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Title: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: comicalArchitect on 03 Sep 2017, 11:39
NOTE: This doesn't necessarily mean romantic relationships. Just character dynamics that you would like to see explored more.

I would love another Marten & Sam storyline. They might be step-siblings soon, so they should get to know each other better, plus it's always fun seeing Marten thrust into the role of responsible authority figure. I would also like to see what Wil and Penelope have been up to, but really any Wil would be nice at this point.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: BenRG on 03 Sep 2017, 11:41
Completely off the top of my head: Roko Basalisk and Hannelore.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Kugai on 03 Sep 2017, 13:53
Winslow/Momo
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Sep 2017, 14:19
Still waiting for a Basilisk/Spookybot buddy cop arc. But I'm not holding my breath.  :wink:
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Sep 2017, 17:15
Steve and Cossette.  No one knows they got married and didn't think to tell anyone.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Sep 2017, 17:15
Sam and Marigold, let's see a let's play.

It'd be interesting to see Brun meet Momo and Marigold, too.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Sep 2017, 18:25
Bubbles mentoring Winslow.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Welu on 03 Sep 2017, 18:31
I'd like to see more of Sven in general but mainly his friendship with Hannelore seemed interesting. Him and Dale might have a fun dynamic too.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Sep 2017, 20:56
Marten and Claire have yet to come to a crisis about their relative levels of ambition.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 03 Sep 2017, 21:08
Wil and Penelope.  But knowing the way the comic has gone if someone does come back from limbo it will be a big surprise for everyone.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: comicalArchitect on 03 Sep 2017, 23:37
Marten and Claire have yet to come to a crisis about their relative levels of ambition.

I mean, I don't think that's the real difference. Marten wants to be a famous musician; Claire just wants to be a librarian. The issue is that Claire is actually pursuing her goals and Marten is stagnating.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Tova on 03 Sep 2017, 23:54
I don't think that having identical or even similar levels of ambition is a necessary ingredient of a successful relationship.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Sep 2017, 00:01
Seeing them succeed in spite of it would be an interesting story line.

I wonder how Jim and Veronica are getting along.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Cornelius on 04 Sep 2017, 02:51
Jim and Veronica, and Marten and Sam, definitely.

 I'm also wondering how long it will take Sam to discover Union Robotics.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: NemesisDancer on 04 Sep 2017, 03:05
I agree regarding Penelope and Wil (and Wil in general, as he's a fun character to read about). I enjoyed reading about Claire and Emily's gradual shift from "Why are you not taking anything seriously?" to "Actually you're really nice and we should be friends" so it'd be sweet to see them interacting more again.


As for individual characters I'd like to see more of, I miss Raven and Jimbo (I think the comedic characters tend to be my favourite!)

Also been increasingly wondering what would happen if one of the characters were to inadvertently see Angus on his TV show.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 Sep 2017, 09:57
Difference in ambition can break up relationships though. Faye and Angus, for one. If Marten was really serious about being a big famous musician it could well become and issue, or it might not. Depending on how they could handle long distance relationships. But Marten has never had the drive for that. I'm sure he'd think it's great if someone heard his band, if they even practice, and signed them up... But honestly it's just idle dreams and messing around in a practice room. Marten is actually pretty chill with being just the guy around town finding work he likes. Claire is driven by her desire to become a librarian, and that may require her to move at some point. But I would totally see Marten moving with her if they were still together at that point.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Oenone on 04 Sep 2017, 10:39
I really want to see how Brun and Renee became friends
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: JimC on 04 Sep 2017, 11:19
I'm also wondering how long it will take Sam to discover Union Robotics.
Many a career in the m/cycle trade for one has started off by being the kid who hangs round the place and does odd jobs.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Sep 2017, 12:30
Marten and his mom have a nuanced relationship and they're in the same town now. I wonder how that's going.

Maybe Sam is using up all of Veronica's mothering energy.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 Sep 2017, 14:15
I don't think that having identical or even similar levels of ambition is a necessary ingredient of a successful relationship.
Indeed. It can even massively hinder a relationship when ambitions pull the people involved in different directions. Or when people in the same field see their other halves as advancing ahead of themselves.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: blt on 04 Sep 2017, 15:24
A perfect example of your first point being Faye and Angus.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Sep 2017, 16:24
Ahah!
How about a couples' retreat/camping arc? Marten and Claire, Penelope and Wil, Steve and Cossette, Marigold and Dale, all along with Veronica and Jim..
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Sep 2017, 16:33
Hmmm..... Who all would Lt. Potter interact with if she visited North Hampton the next time she got 'shore leave' from Station?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Sep 2017, 19:11
Elliott is the only one who's her type.

She might be curious enough about "The Doc's daughter" to socialize with Hannelore.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 04 Sep 2017, 19:49
If I'm not mistaken, Brun will be barbacking for Wil.  This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: comicalArchitect on 04 Sep 2017, 21:12
If I'm not mistaken, Brun will be barbacking for Wil.  This should be interesting.

No, Wil's not a bartender. He busses tables.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Sep 2017, 23:39
I've got a mental picture of him behind the bar but am not at all sure about that. Archive masters?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Penquin47 on 05 Sep 2017, 00:01
I've got a mental picture of him behind the bar but am not at all sure about that. Archive masters?

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1864
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 05 Sep 2017, 02:41
How about more of Elliot and Bubbles interacting?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: NemesisDancer on 05 Sep 2017, 07:52
How about more of Elliot and Bubbles interacting?

And add Tai to the mix as well so she can climb both of them! :3

I'd quite like to see some interactions between Claire and Marigold as well (considering their shared interest in fanfiction). Getting more into writing about fictional characters might be a healthier avenue through which Claire can pursue her love of shipping/matchmaking, rather than trying to matchmake her friends.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Mr_Rose on 05 Sep 2017, 11:51
She can write horribly contrived shipfics about the forums (in comicland, the readers are the comics)…
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Storel on 05 Sep 2017, 12:29
If I'm not mistaken, Brun will be barbacking for Wil.  This should be interesting.

No, Wil's not a bartender. He busses tables.

Hmm, perhaps he was the bar-back who's being replaced by Brun! Which raises the question of why he quit and where he went.

Hmm, perhaps he simply got promoted to bartender so they need a new bar-back.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Tlaloc on 05 Sep 2017, 13:47
Pintsize - Marten.

