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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 27 Nov 2016, 21:27
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Strip's up and no poll? For shame!
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What on earth does Detective Raccoon think she's doing?
This is a place that is full of fighting robots. The options that are consistent with any officer safety training are staying away and coming in with a SWAT team.
Maybe we should start calling her Clouseau.
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What on earth does Detective Raccoon think she's doing?
This is a place that is full of fighting robots. The options that are consistent with any officer safety training are staying away and coming in with a SWAT team.
Maybe we should start calling her Clouseau.
She wants to go in so she can have enough information to get a warrant to come back with a SWAT team.
Except any information she gets by trespassing in this manner voids her chances of getting a warrant. Absolutely wouldn't be permissable in court, either.
This is really shoddy police work. Seems to be a lot easier to have gone undercover straight out as one of the gamblers, then file for an audit.
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Except any information she gets by trespassing in this manner voids her chances of getting a warrant. Absolutely wouldn't be permissable in court, either.
Would it be trespassing if the rink is a public space? If whatever she wants to use as evidence is in plain view from a public space, she wouldn't need a warrant.
Lilac did tell Faye she was worried about anyone being taken advantage of; Faye indulging her fetish for face meats against May's will might qualify.
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wow, i think the actual Robocop was better at subtlety than this robot cop lady
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...How often does Pintsize go to strip clubs?
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May: "I ain't no charity case."
"I'll take the long nights,
impossible odds.
I'm gonna be a blue-faced robotic woman!"
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I've got a feeling that what Lilac is about to see transpire in Bubbles and Faye's workshop will permanently rid her of any notion that there is a vast criminal conspiracy using the Underground Robot Fighting League as a cover. It's going to be difficult to believe that anything that farcical could be malign.
I suppose that she could spin it as them trying to alter the identity of a convict so that she can slip away from the authorities. That said, doing so without altering May's IFF codes and probably also altering the geometry of her face would be a wasted effort. In order to make the allegation plausible, they'd also have to be able to show that May is trying to claim she isn't who she is, which would be nearly impossible.
On a side-note, if Corpse Witch is confused about the bills used in the fee, I suspect that May only needs to say "I got it from Pintsize". The "Ooohhh!" of sudden comprehension would indicate that all was explained.
...How often does Pintsize go to strip clubs?
Probably quite frequently when a new one opens that doesn't know that he has already been barred from every other one in Northampton. Then very frequently until he is barred from that one too!
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What on earth does Detective Raccoon think she's doing?
This is a place that is full of fighting robots. The options that are consistent with any officer safety training are staying away and coming in with a SWAT team.
Maybe we should start calling her Clouseau.
She wants to go in so she can have enough information to get a warrant to come back with a SWAT team.
Except any information she gets by trespassing in this manner voids her chances of getting a warrant. Absolutely wouldn't be permissable in court, either.
This is really shoddy police work. Seems to be a lot easier to have gone undercover straight out as one of the gamblers, then file for an audit.
But she's not trespassing...
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A twist has just occurred to me:
"Corpse Witch has just been arrested!"
"Arrested? For what?"
"Laundering money from an illegal arms deal! Those $2 bills were marked!"
Bubbles is the cosigner on the lease for the Skate Park; she's the boss now!
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Did she check in with the bouncer at the front door?
What if Clouseau is one of those police officers who think that two-dollar bills are counterfeit?
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Could it be the $2 bills become plot relevant? :-o
You'd think Corpse Witch would know the story behind the denomination seeing as she's in the market for arms (the appendage type (and the fighty type))
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Attention please!!!
Ahem...
Grab her by the face meats!
That is all.
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Thought: How bad does this end for our ex-con on probation?
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I have to agree with May in the final panel.
Faye's doing her a favour, but there's no excuse to get that creepy.
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Thought: How bad does this end for our ex-con on probation?
It depends on what happens; May is very, very small fry who Lilac probably wouldn't even be bothered with if she can snare a big fish. The only thing that she might say to May is: "Get out of here right now and I'll forget that I ever saw you. Oh and stay clear of illegal set-ups in future."
Possibility: Pintsize is a CI for the Massachusetts State Police and helped set up this whole unlikely sequence of events (right down to paying May in tainted cash, knowing that it would end up in Corpse Witch's hands) as part of his own immunity deal.
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I figure the next few pages are going to lead to Faye coming in to see Bubbles, who has the good sense to ask "you were concerned about police involvement here, but you brought an AI on parole to our workspace?" leading to an "oh shit" from Faye.
And cues the timely appearance of Codename Lilac Raccoon.
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Probably unrelated, but there's a recycling center (http://www.cdscrapmetal.com/) where I live that buys scrap metal - and they make a point in their TV ads (as well as on their website) that "We pay in $2 bills!"
That's just the stray thought that I had when seeing that May paid in $2 bills.
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What on earth does Detective Raccoon think she's doing?
This is a place that is full of fighting robots. The options that are consistent with any officer safety training are staying away and coming in with a SWAT team.
Maybe we should start calling her Clouseau.
I have to wonder about the competence of law enforcement in this universe. Considering what Pintsize gets up to he should've been busted years ago.
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Faye's meats :claireface:
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Two theories.
1 - Pintsize is actually a deep cover AI cop, one of the first, whose mission is to uncover and to undermine a growing crime ring in Northampton. The whole wacky personality is just part of the deep cover.
2 - Officer Lilac isn't actually a cop, she's an AI that for some reason never made it as a cop, hence all the glaring mistakes she's making. She's just impersonating an officer so she can get payback against Corpse Witch.
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Thought: How bad does this end for our ex-con on probation?
Her best hope is that Jeph doesn't tend to do dark things.
If it were our world, she could get coerced into being an informant and then caught and killed by the mob. That happens repeatedly.
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2 - Officer Lilac isn't actually a cop, she's an AI that for some reason never made it as a cop, hence all the glaring mistakes she's making.
you're sayingshe's george zimmerman?
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This is gonna be interesting
I sense a Plot Twist coming
Of coures, I could be wrong
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What on earth does Detective Raccoon think she's doing?
This is a place that is full of fighting robots. The options that are consistent with any officer safety training are staying away and coming in with a SWAT team.
Maybe we should start calling her Clouseau.
She wants to go in so she can have enough information to get a warrant to come back with a SWAT team.
Except any information she gets by trespassing in this manner voids her chances of getting a warrant. Absolutely wouldn't be permissable in court, either.
This is really shoddy police work. Seems to be a lot easier to have gone undercover straight out as one of the gamblers, then file for an audit.
She's clearly watched one too many cop movies.
Oh well, looks like CW might be able to use the 'charity work' wild card after all.
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Um, does that panel say what I think it does?
"WARNING: NO OFF BUTTON"
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Now there's no issues with the trespasser theory, for a lot of reasons; Clear invitation and reasonable concern.
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Now everything Clouseau sees is admissible in court.
Uhh, Clouseau? That EMP gun is not going to have any effect on Faye. Something tells me Bubbles is EMP-hardened as well.
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Oh shit, she's got a, um...Wiimote?
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CW seems quite unconcerned. I'm guessing she knows Roko has nothing she can use.
I'm guessing "Raccoon at the door" is a code phrase between CW and Bubbles.
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This paints Bubbles in a weird light to me. The fact that she and Corpse Witch have a code phrase and SOPs for police calls makes it seem less like she's a good person in a bad place and more "willing accomplice".
Maybe she justifies it to herself the way May does, that it's illegal for the wrong reasons, but still.
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I'm guessing "Raccoon at the door" is a code phrase between CW and Bubbles.
Or it could be that Bubbles has told CW about the cop that has been snooping around, about how she trapped her in a garbage can and chased after a raccoon. Which makes it more of an in-joke than a code phrase.
This paints Bubbles in a weird light to me. The fact that she and Corpse Witch have a code phrase and SOPs for police calls makes it seem less like she's a good person in a bad place and more "willing accomplice".
Maybe she justifies it to herself the way May does, that it's illegal for the wrong reasons, but still.
I think its more Bubbles knowing that the cop is going make trouble, not for her but for others. May is a recent parolee, Faye is her friend and there are probably other AIs who are in need of repairs that the skate park provides. Its the lesser evil to deal with the cop via CW than to have the cop come busting in and messing something up.
Which is probably going to happen, something getting messed up.
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Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
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Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
Bear in mind that "Basili" isn't the full name, she got cut off by CW. Could be Basilisk, Basilica, Bastiliatcos, or Bastiliastephloccus (she's Greek, her mother was Galatea)
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Wouldn't an EMP pulse gun take out
Lilac Roko-Basili at the same time as the other AI's? EMP's are not aimable.
Bubbles is on CW's side for obvious reasons: the fighting rink is the sole livelihood for Bubbles and a whole lot of other AI's, and any attempt to implement a dragnet by Roko will inevitably draw in both Bubbles and everyone around. Plus, in comic, Roko has been transformed from a threat to a silly clown.
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This paints Bubbles in a weird light to me. The fact that she and Corpse Witch have a code phrase and SOPs for police calls makes it seem less like she's a good person in a bad place and more "willing accomplice".
Maybe she justifies it to herself the way May does, that it's illegal for the wrong reasons, but still.
