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Title: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Welu on 12 Mar 2017, 21:11
New comic up but no thread yet. No poll since I'm on my phone. Persons with capability feel free to add one when they can.

Starting with Brun and Renee. Noodles and ketchup sound awful.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Rincewind on 12 Mar 2017, 21:25
Noodles/pasta and ketchup isn't too terrible, better with some mayo so you can pretend it's Russian dressing.  Butter and a little salt has usually been my go-to if there's no spaghetti sauce available.  A couple of packets of duck sauce left over from some Chinese food is interesting. Mustard or barbecue sauce are definitely out, though.
 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Penquin47 on 12 Mar 2017, 21:33
Ketchup on noodles?  I'd eat the noodles plain before I'd do that.

Of course, I don't actually own any ketchup, so...

(But still.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 12 Mar 2017, 21:39
I thought ketchup with noodles was Chinese spaghetti, way back when.

I don't understand the eww factor, though... ketchup is a tomato product, so is spaghetti sauce... A little colder.

DC, l5ls
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: explicit on 12 Mar 2017, 21:44
Ketchup is much sweeter
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 12 Mar 2017, 22:01
Yeah, you'd want a more savory taste with heated noodles. Still... I HAVE had ketchup over pasta before, compliments of Uncle Sam. A quick lunch/dinner thing, improvised during a convoy in the hind end of Louisiana.

DC, l5ls
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: explicit on 12 Mar 2017, 22:06
It's not the worst, but unless you absolutely have to I don't see the point. Ketchup's just going to be more expensive than a cheap pasta sauce. Though I guess you could take a bunch of those packets from a fast food place or something.

Still not nearly as bad as when one of my students only ate cantaloupe with ketchup for a week. They had to seat him away from the other students cause they were getting so grossed out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Mar 2017, 22:22
I've heard of worse things.

And I really can't talk since I like to drop in a desert spoon full of Soya Sauce in my Fires when I'm cooking them once they get to golden brown.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: explicit on 12 Mar 2017, 22:28
If we're going to be on this weird food combo train I used to dip cookies into apple juice.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 12 Mar 2017, 22:30
Noodles/pasta and ketchup isn't too terrible, better with some mayo so you can pretend it's Russian dressing.  Butter and a little salt has usually been my go-to if there's no spaghetti sauce available.  A couple of packets of duck sauce left over from some Chinese food is interesting. Mustard or barbecue sauce are definitely out, though.
 

A sprinkle or two of dill or chive over the butter...not half bad at all

DC, l5ls
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Mar 2017, 22:39
Where would it rank on a scale from fried chicken liver with canned green beans to popcorn covered in lard?

EDIT: For context; I got to find out what 'laid off' meant in 2nd grade. We alternated between fried chicken gizzard and fried chicken liver, accompanied with a canned vegetable for 2 weeks. Thankfully it was during school.
The lard covered popcorn is a horror story courtesy of the Great Depression and how poor my maternal grandfather's family was at that time. Which was made even worse by the fact that his parents had recently emigrated from Germany to try to escape the Depression there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: swapna on 12 Mar 2017, 22:41
Yeah, you could make a case for butter and garlic,  but plain ketchup? I had it before, it's not worth the tiny bit of less hassle it is not to have/make pasta sauce. Putting just butter and parmesan or olive oil and garlic on it is just as easy and doesn't gross you out after the first bite.

But then again, Brun seems like the kind of person who wouldn't care enough, and it's nice that she cooks for her friend when she's staying over. Or is it a punishment for Renée for being obnoxious?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Mar 2017, 22:41
Chip Butties, everyone likes Chip Butties.

(FYI, by Chips I mean what the Yanks among you know as Fries)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 12 Mar 2017, 23:15
I don't do ketchup. Period. Of all the condiments in the world, it's just not necessary.

I'm going with the assumption that the caption is unreliable narration. (It often is with Jeph.) The other assumption is that Renee is not into Elliot, if only because it's unpleasant to contemplate (Elliot deserves somebody as sweet as he is). Brun is likely friend-zone only for Elliot, but eventually he'll find somebody who's right.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Tova on 12 Mar 2017, 23:19
My childhood treat.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ks-STHm4xeg/TQrgYaGl2yI/AAAAAAAAAS4/iU_EPLTABZg/s1600/Chip+sanga.JPG)

My brother used to have them with ketchup instead of vegemite (which we strangely refer to as tomato sauce, go figure).

I don't think I would be interested in noodles with tomato sauce, but my brother would go for it. He puts it on just about everything.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Mar 2017, 23:57
I MIGHT do that if I was really broke. 0_o

Brun's probably right too. Most bartenders or ex-bartenders are, regarding relationships.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Mar 2017, 00:23
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly these threads jump sideways into culinary discussion. I'm thinking that we have a whole lot of hungry people and/or wannabe chefs on this site! For the record, to me tomato ketchup is an invaluable tool against otherwise-tasteless foods or foods that I would otherwise find unpalatable like starchy staples and boiled vegetables.

Onto the subject of the strip itself: This is probably the first time that I've seen the comparison between Renee and Faye explained so seriously. Both women don't know how to do 'friendly communication' with people close to them so they default to teasing and borderline-outright bullying. This is the second time that Brun has given a character an existential revelation about things over which they may be in denial. Is this a precursor to the apartment burning down?

At the very least, it is the precursor to Renee deciding to drink to forget. As Brun said, she's good at this 'bartender' thing. What is really hilarious is that she didn't really say anything. She just put the idea into the air and Renee's own brain did the rest of the work!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 13 Mar 2017, 03:32
[...]

Brun's probably right too. Most bartenders or ex-bartenders are, regarding relationships.

Probably.

And I for one would totally buy another drink at that point.  :-D  (So she's right about that, too.)

(Damn manipulative bartenders. ;) )
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Mar 2017, 03:51
Given that Jeph has called this "Elliott is Cute Week" on his Twitter feed, I feel confident in predicting that we are going to be sticking with this arc at least until Friday. However, what will happen?

I'm expecting that Renee will tell Brun that she can't act on Elliott herself because he's attracted to Brun. I suspect that this will come as news to Brun. That said, I may be doing her a disservice and she might be fully aware of Elliott's reasons for wanting to pat her head. The big question will be whether she reciprocates.

Either way, I've got a feeling that the latter half of this week will be Renee and/or Brun making Elliott very nervous by tentatively trying to work out if he is really interested in them and maybe even flirting with him in a tentative and somewhat amateurish manner (or at least behaving in a manner that you could interpret that way). Naturally, Elliott will get locked into an indecision loop about whether he is reading too much into their behaviour.

If Jeph feels like it, he can probably sustain such a holding pattern for months. However, if it's Brun who is doing the flirting, it is much more likely that she'll lose patience in the whole thing and just directly tell Elliott what she wants and what she believes he wants, leading to the proof that Ellliott can do a full-body blush.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 13 Mar 2017, 05:10
Yeah, you could make a case for butter and garlic,  but plain ketchup? I had it before, it's not worth the tiny bit of less hassle it is not to have/make pasta sauce. Putting just butter and parmesan or olive oil and garlic on it is just as easy and doesn't gross you out after the first bite.

But then again, Brun seems like the kind of person who wouldn't care enough, and it's nice that she cooks for her friend when she's staying over. Or is it a punishment for Renée for being obnoxious?

Brun is eating it too so it doesn't appear that way. 

Once again Brun has some uncanny powers of observation that made her an effective bartender, but she still seems to be oblivious to Elliot's attraction to her. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Mar 2017, 05:14
One wonders if Brun is autistic or just odd and badly socialized?  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Mar 2017, 06:50
Well, food is a universal experience. All of us at least eat food, and most of us prepare it... Even if some people's skills don't go past sandwiches and microwave dinners. I've never had spaghetti and ketchup, but I have substituted ketchup in place of tomato sauce in recipes before when I was out of sauce.  Mostly in my poorer days when I literally had to account for every penny trying to stretch from check to check. Noodles and butter sauce is a fine tradition that can be quite tasty.

