me a mental image of Pintsize having a pube collection. Like, some people collect trading cards, others collect stamps or figurines, but Pintsize has a collector's case for his pube collection. And now I'm thinking about how Pintsize went about acquiring all those pubes. Ugh...

Dude, he totally does. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=832)
That just raises even more questions. Like "Who else has he collected pubes from?" and "How did he get those pubes?" and "How does one go about getting a restraining order? Hypothetically speaking."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 Oct 2016, 08:53
Secondly, Goddammit, the commentary under the comic is giving me a mental image of Pintsize having a pube collection. Like, some people collect trading cards, others collect stamps or figurines, but Pintsize has a collector's case for his pube collection. And now I'm thinking about how Pintsize went about acquiring all those pubes. Ugh...

Dude, he totally does. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=832)
That just raises even more questions. Like "Who else has he collected pubes from?" and "How did he get those pubes?" and "How does one go about getting a restraining order? Hypothetically speaking."

Ok, I put forth the motion to amend Rule 34 as follows:
* Rule 34 c) "Any and every really disturbing mental imagery relating to the human reproductive system has already been foreseen & realized by Pintsize"
* Rule 34 d) "Though shalt not try to verify Rule 34 c), for your own good"
* Rule 34 e-j) "No, srsly - DON'T!"

Now, where did I put the brain-bleach ...?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 26 Oct 2016, 11:22
Nice and subtle there Bubbles.

Worked well  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: WareWolf on 26 Oct 2016, 12:00
Maybe she's just nervous around Marten.  Her first meeting didn't go that well.

"Don't worry! She's more afraid of you than you are af... Oh dear ..."


But as I also say about Grizzly Bears: they may be more afraid of you than you are of them, but their go-to reaction to something that they're afraid of is to kill and dismember it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: themacnut on 26 Oct 2016, 12:51
I want to call Marten a total coward here, but Bubbles' loud and looming approach is just not friendly. I'd be flinching a couple of steps back just by reflex myself.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: willpell on 26 Oct 2016, 15:43
Strictly as my own personal opinion, the exquisite oversensitivity on display in Tuesday's comic nauseates me.  I will say no more than this.

But as I also say about Grizzly Bears: they may be more afraid of you than you are of them, but their go-to reaction to something that they're afraid of is to kill and dismember it.

Much like humans.  Except bears are less creative when it comes to imagining potential future threats that they should probably annihilate now, just to be safe.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: themacnut on 26 Oct 2016, 16:12
Strictly as my own personal opinion, the exquisite oversensitivity on display in Tuesday's comic nauseates me.  I will say no more than this.

Some people say what they feel and let the proverbial chips fall where they may, offense be damned, etc. Others try very hard not to offend others, especially if they're trying to make friends. Different social circles, different norms.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Oct 2016, 16:47
I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea of someone being offended by the fact that someone else is trying not to be offensive. No offense meant.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 26 Oct 2016, 17:06
"Life's too short to waste it on being offended."

-says the straight white CIS guy. It's easy to be cavalier about things when your privilege bubble is several layers thick.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Oct 2016, 18:50
Comic's up.

It appears there is one thing that everyone in the QCverse can agree on: Faye's butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 Oct 2016, 19:03
I love Marten's deadpan reaction.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: winter on 26 Oct 2016, 19:14
okay bubbles is 10000% gay for faye it was obvious before but there's really no denying it now. i for one wish the new butch/butch-robot couple all the best
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Oct 2016, 19:18
To Pwhodges:

When the comments sound like they are coming from an alternate universe, it usually means I've skipped a comic.

Usually.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 26 Oct 2016, 20:07
I thought it was her boobs that Faye tended to yell about.  Bubbles is so adorable here, being all shy about liking Faye's butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: St.Clair on 26 Oct 2016, 22:06
I love Marten's deadpan reaction.

right now, Marten would agree to just about anything that means he doesn't have to come back into the same room with the big scary metal lady.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Storel on 26 Oct 2016, 22:07
okay bubbles is 10000% gay for faye it was obvious before but there's really no denying it now. i for one wish the new butch/butch-robot couple all the best

I don't think she's nervous about commenting because it's Faye's butt in particular, she's just never commented about anyone's butt before and she's not sure how to without causing offense.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2016, 23:43
After thinking for a few minutes, the thing that I realise that struck me the most about the fourth panel is how natural it all seems - three ladies interacting together and teasing each other. You could see it happen anywhere. The fact that the said three ladies come from the most different and unusual background as you could imagine simply doesn't come into it. They're just friends and that is something that Bubbles needs and deserves; I'm glad that she's found it.