I personally feel that although Bubbles is a willing accomplice in a robot fighting ring in spite of her apparent disapproval (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3017), she remains involved because, although she can't stop it from happening, she can at least do some good by providing the kind of chassis repair service to the participating robots that would not otherwise be available to them because they don't have the cash or it's otherwise too dangerous for them to seek repair (because it would expose the activity). Thus she is making a bad situation better. Lighting a candle.
Corpse Witch tolerates what she and Faye do only because they also fit modifications to make the fights more entertaining (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3007). I suspect Bubbles doesn't care for this aspect of her work, but she agrees to it so that she may continue.
She's probably helping May out (in spite of the risk involved) for much the same reason.
Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
Bear in mind that "Basili" isn't the full name, she got cut off by CW. Could be Basilisk, Basilica, Bastiliatcos, or Bastiliastephloccus (she's Greek, her mother was Galatea)
I vote for Bastiliastephloccusexpialadocious.
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Wouldn't an EMP pulse gun take out Lilac Roko-Basili at the same time as the other AI's? EMP's are not aimable.
They're not aimable in OUR universe. Their technology is different and more advanced than ours in some ways. The fact it's shaped like a gun suggests that it is aimable.
Also, It's so weird seeing CW acting nicely.
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Before I invest time figuring out the physics of it, consider that as a job requirement Clouseau might be issued an EMP-hardened chassis.
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Before I invest time figuring out the physics of it, consider that as a job requirement Clouseau might be issued an EMP-hardened chassis.
Fair point, but an undirected EMP would risk taking out innocent AIs and any other electronics in the area.
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Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/rockosmodernlife/images/5/5e/Rocko_Wallaby.png/revision/latest?cb=20130920192204)
(http://www.toddlockwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/basilisk1.jpg)
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Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
Bear in mind that "Basili" isn't the full name, she got cut off by CW. Could be Basilisk, Basilica, Bastiliatcos, or Bastiliastephloccus (she's Greek, her mother was Galatea)
It's a reference to Roko's Basilisk (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk)
Clearly her life goal is to torture everyone who didn't believe in her before she was born. Or something, I'm kind of fuzzy on the concept (i've heard being fuzzy on the concept helps defend against it).
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Before I invest time figuring out the physics of it, consider that as a job requirement Clouseau might be issued an EMP-hardened chassis.
I speculate that it would fire magnetic bolts that would also, uhh, discourage meatbags from disobeying.
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Roko Basilisk.
Hmmm. If I can remember correctly, Roko's Basilisk began in LessWrong, basically as a steampunk version of Pascal's Wager. It was eventualy banned there and then, 'cuz the Streisand Effect, it spilled everywhere else.
So the quintessential claim is that in an indeterminate but inevitable future an almighty superintelligence will punish those whom have failed to help it to exist, by reaching back into the past to punish people who weren't altruistic to its existence. Perhaps you'll only be punished if you knew about the task at hand and, while being able to help, choose not to help; perhaps everyone who knew and didn't collaborate will be punished, and perhaps merely reading about the Basilisk will grant you damnation and hell. Or perhaps not. :psyduck:
In other news, it's my birthday. Yay! :claireface:
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I don't even pretend I understand physics, but a single search on Wikipedia tells me that there are lots of kinds of EMP, and some of them go from point A to point B. I don't know if a gun that shoots lightning bolts is any more realistic though.
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Happy birthday!
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Hands and other appendages
other appendages
How many times has this lady arrested Pintsize?
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Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that our friendly neighbourhood AI detective thinks that Corpse Witch is Northampton's answer to Al Capone... or possibly even the town's answer to The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen version of Fu Manchu.
Yeah, whatever 'illegal' is going on at the arena, it's increasingly clear that Bubbles is a willing participant. Which, given how much she hates the fights, is odd. I'm still wondering if she started out with deliberate criminal intent to get revenge on the world that alienated her and it's become almost a comfort zone for her. As Corpse Witch has already implied, a sort of "you're in too deep to back out now" situation. Would that still work if Bubbles suddenly had a different priority than surviving her post-military life?
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Another possibility that occurs to me: We are seeing the outcome of all those 'Hmmm...' moments.
Bubbles recently spent time at Marten and Faye's apartment, during which time she identified Pintsize as having an ex-military chassis as well as being morally deficient. I'm wondering if they may have had a silent conversation over a military-only short-range RF channel. To what purpose?
It occurs to me that one interpretation of events is that Bubbles may have arranged a sting and triple-cross of a kind rarely seen. She may have set up a series of events that get rid of Corpse Witch, using Roko as the trigger-bot and May as an innocent patsy, whilst keeping her own manipulatory appendages squeaky clean. It would certainly be an interesting development if it turned out Bubbles had that ruthless and manipulative edge to her personality.
My justifications for this theory:
- Pintsize's crack about $2 bills being 'the preferred currency of illegal international arms deals' strikes me as a Chekhov's Gun;
- Prostitution (with Pintsize no less) doesn't strike me as something May would have automatically chosen as a means to earn extra cash to get a new face sheath; I'm wondering if Bubbles may have pointed May in his direction;
- There is no particular reason why Bubbles should have wanted Corpse Witch to respond to Detective Basilisk's presence (there was nothing happening that she wouldn't have seen before) unless Bubbles wanted her in the skate park and in a position to do a spot check.
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Before I invest time figuring out the physics of it, consider that as a job requirement Clouseau might be issued an EMP-hardened chassis.
But so, almost certainly, was Bubbles (hardened electronics are de rigueur in military equipment, I think), and Faye is made of meat not printed circuits. Corpse Witch is standing behind the detective, and so presumably outside the cone of fire, so the only person likely to get zapped is the one she's trying to rescue. I think Detective Basilisk needs an update to her tactical software.
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After officer Basilisk pulls that weapon, I'd say it's a safe bet that her targets are petrified. :claireface:
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I'm guessing "Raccoon at the door" is a code phrase between CW and Bubbles.
Or it could be that Bubbles has told CW about the cop that has been snooping around, about how she trapped her in a garbage can and chased after a raccoon. Which makes it more of an in-joke than a code phrase.
This paints Bubbles in a weird light to me. The fact that she and Corpse Witch have a code phrase and SOPs for police calls makes it seem less like she's a good person in a bad place and more "willing accomplice".
Maybe she justifies it to herself the way May does, that it's illegal for the wrong reasons, but still.
I think its more Bubbles knowing that the cop is going make trouble, not for her but for others. May is a recent parolee, Faye is her friend and there are probably other AIs who are in need of repairs that the skate park provides. Its the lesser evil to deal with the cop via CW than to have the cop come busting in and messing something up.
Which is probably going to happen, something getting messed up.
It doesn't sound in character to me for Bubbles to tell CW about dealing with the cop, let alone to turn it into an in-joke. So it's not that she thought it would be better that CW dealt with it, but that they already seem to have established plans for this situation.
It occurs to me that one interpretation of events is that Bubbles may have arranged a sting and triple-cross of a kind rarely seen. She may have set up a series of events that get rid of Corpse Witch, using Roko as the trigger-bot and May as an innocent patsy, whilst keeping her own manipulatory appendages squeaky clean. It would certainly be an interesting development if it turned out Bubbles had that ruthless and manipulative edge to her personality.
I would actually love this twist, but it would also probably lead to her losing Faye as a friend (unless this comic suddenly took a wildly different tack) and that would basically bring her back to status-quo with Marten and Co, and that would be a shame.
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Corpse Witch doesn't look concerned so more than likely there's nothing there she can use as evidence or she's baited the place with what appears to be contraband, but it is actually legal and will only serve to embarrass Officer Basili when the case has to be thrown out.
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Corpse Witch always comes across as cheerful and upbeat. It's basically her default expression and might have more to do with her chassis than her mood.
In any case, what really does she have to fear at this point? Unless, as I suggested up-thread the $2 bills are marked as part of an attempt by the ATF to trap gun-runners and those who launder their profits, I doubt that there's anything in the arena that a moderately-competent lawyer (and you can bet that Corpse Witch's lawyers are good) couldn't explain away.
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I figure Pintsize uses Jeffersons because arms dealers do and he thinks that's cool, not that he got them from arms dealers. If he actually knew arms dealers, don't you think he would actually have better arms? I mean you can barely see them, they're much smaller than his hands :clairedoge: :claireface:
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My new go-to line for greeting strangers
(and fending off Jehova's Witnesses):
"Hi! Would you like to come inside? We're about to peel off someone's face!"
EDIT: Well, I'm still not the greatest fan of the organization per se, but ... JW are people, just like me. Making fun of them just because I can was not inspired by the better angles of my nature. In fact, it came from a place I really dislike.
Sorry 'bout that.
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I'm probably the only person who has never had a Jehovah's Witness come to my door and is disappointed about that. It seems like they'd be fascinating to talk to! Unless they just shut down when you try to engage in a debate.
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face meaaaaaats
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I'm probably the only person who has never had a Jehovah's Witness come to my door and is disappointed about that. It seems like they'd be fascinating to talk to! Unless they just shut down when you try to engage in a debate.
I haven't had JW's come to my door, but I've read extensively about their discussion methods, and I'm less than eager to talk to them after that. They use some pretty effective arguing tricks, but from what I've heard from friends who did talk to them, they tend to either talk in circles and ignore points made by who they talk to (or should I say, "talk at"?), or their discourse gets short-circuited if you point out the sophistry they use.
