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Title: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Sep 2017, 15:14
A serious poll topic this time; I think it would be useful, given that it has generated two separate threads at the end of last week!

My position is clear: I am sure that, because she is shown as processing data in AI-like ways and has shown unusual behaviours and abilities, I think that Emily is AI or AI-like in some fashion. My guess is that she is either a bio-droid or a human whose brain has been augmented with an AI's neural net processor array. In either case, the merger between biological and synthetic is imperfect and is in part responsible for her abnormal behaviour.

Onto this week's strips. I am expecting a conversation between Faye and Bubbles about the properties of tea and how they affect AIs. Maybe we'll even get a canon example of what Assam Tea does for Bubbles! :wink:


[EDIT]
Corrected dates
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: foolsguinea on 24 Sep 2017, 16:05
I'm insulted that people think Emily must be other than biological. I don't think it's that "unique" to be both CloudCuckooLander and synæsthetic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: SmilingCat on 24 Sep 2017, 16:33
I chose human, but I would also accept a Synth from the Institute.

(playing a lot of fallout)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Sep 2017, 17:01
The next stage of Human Evolution
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 24 Sep 2017, 17:44
She's Emily. That's all. Weird all the way down. You just can't handle it. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2999)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 24 Sep 2017, 19:12
She's Emily. That's all. Weird all the way down. You just can't handle it. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2999)

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[ was going to post more but my eldritch rune font doesn't seem to be able to compile on this system ]
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Sep 2017, 19:27
She's Emily. That's all. Weird all the way down. You just can't handle it. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2999)

Are you sure that she's not turtles all the way down?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: zisraelsen on 24 Sep 2017, 19:31
"Professor, my program won't compile and also it's displaying a thread where people speculate as to whether I'm a robot." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2853)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: cesium133 on 24 Sep 2017, 19:51
New comic...

...Gordon!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 24 Sep 2017, 20:02
Can I just say how delighted I am that Pintsize, Winslow, Momo, May, Bubbles, and possibly Roko are all main cast members now? I love love love robot fiction, and QC is doing something pretty much entirely new by integrating robot and human characters so casually. It seems like the comic is finally living up to the potential of that premise.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Parkour Lewis on 24 Sep 2017, 20:07
I REALLY hope the previous counselor was an AI.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: blt on 24 Sep 2017, 21:02
I wonder if Oh-Six was an early Bubbles?

Look they like tea too!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: celticgeek on 24 Sep 2017, 21:24
But is it Assam tea?  Brewed by Hannelore? 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 24 Sep 2017, 21:31
As intimidated as Winslow is by this scenario he's been pushed into, I feel that he has the potential to excel in this role (in time, at least, if not here and now).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: zisraelsen on 24 Sep 2017, 22:12
Agreed. In fact, my Official PredictionTM Is that Winslow's going to be really good at this and will become the new counselor. It'd be convenient story-wise, too, because it would put him in the same room as May and Momo regularly, which has pretty high potential for shenanigans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 24 Sep 2017, 22:27
Agreed. In fact, my Official PredictionTM Is that Winslow's going to be really good at this and will become the new counselor. It'd be convenient story-wise, too, because it would put him in the same room as May and Momo regularly, which has pretty high potential for shenanigans.

Not to mention Pintsize, who has also been shown to attend Support Group.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Sep 2017, 23:18
There are several things that jump out about today's strip that really make me grin.

The most important factor is that I've been where that manager sits and it isn't a pleasant experience. I work as an admin for a company that provides 24-hour care at youth hostels and care homes for adults with learning disabilities. Let me tell you that there are few experiences in this world that provide a greater acme of the concept of 'panic' than having the staff member who was supposed to work the 10pm to 7am shift inform you at 5pm that she can't work the shift and everyone else treating being asked to do cover as if it were an insult.

