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Title: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Jan 2018, 15:33
I'm pretty sure that there is a larger plot significance to Amanda's sudden appearance on Friday, probably something to do with Faye's ongoing character arc vis her relationship with Bubbles. However, there has to be an in universe reason and this poll is to see what forumites would like it to be.

Personally, I like the idea of her having enrolled at some course at Smif College. It would be interesting to give her reason to interact with Marten and Tai in the library and possibly Claire if, as a senior post-grad, she's been given a role of a counsellor or adviser for freshmen students. I could see Claire as being a well-intentioned but somewhat chaotic influence due to her tendency to ship and her constant need to make puns at random intervals.

As for this week, I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering; just a week of Faye/Amanda interaction with mutual wise-cracks and possibly some introduction to Amanda's SO.


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Corrected error in subject line
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Tova on 07 Jan 2018, 15:42
I'm refraining from voting, for reasons that may occur to you. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Jan 2018, 17:29
They'll figure out about Evie soon enough.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Jan 2018, 17:31
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: celticgeek on 07 Jan 2018, 18:57
Stupefyingly naive sister, and Evie, have arrived.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 07 Jan 2018, 19:13
I figure that the drama is that they are already married, Evie has a job in the area and lil sis needs help getting them settled etc and finding a job for herself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Jan 2018, 19:17
I figure that the drama is that they are already married, Evie has a job in the area and lil sis needs help getting them settled etc and finding a job for herself.

I doubt it, Evie is presenting a paper at SMIF and they're only there for the day.

There doesn't need to be any outside drama, Amanda is the kind of person who just generates it wherever she goes, just by not taking a second to think.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 07 Jan 2018, 19:31
I can't wait until Evie and Amanda see Faye and Bubbles together.

"They are TOTALLY dating!"

"We are NOT!"

"Hey, is BUBBLES BLUSHING?!"

"I am not!" the blushing Bubbles lied.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Jan 2018, 19:37
Evie seems to have an idea already what she's getting into with Amanda.  Amanda apparently still has some maturing to do.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: A Duck on 07 Jan 2018, 21:12
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: brasca on 07 Jan 2018, 21:14
I can't wait until Evie and Amanda see Faye and Bubbles together.

"They are TOTALLY dating!"

"We are NOT!"

"Hey, is BUBBLES BLUSHING?!"

"I am not!" the blushing Bubbles lied.

Exactly.  Amanda will be this chapter's Tilly.  She's an outsider who will be the catalyst for the next stage of Bubbles' and Faye's relationship. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 07 Jan 2018, 21:37
I like Evie.

"That's me.  I'm Evie."  For some reason it just made me laugh.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 07 Jan 2018, 21:42
Yep, they're an item alright.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: mercykills on 07 Jan 2018, 22:09
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

Well, shit, sure I can. That is, if I don't want to meet my deadlines, if I want to lose the trust of my clients, and if I never want to eat, again. WHY NOT!?!

Ok, that last one may be hyperbole since developers are always in demand but if you want to stay your own boss, then, no matter your skillset, you will only be as good as your word. And your word = your work. And, as an independent, good work will always take a significant percentage of your time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Jan 2018, 23:19
Ah, the wonders of someone who is still in full-time education and has no conception of how life actually works! I'm not criticising Amanda here; she likely really does have no reason to know just how difficult it is being self-employed.

Evie is an interesting one isn't she? When you're creating a SO for an existing character, the temptation is to make them basically something one-dimensional that makes the established character look good. What is different here is that I suspect Evie is the smart one and Amanda is the adornment who possibly needs help not to get overwhelmed by the world; this is not the normal thing you see in fiction.

Now, am I the only one who thinks that Jeph had been staring at his pile of bills and his very long 'to do' list when he wrote this comic? :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 08 Jan 2018, 00:21
Wait until these two get a whiff of Faye's business partner. I expect great things from them for the bubbles-Faye thread. Terrible perhaps, yes. But great nonetheless.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: oddtail on 08 Jan 2018, 00:31
But that's EXACTLY how it works! Clearly.

If you need some free time, you give yourself a day off.

And if you're short on money, you give yourself a raise  :-D

(also, personally, I couldn't be exclusively self-employed. I'd get fired.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Jan 2018, 01:00
Somewhere between girlfriend and handler.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2018, 01:15
Wait until these two get a whiff of Faye's business partner. I expect great things from them for the bubbles-Faye thread. Terrible perhaps, yes. But great nonetheless.

I'm guessing that Amanda will do something like dare Faye to 'dress up' tomorrow, in universe. Amanda's argument will be that, if Faye and Bubbles are just 'best friends' as Faye insists, then Bubbles' most likely reaction will be: "Why on Earth are you all dressed up like that?" Faye agrees and the outcome is... instructive, one way or the other.

