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Title: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Feb 2017, 15:19
Please take the poll with a liberal pinch of salt.  :lol: :wink:

Seriously, I'm expecting one more week with Faye and Bubbles. Why? Because Jeph published a sketch of Faye seemingly in a formal blouse that doesn't seem to have been used yet. I'm expecting one more week of tidying up loose ends regarding the skate park before he moves on to other things.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Feb 2017, 18:59
Maybe they'll hit the bar where everyone dresses fancy?

(Argh. Can't remember NAME.)

The Horrible Revelation! Thank you, wiki....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Feb 2017, 19:17
I hope we see Jeremy this week.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: explicit on 19 Feb 2017, 20:12
What is the legality of accepting cash for work that you know was earned through illegal activity?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: celticgeek on 19 Feb 2017, 20:18
Finders, keepers.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Feb 2017, 20:18
I wonder how much cash is in a sack.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Feb 2017, 20:28
 :laugh:  Sack of cash is a reasonable payment....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 19 Feb 2017, 20:44
:laugh:  Sack of cash is a reasonable payment....
Only if its a burlap sack with a dollar sign printed on the side.


Now that Faye and Bubbles have access to a number of spare parts, my guess is we're finally going to get the long-awaited QC retelling of Frankenstein, the Modern Prometheus! CUE THE LIGHTNING!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 19 Feb 2017, 20:54
I wonder how much cash is in a sack.
"Half a million dollars."
"Keep dreamin' the dream, buddy."

(I may have seen Breaking Bad a few too many times.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 19 Feb 2017, 21:09
That answers the funding question.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Feb 2017, 21:38
How marvelously coincidental this all is.  *Smug  Smirk*


Don't forget the Burlap Sacks for the cash there Faye.   ;)


Looking at this, I suspect BenRG is right and we probably have one more week of this Story Arc left in order to clear up the loose ends for Faye, Bubbles, Jeremyand the others.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: St.Clair on 19 Feb 2017, 21:54
The sack is how you know this was a two-bit operation.
The Briefcase Full of Neatly Stacked and Banded Bills is the upscale version.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Feb 2017, 21:58
And it MUST be either brushed Aluminum or blackLeather and be hancuffed to either Bubbles or Fayes wrist.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Somebody on 19 Feb 2017, 22:09
...wait, if Jeremy was just a head on wheels, what did he actually DO for CW?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 19 Feb 2017, 22:21
...wait, if Jeremy was just a head on wheels, what did he actually DO for CW?

Held up the lampshade, by the looks of it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Feb 2017, 22:59
Well, he had a arm too. Official Corpse Witch holder of Stuff?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Feb 2017, 23:16
I think that this incident, and the meeting with Officer Basilisk is reminding us Faye and Bubbles' world is taking a new shape that Spookybot has decreed (and that name is now canon unless they have a name that they prefer to use that is revealed later on). I'm wondering how long it will take Faye to start questioning just how much freedom of movement Bubbles and she have given that this sorta-god-AI is occasionally adjusting the scenery.

Meanwhile, I notice that Bubbles intends to put the skate park behind her. This sort of surprised me, I suppose. I was expecting that maybe she'd move back in now Corpse Witch was gone and use it as a base to try to set out to build a new life. Maybe she's decided that a clean break is best. Maybe Jeph prefers the idea of having the 'odd couple' based in the same apartment! :wink:

Just a P.S.: My mental 'voice' for Jeremy is Anthony Daniels for some reason and, whenever he makes a sudden movement, there is a clear electro-mechanical whirring noise.

...wait, if Jeremy was just a head on wheels, what did he actually DO for CW?

I'm not sure if he even did do anything around her except be an unspeaking sounding board for her ideas and remarks. We need to know more about his history to be sure but I'm wondering if he was a bit of 'legacy machinery' that wasn't really being used anymore in her operation, if he was ever actually part of it.

If he was... Hmm... Maybe that eye is ultra-HD and she had him take her blackmail photographs of people who attended the fights?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Mehre on 20 Feb 2017, 02:23
Maybe he was doing camera work? If you remember May was talking about watching live-stream
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: freeman on 20 Feb 2017, 03:40
...wait, if Jeremy was just a head on wheels, what did he actually DO for CW?

As a person who has had some experience with industrial robots, what Jeph called "limb" and "head", is usually referred as "tool". A device named tool changer is a pretty standard item in robotic work cells, so Jeremy could swap his head for an actuator or welding torch when working.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 20 Feb 2017, 04:22
The sack is how you know this was a two-bit operation.
The Briefcase Full of Neatly Stacked and Banded Bills is the upscale version.

Corpse Witch might have been partial to the classics.  Of course this whole setup seems unusual.  Considering her programming skills you'd think she'd be in some other line of illegal work, but maybe she got bored with it and preferred illegal gambling. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: osaka on 20 Feb 2017, 04:51
Just a P.S.: My mental 'voice' for Jeremy is Anthony Daniels for some reason and, whenever he makes a sudden movement, there is a clear electro-mechanical whirring noise.

Mine is Zenyatta from Overwatch (can't remember the voice actor). I just think it fits.

On more relevant news to the comic, I didn't know Jeremy had the little motorized wheels to roll around on. There goes my prediction. I guess he'll get a projector because this entire conversation could only be topped with [smug anime face]
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Feb 2017, 06:13
Jeremy is going to wind up looking like a Treadwell droid.

(http://www.customstarwars.freeweb.hu/film/wed_treadwelldroid.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 20 Feb 2017, 07:10
Voice by Rob Paulsen reprising the role of Dr. Otto Scratchansniff but eventually it degenerated/morphed to Pinky for some odd reason.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Feb 2017, 08:20
The sack is how you know this was a two-bit operation.
The Briefcase Full of Neatly Stacked and Banded Bills is the upscale version.
(https://frinkiac.com/gif/S10E09/722554/729428.gif?b64lines=IEkgV09VTEQgUFJFRkVSIEEKIE5PTkRFU0NSSVBUIEJSSUVGQ0FTRSBUTwogVEhFIFNBQ0sgV0lUSCBBIERPTExBUgogU0lHTiBPTiBJVC4=)
and that name is now canon
It's what Faye calls them, sure.