Winslow's group is an interesting bunch of grotesques, isn't it? There's the example of what Bubbles likely looked like before she had enough self-confidence to remove her helmet, a seriously disgruntled gothic bot and, just in case no-one else noticed, a disgruntled robo-chair. I found myself wondering what sort of a mind would want to be furniture, then I realised that this is a therapy group, so it's quite possible that they didn't want it at all but ECR had a quota to fill!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 25 Sep 2017, 00:14
in case no-one else noticed, a disgruntled robo-chair.

Nah; sometimes even a chair is just a chair.  In any case, that's Gary's chair - he just prefers to sit above it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 25 Sep 2017, 01:43
You actually made me go back and check.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Akima on 25 Sep 2017, 02:17
Does panicky-white-shirt-guy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3576) have acne, or just a really sparse beard?

Is Trisha Helfer hiding in that dark red armour?

Why does Gary have a chair?

So many questions.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Ysobel on 25 Sep 2017, 02:33
I'll also be interested about the reasons for Linux-neckbeard, er, -heatsink guy in the bottom-left corner and especially, what seems to me to be Robo-Brun on the far right, to be in the support group. Well, actually, just to hear more about them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 25 Sep 2017, 02:49
Does panicky-white-shirt-guy (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3576) have acne, or just a really sparse beard?

Stubble; from being up all night panicking (about many things, not just this - I guess he's a serial panicker).

Quote
Why does Gary have a chair?

Everyone has an equal right to a chair - we must not discriminate!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: tustin2121 on 25 Sep 2017, 09:17
Here's the first time (I think) we saw this support group (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2955). I wonder if the guy with blue hair and ear antennas is the counselor who is missing then? Hopefully May will be obligated to show up this time and... erm... help Winslow out? *[crosses fingers]*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 25 Sep 2017, 10:09
So is that the Linux-heatbeard we all know and remember from earlier? It'd be cool if it was, to see how he reacts to Momo and Winslow being in different chassis.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Case on 25 Sep 2017, 10:14
Ok, now I want a "They seem nice ..."-shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 25 Sep 2017, 10:21
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that looks like PT410X.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 25 Sep 2017, 10:31
I get the feeling that the next page will be the group counseling our new councilor.
That is if Winslow is true to form and blurts out an apology and just how inexperienced he is.
If so I think that would be followed by a mousy plea for help.

There may be some banter as to why his predecessor isn't there followed by the various members of the group giving their opinions on the matter thus revealing various facets of their personalities.
I am hoping for at least one being a horrible wonderful horrid pundit.  :claireface:
I vote 06 - just because you are in a shell doesn't mean you can't be exasperating.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2017, 10:48
Winslow has been a companion to a mentally ill friend for years. The experience may help him.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Bollthorn on 25 Sep 2017, 11:33
I find the idea of Emily being a T-800 Terminator in disguise hilarious.

Also YAY FOR GARY!! :D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2017, 11:38
Winslow has been a companion to a mentally ill friend for years. The experience may help him.

And here I was thinking that with her resources, Hanners would just be eccentric.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 25 Sep 2017, 16:11
Oh dear

Nothing like getting  thrown in at the deep end.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 25 Sep 2017, 16:55
Poor Winslow.  :-D :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: War Sparrow on 25 Sep 2017, 20:26
I like this. Winslow doesn't know what to do, so he opts for being supportive. Good job, Winslow.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 25 Sep 2017, 20:42
And Winslow immediately demonstrates his natural talent for empathy. A pretty important trait for a counselor to have!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 25 Sep 2017, 20:55
I'm silently cheering for Winslow. What a sweet person. This comic made my night.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Morituri on 25 Sep 2017, 21:12
Why should Emily Azuma be anything other than Emily Azuma?  She just is.  That's enough.  I like her.