As a side note, based on Claire's reaction to the butt reference, I'm wondering how many times she and Faye have talked about body image and the best way to compensate that has turned into a competition in being outrageous around poor, innocent Marten.

okay bubbles is 10000% gay for faye it was obvious before but there's really no denying it now. i for one wish the new butch/butch-robot couple all the best

I don't think she's nervous about commenting because it's Faye's butt in particular, she's just never commented about anyone's butt before and she's not sure how to without causing offense.

The subject does startle her but you have to admit that it's probably significant that she doesn't quite know what to say. Early-model Bubbles would say: "I have no criteria for judging posteriors" or something like that; this one actually babbles nervously. The thing that strikes me is that there is this noticeable attraction there but that neither of them seem to really be fully aware of what their ease with each other might mean.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Jeph is confirming that Bubbles finds Faye physically attractive.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: NyxDarkness on 27 Oct 2016, 02:16
I just want to say that I support the direction that the relationship between Faye and Bubbles seems to be moving, and I do hope that it will progress further. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Oct 2016, 04:35
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Jeph is confirming that Bubbles finds Faye physically attractive.

For those who might be worried about this remark in light of the forum's official stance on shipping, let me say that I think that this passes the test in that it's a straightforward and arguably justified comment on what's actually shown in the comic.  It may be wrong, as currently it's basically interpretation, but it is not arbitrary or unjustified.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: brasca on 27 Oct 2016, 05:53
It's probably for the best that Faye hasn't noticed Bubbles's blushing.  She's made some progress, but even good natured ribbing might ruin things. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 27 Oct 2016, 05:54
It's probably for the best that Faye hasn't noticed Bubbles's blushing.  She's made some progress, but even good natured ribbing might ruin things.

And Faye does not exactly have a perfect track record of figuring out where "good natured" ends, anyway...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 27 Oct 2016, 07:34
As a side note, based on Claire's reaction to the butt reference, I'm wondering how many times she and Faye have talked about body image and the best way to compensate that has turned into a competition in being outrageous around poor, innocent Marten.
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Oct 2016, 07:47
As a side note, based on Claire's reaction to the butt reference, I'm wondering how many times she and Faye have talked about body image and the best way to compensate that has turned into a competition in being outrageous around poor, innocent Marten.
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
... poor, innocent Marten ...
"Happy birthday, Grandma!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: heyjames4 on 27 Oct 2016, 08:01
Lookit Panel 3. Faye's talking about her bottom. Bubbles is looking at Faye, is she looking at Faye's bottom or just paying attention to the person talking to her?
Claire is looking at Bubbles looking at Faye and covering her mouth as if to suppress a smile.

Then in Panel 4 Claire leans in and leads Bubbles to discuss Faye's bottom.

Is Claire shipping Bubbles/Faye? (#PeachTea)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 Oct 2016, 13:02
Marten, try saying "Klaatu barada nikto!"
Hmmm.... Maybe try "Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong." if that doesn't work.

EDIT: The above "universal greeting" is from Transformers: The Movie, for those wondering. It's also in the giant isopod(?) level of War for Cybertron.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Oct 2016, 13:47
okay bubbles is 10000% gay for faye it was obvious before but there's really no denying it now. i for one wish the new butch/butch-robot couple all the best

With Faye being a Kinsey 0 and Bubbles a Kinsey X this is at best premature.

To me it also seems to devalue the idea of close non-sexual friendship, which we know they have and which is deepening.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2016, 14:42
Time shall tell.

I love Bubbles blushing though. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Oct 2016, 14:52
To me it also seems to devalue the idea of close non-sexual friendship, which we know they have and which is deepening.