I'm a purist.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: bhtooefr on 05 Sep 2017, 14:09
VespaVenger/Harley guy.

(OK, I don't actually want to see that.)
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Sep 2017, 21:34
Every interaction Bubbles has is going to be fascinating.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 06 Sep 2017, 19:28
I've got a mental picture of him behind the bar but am not at all sure about that. Archive masters?
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1864
That's the strip I'm remembering.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: traroth on 24 Oct 2017, 02:51
Bubbles mentoring Winslow.

...in bodybuilding. Or kickboxing. Or shooting.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2017, 02:55
Bubbles mentoring Winslow.

...in bodybuilding. Or kickboxing. Or shooting.

In assertiveness. :laugh:

Quote
You answer to nobody! You are a lion! A tiger! ROAR!
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Technoir on 24 Oct 2017, 05:08
I'm also wondering how long it will take Sam to discover Union Robotics.
Many a career in the m/cycle trade for one has started off by being the kid who hangs round the place and does odd jobs.

Indeed. I cut my teeth in the metalworking hobby by working a summer as a shop gofer for a metal heat-treating business that my bro was working at.  I started out sweeping up, sitting in the front office waiting for packages and whatnot, by the end of the summer i was doing the post-treatment Rockwell testing, anodizing and annealing, dunking aircraft landing gear bearings/bushings into molten salt baths, and using a forklift to move large pieces in and out of the blast furnace.   I ended up going into I.T., but all that stuff i learned at 15 has come in handy in my hobby/craft of making jewellery out of different stuff (mainly rings made from coins).   

so, yeah, TL/DR version: yes, there is a ton of inspiration and education that can be had just by being the "kid hanging around the shop helping out".
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: traroth on 26 Oct 2017, 05:58
Nobody said it yet, so I gonna do:

BUBBLES AND FAYE!!!
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: JoeCovenant on 26 Oct 2017, 06:33
Nobody said it yet, so I gonna do:

BUBBLES AND FAYE!!!

I think no-one's said it as the entire strip right now is revolving around them !  :laugh:

Remember the OP...

NOTE: This doesn't necessarily mean romantic relationships. Just character dynamics that you would like to see explored more.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Oct 2017, 09:08
Obviously, I want to see more Tai and Dora, but then there's a dearth of queer f/f couples in media.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: hedgie on 26 Oct 2017, 12:25
One of the biggest problems I've noticed in the QC verse is that happy couples tend to fade into the background, whether it be Dora and Tai, Pen-Pen and Wil, Steve and Cosette, or Claire and Marten.  We also haven't seen Dale and Marigold in some time either.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Dave H on 26 Oct 2017, 12:50
Happy couples don't have much drama unless they're in conflict with an outside force. (Remember man vs. man, man vs. nature, and man vs. himself from English class? An interesting story needs conflict.) Like Faye and Bubbles vs. Corpse Witch - they got along very well, but they had a common foe.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 26 Oct 2017, 15:11
Happy couples don't have much drama unless they're in conflict with an outside force. (Remember man vs. man, man vs. nature, and man vs. himself from English class? An interesting story needs conflict.) Like Faye and Bubbles vs. Corpse Witch - they got along very well, but they had a common foe.
Exactly.  Stability and mature behavior make for dull reading (or viewing).
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 27 Oct 2017, 05:54
One of the biggest problems I've noticed in the QC verse is that happy couples tend to fade into the background, whether it be Dora and Tai, Pen-Pen and Wil, Steve and Cosette, or Claire and Marten.  We also haven't seen Dale and Marigold in some time either.

Because of this, I imagine very soon Jeph will introduce a new conflict, whatever form that may take (not necessarily between some of the main characters, I can also imagine some kind of 'foe'). Likely something related to the feelings Bubbles and Faye have for one another that may go further in one of them then in the other.

For Marten, it would be interesting to see him make a serious switch to a different career, or maybe do a story line about his band performing and maybe having some success(?). 
Don't expect much in the way of storylines for Will, Steve, Dora, Marigold, or even Veronica and their relationships. It's pretty much Faye/Bubbles central now for the most part.

The return of Angus would be interesting, especially bringing along tensions with Bubbles.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Dave H on 27 Oct 2017, 06:29
The return of Angus would be interesting, especially bringing along tensions with Bubbles.

Yeah, lots of potential there. She'd finally get to beat someone up (figuratively - or not; this is Faye after all) for leaving her. Could be cathartic, or it could be a nuclear meltdown. And of course if Angus returns it'll be because he struck out at his new job and his confidence will already be shot to heck.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2017, 02:29
I would like to see more of the Brun-Elliott-Clinton triangle. Seriously, it could lead to both comedy and interesting character development. An obvious possibility is that Brun could date both Elliott and Clinton and make it clear to both that, at this time, she is not interested in an exclusive relationship. Both men are her friends and she wishes to spend personal time with them in a more formal manner on occasion.

There is nothing particularly unusual or 'transgressive' about this. However, given that Elliott also finds Clinton attractive, it might be interesting to see how he reacts to this particular social pressure.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 30 Oct 2017, 07:19
The return of Angus would be interesting, especially bringing along tensions with Bubbles.

Yeah, lots of potential there. She'd finally get to beat someone up (figuratively - or not; this is Faye after all) for leaving her. Could be cathartic, or it could be a nuclear meltdown. And of course if Angus returns it'll be because he struck out at his new job and his confidence will already be shot to heck.

Why would that be? I mean, he presumably has lived in Northampton for quite a while, so I don't see why he wouldn't return at least to visit friends in town. Or did you mean he he moves back permanently? The latter is indeed difficult to imagine, but even if that happens it doesn't have to mean at all that he flamed out in his jb.

Not sure about Faye 'beating up' on Angus either, he actually didn't do anything wrong. If they run into one another, it'll most likely end with Faye apologizing to him for not being able to be honest/try to work out a solution.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Dave H on 30 Oct 2017, 08:34
I agree Angus didn't do anything wrong, but Faye could still feel like he abandoned her. She may even admit it's not right for her to do so, but emotions don't always yield to logic.

I may hve jumped to a conclusion too quickly though. When I read the remark about "the return of Angus" I assumed it meant he'd be moving back to Northampton. Returning to visit is a more likely scenario.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 30 Oct 2017, 12:11
I agree Angus didn't do anything wrong, but Faye could still feel like he abandoned her. She may even admit it's not right for her to do so, but emotions don't always yield to logic.