And Go Winslow!  You may not be trained for a counselor but you could've done a lot worse for an opening round. And I don't think this is a 'hardcore' counseling position; the guy did say 'volunteer', so they're probably not looking for licensed doctors.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2017, 21:18
Rising to the occasion. Well done, Winslow.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Storel on 25 Sep 2017, 21:27
Here's the first time (I think) we saw this support group (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2955). I wonder if the guy with blue hair and ear antennas is the counselor who is missing then? Hopefully May will be obligated to show up this time and... erm... help Winslow out? *[crosses fingers]*

In a town this size, I suspect there is probably more than one night a week for the support group to meet, just like there's probably more than one AA meeting a week. (There may even be more than one support group, depending on what exactly the AIs want support for, just as there are different organizations hosting 12-step meetings for alcoholics, drug users, sex addicts...) So people (AIs) go to whichever night fits their schedule best, or has the counselor they like best, or has more of their friends attending it, or...

So I'm thinking we probably won't see May or Momo.

And yes, things are working out better for Winslow than I was expecting after seeing Monday's strip. Good job, Winslow!

Edit: And folks like Gary/Gordon the Robospider probably go to all the nights. (Some folks need more support than others.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 Sep 2017, 22:27
We have seen successful cat rescues here before, haven't we?
(um, I may be thinking of a different webcomic...)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: brasca on 25 Sep 2017, 22:39
Didn't know Winslow had it in him, but then again his previous chassis was limiting. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: DaiJB on 25 Sep 2017, 22:42
This is one of those rare moments when I agree with May... Gary - you are a giant spider. When choosing a chassis, did you just look at a list of biological lifeforms and say "That one! I'll have something like the eight-legged venomous one that makes people scream and run away!" ??

...And I am totally hearing Droid 06 with the voice of Mongo...

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: MrNumbers on 25 Sep 2017, 23:04
So AI's get to choose their chassis, or have a degree of personalization over what they get, right?

You gotta wonder what made panel 2 AI go; "Yes, pirranha-head antenna-ears here is a perfect fit for who I am"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Sep 2017, 23:15
Today's strip is a deliberate reflection of that strip where Faye hears the story of the others in her alcoholism support group, isn't it?

From the way he talks, I'm thinking that Droid 06 is Bizarro-Bubbles. He's strong, sweet-natured and has absolutely no understanding of just how his strength might intimidate people, especially if misused. As for the rest of of them? I'm wondering if Grey and Gary have the same problems - People drawing conclusions from their chassis and not bothering to get to know them as people.

Oh-Six's speech patterns are odd. Is it possible for AIs to be educationally subnormal? Given they apparently can reflect almost all other aspects of the human condition, why not this too? I suspect that Droid 06 is in a power-lifter chassis designed for moving huge weights. It isn't exactly a great job but it may be one of the few ones he can get due to his restricted information-processing ability. However, there is no doubt that he has a good heart and desperately wants to be liked for his efforts in the community. Oh... one other thing: The way he's nursing that tea cup makes me wonder if he has substance abuse issues. :-\

I really think that Gary is going to have to come to terms with the fact his chassis is inherently horrifying to some. It's tough but you've got to be realistic about these things! People who know him won't mind so he needs to be more structured in his approach to introductions.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 Sep 2017, 23:36
Emily seems to be around Rick Sanchez levels of genius. Just without the extreme self-loathing, massive ego, and anti-social tendencies.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Timemaster on 25 Sep 2017, 23:48
Anyone else here seeing Droid 06 as wearing a big, fat grin on his face and Jeph has just forgotten to draw his eyes?  :-D

TM
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 25 Sep 2017, 23:55
You should see the way I nurse my coffee in the morning!

Maybe I've got a substance abuse problem...  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Sep 2017, 00:02
You should see the way I nurse my coffee in the morning!

Maybe I've got a substance abuse problem...  :-o

Unlike Oh-Six, you have another use for the beverage than getting high. (Although there is increasing medical concern that people are becoming addicted to caffeinated beverages but I digress.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 26 Sep 2017, 00:08
Did I miss a comic?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Sep 2017, 03:49
A few thoughts:

Punkbot (for so I immediately named him upon seeing him) needs to meet May. They'd get along famously.