Somewhere between girlfriend and handler.

Which, when you think about it, is something of a theme in QC. In the main cast, Tai, Claire and Marten both have similar roles in their SO's lives. In the background cast, Penny is a bit like that for Wil and Steve for Cossette.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Jan 2018, 02:09
Good morning, all! (^-^) [or whatever time of day it happens to be for you]

If you happen to live in the continental United States or in Canada, there's a good chance your roads are frozen over thanks to yesterdays precipitation.
Might I suggest driving slower, giving yourself extra space between you and the car ahead, along with giving yourself at least an extra 50 ft to stop?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TinPenguin on 08 Jan 2018, 03:58
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

"Oh, you work nights? Must be nice to have all that free time in the day!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 08 Jan 2018, 06:52
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

"Oh, you work nights? Must be nice to have all that free time in the day!"
Or you work at home and people don't realize you've taken your lunch hour off to attend a meeting, and now must get "back to work"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Jan 2018, 06:57
The truest statement I've heard about self employment is 'You get to choose what 16 hours a day you work!'. Though honestly that depends on what you actually do for a living.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: JimC on 08 Jan 2018, 08:14
The other problem is that you never get any time to yourself away from the boss...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: dutchrvl on 08 Jan 2018, 09:28
The other problem is that you never get any time to yourself away from the boss...

^This. My main problem, and why I don't want my PT freelance business to become anything more than just some side income, is that I would find it extremely challenging to actually step away from the work and just relax without thinking constantly about everything that needs to be done.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 08 Jan 2018, 09:48
If you happen to live in the continental United States or in Canada, there's a good chance your roads are frozen over thanks to yesterdays precipitation.
Might I suggest driving slower, giving yourself extra space between you and the car ahead, along with giving yourself at least an extra 50 ft to stop?
50 feet?  :?   [calls up the translation app] Ah so 15 meters

Also you better have snow tires or slow down even further because your stopping distance increases to guardrail, lamp post, ditch or the ever popular police car fender.

I normally use the 3 second rule under regular driving conditions
(click to show/hide)
but with today's weather and road conditions it is supposed to be at least 9 seconds when traveling at speed .... that translates into about [does some higher math] 2 meters on average or just far enough behind to see their tail lights flicker off when they take their foot off the brake pedal to start to move and yet close enough not to encourage the [censored] to nose in after passing everyone on the right exit lane. This is one of the many reasons why a very specific vehicle is on my must get list for city driving.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 08 Jan 2018, 13:46
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

"Oh, you work nights? Must be nice to have all that free time in the day!"
Or they call at 10:00 AM.  "Oh!  Did I wake you?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Clovis Man on 08 Jan 2018, 15:42
My first (and probably lasting) impression of Amanda is that of a First Class Ditz.[1]  I doubt she has any clue about how the real world works (or the consequences of stealing Mom's credit card)... Just a moment...  Just a moment... Can we say 'dropped in at the deep end', boys and girls?

[1] One example, from my days as a convenience store manager.
Image: Two teenage girls trying to figure out how to open the fuel filler door on the brand new Mustang convertible daddy just bought one of them.
My comment to co-worker: "They do outgrow that, don't they?"
Co-worker: "Ghod, I hope so."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Akima on 08 Jan 2018, 16:25
Well, shit, sure I can. That is, if I don't want to meet my deadlines, if I want to lose the trust of my clients, and if I never want to eat, again. WHY NOT!?!
And if you're self-employed you're always, always insecure about continuity of work. And your boss is always in the room, looking over your shoulder.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Jan 2018, 17:23
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

"Oh, you work nights? Must be nice to have all that free time in the day!"
Then there's being expected to keep "normal people hours" on the weekend.

Not to mention the hassel of having upstairs neighbors. Especially if they have young kids that love to run full tilt through the apartment, or lawn care guys that show up everyday during the weekend.

*just falling asleep*
*THUMP THUMP THUMP! THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP!*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Jan 2018, 17:31
If you happen to live in the continental United States or in Canada, there's a good chance your roads are frozen over thanks to yesterdays precipitation.
Might I suggest driving slower, giving yourself extra space between you and the car ahead, along with giving yourself at least an extra 50 ft to stop?
50 feet?  :?   [calls up the translation app] Ah so 15 meters

Also you better have snow tires or slow down even further because your stopping distance increases to guardrail, lamp post, ditch or the ever popular police car fender.

