What do you mean? I've got the right subject on my post.Did I space out and forget to change the comic numbers? I could have sworn I changed them. Oh wel if I did. At least I got the dates right. And came up with a semi-original poll.
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I cannot think of anyone more deserving of having Tilly unleashed upon them than mobile-phone companies, so I'm down with her plan.
You know who could very much use someone with Tilly's particular set of skills?I thought the same! There's even foreshadowing for it 2,388 pages back (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1233)!
Faye and Bubbles.
I'm sorry... Tilly managed to get an actual REBATE out of the phone company on top of a replacement phone? not just nulling out the price... cash back?
She is the Harbinger. The Supernatural is confirmed to be real, and the Ghosts from Bedford are heading this way.
You know who could very much use someone with Tilly's particular set of skills?
Faye and Bubbles.
I really want to know what the dripping speech bubble sounds like. It must be pretty scary, given Dora's reaction.
I really want to know what the dripping speech bubble sounds like. It must be pretty scary, given Dora's reaction.
This is me but I can't help but wonder how much of Tilly's achievement came from precisely the same set of malfunctions that we've all been complaining about in terms of her behaviour towards Hannelore: Relentless cheer and an utter inability to understand a negative response if it is not in line with her personal objectives. Basically, the customer service rep gave in to shut her up and get her off the line. I'm pretty sure that this works IRL and is the basis of the telesales industry.
I really want to know what the dripping speech bubble sounds like. It must be pretty scary, given Dora's reaction.
I really want to know what the dripping speech bubble sounds like.
No Bubbles in the poll? I am disappoint.
No Bubbles in the poll? I am disappoint.
I cannot think of anyone more deserving of having Tilly unleashed upon them than mobile-phone companies, so I'm down with her plan.
It almost seems a little unfair, though ... well, almost.
I really want to know what the dripping speech bubble sounds like. It must be pretty scary, given Dora's reaction.
The only trouble with unleashing on mobile phone companies is the difficulty of getting hold of the executives who make the mind bogglingly customer hostile policies, and not the poor minimum wage peons who are IME clearly terrified they'll be booted for making the slightest variation from the script. I had to sit in a shop for an hour and a half before they could get some one who had the authority to say, yes, they can swap a sim carrier over from another phone to replace the one they lost, and not make me wait two weeks and exchange the whole frigging phone...I cannot think of anyone more deserving of having Tilly unleashed upon them than mobile-phone companies, so I'm down with her plan.
It almost seems a little unfair, though ... well, almost.
This is me but I can't help but wonder how much of Tilly's achievement came from precisely the same set of malfunctions that we've all been complaining about in terms of her behaviour towards Hannelore: Relentless cheer and an utter inability to understand a negative response if it is not in line with her personal objectives. Basically, the customer service rep gave in to shut her up and get her off the line. I'm pretty sure that this works IRL and is the basis of the telesales industry.
No Bubbles in the poll? I am disappoint.
Bubbles isn't cute, she's awesome! :-D
He was hella cute in the old days (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=60) tbh.
You could argue we first heard about them in this one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1).He was hella cute in the old days (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=60) tbh.
That was before he got strange porn habits. Or maybe before we heard about them...
For the posts about Tilly's work damaging entry level employees, definitely possible but I'd be hopeful that Tilly would be able to quickly get access to higher ups with the type of authority to okay those deals. In my experience, depending on the level you are/are dealing with, there is a hard line in what they can actually do, no matter how persistent the customer is being. Although that doesn't mean the higher up won't get into trouble either.
No Bubbles in the poll? I am disappoint.
IAWTP
(Maybe just a foregone conclusion she'd be WAY out in front?)
I did specify that it was based on appearance alone with disreard to their actions and words.He was hella cute in the old days (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=60) tbh.
That was before he got strange porn habits. Or maybe before we heard about them...
Well, at least the spider is fuzzy and not one with a health bar...
So much of the Tilly plot could have been done with Winslow.
So much of the Tilly plot could have been done with Winslow.
He was hella cute in the old days (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=60) tbh.
So much of the Tilly plot could have been done with Winslow.
So much of the Tilly plot could have been done with Winslow.
oh wow that would have been so much better.