I may hve jumped to a conclusion too quickly though. When I read the remark about "the return of Angus" I assumed it meant he'd be moving back to Northampton. Returning to visit is a more likely scenario.

Frankly, it wouldn't be that strange to have Angus pay a visit to Marigold as her former roommate. Of course, their relationship could very well have pretty much ended immediately after he moved away, as often happens with roommate/classmate-type convenience friendships.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 01 Nov 2017, 07:48
I would also be interested in seeing officer Roko establish some kind of friendship with Bubbles. Considering Bubbles' military past and Roko being in law enforcement, I could imagine they may find common ground. 
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 13 Nov 2017, 01:36
Beatrice and Hannelore

Let's have some mother-daughter bonding up in here
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Mr_Rose on 13 Nov 2017, 07:51
And by “bonding” we mean “conspiring to permanently affix the other somewhere where they will be safe/out of the way”
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 15 Nov 2017, 21:35
Good heavens no, what kind of twisted definition is that

I mean "conspiring to rule the galaxy post-Singularity America as mother and daughter"
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: gopher on 16 Nov 2017, 01:59
All these ideas just emphasise who dull Hanners and the Betas is as a plot.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: traroth on 16 Nov 2017, 07:15
Momo and Sven. I really would like to know how this:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658

could turn out!
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: TheBiscuit on 16 Nov 2017, 20:23
I'd like to see Angus again. It'd be interesting to see him run into Faye and Renee at the same time haha.
Honestly, I'd like to see him outside of the context of his former relationship with Faye. At least at first, I think that would be nice. Eventually the two of them would meet, but if Angus was going to come back I'd appreciate the opportunity to see him more developed as a character in his own right.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Welu on 19 Nov 2017, 00:35
Angus left because he got a TV job. Would it be too coincidental for one of the characters to be skipping channels and see his show? The modern version might be seeing his face in a YouTube thumbnail.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 20 Nov 2017, 12:50
I'd like to see Angus again. It'd be interesting to see him run into Faye and Renee at the same time haha.
Honestly, I'd like to see him outside of the context of his former relationship with Faye. At least at first, I think that would be nice. Eventually the two of them would meet, but if Angus was going to come back I'd appreciate the opportunity to see him more developed as a character in his own right.

That would be interesting, yes.

In the context of his relationship with Faye, I would actually prefer to see Faye go to NYC to seek closure with Angus (w/ or w/o Bubbles in tow as support). JJ however, has always seemed to be pretty reluctant about having his characters anywhere but in Northampton. The only instances outside MA that I recall (besides the space station) are Faye at her mom's home, and Marten's dad's wedding in Vermont. Maybe Dora's parents' home (unsure where that was)?

I guess I wouldn't mind seeing some characters outside of their typical comfort environments. 
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 20 Nov 2017, 13:07
The only instances outside MA that I recall (besides the space station) are Faye at her mom's home, and Marten's dad's wedding in Vermont. Maybe Dora's parents' home (unsure where that was)?
The party at the house by the lake?  IIRC that was Emily's parents' place.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Nov 2017, 13:23
The lake house seemed to be not too far of a drive from Northampton, so probably still in Massachusetts. Ditto Dora’s parents - it’s not clear that they are in Northampton but seem to be in the nearby area.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 20 Nov 2017, 14:11
The lake house seemed to be not too far of a drive from Northampton, so probably still in Massachusetts. Ditto Dora’s parents - it’s not clear that they are in Northampton but seem to be in the nearby area.
New England and the Left Coast have very different ideas of distance.  The lake house could easily be in New Hampshire or even Vermont and I'd still call it "not too far."
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: TheBiscuit on 20 Nov 2017, 20:29
I'd like to see Angus again. It'd be interesting to see him run into Faye and Renee at the same time haha.
Honestly, I'd like to see him outside of the context of his former relationship with Faye. At least at first, I think that would be nice. Eventually the two of them would meet, but if Angus was going to come back I'd appreciate the opportunity to see him more developed as a character in his own right.

That would be interesting, yes.

In the context of his relationship with Faye, I would actually prefer to see Faye go to NYC to seek closure with Angus (w/ or w/o Bubbles in tow as support). JJ however, has always seemed to be pretty reluctant about having his characters anywhere but in Northampton. The only instances outside MA that I recall (besides the space station) are Faye at her mom's home, and Marten's dad's wedding in Vermont. Maybe Dora's parents' home (unsure where that was)?

I guess I wouldn't mind seeing some characters outside of their typical comfort environments.

Seeing Faye and Angus get closure would be very interesting, especially with Bubbles. But then again besides Angus moving and Faye not being supportive, they had no problems so I mean ... they might get back together if she came back?
It could happen, but Faye has gone through a lot of changes since then.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 21 Nov 2017, 07:13
I'd like to see Angus again. It'd be interesting to see him run into Faye and Renee at the same time haha.
Honestly, I'd like to see him outside of the context of his former relationship with Faye. At least at first, I think that would be nice. Eventually the two of them would meet, but if Angus was going to come back I'd appreciate the opportunity to see him more developed as a character in his own right.

That would be interesting, yes.

In the context of his relationship with Faye, I would actually prefer to see Faye go to NYC to seek closure with Angus (w/ or w/o Bubbles in tow as support). JJ however, has always seemed to be pretty reluctant about having his characters anywhere but in Northampton. The only instances outside MA that I recall (besides the space station) are Faye at her mom's home, and Marten's dad's wedding in Vermont. Maybe Dora's parents' home (unsure where that was)?

I guess I wouldn't mind seeing some characters outside of their typical comfort environments.

Seeing Faye and Angus get closure would be very interesting, especially with Bubbles. But then again besides Angus moving and Faye not being supportive, they had no problems so I mean ... they might get back together if she came back?

Getting back together seems doubtful, even if Angus somehow ended up back in Northampton. Too much has happened and changed, especially in Faye's life, while Angus would still know that his career ambitions and goals do not align with Faye's ambition to stay put.