I normally use the 3 second rule under regular driving conditions
(click to show/hide)
but with today's weather and road conditions it is supposed to be at least 9 seconds when traveling at speed .... that translates into about [does some higher math] 2 meters on average or just far enough behind to see their tail lights flicker off when they take their foot off the brake pedal to start to move and yet close enough not to encourage the [censored] to nose in after passing everyone on the right exit lane. This is one of the many reasons why a very specific vehicle is on my must get list for city driving.  :-D

I drive in Kansas City°, myself (most of the worst drivers have Missouri plates), so I understand wanting to 'Mad Max' one's own vehicle with some well placed meter long (3ft) spikes and a pneumatic ram on either side.

°Both sides of the state line are counted as one entry for the 10 worst cities to drive in in the USA.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 08 Jan 2018, 18:04
I like Evie.

"That's me.  I'm Evie."  For some reason it just made me laugh.

I like Evie too. Also, "Isn't she adorable?" sounds more like Evie has adopted a puppy rather than gained a girlfriend  :laugh:

edit: Oh, also voted "other" simply because I don't think there's anything particularly significant about this visit.
Something like: Evie tells Amanda about presenting her paper at SMIF, Amanda says, "SMIF's in Northhampton? My sister lives in Northhampton! Haven't seen her in years - what say I tag along?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Jan 2018, 18:53
Ah those Whitakers, missing the obvious when its smacking them in the face.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Jan 2018, 18:57
Anyone think there's a chance Evie is Renee's sister?  After all when she first appeared Renee was Faye's Secret Bakery analog, so it would kind of make sense for her to have  a lesbian younger sister.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: A Duck on 08 Jan 2018, 19:58
Anyone think there's a chance Evie is Renee's sister?  After all when she first appeared Renee was Faye's Secret Bakery analog, so it would kind of make sense for her to have  a lesbian younger sister.

This is my headcanon now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Jan 2018, 21:52
Anyone think there's a chance Evie is Renee's sister?  After all when she first appeared Renee was Faye's Secret Bakery analog, so it would kind of make sense for her to have  a lesbian younger sister.
Nope.

She's Padma's sister.

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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: professor_iago on 08 Jan 2018, 21:54
Um, is "psychology" misspelled in 3652?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Elder Sign on 08 Jan 2018, 23:08
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.
The truest statement I've heard about self employment is 'You get to choose what 16 hours a day you work!'. Though honestly that depends on what you actually do for a living.
The other problem is that you never get any time to yourself away from the boss...
And if you're self-employed you're always, always insecure about continuity of work. And your boss is always in the room, looking over your shoulder.

All of this and more is why I hope to never touch self-employment and the "entrepreneurship" world with a 40-kilometre pole.  It's a massive ball of 24/7 overwork, overstress, insecurity, perpetual instability, and general not-having-a-life-anymore that, even with the fleeting moments of accomplishment mixed in, it just isn't worth it.

I know everyone in the business world seems to be pushing the "gig economy" as the one true way to be successful, but from where I stand, no amount of independent cash flow is worth driving yourself crazy and utterly exhausted in the process.

The people who legitimately enjoy and derive satisfaction from living on the edge can go right ahead, but I'll stay over here.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2018, 23:24
Okay, relationship bad sign here: Amanda didn't think to mention Evie again, even though she has apparently guessed Faye doesn't read her electronic messages. I mean, I can be absent-minded so I don't have grounds to stand and preach. However, I would have expected Amanda to have gushed about her new girlfriend at least once to her big sister during their conversations. Either Amanda is easily distracted or Evie isn't that big a deal for her.

That aside, I am going to make a controversial prediction: Evie is going to be joining the cast in at least a supporting role. The fact that she's studying AI psychology makes her ideal as a foil and driving force for Jeph's current interest in exploring the lore of AI in his universe. I'm guessing that Amanda and Evie will have an argument and break up (possibly in the current arc). Meanwhile, the professors at Smif are so impressed that they offer her tenure as soon as the paperwork is done on her PhD, so she stays in Northampton when Amanda goes back to Savannah.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: mercykills on 08 Jan 2018, 23:34
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.

Right!? I hate it when people say, "O, you work from home, can't you do "X, Y, Z" for me?" or "I envy you, you can take off whenever you want."

"Oh, you work nights? Must be nice to have all that free time in the day!"

YEP! 'Cause people who work nights are robots who don't need to sleep, at all.  :roll:

Well, shit, sure I can. That is, if I don't want to meet my deadlines, if I want to lose the trust of my clients, and if I never want to eat, again. WHY NOT!?!
And if you're self-employed you're always, always insecure about continuity of work. And your boss is always in the room, looking over your shoulder.

Right?!!? And Fate forbid, if you have any anxiety issues or other mental disorders because everything gets dialed up to eleven in your head. Your boss(brain) screams, "you're always neglecting the details and missing the bigger picture!". All you do is wrong. 