I'm not sure if Brun is unaware of Elliott's attraction to her or not. That's kind of the thing, she doesn't emote much. Most of her interactions seem to be a deadpan... So a person is not really sure if she's joking or not when she breaks out the harpoon, or lets someone pet her hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: JimC on 13 Mar 2017, 07:07
Ketchup on noodles?  I'd eat the noodles plain before I'd do that.
I've been known to put peanut butter on noodles (with appt quantities of water, soy sauce, ginger, water, mango chutney and sweet chilli dipping sauce all blasted in the microwave and stirred thoroughly into a thick sauce)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: anahata on 13 Mar 2017, 07:36
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly these threads jump sideways into culinary discussion.

To be fair, food preparation is central to the entire strip for today, and to Jeph's comments, even if the dialog is about something else.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Nepiophage on 13 Mar 2017, 09:40
I eat my peas with honey
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 13 Mar 2017, 10:04
Spaghetti with ketchup? Meh.

It's got nothing on deep-fried chicken feet with ketchup.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Welu on 13 Mar 2017, 15:49
At the risk of starting a whole other food or semantics discussion, that's a difference I hadn't considered. To me, noodles are strictly noodles. What would be considered Chinese/Asian style noodles. Not spaghetti or as I've seen some use it, an umbrella term for all pasta styles.

Lots of people have those once unthought of combinations they like though so Brun having something like that isn't too surprising to me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2017, 17:11
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles. I like to improvise. I also despise ketchup. I can do tomato sauce, but I find the idea of calling ketchup tomato sauce to be disgustingly deceitful. Sure, it's not the intention, and most people don't hate ketchup, but expecting tomato sauce and getting ketchup would be pretty much the worst possible culinary surprise I can imagine, as long as we're involving actual food that won't make me physically sick.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Welu on 13 Mar 2017, 17:46
For me the worst was thinking I was about to get some tasty chips/fries and it turning out to be parsnips.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: dreed on 13 Mar 2017, 18:42
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles. I like to improvise. I also despise ketchup. I can do tomato sauce, but I find the idea of calling ketchup tomato sauce to be disgustingly deceitful. Sure, it's not the intention, and most people don't hate ketchup, but expecting tomato sauce and getting ketchup would be pretty much the worst possible culinary surprise I can imagine, as long as we're involving actual food that won't make me physically sick.

Don't come to Australia then as there is no ketchup here.   it's called tomato sauce instead.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: blt on 13 Mar 2017, 18:45
Maybe that's how Elliot got so big, just eating whole loaves of bread in one go.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2017, 19:07
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles. I like to improvise. I also despise ketchup. I can do tomato sauce, but I find the idea of calling ketchup tomato sauce to be disgustingly deceitful. Sure, it's not the intention, and most people don't hate ketchup, but expecting tomato sauce and getting ketchup would be pretty much the worst possible culinary surprise I can imagine, as long as we're involving actual food that won't make me physically sick.

Don't come to Australia then as there is no ketchup here.   it's called tomato sauce instead.
Well now I know not to eat tomato sauce in Australia. Although what do they use with pizza?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2017, 19:11
Apology loaf sounds delicious.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Dust on 13 Mar 2017, 19:24
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles. I like to improvise. I also despise ketchup. I can do tomato sauce, but I find the idea of calling ketchup tomato sauce to be disgustingly deceitful. Sure, it's not the intention, and most people don't hate ketchup, but expecting tomato sauce and getting ketchup would be pretty much the worst possible culinary surprise I can imagine, as long as we're involving actual food that won't make me physically sick.

Don't come to Australia then as there is no ketchup here.   it's called tomato sauce instead.
Well now I know not to eat tomato sauce in Australia. Although what do they use with pizza?

Tomato paste, usually.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Wagimawr on 13 Mar 2017, 20:03
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles. I like to improvise. I also despise ketchup. I can do tomato sauce, but I find the idea of calling ketchup tomato sauce to be disgustingly deceitful. Sure, it's not the intention, and most people don't hate ketchup, but expecting tomato sauce and getting ketchup would be pretty much the worst possible culinary surprise I can imagine, as long as we're involving actual food that won't make me physically sick.

Don't come to Australia then as there is no ketchup here.   it's called tomato sauce instead.
Well now I know not to eat tomato sauce in Australia. Although what do they use with pizza?

Tomato paste, usually.

Well that's fun. Here in the States you can buy both tomato paste and tomato sauce in cans. Usually "Hunt's" brand.

Almost 30 years old and I'm still unclear on the difference.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DSL on 13 Mar 2017, 20:17
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice. My mom, child of the Depression, still thinks of real butter as a luxury, and tells stories of lard-and-ketchup sandwiches on "day-old" bread from the bakery (that being the bread no longer sold for regular price after the end of the day.)

One suspects Brun has to pay close attention to the right side of the decimal point in her financial dealings.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Mar 2017, 20:18
Tomato paste is thicker, a more reduced version of tomato sauce.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: neurocase on 13 Mar 2017, 20:28
Ah, Renee. Subtle as a sledgehammer.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2017, 20:42
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice.
But you're still spending money on ketchup, money that could be spent on not ketchup without ruining your noodles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: klaatu on 13 Mar 2017, 21:29
Is it just me, or did Jeph put a bit of extra thought into drawing Brun's bottom in an extra attractive manner in 3436?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Mar 2017, 21:48
On the subject of odd foods; tortilla shells buttered and grilled, then slathered with honey peanut butter and sprinkled with generic brand Coco-Pebbles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Storel on 13 Mar 2017, 21:50
Maybe that's how Elliot got so big, just eating whole loaves of bread in one go.

Well, it's not a very large loaf...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 13 Mar 2017, 22:41
So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Dust on 13 Mar 2017, 23:34
So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.

I think she just doesn't get that you aim for the intentional spit-take when someone's drinking, not eating.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/66/660756f4ce07500abe420463acd7228e1ac34c1547b007f85a8c37acd301293f.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Mar 2017, 00:17
Firstly, I believe that there should be more people making Apology Loaves in this world.

Secondly, much to Elliott's discomfort, it seems that Renee has a uniquely individual methodology in determining whether or not she is attracted to someone. Here's a pro-tip Renee: No matter how embarrassing you find it, it is always better to discuss these things first! Do this before you ask them to disrobe so you can determine if they are physically desirable.

You know... after Hannelore and the muffins and now this, I'm wondering if Jeph doesn't eat baked goods the way the rest of us do!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Delator on 14 Mar 2017, 01:03
Kudos to Renee, but it feels to me like she's not even clear why she's apologizing.

Yeah, it was a bit low to call out Elliott regarding Brun, but the context is more important in this instance.

R: "Elliot, back me up here."
E: "I think she should do what she wants."
R: *sticks foot in mouth*

Elliot's statement was true regardless of his feelings for Brun. Renee only turned things around on him when he didn't give her the answer she wanted.

That's what she should be apologizing for.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Tawdry Quirks on 14 Mar 2017, 02:05
You know... after Hannelore and the muffins and now this, I'm wondering if Jeph doesn't eat baked goods the way the rest of us do!

And there's also these tweets about bread (the first tweet thread mentions trying to swallow a whole loaf of bread), so there's definitely something peculiar going on in his bakery department.

https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/737837523372773376
https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/737838231123841024

edit: Is there a way to merely link to tweets instead of having the text of the tweet embed in the post?  I tried posting the links using the standard url tags and was surprised it didn't work.  The other forum I visit that uses Simple Machines doesn't have a special Twitter tag.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 14 Mar 2017, 02:52
One wonders if Brun is autistic....   :angel:

Yeah, been wondering that (or something of that ilk) since her first appearance.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Mar 2017, 03:45
My motto has long been "Man shall not live on bread alone, but he can damn well try."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: blt on 14 Mar 2017, 04:01
Maybe that's how Elliot got so big, just eating whole loaves of bread in one go.

Well, it's not a very large loaf...

