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Title: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Apr 2017, 20:55
So what'll the gang(s) get up to this week?

Sorry my fitst poll is kind of crap.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 09 Apr 2017, 21:02
Bubbles is absolutely correct in today's strip: as a courtesy to her business partner, Faye should have asked Bubbles before accepting Dora's offer. No, it's not a minor decision. It's worrying that Faye needs to learn this.

Faye and Bubbles, like any partnership, will need to work out the details of how their partnership works. There may be areas in which one or the other is given full authority to make decisions (Bubbles on supplier relationships, Faye on sales, for example). But they'll need to get this decided.

Glad to see Bubbles is ready to put a foot down when Faye screws up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Milayna on 09 Apr 2017, 21:07
Yeah, I'm going to have to come down on Faye's side on this one. This co-signing with Dora, is this something that Bubbles would disapprove of? Then she can voice her disapproval right there and bring it to a halt. Is it something she would approve of? Then whence the problem? In otherwords, she had the opportunity, right there on the couch, as an equal, to approve or disapprove. She did not take it.

If she wanted more advance warning: Faye's phrasing in the third panel is bad, but she's not wrong. She can't run every single thing by Bubbles (Nor can Bubbles run every single thing by Faye; they're on equal grounds here) and some things are time-sensitive and cannot wait for a meeting and debate. Did Faye have any reason to believe that Bubbles would not approve of this? I don't even mean a LIKELY reason; did Faye have any reason AT ALL to believe that Bubbles would be against the idea? I haven't seen any reason for her to expect that. If she (or Bubbles) believes that the other will very likely approve of an idea, then it's reasonable to go ahead with it - in fact it might get tedious to have to "rubberstamp" what the other knows full well they'll approve.

And, well, what exactly HAS Bubbles done in this enterprise? I'm not sure who contacted that landlord but it seems likely it was Faye. Bubbles did inventory and logistics calculations, which are certainly valuable, but not leadership-type things. It was Faye that made the call to the city for permits, Faye who said she poke around for a fab shop, Faye who's done all the negotiating...even with Dora, whom Bubbles had suggested they consult with. I went back a ways and didn't find ANYTHING other than "ask a friend?" that Bubbles has done of her own initiative. What is she doing RIGHT NOW to move this forward? Is she thinking of ideas? Helping look for fab shops? Securing other financial considerations? Looking for clients? Designing trademarks and advertising? Drawing up a business plan? No, she's sitting quietly, reading a book about succulent care. If she wants to be involved equally in making decisions...she needs to actually make decisions, or do things proactively to move forward with this. It isn't fair to leave all of the leadership to Faye then throw a tantrum when she does leader things or that herself is only involved in approving or disapproving the decisions Faye makes. If Faye has to sit on her ass, too, to make it "equal", then this thing will never get off the ground.

Now leader stuff is a skill, mostly for outgoing people, and Bubbles is not. I really don't think that that will be her strong suit, and that's ok, because Faye makes up for that weakness while Bubbles makes up for Faye's weaknesses. But, again, it's not reasonable to expect to be involved in a role that she can't or doesn't proactively go into.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Apr 2017, 21:15
Crap.

I just thought of a less broad poll.
You should be able to change your answers.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Apr 2017, 21:18
The thing is, Bubbles and Faye are meant to be business partners, as in they should both make important decisions together.

Only that didn't happen here, Faye made a huge decision without consulting Bubbles and just came in and announced it. Considering the manipulative crap Bubbles went through with Corpse Witch, then she does have the right to feel angry that Faye made a unilateral decision without at least talking about it.

As for what Bubbles has done or is bringing to the enterprise, well I would say in no particular order; a list of associated business contacts, suppliers, a customer base, experience and technical knowledge as well as equipment and the like. You could argue that Faye could have brought that, but let's be honest, Faye was the last one into the Pitshop at the Skate Park, Bubbles was the one who had all the established connections, arguably making it easier for herself and Faye to get the business from an idea to an actual business.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: brasca on 09 Apr 2017, 21:22
The thing is, Bubbles and Faye are meant to be business partners, as in they should both make important decisions together.

Only that didn't happen here, Faye made a huge decision without consulting Bubbles and just came in and announced it. Considering the manipulative crap Bubbles went through with Corpse Witch, then she does have the right to feel angry that Faye made a unilateral decision without at least talking about it.

As for what Bubbles has done or is bringing to the enterprise, well I would say in no particular order; a list of associated business contacts, suppliers, a customer base, experience and technical knowledge as well as equipment and the like. You could argue that Faye could have brought that, but let's be honest, Faye was the last one into the Pitshop at the Skate Park, Bubbles was the one who had all the established connections, arguably making it easier for herself and Faye to get the business from an idea to an actual business.

Agreed and Faye should know better that the last person Bubbles was in business with together has a lot to do with her current trust issues.  All it would've taken was a courtesy call. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 09 Apr 2017, 21:24
Yeah, I'm going to have to come down on Faye's side on this one. This co-signing with Dora, is this something that Bubbles would disapprove of? Then she can voice her disapproval right there and bring it to a halt. Is it something she would approve of? Then whence the problem? In otherwords, she had the opportunity, right there on the couch, as an equal, to approve or disapprove. She did not take it.

If she wanted more advance warning: Faye's phrasing in the third panel is bad, but she's not wrong. She can't run every single thing by Bubbles (Nor can Bubbles run every single thing by Faye; they're on equal grounds here) and some things are time-sensitive and cannot wait for a meeting and debate. Did Faye have any reason to believe that Bubbles would not approve of this? I don't even mean a LIKELY reason; did Faye have any reason AT ALL to believe that Bubbles would be against the idea? I haven't seen any reason for her to expect that. If she (or Bubbles) believes that the other will very likely approve of an idea, then it's reasonable to go ahead with it - in fact it might get tedious to have to "rubberstamp" what the other knows full well they'll approve.

And, well, what exactly HAS Bubbles done in this enterprise? I'm not sure who contacted that landlord but it seems likely it was Faye. Bubbles did inventory and logistics calculations, which are certainly valuable, but not leadership-type things. It was Faye that made the call to the city for permits, Faye who said she poke around for a fab shop, Faye who's done all the negotiating...even with Dora, whom Bubbles had suggested they consult with. I went back a ways and didn't find ANYTHING other than "ask a friend?" that Bubbles has done of her own initiative. What is she doing RIGHT NOW to move this forward? Is she thinking of ideas? Helping look for fab shops? Securing other financial considerations? Looking for clients? Designing trademarks and advertising? Drawing up a business plan? No, she's sitting quietly, reading a book about succulent care. If she wants to be involved equally in making decisions...she needs to actually make decisions, or do things proactively to move forward with this. It isn't fair to leave all of the leadership to Faye then throw a tantrum when she does leader things or that herself is only involved in approving or disapproving the decisions Faye makes. If Faye has to sit on her ass, too, to make it "equal", then this thing will never get off the ground.

Now leader stuff is a skill, mostly for outgoing people, and Bubbles is not. I really don't think that that will be her strong suit, and that's ok, because Faye makes up for that weakness while Bubbles makes up for Faye's weaknesses. But, again, it's not reasonable to expect to be involved in a role that she can't or doesn't proactively go into.

I don't think that it is entirely fair to judge what Bubbles may or may not currently be doing to propel the business on the mere fact that she happens to be reading a book on succulent care at this specific moment, as though she ought to be working on the business 24/7.

This is merely the latest in a series of unilateral decisions (including that of starting the business in the first place, I might add), otherwise I would agree with the rest of your analysis.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: foolsguinea on 09 Apr 2017, 21:34
#3456!
Sequential digits!