Edit: How did "534" get tagged onto the end of my sentence?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 20 Feb 2017, 08:26
I'm thinking Jeremy's voice would be more like Kryten. Perhaps not quite so goofy, but still over-polite.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Skewbrow on 20 Feb 2017, 10:20
If Jeremy has a sack full of cash, wouldn't buying a new chassis be simpler and more efficient? Not doubting that Bubbles and Faye can manage it (and have a lot of fun while upgrading Jeremy), but ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 20 Feb 2017, 11:10
Including the title and postscript, this comic has three lampshades around the fact that it's an enormously helpful coincidence that he happens to have all the resources needed to do what the story needs to happen. I'm all in favor of an inside joke here or there, but this is reaching critical mass.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 20 Feb 2017, 11:22
Perhaps Jeremy is planning to become like a spider. Spiders have walking legs, pedipalps (modified legs which serve as antennae), and breathing legs, yielding a total of at least 16 legs. Think about how much more mobile he would become if he added that many specialized legs. And then he could even further, and add the eight or so eyes that jumping spiders have!

He does have a bag full of money, after all...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 20 Feb 2017, 12:29
If Jeremy has a sack full of cash, wouldn't buying a new chassis be simpler and more efficient? Not doubting that Bubbles and Faye can manage it (and have a lot of fun while upgrading Jeremy), but ...
Maybe so much fun that Bubbles decides that doing robot repair in an honest business isn't such a bad thing after all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Feb 2017, 13:37
If Jeremy has a sack full of cash, wouldn't buying a new chassis be simpler and more efficient? Not doubting that Bubbles and Faye can manage it (and have a lot of fun while upgrading Jeremy), but ...

But it wouldn't be as visually comedic and potentially funny to write as a body made up of random and mismatched bits bolted together in a random order to satisfy the random whims of a self-aware robot assembly arm with a dodgy conception of aesthetics. Come on, I can't be the only bloke who used to prize apart his ancient Star Wars action figures (you know, the 4" vinyl cast ones with only fixed-plane articulation of the neck, hips and shoulders that couldn't seriously be called 'poseable') and put the bits back together in a mismatched way. Don't tell me you didn't slap Princess Leia's head on top of a Storm Trooper's torso with an arm or a leg each from a random other toy! I hope that you enjoy having one Wookie and one Isthorian arm, Your Worshipfulness!

Anyway, I digress. The point that I'm making is that, by the end of this week, Jeremy is going to look like one of those, just with a lot more and alarmingly specialised limbs to the point where Professor von Frankenstein will certainly be around to collect Bubbles' dues for the Most Ancient and Worshipful Society of Body Horror Sculptors.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Feb 2017, 14:25
I think Jeremy is happy with the body he's in, but just wants the extra arm or two to aid in running the place now that hes the owner.  And yes, I would say that his main role around the place was to serve as the Camera for the Live Streaming of the fights.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Feb 2017, 14:28
If Jeremy has a sack full of cash, wouldn't buying a new chassis be simpler and more efficient? Not doubting that Bubbles and Faye can manage it (and have a lot of fun while upgrading Jeremy), but ...
Also, I'm pretty sure it's less about needing Bubbles and Faye to do it for him and more that he wants to help Bubbles and Faye, and this is the best way to do that without making them feel like they owe him. This way they aren't unemployed, Jeremy gets to hang out with his friends, and nobody has to do anything unethical. Jeremy's a great person.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Skewbrow on 20 Feb 2017, 14:40
Yeah, I give up on the idea of a trip to a chassis shop. May be having a somewhat .... words fail me... Igorian look with an unlikely collection of somewhat mismatched body parts will add to Jeremy's street cred. And also add to the popularity of the show that must go on.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Feb 2017, 17:25
Just a P.S.: My mental 'voice' for Jeremy is Anthony Daniels for some reason and, whenever he makes a sudden movement, there is a clear electro-mechanical whirring noise.

Mine is Zenyatta from Overwatch (can't remember the voice actor). I just think it fits.

On more relevant news to the comic, I didn't know Jeremy had the little motorized wheels to roll around on. There goes my prediction. I guess he'll get a projector because this entire conversation could only be topped with [smug anime face]
Ever since the "I'll get 3 limbs", it's been John Cleese.
Though, if we're going Monty Python's Flying Circus actors, Eric Idle or Terry Gilliam would probably make more sense.

As for what Jeremy might look like...
(https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffullhdpictures.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F09%2FShuckle.png&sp=c260bdc36dd950b312d38e8adb884e66)
Imagine a robotic version of this, but with his current head and body and hands on the limbs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 20 Feb 2017, 17:43
Comics up.  What the hell, another Hannelore, with a dog?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Feb 2017, 17:46
I mean...they both have blonde hair, but that's where the resemblance ends, as far as I can see. Cute dog though :)

Also, :clairedoge: to this whole comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 20 Feb 2017, 19:03
Yay, more Brun.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 20 Feb 2017, 20:17
I think that this incident, and the meeting with Officer Basilisk is reminding us Faye and Bubbles' world is taking a new shape that Spookybot has decreed (and that name is now canon unless they have a name that they prefer to use that is revealed later on). I'm wondering how long it will take Faye to start questioning just how much freedom of movement Bubbles and she have given that this sorta-god-AI is occasionally adjusting the scenery.

Good point. And another reason I wish CreepyButt would return to the shadows and stay there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 20 Feb 2017, 20:49
Hey time traveling Hannelore from five years in the future who is able to own dogs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 20 Feb 2017, 21:00
Maybe she's a Hannerclone that didn't exactly come out right in the height department, but is improved in the dealing with stuff like dog hair department.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Lana on 20 Feb 2017, 21:08
They're good dogs, Brent
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 20 Feb 2017, 21:28
Poochini.  :lol:

The two most popular dog names in Italy are Tuur and Dot.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: normanstresskopf on 20 Feb 2017, 23:01
Hey time traveling Hannelore from five years in the future who is able to own dogs.

She (and the corgi) look much more realistic than the other characters:
perhaps based on an actual friend of Jeph's?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Feb 2017, 23:15
Hmm...

Brun, I know this is an odd question but run with me here. Have you recently run into a redheaded woman named 'Claire' by any chance? Did she give you some suggestions about how to be more socially at ease and approachable? I'm just wondering.

Seriously, this is really odd; Brun is OOC from what we've seen before. I'm wondering if this is the first time that anyone has laughed at a joke Brun told (remembering that she might not be necessarily fully aware of what's funny) and she liked it. She liked being the cause of a positive reaction of some sort and now she wants another hit, quite badly. Someone needs to tell her that you should only read a joke book one page at a time or you'll get all burned out. :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: St.Clair on 21 Feb 2017, 00:08
Hey time traveling Hannelore from five years in the future who is able to own dogs.