YMMV.
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Hm, now I'm imagining how the scene would play out if the JWs came to the door and Pintsize answered. :evil:
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Wait... her name is actually Roko Basilisk?!
:psyduck:
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Wait... her name is actually Roko Basilisk?!
:psyduck:
It's not certain what her full last name is -- as TheEvilDog pointed out, she appears to have been cut off by CW's remark. Basilisk certainly seems plausible, though.
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One other observation about this is that Roko was not intending to go in and arrest people at this moment; she was just skulking and attempting not to be seen (unsuccessfully). So she's trying to wing it with bluster. CW knows this, and also knows there won't be anything actionable in view, so there'll be no probable cause for Roku to go looking for gambling winnings stashed anywhere, or a ledger of bets taken/lost/won.
Taking down a large-scale criminal organization isn't something you do on a whim. Unless Roko has some real info and a plan, she's shooting blanks.
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So if Roko is actually Roko's Basilisk (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk), is she going after Corpse Witch for failing to help her come into existence?
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I figure Pintsize uses Jeffersons because arms dealers do and he thinks that's cool, not that he got them from arms dealers. If he actually knew arms dealers, don't you think he would actually have better arms? I mean you can barely see them, they're much smaller than his hands :clairedoge: :claireface:
It's also a possible reference to the common usage of 2 dollar bills in strip clubs, which feels like a very Pintsize sort of thing.
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At the risk of derailing things with a tangential topic, Roko's Basilisk is not quite the stupidest idea I've ever heard but it's in the top two percent.
In the first place, entropy. Information is continually being destroyed. The idea that sufficient information exists at some future point to make a simulation of me as I am now is a non-starter. And if some God-mode AI will decide it feels like making simulations of people (random people, not specific individuals, because entropy introduces information constraints that place specific individuals out of reach) and torturing them, then that sucks but there's nothing I can do about that.
In the second place, even if the God-mode AI can make a perfectly accurate simulation of me, it won't be me. I'll be dead by that time. The existence of some simulation having my memories, personality, etc, is interesting, but it will be a different person - and for that matter a completely blameless one, since if the thing making the simulation already exists, then obviously the simulation cannot have prevented or delayed its existence.
In the third place, a willingness to modify one's own course of action based on the suffering of a hypothetical simulation is the sole reason for any such simulation to be made. Therefore it is a horribly bad idea to modify one's course of action based on the suffering of some hypothetical simulation. Or to put this another way, if it turns out that I am the simulation, then what the hell was the point of simulating me given that I'm a simulation of someone who has logically concluded that his behavior mustn't be modified in the slightest by doing so?
In the fourth place, this is supposed to be a "Friendly" AI? A friendly AI has such a thing as empathy IMO, and would find such a pastime repugnant.
Just sayin.' The idea makes complete nonsense.
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Wait... her name is actually Roko Basilisk?!
:psyduck:
Shh, don't disturb the time-travelling Singularity!
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I think Detective Basilisk needs an update to her tactical software.
I wouldn't turn my back on Corpse Witch, for example.
Bursting into hostile territory single-handed? Either they don't have officer safety training in the QC world or else it's modified on the theory that the officer can transfer to a new chassis if the current one gets wrecked.
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I think Detective Basilisk needs an update to her tactical software.
I wouldn't turn my back on Corpse Witch, for example.
Bursting into hostile territory single-handed? Either they don't have officer safety training in the QC world or else it's modified on the theory that the officer can transfer to a new chassis if the current one gets wrecked.
Part of the reason for my theory that Roko isn't actually a cop. She really has no clue what she is doing.
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This paints Bubbles in a weird light to me. The fact that she and Corpse Witch have a code phrase and SOPs for police calls makes it seem less like she's a good person in a bad place and more "willing accomplice".
Of course she's a willing accomplice. Whether she wants to be willing is another matter, but so is Faye, and everyone working there as fighter or fixer, who all know it is illegal and regardless of why any one of them is there, they all have a vested interest in not being busted.
'Raccoon' need not be a codeword, or even an in-joke, though. I read it as an off-the-cuff improvisation. Corpse Witch knows Bubbles wouldn't bother telling her about a mere raccoon, so she picks up that there is a more serious threat snooping.
Part of the reason for my theory that Roko isn't actually a cop. She really has no clue what she is doing.
Ah, maybe she just wants to meet Hank the Dismemberer too.
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Part of the reason for my theory that Roko isn't actually a cop. She really has no clue what she is doing.
It'll turn out she works in parking enforcement, and is hoping to break a big case by herself so they'll make her a real cop.
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It's been mentioned before that CW and Bubbles have been aware of Rocko/Lilac snooping around for a while, so it wouldn't surprise me if they did have some sort of Code Phrase for her.
I think that this is where Rocko has her Clouseau moment
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If she is imagining taking down an organized crime ring single-handed then Clouseau is also delusional.
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'Raccoon' need not be a codeword, or even an in-joke, though. I read it as an off-the-cuff improvisation.
Dunno. Go back to http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3331 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3331). Do you see it in a new light? Maybe the in joke was there?
I see it as quite a smart move by CW etc. Officer has just burst in spectacularly on a scene that's legal, bordering on charitable.
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Oh sure it's an in-joke alright, just CW isn't necessarily in. :-P
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If she is imagining taking down an organized crime ring single-handed then Clouseau is also delusional.
We already know she isn't interested in taking down the fighting ring.
What we don't know is what she actually does want to achieve.
Her recent actions certainly aren't illuminating.
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Finally, we know the officer's name! "Roko Basili", hmm, is that a reference to anything? Roko sounds like possibly an anime name.
Bear in mind that "Basili" isn't the full name, she got cut off by CW. Could be Basilisk, Basilica, Bastiliatcos, or Bastiliastephloccus (she's Greek, her mother was Galatea)
Or Jeph could have gone way out there with 'Basilisk-Run'. Which could indicate that Roko is a fan of both Ninja Gaiden and Vurez.
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That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
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That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
Reminds me more of a power tool with a rechargable power pack (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9d/47/dd/9d47dda596b9b055213fb51f183a820b.jpg).
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The weapon looks like a taser to me. We've seen jolts are an effective non-lethal way of incapacitating a robot before. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3098) Not sure how universally effective it would be on all varieties of chassis though.
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Bubbles' facial expressions throughout are my favourite part of today's comic
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Bubbles' facial expressions throughout are my favourite part of today's comic
You took the words out of my mouth.
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Here we are, discussing serious matters like A.I. theory and RoboCops' attempts at infiltrating the illegal fighting ring, and when she finally makes a dramatic entrance... Jeph goes and makes a fart joke.
I love this comic. :laugh:
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If I didn't know better, I'd imagine that you're somehow implying that we overanalyse the comic. :clairedoge:
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Not all....nobody has yet taken over a government or universitys' supercomputer to calculate some thing like the processing power needed for self awareness.
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Not all....nobody has yet taken over a government or universitys' supercomputer...
*glances at the SSH icon on taskbar*
*nervously taps fingers on desk*
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If she is imagining taking down an organized crime ring single-handed then Clouseau is also delusional.
We already know she isn't interested in taking down the fighting ring.
What we don't know is what she actually does want to achieve.
Her recent actions certainly aren't illuminating.
I was thinking of the "big fish" she mentioned to Faye. She seems to believe there's something much larger and darker than Robot Fight Club. Such things are best tackled by organized crime task forces.
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Given Bubbles' expression I don't know if May's app has a deluxe smell feature or pseudo soiling function. I think the former since farting is one thing, but replacing her pants is another.
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I'm pretty sure that the police report on this one will go in the big filing cabinet under 'fiascos'. So, was it Faye or did May trigger her App and, if so, why? I suspect that it was May and this was an attempt on her part to 'diffuse tension'. You only need to look at Bubbles' expression in panel 4 to see what she thinks of that idea.
That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's wrong. Shouldn't her right thumb be on the other side of the gun's body?
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I'm pretty sure that the police report on this one will go in the big filing cabinet under 'fiascos'. So, was it Faye or did May trigger her App and, if so, why? I suspect that it was May and this was an attempt on her part to 'diffuse tension'. You only need to look at Bubbles' expression in panel 4 to see what she thinks of that idea.
That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's wrong. Shouldn't her right thumb be on the other side of the gun's body?
No? Why would you want your thumb in the way of the slide where it will get broken the first time you pull the trigger?
As for the rest of it, that looks like a fair representation of the Weaver Stance they teach to cops to minimise recoil recovery time and stabilise aim. Unlike the goofy over-under version you see in film and TV.
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It looks like she's holding a taser, but the barrel is pointing at the floor...
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No? Why would you want your thumb in the way of the slide where it will get broken the first time you pull the trigger?
Um... No. I wasn't even suggesting that. Not on the back of the gun on the other side of the body, around the other side of the handgrip like any creature with an opposable thumb would hold something.
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That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's wrong. Shouldn't her right thumb be on the other side of the gun's body?
No? Why would you want your thumb in the way of the slide where it will get broken the first time you pull the trigger?
What slide? According to Jeph's note on Tuesday's strip, this is an "electromagnetic pulse pistol". Fairly sure those don't eject any cartridges, therefore no slide.