I was looking at Marten in this strip and decided to compare his appearance in #1, #1152 (a third this far), and #1728 (half this far). Still looks like the same guy, actually. Maybe a little different in #2304.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Milayna on 09 Apr 2017, 21:56
If Bubbles is doing stuff to move forward that Faye doesn't know, that's one thing. If she's doing things that readers don't know, that's another. Since I haven't seen her do any leadership stuff, and this is a work of fantasy and conservation of detail applies, I have to assume that she hasn't done any leader stuff.

"experience and technical knowledge" are, again, valuable to an enterprise but they are operational things, not leadership things. Hiring, or finding people with experience and technical knowledge is; determining exactly what capacity the business will need them in is; setting up her own role - supervisor? chief technician? is; those all require consultation with her partner - but merely possessing experience and knowledge does not.

Bringing to the business "a list of associated business contacts, suppliers, a customer base," is also valuable. But has she contacted any of them? Has she determined what roles the business plan needs? Figured out which entries in her list are best for those roles? Which suppliers she wants to contact for which widgets? How much they need? Has she conceptualized any advertisements or an advertisement plan - radio buys, flyers, word of mouth? Has she contacted her potential customer base? Those are all things that she can consult with Faye and make decisions about...or begin unilaterally, if she feels she has the authority.

Merely bringing resources to an operation doesn't impart leadership; it's making decisions about those resources that do. And Bubbles is probably in a position to make more unilateral decisions about this than Faye is - Faye doesn't know anything about Bubbles' contacts. Managing the supply chain is probably Bubbles' province; financial contacts, permits, and spokesmanning is more in Fayes' area; and both of them need to work out their business plan and advertising strategy.

Bubbles coming off a manipulative situation is a good point though. I'm not convinced she really wants to do this, or is just going along with what Faye wants because Faye can be pushy. I don't think that Bubbles really has any idea of what she wants, except maybe to take some respite. In which case, she needs to make a decision and be upfront about it; is she going to commit to this thing or not? If not, she can't just sit on her resources, make Faye pull her along, and then get snappy when Faye pulls.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 09 Apr 2017, 22:11
Okay, fair is fair, this looks like it could develop into decent conflict. I think Bubbles is being overly petty (especially since Faye didn't say that the deal was already signed, just that the problem had been solved,) but it's not entirely unreasonable.
I'm cautiously optomistic that this will develop somewhere interesting and not be solved in a few panels. Slight contrivance aside, it's looking good so far!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 09 Apr 2017, 22:52
Bubbles does have a point, but so does Faye in wanting to 'Strike while the Iron is hot'.

I think that they will sort through this,but I can see it being Friday before they actually sit down and talk it through.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 09 Apr 2017, 22:52
If Bubbles is doing stuff to move forward that Faye doesn't know, that's one thing. If she's doing things that readers don't know, that's another. Since I haven't seen her do any leadership stuff, and this is a work of fantasy and conservation of detail applies, I have to assume that she hasn't done any leader stuff.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3451
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Near Lurker on 09 Apr 2017, 22:58
Correct response, Faye: "well, I mean, it's not signed yet."

Though I guess it's not surprising Bubbles would be hyperaware of power dynamics.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 09 Apr 2017, 23:10
In other words, she had the opportunity, right there on the couch, as an equal, to approve or disapprove. She did not take it.
She did not take it yet, you mean. Bubbles was plainly upset, and went out to cool her temper. That hardly amounts to giving up, once and for all, the opportunity to object on other grounds once she has calmed down.
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Now leader stuff is a skill, mostly for outgoing people, and Bubbles is not.
Perhaps, but between a leader, and the led, there is no equality. Bubbles has objected to Faye's unilateral decision-making before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3448). Faye apologised then, but went ahead and displayed the same behaviour again, ignoring Bubbles's sensitivities on the subject. Faye and Bubbles need to work out what sort of working relationship they're going to have, and whether Bubbles is to be an equal, or a subordinate.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Apr 2017, 23:30
The point here isn't that Bubbles disgrees with Faye's decision. She'd just liked to have heard about it before the deal is done.

In Faye's defence, since when has she ever been in an equal partnership where she needs to consider someone else's position and input? That wasn't even remotely the case during her relationship with Angus. Frankly, this is a mind-set that she is going to need to learn.

In Bubbles' defence, she's been the accoutrement to another being's business before and that didn't really end well for anyone. I can quite understand her unwillingness to let it happen again.

In Marten's defence...? Well, seriously, can anyone blame him at this point if he's tired of being the referee in his friends' relationship troubles?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 10 Apr 2017, 00:16
Faye's list of stuff ups so far is such that Bubbles must be wondering what the hell she's getting into. I would be: indeed I'd be thinking of getting out fast. Apart from what has already been mentioned it was also stupid to get Dora's name on the lease before they knew whether they genuinely had a problem with getting the lease.  Hell, for all they knew all that was needed on the credit rating was "no bad stuff".

...judge what Bubbles may or may not currently be doing to propel the business on the mere fact that she happens to be reading a book on succulent care at this specific moment...
Especially as I'm damn sure a military AI will have a significant multi tasking capability, and she could very easily be sitting there on line discussing options and issues with a whole wagonload of other AIs. Would an AI really feel the need to go and see their lawyer/banker/supplier network etc physically? I strongly suspect not. I bet Bubbles can do all the business communication required just sitting in the chair: at least if it only involves other AIs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Apr 2017, 00:29
Okay, fair is fair, this looks like it could develop into decent conflict. I think Bubbles is being overly petty (especially since Faye didn't say that the deal was already signed, just that the problem had been solved,) but it's not entirely unreasonable.
I'm cautiously optomistic that this will develop somewhere interesting and not be solved in a few panels. Slight contrivance aside, it's looking good so far!

Now, this might be putting the cart before the horse, but since when has that stopped this forum, but Bubbles might see this as an organic-AI divide that seems somewhat prevalent in the wider QC community. She has experienced some of the discrimination from both sides and given her own somewhat fragile state, it could be a case that Bubbles might see this as Faye being insensitive and not treating her as an equal partner, or even as a partner at all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 10 Apr 2017, 00:43
I don't think she sees it as an Organic-AI thing. I think she is understandably sensitive to having her agency ignored. She just spent several years in indentured servitude. Her oppressor was an AI. This is about Faye not respecting her agency or  opinion. Bubbles has no desire to return to a state of being someone else's tool. She's a free entity and should be respected as one.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: mikmaxs on 10 Apr 2017, 00:50
^All the above is why I'm giving Bubbles the benefit of the doubt here. She's just out of a bad situation, and has the right to be a bit paranoid and overly defensive.
The thing that bothers me more is her followup. Being annoyed that Faye made a decision without her is fair. Faye's defense (That she shouldn't have to run everything by her) is not very solid. But Bubbles doesn't respond by pointing out that, say, getting someone to co-sign is a really big deal, or that sending a text to check is not very difficult, or even that a delay is absolutely worth making sure that they are on the same page, she instead pedantically interpret's Faye's words in such a way as to get the most negative possible result, when she should know by know that Faye does not put very much thought into her words before she speaks.
(For the record, I'm reading Faye's statement as 'A certain level of autonomy from each other is required in order to make progress without excessive delay.' If anyone else thinks she means something else, feel free to offer up your interpretation.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 10 Apr 2017, 01:34
Faye was enthusiastic because of relief, which is understandable.

But YEAH she should have at least called Bubbles first. Or something.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 10 Apr 2017, 02:43
Or something, yeah.