She (and the corgi) look much more realistic than the other characters:
perhaps based on an actual friend of Jeph's?

I was thinking Jane Lynch, myself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Feb 2017, 00:24
Anyway, assuming that we are now onto Jeph's promised 'catch-up one-shots' section, what do we learn here? To me, three key things, all of which will definitely affect The Secret Bakery group of characters in one or another:]
Any of these things could be the jumping-off point for a future arc. For example: Brun the baby-sitter?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Skewbrow on 21 Feb 2017, 00:57
Brun baby-sitting ... Samantha? What could possibly go wrong? Other than from the point of view of harpooned snakes and toads.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Doc on 21 Feb 2017, 01:00
Aaaarghh! Animals in a foodstore!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Indicible on 21 Feb 2017, 01:03
Jeph is doggedly pursuing the trail of puns. He shepherded a good number of them into this strip. Let's just hope nobody gets catty on that day, or it will be raining blows in the Secret Bakery. Raining cats and dogs, of course...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: gopher on 21 Feb 2017, 02:00
Probably no true, but my version of this is a trolling comic "Sick of the uber-AI of all power? Look how much worse a comic can be".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: oeoek on 21 Feb 2017, 02:01
So sorry, still giggling, I should not be allowed near Brun.

Is Jeph somehow excused for the pun jar? (oeoek stares at the pun jar that seemed to have added an outhouse the size of Scooge McDuck's money bin since comic 3422 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=))
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Near Lurker on 21 Feb 2017, 02:57
...I see she's met the weird boy's sister.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 21 Feb 2017, 04:38
Hey time traveling Hannelore from five years in the future who is able to own dogs.

She (and the corgi) look much more realistic than the other characters:
perhaps based on an actual friend of Jeph's?

I was thinking Jane Lynch, myself.

She's a lot taller than her or are you referring to a different Jane Lynch? 

Wondering if Brun is into Sex Bird or if that's something she borrowed from Renee or got from the thrift store. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: prime_pm on 21 Feb 2017, 05:38
Every Brun strip is a gift.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 21 Feb 2017, 05:49
Brun seems to have got a job at tSB; I can't see Jim tolerating her 'just hanging around' and disrupting the business;

Naw, it's just "Take Your Unemployed Roommate to Work" day. Renee got sick of coming home to yet another deep cleaning project, so she brought Brun along to keep her out of trouble. "The Nasty Whale" can't reopen soon enough.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Welu on 21 Feb 2017, 13:26
This strip is adorable. Brun just likes to make people laugh, or at least attempt to do it even if they don't laugh.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Feb 2017, 15:20
I shall Dane to say aye chihuahua!

And I like the fact we're catihcing up with the others now that the CW Saga has been kenneled.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 21 Feb 2017, 15:37
This strip is adorable. Brun just likes to make people laugh, or at least attempt to do it even if they don't laugh.
She seems to be no more successful at making people laugh than Claire is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 21 Feb 2017, 16:47
That brings up a disturbing thought.  Brun is Claire's half sister, which of course neither know.  They got their sense of humour from their mutual dad.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Feb 2017, 17:24
Hmm...

Brun, I know this is an odd question but run with me here. Have you recently run into a redheaded woman named 'Claire' by any chance? Did she give you some suggestions about how to be more socially at ease and approachable? I'm just wondering.

Seriously, this is really odd; Brun is OOC from what we've seen before. I'm wondering if this is the first time that anyone has laughed at a joke Brun told (remembering that she might not be necessarily fully aware of what's funny) and she liked it. She liked being the cause of a positive reaction of some sort and now she wants another hit, quite badly. Someone needs to tell her that you should only read a joke book one page at a time or you'll get all burned out. :wink:
As an aspie, I can tell that people often have trouble discerning when I'm telling a joke or not. Even people that know me fairly well.
I get more laughs when making observations than when I'm trying to be funny.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Feb 2017, 17:30
Brun baby-sitting ... Samantha? What could possibly go wrong? Other than from the point of view of harpooned snakes and toads.
She seems the sort to find jumping spiders cute, so I don't know about the harpooning of any smell animals.

(http://p.im9.eu/cute-animals-daily-squee-creepicute-baby-spider.jpg)
Baby jumping spider
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Feb 2017, 18:54
I shall Dane to say aye chihuahua!

And I like the fact we're catihcing up with the others now that the CW Saga has been kenneled.

Doggone it, mutt you hound us with these dog based puns, it's getting ruff. They're terrier-ing me up inside.

Nah, I'm joking. Dogs and puns are the Corg-key to my heart.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 21 Feb 2017, 21:51
Jeph is doggedly pursuing the trail of puns. He shepherded a good number of them into this strip. Let's just hope nobody gets catty on that day, or it will be raining blows in the Secret Bakery. Raining cats and dogs, of course...
I shall Dane to say aye chihuahua!
And I like the fact we're catihcing up with the others now that the CW Saga has been kenneled.

Doggone it, mutt you hound us with these dog based puns, it's getting ruff. They're terrier-ing me up inside.
Nah, I'm joking. Dogs and puns are the Corg-key to my heart.

I can't figure out how you guys come up with so many canine puns, it's quite a puggle.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 21 Feb 2017, 21:56
One pun comic and you're all off the leash.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 21 Feb 2017, 22:58
I'm not sure I get the joke tonight. Like... Okay, he's anthropomorphizing succulents, but since that could have worked without changing the name, I'm really struggling to figure out what else the joke is here. Is it just that 'Spotted puculents' sounds funny? Or...?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 21 Feb 2017, 23:14
I can't figure out how you guys come up with so many canine puns, it's quite a puggle.

What do baby platypuses have to do with this?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Feb 2017, 23:23
Not every strip is a winner. You can actually feel Jeph struggling to do anything relevant to the main storyline with Marten and Claire and, at the risk of being accused of back-seat driving, I think that this is the problem. There was no impelling need to have Marten and Claire doing or saying anything associated with the main story thread. There was no real cause to have discussing Bubbles and Faye's situation at all in this strip beyond them expressing empathy for a certain decommissioned combat AI and that could have been sandwiched into a later main thread strip and it was an error to try if nothing flowed smoothly into the overarching concept.