I actually always found it odd that Angus was either not informed or did not  reach out after Faye's hospital/alcohol incident. That was pretty soon after they broke up and I'd assumed somebody would've informed him of what happened. Considering he loved her and the breakup was reluctant, I'd have expected him to stop by or at least reach out.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 25 Nov 2017, 17:16
The lake house seemed to be not too far of a drive from Northampton, so probably still in Massachusetts. Ditto Dora’s parents - it’s not clear that they are in Northampton but seem to be in the nearby area.
New England and the Left Coast have very different ideas of distance.  The lake house could easily be in New Hampshire or even Vermont and I'd still call it "not too far."
Well, the original 13 colonies are tiny compared to the Midwest and Western states. Though, they make nice points of comparison when discussing the size of European countries.

If I'm not mistaken, there's a few counties out west that are the same size as Rhode Island.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 25 Nov 2017, 19:19
The lake house seemed to be not too far of a drive from Northampton, so probably still in Massachusetts. Ditto Dora’s parents - it’s not clear that they are in Northampton but seem to be in the nearby area.
New England and the Left Coast have very different ideas of distance.  The lake house could easily be in New Hampshire or even Vermont and I'd still call it "not too far."
Well, the original 13 colonies are tiny compared to the Midwest and Western states. Though, they make nice points of comparison when discussing the size of European countries.

If I'm not mistaken, there's a few counties out west that are the same size as Rhode Island.
That was the first thing I noticed driving back there.  The second thing I noticed is that when the yellow sign approaching a curve says "25 MPH" they damn well mean it.  Out here if it's posted 25 you can take it at 40 no problem.  Not the case in Connecticut, nosiree!  I only needed that demonstration once.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Nov 2017, 19:29
In the Midwest most roads are perfectly straight. In the former colonies, the roads were designed while drunk.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Penquin47 on 25 Nov 2017, 23:15

Well, the original 13 colonies are tiny compared to the Midwest and Western states. Though, they make nice points of comparison when discussing the size of European countries.

If I'm not mistaken, there's a few counties out west that are the same size as Rhode Island.

Brewster County, Texas: 6192 square miles.
Rhode Island: 1214 square miles.

Screw "same size", Texas has ten counties that are significantly bigger than Rhode Island. (1500 square miles or more)  One of which, Harris County, is also much more populous (this is Houston).  (4.5 million versus 1 million)
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Nov 2017, 23:46
And that's not even to mention San Bernardino County, California.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 26 Nov 2017, 17:37
Two words, Texas and California - "Alaskan Boroughs."
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: A Duck on 26 Nov 2017, 19:05
I'd like to see more Dora/Tai. They've been more or less on the background for so long I feel like they could have broken up off-screen and we don't know.

While we're at it, just more Dora in general.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zemyla on 30 Nov 2017, 22:10
Here's one we'll probably never see: Gabby/screen time.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: traroth on 01 Dec 2017, 01:01
Here's one we'll probably never see: Gabby/screen time.

Yeah, it's unfair. Claire and Emily became stars, and Gabby disappeared in the background. That's the show business...
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Dec 2017, 17:29
In the Midwest most roads are perfectly straight. In the former colonies, the roads were designed while drunk.

For some variation, try driving through the Flint Hills or any mountainous route.

As for Midwestern areas that were designed while drunk; Oklahoma City has a road that intersects with itself[/]. Then there's the tangled interstate knots in downtown KC and OKC.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: cesium133 on 03 Dec 2017, 06:18
I'm sure you can find exceptions, but the general pattern in the midwest is grids (though I'm curious which road you're talking about in OKC. I lived in Norman for about 8 years.) In the town where I was born, there are multiple 6+-way intersections, including a 7-way intersection with a railroad crossing through the middle of it...

By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: traroth on 08 Dec 2017, 08:28
I also would like to see some development of the Clinton-Brun-Elliott situation. I almost forgot about those...
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: lawoot on 09 Dec 2017, 05:48
By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Gotta have a good infrastructure to build a healthy relationship upon. :D
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Thrudd on 09 Dec 2017, 12:29
By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Gotta have a good infrastructure to build a healthy relationship upon. :D
Before that you need a solid foundation - either bedrock, some deep pile driving or pound things down till everything is rock solid ....  :parrot:
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Storel on 10 Dec 2017, 01:41
By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Gotta have a good infrastructure to build a healthy relationship upon. :D
Before that you need a solid foundation - either bedrock, some deep pile driving or pound things down till everything is rock solid ....  :parrot:

"Deep pile driving", hurr hurr...  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Nepiophage on 10 Dec 2017, 03:39
By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Gotta have a good infrastructure to build a healthy relationship upon. :D
Before that you need a solid foundation - either bedrock, some deep pile driving or pound things down till everything is rock solid ....  :parrot:

"Deep pile driving", hurr hurr...  :clairedoge:

And mutual thrust.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: dutchrvl on 11 Dec 2017, 07:23
By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:
Gotta have a good infrastructure to build a healthy relationship upon. :D
Before that you need a solid foundation - either bedrock, some deep pile driving or pound things down till everything is rock solid ....  :parrot:

"Deep pile driving", hurr hurr...  :clairedoge:

And mutual thrust.

I dunno, I usually go back and forth with that.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Voran on 20 Dec 2017, 11:49
I'd actually like to see some consequences of relationships play out.  I've found it odd that these people can have terrible relationships because of personal issues and then they break up, and then they jump back into another relationship.

With the 'comic strip timelapse' we have to remember in alot of these cases its been mere weeks since their last relationship burned, but in real time that takes months, so we start doing things like, "Faye and Bubbles!" but really Faye should be the last person jumping into a relationship cause she should still be dealing with her stuff from the last one.  Or Dora, whole storyline about how she was kinda sabotagey in her relationships, but now with Tai everything seems fine and none of her old traits are popping up. 

In terms of chars I'd like to see again, heh I almost feel like the coffeshop is getting pushed out.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Welu on 20 Dec 2017, 13:13
There's actually been two significant timeskips since Dora and Marten's break up. 1855 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1855) / 1856 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1856) as shown by Hanner's hair and then Faye's in the next strip after. This was before Dora and Tai got together.

Then 3136 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3136) which shows Faye's hair go from super short to almost shoulder length after breaking up with Angus.

We can speculate on specific times but that type of hair growth takes months. The first time skip I would guess is much shorter compared to the second one though.