Ugh. To be left alone with my own thoughts was one of the scariest things to deal with,  BEFORE I left school. Now, it's just a waking nightmare that breaks me, more often than not.

Um, is "psychology" misspelled in 3652?

Yes. Yes, it is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 09 Jan 2018, 00:07
This is more of a gut reaction than actual critique but I’m a little ticked off about Faye’s choice of words.

"How long you been bangin’ my sister?"

Really? Is that how you talk to someone you’ve just met? Especially if it’s the new SO of your sibling?
'Nice to meet you.' - 'What do you do for a living?' - 'How long have you been fucking my sister?'
I mean, yes, Faye is a little bit blunt most of the time, and Evie seems to be cool with the question, but come on…

And also, yeah, I could never be self-employed. I can’t even organise my hobbies properly. Me being my own boss would be pure horror…
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Jan 2018, 00:15
"How long you been bangin’ my sister?"

Really? Is that how you talk to someone you’ve just met? Especially if it’s the new SO of your sibling?

This is just how Faye talks to everyone, including people she's only just met. It's the way she is, for better or for worse.

That said, she is in a bad mood because of Amanda being... well... herself and another unfortunate personality characteristic of hers is she spreads her bad mood around everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: JimC on 09 Jan 2018, 02:10
I know everyone in the business world seems to be pushing the "gig economy" as the one true way to be successful,

Don't confuse the "gig economy" with self employment. The "gig economy" is just the old evils/abuses of piece work/casual labour revisited, its nothing to do with proper self employment. [at this point I was starting to type a long political diatribe, but this isn't the place].

There is a lot to be said for self employment for the right person in the right situation.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TinPenguin on 09 Jan 2018, 02:15
Okay, relationship bad sign here: Amanda didn't think to mention Evie again, even though she has apparently guessed Faye doesn't read her electronic messages. I mean, I can be absent-minded so I don't have grounds to stand and preach. However, I would have expected Amanda to have gushed about her new girlfriend at least once to her big sister during their conversations. Either Amanda is easily distracted or Evie isn't that big a deal for her.

Eh, I didn't discuss my partner with my sister for well over six months, until one day she asked me "So, have you still got your girlfriend in [region]?" and it turned out the grapevine is more proactive than I am. Sometimes, a new relationship is none of anybody's business. On the other hand, Amanda had made the first step of trying to tell Faye, so you'd think she'd have crossed the mental line of keeping mum.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: blt on 09 Jan 2018, 03:53
That seems like an unusually rude way to phrase it, even for Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Cornelius on 09 Jan 2018, 04:37
Okay, relationship bad sign here: Amanda didn't think to mention Evie again, even though she has apparently guessed Faye doesn't read her electronic messages. I mean, I can be absent-minded so I don't have grounds to stand and preach. However, I would have expected Amanda to have gushed about her new girlfriend at least once to her big sister during their conversations. Either Amanda is easily distracted or Evie isn't that big a deal for her.

Eh, I didn't discuss my partner with my sister for well over six months, until one day she asked me "So, have you still got your girlfriend in [region]?" and it turned out the grapevine is more proactive than I am. Sometimes, a new relationship is none of anybody's business. On the other hand, Amanda had made the first step of trying to tell Faye, so you'd think she'd have crossed the mental line of keeping mum.

Personally, I think the family resemblance remark may be a worse sign.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 09 Jan 2018, 06:46
In my case my self employment is born of necessity rather than desire. I worked for the same company I was working for before starting it... but I was moving cross country and I'm not physically fit enough to do the 8-5 thing in an office anymore. So now I typically work 10-14 hours a day plus some weekend time at home technically as an 'independent contractor' for my job. I don't particularly like it and I never really sought it out but it's what I stumbled into/got stuck with and it's better than being unemployed or literally hobbling into work every day hoping I don't collapse.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: themacnut on 09 Jan 2018, 09:50
Oh god, this thing about self employment hits WAY too close to home, specially the comment at the bottom of the comic.
The truest statement I've heard about self employment is 'You get to choose what 16 hours a day you work!'. Though honestly that depends on what you actually do for a living.
The other problem is that you never get any time to yourself away from the boss...
And if you're self-employed you're always, always insecure about continuity of work. And your boss is always in the room, looking over your shoulder.

All of this and more is why I hope to never touch self-employment and the "entrepreneurship" world with a 40-kilometre pole.  It's a massive ball of 24/7 overwork, overstress, insecurity, perpetual instability, and general not-having-a-life-anymore that, even with the fleeting moments of accomplishment mixed in, it just isn't worth it.