Winslow wanting to make himself useful. Winslow wanting to be like Momo, only Hannelore isn't Marigold and she doesn't need a Momo.
For the posts about Tilly's work damaging entry level employees, definitely possible but I'd be hopeful that Tilly would be able to quickly get access to higher ups with the type of authority to okay those deals. In my experience, depending on the level you are/are dealing with, there is a hard line in what they can actually do, no matter how persistent the customer is being. Although that doesn't mean the higher up won't get into trouble either.
The sort of aggressive negotiation game Tilly plays involves escalating to higher-ups after already manipulating the entry level worker as far as possible, massively spinning what the previous person agreed to as a starting position, and then manipulating the next person as far as *they* can go. Rinse, repeat, and after three or four rounds you walk away with a spectacular deal while low-level workers are left holding the bag.
...I'm also broadly sure that the baseball bat is only because Hannelore is nervous about bugs. There isn't really large enough spiders that you'd need a weapon like that (unless Jeph has quietly moved the setting to Australia without mentioning it). ...
You cannot negotiate with spiders.But some spiders can negotiate with mazes (http://www.americanarachnology.org/joa_free/joa_v35_n3/joa-35-3-487.pdf). These same spiders think ahead and make plans (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/160121-jumping-spiders-animals-science/).
We already knew that Beatrice didn't know that much about Hanners, that she smoked, drank or had her ears repeated pierced.
But really, its a sign of how out of touch that Beatrice is with her own daughter, given that the dossier is out of date and possesses the wrong information.
But its also a sign of how desperate Tilly is to make a good first impression that she's based her enter strategy around wrong information. Which is kinda depressing...and a little pathetic...
Hanners is "Earth"You think Hannelore is going to explode?
Tilly is "Ford Prefect"
The Dossier is "The Guide" ??
Not really. I'm not sure I have a 'favourite' colour. f I were pressed, I'd say: "Dunno... Green maybe?" I'm pretty sure it was red when I was a kid but these days, I don't know.
Hanners is "Earth"You think Hannelore is going to explode?
Tilly is "Ford Prefect"
The Dossier is "The Guide" ??
Everyone's favourite colour is green or blue, because we all feel the quiescent siren-song of the glassy sea calling us home.And that song is playued out by the gentle lapping of waves on the shoreline.
Not really. I'm not sure I have a 'favourite' colour. f I were pressed, I'd say: "Dunno... Green maybe?" I'm pretty sure it was red when I was a kid but these days, I don't know.I find favourite colours to be entirely situational. Like, I have a favourite hair colour but I wouldn’t wear clothes that colour, and my favourite colour of clothes would never end up on a wall I was decorating, and so on. The idea of a singular solitary colour that you favour at all times and in all situations seems silly to me.
Everyone's favourite colour is green or blue, because we all feel the quiescent siren-song of the glassy sea calling us home.And that song is playued out by the gentle lapping of waves on the shoreline.
DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM ...... [from the mind of a person who is terrified of drowning]
Colours here are Green and Gold, as in the colour of the forests in Spring, Summer and Autumn. The Winter's blacks, greys and whites are more melancholy unless there is some coniferous greens mixed in.
I find it... Odd that Tilly didn't mention their pronouns until now. This is the fourth person they've introduced themself too, and they didn't have any problem repeatedly insisting that their name was being said wrong, so... It just seems odd that they didn't mention it until now, but bring it up here without any sort of comment or reason for the change in behavior.
(Also: What is Hannelore looking at in the bottom left panel? Tilly's speech bubble?)
There is one other person who goes by the pronoun they. I theorized before that this could be Spookybot assuming a different form and this could be a clue.
Man...I don't think I've ever been browing the WCDT threads during a new character introduction before.
Do they usually get this hostile? Like, I get it, Tilly's kinda obnoxious, but dang. Daaaang.
Everyone's favourite colour is green or blue, because we all feel the quiescent siren-song of the glassy sea calling us home.
the 'main cast' is always changing and the focus is slowly drifting across new characters as the writer runs out of material for the old onesOr, of course because that's simply what happens in real life...