For example, panel one could have been Faye saying, "Dora has offered to co-sign the lease for us. This would mean that credit will no longer be an issue. What do you think?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 10 Apr 2017, 02:52
Most of what I came here to say has already been said. 

I agree that Faye should have picked up the hint the first time.

But, Faye has always been fairly self-centered and she's never been in a true partnership-of-equals situation (that we've seen), certainly not in business. It's not easy. It's a lot more difficult than being either boss or employee, since there will be a lot of little things that really don't need the partners to agree, and you have to figure out what the little things are vs the big things. Faye has had no practice at it.

And now for something nobody has mentioned yet: And neither has Bubbles. Bubbles may well want that, but she's had no practice at it either. In fact, she hasn't had that much experience interacting with organic folk at all, outside of the military (which is hardly helpful if you're not going into another strict hierarchy) and the CoD gang. She likely sees Dora as "boss" and, fair or not, she remembers CorpseWitch and wonders if Dora is really any better.

I think Faye was right to tell the landlord a co-signer was available, in case someone else was interested in the space - but before accepting Dora's offer, she should have presented it to Bubbles as an opportunity not yet finalized, and asked "what do you think?"

After all, this represents a major financial commitment. Consider that Bubbles doesn't know Dora all that well. How does she know Dora won't suddenly decide to take over? Does Bubbles even know what legal rights a co-signer has? What exactly will Bubbles be on the hook for here? Again, as others have said, she's fresh out of a situation with a very bad boss and she has zero experience in the one she's getting into.

In short, people and AIs do screw up. It's a fixable problem as long as they can talk about it. I think Bubbles' "gotta take a walk" is unhelpful (maybe necessary, given that the alternative might be punching walls, but not as helpful as staying and not punching walls and talking), but understandable; in her mind her previous objection to Faye is probably still very fresh and she may feel very hurt that Faye seems to be ignoring it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: blt on 10 Apr 2017, 03:34
Yeah, I'm going to have to come down on Faye's side on this one. This co-signing with Dora, is this something that Bubbles would disapprove of? Then she can voice her disapproval right there and bring it to a halt. Is it something she would approve of? Then whence the problem? In otherwords, she had the opportunity, right there on the couch, as an equal, to approve or disapprove. She did not take it.

Agreed somewhat, but they way Faye phrases it doesn't ask for assent/dissent, she just states it as a given that this is the course of action they're taking.

The way things are phrased are extremely important to Bubbles, not just the two examples in this strip, but since her introduction; Faye being noncommittal about her coat means she looks silly, people talking about her height meanso they are intimidated, etc.  It's part of her character, not just "an AI thing" to be overly concerned with phrasing, for whatever reason we may or may not see.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Apr 2017, 04:29
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic. She's nervous about how people will react to her; she's nervous about the possibility that Faye is ignoring her; she's nervous about whether she can care for a potted plant. She's someone who needs a lot of reassurance and communication to help her handle her fears.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 10 Apr 2017, 04:50
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.

I'm not sure I'd go quite that far.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: blt on 10 Apr 2017, 05:39
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.

I'm not sure I'd go quite that far.

Maybe in terms of the meaning of neurotic as being mentally ill, but Bubbles is just about the definition of neuroticism on the Big Five scale.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 10 Apr 2017, 05:56
I'm unfamiliar with that, actually.

Okay, well let's break this down a bit more.

She's nervous about how people will react to her ...

Does that count as neurotic when she has completely valid reasons for being nervous about how people react to her? I'm not sure it does. I'm no psychologist, though.

... she's nervous about the possibility that Faye is ignoring her ...

I don't think so, but maybe I'm misunderstanding this one. She's annoyed about being treated as a subordinate. That's neither nervousness, nor is it about feeling ignored.

... she's nervous about whether she can care for a potted plant ...

I don't see this either. She's rather heavily invested in it, more than one might expect, but she does not appear to be nervous about it in any way.

She's someone who needs a lot of reassurance and communication to help her handle her fears.

Well, she handled them quite independently before Faye came along, so I don't see that either.

I certainly wouldn't have drawn that conclusion from her reaction to recent events. I thought that her reaction to the way Faye is behaving was perfectly sane and not even remotely "neurotic."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Apr 2017, 06:02
She's someone who needs a lot of reassurance and communication to help her handle her fears.

Well, she handled them quite independently before Faye came along, so I don't see that either.

Actually, she didn't even come close to handling them independently. She just hid in her cell, occasionally had angry outbursts and tried to eschew all but the most necessary social contact with others. Yes, Corpse Witch reinforced those behaviours but they were still there to start with.

I'm not saying that Bubbles is 'insane' in the specific definition or even broader terms of the word. What I'm saying is that she has genuine emotional difficulties (some if not all of which are certainly trauma-induced) and this leads her to react in extreme ways to social and personal pressures.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 10 Apr 2017, 06:09
Yes, you are right for sure. She has emotional difficulties without a doubt, unfortunately.

Her emotional difficulties may well even interact with the way she deals with the disagreement she has now had with Faye. We will soon see.

I don't think that her reaction to Faye's unilateral decision-making indicates any kind of emotional difficulties, though. Her reaction is quite understandable to me. I guess that is what I was really trying to say.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 10 Apr 2017, 06:34
Having emotional difficulties and being neurotic are not the same thing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Apr 2017, 08:01
With respect to the poll, I'm thinking of just how much a 'fixer-upper' the new location for Faye and Bubbles' workshop might be. The moment I first saw it, I could hear the late, great Harold Ramis's deadpan delivery:

"I think this building should be condemned. There's serious metal fatigue in all the load-bearing members, the wiring is substandard, it's completely inadequate for our power needs and the neighborhood is like a demilitarized zone."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: themacnut on 10 Apr 2017, 08:25
Let's not forget this is the second time that Bubbles has called Faye out on this behavior, probably in as many days (or even less - it might be the same day!). I'd be pissed in Bubble's place as well, and I may also, as JimC said, be reconsidering the partnership. The storming out isn't helping, but it's better that punching holes in the walls.

Yeah, they both have much to learn about being business partners. Let's hope their partnership survives the learning curve, eh?

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Magniras on 10 Apr 2017, 08:35
So, Faye is able to get them the space that they both wanted and went to Bubbles to deliver the news and get input on it from her, but Bubbles is annoyed because Faye didn't run the decision by her first?

What?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 10 Apr 2017, 08:52
Is the PAC model of interactions in Transactional analysis still a current means of thinking? I was just struck by how often Faye seems to play the "I'm mummy and I know what's good for you" role with Bubbles, going right back a long way. And here it is again. "How come she's getting upset when I'm doing what's clearly the right thing for her"

Its always revealing who you empathise with in fictional situations and Bubbles at the moment with  "when talked down to gets spectacularly angry, but walks out rather than start fighting" fits me like a glove I fear.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 10 Apr 2017, 09:04
I was just struck by how often Faye seems to play the "I'm mummy and I know what's good for you" role with Bubbles, going right back a long way.

And here it is again. "How come she's getting upset when I'm doing what's clearly the right thing for her"

Great observation.

Remember, Faye is still pretty broken. There's been nothing to hint that she's really come to grips with her father's suicide. Her constant sass is a way of maintaining distance, keeping everyone a little bit at arm's length. Tough to have a partnership of equals that way.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: themacnut on 10 Apr 2017, 09:34
The sad thing is, there may be no way for Faye to truly come to terms with her father's suicide, especially since he didn't even leave a note. She may just have to find a way to live with it that isn't self-destructive, and learn to open her heart to people in spite of knowing they may someday leave.