As for the rest of it, that looks like a fair representation of the Weaver Stance they teach to cops to minimise recoil recovery time and stabilise aim. Unlike the goofy over-under version you see in film and TV.
Why would you need to worry about recoil from an EMP gun? No solid projectiles, no recoil.
Which pretty much supports the theory that Officer Roko is not terribly competent.
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Wouldn't an EMP pulse gun take out Lilac Roko-Basili at the same time as the other AI's? EMP's are not aimable
Depends how they're generated. And... I can't say much more, even though it's been 30 years.
Although a taser-like weapon would qualify. Its a lot easier making a conductive path using copper wire than brute force and megavolts.
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I've previously theorised that the existence of AIs have impelled the development of directed energy weapons technology, using superconducting electromagnetic wave-guides to force the flux out in a tight and directional cone rather than having a spherical area of effect. This particular weapon is EMP gun - which is probably restricted to police and military use for obvious reasons. However, I also think that civilians can get 'Robot Repellers', which generate an RF signal that interacts with an embedded override code in an AI's chassis that forces them to retreat from the source of the signal.
I find it unlikely that police and military chassis would have the override code installed (again, for obvious reasons). So, such a weapon would likely be ineffective on Bubbles and Pintsize. This means that Pintsize is effectively immune to a widely-available 'Robot Pepper Spray'; this would explain an awful lot about him and the amount of physical damage he suffers on a regular basis.
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According to Jeph's note on Tuesday's strip, this is an "electromagnetic pulse pistol".
It also said "by NERF". I wouldn't take those notes as canon, just amusing.
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Although a taser-like weapon would qualify. Its a lot easier making a conductive path using copper wire than brute force and megavolts.
Hey, "brute force and megavolts" is my preferred problem-solving technique! :-D
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Although a taser-like weapon would qualify. Its a lot easier making a conductive path using copper wire than brute force and megavolts.
But lightning is so much more fun!
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Not all....nobody has yet taken over a government or universitys' supercomputer...
*glances at the SSH icon on taskbar*
*nervously taps fingers on desk*
Down, boy. You know how crazy the pols on Capitol hill get about the "Wisconsin Idea" thing...
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My guess is she is a cop but either lower ranking and this isn't her right role or it is but she was told to leave it be as it's not a real problem, or CW paid off the right people and they told her to leave it be.
I think she's investigating due to a friend or loved one being tied up in it and she's making it personal and trying to get it shut down/investigated due to that.
Or this is just playing her as an idiot that doesn't know what she's doing and it'll be laughed off later, like some of the early stuff with Pintsize and the feds or the Vespa Avenger thing :)
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Bubbles' expressions interest me. In the first two panels, she appears to be looking past Roko - towards CW, perhaps? In the final panel, she looks as though she'd be wrinkling her nose if she could - and we know she has a good sense of smell. It looks to me as though either May's app has olfactory as well as auditory capacity, or else it really was Faye.
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Bubbles' facial expressions throughout are my favourite part of today's comic
"Omg officer! Pleaseplease don't use that crappy taser of yours on my superconducting dermal armour *stiflesyawn*"
"Hmmmmh ... if she hurts Faye or May I might have to take her face off ... "
"She. Did. Not."
"I want back into the Army ..."
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Panel 1: "Oh joy, the garbage lady is going all out."
Panel 2: "Did I leave the induction dermal heating unit on?"
Panel 3: "What the...."
Panel 4: "I can not believe I once thought I could be a classy person."
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The other EMP-related question is even if they have a way to aim it, you still have to generate a shit-ton of energy to make it happen. The implied energy-density you'd need in something the size of that silly popgun-pistol suggests that QC tech can make batteries that last for years at high discharge, and which never need charging. Have to wonder why Bubbles ever bothers recharging.
In-comic, Roko's pistol is tiny and the the opposite of menacing, at least to look at. Her hyper-aggressive stance suggests someone desperately trying to be intimidating (think of a kitten arching its back); the rest of them look suitably unimpressed, (maybe except May). Roko seems destined for continual humiliation, like the Thompsons in Tintin, or a robotic version of Barney Fife.
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The other EMP-related question is even if they have a way to aim it, you still have to generate a shit-ton of energy to make it happen. The implied energy-density you'd need in something the size of that silly popgun-pistol suggests that QC tech can make batteries that last for years at high discharge, and which never need charging. Have to wonder why Bubbles ever bothers recharging.
In-comic, Roko's pistol is tiny and the the opposite of menacing, at least to look at. Her hyper-aggressive stance suggests someone desperately trying to be intimidating (think of a kitten arching its back); the rest of them look suitably unimpressed, (maybe except May). Roko seems destined for continual humiliation, like the Thompsons in Tintin, or a robotic version of Barney Fife.
There is a full explanation here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE)
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Well that certainly broke the tension
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Bubbles' facial expressions throughout are my favourite part of today's comic
You took the words out of my mouth.
... do you want them back?
No? Why would you want your thumb in the way of the slide where it will get broken the first time you pull the trigger?
Um... No. I wasn't even suggesting that. Not on the back of the gun on the other side of the body, around the other side of the handgrip like any creature with an opposable thumb would hold something.
No, having the thumb and fingers on the same side of the grip is a pretty standard way to hold a pistol with two hands for the reason stated above.
As to why with a pistol that doesn't have a slide, I'd imagine they train on conventional service pistols too, so why learn bad practices if you transition back and forth?
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like the Thompsons in Tintin,
Nearly; but they're not the Thompsons, they're Thomson and Thompson (in French: Dupond et Dupont - but I reckon it works even better in English!).
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Although a taser-like weapon would qualify. Its a lot easier making a conductive path using copper wire than brute force and megavolts.
But lightning is so much more fun!
Andrei Sakharov is best known for his work on H-Bombs. But he also did work on conventional explosive pumped MHD devices for directional EMP in the 50s. At one time in the Cold War, we were exploring the possibility that the opposition may have stand-off warheads initiating outside close in weapons system range that would basically shoot lightning to fry electronics.
The maths didn't work out though. EMP shielding adequate for lightning strikes at sea and to protect against EMP from exoatmospheric nukes was more than adequate to deal with any feasible MHD bolt at that range. Closer, and a conventional explosive would do as much damage, and be a lot cheaper, more reliable, and easier to store safely.
And.. that's the limit of the unclass data on it.
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According to Jeph's note on Tuesday's strip, this is an "electromagnetic pulse pistol".
It also said "by NERF". I wouldn't take those notes as canon, just amusing.
I just took that to mean he designed its appearance after some variety of NERF gun, since there are a lot of those and it does look rather toylike.
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It could be either!
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Turn out, it's actually her breath spray. She's just hoping nobody calls her on the bluff.
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That's one of the goofiest grips on a handgun I've ever seen.
Yeah, it's wrong. Shouldn't her right thumb be on the other side of the gun's body?
No? Why would you want your thumb in the way of the slide where it will get broken the first time you pull the trigger?
What slide? According to Jeph's note on Tuesday's strip, this is an "electromagnetic pulse pistol". Fairly sure those don't eject any cartridges, therefore no slide.
As for the rest of it, that looks like a fair representation of the Weaver Stance they teach to cops to minimise recoil recovery time and stabilise aim. Unlike the goofy over-under version you see in film and TV.
Why would you need to worry about recoil from an EMP gun? No solid projectiles, no recoil.
Which pretty much supports the theory that Officer Roko is not terribly competent.
In both cases, the answer is because officers are first trained in the "right" way to shoot a firearm until it's basically reflex because it's the more dangerous device, both to themselves and others, and training a second set of reflexes on top of that has generally been considered a waste of resources when the same grip will continue to work well enough.
Equally, coming up with another set of training protocols for AI officers would also likely be considered a pointless waste by the traditionally highly conservative police service, right until either the proportion of serving robot officers hits some kind of relatively high threshold or one achieves enough seniority to push the idea themselves.
Basically "if it works, don't fix it" multiplied by bureaucracy.
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According to Jeph's note on Tuesday's strip, this is an "electromagnetic pulse pistol".
It also said "by NERF". I wouldn't take those notes as canon, just amusing.
I just took that to mean he designed its appearance after some variety of NERF gun, since there are a lot of those and it does look rather toylike.
Hmm, my Google image search for nerf guns (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=618&q=nerf+guns&oq=nerf+guns&gs_l=img.3..0l10.1614.3220.0.3433.9.8.0.1.1.0.127.900.0j8.8.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.9.897.jZWkgureaOc) shows an awful lot of toys that actually look larger and more elaborate than what Officer Roko's got there. Either Jeph's model was a much older NERF gun, perhaps left over from his childhood, or my theory has been... shot down. :claireface:
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In both cases, the answer is because officers are first trained in the "right" way to shoot a firearm until it's basically reflex because it's the more dangerous device, both to themselves and others, and training a second set of reflexes on top of that has generally been considered a waste of resources when the same grip will continue to work well enough.
Equally, coming up with another set of training protocols for AI officers would also likely be considered a pointless waste by the traditionally highly conservative police service, right until either the proportion of serving robot officers hits some kind of relatively high threshold or one achieves enough seniority to push the idea themselves.
Basically "if it works, don't fix it" multiplied by bureaucracy.
Aha, excellent points. Thank you! 8-)
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So if Roko is actually Roko's Basilisk (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk), is she going after Corpse Witch for failing to help her come into existence?