Welcome new poster :) Feel free to introduce you some more in the 'Hi I'm new' forum. :clairedoge:I find it... Odd that Tilly didn't mention their pronouns until now. This is the fourth person they've introduced themself too, and they didn't have any problem repeatedly insisting that their name was being said wrong, so... It just seems odd that they didn't mention it until now, but bring it up here without any sort of comment or reason for the change in behavior.speaking as a nonbinary person, it can be easier to correct new people on your name more than your pronouns. pronouns are gendered by nature, but names have more leeway, especially since nb folk tend to pick unisex names. and people who don't know you tend to easily accept being corrected on your name as "oh, I didn't know" whereas asking for different pronouns than they assumed turns it into a whole Thing.
Sorry, I don't get the joke about pronouns. I guess that's the limit of my knowledge of the arcanes of english language...
Maybe not quite this hostile. There's airways some hostility.And partly also because the only time someone has referred to Tilly using a pronoun was Dora in 3614 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3614), and at that point Tilly was preoccupied with not being killed to notice the error.
It's interesting, I think, that Jeph has chosen to withhold Tilly's preferred pronouns until now. Playing the long game, eh?
Sorry, I don't get the joke about pronouns. I guess that's the limit of my knowledge of the arcanes of english language...
There isn't a joke. Tilly is indirectly signalling that she's non-binary in her identified gender and doesn't consider either male or female pronouns to apply to her in an entirely correct way.
I live in Sweden and I'm glad that we are starting to pick up a neutral pronoun "hen" (in contrast to han = he, and hon = she).***
I guess that's why the term they/them in singular confuses the hell out of me (on a purely linguistical way, mind you) because we already got a non-binary pronoun and leave the they/them for plurals only. :P
*** = Feel free to make any poultry jokes you like, cuz I can't come up with a single one.
Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
Yeah... a singular would be a great addition to the language.
Y'see, I find this They/Them thing VERY difficult to take on, because for 50+ years I've been raised to think that calling someone THEY or THEM was unspeakably rude.
(Would make ordering Pizza MUCH easier though!)
Maybe not quite this hostile. There's airways some hostility.And partly also because the only time someone has referred to Tilly using a pronoun was Dora in 3614 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3614), and at that point Tilly was preoccupied with not being killed to notice the error.
It's interesting, I think, that Jeph has chosen to withhold Tilly's preferred pronouns until now. Playing the long game, eh?
I'm amused by the way so many posters on this forum were deliberately calling Tilly Taffy while knowing that wasn't their correct name, but have uniformly jumped into line when told to use gender-neutral pronouns.
Is that more important than getting somebody's name right?
I honestly feel like Jeph made Tilly non-binary in an attempt to make them less vulnerable to hate. Like, I'm going to make them a giant asshole but then I'm going to add in this part as their hook and ignore the fact that this character is just amazingly grating.
Yeah... a singular would be a great addition to the language.
Y'see, I find this They/Them thing VERY difficult to take on, because for 50+ years I've been raised to think that calling someone THEY or THEM was unspeakably rude.
AFAIK, "they"/"them" as singular gender-neutral animate pronouns is actually the safest one to use when gender is unknown or the subject is non-binary. Note that there are some constructs like "ze"/"zir" - newly-coined singular gender-neutral animate pronouns - that some non-binary people prefer, though, but I don't think I've personally seen a single case where such a person found "they"/"them" to be unacceptable.
It's "it"/"its" that are rude, because those pronouns, while actually singular and gender-neutral, are inanimate.(Would make ordering Pizza MUCH easier though!)
Remember that Hannelore has the power (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3046) to summon orbital pizza bombardment at the push of a button.
Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
That's exactly how I feel about it, as well, though perhaps more for the reaction than the arc itself.
I'm amused by the way so many posters on this forum were deliberately calling Tilly Taffy while knowing that wasn't their correct name, but have uniformly jumped into line when told to use gender-neutral pronouns.
Is that more important than getting somebody's name right?
I'm amused by the way so many posters on this forum were deliberately calling Tilly Taffy while knowing that wasn't their correct name, but have uniformly jumped into line when told to use gender-neutral pronouns.
Is that more important than getting somebody's name right?