Sometimes there is no closure, except maybe in your own heart. Sometimes you have to accept there will be no closure and find a way to move on anyway.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2017, 09:57
Bubbles: Ask Dora for help.
(later)
Faye: Dora's gonna help!

An oversimplification, and Faye phrased things poorly, but there's no indication that anything was done that wasn't reversible.

Hell, Faye could have been saying "she offered, and I ran right over to let you know we had an option!" before being cut off.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 10 Apr 2017, 10:06
Does Bubbles have a phone? Or at least an internal interface that'll allow her to access/send texts? (If not, she needs to get one.) "Lemme run this past Bubbles" is all Faye needs to say, particularly before talking to the landlord. "Bubbles, Dora has offered to co-sign on the lease, which eliminates our credit problem. Is that OK?" Does not need to take much time, respects Bubbles'  opinion and agency, gets the job done. Absolutely necessary in a working partnership that partners maintain open communication.

Faye's statement to Marten "Back me up here" is also problematic. She's not asking for an opinion, she's looking for support. Against her own business partner.  Loud warning bells.

Bubbles walking out after objecting, rather than staying and resolving the issue, is also a bad sign. Both need to get a handle on this partnership thing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: gprimr1 on 10 Apr 2017, 11:02
Not everyone is comfortable borrowing money or having friends co-sign leases. It can ruin a friendship if something goes south.

Signing leases aren't minor business decisions, they are major ones. Bubbles is right to be mad that Faye isn't bringing up major business decisions.

I think this is going to provide a decent bit of conflict for a while. Faye, who has to control everything, vs Bubbles, who just got out of having everything controlled for her.

I can also see this flipping, right now Faye is wrong for making major decisions w/o getting Bubbles advice, but I could also see later on Bubbles having a fit over things that truly are minor decisions.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Apr 2017, 11:06
Bubbles: Ask Dora for help.
(later)
Faye: Dora's gonna help!

An oversimplification, and Faye phrased things poorly, but there's no indication that anything was done that wasn't reversible.

Hell, Faye could have been saying "she offered, and I ran right over to let you know we had an option!" before being cut off.

Yes, but Bubbles was talking about getting advice from Dora, who is a successful business owner, about what they actually need in terms of paperwork to start their business. There is a world of difference between "What do I need to start a business here in town?" and "I just co-signed a lease with my best friend/former employer and I didn't think to call you before I called the guy who showed us the space."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 10 Apr 2017, 12:12
She wasn't running over to tell Bubbles first though. The first person she called was the landlord to agree to the lease. She cut Bubbles out of the decision to get a co-signer. In fact she never even brought it up. She went to Dora to talk about it and Dora was the one to offer it. The appropriate thing to do would be for Faye to call Bubbles first. But she didn't, she didn't consider Bubbles opinion on the matter or her position as partner. She just made a decision that would affect both of them.

If this was the first time Faye has done that, it would be one thing. But she has a history of repeatedly doing that to Bubbles. Making a decision, then expecting her to follow along with it. So far, those decisions have worked out in the end. But as someone who just stopped being a slave, then you can see why Bubbles would be uncomfortable with Faye stripping Bubbles agency away again, however unintentionally. Honestly, sitting down and talking about how they were going to make decisions is something they should have done in the first place. But Faye rarely thinks before acting, going for what feels right to her at the moment. And Bubbles avoids conflict like it burns. But if they want this project to succeed, they will need to have that talk sooner rather than later. Then stick to the plan.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2017, 15:39
She's talking about it in the future tense. She clearly didn't sign the lease yet, and it seems like Faye did run over as soon as Dora offered, even if she did assume Bubbles would be ok with it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Apr 2017, 16:37
Bubbles wariness stems from what happened with Corpse Witch and her 'Indentured Servitude' under her before Faye came on the scene and is understandable.  Faye means well, but Bubbles fears being trapped in another Corpse Witch situation.

I that she and Faye once they've  had a chance to thrash things through, Bubbles willr realose  that that was not Fayes intention.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2017, 20:22
This whole dumb thing would've been avoided if she'd said "Dora's willing to" instead of "Dora's gonna". Well...maybe.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Apr 2017, 22:01
Bubbles is worried that she might have traded one Corpse Witch for another.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Apr 2017, 22:13
So,,it's either talk to Hanners or go to the Dump and smash Refrigerators

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: brasca on 10 Apr 2017, 22:37
Guess this means Punchbot won't be a regular at Coffee of Doom.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Zog on 10 Apr 2017, 23:03
If I were Bubbles it would also bother me that Faye referred to my credit rating in terms that could be considered insulting. I have seen nothing to indicate that she has any idea what Bubbles' credit rating might be.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Apr 2017, 23:21
I love Bubbles' body posture in panel 4. She really, really didn't realise that having friends means that you're not allowed to hurt in isolation and silence anymore. That said, it is significant that she should have (apparently without any conscious choice on her part) gone to Coffee of Doom rather than to the junk yard. I wonder how long it will take her to realise what this means in terms of the change of her own thinking patterns?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: gopher on 11 Apr 2017, 00:58
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.

More Positronic to me. #3Laws.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Apr 2017, 01:56
The refrigerators or the junk yard  owners, Bubbles?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 11 Apr 2017, 02:31
Yes.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 11 Apr 2017, 02:43
Yes.  :-D


Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Apr 2017, 03:33
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Apr 2017, 06:03
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.
.

That's cold, dude.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 11 Apr 2017, 06:09
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.
.
That's cold, dude.
If it was then it would not be in the junk yard, right?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Oenone on 11 Apr 2017, 06:32
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.

Nah, I bet they just switch chasses. It'd be too dark to have sentient beings in a dump because they no longer work right.  :(
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Apr 2017, 07:19
Two thoughts:

It would be interesting to have someone point out to Dora that she might be overcompensating in helping Faye due to residual guilt. She didn't see how bad Faye's drinking was getting until she crashed & burned, and may still feel guilty.

And it occurs to me that Bubbles may be skitish about making deals with people in general. Considering her last deal got her in near slavery for YEARS....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: miados on 11 Apr 2017, 08:14
Two thoughts:

It would be interesting to have someone point out to Dora that she might be overcompensating in helping Faye due to residual guilt. She didn't see how bad Faye's drinking was getting until she crashed & burned, and may still feel guilty.

And it occurs to me that Bubbles may be skitish about making deals with people in general. Considering her last deal got her in near slavery for YEARS....

seems like a legitimate concern but i think that creepybot showed her that faye at least cares but at the same time if you feel like you are doing something with someone and they take a huge step without you, even if its not signed yet, it feels like you dont matter.

I understand both of their logic and neither is exactly wrong but neither is exactly right. i suspect dora will talk to bubbles soon based on her current location in the comic world.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Apr 2017, 11:35
Faye and Bubbles both have a lot to learn about partnerships. I think they will learn it and their lives will be better for it.

Their future marriages, if any, will be healthier as a result of the experience they get in communication and decision-making.

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Bubbles has shown flashes of leadership qualities, enough to leave us speculating about whether she had a command position in the service.

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Global Moderator Comment Any objection if I change "CDT" to "WCDT" in the thread title?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Somebody on 11 Apr 2017, 11:36
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.

Nah, I bet they just switch chasses [sic]. It'd be too dark to have sentient beings in a dump because they no longer work right.  :(
Yeah, where do you think this is? Bedrock?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Apr 2017, 13:19
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.

Nah, I bet they just switch chasses [sic]. It'd be too dark to have sentient beings in a dump because they no longer work right.  :(
Yeah, where do you think this is? Bedrock?

Yeah, where do you think this is? America?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 11 Apr 2017, 14:16
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.