Alt link (https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk) if the above doesn't work.
It sounds like someone using mathematical theorem type logic for philosophy.
(Watch the tail end of How to count past infinity (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88))
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Officer Roko is inept. She has screwed up in ways that could easily have cost lives (mostly her own), mostly by failing to consider tactics, exit strategies, cover, and backup. Rushing in past CW as she has here, for example, sets up CW to shoot her in the back of the head if so inclined and armed. It's the sort of move that works if and only if you have a partner covering things from the door. But if she has a partner, the partner is staying home here.
I still have a soft spot for Roko, because she's got courage (even if it's stupid courage) and she's clearly one of those who isn't on the take.
These 'open secret' kind of establishments - brothels, illegal fight rings, etc, where the customers have to know where to find it and therefore the cops know too but they never seem to get shut down - IMO can only exist because the operators have identified the right person to bribe or blackmail and the right thing to bribe or blackmail them with. This could be the police chief who can deploy officers elsewhere, or a judge who can refuse to issue warrants, or a DA who can decline to prosecute, or a judge who can refuse to convict, or even the actual could-have-been arresting officers (although that last is rare because it's so unreliable).
Roko's repeated failure to call for backup means, to me, that the police are actively being directed elsewhere. She's on her own here. I mean, it could also be explained by unbelievable stupidity, but if she were that stupid she'd have trouble getting dressed in the morning. She's the only one here because she's the only one who isn't giving up on the 'untouchable' establishment someone dirty is taking bribes to protect.
She might be glory-hounding, she might be inept, she might be inexperienced, but she might just be one of the only honest police officers the town has got.
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She'll probably make Commissioner
(Yes, that was a Dark Knight reference)
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That just pretty much explains why I don't believe that Roko is actually a cop. She's making so many mistakes, doing things recklessly and without forethought.
That the shop is still open probably indicates that the local police are fully aware that it exists, but because people and AI aren't in any real danger, they might turn a blind eye to it, or might be told (or bribed) to leave it alone. In their eyes, it might be a case of starting something that will only get worse before it gets better.
And comic is up. CW knows that Roko has wasted her efforts, nothing she can see can be linked to illegal activities, save for some OSHA failure. All she has done is made an already wary person know exactly who is watching her.
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Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is. Interesting tactic.
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So will Corpse Witch crab them out for letting May lead Roko into the place, or will she think that having May there as an obvious innocent recipient of services helped throw Roko off the scent? Tune in tomorrow...
Roko really is an amateur; why skulk around neighboring buildings with binoculars when you could just go undercover as a fight club fan? I should think an investigative AI would have built-in video recording capability to record whatever she saw. (Though apparently it's hardly necessary; videos of the fights are up on YouTube.)
Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is. Interesting tactic.
Rubbing Roko's nose in it, more like. Roko will either give up or become even more determined. If the former maybe Roko will end up going into the ring for money.
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Love the title.
"Player piano?"
"Play yer own god-damned piano!"
Corpse Witch is on a (piano) roll. Hitting all the right notes, as programmed.
And of course Roko is the one that got played.
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I hope one of the jet-powered flying roombas we haven't seen in a while has acquired a webcam and makes money taking videos of the fights to post to youtube.
'Cause the perspectives would be awesome, that's why. Shaky-cam annoys you? Here's jet-powered indoor flying cam! There's no way something like that could have a stall speed under 80mph, and if it's maneuverable enough to stay indoors, I just gotta think the video perspective would be ... interestingly dynamic.
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Lotta crowd shots, though.
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Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is. Interesting tactic.
But not explicitly stating it, which is what matters legally.
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Bubbles' facial expressions throughout are my favourite part of today's comic
She looks like she's thinking "well that's all the f's I have to give, come back tomorrow." And then the "virtual facepalm".
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Welcome, new person!
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Corpse Witch, old girl? If you were as smart as you clearly think that you are, you'd know that being condescending to a cop is probably a very, very bad idea. I strongly suspect that she's pretty much triggered an avalanche of petty annoyances from mid-level officialdom at this point!
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This may have been brought up but anyone else wondering why Corpse Witch seems to have such a low-grade chassis?
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Man, turns out you don't even need an EMP weapon to shut down an android.
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Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is.
Well... She's certainly implying that the fix is well and truly in, but it might not be bribery as such. Blackmail is another possibility, at least.
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Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is.
Well... She's certainly implying that the fix is well and truly in, but it might not be bribery as such. Blackmail is another possibility, at least.
Or if the police are sufficiently corrupt, there's also partnership. Half of the quasi-legal businesses in my area are co-owned by cops.
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it might not be bribery as such. Blackmail is another possibility, at least.
Or it might just simply be that some senior people at the town hall and police are fans of the robot fights too... Bribery and blackmail are unreliable and dangerous, but fandom is a way of life...
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So will Corpse Witch crab them out for letting May lead Roko into the place, or will she think that having May there as an obvious innocent recipient of services helped throw Roko off the scent? Tune in tomorrow...
Roko really is an amateur; why skulk around neighboring buildings with binoculars when you could just go undercover as a fight club fan? I should think an investigative AI would have built-in video recording capability to record whatever she saw. (Though apparently it's hardly necessary; videos of the fights are up on YouTube.)
Corpse Witch basically admits to Roko that she's bribing at least one person far higher up the chain of command than Roko is. Interesting tactic.
Rubbing Roko's nose in it, more like. Roko will either give up or become even more determined. If the former maybe Roko will end up going into the ring for money.
Or maybe Faye if she overheard Corpse Witch's conversation will try to persuade her to do further repairs on AIs as a cover.
This may have been brought up but anyone else wondering why Corpse Witch seems to have such a low-grade chassis?
Not everyone who's involved in organized crime is flashy. The smart gangsters maintain a low profile.
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For the record, the real-life Northampton PD has a reputation as one of the cleaner departments in Massachusetts. Nothing like the level of corruption that reportedly exists in Somerville or New Bedford, to give two of the more notorious examples.
Yeah, I know, QC Northampton bears only a faint relationship to RL Northampton at times.
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It suddenly occurs to me that Corpse Witch may have made a huge strategic error. She's assumed that Detective Basilisk is a local cop but she isn't; she's in the Massachusetts State Police and Corpse Witch has just basically admitted that she's corrupted the local government and police. The next step? FBI and State Police suddenly start picking up major local public figures in response to arrest warrants from the Massachusetts AG.
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Except Roko explicitly identified herself as a statie.
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It suddenly occurs to me that Corpse Witch may have made a huge strategic error. She's assumed that Detective Basilisk is a local cop but she isn't; she's in the Massachusetts State Police and Corpse Witch has just basically admitted that she's corrupted the local government and police. The next step? FBI and State Police suddenly start picking up major local public figures in response to arrest warrants from the Massachusetts AG.
Roko identified herself as state police so I hardly see CW forgetting that little detail. This could mean that she happens to know her superior in the state police thus implying that she has friends in higher places than the sheriff's department.
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Basilisk doesn't strike me as any sort of cop muckey-muck. She's alone on a stakeout detail wearing a hoodie. I see no evidence of preparation, backup or clout. She just got led by the nose through the perp's headquarters and came out empty-handed. Beyond all that, she's kind of dumb (to quote Claire).
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This may have been brought up but anyone else wondering why Corpse Witch seems to have such a low-grade chassis?
I figured there are three or four fairly good reasons potentially
1) in anonymity there is strength: Basically she uses a low grade chasis because it's inconspicuous. It isn't flashy or super noticeable. Most AIs likely have similar chasis.
2) Underestimation: Entirely possible it only looks low grade, it might actually be fairly upgraded and advanced, just looks fairly low grade and nonthreatening.
3) Sentiment: Might have been her original body, doesn't want to abandon it
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any sort of cop muckey-muck.
I have no idea what this means.
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This may have been brought up but anyone else wondering why Corpse Witch seems to have such a low-grade chassis?
In addition to good reasons already listed, the chassis might be a helpful illustrative tool for Jeph. First, it's seems like it would be pretty quick and standard to draw. Second, Corpse Witch becomes kind of intimidating in that every line she delivers is given with the same facial and body expression which is facilitated by the lack of complexity in her chassis. Gives her a kind of icy and level-headed air.
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Can someone please explain the origin of the name "Corpse Witch?" It seems to be a nickname invented on the forum, but even Jeph is using it.
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Jeph used the name 'Corpse Witch' in the footer note of the strip that introduced the character. It's the closest thing we have to a canon name for her.
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Here is the specific strip. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3007) Actual in the title at the top because it's from before footer notes and that feels so long ago. :o
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May not have been planned. but this may have shot Rokos investigation all to hell
I think tht CW is gonna be somewhat happy with how this turned out.
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any sort of cop muckey-muck.
I have no idea what this means.
Not of high rank or status.
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Cheers.
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May not have been planned. but this may have shot Rokos investigation all to hell
I think tht CW is gonna be somewhat happy with how this turned out.
I think it's more likely we're going to see the abrupt contrast from the cheery facade to her bawling out Faye and Bubbles for putting her at risk like that.
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There's that panel of gauges and buttons with the mysterious warning again.
I wonder what it does?
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Comic's up and the Pugnacious Peach is back.
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Damn, Faye. That's going to give you some major knuckle bruises.