I'll leave that question to the gender-variant people here but I'm prepared to believe a "yes" answer.
Think about the relative abjectness of the apologies you make when you misgender someone versus getting their name wrong.
We already knew that Beatrice didn't know that much about Hanners, that she smoked, drank or had her ears repeated pierced.
But really, its a sign of how out of touch that Beatrice is with her own daughter, given that the dossier is out of date and possesses the wrong information.
But its also a sign of how desperate Tilly is to make a good first impression that she's based her enter strategy around wrong information. Which is kinda depressing...and a little pathetic...
We already knew that Beatrice didn't know that much about Hanners, that she smoked, drank or had her ears repeated pierced.
But really, its a sign of how out of touch that Beatrice is with her own daughter, given that the dossier is out of date and possesses the wrong information.
There's no evidence at all that Beatrice was involved in creating the dossier, as opposed to Little Creepazoid Stalker being sloppy at "research".
QuoteBut its also a sign of how desperate Tilly is to make a good first impression that she's based her enter strategy around wrong information. Which is kinda depressing...and a little pathetic...
I think it's more giving us further evidence that Tilly is overall incompetent at their purported job. So far, the only thing they've shown themselves competent at is 1) obeying unethical orders without hesitation and 2) bullying customer service reps into a bad deal. The actual PA functions? Zero for three.
It's "it"/"its" that are rude, because those pronouns, while actually singular and gender-neutral, are inanimate.
I honestly feel like Jeph made Tilly non-binary in an attempt to make them less vulnerable to hate. Like, I'm going to make them a giant asshole but then I'm going to add in this part as their hook and ignore the fact that this character is just amazingly grating.
Then over time, the character will become more likable. But not so much because we know them more but because they have stopped the bad behavior. Idk, meh.
And I do not find them cute. Maybe in the first introduction but then they kept talking lol.
Tilly could have been an interesting character, with a story that could have worked well in the QC-verse.
Unfortunately, first impressions linger far longer than we would like and Tilly's was less than stellar. Her introduction was somewhat clumsy and got rather tired rather quickly. Not only that, but it presented a long established character in a rather out of character manner for much of the arc. Add in the fact that this story has gone on for the best part of a month and I think this might be an arc we'll all try to pretend never happened, both for the reaction of the forum and the arc itself.
Of course, but the fact remains that those first impressions can and do linger, sometimes colouring our view of a character long after they were introduced.
Even before Tilly's revelation about themself, they were disliked by a number of people for being somewhat pushy, didn't listen to their new boss and placed themself in Hanners' life without discussing the situation beforehand. Even when realising they was working with incorrect information, Tilly is still somewhat intrusive. It just feels as though Tilly is superfluous to the needs of the comic, especially considering that there were other characters that could have fitted in the role and perhaps been a better fit for the story; such as Winslow (to pay back Hanners for the new chassis), May (to serve as PA/Bodyguard for Hanners. I mean, just imagine May in a situation like this (https://youtu.be/4oplJi8XCBA?t=2m) or Marigold or even Brun.
I said before that Tilly could have, and could still be, an interesting character, but their introduction has fallen flat. The story also feels a lot like a wasted opportunity and I think its going to haunt the character for a while. Its like telling a joke, you trip up at the beginning and you've lost the humour.
Anyway, here in Brasil, the few non-binary people I know pick a pronoum of their preference or just don't care if they're called "he" or "she". As far as I know, there is no spoken new pronoum for them, altough there were a few atempts in print (none of them really catch up).
I'm amused by the way so many posters on this forum were deliberately calling Tilly Taffy while knowing that wasn't their correct name, but have uniformly jumped into line when told to use gender-neutral pronouns.
Is that more important than getting somebody's name right?
I'll leave that question to the gender-variant people here but I'm prepared to believe a "yes" answer.
Think about the relative abjectness of the apologies you make when you misgender someone versus getting their name wrong.
Names don't have connotation, at least not first names. It's apart of the identity, but you can't look at a Tilly and project anything from that except perhaps maybe that their parents really liked 1980-1990's NYC type names. And even that doesn't tell you about the person.