No doubt self-employment is more difficult than working for someone else in many ways, hence why people generally prefer, and tend to be better at, working for someone else. But there are a growing number of people, like Neko-Ali above, for whom it's either self-employment or unemployment. The way the economy keeps changing, with increasing automation everywhere and employers of all types and sizes trying to keep their payroll at the absolute minimum, the ranks of these people will only grow. And any one of us could find ourselves joining them at any point in the future; secure employment is so last century.

Faye's sister, poor naive soul that she is, may find this out the hard way herself.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 09 Jan 2018, 10:25
"How long you been bangin’ my sister?"

Really? Is that how you talk to someone you’ve just met? Especially if it’s the new SO of your sibling?
When you're Faye Whitaker, abso-freakin'-lutely.

The Whitaker clan is a steaming kettle of unresolved dysfunction - her father suicided in front of one of his kids, for cryin' out loud.  Wherever two or more of them are gathered, there is chaos, or at the very least very high volume disorder, and it will always be that way.

(I'm having a Scott Adams Dilbert moment with this arc, the distinct feeling that Jeph is writing about people I've had to deal with all too often.  I can't help but wonder if he knows these families, even though that's impossible.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: brasca on 09 Jan 2018, 10:28
Okay, relationship bad sign here: Amanda didn't think to mention Evie again, even though she has apparently guessed Faye doesn't read her electronic messages. I mean, I can be absent-minded so I don't have grounds to stand and preach. However, I would have expected Amanda to have gushed about her new girlfriend at least once to her big sister during their conversations. Either Amanda is easily distracted or Evie isn't that big a deal for her.

Eh, I didn't discuss my partner with my sister for well over six months, until one day she asked me "So, have you still got your girlfriend in [region]?" and it turned out the grapevine is more proactive than I am. Sometimes, a new relationship is none of anybody's business. On the other hand, Amanda had made the first step of trying to tell Faye, so you'd think she'd have crossed the mental line of keeping mum.

It’s also possible Amanda didn’t want to to talk about her love life just after Faye’s came to an abrupt end and lead to a downward spiral she’s still climbing out of. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 09 Jan 2018, 13:05
Or she could have taken Faye's non-response to her DMs as a sign of Faye being somehow uncomfortable/disapproving and therefore didn't bring it up again.

It ISN'T, obviously, but people can think funny things sometimes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 09 Jan 2018, 13:38
Side note: has no one commented on the text at the bottom of the comic yet?  :psyduck:

I have a student who neglected to tell her siblings she was pregnant until too late.

Sort of.