Maybe it is, just not by comparison to the eater. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 14 Mar 2017, 05:17
Ah, Renee. Subtle as a sledgehammer.

It does explain why she's friends with Brun.  They're both deficient in tactfulness, but with Brun it seems more innocent.  Renee just seems to lack a filter. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 14 Mar 2017, 06:44
Ah, Renee. Subtle as a sledgehammer.

It does explain why she's friends with Brun.  They're both deficient in tactfulness, but with Brun it seems more innocent.  Renee just seems to lack a filter.

Refused one, undoubtedly. And no one calls her on it.

P/c cowards. Oops, repeated myself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Welu on 14 Mar 2017, 07:20
Maybe that's how Elliot got so big, just eating whole loaves of bread in one go.

Along with four or five dozen eggs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Mar 2017, 08:04
Well, Renee has never been a kind character. Even before getting elevated to secondary status she was shown as rude and angry. The Faye counterpart for the bakery. She's been shown to have some redeeming features in loyalty to her friends. But she's still not nice most of the time, is quite rude and abrasive to everyone. I don't know if she doesn't think before she speaks or just doesn't care.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Mar 2017, 08:33
You know... after Hannelore and the muffins and now this, I'm wondering if Jeph doesn't eat baked goods the way the rest of us do!
That's not how people eat delicious baked goods? :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 14 Mar 2017, 08:45
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles.
Peanuts are used in savory sauces all over south Asia, and I've been served peanut soups/sauces in African restaurants.   Nothing strange about it at all, although perhaps it's exotic if one's idea of culinary adventure is a local burger chain instead of Micky D's. 

Ketchup for pasta sauce is poverty food , even if it's a step up from tomato soup made with ketchup, soda crackers, and hot water.  Poverty foods become delicacies a generation or two later.  Spare ribs. oysters, clams, brisket, cassoulet, lobster - all considered po' folks' food at one time.  Brun is ahead of the curve.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Mar 2017, 09:04
Chicken fried steak, on the other hand, will never be anything but a poverty food. Even if they somehow start serving it in expensive restaurants in Manhattan. It's plain survival food, providing calories and not much else.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Mar 2017, 09:07
Chicken fried steak, on the other hand, will never be anything but a poverty food. Even if they somehow start serving it in expensive restaurants in Manhattan. It's plain survival food, providing calories and not much else.
Delicious survival food. Lethal, but the most delicious foods usually are.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 14 Mar 2017, 09:27
Well, Renee has never been a kind character. Even before getting elevated to secondary status she was shown as rude and angry. The Faye counterpart for the bakery. She's been shown to have some redeeming features in loyalty to her friends. But she's still not nice most of the time, is quite rude and abrasive to everyone. I don't know if she doesn't think before she speaks or just doesn't care.

The eventual fight between Faye and renee will be a short catfight, with Bubbles grabbing both of them by their scruffs and hold them mid air spitting and snarling like a couple of, well, cats.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Mar 2017, 12:30
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles.
Peanuts are used in savory sauces all over south Asia, and I've been served peanut soups/sauces in African restaurants.   Nothing strange about it at all, although perhaps it's exotic if one's idea of culinary adventure is a local burger chain instead of Micky D's.
I never claimed it was strange or exotic. Just tasty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 14 Mar 2017, 15:44
So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.

I think she just doesn't get that you aim for the intentional spit-take when someone's drinking, not eating.

Depends on what they're eating. If it's a dry-ish bread that makes a lot of crumbs you might get a truly impressive coughing fit!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Mar 2017, 17:29
Now I want tomorrows Comic

I suspect that Renees motives might be more innocent than we're thinking.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 14 Mar 2017, 17:56
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles.
Peanuts are used in savory sauces all over south Asia, and I've been served peanut soups/sauces in African restaurants.   Nothing strange about it at all, although perhaps it's exotic if one's idea of culinary adventure is a local burger chain instead of Micky D's.
I never claimed it was strange or exotic. Just tasty.
That was meant to back you up, Your Dudeness, not smack you down.  Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 14 Mar 2017, 19:14
So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.

I think she just doesn't get that you aim for the intentional spit-take when someone's drinking, not eating.

Depends on what they're eating. If it's a dry-ish bread that makes a lot of crumbs you might get a truly impressive coughing fit!

Cinnamon raisin bread. If it is fresh, it should still be moist, although cinnamon if it goes down the wrong pipe... yipe!

I -did- think it was CLINTON and Brun... for a bit, anyway, or looked to develop so. I've been randoming the entire content of Content on my laptop this past week or so, and my speedreading skills are over there in a far younger man's clothes.

Elliot, if he were a bit closer, would make an EXCELLENT best man at Marten and Claire's wedding.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Mar 2017, 19:31
I mean I've used peanut butter with spaghetti with soy sauce to make something not entirely unlike sesame noodles.
Peanuts are used in savory sauces all over south Asia, and I've been served peanut soups/sauces in African restaurants.   Nothing strange about it at all, although perhaps it's exotic if one's idea of culinary adventure is a local burger chain instead of Micky D's.
I never claimed it was strange or exotic. Just tasty.
That was meant to back you up, Your Dudeness, not smack you down.  Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
We're all good, Goaty :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: neurocase on 14 Mar 2017, 19:35
Now I want tomorrows Comic

I suspect that Renees motives might be more innocent than we're thinking.

I read it as simply a method for her to ascertain whether she experiences a physical attraction to Elliot in a state of undress.

Which isn't a particularly sound way to sift through and find any emotional connection, but Renee has the emotional intelligence of a toddler, so that's not surprising.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Mar 2017, 19:37
Or The Secret Bakery has just gotten new uniforms for their employees.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Mar 2017, 19:52
Well, that answers that question.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Welu on 14 Mar 2017, 20:03
Daaaaaang.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Mar 2017, 20:15
Well, at least she suggested "piss fuck" to him before just springing it on him (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=603).  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 14 Mar 2017, 20:27
Now I want tomorrows Comic

I suspect that Renees motives might be more innocent than we're thinking.

I read it as simply a method for her to ascertain whether she experiences a physical attraction to Elliot in a state of undress.

Which isn't a particularly sound way to sift through and find any emotional connection, but Renee has the emotional intelligence of a toddler, so that's not surprising.

Well, she's consistent in her lack of class.

And if he asked for parity, she'd scream harassment.


Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: wlewisiii on 14 Mar 2017, 20:29
Chicken fried steak, on the other hand, will never be anything but a poverty food. Even if they somehow start serving it in expensive restaurants in Manhattan. It's plain survival food, providing calories and not much else.

Pfft. Delightful comfort food wether American style with a white sausage gravy or German "Jaeger Schnitzel" style with a brown mushroom gravy. Om nom nom nom...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: neurocase on 14 Mar 2017, 20:45
Well, I called it on the reasoning behind Renee's request. However it seems she's unaware of the fact that physical attraction to a person does not at all a stable foundation for anything substantial make. Physical attraction is certainly an important component, but using it as the tipping factor between deciding if you're attracted to someone in other ways or not is superbly immature.

I'm becoming less and less of a fan of Renee the more she's featured.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: St.Clair on 14 Mar 2017, 20:48
Now I want tomorrows Comic

I suspect that Renees motives might be more innocent than we're thinking.

You were saying?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Mar 2017, 21:28
Well, it turns out that every inch of him isn't covered in hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: pendrake on 14 Mar 2017, 21:38
For comic #3438... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3438)

Well...  If Rene was not attracted to Elliot before, she probably is now. :-*

(Unless she is cursing in disappointment of NOT being attracted to him...?)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 14 Mar 2017, 21:45
Well, she's consistent in her lack of class.

And if he asked for parity, she'd scream harassment.

Hell with reversing the genders, it *is* harassment, female on male. It's a problem even if Elliot himself isn't offended, since it creates a hostile workplace for others.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 14 Mar 2017, 22:20
Elliott, you're hot and all, but don't strip just because someone asks you.