Gender projects A LOT. I don't think I need to go into it, but there's a reason transgender and non binary people exist. We project a lot into other and ourselves based on the pronoun used. People prefer to have as few wrong things assumed about them within that brief first impression as is possible.
Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
CLEARLY an abomination to life and all matters culinary.
I think it's more giving us further evidence that Tilly is overall incompetent at their purported job.
In the sense of getting Hanners a new phone, Tilly was surprisingly successful and saved their boss the hassle of getting a new phone, so in that regard score one for Tilly.
All I can say is that, after all he has been through, Marten really, really ought to know better than to enable someone like Tilly. I mean, they're cute in their eagerness to succeed in this job but there has to be a line and Marten should be intuitive enough to have picked up on Hannelore's view of the situation.
In the sense of getting Hanners a new phone, Tilly was surprisingly successful and saved their boss the hassle of getting a new phone, so in that regard score one for Tilly.
OTOH, just recall why Hanners required a new phone at all.
Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
CLEARLY an abomination to life and all matters culinary.
*rolls eyes*
You have to add jalapeños or habaneros. It ties it all together quite nicely.
OTOH, just recall why Hanners required a new phone at all.
Nothing to do with Tilly...
That's exactly how I feel about it, as well, though perhaps more for the reaction than the arc itself.
I fully admit that this is my own personal bias/pet peeve. So in the spirit of the forums, I'll call it my head canon.
I reckon Jeoh has done this in an attempt to make you all think about the folly of leaping from an initial impression to instant character judgement.
Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
CLEARLY an abomination to life and all matters culinary.
I live in Sweden and I'm glad that we are starting to pick up a neutral pronoun "hen" (in contrast to han = he, and hon = she).***
I guess that's why the term they/them in singular confuses the hell out of me (on a purely linguistical way, mind you) because we already got a non-binary pronoun and leave the they/them for plurals only. :P
*** = Feel free to make any poultry jokes you like, cuz I can't come up with a single one.
Yeah... a singular would be a great addition to the language.
Y'see, I find this They/Them thing VERY difficult to take on, because for 50+ years I've been raised to think that calling someone THEY or THEM was unspeakably rude.
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Don't get me started on pizza and pineapple
CLEARLY an abomination to life and all matters culinary.
NO! I will have my Hawaii pizza!
I agree with Timemaster, btw. I'm enjoying this arc. It has all been played for laughs (see sig).
I have a name with an unusual spelling, so it is prone to misspelling.
I also have a high voice, so people sometimes mistake me as female over the phone (which can be a real problem when trying to establish that you are who you say you are).
You know what does not make me want to be gracious about respecting someone’s wishes when it comes to personal pronouns?They aren't wishes. They just are. Everyone's pronouns just are what they are. If you don't use them, you're an asshole. Full stop. It doesn't matter if you like them, or like what they do or how they act. You have a choice to use someone's minority status against them (like a bigot) or not. They don't have a choice in pronouns. Not really. Not like you think.
This sequence feels to me painfully overextended, uninteresting, and as if I’m being forceably “playfully” elbowed to the effect of “this wacky new character sure is loveable for such an unwanted annoyance right RIGHT especially because TOLERANCE right RIGHT?!?!”Not everyone is going to like every character. Showing different types of people isn't pushing some nefarious agenda about "tolerance". You sure seem worked up about this. Have you considered reading a comic that's got nothing but straight white men in it so you can be comfortable again?
Finnish is handy in that, we only have one singular 3rd person pronoun, "Hän". Altho' the colloquial use of "Se", which originally means "It", is sadly getting more approval.In dutch we have zij/hen/hun (she & they / them & chick / their), so that's what I kept in mind when I was questioning being non-binary.
About today's comic, is this Hanners punishing herself for calling their name wrong, Bart Simpson style?
If you call me "cisgender", then I am offended. I do not accept this silly term, as it is one that was applied to me without my consent.
Or, to put it another way, a straight person might say they're offended by someone describing them as "heterosexual", but it doesn't change the fact that they, y'know, ARE heterosexual.
Or, to put it another way, a straight person might say they're offended by someone describing them as "heterosexual", but it doesn't change the fact that they, y'know, ARE heterosexual.