That has been a growing pet peeve of mine across several areas of social media over the last couple of years. People and fandoms have forgotten that not every character interaction is or needs to be romantic in nature. At times friendships can have be deeper than romantic relationships, especially when the individuals involved become better for that relationship.

Its somewhat disheartening to see that people are defaulting to the general idea of "Two people?! They gonna bone!", while the idea of friendship rots by the wayside.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2016, 15:10
The thing is, there has been speculation on Human/AI relationships in the Forum on and off for years. I don't remember offhand, but I think that this is something Jeph himself has weighed in on on a couple of occasions (can't remember whether he was for, against or indifferent about it - others with better memories than I can probably give you a better answer on that.)

Whether or not Jeph goes in that direction is entirely up to Jeph.  It would be interesting to see what happens IF he does decide to go that route.  I would speculate it might create the kind of Forum explosion (good and bad) that Claires introduction and eventual hookup with Marten did, but as I say, the ultimate decision on that is in Jephs hands.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 27 Oct 2016, 15:13
To me it also seems to devalue the idea of close non-sexual friendship, which we know they have and which is deepening.

That has been a growing pet peeve of mine across several areas of social media over the last couple of years. People and fandoms have forgotten that not every character interaction is or needs to be romantic in nature. At times friendships can have be deeper than romantic relationships, especially when the individuals involved become better for that relationship.

Its somewhat disheartening to see that people are defaulting to the general idea of "Two people?! They gonna bone!", while the idea of friendship rots by the wayside.

I just wish to add to these excellent points that blushing pretty obviously means socially awkward (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3337) and not necessarily 'romantically attracted', but people, being people, will obviously believe what they deeply want to believe.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Oct 2016, 15:20
The thing is, there has been speculation on Human/AI relationships in the Forum on and off for years. I don't remember offhand, but I think that this is something Jeph himself has weighed in on on a couple of occasions (can't remember whether he was for, against or indifferent about it - others with better memories than I can probably give you a better answer on that.)

If I remember correctly, Jeph said that human/AI sexual relationships were possible in the QC world, but that he didn't intend to ever show one because he wasn't comfortable with some of what that implied. Of course he may have changed his mind on this over the years, but if he has he hasn't said so.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2016, 15:27
True, (and thanks for the memory jog Zeb :) ), but he kept much about Claire under wraps as he slowly unfolded her Story Arc up until he revealed she was Trans, so he might go that route with a possible Bubbles/Faye hookup if he were considering to go down that Storyline.

All speculation of course, and that's part of the fun.  Just so long as we don't go down the rocky road of overspeculation and shipping.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 27 Oct 2016, 15:43
I am open to the idea of a human/AI relationship, but I think that in this specific case, the point that Is it cold in here? made trumps all.

Beyond that, if you really want to be serious about evaluating this, all you need to is to take a look at the way Faye has approached previous potential relationships. These paths were rocky, difficult, fraught with anxiety, exhibited with much defensive sparring from Faye as she felt emotionally vulnerable. Then compare that with the way Faye treats close friends, like Dora. Very relaxed, friendly sparring and ribbing, hugging and openness.

If you truly believe that Faye's attitude towards Bubbles falls into the former category and not the latter, then I would really like to see your reasoning, because it's beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Oct 2016, 16:08
While Jeph has said in the past that he wasn't going to show human/AI relationships, there have been some small hints in the past. Hanner's dad sending her a robo-boyfriend to practice with. Momo getting all hot and bothered about Sven. None of those went anywhere though. I would say some of May's recent showings indicated a change in that, with her desire to be intimate with humans. That doesn't mean anything will happen, or it will be shown if it does. But it does show an evolution in Jeph's attitudes towards the subject.