She didn't neglect to tell them so much as she couldn't tell them what she wasn't aware of.  First she knew she had a baby on the way, she... had a baby rather *immediately* on the way.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Welu on 09 Jan 2018, 14:35
When I was a child, I didn't know my aunt was pregnant till the baby was born. Although I deliberately wasn't told because she had multiple miscarriages and my parents wanted to avoid having the, "A baby was on the way but now they're not for reasons." conversation with me. As an adult, I've told and learned about other big life events long after they happened with friends who live far away (or nearby but don't meet in person often) but we constantly have casual conversations through social media. During the event you're experiencing it and after you're dealing with possible aftermath or processing it yourself. By the time you're ready or think of telling a specific person, it can feel weird to be like, "Hey, this big positive/negative thing happened to me days/weeks/months ago."

~~~~

On the comic, I like Evie. I also like how Amanda turning up spontaneously echoes the first time she showed up just as Faye was going to work.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 09 Jan 2018, 19:24
I am acquainted with those moments. I wish it was easier to donate my uterus to a woman who actually wants the thing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 09 Jan 2018, 20:08
Comic!  Reading this makes me wonder how much older Evie is than Amanda.  It's really hard to tell in the QCverse how much time has passed, but I'm pretty sure Amanda was 18 when we last saw her.  So, if two years have passed she's 20 or 21. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Jan 2018, 20:12
Comic!  Reading this makes me wonder how much older Evie is than Amanda.  It's really hard to tell in the QCverse how much time has passed, but I'm pretty sure Amanda was 18 when we last saw her.  So, if two years have passed she's 20 or 21.

That'd mean Evie is probably somewhere around 24-25. Older than Claire, younger than Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 09 Jan 2018, 20:27
Amanda, you just probably upset your girlfriend...  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 09 Jan 2018, 20:44
I LOVE EVIE.  PLEASE SAY WE CAN KEEP HER!!!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 09 Jan 2018, 21:16
Amanda, you just probably upset your girlfriend...  :cry:

Or her girlfriend knows that Amanda isn't thinking about marriage right now and isn't being serious.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: brasca on 09 Jan 2018, 21:29
Careful Faye.  I can see the inevitable tour of Union Robotics a chance for Amanda to get some payback.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: citizenfive on 09 Jan 2018, 21:37
And with that, there goes one poll option! I think?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Tova on 09 Jan 2018, 21:42
All of them are ruled out I think, decent guesses though they were.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Jan 2018, 21:49
And with that, there goes one poll option! I think?
Alternate possibility* is that Amanda is upset because she did intend to propose and Faye spoiled the surprise.

*not really
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 09 Jan 2018, 22:18
Damn, Evie took that set-up and RAN with it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Jan 2018, 23:09
Bit of a Freudian moment there in panel 3. No, no-one is talking about marriage and Faye probably had meant 'part of the family' in a broader sense than that. However, it's obvious that Evie has been thinking of it and would welcome it. It is also very obvious that Amanda has been thinking about it and has been wrong-footed by the realisation that he wasn't the only one who was doing so! :-D

It's sweet in a way, when you think about it: In essence, Faye has just told Evie that being in a relationship with Amanda is enough for her to be 'part of the family'. I think it tells you a lot about how warm-hearted Faye is under the armour plating and broken glass in which she shrouds her psyche to avoid being hurt. :-)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 10 Jan 2018, 03:26
I am acquainted with those moments. I wish it was easier to donate my uterus to a woman who actually wants the thing.

Not sure we've made the medical advances required for that quite yet. I'd have to do some research, but I'm guessing it's mostly due to the stress of childbirth on the scarring sites where the donated tissue is attached to the native tissue.

For the time being, you can donate your eggs and/or have a hysterectomy if you so choose.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 10 Jan 2018, 04:33
It can and has been done:  http://time.com/5044565/exclusive-first-u-s-baby-born-after-a-uterus-transplant/ (http://time.com/5044565/exclusive-first-u-s-baby-born-after-a-uterus-transplant/)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Welu on 10 Jan 2018, 08:45
For the time being, you can donate your eggs and/or have a hysterectomy if you so choose.

Theoretically. I'm not familiar with egg donation but you need to fit a lot of criteria to be able to do it and it's very hard to find a doctor that will assist you through the process, of any kind of elective sterilisation, if you're not looking for a vasectomy specifically. Especially if you're under 35ish and haven't already had multiple children.

Edit to add that people with penises do get refused vasectomies, but to my knowledge it's nowhere on the scale for people with uteruses getting refused equivalent procedures.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 10 Jan 2018, 08:53
In some cases, it can even be difficult to find a doctor to assist you with necessary procedures that would result in sterilization of a person with a uterus/ovaries!  "Sure, your periods are so heavy they're causing you to be severely anemic and your PCOS makes it unlikely for you to be able to have a healthy pregnancy, but are you *sure* you don't want BABIES!???!!?!?  What if you get married and your husband wants (more) kids?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Pennepasta on 10 Jan 2018, 11:40

Theoretically. I'm not familiar with egg donation but you need to fit a lot of criteria to be able to do it and it's very hard to find a doctor that will assist you through the process, of any kind of elective sterilisation, if you're not looking for a vasectomy specifically. Especially if you're under 35ish and haven't already had multiple children.

Edit to add that people with penises do get refused vasectomies, but to my knowledge it's nowhere on the scale for people with uteruses getting refused equivalent procedures.