Different relationships have different pitfalls, and we haven't seen as much of Dora and Tai's relationship as Dora and Marten's relationship. That said we have seen Dora get insecure (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2577) and snappy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2909) with Tai.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: A small perverse otter on 20 Dec 2017, 15:32
Happy couples don't have much drama unless they're in conflict with an outside force. (Remember man vs. man, man vs. nature, and man vs. himself from English class? An interesting story needs conflict.) Like Faye and Bubbles vs. Corpse Witch - they got along very well, but they had a common foe.
Exactly.  Stability and mature behavior make for dull reading (or viewing).
"All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." -- L. Tolstoy
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Dec 2017, 20:31


Different relationships have different pitfalls, and we haven't seen as much of Dora and Tai's relationship as Dora and Marten's relationship. That said we have seen Dora get insecure (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2577) and snappy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2909) with Tai.

We've also seen that, unlike Marten, Tai doesn't put up with it. She's more likely to call Dora out on it before the pressure builds to the breaking point
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: BenRG on 21 Dec 2017, 02:13
Different relationships have different pitfalls, and we haven't seen as much of Dora and Tai's relationship as Dora and Marten's relationship. That said we have seen Dora get insecure (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2577) and snappy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2909) with Tai.

We've also seen that, unlike Marten, Tai doesn't put up with it. She's more likely to call Dora out on it before the pressure builds to the breaking point

FWIW, there have been a few occasions (most notably when Dora had a paranoic episode about trusting someone to act as deputy manager) where I've genuinely thought that Tai was close to breaking up with Dora. It's to Tai's credit that she has kept her patience and tried to work through it.

That's one significant difference in Marten's relationship with Claire. They actually communicate about their disagreements whilst with Dora he had a tendency to just walk away and try to pretend it hadn't happened after the initial conflict died down.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Dec 2017, 19:29
I'm sure you can find exceptions, but the general pattern in the midwest is grids (though I'm curious which road you're talking about in OKC. I lived in Norman for about 8 years.) In the town where I was born, there are multiple 6+-way intersections, including a 7-way intersection with a railroad crossing through the middle of it...

By the way, how did we end up on the topic of infrastructure in a thread about relationships?  :psyduck:

Downtown OKC around the exit for Hwy 3A from I-44.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Vaygr on 26 Jan 2018, 08:22
I always wanted Marten and Hanners to be a thing, but that's not likely, hah.

All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though. Now Bubbles and Faye are gonna be a thing? Real. But I guess that's because they do nothing for me. I lose out on lots of cute, romantic stuff due to being indifferent about that kind of stuff. I suck.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 08:28
I always wanted Marten and Hanners to be a thing, but that's not likely, hah.

All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though. Now Bubbles and Faye are gonna be a thing? Real. But I guess that's because they do nothing for me. I lose out on lots of cute, romantic stuff due to being indifferent about that kind of stuff. I suck.

So what are you saying? Not to put words into your mouth, but is it that the proposed relationships upcoming in the comic are, or seem to be, all forced to be non-standard, that it makes you less interested?

I think it makes it quite realistic; that they all are. Maybe that's what QC is about. Doesn't seem like it always was. I am fairly unenlightened AFAIK; over here about 1/1000 relationships are non-heterosexual.

Seems like in US its more like 50/50 or more?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jan 2018, 09:20
over here about 1/1000 relationships are non-heterosexual.

You're in the UK, like me, right?

Around 1.5% (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2013/oct/03/gay-britain-what-do-statistics-say) (as recorded several years ago), so you're well over an order of magnitude out.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jan 2018, 09:29
All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though.

In fourteen years of the comic, we have one gay relationship in the main cast (Dora/Tai), plus two in peripheral characters (Marten's dad, Faye's sister); and of those, we see little of Dora and Tai at present.  Plus one (just one) trans character/relationship.  Not a lot to write home about, though the number of relationships in the comic as a whole is small enough to make them seem a high proportion.  In any case, the acceptance and handling of such things happens to be a particular interest of the author; it's why he writes about them, and he does a remarkably good job of handling them.

So, a focus on certain types of people specifically, but not a silly amount; or if you're saying the relationships themselves are silly, you can expect people around here to try to educate you a bit.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 11:09
over here about 1/1000 relationships are non-heterosexual.

You're in the UK, like me, right?

Around 1.5% (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2013/oct/03/gay-britain-what-do-statistics-say) (as recorded several years ago), so you're well over an order of magnitude out.

Indeed, I am in the UK. But all Uks are not same Uks. Lets put aside for a moment the hope (I do hope) that you took my comment as an approximation, maybe even a humorous exaggeration; and not an invitation to a fact-based debate.

Just an aside; I live in Scotland. Scotland is white/pale-blue, empty and racist. Not through choice, just ignorance (in the genuine meaning - we do not know many people from other cultures - and when you hit the highlands and islands, even fewer). We don't see black people here.

Let me retrospec (sic) those last 6 words. In my immediate community, I know zero (no): africans; african-americans; homosexuals; asians; indians; bisexuals; trans-sexuals or any LGBT contingents; none of the subcultures you guys discuss in these forums.

One could even argue that my exposure to the internet and this kind of stuff, has opened my eyes wider.

I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)

Over 25 years ago I remember vividly visiting my (white, middle-class) cousins down in the south of England, and going with them to festivals in towns such as Bedford. We were a very musical lot, I brought my guitar because I played it every day, and they would have found me  surprising liar if I didn't. I would just be expected to 'jam'(rf1)

One of the immediate things I noted was the incredibly high percentage of black people. Now, I'm not saying Scotland is non-black - but at the risk of being obtuse, its mainly pakistani). But being the kind of person I am, and being in the music industry (thus, being chucked into a situation where you need to integrate (*properly, understandably and quickly*) with anybody - the first thing I noted was English (multicultural) musicians shout out very different instructions.

So, suddenly, I was surrounded by my cousins who were immersed in this culture (not by virtue of their upbringing, just, it would not have precluded it; dealing with a bundle of 'human beings who have different slang'. Tis was the biggest lesson I ever got in multi-culturalism. they chucked me into a bundle of guys who were (a) quite scary regardless of deliniature and (b) just quite scary. I suspect as my cousins are  beautiful young women from the area this procedure was easier for them plus

1) I don't deal with African - or Jamaican- British - never met any. And I do business all over the world, but really that means Europe. So I never heard these words before.
2) Suddenly I am in a band of very earnest cunts who really hope I know what the next chord is. Here's a few of the things I got told:

- "small up yasel"; slow down playing, reduce my volume
   -> obviously we've all heard "big up yasel" - time for mah guitar solo; obviously I never got this
- "speak like mouse" - shut the fuck up on your guitar
- "now dwan" "now minor" "now prime" "nwow LAAG" etc

Notably, in a recent British Council programme designed to prepare Jamaican educators to teach English to their country-man, the only country that refused to sign the papers (i.e. never even bothered reading it, fwiw) was Jamaica.



Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Jan 2018, 11:44
I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)

The forum is part of the Internet; you have real-life experience (and so does every other member of the forum, but it's different from yours).  I would respectfully suggest that the forum cannot separate itself from the individual experiences of every one of its members - it's the job of the individual to use their judgement and show respect when interacting with the forum.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: A small perverse otter on 26 Jan 2018, 12:17
I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)

The forum is part of the Internet; you have real-life experience (and so does every other member of the forum, but it's different from yours).  I would respectfully suggest that the forum cannot separate itself from the individual experiences of every one of its members - it's the job of the individual to use their judgement and show respect when interacting with the forum.
This.

Indeed, the US is in no way homogeneous even on very small scales. My home county in the state of Washington is also bigger than Delaware -- and it is quite culturally diverse from west to east: west is urban and suburban Seattle; east is very rural. West is quite liberal; east quite conservative.

Even locally, we're pretty diverse: there are >20 language spoken by students in the nearby high school, all of whom live within ~2 mi of here.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: A small perverse otter on 26 Jan 2018, 12:29
Also, Office Basilisk and *anybody*. I find the whole concept of a law-enforcement AI who sits at home alone knitting, who can't deal with injury, and who got stuck in a garbage can by a massive war-bot so sad; I want to see her happy.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Jan 2018, 16:38
If you don't know any LGBT people, one of two things is likely:

1. You don't know many people.
2. You do know LGBT people, they just don't feel comfortable coming out to you.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: A Duck on 26 Jan 2018, 16:57
I'm a cis hetero dude and I'm pretty sure my social circle, which evolved from high school, is close to QC levels of diverse. I do live in a big city, though, and I can see how even small variations in context can change that a lot.

The people I know from college, for example, are much less diverse. I don't think there's a single one that (at least openly) falls into any sort of LGBT definition. It's just a bunch of white engineer dudes, and some ladies.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Pennepasta on 27 Jan 2018, 00:30
I'm a cis hetero dude and I'm pretty sure my social circle, which evolved from high school, is close to QC levels of diverse. I do live in a big city, though, and I can see how even small variations in context can change that a lot.

The people I know from college, for example, are much less diverse. I don't think there's a single one that (at least openly) falls into any sort of LGBT definition. It's just a bunch of white engineer dudes, and some ladies.

Interesting; from Uni, as a not-the-most-sociable person, I certainly knew at least one gay person, at least one queer person, and someone that I now think is Ace (though, obv. it's none of my flipping business :P). Ignoring MTG's judge stuff - which has a notably higher percentage of non-(cis white male)s due to people wanting representation (also a higher proportion of utter *****, though that's unrelated to their sexuality) - I think I've known one lesbian couple (oh, and a guy who came out as gay, actually,  year or two ago, at which point someone else mentioned they were gay)? Of course, this is coloured by the fact that I have no reason to find out if someone's gay, trans, or whatever, because I'm not out there wanting to get into their bed. Oh, and I can tell via tattoos that a person in one of the pubs locally is... something vaguely gender neutral, though I don't know the person at all. So I guess it's pretty evenly split for me, on reflection, between uni people and these dirty southerners doon 'ere.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: hedgie on 27 Jan 2018, 01:28
Also, Office Basilisk and *anybody*. I find the whole concept of a law-enforcement AI who sits at home alone knitting, who can't deal with injury, and who got stuck in a garbage can by a massive war-bot so sad; I want to see her happy.

While I concur with wanting to see more Roko[1], I must raise one minor quibble.  She seemed less bothered with the injury than with the prospect of seeing her foot removed and tinkered with.  I can personally say that even if bits of me would reattach as easily, I'm *not* one of those people who would look at a missing appendage on the inside and say "ooh, cool".

[1]Shameless Patreon plug: be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Jan 2018, 02:06
I'm *not* one of those people who would look at a missing appendage on the inside and say "ooh, cool".

When they were putting a stent in after my heart attack, I was conscious and watching the X-ray as they guided the catheter into place.  They even asked me to move to make it easier.  I suppose it was rather cool, in its way, though I'd rather not have had the heart attack at all.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Jan 2018, 08:06
Not going to go into details about my first colonoscopy except to say that I was conscious, but sedated enough that watching it on the monitor didn’t freak me out.

I declined to watch my wife’s C-section because I knew I wouldn’t be able to handle it. I was there with her, but above the curtain rather than below it.

So, veering back in the general direction of the topic: I still want to see Roko interact with Spookybot. Ms. Law-and-Order teams up with I-am-above-the-law? Plenty of interesting possibilities there.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Vaygr on 27 Jan 2018, 08:55
I always wanted Marten and Hanners to be a thing, but that's not likely, hah.

All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though. Now Bubbles and Faye are gonna be a thing? Real. But I guess that's because they do nothing for me. I lose out on lots of cute, romantic stuff due to being indifferent about that kind of stuff. I suck.

So what are you saying? Not to put words into your mouth, but is it that the proposed relationships upcoming in the comic are, or seem to be, all forced to be non-standard, that it makes you less interested?

I think it makes it quite realistic; that they all are. Maybe that's what QC is about. Doesn't seem like it always was. I am fairly unenlightened AFAIK; over here about 1/1000 relationships are non-heterosexual.

Seems like in US its more like 50/50 or more?

Oh, uh. It just seems very forced. That basically everyone in their surrounding is non-hetero. It's just silly to me, especially since they're not particularly seeking out such individuals.  Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.

but after all, it's a web-series, not the real world. I wish non-hetero romance did something for me, but alas my brain is stupid and boring.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Case on 27 Jan 2018, 09:29
So what are you saying? Not to put words into your mouth, but is it that the proposed relationships upcoming in the comic are, or seem to be, all forced to be non-standard, that it makes you less interested?
...

Oh, uh. It just seems very forced ... I wish non-hetero romance did something for me, but alas my brain is stupid and boring.