As far are Faye/Bubbles... I don't think so. Again, May is far more likely to be the subject of a human/AI romance story. I'm not sure if Bubbles getting flustered and blushing around Faye is a reaction to her personality, or an indication that Bubbles has an attraction to Faye. But I'm quite sure Faye doesn't feel that way about Bubbles. She has never shown any indication of attraction to women, be they robot or human. And her interactions are very much like those she had with Dora. Basically, Bubbles has become her best friend. Faye and Dora may be doing better these days, but things will never be as they were. Meanwhile Faye spends all day at work with Bubbles, and invites her to hang out after work. She is very comfortable with her, both socially and physically. Something that was pointed out she feels around friends, but not potential lovers. In the end, I just don't see the Fubble ship making it to drydock, let alone setting sail.

I am also in accord with the feeling that this is going to far. I'm all for gaying up stories more, sure. But just because two people have a close relationship doesn't mean they are going to date or have romantic feelings for one another. I guess that it is an extension of the concept that any time two people of the opposite sex get close in a story, they are going to wind up together. With more acceptance that gay people exist, now it's any time two people are close... Ignoring the fact that most of the people an average person is friendly with are not on the 'I want to date them' list...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: DSL on 27 Oct 2016, 16:51
Shipping? Lools mote to me at this point that Claire is refining her game in the fine old art of Shitting the Bullshitter (in this case, the P. Peach). Faye, meanwhile, is finding out that Marten (always bereft of jealousy) posseses skin that is increasingly resistant to Getting Under.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 27 Oct 2016, 18:08
Marigold said on Twitter that the military models were easy to repair.
Has anyione else noticed that the "The QC Cast on Twitter" link on the latest comic page is bwoken?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 27 Oct 2016, 18:16
okay bubbles is 10000% gay for faye it was obvious before but there's really no denying it now. i for one wish the new butch/butch-robot couple all the best

With Faye being a Kinsey 0 and Bubbles a Kinsey X this is at best premature.

To me it also seems to devalue the idea of close non-sexual friendship, which we know they have and which is deepening.
Bubbles's number on the Kinsey scale is imaginary.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: War Sparrow on 27 Oct 2016, 18:54
Today's comic made me smile. Bubbles has apparently decided she wants Faye's friends to be her friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Oct 2016, 19:03
You meet one person, you meet their friends... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1145)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 27 Oct 2016, 19:05
Bubbles's number on the Kinsey scale is imaginary.
I would have thought it was complex
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 27 Oct 2016, 19:27
Bonding moments. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3279)

Just to save you from hunting for it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Welu on 27 Oct 2016, 19:46
This is a cute strip. I like the detail that Bubbles' idea bulb is a modern energy saving kind.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Oct 2016, 19:48
So...is no one going to talk about the energy efficient light-bulb over Bubble's head?...

Ninja'd by Welu.

Missed opportunity there folks.

That said, she's a bright girl.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Oct 2016, 20:00
I talked about it...but that was yesterday in the Patreon page :P
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Tova on 27 Oct 2016, 20:04
That said, she's a bright girl.

She's certainly quite switched on.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Oct 2016, 20:18
What I'm wondering from this series is.. just how strong is that couch of theirs? Bubbles couldn't sit in the usual chairs at the Coffee of Doom without breaking them. But she's been on the couch for a while without it even groaning.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Oct 2016, 20:25
That couch has been through a lot worse.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Oct 2016, 20:45
If that couch were going to groan it would have a long time ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Undrneath on 27 Oct 2016, 21:25
With Pintsize around they need industrial strength furniture.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Sorflakne on 27 Oct 2016, 21:55
So it just occurred to me, but are the QC characters all just really short?  Looking at Bubbles in relation to the door behind her when she has Marten touch her abs, she has to be around or a tad over seven feet tall (going by the average doorframe height of ~7').  Marten's more or less standing straight up in panel 3, but he only comes up to her chest.  Rough estimation, but if Bubbles is 7', that means Marten's only about 5'1"-5'4", with Faye being about similar height.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2016, 23:16
This is another strip that I had to sit down and think about. Bubbles has clearly decided that letting people into her personal space is a way of reassuring them that she is non-threatening. I'm also wondering if she's mentally assembling a list of things that humans incorrectly assume about her chassis; the 'slinky full of ball-bearings' is two-for-two at the moment.

I'm also hoping at this point that Bubbles makes a comment about Marten and Faye being like siblings in their interactions and similarities; that is certainly something that strikes me on occasion.