No, this would have worked better if Jeph had just sat back and thought: "What random thing might Marten and Claire doing right now?" and written a stand-alone about it, much as he did yesterday for Brun, Elliott and Renee. It would have come across as far less forced and awkward.

That said, Claire's 'reaction pose' in panel 1 comes across as humorous for some reason. Maybe it's the wholly exaggerated aspect of every part of it.

I'm not sure I get the joke tonight. Like... Okay, he's anthropomorphizing succulents, but since that could have worked without changing the name, I'm really struggling to figure out what else the joke is here. Is it just that 'Spotted puculents' sounds funny? Or...?

Look below the main strip at Jeph's sketch on the Pokémon species he'd created - Spotted Pucculent. I think that, as he was writing the script, he randomly thought: "Spotted Pucculent; yeah that sounds like some kind of weird exotic animal". Once that idea got into his head, he literally couldn't stop himself running with it. I've had that happen to me once or twice whilst writing. The problem is that these things that make you chuckle to yourself are rarely as funny to everyone else as they are to you. :-\

By the way - All will be forgiven if Jeph writes a sub-arc about Marten and Claire trying (and failing) to find something to serve as a house-warming gift for Bubbles. That would be classic QC humour.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 22 Feb 2017, 01:32
I mean one or more of them is going to live with Bubbles and it's probably an important thing to establish that everything's cool there.
I don't know if Claire's living with them or not.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Feb 2017, 01:57
To put my money where my mouth is... Let's see... Fic writer's hat on...

SIX-PANEL FRAME
PANEL 1
Close-up of CLAIRE throwing her pen away against a violent, clashing primary-colour background.

CLAIRE: "I've had ENOUGH!"

PANEL 2
INT: The Apartment
MARTEN and PINTSIZE are looking out of the KITCHEN at CLAIRE, who is on the couch, cradling her head in both hands; there is a pile of manuscripts on the coffee table.

MARTEN: "Claire! What is it?"

PINTSIZE: "Maybe it's that time of the grading cycle again?"

CLAIRE: "No matter how many of these damn things I mark, the Professor dumps more on me! Why did I agree to be a TA? It's driving me crazy!"

PINTSIZE: "Yup! Called it."

PANEL 3
MARTEN is now sitting on the couch with his arm around CLAIRE's shoulders.

MARTEN: "Honey, I know that you feel that you need to be the A-grade, top-average student but none of this is worth it if it makes you miserable!"

CLAIRE: "But... I need to get all the extra credit that I can for this course, Marten! You know how important this is for me!"

PANEL 4
MARTEN has now pulled CLAIRE into a one-armed hug, kissing the top of her head. CLAIRE's eyes are closed and she's obviously enjoying the contact.

MARTEN: "Seriously, Claire, you are born for this! You have so much natural talent and dedication that I don't think you need to worry about extra credit! You're gonna graduate top of the class and, before long, you'll be the stern, unapproachable head librarian that all the students fear but secretly lust for!"

CLAIRE: *Giggles*

PANEL 5
CLAIRE is now straddling MARTEN's lap and grinning at him.

CLAIRE: "Marten, that's a lovely thing to say but is this really your appreciation for me as a librarian talking or one your 'The Strict Head Librarian and Her Shy Administrator' fantasies?"

MARTEN: "There is that, in-Dewey-tably! I'm serious, though, Claire; you're going to do great so long as you don't burn yourself out! You're gonna do this!"

PANEL 6
CLAIRE is kissing MARTEN on the cheek. PINTSIZE is looking on from bottom right of panel with a despondent expression

CLAIRE: "That's so sweet, Marten! I know whose stacks I'm gonna be re-arranging tonight!"

PINTSIZE: "Huh. Looks like I'm going to be book-ing a 'bed' in the closet again tonight!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 22 Feb 2017, 02:35
Yeah....
This one isn't endearing me to Marten/Clair any more than I'm already not.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: ZoeB on 22 Feb 2017, 03:24
Given past speculation by some on how to torture CW best... I'm glad that the worst thing Claire can think of ex tempore is throwing CW in a hole. With SW bugs.

The real issue is - how best to slightly rebalance the universe by doing something kind for Bubbles? How do they show her just how much they care about what has been done to her? And how to make things better, as making good is impossible?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 22 Feb 2017, 04:28
Given past speculation by some on how to torture CW best... I'm glad that the worst thing Claire can think of ex tempore is throwing CW in a hole. With SW bugs.

The real issue is - how best to slightly rebalance the universe by doing something kind for Bubbles? How do they show her just how much they care about what has been done to her? And how to make things better, as making good is impossible?

Prepare a better cup of tea for starters. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Feb 2017, 04:59
I looked at panel 1 and thought, "What the hell? Did Claire just have an ear infection burst or something?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: TinPenguin on 22 Feb 2017, 05:07
My first thought was that "gosh, that's awful" is a chronic underreaction to being shot through the brain.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: WareWolf on 22 Feb 2017, 05:07

Look below the main strip at Jeph's sketch on the Pokémon species he'd created - Spotted Pucculent. I think that, as he was writing the script, he randomly thought: "Spotted Pucculent; yeah that sounds like some kind of weird exotic animal". Once that idea got into his head, he literally couldn't stop himself running with it. I've had that happen to me once or twice whilst writing. The problem is that these things that make you chuckle to yourself are rarely as funny to everyone else as they are to you. :-\


The hardest part of rewriting is to throw out the scenes you love, love, LOVE, but which you finally have to admit don't do a thing to move the story. And, to be fair, if you're turning in a comic on a daily basis, you might not have time for that internal wrestling match.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 22 Feb 2017, 06:14
If you liken the story as an adventurous hike through familiar yet scenic terrain then this was at worst a misstep [pebble?] as opposed to stepping in something nasty [recoverable but will stink for a while] or off a cliff [not so recoverable without triage and much flailing about].

I don't think QC has ever suffered the former except by design and the latter is more of a thing from
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Feb 2017, 07:58
That is exactly the reason why I no longer read any strips from
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 22 Feb 2017, 12:54
I'm not sure I get the joke tonight. Like... Okay, he's anthropomorphizing succulents, but since that could have worked without changing the name, I'm really struggling to figure out what else the joke is here. Is it just that 'Spotted puculents' sounds funny? Or...?