And I so hope he won't end up with Renee...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 14 Mar 2017, 22:35
Renee should take profanity classes from May. May uses lots of gutter language, but at least she puts it together imaginatively. Also, all the excretory references are funnier coming out of a robot's mouth.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Mar 2017, 23:32
Renee should take profanity classes from May. May uses lots of gutter language, but at least she puts it together imaginatively. Also, all the excretory references are funnier coming out of a robot's mouth.

Sydney Scoville Jr. (http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/226) would make another excellent profanity teacher/tutor (last panel).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Shjade on 14 Mar 2017, 23:46
So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.

I came just to see if anyone had brought this up.

Frankly I'm a little surprised it doesn't seem to be a primary topic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2017, 00:31
Judging from panel 5 and 6, I'd say, yes, Renee does find Elliott physically attractive. It is also quite clear that this is not a revelation that is welcome to her. It's worth noting that physical attraction isn't the be-all and end-all of relationships. Does she even want to act on this? Based on panel 6, I'm wondering about that quite a lot. We can be attracted to someone on a physical and instinctual level without wanting a closer relationship with them.

Now, I wonder if Jeph may be planning to explore what would have happened if Faye had confronted her insecurities and dated Marten? If so, he's going to use Renee and Elliott as shadow surrogates.

So now Renee is sexually harrassing someone at their workplace. Stay classy Renee.

I came just to see if anyone had brought this up.

Frankly I'm a little surprised it doesn't seem to be a primary topic.

I'm thinking that most people on this board just don't see it that way. Typically, sexual harassment isn't done as a plea with puppy-dog eyes as in panel 2 here.

And I so hope he won't end up with Renee...

I'm predicting one super-awkward date at the end of which they both agree that they have absolutely no future as romantic partners.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DSL on 15 Mar 2017, 00:41
Chicken fried steak, on the other hand, will never be anything but a poverty food. Even if they somehow start serving it in expensive restaurants in Manhattan. It's plain survival food, providing calories and not much else.

Pfft. Delightful comfort food wether American style with a white sausage gravy or German "Jaeger Schnitzel" style with a brown mushroom gravy. Om nom nom nom...

Culinary history is full of so-called "poverty foods" that for some damn reason or another became the property of the monied elite. Brown breads, lobster, caviar, the "Patagonian toothfish" nuisance fish that became remarketed and upscaled as "Chilean sea bass." It'll probably happen with the Asian carp -- er, silverfin -- encroaching on midwest-U.S. waterways. I know chefs are figuring out ways tp cook 'em up and charge lots of money for them. I've even seen, and passed up, "gourmet" versions of the humble poutine. Gastronomic gentrification, is what it is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 15 Mar 2017, 01:17
It'll probably happen with the Asian carp -- er, silverfin -- encroaching on midwest-U.S. waterways. I know chefs are figuring out ways tp cook 'em up and charge lots of money for them.

I know! They could slather them in ketchup!   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Mar 2017, 01:50
It'll probably happen with the Asian carp -- er, silverfin -- encroaching on midwest-U.S. waterways. I know chefs are figuring out ways tp cook 'em up and charge lots of money for them.

I know! They could slather them in ketchup!   :-D
A garlic butter sauce with lemon juice (I don't know the proer term) generally works well on any fish. Maybe add a bit of dill seed. Serve with radishes and bok choy.

Alternatively, stew it with radishes, parsnips, a bit of ginger root and some black pepper. Hmmmm.... Not sure, but that sounds like it's missing something.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: JimC on 15 Mar 2017, 02:26
Seems as if Renee has just found herself drinking at the Horrible Revelation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Case on 15 Mar 2017, 03:31
This is why Brun is a great bartender - now they both come back and have more drinks ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: blt on 15 Mar 2017, 03:36
I'm starting to wonder if this storyline with Renee isn't to serve as a distraction for Elliot from his feelings for Brun.  Meanwhile Clinton works up the nerve to ask Brun out and there's Great drama when E realises he missed his chance

Or (hopefully not) just to neatly parcel Elliot away for a clean Clinton/Brun endgame.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2017, 03:47
@blt,

We might be underestimating Jeph. He might be planning something of a romantic polygon of some sort with various incompatible crushes and official romantic pairings meeting in The Secret Bakery and slowly working themselves out in the most painfully funny ways possible.

How would this work? You have Clinton interested in Brun who (might) be interested in him in return but may also be interested in Elliot in at least a "he's a cute fluffy giant plush toy" sort of way. However, Elliott is definitely interested in Brun but is too shy to act on it and may feel constrained from acting because Renee is interested in him and he doesn't want to be the cause of contention between two friends. Elliott and Renee might even be officially dating before long, no matter how bad an idea they both think it is, simply because Renee insists that they have to because she finds him attractive and has been doing the whole 'denial' thing by teasing him. Such an endearingly neurotic reason for dating would fit in with the overall atmosphere of QC.

Just for irony's sake, the original main cast should all become aware of this mess and hypocritically pronounce how they'd never let their personal lives get this screwed up!

Of course, Brun will be the vertex of all of this and, frankly, because she's so hard to read, I have no idea what she will think. Because of this, I can't even guess how this will all turn out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 15 Mar 2017, 04:46
Polygonal... interesting description. I like it.

Not having any data on how close renee and Brun were before the fire, there'd be little validity in speculating about a Elliot/Brun/renee triangle until and unless such data manifested.
Fun, in a horrid, Addams Family sort of way, but not valid.

What I'd like to see is Clinton pairing up with Brun, Elliot closing that side of the relationship matrix by meeting and whirlwind romancing with Emily.

renee? Getting canned for harassment and moving back to wherever, screeching at Brun at the top of her lungs all the way, a cold compress over one eye from the black eye she gets from failing to sneak the Clock into her luggage.

Hmm... Marten and Claire's arc of relationship started at a wedding... maybe at their wedding is how Emily and Elliot meet, and Clinton and Brun's relationship firms up.

I'm guessing at all this.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: TinPenguin on 15 Mar 2017, 05:32
Seems as if Renee has just found herself drinking at the Horrible Revelation.

Everyone 'finds themselves', drinking at the Horrible Revelation.

Hence the name.

How would this work? You have Clinton interested in Brun who (might) be interested in him in return but may also be interested in Elliot in at least a "he's a cute fluffy giant plush toy" sort of way. However, Elliott is definitely interested in Brun but is too shy to act on it and may feel constrained from acting because Renee is interested in him and he doesn't want to be the cause of contention between two friends. Elliott and Renee might even be officially dating before long, no matter how bad an idea they both think it is, simply because Renee insists that they have to because she finds him attractive and has been doing the whole 'denial' thing by teasing him. Such an endearingly neurotic reason for dating would fit in with the overall atmosphere of QC.

"Fetch me that flower; the herb I show'd thee once..."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 15 Mar 2017, 06:53

Now, I wonder if Jeph may be planning to explore what would have happened if Faye had confronted her insecurities and dated Marten? If so, he's going to use Renee and Elliott as shadow surrogates.

Interesting theory.  I sometimes wonder if Emily was introduced to fulfill storylines originally intended for Raven that he never got around to writing until after her character left.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DSL on 15 Mar 2017, 07:00
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice.
But you're still spending money on ketchup, money that could be spent on not ketchup without ruining your noodles.

Let's just say that some things are available in cut-rate, dollar-store versions and some things aren't, and you go with what you know -- or can help yourself to free packets of when the opportunity presents itself. I have a friend whose art-school stories of creative ways to intake calories when the choice was art supplies or food made me appreciate my own memories of college cafeterias -- and we were both doing much better then, than a lot of people we knew.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 15 Mar 2017, 07:11
"Fetch me that flower; the herb I show'd thee once..."
Who is the person you are referring to as Flower? So many fit the bill though the flora would cover quite range.
Kiggelaria africana
Rubus allegheniensis
Mimosa Pudica
Ailanthus altissima

Is this the herb you asked for?
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: gopher on 15 Mar 2017, 07:12
Pretty sure Renee will get called on this. Station was called to task for something much similar with the Lieutenant.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Jakk Frost on 15 Mar 2017, 07:12
Now let's have Elliott ask Renee to take off her shirt, to see if he's attracted to her...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: War Sparrow on 15 Mar 2017, 08:44
Well, it turns out that every inch of him isn't covered in hair.