Who is the lady that Punchbot is so sad about? Is she a robot who prefers humans, or is she a human who had a fling with a robot?

And is this our Punchbot, or possibly the other Punchbot from Punchbot & Punchbot CPAs? Because the only time we've ever seen our Punchbot sad is when he hurt his arm punching things.

DROID 06 IS FORMER RUSSIAN MILITARY DROID. DROID 06 BUY CHEAP ENGLISH LANGUAGE MODULE ON EBAY. DROID 06 MAKE MISTAKE.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Oenone on 26 Sep 2017, 04:40
I don’t think Gary could choose his chassis— after all, May couldn’t choose her when she was incarnated into the bank server or whatever.

Also, the previous counselor probably assigned him a chair to help with inappropriate physicality. Just because you CAN be on the ceiling doesn’t mean you SHOULD be.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 26 Sep 2017, 05:03
Also, the previous counselor probably assigned him a chair to help with inappropriate physicality. Just because you CAN be on the ceiling doesn’t mean you SHOULD be.
Also the resting on top of others heads may be convenient, it is not conducive to the others stress levels.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JimC on 26 Sep 2017, 05:22
(Although there is increasing medical concern that people are becoming addicted to caffeinated beverages but I digress.)
I'm not sure that addiction is a problem if there are no negative consequences from that addiction. But I do know a psychiatrist who has concerns about the long term mental effects of persistent use of psychtropic agents like caffeine.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JimC on 26 Sep 2017, 05:32
So AI's get to choose their chassis, or have a degree of personalization over what they get, right?
None of the main stream characters who've got new chassis seem to have had anything put off the shelf models. There was a significant amount of customisation at the skate park, and of course Pintsize wants a metal phallius, but otherwise its not a thing. And Union Robotics doesn't (so far?) seem to be promoting customising body parts. Everything we've seen so far looks like the motor car industry - although individually customised items are possible, in practice nearly everyone purchasing a car goes for a standard production model with a certain amount of trivial variety in factory fitted optional extras.

One also wonders about legislative restrictions. So far the QC universe is following the Asimov principle that in general a roughly humanoid shape and size body that can operate tools and machinery intendes for humans is the best option: we're not saying (so far?) AIs built into buses or cars, although May (I could have been a fighter jet) suggests such things exist.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Sep 2017, 05:39
So AI's get to choose their chassis, or have a degree of personalization over what they get, right?
we're not saying (so far?) AIs built into buses or cars, although May (I could have been a fighter jet) suggests such things exist.


Hannelore's dad owns a space shuttle that's flown by an AI who claims to have a poor understanding of human nudity taboos (although I can't help wonder if he's actually an exhibitionist). Additionally, Hannelore got a lift to Emily's lake party on a stealth troop transport aircraft that was also operated by an AI who was very disappointed that he/she couldn't go to the party too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2017, 06:01
Not to mention Station.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 26 Sep 2017, 07:00
Good job, Winslow!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 26 Sep 2017, 08:15
You should see the way I nurse my coffee in the morning!

Maybe I've got a substance abuse problem...  :-o
Like this?
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/c0/67/1ec06764979dcde7e96b754176dbdde6.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 26 Sep 2017, 09:29
Not to mention Station.

Too Late!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JimC on 26 Sep 2017, 14:31
Hannelore's dad owns a space shuttle that's flown by an AI... [etc]

True enough, but Ellicott-Chatham industries probably isn't a very typical organisation as regards AI careers/opportunities in the AI universe.


[Later] Now I think of it, in one of the Nll scenes the salesAI used to be a sentient forklift and another is in a toaster, not to mention Deathbot 9000, so we do have other examples of none-humanoid chassis. The text way back where Jeff was talking about AI careers also implied and more that only a subset go humanoid now I think of it. So basically I was talking *****!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2017, 14:57
Too Late!