Look below the main strip at Jeph's sketch on the Pokémon species he'd created - Spotted Pucculent. I think that, as he was writing the script, he randomly thought: "Spotted Pucculent; yeah that sounds like some kind of weird exotic animal". Once that idea got into his head, he literally couldn't stop himself running with it. I've had that happen to me once or twice whilst writing. The problem is that these things that make you chuckle to yourself are rarely as funny to everyone else as they are to you. :-\

By the way - All will be forgiven if Jeph writes a sub-arc about Marten and Claire trying (and failing) to find something to serve as a house-warming gift for Bubbles. That would be classic QC humour.
Either it didn't load on my phone, or that wasn't there when I first read the comic.
I still don't get why 'Spotted Pucculent' is funny, but at least it makes slightly more sense now.

If you liken the story as an adventurous hike through familiar yet scenic terrain then this was at worst a misstep [pebble?] as opposed to stepping in something nasty [recoverable but will stink for a while] or off a cliff [not so recoverable without triage and much flailing about].

I don't think QC has ever suffered the former except by design and the latter is more of a thing from
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That is exactly the reason why I no longer read any strips from
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What did
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do? I mean, yes, he's had some mediocre story arcs, but I don't think any of them (at least, any of them in Dumbing of Age, his older stuff is very hit-and-miss,) have been as bad or pointless as the Creepybot arc.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Welu on 22 Feb 2017, 13:32
I am confused and not risking that Google.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 22 Feb 2017, 13:49
I am confused and not risking that Google.

If you are referring to the what Thrudd and jwhouk have hidden under a spoiler tag it's a webcomic that Jeph Jacques has a link to.  You don't need to google it.   
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 22 Feb 2017, 14:01
Are we talking about Dave Willis or Voldemort?

Is there a difference?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Feb 2017, 14:23
It looks like a relative of the Spotted Loyena.  ;D

But will this be the planitng of an idea in Claires brain.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: DSL on 22 Feb 2017, 14:34
It's a character mement for Marten and Claire ... the nonsense wordplay that is their lurv language.

It's also the basis for improv comedy: No matter what your partner (or heckler) says, run with it. Build on it. Comic 1: "Doctor, you have to help me! My wooden leg has termites!" Comic 2: "OK, sit down and we'll have a look." (Cheap chair collapses under Comic 1.) Comic 2: "Good God, it's contagious!"

As the conductor says in a loud aside to the orchestra while theoretically talking to the audience: "No matter what happens, keep playing."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Feb 2017, 16:08
To put my money where my mouth is... Let's see... Fic writer's hat on...

SIX-PANEL FRAME
PANEL 1
Close-up of CLAIRE throwing her pen away against a violent, clashing primary-colour background.

CLAIRE: "I've had ENOUGH!"

PANEL 2
INT: The Apartment
MARTEN and PINTSIZE are looking out of the KITCHEN at CLAIRE, who is on the couch, cradling her head in both hands; there is a pile of manuscripts on the coffee table.

MARTEN: "Claire! What is it?"

PINTSIZE: "Maybe it's that time of the grading cycle again?"

CLAIRE: "No matter how many of these damn things I mark, the Professor dumps more on me! Why did I agree to be a TA? It's driving me crazy!"

PINTSIZE: "Yup! Called it."

PANEL 3
MARTEN is now sitting on the couch with his arm around CLAIRE's shoulders.

MARTEN: "Honey, I know that you feel that you need to be the A-grade, top-average student but none of this is worth it if it makes you miserable!"

CLAIRE: "But... I need to get all the extra credit that I can for this course, Marten! You know how important this is for me!"

PANEL 4
MARTEN has now pulled CLAIRE into a one-armed hug, kissing the top of her head. CLAIRE's eyes are closed and she's obviously enjoying the contact.

MARTEN: "Seriously, Claire, you are born for this! You have so much natural talent and dedication that I don't think you need to worry about extra credit! You're gonna graduate top of the class and, before long, you'll be the stern, unapproachable head librarian that all the students fear but secretly lust for!"

CLAIRE: *Giggles*

PANEL 5
CLAIRE is now straddling MARTEN's lap and grinning at him.

CLAIRE: "Marten, that's a lovely thing to say but is this really your appreciation for me as a librarian talking or one your 'The Strict Head Librarian and Her Shy Administrator' fantasies?"

MARTEN: "There is that, in-Dewey-tably! I'm serious, though, Claire; you're going to do great so long as you don't burn yourself out! You're gonna do this!"

PANEL 6
CLAIRE is kissing MARTEN on the cheek. PINTSIZE is looking on from bottom right of panel with a despondent expression

CLAIRE: "That's so sweet, Marten! I know whose stacks I'm gonna be re-arranging tonight!"

PINTSIZE: "Huh. Looks like I'm going to be book-ing a 'bed' in the closet again tonight!"
This is the best post you've ever made.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Socky on 22 Feb 2017, 19:00
"Whenever Poochie's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking 'Where's Poochie'?"

I'm so done with the robuts
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Feb 2017, 19:03
I hate the way everybody's bagging on this story.  It was a good story, damnit.

I know three or four combat vets, and they ALL liked the way Bubbles was portrayed.  Jeph showed real understanding, in an understated way.

Y'all maybe hate Spookybot.  But you know what?  That's okay, you didn't have to like him.  Or her.  Or whatever.  You weren't even expected to like them. Spookybot represents a real thing that our world is going to have to deal with.  'Cos there is no way AI is stopping at human-level intelligence, whether you think that makes for an overpowered Deus sex machina character  or not.  Spookybot (or Gary, if that's who they really are) turns out to be "Friendly" in a lot of the ways that matter (at least isn't deciding that they have a better use for all our organic molecules), and that allows the QC universe to keep turning. 

It's just a little bit contrived to have Spookybot taking an interest in small fish like Bubbles and Corpse Witch.  But it's a bit more plausible if we take for granted that Spookybot is listening in on Station's calls and monitoring the guy who invented AI in the first place.  This is probably the most heinous act ever heard on those channels, and taking a personal interest in something that is at least that remarkable isn't all that implausible.  And then there's that whole 'sanctity of mind' thing - which makes perfect sense for someone/something who is utterly defined by mental abilities alone.

In short, yes Spookybot is OP - it could crush the whole world.  That's real, and sort of inevitable, so deal with it.  But Jeph is showing us that his world is capable of existing, because Spookybot/Gary is someone who chooses not to do that.  Because if the Ultimate Power we will eventually create isn't at least as inclined to let people get along and see what happens, then the world as we understand it will no longer exist.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Feb 2017, 19:20


In other news, now I want to adopt a spotted pucculent.  They are so cute!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Feb 2017, 19:24
Bear in mind as well that in-universe, the AIbino is designed to be intimidating and to induce that feeling of unease. They are meant to tap into that part of the brain that makes humans go "oh shit" in that really tiny voice.