Do you intend to keep making Gaston jokes? Because I am completely down for that.

. I know chefs are figuring out ways tp cook 'em up and charge lots of money for them. I've even seen, and passed up, "gourmet" versions of the humble poutine. Gastronomic gentrification, is what it is.

Gourmet poutine is delicious, you shut your lies. Now, if this wretched place would use beef gravy instead of chicken, I would be much happier.

Comic: "Elliot voted most attractive Hufflepuff, nudging out Cedric Diggory and Teddy Lupin." Rita Skeeter reports.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: anahata on 15 Mar 2017, 09:16
I don't really know what's going on in this strip, but the only interpretation that makes sense to me is:
Renee is doing her usual "overprotective friend" stuff with Brun. She's hoping to find some fatal physical flaw with Elliott in the hopes of putting her off him, but now she's cussing with disappointment because he's perfect.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: chaospersonified on 15 Mar 2017, 09:19
Coming in to say DAMN, Elliot's got shoulders. I say that as a dude who is proud of his shoulders. Takes dedication to get shoulders that fantastic.

I see BenRG is still making theories that are perfectly plausible/would be fantastic if they were canon.

Seems to me that Renee is only just realizing her attraction to her co-worker. She's consciously written him off, previously, SUB-consciously, though, there's been attraction growing. And now, she must face that.

I will now return to only occasionally posting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: themacnut on 15 Mar 2017, 11:26
Well, I called it on the reasoning behind Renee's request. However it seems she's unaware of the fact that physical attraction to a person does not at all a stable foundation for anything substantial make.

No it does not. What it does make, by itself, is for some nice casual banging. Alternatively, it could make for a date or two to investigate if a stable foundation can be built.

Probably not though. I suspect much of a relationship between Renee and Elliot will consist of Renee apologizing for saying something that pissed him off, until finally they both got sick of the cycle and called it off while they were still on speaking terms. Or perhaps because they could no longer stand the sight of each other.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Mar 2017, 14:09
It just occurred to me that the first time we met Elliot, he was talking to Jim.

I think Jeph had an idea for the character he drew, but wasn't sure what to do with him. When the whole issue of bosses came up, he repurposed the character - sans tattoo on the neck.



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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: gprimr1 on 15 Mar 2017, 14:20
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that if the genders were reserved people would be up in arms.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2017, 15:25
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice.
But you're still spending money on ketchup, money that could be spent on not ketchup without ruining your noodles.

Let's just say that some things are available in cut-rate, dollar-store versions and some things aren't, and you go with what you know -- or can help yourself to free packets of when the opportunity presents itself. I have a friend whose art-school stories of creative ways to intake calories when the choice was art supplies or food made me appreciate my own memories of college cafeterias -- and we were both doing much better then, than a lot of people we knew.
Yeah, I really don't think I can portray in words how disgusting I find ketchup, to the point that I won't order hamburgers at fast food places because it's put on by default. Yeah, I could just say "without ketchup," but I shouldn't fucking have to. Honestly, menus everywhere should list every single thing that's included by default, so you know what to request that they omit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: WoaLG on 15 Mar 2017, 15:36
Yeah, I really don't think I can portray in words how disgusting I find ketchup, to the point that I won't order hamburgers at fast food places because it's put on by default. Yeah, I could just say "without ketchup," but I shouldn't fucking have to. Honestly, menus everywhere should list every single thing that's included by default, so you know what to request that they omit.

Why? The overwhelming majority of people do want food as it's normally prepared. Add that to the fact that people are less likely to order when presented with too many options, so it's a better business strategy to simplify. And the worst case scenario if you say "without Ketchup" is that the employee says "None of our burgers come with Ketchup on them."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2017, 15:39
Well, I guess that answers that question then.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2017, 15:44
Yeah, I really don't think I can portray in words how disgusting I find ketchup, to the point that I won't order hamburgers at fast food places because it's put on by default. Yeah, I could just say "without ketchup," but I shouldn't fucking have to. Honestly, menus everywhere should list every single thing that's included by default, so you know what to request that they omit.

Why? The overwhelming majority of people do want food as it's normally prepared. Add that to the fact that people are less likely to order when presented with too many options, so it's a better business strategy to simplify. And the worst case scenario if you say "without Ketchup" is that the employee says "None of our burgers come with Ketchup on them."
Ehh, if it was only ketchup that'd be one thing. But there's also mayo, and who knows what else. That's one of the reasons I'd be thrilled if they replaced people with touchscreens where you could order a burger with exactly like you want with no stress. Anyone familiar with Wawa? That's how you order sandwiches there. It's wonderful.

I'd also feel bad, because making my extremely rare fast food visit more convenient shouldn't cost thousands of people their jobs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Mar 2017, 16:41
If she's gonna date Elliot, she has a lot of teasing to make up for. Consider that his first reaction to 'take of your shirt' is to assume she's gonna prank him.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Wetman on 15 Mar 2017, 17:47
Are there any "curvy" men in the QC? We have Renee, Faye, previously Marigold, and a little for Brun for curvy women but I don't seem to recall any curvy men, or any men with a little extra around the belly or chest. I mean I thought Elliot might be the first but that has been proven wrong with this recent strip.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Mar 2017, 18:05
I THINK one of the 'Bro Chorus' was a bit chunky. That's about all I can think of...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2017, 18:21
Well, there's Marigold's dad, but we've seen him exactly once.

And Chad. Not the one who was (ahem) "entertaining" Claire's mom, but the sexist ass who sold a microphone to Sam. (I still maintain that they are not the same person.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Wetman on 15 Mar 2017, 18:46
So the techophobe conspiracy theorist and a computer douche bag who's only appearance it titled "Fucking Chad, Man" and "Chad is just the worst." I hope we big beautiful men can get some good representation eventually, considering this is the go to comic for a wide variety of body types.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Mar 2017, 18:47
The strip I was talking about. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845)

I contend that Elliot is talking with proto-Jim in that second panel. Consider how different Renee looked then to what she looks like today, and I think you can see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2017, 18:50
I buy that it's Elliot, but there's no fucking way that's Jim.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 15 Mar 2017, 18:50
So the techophobe conspiracy theorist and a computer douche bag who's only appearance it titled "Fucking Chad, Man" and "Chad is just the worst." I hope we big beautiful men can get some good representation eventually, considering this is the go to comic for a wide variety of body types.
Yeah but  would draw the line at a neckbeard outside of a cameo.
Fortunately the classic neckbeards are few and clustered well away from where  frequent but still their encounters are traumatizing to ones view of humanity as a viable species.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Mar 2017, 18:59
I buy that it's Elliot, but there's no fucking way that's Jim.

The reason why is that I think Jeph really didn't know who that character was going to be. When he needed an owner of the shop, he decided to go with someone a bit older, not realizing/remembering he'd originally made the character much younger.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2017, 19:14
Or he used that character as a sort of physical basis for a new one. Whoever that character is probably doesn't work there anymore. Also, I doubt Jim would give that sort of advice.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Mar 2017, 20:11
So the techophobe conspiracy theorist and a computer douche bag who's only appearance it titled "Fucking Chad, Man" and "Chad is just the worst." I hope we big beautiful men can get some good representation eventually, considering this is the go to comic for a wide variety of body types.

Eliot is "big and beautiful".
Men with the body type you describe - like me - are fat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Mar 2017, 20:28
And updated.  :laugh:  Poor Elliot.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Storel on 15 Mar 2017, 20:30
"Sorry, boss. You didn't say Simon Says."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: neurocase on 15 Mar 2017, 20:48
I'd say that hopefully, this results in a firing which puts Renee on the bus, but that's probably wishful thinking. I wasn't fond of Brun to start with, but she's grown on me, if only as a secondary character. Unfortunately, her connections with Renee probably mean we won't be seeing the end of her any time soon. People may draw comparisons to her and early Faye, but unlike her Georgian counterpart, Renee has yet to show very much in the way of redeeming qualities.