So it just occurred to me, but are the QC characters all just really short?

Gotta say that I'm voting 'art error' here.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 Oct 2016, 23:29
With Pintsize around they need industrial strength furniture.
It'd have to be. I wouldn't be surprised if it were held up with cinder blocks.

Though, on the note of strength, what floor do Marten and Faye live on, and how strong is the building's floors?
I'm fairly certain Bubbles has mentioned how much her chassis weighs.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2016, 23:47
Efficiency is her middle name  ;)

A classic moment of friend bonding ensues. :)

And as for the couch it's probably made of Ironwood :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: brasca on 27 Oct 2016, 23:48
It's safer than letting Emily hit her with a mallet. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 28 Oct 2016, 00:14
So it just occurred to me, but are the QC characters all just really short?  Looking at Bubbles in relation to the door behind her when she has Marten touch her abs, she has to be around or a tad over seven feet tall (going by the average doorframe height of ~7').  Marten's more or less standing straight up in panel 3, but he only comes up to her chest.  Rough estimation, but if Bubbles is 7', that means Marten's only about 5'1"-5'4", with Faye being about similar height.

IIRC earlier Bubbles has been said to be 8ft tall, which probably covers everything over 7ft6in. So I suspect that "the doorframe rose to the occasion" (read: Jeph may have copy/pasted a convenient background shot). Somebody here once collected a lot of data concluding that Hanners is the tallest of the girls (Bubbles and Emily had not been introduced at that point) at about 5ft9-10in. Marten is about the same height, Sven something like 6ft2-3in and Elliot may be 6ft5in. I would guess that Dale is also over 6ft - at least he's very climbable.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 28 Oct 2016, 00:15
So, looking forward to next week, anyone care to speculate on what this preview image (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvypW6EXgAEN9G_.jpg) in Jeph's Twitter feed might be about?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 02:09
Bubbles realises that her Abs() have a positive value.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Oct 2016, 05:53
Bubbles realises that her Abs() have a positive value.
Grrrrooooooaaaaannnnnnnn......

Sent from my Nextbook

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 06:20
I like the detail that Bubbles' idea bulb is a modern energy saving kind.
Uhm, those things were so last year and then some.
Heck they were out of date when they were pushed on the mass market as energy saving, which overall they are not if you include their production.
Also they are a major environmental hazard due to toxic phosphors, mercury and the high levels of UV emitted by the cheaper ones. Also they tend to burst into flame at the most inopportune times.

LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
I replaced all the bathroom bulbs last week [kinda broke one and couldn't find a replacement] and boy am I glad I have a high quality dimmer on that light fixture.
Room went for something out of a Bogart film to a clean room inspection suite.
Now I have to repaint the walls or go with wallpaper because you now you can see every [censored] flaw and blemish..... on the walls dammit.


Grrrrooooooaaaaannnnnnnn......
Sent from the floor joists
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Oct 2016, 08:58
Yes, but the problem with LED bulbs is that they look pretty much like old-fashioned light bulbs on the outside. So if Jeph drew one of those the joke wouldn't as clear as it is with a compact fluorescent bulb.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 28 Oct 2016, 09:57
Bubbles's number on the Kinsey scale is imaginary.
I would have thought it was complex
(click to show/hide)
Ah, but do you have a t-shirt that makes such a claim? I have a zazzle link where you can buy a t-shirt that reads, "My number on the Kinsey scale is imaginary."
http://www.zazzle.com/my_number_on_the_kinsey_scale_is_imaginairy_t_shirt-235664311861500216

Also, all complex numbers are at least partly imaginary. How can something be both real and imaginary at the same time? That's a complex question. (as well we a complex number.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Oct 2016, 10:21
Yes, but the problem with LED bulbs is that they look pretty much like old-fashioned light bulbs on the outside. So if Jeph drew one of those the joke wouldn't as clear as it is with a compact fluorescent bulb.

One of the lollipop-style ones might have worked visually.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 28 Oct 2016, 14:59
Mmmmmm lollipops - Hey, threes Kojak! 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Akima on 28 Oct 2016, 17:09
LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Oct 2016, 21:41
LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

Yes, but I imagine what you save over time offsets the cost of getting the LEDs.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Oct 2016, 01:13
the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself).