More Positronic to me. #3Laws.

You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Apr 2017, 15:07

Any objection if I change "CDT" to "WCDT" in the thread title?


Not at all. It's been bothering me, TBH.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 11 Apr 2017, 15:57
It'd be too dark to have sentient beings in a dump because they no longer work right.  :(
Two words: retirement communities...

You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...
You mean a SF author employed technobabble that wasn't 100% scientifically accurate!?!?! I am shocked, shocked I tell you! You'll be telling me next that the spaceships in The Expanse should have large heat-radiators...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 11 Apr 2017, 16:22
You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...

(https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/a24a2e7792803754852d95c50bb2a3fa8e4be600)

:-D  [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Apr 2017, 17:35
This is a placeholder that will get merged with the current weekly comic thread, not to replace it, but just to change its thread title.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 11 Apr 2017, 18:42
Basically, I think that we can say that Bubbles is somewhat neurotic.
More Positronic to me. #3Laws.
You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...

I am not so sure of the correlation of the nomenclature.
It really was handwaving by a really good writer though.

In semiconductor theory, a conductor can be saturated with electrons, and the repulsion causes them to maintain a specific pattern.
A space can exist that has no electron, and it acts as if it is something real with a positive charge. It's called a hole.
There's a whole way of looking at semiconductors where the holes are considered to explain the action of the semiconductor and it refers to "hole current".
This is the 'positronic' system that Asimov was using and a lot of authors and researchers latter on ran with the idea.
Nothing to do with particle physics though the physicists may have absconded with the term for their own use, just like spin, flavor and orientation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 11 Apr 2017, 19:14
Go on --- Tell us about muons. Just like electrons, but punchier.

So why are the specials apologizing about meat? Last I looked, they were all about blood.
Clearly I need to get out more...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 11 Apr 2017, 19:15
Nothing to do with particle physics though the physicists may have absconded with the term for their own use, just like spin, flavor and orientation.

Naw, that's just Asimow who is calling a hole a 'positron'. There's too many high-energy guys working in condensed matter theory to get away with abusing jargon like that. Wrt. e.g. sublattice 'spin' in Graphene, though, you may be have a point ...

(https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/e0a23b5dd2bb320309ff36e29ac045c4973d827f)

:-D

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As a consequence, at low energies, even neglecting the true spin, the electrons can be described by an equation that is formally equivalent to the massless Dirac equation. Hence, the electrons and holes are called Dirac fermions. (Wiki: Graphene, Electronic properties, Dispersion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene#Electronic))

P.S.: OK, it's actually (a k*p - approximation of a tight-binding calculation of Graphene close to the Dirac-points that conveniently resembles) a Dirac-equation in 2D, rather than a Dirac-equation in 3+1 D, but still ...

P.P.S.: Sorry for the geekery - that's actually (part of) my research interest.


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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 11 Apr 2017, 19:24
Susan Calvin : first robopsychologist.
Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham: first robopsychotherapist.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 11 Apr 2017, 21:01
You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...
You mean a SF author employed technobabble that wasn't 100% scientifically accurate!?!?! I am shocked, shocked I tell you! You'll be telling me next that the spaceships in The Expanse should have large heat-radiators...
In this case, I would be very surprised if Asimov himself didn't know perfectly well that he was spouting technobabble. He had a Ph.D. in Biochemistry, and taught at Boston University for many years
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 11 Apr 2017, 21:49
You know, once I found out that a positron is just an anti-matter electron, I realized that Asimov's positronic brains didn't make any sense. Anything you can do with positrons, you can do with electrons much more easily since you don't have to worry about building your computer out of antimatter...
You mean a SF author employed technobabble that wasn't 100% scientifically accurate!?!?! I am shocked, shocked I tell you! You'll be telling me next that the spaceships in The Expanse should have large heat-radiators...
In this case, I would be very surprised if Asimov himself didn't know perfectly well that he was spouting technobabble. He had a Ph.D. in Biochemistry, and taught at Boston University for many years
Yes, he was aware that it was technobabble. He says so in one of the volumes of his autobiography. (Sorry I can't remember which volume; I read them both a long time ago.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Apr 2017, 23:11
Basically, what it comes down to is that Bubbles has serious anger issues and serious betrayal issues. Both of these are entirely understandable. However, you can't deny the truth of what Hannelore said: Faye really is experiencing a child-like excitement here and you have to give a degree of understanding to that too.

What is needed is for Faye and Bubbles to actually tell each other these things. Of course, neither of them are good with social stuff so I don't imagine something like that would happen quickly or easily.

Meanwhile, they really need to get Bubbles' punching bag back.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Apr 2017, 23:19
She had to specify "old refrigerators" because newer models in the QCverse not only have feelings but talk about them all the damned time.

Nah, I bet they just switch chasses. It'd be too dark to have sentient beings in a dump because they no longer work right.  :(
You might want to remind Dr. Thomas Light and the other citizens of his city about that point.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Apr 2017, 23:24

Any objection if I change "CDT" to "WCDT" in the thread title?


Not at all. It's been bothering me, TBH.
Uggh. I didn't even notice it.

Thank you

Bogdamned autocorrect. I have it turned off and it still messes with stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 11 Apr 2017, 23:41
Okay, for those of us who don't know much about fancy coffee, why would punching coffee beans in a bucket allow them to make Turkish coffee? And how the hell did the Turks make it before robots the size and strength of Bubbles were available to punch the beans? I am much confuzzled.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 12 Apr 2017, 00:06
Okay, for those of us who don't know much about fancy coffee, why would punching coffee beans in a bucket allow them to make Turkish coffee?

-> http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/RL/turkish-coffee-culture-and-tradition-00645

And how the hell did the Turks make it before robots the size and strength of Bubbles were available to punch the beans? I am much confuzzled.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Turkish_Coffee_and_Pepper_Grinders.JPG/1280px-Turkish_Coffee_and_Pepper_Grinders.JPG)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 12 Apr 2017, 00:32
The beans for Turkish coffee are very finely ground. Traditionally this was done with a pestle and mortar. Presumably Hanners has in mind that Bubbles's fists would serve as the pestle, and the bucket as the mortar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Apr 2017, 01:44
The beans for Turkish coffee are very finely ground. Traditionally this was done with a pestle and mortar. Presumably Hanners has in mind that Bubbles's fists would serve as the pestle, and the bucket as the mortar.
Assuming the bucket holds up.  :-D

I guess this means they've got a copper bricke (sp?) lying around to roast it in.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 12 Apr 2017, 04:00
The beans for Turkish coffee are very finely ground. Traditionally this was done with a pestle and mortar. Presumably Hanners has in mind that Bubbles's fists would serve as the pestle, and the bucket as the mortar.
Previous attempts to use Pintsize's head for the bucket had unfortunate results.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2017, 05:14
Susan Calvin : first robopsychologist.
Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham: first robopsychotherapist.

She's also a robopharmacologist, based on the effects of her tea!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: hakko504 on 12 Apr 2017, 06:52
This probably merits a new topic, but I'll post it here anyway:
The Kickstarter for QC vol6 is now live at: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1677416093/questionable-content-volume-6?ref=user_menu (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1677416093/questionable-content-volume-6?ref=user_menu)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: jheartney on 12 Apr 2017, 07:18
"I am concerned that this pattern of behavior will continue. Perhaps this entire venture was a mistake."

Bubbles, you need to be saying this to Faye, not to Hanners. Let Faye know that the whole idea isn't going to happen absent better behavior. Then follow through if she gives you flak.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 12 Apr 2017, 08:00
Bubbles, you need to be saying this to Faye, not to Hanners. Let Faye know that the whole idea isn't going to happen absent better behavior. Then follow through if she gives you flak.
And hand her a fresh cup of your Turkish coffee as a very nuanced statement.