The entire furore regarding sterilization is nuts. We looked into it, realized that it would be much, much easier for me to get sterilized than my partner (more reliable and cheaper, as they refuse to do actual sterilization on women on the NHS, just going with the worst method because it's easier to undo), and we were amazed at how easy it was, particularly with us both being under 30. Probably just the doctor we ended up seeing, but no "are you SURE?" or "But you might break up!" Or "You'll change your minds!!", just a check that our reasons were sensible from the first doctor, then the standard spiel about it being irreversible from the actual doctor at the clinic. The latter of which he had to go through with me both times I was in, despite doing it the first time :P On the flip side, I've got a friend with severe (genetic based, afaik) Arthritis who can't get a Vasectomy, though I don't know if they just said the wrong things to their doctor or what. Quite often, it makes me glad that I've got some parts of life on easymode due to having a penis (though, of course, it's only some), though I then get annoyed at how crappy it is that others don't get similar treatment.

But it's MUCH healthier for women to be perpetually on medication with a list of side effects longer than most peoples' arms - half of which, such as MH ones, don't get mentioned at all, even when people on said medication have MH illnesses - than to lose out on even a miniscule chance of having kids, even if it kills them. The entire culture around contraception, sterilization, and having babies needs to flipping well change. Would any other medication with such a list of side effects as the pill get through any kind of screening? I severely doubt it, but it's a given that the majority of women will be on one of the many types of hormonal contraception at some point, and many will be on it for, what, 30 years? More? Even disregarding the contraception issue, people are put on it for regulating periods to some extent, and people are criminally underinformed regarding the side effects. Then we get to the fact that many NHS trusts don't offer any female sterilization at all now. If they do, it's stupid clips, not actual sterilization. "Not cost effective" - but it's a damn sight cheaper than even one kid's child maintenance for sixteen years!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 10 Jan 2018, 17:47
Damn, Evie took that set-up and RAN with it.

Yep, that was such a classy response - I said I liked this Evie before, and I see no reason to change my opinion  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 10 Jan 2018, 19:15
For the time being, you can donate your eggs and/or have a hysterectomy if you so choose.

Theoretically. I'm not familiar with egg donation but you need to fit a lot of criteria to be able to do it and it's very hard to find a doctor that will assist you through the process, of any kind of elective sterilisation, if you're not looking for a vasectomy specifically. Especially if you're under 35ish and haven't already had multiple children.

Edit to add that people with penises do get refused vasectomies, but to my knowledge it's nowhere on the scale for people with uteruses getting refused equivalent procedures.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't that partially because a vasectomy is minor surgery that is much easier to reverse while a tubal ligation is major surgery, more expensive, requires more recovery time, is harder to reverse, has forty times the risk of mortality (4 out of 100,000 instead of 1 out of  1,000,000) and  in every way more drastic?

Maybe things will change if non-surgical sterilization clears FDA trials.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 10 Jan 2018, 20:13
Nobody wants my eggs. My genetics are a crime scene.
It is riskier-any surgery is-but I have no intention of using it (People nagging about kids? Tell them you hate the sound of a child's laughter. They'll never ask again).

Re:Comic. I, uh, kind of want to read Evie's thesis on Post Singularity Psychology.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: St.Clair on 10 Jan 2018, 21:48
Comic's up.

Do a littel dnace
Maek a littel lvoe
Get dwon tonigt
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Jan 2018, 23:14
I've read through today's strip twice and have stuck on a single thing in Faye's 'voice-over' in panel 3. She said 'we' have better things to do than look for a new relationship. Who is 'we', I wonder and why is Faye automatically including them in her personal priorities? Those who know my posting history will know that I have a preference in my answer to this but I'm interested to see if this turns out to be significance of if it is just a typo on Jeph's part!

Now, I also find myself wondering just what the first face-to-face between Amanda and Evie was like. I'm foreseeing a lot of stuttering, random subject-changes and failure to make eye contact on Amanda's part.

Prediction for next week: Evie takes Bubbles to one side to talk about her feelings for Faye. When Bubbles tries to wave it off, Evie will say something like: "As I haven't got my doctorate yet, I'm legally restrained from calling this 'classic denial'."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 10 Jan 2018, 23:15
See, Amanda? This is why I skip straight to the point rather than taking months to get there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 10 Jan 2018, 23:32
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

I'm a compromised writer here. I officially can't tell between whether this is effective telegraphing -- the explicit lack of interest in male partners being emphasized, the sister being brought back explicitly to show new relationships as a theme for Faye to echo -- or just my shipping goggles on overdrive trying to justify what I hope it is. This sucks.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: WoaLG on 10 Jan 2018, 23:49
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

I'm a compromised writer here. I officially can't tell between whether this is effective telegraphing -- the explicit lack of interest in male partners being emphasized, the sister being brought back explicitly to show new relationships as a theme for Faye to echo -- or just my shipping goggles on overdrive trying to justify what I hope it is. This sucks.

I suspect it's probably a setup to resolve the issue between Bubbles and Faye, but I can see it going in a direction I haven't seen anybody talking about. What if they figure out that they don't really want to try a relationship? There are lots of reasons that it might not be a good idea. Risking a friendship, risking their business, the social issues of the AI/Human relationship, and simple differences in life experiences, for example.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Jan 2018, 00:11
She said 'we' have better things to do than look for a new relationship. Who is 'we', I wonder and why is Faye automatically including them in her personal priorities?

Royal we, or if you prefer: "me and my libido".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 11 Jan 2018, 00:46