That seems a lot; I've paid about twice that to replace all the lights in the house, including fittings where necessary.

Yes, but I imagine what you save over time offsets the cost of getting the LEDs.

When I replaced the lighting in our most-used room, the consumption fell from 600W to 48W.  Next time we sent in a meter reading, the electricity company queried it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 30 Oct 2016, 18:20
LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

Now add a 70-year-old house and 50-plus-year-old cantankerous owner who likes things as they were to the mix, and you have my dilemma.

However, to be fair, LED technology has come a long way in the last decade.  I am SLOWLY changing.  Why, I just upgraded to a push button phone!  I'm so progressive!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Storel on 31 Oct 2016, 02:08
LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
They're not exactly inexpensive though. A couple of months ago, I got a quote to replace the ceiling track-lights in my kitchen with compatible LED spots, and the cost was over A$1000 (supply only - I could fit them myself). There were cheaper units, but they would have required me to remove the track, get in an electrician to rewire, and make good the ceiling, so the overall cost would have been much higher.

Now add a 70-year-old house and 50-plus-year-old cantankerous owner who likes things as they were to the mix, and you have my dilemma.

However, to be fair, LED technology has come a long way in the last decade.  I am SLOWLY changing.  Why, I just upgraded to a push button phone!  I'm so progressive!

I can relate. My house (which I inherited from my late parents) is about 90 years old, and sometime back in the Nineties my father had most of the overhead light fixtures replaced with flourescent lights (the old-fashioned kind with 4-foot long tubes), presumably to save electricity. Unfortunately, they don't really save much; each of those 4-foot tubes uses about 40 watts, and all the light fixtures have at least 2, sometimes 4 tubes in them. Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: JimC on 31 Oct 2016, 04:56
The ironic thing about energy efficient light bulbs is that, if you are in a building with thermostat controlled heating, then as soon as the heating is on all the energy saved from incandescent bulbs goes straight on the heating bill, since that energy doesn't go into thin air, but is simply dissipated as heat. So energy savings are rather less than the  headline values would have you believe. On the other hand, if you have airconditioning, the incandescent light heat goes straight onto the cooling bill, so in that case the savings are probably greater than headline cost.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: anahata on 31 Oct 2016, 06:31
Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*
I got compatible LED replacements* for a roomful of 4ft and 5ft fluorescent tubes - no rewiring needed!
(you can optionally short out the ballast if you're VERY SURE that nobody will ever put a real fluorescent tube back)

*Chinese made, "Emprex" brand. I expect they aren't the only ones
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 Oct 2016, 17:12
I like the detail that Bubbles' idea bulb is a modern energy saving kind.
Uhm, those things were so last year and then some.
Heck they were out of date when they were pushed on the mass market as energy saving, which overall they are not if you include their production.
Also they are a major environmental hazard due to toxic phosphors, mercury and the high levels of UV emitted by the cheaper ones. Also they tend to burst into flame at the most inopportune times.

LED lighting systems when implemented correctly are huge energy savers and way brighter than you would expect.
I replaced all the bathroom bulbs last week [kinda broke one and couldn't find a replacement] and boy am I glad I have a high quality dimmer on that light fixture.
Room went for something out of a Bogart film to a clean room inspection suite.
Now I have to repaint the walls or go with wallpaper because you now you can see every [censored] flaw and blemish..... on the walls dammit.