Anyone see that coming? I thought Bubbles would do the punching.
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Hoo boy
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Ah, I love you, Faye. Thanks for doing what I wish I could.
I thought Bubbles would do the punching.
Bubbles has far too much self control for that, even if CW did deserve it.
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It would seem that there may be more power plays in the works. I suspect Corpse Witch will tell Faye she's fired, but if she and Bubbles threaten to leave and/or phone an anonymous tip to the police this will either compel CW to keep her employed, but the disagreement will not be forgotten or she will reveal that Bubbles is far more complicit and would not escape if she's busted.
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RIGHT HOOK!
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Two thoughts:
1. Ow.
2. So ends Faye's time at the robot fights.
Questions:
1. Will Bubbles stay, or join Faye on the outside?
2. Will May ever learn any self control?
3. Is this the beginning of a beautiful friendship?
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Two thoughts:
1. Ow.
2. So ends Faye's time at the robot fights.
Questions:
1. Will Bubbles stay, or join Faye on the outside?
2. Will May ever learn any self control?
3. Is this the beginning of a beautiful friendship?
Find out next time; same bat time, same bat channel!
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That looks like it's been building for awhile.
I wonder if Faye might have to fight a few robots to keep her job.
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Now the question is whether Dora feels bad enough about the Canadian booze incident to give Faye her CoD job back
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I think that ship has sailed. Aside from her boss Faye likes what she's been doing now. Moreover, Coffee of Doom is fully staffed so Dora would have to either fire or cut everyone's hours just to give her a job.
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YEEEAH!! Take that bitch!!! :-D
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Ugh that hurt my hand just looking at that punch.
I was a bit disapointed there was no crazy color spirals like the Faye/Padma battles. :psyduck:
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I wonder if Faye might have to fight a few robots to keep her job.
I would doubt it. Corpse Witch isn't stupid, and she's not so impulsive as to put her business at risk like that.
AI fights: hammer out some dents, patch up some holes in the chassis, and the AI is good as new. Couple days, tops, they're ready to fight again.
Faye fights, she's gonna get bruised. Maybe get some broken bones. And she's got no incentive to keep her mouth shut when the docs ask how it happened. Meanwhile, that's lost productivity with the AIs as one of her repairfolk is limited as to what they can do in the shop.
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(mod)Do people feel unwelcome seeing a gendered insult when it's directed at a synthetic?(/)
I'm just imagining Faye's next job interview. "What was your reason for leaving Coffee of Doom? Oh. Well, what was your reason for leaving the skate park?"
How fast does Bubbles think and move? Is it significant that she didn't intervene as The Pugnacious Peach wound up and swung? "Caught by surprise" is a bad failure mode for a military brain and body in a violent situation.
Is Corpse Witch thinking along the same lines I am?
"Breathe a word of this" -- a word of what? The fight club is already an open secret with official protection, and May has no idea about the "big fish" that Clouseau thinks are behind it. May simply doesn't know anything that Corpse Witch needs to keep secret.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm interested to see how CW reacts to this, but my biggest question is how Bubbles reacts. I have a feeling her now-commonly-calm demeanor is going to fly out the window.
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And Faye cuts the Gordian knot.
Things are gonna get interesting.
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I think CW is shrewd enough to figure out she misjudged that situation, and patient enough to realize that no real harm was done and Faye now has that out of her system. We'll see, but she didn't get to be the boss around there by having a short temper.
On the other hand, CW having a fit would be the optimum outcome in this scenario. She strikes me as the sort of person who takes this revenge stuff pretty seriously, and would very patiently spin a web to entrap Faye and utterly destroy her, especially if she thought Faye was becoming a liability.
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"Breathe a word of this" -- a word of what? The fight club is already an open secret with official protection, and May has no idea about the "big fish" that Clouseau thinks are behind it. May simply doesn't know anything that Corpse Witch needs to keep secret.
An open secret is still a secret in its own way. The cops might be bought, but they might not know the full extent of how far CW's establishment goes.
In any case, she's probably just preemptively shutting May up with a threat.
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(http://www.clipartkid.com/images/265/31-pow-sign-free-cliparts-that-you-can-download-to-you-computer-and-c6LafS-clipart.jpeg)
Alternative: DANG!
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Oh hey good to see Faye is getting into the Christmas spirit
Deck the hell out of the Corpse Witch
Fa la la la la la la la la
That is how the carol goes, right?
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I think that we all needed this to remind us that, in her heart, Faye is a good person and won't stand for anyone being victimised, no matter what that would personally cost her. Meanwhile, it will tell us a lot about the structure of Corpse Witch's chassis to see who has suffered the worst damage here - her jaw or Faye's fist.
Now, I'm wondering if this will mean Faye is fired or if it will mean that Corpse Witch knows that she can control her: Threaten her friends and she'll do things that normally she wouldn't. That revenge will, of course, start with Faye having to stay on to repair every little dent and tear in her boss's face, no matter how badly hurt her hand is. Otherwise, May will have a short and fatal meeting with a trash compactor.
"Ooohhh... Now that's interesting. Now I know what it will take to provoke you to violence! I wonder... What else would you do if a friend of yours was in trouble? Just how dirty are you willing to let your hands get?"
Of course, there is no guarantee that Corpse Witch will have the manpower (or botpower) on her side to carry out her threats or even make them plausible. Overall, it's what Bubbles does on Monday that will be most important to deciding what the long-term consequences are for this.
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New theory.
CW attempts to retaliate against Faye, only for Bubbles to step in and crush her AI core.
Unfortunately, we're now left with a dead AI, a near rabid cop lurking around and three people up a creek without a paddle.
Which ultimately means the long awaited QC tribute to Weekend At Bernie's! Let the fun times and shenanigans commence!
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This strip made me notice that nobody punched Faye in the face throughout this webcomic. Huh.
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Possible eventual outcome:
The robot fights end, and Bubbles and Faye start a business as an AI hospital/cosmetic surgery clinic.
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I think Faye's just fired, period. Punch your boss, get fired. ("Into the sun.")
CW's threat to May is hollow, IMHO. Once Faye is out, she has no incentive to keep CW's secrets. Faye could go blab to Roko, and get CW in much worse trouble than May, who after all had good reason to go there for dermal repairs. Faye could ask for immunity, and include May in the deal, provided they bring down CW.
This all depends a bit on Bubbles deciding to leave her employment at the fights. We'll see if that happens.
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Biggest cliffhanger ever.
And now we get to [hopefully] see the true face and capabilities of Corpsebot.
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This strip made me notice that nobody punched Faye in the face throughout this webcomic. Huh.
I believe you're right! Oh, wait, Padma broke her glasses.
Welcome, new person.
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Ohhh shit. I wonder who Corpse Witch will now consider throwing under the bus.
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Cue Airplane! gif with some crap hitting a rotating fan...
I also get a fashback of Alita/Gally nailing Colonel Paine with an electromagnetically)-accelerated punch in Last Order.
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A Possibility:
CORPSE WITCH: "Oooh... I've been waiting for this moment, Whitaker! Not only are you fired but you're finished in this town...! No, you and everyone you care about are finished in this State! I knew that hiring you was trouble; you've caused me nothing but inconvenience with your sentimental stupidity and this is where I get payback! I'm going to make it my business to make your life a living..."
BUBBLES: "Actually, she isn't fired. You are."
CW: "What?"
BUBBLES: "You seem to forget that I own this facility. I was the one who originated the idea of the Robot Fighting League and how to keep it under the radar."
CW: "Yes, but..."
BUBBLES: "I brought you in as a junior partner to handle certain... complications... and the book-keeping, neither of which I suddenly find worth your malignance."
CW: "You're no steel angel Bubbles! I...!"
BUBBLES: "When this all began, I had tired of being told by moral absolutists amongst the AI community that I was a monster. I wanted to show them what a 'monster' really was. Do you know what I've learned over the last few months? I've learned that, not only am I not a monster, I like not being a monster. No, there is nothing else for you to say. Get out."
CW: "But...!"
BUBBLES's right thigh guard snaps open and BUBBLES pulls out a large black semi-automatic pistol with an extended magazine and lots of other add-ons. She starts examining it thoughtfully as if she hadn't seen it before.
BUBBLES: "Get. Out."
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That would be WAY too dark, even for Jeph.
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The stupidest thing Corpse Witch could possibly do at this point would be to punch back.
A violent attack on Bubbles's only living squishy friend while Bubbles is in the room would not be something to risk. It would become a textbook example in courses on Bad Ideas.
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That would be WAY too dark, even for Jeph.
Dark, but a good idea. We'll see what happens on monday.
Speaking of days, we haven't had a surprise Friday Kiss in a long time, and now this happened!
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Damn, Faye, you're at least gonna need a new dermal covering on those knuckles.
Also, this is why Corpse-Witch has such a 'seemingly low-grade chassis'. So it can dramatically buckle at appropriate moments.
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The stupidest thing Corpse Witch could possibly do at this point would be to punch back.
So I have been wondering just how Corpse Witch will react to this unexpected turn.
Possibilities include:
- Nothing. Faye doesn't know enough to be a threat anyway.
- Punish her in some way (dock her pay for example), but otherwise nothing.
- #2, but subsequently try to gain further leverage against Faye somehow.
- Fire Faye for insubordination.