That the AIbino produces a near similar reaction on the forum should be a testament that Jeph has designed a quite good character.

As for this arc, I liked it, but not for the reason you think. I liked it because it was a callback to some of the darker stories in QC history; the Talk, Marten and Dora's breakup, Faye's drinking and hospitalisation. I think QC needs these darker stories once in a while, just to counter some of the, shall we say, sillier stories or the ones that are just a little too romantic. To be the salt that cuts the sugar, so to speak.

Look, at the end of the day, Jeph has tried to tell a different kind of story, and it hasn't quite worked out in some aspects. But he has tried. He's tried to do something different, a kind of story we haven't seen before. And that should be celebrated, because we're in the 14th year of Questionable Content, we're just a few weeks away from the 3500th comic. In terms of duration and volume of content, that's huge. Other comics, it could have been very easy to fall into a tired, boring rut. As it is, we got something different, there's someone trying new things to keep his job fresh.

So maybe, just maybe, people shouldn't be crapping over this arc like they have over the last couple of weeks.

Also, every time I read spotted pucculent, I think of some sort of vegetable like a courgette.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 22 Feb 2017, 19:29
How do the forum rules apply to shipping Marten and Claire?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Feb 2017, 19:45
I'm not quite sure what the official stance is on shipping in the forum, but I believe this should give you an indication (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25614.msg989639.html#msg989639).

But generally, people don't really ship on the forum, or at the very least, there's no crack shipping. Its one of those topics that can become very divisive very quickly, or it can creep some people out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 22 Feb 2017, 19:55
I hate the way everybody's bagging on this story.  It was a good story, damnit.

I know three or four combat vets, and they ALL liked the way Bubbles was portrayed.  Jeph showed real understanding, in an understated way.

Y'all maybe hate Spookybot.  But you know what?  That's okay, you didn't have to like him.  Or her.  Or whatever.  You weren't even expected to like them. Spookybot represents a real thing that our world is going to have to deal with.  'Cos there is no way AI is stopping at human-level intelligence, whether you think that makes for an overpowered Deus sex machina character  or not.  Spookybot (or Gary, if that's who they really are) turns out to be "Friendly" in a lot of the ways that matter (at least isn't deciding that they have a better use for all our organic molecules), and that allows the QC universe to keep turning. 

It's just a little bit contrived to have Spookybot taking an interest in small fish like Bubbles and Corpse Witch.  But it's a bit more plausible if we take for granted that Spookybot is listening in on Station's calls and monitoring the guy who invented AI in the first place.  This is probably the most heinous act ever heard on those channels, and taking a personal interest in something that is at least that remarkable isn't all that implausible.  And then there's that whole 'sanctity of mind' thing - which makes perfect sense for someone/something who is utterly defined by mental abilities alone.

In short, yes Spookybot is OP - it could crush the whole world.  That's real, and sort of inevitable, so deal with it.  But Jeph is showing us that his world is capable of existing, because Spookybot/Gary is someone who chooses not to do that.  Because if the Ultimate Power we will eventually create isn't at least as inclined to let people get along and see what happens, then the world as we understand it will no longer exist.

I did bag the story. A bit. Its resolution, anyway.

But not because of the portrayal of Bubbles. That has been great.
Nor because I thought Spookybot's interest in the world is contrived. It's not especially.
Nor because Spookybot is OP as such, although I think it is hard to write an omnipotent character and keep the story interesting.

So none of that changed my mind. I dig that you liked the story, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Feb 2017, 20:05
How do the forum rules apply to shipping Marten and Claire?
Generally, if it's justified in canon and you're not creepy about it, it's ok. Marten and Claire are in a serious relationship, so...go for it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Feb 2017, 20:13
Hanners is usually pretty good at that. I'm too lazy to look it up, but give peas a chance.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 22 Feb 2017, 20:15
COMIC

Puns are indeed just like Lego. They're great fun until you step on one in bare feet. Also, I sometimes can't find the right piece.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Feb 2017, 20:40
I stepped on a pun in bear feet, but the bear malled me while I was out shoo shopping for a fly swatter.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 22 Feb 2017, 21:03
The comments suddenly stopped making sense, so I needed to click 'Previous'.

Jeph can redeem himself in my eyes by having Emily interpret the Agismaze QSE encryption algorithm as a knitting pattern.

Also Magical Space Pixies. I feel for Elliot. He was totally ninja'd by Hannelore


Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Feb 2017, 22:08
How do the forum rules apply to shipping Marten and Claire?

Just don't get explicit and creepy, and people won't be creeped out. It's very clear now that Marten and Claire have given consent, so it's not like shipping Harry and Draco.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Feb 2017, 23:26
Don't worry too much about it, Elliott! Hannelore isn't a rival; if anything it's great to see Brun making many new friends. That said, I'm thinking that there is a real possibility of Brun imprinting on Hanners as her new guide through life. To me, panel 5 in today's comic is pure and simple: "Sempai! Teach me how to be as great as you!"

Meanwhile... Yeah, this seems to be something about the more recent female Coffee of Doom employees: Magical powers of one sort of another. Emily has them too!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Feb 2017, 00:36
How do the forum rules apply to shipping Marten and Claire?

What do you even mean by shipping when the characters are already in a canon sexual relationship?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Bollthorn on 23 Feb 2017, 00:45
Hannelore is the CUTEST lil' space pixie!! ^.^
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 23 Feb 2017, 02:54

What did
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do? I mean, yes, he's had some mediocre story arcs, but I don't think any of them (at least, any of them in Dumbing of Age, his older stuff is very hit-and-miss,) have been as bad or pointless as the Creepybot arc.

I'm with Mikmaxs here...
What's with the downer on Willis?

(I thought the link name was a "good natured joke" between fellow artists... Am I (are we?) missing something?)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Feb 2017, 03:02
Hence also: "Damn you, Willis", which was adopted as our thread title for discussing Dumbing of Age.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Feb 2017, 03:50
Just a thought that occurred to me: Whilst Elliott is definitely in Brun's 'friend' category, he's going to have to face up to the fact that Hannelore seems to be rapidly turning into Brun's best friend. They clearly have a lot in common in terms of mindset, likes and dislikes. So, yeah, if he's talking to Brun when Hanners' walks in, he's going to have to get used to being left standing!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 23 Feb 2017, 04:30
Just a thought that occurred to me: Whilst Elliott is definitely in Brun's 'friend' category, he's going to have to face up to the fact that Hannelore seems to be rapidly turning into Brun's best friend. They clearly have a lot in common in terms of mindset, likes and dislikes. So, yeah, if he's talking to Brun when Hanners' walks in, he's going to have to get used to being left standing!