Climate alarmism seems to have had the opposite effect as the environmentalism movement would have wanted. But that's what tends to happen when movements get hijacked by industrialists (see "carbon credits scandal(s)")
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 31 Oct 2016, 18:34
I can relate. My house (which I inherited from my late parents) is about 90 years old, and sometime back in the Nineties my father had most of the overhead light fixtures replaced with flourescent lights (the old-fashioned kind with 4-foot long tubes), presumably to save electricity. Unfortunately, they don't really save much; each of those 4-foot tubes uses about 40 watts, and all the light fixtures have at least 2, sometimes 4 tubes in them. Ironically, now if I want to use bulbs that save much more electricity like CFLs or LEDs, I'll have to hire an electrician first to remove the fluorescent fixtures and reinstall standard fixtures. *sigh*
All hope is not lost - One of my brothers-in-law works with light message systems and one of the products he installs is an LED replacement for the tubes that keeps the fixtures but pulls out the ballast and original mounts. He usually only puts in two for the old 4 lamp fixtures because they are so dang bright. For domestic installations the better dimmers are compatible as well so you can save even more on operating costs while limiting the electrical headaches.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Storel on 01 Nov 2016, 15:47
I got compatible LED replacements* for a roomful of 4ft and 5ft fluorescent tubes - no rewiring needed!
(you can optionally short out the ballast if you're VERY SURE that nobody will ever put a real fluorescent tube back)

*Chinese made, "Emprex" brand. I expect they aren't the only ones

All hope is not lost - One of my brothers-in-law works with light message systems and one of the products he installs is an LED replacement for the tubes that keeps the fixtures but pulls out the ballast and original mounts. He usually only puts in two for the old 4 lamp fixtures because they are so dang bright. For domestic installations the better dimmers are compatible as well so you can save even more on operating costs while limiting the electrical headaches.

Sweet! It never occurred to me that there might be LED replacements for the old fluorescent tubes. Thank you both!

Given how expensive an ordinary LED light-bulb is, I shudder to think how much these will cost. But the cost of LED bulbs seems to be coming down, so if I wait a bit hopefully they'll be more affordable.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 01 Nov 2016, 16:50
Claire didn't need to explain what gender dysphoria is.

Erf?  Why is "gender dysphoria" any harder to parse than "green wallpaper"?  One adjective, one noun, both used in their canonical senses. Well, okay, 'gender' is tecnically a noun, but all nouns can be adjectivized, or we'd have a 'female candidate' instead of a 'woman candidate' standing for the presidency.  I've always admired people for NOT using a euphemism or codephrase for that issue.  For once they're content just saying exactly what it is and leaving it at that. Someone is unhappy about gender.  Period.  It's both true, and (unless it's the specific topic of that conversation) it's all that needs to be said.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 01 Nov 2016, 17:00
I'm just trying to wrap my head around the idea of someone being offended by the fact that someone else is trying not to be offensive. No offense meant.

Berkeley Breathed beat you to it. 
     http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/1982/11/14
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 01 Nov 2016, 17:28
The thing is, there has been speculation on Human/AI relationships in the Forum on and off for years. I don't remember offhand, but I think that this is something Jeph himself has weighed in on on a couple of occasions (can't remember whether he was for, against or indifferent about it - others with better memories than I can probably give you a better answer on that.)

I've gotten asked this on more than one occasion.  I won't go into exactly why right now but it has to do with my work. I'm COMPLETELY sure it would work for a lot of people.  I'm COMPLETELY sure that when there are AI in chassis capable of it, sexual services (or slavery) is probably one of the first major markets (heck, there aren't yet, even, but already some folks get emotionally attached to sex dolls and toys and etc).

Speaking for myself though? I just don't know. 

If I had met the woman of my dreams but she were wearing a mechanical body?  I can imagine being really, really close friends regardless.  I can even imagine being comfortable and deriving great joy from having sex with each other.  But the level of emotional bonding that humans in that circumstance usually get?  It's hard to imagine myself getting there with someone in a mechanical body.  For me a lot of that emotion/attraction link is olfactory, and I have trouble imagining convincing synthetics for it.  It's subtle and complicated and just really, really hard for anything except human skin and breath to create.  So I can imagine a "best friends and sex partners" relationship but it's much harder to imagine the kind of scary, total, out-of-my-power love that I feel for my wife. 

Then again, sometimes we surprise ourselves, or judge our capabilities inaccurately.  After spending a year or so with someone in a mechanical body conditioning might let the olfactory bits get less important to that part of my brain.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 01 Nov 2016, 17:36
So it just occurred to me, but are the QC characters all just really short?  Looking at Bubbles in relation to the door behind her when she has Marten touch her abs, she has to be around or a tad over seven feet tall (going by the average doorframe height of ~7').  Marten's more or less standing straight up in panel 3, but he only comes up to her chest.  Rough estimation, but if Bubbles is 7', that means Marten's only about 5'1"-5'4", with Faye being about similar height.