I would suppose, that a straight person could be offended to be called "a heterosexual" as if that's all they are, however if they're called "a heterosexual person" that wouldn't be the case. (feel free to change "heterosexual" with anything)
Marten should be intuitive enough to have picked up on Hannelore's view of the situation.As an intuition-challenged person I find this offensive.
Would you ever consider not respecting a cis person's pronouns because you didn't like them? That tends to be something only even thought of for nonbinary and trans people.Clearly you were:
I presume that not calling Tilly by their name was okay was a) because it was a running gag and b) she's not actually that likable as a character. Which made her the Other, the corporate drone, Beatrices brainwashed leash sicced on Hannelore - less than human. When they asked for their correct name? Fuck them, they didn't deserve it.
Tilly asking for the correct pronouns, however, makes them human to a lot of people here. Suddenly, the first time someone uses the wrong ones they get corrected.
It is hilarious, though, and hypocritical. I still think the arc/character aren't great, and Tilly isn't sympathetic to me, but that was/is hilarious to watch.
Of course refusing someone their name is just as dehumanising as denying them their pronouns, if not more so; it is their identity, after all.
Holy crap I used her a few times. Not on purpose though; I'll change it up right away, but that was a mistake.I presume that not calling Tilly by their name was okay was a) because it was a running gag and b) they're not actually that likable as a character. Which made them the Other, the corporate drone, Beatrices brainwashed leash sicced on Hannelore - less than human. When they asked for their correct name? Fuck them, they didn't deserve it.
Tilly asking for the correct pronouns, however, makes them human to a lot of people here. Suddenly, the first time someone uses the wrong ones they get corrected.
It is hilarious, though, and hypocritical. I still think the arc/character aren't great, and Tilly isn't sympathetic to me, but that was/is hilarious to watch.
Of course refusing someone their name is just as dehumanising as denying them their pronouns, if not more so; it is their identity, after all.
It is also about respect. Respect is one of those human qualities where you don't have to like someone but you can still show respect. It costs nothing, it hurts no one and its still the right thing to do.
Tilly might not be a particularly popular character, but the instant they say what pronouns they would like people to use, respect that request. Yes, they might be a fictional character, but it is still a good habit to develop. We have a number of non-binary people on the forum, and misgendering people shows them disrespect as well, which frankly riles me up more than Tilly has.
People don't ask for a lot in life, just a little respect and it goes a long way. Those who are quite aggressive in the forum are the exception, not the rule and hopefully things will calm down in the next couple of days and hopefully they will remember that respect goes both ways. If they can't show it, they won't get it.
Then it was "black" that was the PC thing to say, then that became a racist term and the new thing was "African American", except now that's not PC, because many black people don't come from Africa, and visiting Africans take offense to being called "African American, and the proper term is once again "black".
Is the character, that seems to irritate a number of people like the high pitched whine of a mosquito in the room, getting shorter?
Standing on her hands with arms extended she is as long tall as Marten is tall [double checks spelling]
in german this would make no sense grammatically. The plural form of almost everything uses the female pronoun “die” (Die Gruppe = the group), with only very few male and neutral exceptions (Der Schwarm = the swarm; Das Quartett = the quartet). And with neutral I mean the plural form of "it".
I don't know how german non-binary people go about this stuff. I would assume that most of them just use the gendered pronoun they feel more comfortable with, but that is nothing more than speculation on my part.
Would you ever consider not respecting a cis person's pronouns because you didn't like them? That tends to be something only even thought of for nonbinary and trans people.
The way Tilly talks about the dossier, "Oh. Yes. Right. That was in the dossier. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3618)" And "... The dossier led me to believe. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3623)" Strongly suggests they did not write it. So when they say they've done the research (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3608), they probably mean that they read the document someone else compiled and told them to read.
You know, I just thought of an obvious candidate for the author of the dossier. Someone who knows Hannelore from childhood, who would have no trouble churning out 900 pages of trivia about her, and who would not be above including a number of deliberate errors in order to troll Beatrice.
That person is Station.
On today's page: Bad Tilly, bad! That's not standing on your head, that's a handstand!
My first response to Tilly was "we are supposed to ship this with Winslow?"