I thought Marigold was Hannelore's best friend or has that position become part time since she's been spending most of her time with Dale. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Feb 2017, 05:20
I think Hannelore would find the idea of ranking her friends distasteful.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Feb 2017, 06:21
I have reasons that I can't type up on my tablet very well. Suffice to say that the reasons are similar to why I don't care for certain authors.

Sent from my Nextbook on Tapatalk

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And now that I'm on a proper laptop:

There are just some means of his storytelling that I don't particularly like. Similar to why I'm not a fan of J.R.R. Tolkien or George R.R. Martin. And his political/religious views aren't in my ballpark, either.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: osaka on 23 Feb 2017, 09:15
Meanwhile... Yeah, this seems to be something about the more recent female Coffee of Doom employees: Magical powers of one sort of another. Emily has them too!

Then what's Cosette's power? Complete, brutal and unrelenting clumsiness? "I am become Cosette, destroyer of mugs"?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Feb 2017, 09:20
Cossette isn't 'recent'; it's limited to Hannelore (Space Pixie), Emily (Summoner of Old Coding Gods) and Dale (He Who Reaches Out to the Unreachable).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 23 Feb 2017, 13:10
So many things ... so many...

On DYW ... The pet names we have for him are varied and colourful and some have stuck like burrs on a cheap sweater, deserved on not.
I had met him at a few conventions in his early days and have followed his work on and off over they years.
He had jumped the shark with his writing in the past and kept doubling down till even he saw the darkness and closed the story lines.
I don't mind him rehashing characters [writer stick to their strengths after all] as long as he can write a decent story.
I haven't seen any sharks as of yet, though the waters are a bit choppy at times.
As jwhouk pointed out, the injection of his personal politics does tend to annoy some more than others.
I try and keep a writers personal diatribes separate from the stories as long as they do the same.
He also has a tendency for breaking the "Law of Wheaton", which is why you won't see me in his comment unless you have a way-back machine.  :-D

Now on the topic of this particular story arc that has pretty much reached its completion, I would say it was a purposeful bit of stink with a misstep at the end.
Like some of the other controversial arcs and topics in the past our esteemed writer has done this with the purpose of shining a light on a topic to explore aspects of it.
Overall it was a decent story with good character development. Could some bits have been done differently?
Maybe, but I think that closing the story was a better decision than going down that particular rabbit hole.

As for Spooky, maybe omnipotent is stretching things just a tad.
On a similar level to station but with different strengths and resources, I can wrap my head around more.
There was the way they spoke to others as well the actions they took in front of and behind the scenes.
Most of it was intimidation based and we really don't know how much was truth and how much was an act for each of the characters involved.
How much out and out bluff and how much cold hard steel truth? Who knows? Well besides our favorite writer.
Hey, they have dogs so we know they are more social than they put forward.
I look forward to maybe seeing them pop in socially in the future if the stories so permit but like that bruised government agent from the early days I won't miss seeing them again if they are not needed for the story.

As we are going forward, I am wondering who else is still in the active cast.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 23 Feb 2017, 14:48
So now we know, Brun and Hanners are Magical Pixie Girls - Who knew??

Just so long as no-one hounds them, they should be able to live normal lives among the pack.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 23 Feb 2017, 15:47
... a tendency for breaking the "Law of Wheaton" ...

I know not this "Law of Wheaton". Google is confused as well. Is it like 'BNBR'? A plea for internet civility?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Tova on 23 Feb 2017, 17:24
Google didn't seem all that confused, assuming it was meant to refer to Wheaton's Law (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wheatons-law).

TLDR Yes, a plea for internet civility.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: blt on 23 Feb 2017, 18:49
I hate the way everybody's bagging on this story.  It was a good story, damnit.

I know three or four combat vets, and they ALL liked the way Bubbles was portrayed.  Jeph showed real understanding, in an understated way.

I guess my disagreement here is that this story wasn't about Bubbles' combat experience.  It was a magic hand-wave solution to her missing memories, basically taking them out of play.  Those memories could essentially have been of anything at this point.

I could be wrong and it will be revisited, or the idea of her vet status will continue to inform her character but I'm a little disappointed with how it went down.
Title: Ass Swordsman Tetsuo
Post by: foolsguinea on 23 Feb 2017, 19:19
Ass Swordsman Tetsuo

Why can't we have this instead of Alice Grove?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 23 Feb 2017, 19:29
What, you want something that apparently has the same level of story progress as Dragonball Z?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Random Wanderer on 23 Feb 2017, 19:41
It could simultaneously be a brilliant deconstruction of shounen anime tropes and be garbage. But I probably would have dropped it after episode 2.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: explicit on 23 Feb 2017, 21:08
We're all just here for the ecchi anyways.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 23 Feb 2017, 21:36
I like that Momo is apparently dozing with her recharge cord plugged in. She's like a cat - she can doze anywhere, but she choses to do it in the same room with the hoomins.
Title: Re: Ass Swordsman Tetsuo
Post by: St.Clair on 23 Feb 2017, 21:37
Ass Swordsman Tetsuo

お尻 剣士 鉄男

Now appearing on Crunchyroll.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: brasca on 23 Feb 2017, 21:43
I hate the way everybody's bagging on this story.  It was a good story, damnit.

I know three or four combat vets, and they ALL liked the way Bubbles was portrayed.  Jeph showed real understanding, in an understated way.

I guess my disagreement here is that this story wasn't about Bubbles' combat experience.  It was a magic hand-wave solution to her missing memories, basically taking them out of play.  Those memories could essentially have been of anything at this point.

I could be wrong and it will be revisited, or the idea of her vet status will continue to inform her character but I'm a little disappointed with how it went down.

I recall Jeph Jacques being disturbed researching gruesome imagery of war for Alice's flashbacks so perhaps delving into what Bubbles experienced was too dark to handle.  I don't like that most of this was resolved by a walking talking deus ex machina, but at least it wasn't Hannelore using her vast resources to save the day.  That would be too easy.  In this instance Bubbles is fortunate that Spookybot overheard Station and the AI elders chatting about this. 