Er, no?  The shuttle (which you mentioned) is flown by a separate AI from Station.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 26 Sep 2017, 15:33
Nicely done there Winslow.

Droid DE needs new Social Program
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: SmilingCat on 26 Sep 2017, 15:54
I can only assume that Droid 06 is related to Deathbot 9000.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Thrudd on 26 Sep 2017, 16:42
Late to the party here - didn't one of the sales people, at the shop where the first upgrade was purchased for Momo, used to be a nuclear sub and that she still had the launch codes [maniacal-laughter-2.flac]?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Sep 2017, 19:08
Did I miss a comic?

That's what I assume when the comments stop making sense. Sometimes it's true.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 26 Sep 2017, 19:45
New comic literally made me clap. Well done, Winslow.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 26 Sep 2017, 20:24
 :laugh: :lol: :-D

I LOVE May's NOPE.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: zisraelsen on 26 Sep 2017, 20:42
Anyone else think that Jeph is drawing Gordon WAY more adorably than he used to? He used to be way more disconcerting than he is now. Maybe the eyes are bigger and less spidery.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: War Sparrow on 26 Sep 2017, 20:51
Gary/Gordon has always been adorable to me, so that's a no from me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Sep 2017, 21:15
To be fair, I'm with May on this one. Then again, I always hated group therapy sessions. Glad the others are getting something good out of it, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: oeoek on 26 Sep 2017, 22:38
In my mind the group hug for bots sound like a metal bucket full of cutlery tumbling down a staircase, followed by some pained-metal screeching sounds when 06 joined the fray. All in all a rather loud hug, and I'm a bit surprised May did not hear all that before entering.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: brasca on 26 Sep 2017, 22:53
Hope Winslow isn't discouraged by this.  For a first time therapist this was quite a success. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Sep 2017, 23:12
Poor May! All she wants from a therapy session is to sit in a corner, sulk, make the occasional sarcastic comment  and grunt noncommitally at the things the counsellor tells her. What she doesn't want is to be in a group hug! Which is a shame, really, because I've thought that she needs reinforcement that she's liked and valued by her friends for a while.

Now, is it me or is Panel 4 May (yes the middle and bottom rows are single panels - the background just makes it hard to tell) having something of a panic attack? Of all the things that she expected to possibly see, this is not one of them!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: theMarc on 26 Sep 2017, 23:29
*Sings the words "hug zone" to the tune of Chalk Zone's opening theme*

♫"Who needs a hug? Hug, hug, hug zone..."♪
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 27 Sep 2017, 02:27
Too Late!

Er, no?  The shuttle (which you mentioned) is flown by a separate AI from Station.

Wrong quote!  :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Sep 2017, 07:24
Well May is only there because her parole mandates it. I presume the others are there because they want to be. Because sometimes it's useful to talk about your problems with other bots who understand, instead of squishy human friends who may be accepting, but have never been in that sort of situation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 27 Sep 2017, 07:40
FWIW, I'm wondering if Jeph is going to introduce a running joke for his synthetic characters. May will finally unbend enough to let Winston privately hug her after the session and likes it. She remarks that she doesn't get why as her chassis doesn't have complex enough tactile sensors to provide such a strong response data to physical contact. Winslow will tell her that it is 'probably psychosomatic'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 27 Sep 2017, 11:08
I wonder what kind of professional ethics bind Winslow and as an untrained volunteer counselor?  If he were a meat person, a personal relationship outside of the group would be problematic, so he'd have to tread lightly around May.  It might not be such a big deal with bots, though.