- Physical retaliation.
- Dramatically reveal that she is actually Hank the Dismemberer.
Okay, so #5 seems unlikely (but who knows) and #6 is just a joke (or is it???).
She might fire Faye, but recall that Faye (or specifically her work) is now useful to Corpse Witch as a cover. Having only recently exploited this opportunity, CW may not be too keen on squandering it lightly.
I'm thinking #3.
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Well, that's gonna have consequences.
Dunno what yet, though.
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This strip made me notice that nobody punched Faye in the face throughout this webcomic. Huh.
I believe you're right! Oh, wait, Padma broke her glasses.
Welcome, new person.
Ah, I forgot about that. That was a literal punch in the face. But Padma was, you know, being playful. As playful as someone who swinged a fist at someone's face, that is(Stay with me on that.). I was talking about, like, punching someone out of anger. I think managing to avoid that, in Faye's case, is an impressive feat.
On topic, that punch is most likely to leave a bruise. And a dent. Do we know how sturdy the material Corpse Witch is made of? She seems frail, but we may never know what tricks she holds up her sleeve. I hope she does. I felt bad for her, poor robot, getting punched for protecting her interests. :-P
I think now would be a good chance to shock the audience with the revelation of Faye being a cyborg all along. Perhaps her car accident was worse than we thought and she had to replace some body parts with cybernetics. Ta-da! Cyborg.
It's a nice idea IMO. Here's my card if you want to think about it.
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Two thoughts:
1. Ow.
2. So ends Faye's time at the robot fights.
Questions:
1. Will Bubbles stay, or join Faye on the outside?
2. Will May ever learn any self control?
3. Is this the beginning of a beautiful friendship?
Find out next time on Dragonball Z!
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Another story arc with no downsides for me.
It must be Christmas.
Thanks, Jeph!
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The little irony here is that at last we have something definitively illegal happening at the Skate park - Faye's basically unprovoked assault on CW.
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That's one way to hand in your notice. :claireface:
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The little irony here is that at last we have something definitively illegal happening at the Skate park - Faye's basically unprovoked assault on CW.
Ever heard of 'fighting words', Jim? Some states (and, notably, the District of Columbia) enshrine in law the concept that certain forms of speech are, by their nature, provoking an aggressive response and are therefore neither constitutionally nor legally protected.
Corpse Witch just threatened someone who, even though isn't a friend of Faye's, is a friend of a friend and very much at a disadvantage. Corpse Witch didn't really even have a justification for doing this other than a personal power trip (Did she really have any reason to believe that May would talk? If anything, it is in May's best interest to remain silent, as Bubbles has already effectively pointed out). Corpse Witch just escalated for no good reason after a long period in which Faye has got a clearer and clearer impression that she is manipulative and cruel, including towards Bubbles, in whom Faye has a considerable personal emotional investment.
In these circumstances, Faye could claim extreme provocation and acting to protect May from an unjustifiable threat of harm and there are several places in the world where this would not only be considered 'justification' but even 'reasonable cause'.
Of course, we're talking law and this won't go to the law, at least not officially. This will probably be settled privately by the parties involved and witnesses in a manner that predates all written legislation in the United States and probably Europe too.
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I think Faye's just fired, period. Punch your boss, get fired. ("Into the sun.")
CW's threat to May is hollow, IMHO. Once Faye is out, she has no incentive to keep CW's secrets. Faye could go blab to Roko, and get CW in much worse trouble than May, who after all had good reason to go there for dermal repairs. Faye could ask for immunity, and include May in the deal, provided they bring down CW.
This all depends a bit on Bubbles deciding to leave her employment at the fights. We'll see if that happens.
Yes, but she doesn't know anything about Officer Basili. She might use May as a pawn in building her case against Corpse Witch and doesn't care if it gets her sent back to prison or not. Seeing as how they both use intimidation to serve their own ends they really aren't all that different except one has a badge.
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I think now would be a good chance to shock the audience with the revelation of Faye being a cyborg all along. Perhaps her car accident was worse than we thought and she had to replace some body parts with cybernetics. Ta-da! Cyborg.
I doubt that her arcs with Sven and Angus would have gone through without that coming to light somehow.
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My prediction: This is the end of Faye at the skate park. CW won't have a chance to fire her because Faye just quit. What's really going to shake things up is when Bubbles walks out the door behind her.
Next step is, as others have suggested, Faye and Bubbles setting up their own AI repair business. Possibly with May as receptionist. Meanwhile, as the robot fighting ring no longer has any repair techs, all the fighters start coming to Faye and Bubbles for repair. CW may even have to contract with them - at a significantly higher rate than she was paying Faye and Bubbles before.
And Roko's ham-fisted attempts to bust the new repair shop for imagined illegal activity becomes a running joke. "Hi officer! What are we guilty of this morning?"
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Oh no
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The little irony here is that at last we have something definitively illegal happening at the Skate park - Faye's basically unprovoked assault on CW.
Ever heard of 'fighting words', Jim?
Did that stuff not go out with the wild west even over there? Assuming AI rights = human over here Faye would be looking at a criminal conviction if CW so desired. Provocation might result in a reduction of sentence but that's about it.
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The little irony here is that at last we have something definitively illegal happening at the Skate park - Faye's basically unprovoked assault on CW.
Ever heard of 'fighting words', Jim?
Did that stuff not go out with the wild west even over there? Assuming AI rights = human over here Faye would be looking at a criminal conviction if CW so desired. Provocation might result in a reduction of sentence but that's about it.
Actually, no it didn't. It's obscure but it does come up on occasion!
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Corpse Witch isn't exactly the snitching type, and even if she were, May and Bubbles were there and they definitely didn't see anything.
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My prediction: This is the end of Faye at the skate park. CW won't have a chance to fire her because Faye just quit. What's really going to shake things up is when Bubbles walks out the door behind her.
Next step is, as others have suggested, Faye and Bubbles setting up their own AI repair business. Possibly with May as receptionist. Meanwhile, as the robot fighting ring no longer has any repair techs, all the fighters start coming to Faye and Bubbles for repair. CW may even have to contract with them - at a significantly higher rate than she was paying Faye and Bubbles before.
And Roko's ham-fisted attempts to bust the new repair shop for imagined illegal activity becomes a running joke. "Hi officer! What are we guilty of this morning?"
I love it! Make it so, Jephzibah.
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That was nice and satisfying, like a tall glass of iced tea.
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The little irony here is that at last we have something definitively illegal happening at the Skate park - Faye's basically unprovoked assault on CW.
Ever heard of 'fighting words', Jim?
Did that stuff not go out with the wild west even over there? Assuming AI rights = human over here Faye would be looking at a criminal conviction if CW so desired. Provocation might result in a reduction of sentence but that's about it.
Yeah, but what is CW going to say?
"Hello, officer? Yes I'd like to report an assault. One of my illegally hired employees has just punched me. Yes, one of the ones who works from the skate park. Yes, where we have the illegal AI Fight Club. What happened? Well lets see, they were performing an unlicensed repair job when one of your colleagues burst in. I gave her the same old schtick of being a vocational workshop and subtly intimated that I was connected with her higher-ups. Then once the cop was gone, I gave a not so subtle threat to the AI they had been repairėng when my employee punched me. Why do I hear the sound of laughing in background? Hello. Hello..."
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This strip made me notice that nobody punched Faye in the face throughout this webcomic. Huh.
I believe you're right! Oh, wait, Padma broke her glasses.
Welcome, new person.
Ah, I forgot about that. That was a literal punch in the face. But Padma was, you know, being playful. As playful as someone who swinged a fist at someone's face, that is(Stay with me on that.). I was talking about, like, punching someone out of anger. I think managing to avoid that, in Faye's case, is an impressive feat.
You're making a valid distinction and it's remarkable she never got in a bar fight.
Her ability to throw Angus across a room was comic exaggeration in a comic strip, but it does fuel our favorite game, overanalysis. Put that together with the unknown extent of her injuries from the car crash and there's already been speculation on the wiki that Faye's repairs included robotic parts. The EMTs, remember, were not sure how she survived at all. The upgrades could have been limited to places of only secondary concern to one of her lovers.
What are the legalities of punching a synthetic? Isn't it more like vandalizing someone's car than like punching a squishy, who feels pain and needs weeks or months for repairs if they're even possible?
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I don't think Faye needs to worry about the police giving her a hard time of assaulting Corpse Witch. I think she should be more worried about what connections someone running such a well known criminal enterprise might do if she's feeling vindictive. In the real world, punching out someone with mob connections could have serious and fatal consequences. At the very least it would make getting fired for being drunk on the job and winding up in the hospital to be tame. She could be looking for a new home and room mate after that sort of thing. Fires happen you know, and she's notorious for having trouble with toasters. At the very least CW could get her connections in the police force to make Faye's life a living legal hell, even if the assault is never mentioned, and would certainly never be investigated.
Fortunately, the comic isn't set in the real world, and the consequences of these sorts of actions are not nearly as bad. Probably more along the lines of "You're fired!" "No, I quit!" and "If she goes, I go" from Bubbles. Possibly going after to catch up with Officer Roko and explain just what's been going on there, and what Bubbles suspects CW is doing to keep fighters there.
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That's it, isn't it? Right now Corpse Witch is between a rock and a hard case.