I think the most amusing thing about tonight's strip is Momo fell asleep watching Ass Swordsman Tetsuo.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Skewbrow on 23 Feb 2017, 22:38
Today's strip shows many things JJ is very good at. The intensity that Marigold and Dale watch the episodes comes thru IMHO quite convincingly. The detail of a dozing Momo - not forgetting the recharger cord - is just perfect.

The dialogue? That kind of silliness is just icing on this cake. The strip might have also worked well even without any dialogue whatsoever. Leaving it to the reader to fill in what intrigued May initially, and seconds later made her turn on her heels.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Feb 2017, 23:29
Yeah, I'm getting flashbacks to season 1 of RWBY. Don't get me wrong, I liked that show (at least at first) but the production team took three seasons to start the main meta-plot after a two seasons of seemingly-pointless explorations of the issues of secondary characters and the plots of a second-string baddie who, or so it turned out, they were going to kill off at the end of season 3 anyway. The titular character of the show is still being treated as a background character (and a deus ex machina dispenser) more often than not with more focus being given to secondary characters. Frankly, I'm not sure if I can take it much longer.

The point? The gulf between "cool idea dude" and "cool end product dude" is a vast one and sometimes the execution can get a bit dodgy, especially if the creative team has too much freedom and are those sorts of creative minds who tend to go chasing off after every whim that comes into their heads.

I'm just wondering how late this is all happening. Momo is in recharge mode and we all know that Dale and Marigold have only limited healthy living instincts. It's possible that May has come home from the graveyard shift to find that Dale and Marigold have decided to forego sleep! Again!
Title: Re: Ass Swordsman Tetsuo
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Feb 2017, 23:35
Ass Swordsman Tetsuo

Why can't we have this instead of Alice Grove?

The first episode (they're all double-length) of Katanamonogatari has a swordsman pulling a sword out of his throat - but not much else matches (the protagonist is a swordsman who doesn't use a sword, and the last of the historic "swords" he's recovering is a gun).

We're all just here for the ecchi anyways.

Actually, not all of us.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 24 Feb 2017, 01:12
Hence also: "Damn you, Willis", which was adopted as our thread title for discussing Dumbing of Age.
From what I've seen, "Damn you, Willis" is mostly used in a positive way - A plot twist that readers didn't see coming, but which reframes many previous events and leaves tons of new unanswered questions and possibilities?
Damn you, Willis!

@thrudd, I agree that Willis can be a bit of a dick, but the original comments about him were very much in the 'criticizing his writing/story arcs' category, which I firmly disagree with unless we're talking about his really old stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 24 Feb 2017, 01:51
Yeah...
I'm no clearer as to why there seems to be so much vitriol being flung at all.

Oh well...
Title: Re: Ass Swordsman Tetsuo
Post by: normanstresskopf on 24 Feb 2017, 04:40
Ass Swordsman Tetsuo
お尻 剣士 鉄男
I know where Jeph drew inspiration from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuo:_The_Iron_Man
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 Feb 2017, 05:06
I think Hannelore would find the idea of ranking her friends distasteful.
I agree, but at the same time, she's probably done it anyway.

Ranked lists are a whole thing that she does.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 24 Feb 2017, 07:12
@thrudd, I agree that Willis can be a bit of a dick, but the original comments about him were very much in the 'criticizing his writing/story arcs' category, which I firmly disagree with unless we're talking about his really old stuff.
Definitely his old stuff.
His latest foray in story writing seems to have a bit more forethought and planning involved.
Maybe it has to do with developing that huge buffer giving him more time to think his story arcs through and having them reviewed before going live.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 24 Feb 2017, 07:21
I like that Momo is apparently dozing with her recharge cord plugged in. She's like a cat - she can doze anywhere, but she choses to do it in the same room with the hoomins.

I was actually wondering if they weren't using her like a PC to stream the anime...

But her sleeping probably makes more sense.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Mad Cat on 24 Feb 2017, 09:50
When he farts, do shuriken fly out? That would be Hell on the wardrobe. Kinda hafta take to wearing kilts if that were the case.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Feb 2017, 12:54
It sounds like an Educational Sneaker - teaching you importans Science whild keeping you waiting for him to draw a sword outta his ass.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 24 Feb 2017, 13:28
I like that Momo is apparently dozing with her recharge cord plugged in. She's like a cat - she can doze anywhere, but she choses to do it in the same room with the hoomins.

I was actually wondering if they weren't using her like a PC to stream the anime...

But her sleeping probably makes more sense.  :laugh:
That doesn't look like a charging cable, it looks like an HDMI. Sure looks like she's streaming to me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Feb 2017, 15:54
@thrudd, I agree that Willis can be a bit of a dick, but the original comments about him were very much in the 'criticizing his writing/story arcs' category, which I firmly disagree with unless we're talking about his really old stuff.

See, that was the other thing - his story writing is occasionally from the "Hu Flung Poo" writer's guild. The politics/religious/social stuff is just an annoying topping to it all.

He is just not my flavor.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 24 Feb 2017, 20:31
Did Jeremy recommend this? "meeting a demon and convincing it to be nice using logic" sounds like Unbeatable Squirrel Girl to me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3421-3425 (20th to 24th February 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Feb 2017, 12:07
Official Poll Results Post!

"So, what next in this gripping tale?"

1. Just how many arms can Jeremy support before he topples over like a top-heavy pile of dishes? - 13 (31%)
2. Other major characters? There are other characters? - 12 (28.6%)
=3. Maybe we can learn more about that blonde who does the tea! - 5 (11.9%)
=3. Just who are Faye's roommates anyway? Do they have a story too? - 5 (11.9%)
5. Just how many hijinks can Spookybot get into when they have seven bodies and more brewing in the tubes? - 3 (7.1%)
=6. More Faye and Bubbles as they explore the varying definitions of "raccoon" - 2 (4.8%)
=6. Corpse Witch's adventures in custody whilst awaiting arraignment - 2 (4.8%)

Definitely a lot of Jeremy fans... and possibly Tredwell Utility Droid fans too... on the forum these days! There also seem to be an awful lot of users with a cynical view of what has happened to the former primary characters of the strip! :wink:

An interesting collision for third place too; There is definitely a significant minority of people who are interested in more Apartment-based adventures including Marten, Claire and Hannelore.

Just a note: I won't be doing next week's WCDT; please someone else be my guest.