May was interested in Tin Can with a Shitty Attitude guy because she was hoping for someone as sour (is that a thing with bots?) on the world as she is, but seeing him there all serene in the mutual support of their peers dashes her hopes for a partner in anti-social attitude and turmoil.  ("If I throw in with them, I'll have to genuinely smile and find good in the world!  I'm may be wrong about everything being awful, and I'm scared shitless of going there!  Yech!!")
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Sep 2017, 15:21
Awww come on May

Hugzone is cool
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 27 Sep 2017, 15:28
In my mind the group hug for bots sound like a metal bucket full of cutlery tumbling down a staircase, followed by some pained-metal screeching sounds when 06 joined the fray. All in all a rather loud hug, and I'm a bit surprised May did not hear all that before entering.

Keep in mind that most AI chassis come with squeaky synthetic skin. 06 is armored, so he probably doesn't have it, but the rest likely do.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Zeev on 27 Sep 2017, 16:49
So I can see 3 reasons why this would upset May.
1. This is court ordered therapy and having said therapy be run by a friend could possibly look bad to her parole officer.
2. Despite being court ordered ahe actually gets something out of therapy and having a close friend of Momo/Hannelore/Marigold/Dale severely limits what she can say in session, especially since Winslow is not bound by any form of patient confidentiality and is someone she has had a recent conflict with.
3. May does not seem to like physical contact outside of narrow parameters (close friends and monetary transactions)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 27 Sep 2017, 18:21
So I can see 3 reasons why this would upset May.
1. This is court ordered therapy and having said therapy be run by a friend could possibly look bad to her parole officer.
2. Despite being court ordered ahe actually gets something out of therapy and having a close friend of Momo/Hannelore/Marigold/Dale severely limits what she can say in session, especially since Winslow is not bound by any form of patient confidentiality and is someone she has had a recent conflict with.
3. May does not seem to like physical contact outside of narrow parameters (close friends and monetary transactions)

As for #2, Momo and Pintsize have both been shown in group with May.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 27 Sep 2017, 19:37
COMIC

And Winslow has found his true calling.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Sep 2017, 19:55
I think he's going to do just fine in this job.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 27 Sep 2017, 20:23
As someone who is NOT a hugger, I totally get May.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Cornelius on 27 Sep 2017, 21:38
I think this shows exactly why he was paired with Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: ChipNoir on 27 Sep 2017, 22:28
To be honest, I never thought of Winslow actually 'helping' Hanners out. He's some help, I'm sure, but once Hanners really freaks out, there really isn't anything ANYONE can do, and she just kinda has to ride it out till sanity returns. I imagine Winslow does his best by playing videos of cute kitten or something.

This is a whoooole new sea of fish for him, and it seems that a new part of his personality has emerged. I like it. It feels a 'little' bit out of nowhere compared to how unsure and neurotic he's tended to be previously. But I do believe some people do come into their own when they're thrust into the deep end.

So if "new" Winslow has turned around and eaten the old one, I  say Bon Appetite.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 27 Sep 2017, 23:05
Well, Winslow might think that May is making progress but her Big Dark RevelationTM certainly doesn't say anything about her that I didn't already know at least! :wink: Still, it's sweet that she's able to admit to Winslow that she feels genuinely uncomfortable with her court-mandated therapy and that this is impacting on her progress. It's obvious that her friendship with Winslow is important to her; otherwise, why would she even feel bound to say anything at all?

The more I hear from Droid 06, the more that he comes across as a droid recreation of Lenny from Of Mice and Men. Ultimately innocent and sweet but so large and powerful that he could cause a lot of destruction without meaning to and needing constant close assistance to help him understand why such destruction is a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: ChipNoir on 27 Sep 2017, 23:20
Well, Winslow might thing that May is making progress but her Big Dark RevelationTM certainly doesn't say anything about her that I didn't already know at least! :wink: Still, it's sweet that she's able to admit to Winslow that she feels genuinely uncomfortable with her court-mandated therapy and that this is impacting on her progress. It's obvious that her friendship with Winslow is important to her; otherwise, why would she even feel bound to say anything at all?