And damn, Elliot. For a guy with those shoulders, you don't have a lot of spine between them.

EDIT: A word
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DSL on 15 Mar 2017, 21:03
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice.
But you're still spending money on ketchup, money that could be spent on not ketchup without ruining your noodles.

Let's just say that some things are available in cut-rate, dollar-store versions and some things aren't, and you go with what you know -- or can help yourself to free packets of when the opportunity presents itself. I have a friend whose art-school stories of creative ways to intake calories when the choice was art supplies or food made me appreciate my own memories of college cafeterias -- and we were both doing much better then, than a lot of people we knew.
Yeah, I really don't think I can portray in words how disgusting I find ketchup, to the point that I won't order hamburgers at fast food places because it's put on by default. Yeah, I could just say "without ketchup," but I shouldn't fucking have to. Honestly, menus everywhere should list every single thing that's included by default, so you know what to request that they omit.

Ah, OK. (smile, nod, back slowly away)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 15 Mar 2017, 21:07
If Renee gets fired, it means neither Brun nor Renee have any means of support. Harsh.

For Renee, I'm expecting more along the lines of a dressing-down (see what I did there) than a firing. Unless Renee has a history of harassing other employees, firing seems a little strong. Assuming she's a decent baker, they'd probably want to keep her; those hours are not very attractive, so unless Jim wants to start coming in early, he's probably not about to pink-slip Renee.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 15 Mar 2017, 21:25
Elliot is so adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 15 Mar 2017, 21:28
Are there any "curvy" men in the QC? We have Renee, Faye, previously Marigold, and a little for Brun for curvy women but I don't seem to recall any curvy men, or any men with a little extra around the belly or chest. I mean I thought Elliot might be the first but that has been proven wrong with this recent strip.

To me Elliot is very tall and very muscular, I'm not sure I'd call him "curvy."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2017, 22:36
Are there any "curvy" men in the QC? We have Renee, Faye, previously Marigold, and a little for Brun for curvy women but I don't seem to recall any curvy men, or any men with a little extra around the belly or chest. I mean I thought Elliot might be the first but that has been proven wrong with this recent strip.

Dora described her father as "pudgy" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1041) but I don't quite see it in how he's drawn.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Mar 2017, 23:21
So the techophobe conspiracy theorist and a computer douche bag who's only appearance it titled "Fucking Chad, Man" and "Chad is just the worst." I hope we big beautiful men can get some good representation eventually, considering this is the go to comic for a wide variety of body types.

Eliot is "big and beautiful".
Men with the body type you describe - like me - are fat.
We're not all fat. Some of us are a bit pudgy, chunky, or doughy. And sometimes it accompanies large skeletal frames (regardless of height).

I'm 5'5" (~165cm) and 218 lb (~99kg) with broad shoulders and a barrel chest to boot.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Near Lurker on 15 Mar 2017, 23:27
Elliot seems in good shape, but a teeny bit pudgy - no real muscle definition.  Anyway, more important issue - who is "babe"?

Also, I tend to find that teeny bit of sugar some brands of marinara sauce add nearly unpalatable - I can't imagine how ketchup would taste, plus the different spice profile (typically more from the allspice/cinnamon end).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Mar 2017, 23:41
We're not all fat. Some of us are a bit pudgy, chunky, or doughy. And sometimes it accompanies large skeletal frames (regardless of height).


There's also the matter of personal perspective.  I consider myself rather fat at 6'4" 240.  Then again, I have been careful to avoid adding a bunch of muscle mass.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2017, 00:04
For some reason, I'm expecting the first words Jim will say to Renee are: "Well, I was sort of wondering when this would happen." You see, it's pretty difficult to get mad at, or stay mad at, a woman who I strongly suspect will look seriously traumatised as she tries to stop herself thinking by mass-producing muffins.

I'm expecting all Renee will be able to say to be something like: "It isn't true. It can't be true." The 'locked herself in the kitchen' thing makes me think that this revelation is a lot more unwelcome and upsetting than I previously thought.

FWIW, I don't think Elliott remained shirtless because no-one told him to put it back on. I think he remained shirtless because he was far too busy worrying about Renee's breakdown to think clearly about the fact that he rather should be putting his shirt back on. That's because he's one of life's good guys and he is more prone to worry about others than he does about himself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DuneCanid on 16 Mar 2017, 00:53
Quote from: jheartney
If Renee gets fired, it means neither Brun nor Renee have any means of support. Harsh.

Not being aware of Mass's lag time re: unemployment or JJ's time line, Brun may soon be getting  state checks.  If Brun knows anything about baking, she might eventually end up with renee's position

Quote from: jheartney
For Renee, I'm expecting more along the lines of a dressing-down (see what I did there) than a firing. Unless Renee has a history of harassing other employees, firing seems a little strong. Assuming she's a decent baker, they'd probably want to keep her; those hours are not very attractive, so unless Jim wants to start coming in early, he's probably not about to pink-slip Renee.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: anahata on 16 Mar 2017, 01:10
I'd say that hopefully, this results in a firing which puts Renee on the bus
What??? And deprive us of all the proto-romantic shenanigans for which we're clearly being set up?

Renee is a pain, but every soap opera needs a character that people love to hate.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Akima on 16 Mar 2017, 01:25
I'd say that hopefully, this results in a firing which puts Renee on the bus, but that's probably wishful thinking.
I know you have the "employment at will" thing in the USA (I have no idea how MA state law would interfere), but I'd be a bit surprised if this was a one-strike-and-you're-out matter. The boss could argue that asking a co-worker to take their top off would be sexual harassment, or "creating a hostile workplace", I suppose, but considering the shenanigans people get up to in the workplace in QCverse all the time, I can't see it happening.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2017, 01:56
We're not all fat. Some of us are a bit pudgy, chunky, or doughy. And sometimes it accompanies large skeletal frames (regardless of height).


There's also the matter of personal perspective.  I consider myself rather fat at 6'4" 240.  Then again, I have been careful to avoid adding a bunch of muscle mass.

That's partly why I brought up skeletal frame sizes.

Rough field test: Take your dominant hand and tightly grasp your opposite wrist with just the thumb and middle finger.
If your thumb and middle finger overlap, probably a small bone frame ('lanky' if tall).
If the tips touch, probably  a medium bone frame.
If there's a gap between the tips, probably a large bone frame ('stocky' if short).

This is more taking into account bone width rather than bone length. And, yes, it's ultimately the source of the euphemism "big boned". Which is often true, just with excess body fat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 16 Mar 2017, 02:23
Yeah, mine overlap.  Aside from my hips/butt, I'd be a stick figure if I ate better and didn't drink (I started again the night of 8 Nov).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: JimC on 16 Mar 2017, 04:02
For Renee, I'm expecting more along the lines of a dressing-down
In real life, judging by my own experience in the food trade, it would be "Hey ho, just another day at the office". I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Mar 2017, 04:13
I know you have the "employment at will" thing in the USA (I have no idea how MA state law would interfere), but I'd be a bit surprised if this was a one-strike-and-you're-out matter. The boss could argue that asking a co-worker to take their top off would be sexual harassment, or "creating a hostile workplace", I suppose, but considering the shenanigans people get up to in the workplace in QCverse all the time, I can't see it happening.
If it's a larger corporation and the offender is any less than an executive, insta-firing for sexual harassment accusations is actually quite common, even in states that don't have at-will employment.

Ultimately, the worst that will happen if an employer fires someone on an accusation is that, if a judge rules in an unemployment hearing that the firing was without valid cause, unemployment compensation (and potentially back pay in a state that doesn't have at-will employment) will be provided to the former employee, and unemployment insurance rates for the employer will go up slightly. And, on a sexual harassment accusation, that would almost always be found to be a termination with cause.

Conversely, if they don't fire on the first accusation, they're opening themselves up to liability for creating an unsafe work environment, which could cost them millions in a sexual harassment lawsuit.