My mental canon has Bubbles height at 220 cm - or about seven feet eight inches.  Sometimes she seems to loom larger, sometimes lesser.  But in open shots where there aren't a bunch of things to distract the artist or make scale difficult to judge, it seems fairly consistent.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Sullivan on 01 Nov 2016, 19:33
The ironic thing about energy efficient light bulbs is that, if you are in a building with thermostat controlled heating, then as soon as the heating is on all the energy saved from incandescent bulbs goes straight on the heating bill, since that energy doesn't go into thin air, but is simply dissipated as heat. So energy savings are rather less than the  headline values would have you believe. On the other hand, if you have airconditioning, the incandescent light heat goes straight onto the cooling bill, so in that case the savings are probably greater than headline cost.
This is all true, but incomplete. In most locales, heating with other fuels (whether it's natural gas, heating oil, whatever) is much cheaper than heating with electricity. And lights are usually up near the ceiling, which is not where you usually want your heat. So you're better off with the energy-efficient lights even though you're "losing" about 80% of the previously wasted heat. You can buy that heat much more cheaply from the gas or oil supplier.

(Comparison: In my city, natural gas costs about 1.3 cents per kWh. (They actually bill it in "therms" but the conversion is trivial.) Electric energy costs about 10 c/kWh at the cheapest tier.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Storel on 03 Nov 2016, 00:21
So it just occurred to me, but are the QC characters all just really short?  Looking at Bubbles in relation to the door behind her when she has Marten touch her abs, she has to be around or a tad over seven feet tall (going by the average doorframe height of ~7').  Marten's more or less standing straight up in panel 3, but he only comes up to her chest.  Rough estimation, but if Bubbles is 7', that means Marten's only about 5'1"-5'4", with Faye being about similar height.

My mental canon has Bubbles height at 220 cm - or about seven feet eight inches.  Sometimes she seems to loom larger, sometimes lesser.  But in open shots where there aren't a bunch of things to distract the artist or make scale difficult to judge, it seems fairly consistent.

I just remembered that one of Jeph's filler comics a while back was a "spec sheet" for Bubbles's chassis. Did that happen to specify her height? I can't recall.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Nov 2016, 01:23
All those specs did not make it into the wiki.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Nov 2016, 04:03
No height mentioned. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004) Also wow, Bubbles has been around over a year?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 03 Nov 2016, 06:22
Tickle Zone?
But didn't she mention recently that she doesn't have that particular algorithm installed or did she mean in relation to those abs camouflaged as a slinky full of ball bearings?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Nov 2016, 06:26
It's still listed as 'tickle zone' on the manufacturer's schematics. It's just that there's a tiny asterisk leading to a footnote that reads: "NOTE: Users must download operating software patches for all non-standard anthromimietic functions". Bubbles downloaded blushing for some reason but she didn't download ticklish spots.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 3336-3340 (24-28 October 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 03 Nov 2016, 06:45
Wait a sec.

Ticklishness is a response to light touching on specific areas on a body resulting in involuntary twitching movements or laughter. This can be implemented with the appropriate array of sub-dermal pressure sensors and reflex firmware. No need to burden the main processor core with such basic functionality intrinsic to the chassis at hand.

Blushing is the reddening of a person's face due to psychological reasons. It is normally involuntary and triggered by emotional stress, such as that associated with embarrassment, anger, or romantic stimulation. On a technical note, this would require such chromatic variability to be already be part of the the dermal layer. With humans it is an increase in blood-flow in the dermal layers. So that would mean that either that this combat model comes with chromatic variability as standard issue or it is part of a suite of autonomic responses to avoid the uncanny valley effect and thus avoiding the creeping out of the troops in the field. I am thinking that the military, being what they are, the autonomic response was a lucky afterthought and the built in camouflage capability would save on the grease paint and the dermal chemical comparability issues. [Don't want our soldiers faces melting off during recon]