Well, that seems like a 'yes'? There's no accounting for taste, as they say, but that's not the way it works for me - Romance is romance, it's not like just because gay lovers are gay that my brain says "Oh! Gay stuff - not for us, Case" . Love is human emotion - I am a human, so it's also for me.



...
Oh, uh. It just seems very forced. That basically everyone in their surrounding is non-hetero. It's just silly to me, especially since they're not particularly seeking out such individuals.  Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.

There were two posts by pwhodges (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,33856.msg1397975.html#msg1397975) responding to that post of yours, specifically regarding the size of the fraction of humanity that is non-hetero, and comparing that with QCverse - did you bother reading them? Or the linked article?

In QCverse:
All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though.

In fourteen years of the comic, we have one gay relationship in the main cast (Dora/Tai), plus two in peripheral characters (Marten's dad, Faye's sister); and of those, we see little of Dora and Tai at present.  Plus one (just one) trans character/relationship.  Not a lot to write home about [...] So, a focus on certain types of people specifically, but not a silly amount; or if you're saying the relationships themselves are silly, you can expect people around here to try to educate you a bit.

And in the real world (From the article linked in pwhodges post (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2013/oct/03/gay-britain-what-do-statistics-say)):

Quote
93.5% of people said they were 'heterosexual' or 'straight', just 1.1% said they were 'gay' or 'lesbian' and 0.4% said they were bisexual. The small fraction that was left either refused to answer or said they didn't know. Altogether, amounts to about 545,000 homosexual and 220,000 bisexual adults in the UK.


6.5% of people report being non-hetero - that's 1 in 15. At least one in every class in school you attended, one in every bar you've been in ... that's not tiny. It's certainly several times the size of the fraction of people making a living from music, e.g. (or physics, or the Oil Industry ... take any job). I don't see a basis for a claim that Jeph is 'forcing' anything based on the numbers we have.


P.S.: Are you maybe confusing gender and sexual orientation? People can be cisgendered or transgendered (counting the nonbinary as trans for the moment, hope that's OK with everyone), and both cis- and transgendered people can also furthermore be straight, gay, bi or ACE (sexual orientation). Like all of us can be right-, or left-handed and also have blue, or green, or brown eyes - it's not "right-handed, blue-eyed people plus all the rest", not even in countries where the "right-handed and blue-eyed" folk are a plurality, or even majority . Gender is a part of your identity, sexual orientation is who you are attracted to (well, that's also part of your identity in a way, but ... know what I'm sayin'?). So Marten and Claire are both straight - Claire is not "a gay and trans man", she is a straight transwoman. There are also gay transwomen - people assigned male at birth, who are sexually attracted to women, and nonetheless their gender identity is female and they want to live as women.

P.P.S.: Steven and Tortura otoh don't trigger your suspension of disbelief? Two secret-agent characters in one extended social circle of 30+ people? I guess the CIA or MI5 wish they had that kind of staff numbers ...  :lol:
Title: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Jan 2018, 09:32
Have you ever been to Northampton? I live there. We are the lesbian capital of North America. And we have no shortage of other kinds of LGBT folks either. I don’t find the representation in QC to be strange at all.

Edit: this was directed at Vaygr, in case that wasn’t clear.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Jan 2018, 11:14
Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.

Have you ever been to Northampton? I live there. We are the lesbian capital of North America. And we have no shortage of other kinds of LGBT folks either. I don’t find the representation in QC to be strange at all.

Edit: this was directed at Vaygr, in case that wasn’t clear.

One way to look at this is... people tend to like to live in areas that are friendly to people like them. So, you end up getting enclaves like Northampton (or, in central Ohio (where I live), you get the Short North and German Village as Columbus's LGBT enclaves). So, people probably were sorta searching for fellow LGBT people, but this reflects the reality of the area (where Jeph lived when he started the comic, so he has personal experience of the representation of the area), not Jeph searching for LGBT representation.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Vaygr on 02 Feb 2018, 14:44
I wasn't trying to start some kind of arguement about this.

But yes, people tend to search for eachother, but it's just not what the characters seemed to be doing in this. I don't know much about Jeph or where he has lived and such. To me, it seems like he is actually trying to force in LGBT representation, which isn't a bad thing at all. I don't mind anyone or anything, but for some reason my mind just don't find non-hetero relationships interesting.

I wasn't trying to offend anyone with what I said, but maybe I worded it badly.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Jeemy on 02 Feb 2018, 17:59
Put it another way, not to cause an argument, purely as a point of discussion:

'Has there ever been a "standard" relationship in QC apart from Faye and Angus?'

This would ignore Marten and Dora which fizzled, and Sven of course. More accurately, a relationship that was "standard" or "cis" that was a main story-strand?

Its kinda the point of the comic, no? That people with varying ideas/guidelines/backgrounds hook up and bounce off each other?

To vaygr: I don't give a hoot if the relationships in the comic are gay, straight, or non-existant. I don't read for those. I read for the story, and to kill some time; vicarious love stories ain't much for me.

To Case: you say 6.5% of non-heterosexual people is 1/15, and thats true. And thats a LOT of people you know!

Other studies show:

<3.3% NZ
<6% Norway
<4% Spain

In the UK:

2015 / 88.7% exclusively heterosexual! (leaving 12.3% ;)
2017 / 7% homosexual PLUS 5% bisexual
2017 / 81% exclusively heterosexual (leaving 19% no joke 1/5)

Actual figure is maybe even higher than you say.

I know at least 100 people and not a single gay person. Well, I know two gay guys, through two different social circles, who I only knew through friends 20 years ago!

So yeah I would say the proportions in the comic are too high. In RL, too low, compared to these surveys.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Jeemy on 02 Feb 2018, 18:28
I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)

The forum is part of the Internet; you have real-life experience (and so does every other member of the forum, but it's different from yours).  I would respectfully suggest that the forum cannot separate itself from the individual experiences of every one of its members - it's the job of the individual to use their judgement and show respect when interacting with the forum.
This.

Indeed, the US is in no way homogeneous even on very small scales. My home county in the state of Washington is also bigger than Delaware -- and it is quite culturally diverse from west to east: west is urban and suburban Seattle; east is very rural. West is quite liberal; east quite conservative.

Even locally, we're pretty diverse: there are >20 language spoken by students in the nearby high school, all of whom live within ~2 mi of here.