As far as smaller employers go, there's less institutional knowledge on the correct responses to sexual harassment, there's less bureaucracy (no formal HR department) to use against a harasser, and there's more likelihood that the harasser is a higher-up in the company (which in any company is more likely to result in no action taken, because a higher-up has more ability to stop the investigation or firing, and because the company values the higher-up more). And, note that many of the workplaces shown in QC have been smaller employers...

And then, food service is another level worse than small employers in general (even - maybe even especially - when it's megacorp food service, due to how those are structured), as I understand - a lot of workers in food service don't know their rights in this regard, there's no HR department to go to, and sexual harassment also comes from the customers.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 16 Mar 2017, 04:31
FWIW, I don't think Elliott remained shirtless because no-one told him to put it back on. I think he remained shirtless because he was far too busy worrying about Renee's breakdown to think clearly about the fact that he rather should be putting his shirt back on. That's because he's one of life's good guys and he is more prone to worry about others than he does about himself.

This isn't the first time something like this has happened, though; see http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1930 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1930). (Admittedly, he did offer to escort Hannelore home, but still...)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2017, 04:42
That previous strip seems to be more a reflection of Hannelore and Elliott's combined social awkwardness leaving them essentially high-and-dry with each other and with no idea what to do next.

It does establish a pattern with Elliott easily being locked into an indecision and hesitation loop when he's forced out of his social comfort zone. I suspect that's what's being happening today: He literally doesn't know what to do about Renee's breakdown and he's essentially locked up trying to work out what to do next. What Jim basically told him is to worry about putting his shirt on first.

So, onto another subject: Sam isn't feeling well. I'm wondering if this will 'splash' onto other cast members? Momo being roped into help as she is, by definition, immune to micro-organisms, for example? Or even something like this:

VERONICA: "I'm sorry about that, Faye. Sam's on the hard cold medication and she's a bit out of it as a result!"

FAYE: "Man! I never realised the kid knew so many cuss words!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 16 Mar 2017, 05:40
I'd say that hopefully, this results in a firing which puts Renee on the bus, but that's probably wishful thinking.
I know you have the "employment at will" thing in the USA (I have no idea how MA state law would interfere), but I'd be a bit surprised if this was a one-strike-and-you're-out matter. The boss could argue that asking a co-worker to take their top off would be sexual harassment, or "creating a hostile workplace", I suppose, but considering the shenanigans people get up to in the workplace in QCverse all the time, I can't see it happening.

Exactly.  I don't think Jim is all that pleased by this, but Renee is the Secret Bakery's Faye and like Dora Jim probably has a higher toleration for shenanigans than most bosses as long as she's a good worker.  This isn't like being caught on the job drinking. 

I don't care much for Renee, but I don't know why people are so eager for her to get fired over this.  It certainly wouldn't help Brun's predicament much. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: blt on 16 Mar 2017, 06:03
I know Jim's feeling in Panel 4 way too well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Mar 2017, 06:27
Ketchup over noodles sounds like something you'd do when every penny has to count, twice.
But you're still spending money on ketchup, money that could be spent on not ketchup without ruining your noodles.

Let's just say that some things are available in cut-rate, dollar-store versions and some things aren't, and you go with what you know -- or can help yourself to free packets of when the opportunity presents itself. I have a friend whose art-school stories of creative ways to intake calories when the choice was art supplies or food made me appreciate my own memories of college cafeterias -- and we were both doing much better then, than a lot of people we knew.
Yeah, I really don't think I can portray in words how disgusting I find ketchup, to the point that I won't order hamburgers at fast food places because it's put on by default. Yeah, I could just say "without ketchup," but I shouldn't fucking have to. Honestly, menus everywhere should list every single thing that's included by default, so you know what to request that they omit.

Ah, OK. (smile, nod, back slowly away)
Is there really no food that you find utterly abhorrent?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 16 Mar 2017, 06:44
I'd say that hopefully, this results in a firing which puts Renee on the bus, but that's probably wishful thinking.
I know you have the "employment at will" thing in the USA (I have no idea how MA state law would interfere), but I'd be a bit surprised if this was a one-strike-and-you're-out matter. The boss could argue that asking a co-worker to take their top off would be sexual harassment, or "creating a hostile workplace", I suppose, but considering the shenanigans people get up to in the workplace in QCverse all the time, I can't see it happening.
No, you're right. IRL, this would put Renee on the bus, period, end of sentence. I've had to deal with this kind of situation as the manager, and it's one of the instant-firing-moments, up with threatening another employee,  being caught drinking on the job, or being caught stealing from the till.

But this is the QCverse, where those rules are lightened.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Y on 16 Mar 2017, 09:59
Cold medicine? Didn't he see 'House M.D.' to know how dangerous that is? What happened to a free day off school?

IRL, this would put Renee on the bus, period, end of sentence. I've had to deal with this kind of situation as the manager, and it's one of the instant-firing-moments, up with threatening another employee,  being caught drinking on the job, or being caught stealing from the till.
I would think that would be only the case if she was a superior of him, I suppose the shop wasn't open yet either and they were the only two there. Then it would just boil down to consent. Come to think about it I heard about stories about things happening in an hot file archive and management knew who they were. Personally I have been slapped on the butt by my direct superior once. As for booze I remember a boss refilling my champagne glass once more and it was a morning meeting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 16 Mar 2017, 10:14
So, onto another subject: Sam isn't feeling well.   I'm wondering if this will 'splash' onto other cast members? Momo being roped into help as she is, by definition, immune to micro-organisms, for example? Or even something like this:

VERONICA: "I'm sorry about that, Faye. Sam's on the hard cold medication and she's a bit out of it as a result!"

FAYE: "Man! I never realised the kid knew so many cuss words!"
Or a Sam health crisis arc waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 16 Mar 2017, 11:30
Or a Sam health crisis arc waiting in the wings.

if you've ever had kids that age, you'd know that the days when they don't have some sort of sniffles/bug are the exception. Grade school kids are illness magnets.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Shjade on 16 Mar 2017, 12:23
I'm thinking that most people on this board just don't see it that way. Typically, sexual harassment isn't done as a plea with puppy-dog eyes as in panel 2 here.

Reverse the roles: Elliot is sympathetically pleading with Renee to take her shirt off.

Still feel that way?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 16 Mar 2017, 12:58
Sometimes I get the feeling that Elliott is a bit slow on the uptake.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: DSL on 16 Mar 2017, 14:50
Is there really no food that you find utterly abhorrent?

Plenty. None, though, that I don't recognize as being liked/put up with in the absence of any alternative by someone not me. You finally did get around to explaining why it was inconceivable (yes, it means what I think it means) to you that someone would see ketchup as a means of adding at least some interest to a food consumed because it was affordable, hence my smiling, nodding and backing slowly away.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2017, 15:03
I'm thinking that most people on this board just don't see it that way. Typically, sexual harassment isn't done as a plea with puppy-dog eyes as in panel 2 here.

Reverse the roles: Elliot is sympathetically pleading with Renee to take her shirt off.

Still feel that way?

Probably not because being begged to remove her blouse is far more threatening to a woman than it could possibly be for a man.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Mar 2017, 15:40
Especially given how much larger Elliott is than Rene. Sure, we know them well enough that Elliott is way to meek to ever attack Rene. But what if we were an outside who saw that. Or what if it wasn't those two, but two other co workers and a guy who had a foot and a half and a hundred pounds asked his female associate to disrobe. What Rene did was wrong, period. That sort of thing has no place in a place of business at all. Given that they are friends-ish at least, if it was done somewhere privately, either of them asking that would have been... awkward, iffish... But not anyone else's business if the other was a willing participant. Even if that was true one friend asking another to strip at work is an offense that could very well get them fired. I don't think Jim will do that, but she's certainly going to get a well deserved yelling.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2017, 17:29
For Renee, I'm expecting more along the lines of a dressing-down
In real life, judging by my own experience in the food trade, it would be "Hey ho, just another day at the office". I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
But it's usually the customers being weird.