I have a name with an unusual spelling, so it is prone to misspelling.IDK, let's ask Ensign Sue. ;)
I also have a high voice, so people sometimes mistake me as female over the phone (which can be a real problem when trying to establish that you are who you say you are).
I find the latter more annoying, but maybe because that is rarer.
On a different topic: is a comic with an annoying character a bad comic?
Bonus points for including Star Trek in your answer. ;)
Would you ever consider not respecting a cis person's pronouns because you didn't like them? That tends to be something only even thought of for nonbinary and trans people.*points at my name in proceeding response*
You know what does not make me want to be gracious about respecting someone’s wishes when it comes to personal pronouns?
Tilly is growing on me, at least. :-DYeah, like ringworm.
Tilly is growing on me, at least. :-DYeah, like ringworm.
In re Pronouns - "They" in its various forms is too useful as a plural to dilute by using it as a singular. I've been using as a neuter singular it in writing for 30 years and still find it awkward. English needs a new neuter singular pronoun. So, why not nominate one?
Strips like QC really are on the bleeding edge of change as far as how language is used.
The singular they had emerged by the 14th century and is common in everyday spoken English, but its use has been the target of criticism since the late 19th century. Its use in formal English has increased with the trend toward gender-inclusive language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
Tilly is growing on me, at least. :-DYeah, like ringworm.
Bleeding softly, that edge ...
The difference with the most of the examples people have given in response to my post is that the context is, "I'm calling you what you're not to insult you." Which is shitty for multiple reasons in itself. They're also specifically nouns and name calling.
Some people have mentioned what are genuine errors that happen with frequency due to societal assumptions. Which again are sucky.
The specific instance I was replying to:You know what does not make me want to be gracious about respecting someone’s wishes when it comes to personal pronouns?
And generally when trans and nonbinary people are misgendered, specifically with pronoun use, is the implication that, "I'm calling you what I think you actually are and to call you what you want is at best a misguided courtesy (which I will only do if I feel like it) and at worst is indulging a delusion."
In the general area of modes of address and reference: is anyone else bothered by Tilly's referring to "Miss" Ellicott-Chatham?
Station probably legitimately doesn't understand human social mores about privacy, and would thus probably answer very comprehensively to a relatively legitimate request for so, "Hey, can we have some information about Hannelore so we can choose a good assistant for her?"
In the general area of modes of address and reference: is anyone else bothered by Tilly's referring to "Miss" Ellicott-Chatham?
He does know enough about human expectations to put a hologram sock on a doorknob when the people inside are being intimate.But not enough to know it was inappropriate to publicize an employee's exhibitionist exploits at work without being chastised for it after the fact.
And there was a time it was considered the politically correct thing to say...
Then it was "black" that was the PC thing to say, then that became a racist term and the new thing was "African American", except now that's not PC, because many black people don't come from Africa, and visiting Africans take offense to being called "African American, and the proper term is once again "black".
I once encountered someone who said he'd been told off by someone online for referring to himself as "black" and not "African American". He was British. :PIs the character, that seems to irritate a number of people like the high pitched whine of a mosquito in the room, getting shorter?
Standing on her hands with arms extended she is as long tall as Marten is tall [double checks spelling]
I was thinking that Marten looks as though he's shrunk a bit - his waist and legs seem shorter than usual.
True of lots of people who have (allegedly) been human all their lives. ;)He does know enough about human expectations to put a hologram sock on a doorknob when the people inside are being intimate.But not enough to know it was inappropriate to publicize an employee's exhibitionist exploits at work without being chastised for it after the fact.
I'd call Station's social perspective "undependable."
You just want spathe ham.
In the general area of modes of address and reference: is anyone else bothered by Tilly's referring to "Miss" Ellicott-Chatham?
Taff...uh, Tilly's repeated addressing of Hanners as "ma'am" has me wondering - are they the Marcie to Hanners' Peppermint Patty?
In the general area of modes of address and reference: is anyone else bothered by Tilly's referring to "Miss" Ellicott-Chatham?
Taff...uh, Tilly's repeated addressing of Hanners as "ma'am" has me wondering - are they the Marcie to Hanners' Peppermint Patty?
STOP CALLING ME SIR!