If she does anything to retaliate against Faye, she's going to have to deal with Bubbles as well. Unless she goes for the manipulative route, or if she has something on Bubbles, CW is stuck. She can't do anything without dealing with a combat class AI and I seriously doubt she's going to have the fighters go up against Faye or Bubbles. Punching someone is one thing, but having to do something worse than that and well, lets just say, I hope the Three Laws form a solid cornerstone of an AI's core. Otherwise this comic is going to get very, very dark.
Alternatively, on Monday we find out that Faye has hurt her hand and revealing some unexpected changes. Turns out after the crash all those years ago, Faye was sent to Tahiti to recover. And yes, that's an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. reference.
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I hope the Three Laws form a solid cornerstone of an AI's core.
The second law would turn AIs into the involuntary slave of any passing human. Its utterly incompatible with human rights for AIs...
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Alternatively, on Monday we find out that Faye has hurt her hand and revealing some unexpected changes. Turns out after the crash all those years ago, Faye was sent to Tahiti to recover.
It's a magical place.
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"Her head looked soft! I thought it would be soft!" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2340)
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While I certainly feel like CW deserved that, god dammit Faye. Punching people is rarely the right solution. Punching your mafioso employer even less so. This is going to make things so much worse.
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The reason why Faye's punch won't hurt is the same reason why CW won't try to harm her.
Pintsize.
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Well!!!
That was somewhat unexpected.
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Ever heard of 'fighting words', Jim?
Did that stuff not go out with the wild west even over there? Assuming AI rights = human over here Faye would be looking at a criminal conviction if CW so desired. Provocation might result in a reduction of sentence but that's about it.
No, it did not. Some forms of speech do in fact count as assault. And the law on that specifically does includes direct verbal threats.
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Alternatively, on Monday we find out that Faye has hurt her hand and revealing some unexpected changes. Turns out after the crash all those years ago, Faye was sent to Tahiti to recover.
It's a magical place.
But it's still not in Europe!
If you don't get that one, go watch the movie Sneakers. Yes, now. We'll wait for you.
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Maybe it's seen as okay because the one being punched in the face is a robot, but the whole "violent Faye" shtick apparently... doesn't get old. Would have been nice to have Faye just interrupt loudly with a shout (or something else), rather than resorting to violence.
That would be like the Roadrunner dealing with the coyote by filing a restraining order.
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It'll be real disappointing if this doesn't end with Faye finally going Super Saiyan.
Then again, Corpse Witch seems chill so maybe they'll just laugh it off.
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So they -did- have blue myomer on hand this time. (Maybe Bubbles special ordered it.) I hope it isn't prone to bleaching. May can now proudly show the world that her face and butt -do- match.
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Jeph said AIs in his world don't have any version of the Three Laws. Mostly they like humans, and those who don't face the threat of Robot Jail.
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[Muffled Rashid theme in the distance]
Judging from similarly built people I know, I'm guessing that Faye really is punch-a-dent-into-a-car strong. And she's livid. She's going to be sore tomorrow, but CW is getting more than a few bruises. And of course there's the whole "I quit" part.
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Jeph said AIs in his world don't have any version of the Three Laws. Mostly they like humans, and those who don't face the threat of Robot Jail.
So maybe Robot Jail is just the Three Laws repeated over and over again for 0.68 seconds.
An eternity for an AI.
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So they -did- have blue myomer on hand this time. (Maybe Bubbles special ordered it.) I hope it isn't prone to bleaching. May can now proudly show the world that her face and butt -do- match.
May bought it and brought it with her. That's what was in the bag.
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I'm kind of hoping Corpse Witch will turn to Faye and ask her if she broke 3 fingers or 4 without so much as a scratch.
Faye always bothered me because even if her heart is in the right place she was too often abusive and violent so it was refreshing seeing her with people that she couldn't intimidate like Bubbles, Corpse Witch, or even Officer Basili.
Faye may up and quit regardless of what Corpse Witch does, but I don't think Bubbles leaving with her is as easy as everyone thinks. The skate park gives Bubbles an outlet when her own psychological problems manifest. Can she do that at Faye and Marten's apartment? Now even if she and Faye decide to get an apartment that's more accommodating and possibly with a workshop she still has a lot of problems interacting with people. Perhaps she will walk out with Faye, but even if Corpse Witch has no leverage on Bubbles she'll probably tell her she'll be back as soon as the world gets to hard to deal with.
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New theory.
CW attempts to retaliate against Faye, only for Bubbles to step in and crush her AI core.
Unfortunately, we're now left with a dead AI, a near rabid cop lurking around and three people up a creek without a paddle.
Which ultimately means the long awaited QC tribute to Weekend At Bernie's! Let the fun times and shenanigans commence!
Bubbles doesn't have to crush CW's core to incapacitate her. Bubbles just has to remove CW's head or limbs.
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New theory.
CW attempts to retaliate against Faye, only for Bubbles to step in and crush her AI core.
Unfortunately, we're now left with a dead AI, a near rabid cop lurking around and three people up a creek without a paddle.
Which ultimately means the long awaited QC tribute to Weekend At Bernie's! Let the fun times and shenanigans commence!
Bubbles doesn't have to crush CW's core to incapacitate her. Bubbles just has to remove CW's head or limbs.
Kinda missing the whole Weekend At Bernie's point there :roll:. Plus, she'd be living up to her name, a witch who is also a corpse! :-D
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Here's a further insight into Bubbles's background.
She thought May was safe from legal trouble.
Bubbles, then, has never had anyone close to her on supervised release. Bubbles has also never looked into how the legal system operates, despite her employment situation.
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She may have just been saying that to get May to calm down, the exasperation(?) on her face seems to not support that theory though.
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Faye has just given her one minute's notice that she's going to quit.
I see CW using some kind of weapon in attempted retaliation (or even self-defense) and Bubbles shutting her down HARD.
And now we come to an interesting question. Who actually owns the skatepark? I'm guessing it isn't actually CW.
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I don't think anyone "owns" it. It's not a legal entity.
She acts as though she's the big cheese there, but who knows, maybe she kowtows to someone else. There's still a reveal to come, I feel.
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Sort of reminds me of the old "Magnus, Robot Fighter" comics.
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The owner(s) could be the "big fish" that Clouseau is after.
Why would the Mafia want to own or operate a robot fight club?
I'd expect a priori that they'd want two kinds of business, either legal or lucrative enough to justify risk.
Maybe Robot Fight Club is an independent business paying for protection.
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I've always had a tiny suspicion that a certain very tall red armored ex Military AI is the real owner of the place and Corpse Witch is the public face that she hired/is using to do the day to day management of it.
It may even be that she's kept things compartmentalised and CW was hired through a dummy and is not even aware of the fact.
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Jeph said AIs in his world don't have any version of the Three Laws. Mostly they like humans, and those who don't face the threat of Robot Jail.
So maybe Robot Jail is just the Three Laws repeated over and over again for 0.68 seconds.
An eternity for an AI.
nah, its just a big filing cabinet full of punch-cards
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That makes me wonder... if AIs can be moved from computer to computer (as Pintsize was during the Cake Batter Incident), what's to stop an AI from being copied and put on two different computers at the same time?
Or am I just overthinking this? (Nah. :roll: )
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Here's a further insight into Bubbles's background.
She thought May was safe from legal trouble.
Bubbles, then, has never had anyone close to her on supervised release. Bubbles has also never looked into how the legal system operates, despite her employment situation.
Or Jeph never has.
I suspect CW will fire Faye, or at least try to. It really all depends on what Bubbles does next, and that could go so many ways (depending on things we don't know about yet) that I have no clue what that will be.
Edit: Huh, I just noticed that we now have confirmation from CW that Officer Roko's full last name is "Basilisk", not just "Basili". Not sure how she knows that -- maybe she was able to read the officer's badge when Roko briefly flashed it while introducing herself?
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what's to stop an AI from being copied and put on two different computers at the same time?
Nothing, though it'd be subject to Enterprise Transporter problem: how do you know that an instantiation of the AI in a new chassis is the "same" AI that was in the old one, rather than a copy (meaning the old copy died and a new one that thinks it's the old one was created)? Maybe Momo "died" when she switched to the new chassis, and a new Momo is the one we've been seeing ever since. Also, if you clone an AI, which is the actual one? Both the old and the new one? (Shades of Thomas Riker.)
(This was part of what I was interested in exploring in an idea for a story line I suggested a while back: that Momo's old chassis wakes up and starts claiming it's the "real" Momo. Along with funny hijinks, there'd be interesting philosophical questions to go through.)
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Edit: Huh, I just noticed that we now have confirmation from CW that Officer Roko's full last name is "Basilisk", not just "Basili". Not sure how she knows that -- maybe she was able to read the officer's badge when Roko briefly flashed it while introducing herself?
Or Roko did finish getting her full name out, but CW talked over the end of it and the cut-off is merely an artistic device to indicate the interruption.
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Here's a further insight into Bubbles's background.
She thought May was safe from legal trouble.
Bubbles, then, has never had anyone close to her on supervised release. Bubbles has also never looked into how the legal system operates, despite her employment situation.
Or Jeph never has.
Jeph has tweeted about how depressed he got when researching the rules against probationers having contact with associates of evil character. His knowledge is reflected in May's.