On the bucket durability question I would hazard that it would be one reserved to only handle beans in the first place.
If Faye was involved in its manufacture, not only would it be durable but aesthetically interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2017, 09:48
"I am concerned that this pattern of behavior will continue. Perhaps this entire venture was a mistake."

Bubbles, you need to be saying this to Faye, not to Hanners. Let Faye know that the whole idea isn't going to happen absent better behavior. Then follow through if she gives you flak.

I think the problem here is that while both Faye and Bubbles are good people, their experiences mean that they also not the most trusting and I think that carries across in how they deal with people. In Faye's case, its acting without thinking by accepting Dora's offer to cosign the lease and in Bubble's case, its storming out and threatening to punch something. And you're right that they do need to sit down and talk about these issues now before they get in too deep and can't get out.

But that's easier said than done when the problem is a rock and a hard-case.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 12 Apr 2017, 10:05
But that's easier said than done when the problem is a rock and a hard-case. an armored combat chassis.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 12 Apr 2017, 10:13
Faye really is experiencing a child-like excitement here and you have to give a degree of understanding to that too.

I'm not at all sure that understanding that my business partner was making flawed decisions due to child-like excitement would in any way add to my confidence and security...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2017, 10:55
But that's easier said than done when the problem is a rock and a hard-case. an armored combat chassis.
You forget, Faye's the hard-case.  :-P :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2017, 11:04
Faye really is experiencing a child-like excitement here and you have to give a degree of understanding to that too.

I'm not at all sure that understanding that my business partner was making flawed decisions due to child-like excitement would in any way add to my confidence and security...

I think that you're overstating the seriousness of Faye's social faux pas somewhat. She didn't flush the business down the toilet, she just failed to consult in advance on a completely reasonable call due to excitement.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 12 Apr 2017, 11:24
Faye really is experiencing a child-like excitement here and you have to give a degree of understanding to that too.

I'm not at all sure that understanding that my business partner was making flawed decisions due to child-like excitement would in any way add to my confidence and security...

I think that you're overstating the seriousness of Faye's social faux pas somewhat. She didn't flush the business down the toilet, she just failed to consult in advance on a completely reasonable call due to excitement.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 12 Apr 2017, 12:57
Bubbles, that is how I feel after therapy much of the time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 12 Apr 2017, 13:57
I think that you're overstating the seriousness of Faye's social faux pas somewhat.

Think we'd better abandon plans for BenRg & JimC Enterprises PLC, I foresee culture clashes [grin]
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2017, 14:09
I think that you're overstating the seriousness of Faye's social faux pas somewhat.

Think we'd better abandon plans for BenRg & JimC Enterprises PLC, I foresee culture clashes [grin]

T.E.D. Solutions will be more than happy to enter into a business partnership with you Jim.
You'll gain access to: - Excellent healthcare, because at T.E.D. Solutions, we don't believe in throwing people into volcanoes.
- Minions, like actually competent ones.
- We have cookies. And muffins. And brownies! All your favourite baked goods!
- A great dental plan, after all, what else can we do with these oversized bionic jaws in stock?

All I need is your signature in blood here, here and here and the use of your soul every other Tuesday and every Friday 13th.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 12 Apr 2017, 15:55
Seems fair. If you could just let me have your bank account details we'll get this going...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2017, 15:57
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Milayna on 12 Apr 2017, 16:43
She wasn't running over to tell Bubbles first though. The first person she called was the landlord to agree to the lease. She cut Bubbles out of the decision to get a co-signer. In fact she never even brought it up.
But...that's not what happened. Her phone call with the landlord was not legally binding - that's both obvious, and indicated by the fact that she said she'd send the paperwork (which WOULD be legally binding). And of course she'd check that the idea was ok with the landlord - it would be pointless to bother Bubbles with it if the landlord was going to tell her to get bent halfway through her sentence.

Bubbles isn't cut out of the decision at all. Nothing has been signed. Faye's made sure the idea wasn't a dud, and personally speaking, if *I* was in Bubbles' position that's what I'd want her to do before coming to me, too - I wouldn't want Faye to waste my time with something that she hasn't even verified is feasible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2017, 18:05
She wasn't running over to tell Bubbles first though. The first person she called was the landlord to agree to the lease. She cut Bubbles out of the decision to get a co-signer. In fact she never even brought it up.
Bubbles isn't cut out of the decision at all. Nothing has been signed. Faye's made sure the idea wasn't a dud, and personally speaking, if *I* was in Bubbles' position that's what I'd want her to do before coming to me, too - I wouldn't want Faye to waste my time with something that she hasn't even verified is feasible.

The thing is, Bubbles suggested that Faye should talk to Dora because she knew that Dora would at least have the experience and knowledge of setting up a new business.

She never said anything about anything other than getting advice.

Its the equivalent of sending Jack to market to sell off the family cow, only for Jack to come back with half a loaf of bread. Yeah, it'll feed the family, but its not what you asked for, now is it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: brasca on 12 Apr 2017, 18:28
Basically, what it comes down to is that Bubbles has serious anger issues and serious betrayal issues. Both of these are entirely understandable. However, you can't deny the truth of what Hannelore said: Faye really is experiencing a child-like excitement here and you have to give a degree of understanding to that too.

What is needed is for Faye and Bubbles to actually tell each other these things. Of course, neither of them are good with social stuff so I don't imagine something like that would happen quickly or easily.

Meanwhile, they really need to get Bubbles' punching bag back.

Punching bags don't last long with Bubbles.  Remember how many she went through the last time she got angry?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Penquin47 on 12 Apr 2017, 22:17
Grr. Argh.  Yet another long-haired character chops it all off.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Welu on 12 Apr 2017, 22:20
Nooooo. Claire does look super cute but I'm always a little bummed when Jeph gives a long-haired character a haircut.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Wagimawr on 12 Apr 2017, 22:25
Yet another long-haired character chops it all off.
Nooooo. Claire does look super cute but I'm always a little bummed when Jeph gives a long-haired character a haircut.

Jeph is aware. From Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/850135361913315333
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 12 Apr 2017, 22:49
Sounds like Jeph has trouble drawing long hair...

Yeah, my first thought on looking at the comic was "My God, Claire, what did you do to your hair?" Then I read the page title: "She got a Clairecut" and went "Ohh..."

Way to anticipate our question, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2017, 23:15
I know that this might sound odd but the thing is... I can't help but wonder just how often Claire ends up reading 'interesting-seeming' books rather than stacking them. I mean, it isn't wrong but maybe she needs to work on her focus a little. That said, this is clearly something Jeph wants to add to the character of Claire - She might suddenly expositing on some random subject because she read the book and there's no telling in advance what subject she might have book knowledge on. This could turn out to be useful but it might also turn out to be annoying, depending on the context.

So... yeah. Not a great fan of Claire's new look. I know that Jeph is into the back of women's necks in a big way but that's what Claire's ponytail was all about. No, sorry, Jeph; it's not working for her.