The more I hear from Droid 06, the more that he comes across as a droid recreation of Lenny from Of Mice and Men. Ultimately innocent and sweet but so large and powerful that he could cause a lot of destruction without meaning to and needing constant close assistance to help him understand why such destruction is a bad idea.

Don't forget that Hanners laid a HEAVY on her, and in a way that she doesn't have the ability to counter with her usual defense mechanism.. Had Hanners castigated her the way a lot of people have wanted her to, May could clap back and repeat her cycle of self vindication. But because it was delivered the way it was, she now has to handle her feedback in a way she's absolutely not used to.

S'awhole new world for her too now. I don't think anyone's leveled with May that way before, and it's opened up a new perspective for her; That she knows this is a problem, and she has never had a reason to live any other way till now. Even more disarming that Winslow is perfectly willing to see past that, and help her through it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Case on 27 Sep 2017, 23:28
Ok, now I'm imagining how Fight Club would have played out with Winslow leading the sessions ...

(https://s1.favim.com/orig/11/fight-club-movie-quote-screencap-Favim.com-177695.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tlaloc on 28 Sep 2017, 02:40
Do AI have spirit animals>  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 28 Sep 2017, 03:20
Ok, now I'm imagining how Fight Club would have played out with Winslow leading the sessions ...

(https://s1.favim.com/orig/11/fight-club-movie-quote-screencap-Favim.com-177695.jpg)

Heyyyy now...

Maybe THIS is why Pintsize wants the metal schlong!!!!

 :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Morituri on 28 Sep 2017, 09:57
Do AI have spirit animals>  :psyduck:

I thought they had spirit appliances.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 28 Sep 2017, 19:44
comic's up

Does this mean we'll be seeing a Dale arc in the near future?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 28 Sep 2017, 20:22
What you feel is what you are and what you are is beautiful

Oh May...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Sep 2017, 22:29
Ugh, I can definitely sympathize with May here; I can't stand the sort of person who immediately jumps from recognizing a problem to trying to solve it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 28 Sep 2017, 23:20
So, we're getting closer to May's problem: She doesn't feel able to express herself around others because she doesn't like being seen as a problem to solve. Worse, I don't think she has an easy time dealing with those who, out of good intentions, can come across as smothering or interfering, the way Momo unfortunately does. The problem is, of course, that Marigold is so lazy and afraid of failure that Momo has to push to get her to do anything and she's been trying to do the same thing to May!

I suspect that May's big breakthrough is going to be realising that the reason people won't 'leave her alone' is because they genuinely care for her. This may come as a big shock to her because I don't think that she ever really believed anyone (with the possible exception of Dale) has ever done that for her.

She doesn't really know what friendship is because no-one has ever really done it to her before she moved to Northampton. That is truly tragic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: swapna on 29 Sep 2017, 05:22
Ugh, I can definitely sympathize with May here; I can't stand the sort of person who immediately jumps from recognizing a problem to trying to solve it.
Yeah, I can sympathise with May all the way. I wouldn't've come back, and she's clearly not comfortable. Therapy often isn't easy, and you speak about things you're not comfortable with, but the person you're speaking with shouldn't be the problem.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: BenRG on 29 Sep 2017, 05:54
A part of me is now wondering if, at some point in the near future, May is going to ask Momo if she wants a siren fitted that automatically sounds whenever she realises someone is in need of help. Momo will say no, of course. However, later on, she'll admit to someone else (possibly Marigold) that having a siren fitted would be cool.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 29 Sep 2017, 07:14
Awww. Wonder if Dale realizes he's been neglecting May, a bit?

Tho it's quite possible he thinks he's 'giving her space' and doesn't realize he may have gone too far.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: tustin2121 on 29 Sep 2017, 08:06
I love the detail that May is never looking at Winslow during this, actively avoiding eye contact. I know in similar situations, I could never make eye contact with the person I'm having uncomfortable conversations with.