So glad I finally got out of the service industry.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 16 Mar 2017, 19:04
Comic's up.

And yes, Renee, that totally is the lesson.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Mar 2017, 19:09
I'm glad that Jim brought up the 'that could be sexual harassment' thing to her. Was funny too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 16 Mar 2017, 20:03
"...shouldn't be allowed to interact with other humans." Renee shows a glimmer of self-awareness. Huzzah.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Mar 2017, 21:04
...  If Brun knows anything about baking, she might eventually end up with renee's position

And wearing the Kiki bow again!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 16 Mar 2017, 22:51
"...shouldn't be allowed to interact with other humans." Renee shows a glimmer of self-awareness. Huzzah.

I'll say it again.  I think this is why she and Brun are friends.  They both have problems interacting with people.  Perhaps that's how they met. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2017, 00:19
To me the important lesson is the complete wrongheadedness of automatic categorisations of actions as certain forms of offence. I mean, it's pretty clear that Renee didn't even think of that and so do lots of people  so accused. All pursuing it does is create grievance that makes it more likely that the next time it is done with malice.

As to what Renee does think of in panel 4? Well, that's kind of worrying; there is a lot of undirected anger there. Maybe that's the problem in the end. She's always been bad at judging boundaries and treating people in the right way. In  the end, she's just given up and decided to respond on reflex. If this goof teaches her nothing at all, it might be to encourage her to try to start thinking ahead again. Jim was right in leaving it at "think about what you're doing next time."

"...shouldn't be allowed to interact with other humans." Renee shows a glimmer of self-awareness. Huzzah.

I'll say it again.  I think this is why she and Brun are friends.  They both have problems interacting with people.  Perhaps that's how they met. 

Just because people have different behavioural issues doesn't mean that this is what brings them together.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Shjade on 17 Mar 2017, 00:39
Probably not because being begged to remove her blouse is far more threatening to a woman than it could possibly be for a man.

"Threatening" isn't the point.

"Creates an uncomfortable/potentially hostile workplace" is the point. It puts Elliot in the position of needing to consider what potential consequences refusing could have on his job/continued working relationship with Renee, etc.

There's a reason laws about this kind of thing exist, and while it is often for the protection of women, it isn't exclusively for women.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: JimC on 17 Mar 2017, 01:01
I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
But it's usually the customers being weird.
You must have worked with a much more head screwed on bunch than me then.

Although I think few of us would have objected to labels like unconventional or eccentric.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: brasca on 17 Mar 2017, 01:56
To me the important lesson is the complete wrongheadedness of automatic categorisations of actions as certain forms of offence. I mean, it's pretty clear that Renee didn't even think of that and so do lots of people  so accused. All pursuing it does is create grievance that makes it more likely that the next time it is done with malice.

As to what Renee does think of in panel 4? Well, that's kind of worrying; there is a lot of undirected anger there. Maybe that's the problem in the end. She's always been bad at judging boundaries and treating people in the right way. In  the end, she's just given up and decided to respond on reflex. If this goof teaches her nothing at all, it might be to encourage her to try to start thinking ahead again. Jim was right in leaving it at "think about what you're doing next time."

"...shouldn't be allowed to interact with other humans." Renee shows a glimmer of self-awareness. Huzzah.

I'll say it again.  I think this is why she and Brun are friends.  They both have problems interacting with people.  Perhaps that's how they met. 

Just because people have different behavioural issues doesn't mean that this is what brings them together.

No, but there is quite the possibility that she was out with a group and having difficulty mingling and the only other having as many problems was Brun. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Akima on 17 Mar 2017, 05:15
I mean, it's pretty clear that Renee didn't even think of that and so do lots of people  so accused.
What people think about their own actions, or fail to think about them, is not authoritative or decisive in deciding whether they are offensive or acceptable to others.

Good "counselling" from Jim though. Focus on the behaviour, not the individual. Self-flagellation is not required.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 17 Mar 2017, 12:04
Just because people have different behavioural issues doesn't mean that this is what brings them together.

in my experience it's precisely social interaction problems that bring together social outcasts. It explained nearly all of my high school social milieu.

This isn't to say it's a bad thing. Brun and Renee probably benefit each other, at least when Renee isn't trying to bigfoot Brun's friendship choices.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2017, 13:50
*Singsong Voice*

Renee's got a cru-ush
Renee's got a cru-ush

:-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Storel on 17 Mar 2017, 17:25
Good "counselling" from Jim though. Focus on the behaviour, not the individual. Self-flagellation is not required.

Yes, for what it's worth I think Jim handled that just right, probably because it's a small enough business that he knows both of the people involved pretty well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: WareWolf on 18 Mar 2017, 13:46


Good "counselling" from Jim though. Focus on the behaviour, not the individual. Self-flagellation is not required.

As an attorney, I can tell you that a "hostile environment" sexual harassment claim CAN be brought based on one incident, but it's a lot less likely to be successful, especially if management takes the step of counseling the offender. Here's the EEOC position:

Petty slights, annoyances, and isolated incidents (unless extremely serious) will not rise to the level of illegality. To be unlawful, the conduct must create a work environment that would be intimidating, hostile, or offensive to reasonable people.

AND:

Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

You could certainly make the argument that asking another employee to disrobe is pretty serious, but given the immediate reaction by upper management, it'd be a tough case to prevail on.

And yes, if Elliot had asked it of Renee, it wouldn't be funny. But he didn't. She did, and it's so incongruous that I at least was amused. And I don't even like Renee very much.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Baphomet on 19 Mar 2017, 05:54
I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
But it's usually the customers being weird.
Strongly disagree. Semi-relatedly, I had a food service job with a young female coworker who always did dishes topless.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: MaxAxe on 20 Mar 2017, 11:59
I am just going to leave this here: I quit reading this comic. I liked the androids, I liked the people, and I liked the kindness. I do not care for the way that the author portrays men; because I'm not trying to troll, or argue, I will not be any more specific.

Sorry, not sorry, just disappointed.

It was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Mar 2017, 12:05
So you're prepared to tell us that you don't like something, but not what you don't like.  That makes it about you and not the comic; so as we don't know you, I guess there's nothing more to discuss here.

But if you change your mind and decide to reveal the secret reason for your dislike, then I'm sure people will be interested to discuss it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Mar 2017, 12:59
Jeph doesn't portray "men". He portrays individuals, some of whom happen to be men. The male characters in QC display a range of personalities and motivations, just like the female characters do. So saying you don't like the way Jeph portrays "men" means nothing because they are no more a monolithic block in QC than they are in the real world.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Mar 2017, 14:20
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 20 Mar 2017, 17:27
And honestly, signing up to a board to JUST say you're leaving the fandom? Really?  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Mar 2017, 17:31
And honestly, signing up to a board to JUST say you're leaving the fandom? Really?  :lol:
Hi, I'm brand new here. Goodbye forever.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 20 Mar 2017, 20:04
It is the Captain Spalding gambit - Hello I must be going.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Mar 2017, 21:04
I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
But it's usually the customers being weird.
You must have worked with a much more head screwed on bunch than me then.

Although I think few of us would have objected to labels like unconventional or eccentric.

I worked at a Walmart for a few years. I've also worked at a McDonald's and a Dollar General.
Though, there's a special term for some shoppers; 'Walmartians'. A portmanteau of 'Walmart' and 'martian'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3436-3441 (13th to 18th March 2017)
Post by: hakko504 on 21 Mar 2017, 00:01
I've seen weirder things than that happen goodness knows how many times.
But it's usually the customers being weird.
You must have worked with a much more head screwed on bunch than me then.

Although I think few of us would have objected to labels like unconventional or eccentric.

I worked at a Walmart for a few years. I've also worked at a McDonald's and a Dollar General.
Though, there's a special term for some shoppers; 'Walmartians'. A portmanteau of 'Walmart' and 'martian'.
After looking at the site www.peopleofwalmart.com a couple of times I can clearly understand what you mean. Some of the stuff posted there is weird. Really Weird.