It doesn't help that the length of Claire's hair changes noticeably between panels 1 and 3 making me think that it is some kind of mutant growth that changes length depending on her mood. Can she grab things with it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: St.Clair on 12 Apr 2017, 23:25
and so we go from Hanners to the only character with hair more floofy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 12 Apr 2017, 23:48
⊙▂⊙

Claire's eyes
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Apr 2017, 00:20
I know that this might sound odd but the thing is... I can't help but wonder just how often Claire ends up reading 'interesting-seeming' books rather than stacking them. I mean, it isn't wrong but maybe she needs to work on her focus a little. 
If you came across an interesting sounding old book, like say 'Nature Cure' (1930s) or 'How to Never Be Tired' (1945), wouldn't you read it too?

in case anyone is curious
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/3c3b08e7558308dbbda48eca2be65ca2/tumblr_ogyvuyWKat1qkc6bso1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 13 Apr 2017, 00:30
I know there was a joke in today's comic and some insight into cooperation but all I can think about is floof.

Flooooooooooof. @.@
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 13 Apr 2017, 02:20
Claire's hair tried to strangle Marten in his sleep, so she cut it off.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 13 Apr 2017, 03:59
I know that this might sound odd but the thing is... I can't help but wonder just how often Claire ends up reading 'interesting-seeming' books rather than stacking them. I mean, it isn't wrong but maybe she needs to work on her focus a little.

It's almost as if people who are enthusiastic about working in a library might be interested in books ... Weirdos.

If you came across an interesting sounding old book, like say 'Nature Cure' (1930s) or 'How to Never Be Tired' (1945), wouldn't you read it too?

(http://i.imgur.com/9VkHsdC.png)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2017, 04:27
I... Claire.... floof... what....

sorry... to much to process... I think I need a lie down.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: blt on 13 Apr 2017, 06:18
I know that Jeph is into the back of women's necks in a big way

...What?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TinPenguin on 13 Apr 2017, 06:22
Weird, everyone knows the carotid arteries are in the front of the neck...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Apr 2017, 06:45
I know that Jeph is into the back of women's necks in a big way

...What?

A long time ago Jeph said (it was either on Tumblr or Twitter) that he didn't like drawing female characters with long hair because he 'likes the back of their necks'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: brasca on 13 Apr 2017, 07:13
I know that this might sound odd but the thing is... I can't help but wonder just how often Claire ends up reading 'interesting-seeming' books rather than stacking them. I mean, it isn't wrong but maybe she needs to work on her focus a little. That said, this is clearly something Jeph wants to add to the character of Claire - She might suddenly expositing on some random subject because she read the book and there's no telling in advance what subject she might have book knowledge on. This could turn out to be useful but it might also turn out to be annoying, depending on the context.

So... yeah. Not a great fan of Claire's new look. I know that Jeph is into the back of women's necks in a big way but that's what Claire's ponytail was all about. No, sorry, Jeph; it's not working for her.

It doesn't help that the length of Claire's hair changes noticeably between panels 1 and 3 making me think that it is some kind of mutant growth that changes length depending on her mood. Can she grab things with it?

Considering her boss' antics at work I seriously doubt that reading on the job is the worst thing Claire could be doing at work. 

And as for Claire's new look it might be warming up in Northampton so she wanted something cooler for the season. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Apr 2017, 08:38
Claire's hair tried to strangle Marten in his sleep, so she cut it off.

Having woken up more than once in the middle of the night with a mouth full of hair from a sleeping partner, I can say that this is every guy's secret fear regarding floofy hair.

"How did he die?"
"They were spooning, she leaned back into him and "whoooomph", mouthful of hair. He didn't stand a chance."
"Damn it, that's the sixteenth one this week."
"When will people learn, long hair kills."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 13 Apr 2017, 12:44
Claire's hair tried to strangle Marten in his sleep, so she cut it off.

Having woken up more than once in the middle of the night with a mouth full of hair from a sleeping partner, I can say that this is every guy's secret fear regarding floofy hair.

(http://i.imgur.com/OiR3ujj.jpg?1)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Endellion on 13 Apr 2017, 15:00
I have only one thing to say about Claire's new haircut

Nooooooooooo! (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 13 Apr 2017, 15:35
Where's the pun? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering pun.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Apr 2017, 15:37
Unless she's like the Biblical Samson and her punage was connected to the length of her hair...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 13 Apr 2017, 15:43
Where's the pun?

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2017, 16:10


Claire suingin' that Little Orphan Annie look right there.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Apr 2017, 20:14
That was cute.  :laugh:

Will we be getting a Friday strip, as it's a holiday?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Apr 2017, 20:30
....That is the Friday strip....

And I'm not too sure about this, but I don't think Good Friday is a public holiday. And Easter Sunday doesn't count as a public holiday because, obviously, its always on a Sunday. But also, Good Friday isn't typically a day that's taken off in the Anglosphere world.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 13 Apr 2017, 20:45
It's a public holiday here in Oz, FWIW.  8-)

Also FWIW, I am not a fan of her new hairstyle. I liked the old one a lot more.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2017, 21:41
Friday here as well.

A store that has everything, how convenient.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Welu on 13 Apr 2017, 21:41
I could go for a haircut, tattoo, seafood and plastic surgery combo deal right now. Supersized, please.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: miados on 13 Apr 2017, 22:18
oh no her hair! it was innocent! now it just lives on this wolf.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Apr 2017, 01:18
So, not only is there what is possibly the world's the single weirdest possible combination business in QC-verse Northampton, it's run by Jeph's SO. I wonder what this tells us about Karla that she'd honestly combine body modification with Japanese seafood and daycare? :wink:

Oh, and as no-one else has noticed, Pintsize has had his head caved in. Again. Either he was being himself somewhere or Bubbles punched him on the way out (possibly because he made a crack about "lovers' tiff").
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: JimC on 14 Apr 2017, 02:33
It's a public holiday here in Oz, FWIW. 
And in the UK.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Tova on 14 Apr 2017, 03:04
At this point, it would perhaps be more remarkable if Pintsize's head were intact.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Apr 2017, 03:35
....That is the Friday strip....

And I'm not too sure about this, but I don't think Good Friday is a public holiday. And Easter Sunday doesn't count as a public holiday because, obviously, its always on a Sunday. But also, Good Friday isn't typically a day that's taken off in the Anglosphere world.

Jeph, being a self-employed private citizen, can take off - or not take off - any holiday he chooses. I don't think he celebrates Easter so I don't see why he'd take off Good Friday.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 14 Apr 2017, 04:12
I know there was a joke in today's comic and some insight into cooperation but all I can think about is floof.

Flooooooooooof. @.@

"Readings are off the scale, Captain... we have not encountered these levels of floof before!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: DSL on 14 Apr 2017, 04:15
I could go for a haircut, tattoo, seafood and plastic surgery combo deal right now. Supersized, please.

OK, but if they offer to do a seaweed wrap, run.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: brasca on 14 Apr 2017, 07:21
Yet another long-haired character chops it all off.
Nooooo. Claire does look super cute but I'm always a little bummed when Jeph gives a long-haired character a haircut.

Jeph is aware. From Twitter:
https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/850135361913315333

If Jeph has declared war on long hair I wonder if Marigold will appear sporting a new do.  It's been awhile since we've seen her. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: WareWolf on 14 Apr 2017, 11:15
It's a public holiday here in Oz, FWIW. 
And in the UK.

And in North Carolina, although some places (like the state owned liquor stores) are closed Easter Monday. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Apr 2017, 11:57
UK also has Easter Monday as well as Good Friday.  BTW, originally Good Friday and Christmas day were holidays here not by statute but in common law, having been observed since before records began.

Although banks are closed on bank holidays (though that's not true in all cases in Scotland), the holidays are not otherwise enforced.  Most employers give them as paid days off (they may count them as part of your holiday allowance or not, but the number is adjusted accordingly so it makes no odds), but xx/7 jobs (e.g. broadcasting, many shops) may make no special allowance.