Don't really get your points. I am trying to say to you that I *do try* to understand this stuff, but I categorically don't know anybody outwith my whatever-it-is. I live in a real-life cul-de-sac. Maybe I am in the minority! But I read QC because its an eye-opener to a very different culture and way of life. Which I guess you guys just take for granted....

The statistics themselves are very interesting. In another thread somebody mentioned 6.5% non-heterosexual relationships, I looked up some studies and it was more like 19%.

I *still* won't meet these people in real life. Not in Scotland, not in my little village, not through my family groupings, not to the order of 1.5, 6.5, or 19.5 per cent. Just won't happen. Not cause I don't want it to, more cause my life is centred around my kids. I am vaguely aware (and bemused) that my 5-year-old has a trans friend but its not my business to ask or enquire, and I don't know which friend it is - it makes no difference to me as long as the little people are happy and fed.

Again, if I am not showing respect, please educate me as to how. I am trying to discuss and understand these issues, based on what I assume is fairly light debate around an entertainment topic, but I don't think either my comment or pwhodges comment above re separation, on a re-read, make much sense; I guess I was saying its different in RL percentage-wise to what it is when we all come together on a forum from all parts of the globe, but I am not sure if pwh was saying I am not showing respect, or showing disrespect?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Feb 2018, 11:20
Who was the inked up waitress/bartender who shook Clinton down?  She should fall hopelessly and madly in love with Jimbo.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Feb 2018, 12:56
We never got a name for her. The forum took to calling her Pictoria.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Feb 2018, 13:40
One of Evie's mentors, an as-yet unintroduced human woman who is known by her own name in her professional life, will turn out to be Mrs. Bartholomew Punchbot in her private life.  She will be sworn to secrecy but Punchy Bart will worry about her spilling the beans (or bolts as the case may be).
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Thrudd on 04 Feb 2018, 08:00
Bolts? I was thinking more nuts but washer you gonna do?
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 Feb 2018, 11:22
You know those puns are going to make the bots on the forum angry, pushing their buttons like that.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: JoeCovenant on 05 Feb 2018, 05:25

Screw 'em!
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Aenno on 07 Feb 2018, 15:36
I'd just simply suggest; keep internet world-wide discussion separate from real-world experience. Use your judgement to handle the transition(?)

The forum is part of the Internet; you have real-life experience (and so does every other member of the forum, but it's different from yours).  I would respectfully suggest that the forum cannot separate itself from the individual experiences of every one of its members - it's the job of the individual to use their judgement and show respect when interacting with the forum.
This.

Indeed, the US is in no way homogeneous even on very small scales. My home county in the state of Washington is also bigger than Delaware -- and it is quite culturally diverse from west to east: west is urban and suburban Seattle; east is very rural. West is quite liberal; east quite conservative.

Even locally, we're pretty diverse: there are >20 language spoken by students in the nearby high school, all of whom live within ~2 mi of here.

Don't really get your points. I am trying to say to you that I *do try* to understand this stuff, but I categorically don't know anybody outwith my whatever-it-is. I live in a real-life cul-de-sac. Maybe I am in the minority! But I read QC because its an eye-opener to a very different culture and way of life. Which I guess you guys just take for granted....

The statistics themselves are very interesting. In another thread somebody mentioned 6.5% non-heterosexual relationships, I looked up some studies and it was more like 19%.

I *still* won't meet these people in real life. Not in Scotland, not in my little village, not through my family groupings, not to the order of 1.5, 6.5, or 19.5 per cent. Just won't happen. Not cause I don't want it to, more cause my life is centred around my kids. I am vaguely aware (and bemused) that my 5-year-old has a trans friend but its not my business to ask or enquire, and I don't know which friend it is - it makes no difference to me as long as the little people are happy and fed.

Again, if I am not showing respect, please educate me as to how. I am trying to discuss and understand these issues, based on what I assume is fairly light debate around an entertainment topic, but I don't think either my comment or pwhodges comment above re separation, on a re-read, make much sense; I guess I was saying its different in RL percentage-wise to what it is when we all come together on a forum from all parts of the globe, but I am not sure if pwh was saying I am not showing respect, or showing disrespect?

Sorry if I'm start to bother, but let me tell you a story.

(click to show/hide)

I told all of this because it teaches one simple things - if you don't know you met this kind of people in your life, it doesn't means you don't met them. It can still simply means that this people are not so comfortable to declare it beyond quite locked social circle. And in QC we look at exactly this kind of circle.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Thrillho on 21 Feb 2018, 04:03
I know at least 100 people and not a single gay person. Well, I know two gay guys, through two different social circles, who I only knew through friends 20 years ago!

So yeah I would say the proportions in the comic are too high. In RL, too low, compared to these surveys.

So based entirely on your completely anecdotal evidence you think there's too much in the comic?

If that's the evidence base we're using, even when you freely admit that the figures contradict your own personal experience, let's tell you about my immediate friendship group.

Me: pansexual
Partner #1: pansexual and genderqueer
Partner #2: pansexual and agender
Their best friend: cis bisexual
My best friend: cis bisexual
My other best friend: cis bisexual
Other friends of theirs: A cis-het male who has experimented with homosexuality, a gay cis guy, a bisexual cis female...
Our mutual friend and co-worker: cis-het but doesn't rule out any gender permanently, in a poly marital relationship also

Something you'd notice if you spoke to more queer people on a regular basis is that they can tend to cluster in groups, because the life experience is often so different that cis-het people simply don't understand that day-to-day existence enough to even be able to make small talk with.

But at the very least, my anecdotal evidence cancels yours out really.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: snufflebottoms on 22 Feb 2018, 11:41
Also, Marigold and Dale are cis-het.

And we asked for more of them and we got more of them and now the comic forums are mad about what we got of them lol.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: JoeCovenant on 23 Feb 2018, 02:14
Also, Marigold and Dale are cis-het.

And we asked for more of them and we got more of them and now the comic forums are mad about what we got of them lol.

I'm not mad about it...

Just think that if this is resolved with them both going, "No *I* was stupid!" - "No *I* was stupid!"...
It'll be a bit too twee...
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Feb 2018, 10:37
But not unrealistic. I speak from experience.
Title: Re: Relationships You Wanna See More Of
Post by: JoeCovenant on 26 Feb 2018, 02:45
But not unrealistic. I speak from experience.

Oh, for sure...
I'm just thinking that for 'people of their age' it's less likely to happen IRL... at least, so 'easily'.