Also, Linux bot is still here, but I guess he didn't want to participate in the group hug. That or he was below the frame.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Sep 2017, 08:19
Yeah, PT410x is not a group hug kind of guy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Tova on 29 Sep 2017, 18:19
Some people are quite demonstrative, have a good emotional self-understanding, and feel comfortable in allowing others access to their  inner selves.

Then there's May.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: brasca on 29 Sep 2017, 22:09
Awww. Wonder if Dale realizes he's been neglecting May, a bit?

Tho it's quite possible he thinks he's 'giving her space' and doesn't realize he may have gone too far.

Dale is not May's keeper.  He gave her an up vote so she could get paroled, gave her a place to stay, and has a higher tolerance for her than most.  Even May doesn't begrudge him having to work and getting laid.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Sep 2017, 08:20
He's not her keeper, but he is her friend. Not saying he owes her anything, but I think he'd be upset if he realised how lonely she is. It's easy to neglect friendships without realizing it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 30 Sep 2017, 10:32
He's not her keeper, but he is her friend. Not saying he owes her anything, but I think he'd be upset if he realised how lonely she is. It's easy to neglect friendships without realizing it.
And May is the sort, human or bot, to actively hide their emotions behind a stone veneer.  Part of her self-definition is being hard as nails and letting on to anyone that she's actually quite fragile terrifies the Hell out of her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JimC on 30 Sep 2017, 13:33
Awww. Wonder if Dale realizes he's been neglecting May, a bit?
May is basically Dale's uninvited lodger isn't she? And Dale never asked for her, either as Virtual commpanion or when she got out of robot jail. So neglect is a bit strong isn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Sep 2017, 13:55
He invited her to stay when she got released.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Kugai on 30 Sep 2017, 14:41
Winslow's definitely handling May just right.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Storel on 30 Sep 2017, 15:09
I love Winslow's expression in the final panel. Who knew he could be so sarcastic?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 30 Sep 2017, 15:29
Going back a couple of strips, did we ever reach consensus on who the "she" that broke up with possibly-Punchbot was?
Like was she human or AI?
For extra intrigue, was she Number 07, last seen hooking up with Jeremy the former assembly-arm?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: OldGoat on 30 Sep 2017, 16:22
Awww. Wonder if Dale realizes he's been neglecting May, a bit?
May is basically Dale's uninvited lodger isn't she? And Dale never asked for her, either as Virtual commpanion or when she got out of robot jail. So neglect is a bit strong isn't it?
But Dale is so damned decent a human being that he's at risk of being canonized as a saint.  He doesn't do the right thing because he's supposed to or expects some reward, it just doesn't occur to him to do anything else, at least in real life (his in-game persona may be quite different).  He's apt to fault himself for neglecting her even if he's under no obligation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: JimC on 01 Oct 2017, 04:09
He invited her to stay when she got released.
Invited?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2713

Quote
"so, can I crash here?"
  "What, No!"
"...just gimme a chance. Please"
  "You pay rent. You help clean. And if you do or say ANYTHING to hurt Marigold -"
Not really an invitation, is it!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: shanejayell on 01 Oct 2017, 06:52
 :lol:

That's probably what May tells folks.

"He invited me!"

"What? NO!"

"Ha. He's just tsundere..."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: mephron on 01 Oct 2017, 14:50
May does have some admirable points. For example, she refuses to violate another's privacy as seen in http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2761 .

She doesn't like people ruder than she is: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2762

Maybe once she realizes that she doesn't need to be defensive all the time - maybe something else she picked up in RoboJail - she'll... well, still be a jerk, but a somewhat less directly offensive jerk.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3576 to 3580 (25th to 29th September 2017)
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Oct 2017, 16:45
Going back a couple of strips, did we ever reach consensus on who the "she" that broke up with possibly-Punchbot was?
Like was she human or AI?
For extra intrigue, was she Number 07, last seen hooking up with Jeremy the former assembly-arm?

That has yet to be resolved.