In the UK we have the curiosity that Easter Sunday is the one day in the year when shops over a certain size are forbidden by law to open - that's one of the very few direct effects of some people's religious observance that is enshrined in law here.  That and restricted hours for the same shops (max six hours between 10am and 6pm) made up the compromise which enabled Sunday shopping to be allowed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Apr 2017, 12:08
UK also has Easter Monday as well as Good Friday.

Although banks are closed on bank holidays (though that's not true in all cases in Scotland), the holidays are not otherwise enforced.  Most employers give them as paid days off (they may count them as part of your holiday allowance or not, but the number is adjusted accordingly so it makes no odds), but xx/7 jobs (broadcasting, many shops) may make no special allowance.


Pretty much the same in Ireland. Good Friday isn't a public holiday here. Most businesses remain open for the day, though many close from 3pm to 4pm for services or close earlier and all schools will close. But under Irish law, alcohol cannot be purchased on Good Friday, so in supermarkets, the sections are closed off. Bars and pubs typically close for the day, while restaurants only offer food services. The exception to this would be people who are travelling by train, ferry or through airports or staying in a hotel (this isn't religious, its dates back to the Irish constitution when travel was more involved and so an allowance was made for people making long journeys).

However the Monday after Easter is a public holiday and a bank holiday.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 Apr 2017, 12:52
In the UK we have the curiosity that Easter Sunday is the one day in the year when shops over a certain size are forbidden by law to open - that's one of the very few direct effects of some people's religious observance that is enshrined in law here.  That and restricted hours for the same shops (max six hours between 10am and 6pm) made up the compromise which enabled Sunday shopping to be allowed.

There is a story that a certain chain of department stores tried to open on Sundays because they sold bras, and those are 'surgical supports'. I don't know if it's true, but from the stories my grandfather tells about his dealings with the owner when he worked in the local planning office I can certainly believe it possible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Apr 2017, 15:52
Actually,I have a friend who has her own Hairdressing Salon that has a Tattoo Parlor as well - she's also a bit of an amateur artist and occasionally sells the odd work..
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 14 Apr 2017, 20:17
When bad decisions come home to roost...

(gotta go now. making signs for the 'Make Trump Sorry He Got Up This Morning' rally)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Endellion on 15 Apr 2017, 03:59
Sigh. Look, Marten, if you learned ANYTHING from your last serious relationship it would be that your partner has complete control over your hairstyle and any changes will have to be checked and double checked beforehand.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 15 Apr 2017, 04:04
Sigh. Look, Marten, if you learned ANYTHING from your last serious relationship it would be that your partner has complete control over your hairstyle and any changes will have to be checked and double checked beforehand.
And Claire, as his partner, is exercising that control. Which s why he asked. I'm not sure what you're trying to say?


;)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Endellion on 15 Apr 2017, 04:40
Sigh. Look, Marten, if you learned ANYTHING from your last serious relationship it would be that your partner has complete control over your hairstyle and any changes will have to be checked and double checked beforehand.
And Claire, as his partner, is exercising that control. Which s why he asked. I'm not sure what you're trying to say?

An (attempted) joke isn't funny if it has to be explained. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=857)

Also I talk at least 95% in sarcasm.

Edit: The first half of Jeph's comment to that strip is spookily similar to the reaction for the latest hair-calypse
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Akima on 15 Apr 2017, 05:46
And I'm not too sure about this, but I don't think Good Friday is a public holiday. And Easter Sunday doesn't count as a public holiday because, obviously, its always on a Sunday. But also, Good Friday isn't typically a day that's taken off in the Anglosphere world.
Good Friday is, as Tova pointed out, a public holiday in Australia, and so is Easter Monday. In NSW there are three and a half days a year when you will find nearly all shops closed: Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Christmas Day, and ANZAC Day before 1pm. Otherwise, you can shop seven days a week in all the big retailers.

I'm not quite certain about Claire's new hairstyle. Perhaps it will... grow on me?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 15 Apr 2017, 09:03
I'm not quite certain about Claire's new hairstyle. Perhaps it will... grow on me?  :claireface:

Like ... fungus?

(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-02-24-HaroldRamis.png)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 15 Apr 2017, 12:42
Sigh. Look, Marten, if you learned ANYTHING from your last serious relationship it would be that your partner has complete control over your hairstyle and any changes will have to be checked and double checked beforehand.
And Claire, as his partner, is exercising that control. Which s why he asked. I'm not sure what you're trying to say?

An (attempted) joke isn't funny if it has to be explained. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=857)

Also I talk at least 95% in sarcasm.
Pay no attention to that smiley behind the curtain.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Apr 2017, 15:07
How has no one brought up that this combo business also has a daycare?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Apr 2017, 17:32
"They're just spray on tattoos! Really!"

"MY BABY!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: DSL on 15 Apr 2017, 18:19
"They're just spray on tattoos! Really!"

"MY BABY!"

"Are you sure that's your baby? The nose and chin look different ... Under the bandages, I mean."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 15 Apr 2017, 18:28
How has no one brought up that this combo business also has a daycare?

Lady, I swear your toddler already had the forward helix, the rook, the helix, the industrial, the snug, the orbital, the outer conch, the upper lobe, the standard lobe, the transverse lobe, the anti-tragus, the inner conch, the tragus and the dalth piercings.

All I did was put a little glitter around their cheeks and drew a little kitty on their forehead.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 15 Apr 2017, 22:46
Okay, at the raw seafood bar, I can't stress this enough: stay away from the fugu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 16 Apr 2017, 00:00
The toxin wouldn't be affected by cooking in any event.  I don't know about the US, but that stuff is pretty tightly regulated in Japan.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 16 Apr 2017, 03:36
Okay, at the raw seafood bar, I can't stress this enough: stay away from the fugu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu).

47 begs to differ ...

(http://guides.gamepressure.com/hitman/gfx/word/520617066.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Apr 2017, 05:50
Because it is remotely safe to buy food from Mr 'rat poison in the cocktail' Forty-Seven! :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Apr 2017, 08:04
Happy Easter!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Apr 2017, 08:32
Okay, at the raw seafood bar, I can't stress this enough: stay away from the fugu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu).

47 begs to differ ...


In which case, they're fugone.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Case on 16 Apr 2017, 11:27
Okay, at the raw seafood bar, I can't stress this enough: stay away from the fugu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu).

47 begs to differ ...


In which case, they're fugone.

I see what you did there ...  :mrgreen:

Better to let fugones be fugones.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Storel on 16 Apr 2017, 15:43
The toxin wouldn't be affected by cooking in any event.  I don't know about the US, but that stuff is pretty tightly regulated in Japan.

Yes, fugu is commonly served as sashimi, which is raw. My point was that while it would normally be reasonably safe to consume fugu at any place that's allowed to serve it, doing so at an establishment which has "Bad Decisions" in its very name is almost certainly a very bad decision.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Sullivan on 16 Apr 2017, 18:13
So, not only is there what is possibly the world's the single weirdest possible combination business in QC-verse Northampton, it's run by Jeph's SO. I wonder what this tells us about Karla that she'd honestly combine body modification with Japanese seafood and daycare? :wink:

Oh, and as no-one else has noticed, Pintsize has had his head caved in. Again. Either he was being himself somewhere or Bubbles punched him on the way out (possibly because he made a crack about "lovers' tiff").
I just noticed it now! Poor Pintsize.

I have the black hoodie with the white outline drawing of Pintsize.

Now I want also to have the same hoodie with Pintsize's head caved in. :)

(It's not exactly an uncommon occurrence, after all.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3456-3460 (10th to 14th April 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 17 Apr 2017, 18:26
Good decisions come from experience.
Experience comes from bad decisions.