They're gonna get along just fine as sisters-in-law.  But poor Mandy - both her sister and her girlfriend tag-teaming her to wind her up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: gopher on 11 Jan 2018, 00:49
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

I'm a compromised writer here. I officially can't tell between whether this is effective telegraphing -- the explicit lack of interest in male partners being emphasized, the sister being brought back explicitly to show new relationships as a theme for Faye to echo -- or just my shipping goggles on overdrive trying to justify what I hope it is. This sucks.

I think it is, but I hope it is not. Feels far too much like the author just putting together two single characters to tidy things up. Faye and Bubbles are great friends and work partners, I don't see them as great romantic partners. Faye is quite broken that way and Bubbles is Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jan 2018, 01:23
They're gonna get along just fine as sisters-in-law.  But poor Mandy - both her sister and her girlfriend tag-teaming her to wind her up.

Here's a thought (a variant of one that I had before I got a decent handle on Evie and Amanda's relationship): Maybe the professors at Smif will be so impressed with Evie that, dependent on the outcome of her PhD, they'll offer her tenure at the college. The assessors are so positive that Evie feels that she can start with the assumption that she's going to get her degree immediately. After they take a brief look at Northampton's dire housing market, Faye approaches Hanners, who is more than willing to transfer her tenancy over to the newcomers as she doesn't know when she'll be back and, when she returns, whether she will still want to live in a place so strongly tied to her past.

So, Amanda and Evie become the new next-door neighbours. This stirs up the dynamic in Marten and Faye's apartment, giving Marten the support of Evie as a fellow Token Sane One as well as giving us endless Whitaker Sisters hi-jinks.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Cornelius on 11 Jan 2018, 01:33
I like the sound of that.

Also, Hanners leaving, means that the band is out of a drummer again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Jan 2018, 02:17
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

I'm a compromised writer here. I officially can't tell between whether this is effective telegraphing -- the explicit lack of interest in male partners being emphasized, the sister being brought back explicitly to show new relationships as a theme for Faye to echo -- or just my shipping goggles on overdrive trying to justify what I hope it is. This sucks.

I think it is, but I hope it is not. Feels far too much like the author just putting together two single characters to tidy things up. Faye and Bubbles are great friends and work partners, I don't see them as great romantic partners. Faye is quite broken that way and Bubbles is Bubbles.

Dora is quite broken in similar ways as well. That's what caused the break up between her and Marten after all. But she and Tai have been happily together for some time now. People can heal. Faye has healed and grown quite a bit since the days of Angus and drinking herself into the hospital. And Bubbles has grown tremendously since she was introduced. Jeph has been dropping hints like a 50 pound weight about Bubbles' attraction to Faye for a while now. And the set up for Amanda or Evie to make a comment that will bring it all out in the open is clearly here. You can only drag out the 'will they, won't they' thing so long before it becomes boring. So yeah, I absolutely see something happening on Friday and next week dealing with the aftermath. What the thing is we don't know yet, but there are a lot of options.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jan 2018, 02:33
I think it is, but I hope it is not. Feels far too much like the author just putting together two single characters to tidy things up. Faye and Bubbles are great friends and work partners, I don't see them as great romantic partners. Faye is quite broken that way and Bubbles is Bubbles.

I'm not sure myself but I have the feeling that Jeph decided to make Bubbles a romantic foil for Faye fairly early on in the Fighting Arena character arc. It's just that we're just approaching a major event in that arc and that the growth of Faye and Bubbles' emotional bond and mutual intimacy has been going on for so long on slow-burn that it's sometimes hard to remember that this didn't just start suddenly since Bubbles moved in with Faye, Marten and Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TinPenguin on 11 Jan 2018, 02:34
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

What, Faye directly demonstrating that she doesn't even contemplate the idea of a female partner as a remote possibility?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Jan 2018, 04:39
Here's a thought (a variant of one that I had before I got a decent handle on Evie and Amanda's relationship): Maybe the professors at Smif will be so impressed with Evie that, dependent on the outcome of her PhD, they'll offer her tenure at the college.

No offense Ben, but it’s clear you have never worked in an academic environment, if only from your misuse of the word “tenure” as it is used in the academic world. It is just barely conceivable that Smif might invite Evie to interview for a postdoctoral fellowship based on a well-received paper. But tenure is typically only given to someone who has been employed in a department for years and has risen through the ranks from lowly adjunct to full professor. Tenure means complete academic freedom and guaranteed lifetime employment - typically tenured professors can only be dismissed for severe misconduct or illegal activity (and sometimes not even for that.) It’s a long term career goal, not something anyone is given right out of the starting gate.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 11 Jan 2018, 05:03

I Love Faye.

I Love Bubbles.

I just don't wanna see "Faybles"...

 :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Jan 2018, 05:48
Here's a thought (a variant of one that I had before I got a decent handle on Evie and Amanda's relationship): Maybe the professors at Smif will be so impressed with Evie that, dependent on the outcome of her PhD, they'll offer her tenure at the college.

No offense Ben, but it’s clear you have never worked in an academic environment, if only from your misuse of the word “tenure” as it is used in the academic world. It is just barely conceivable that Smif might invite Evie to interview for a postdoctoral fellowship based on a well-received paper. But tenure is typically only given to someone who has been employed in a department for years and has risen through the ranks from lowly adjunct to full professor. Tenure means complete academic freedom and guaranteed lifetime employment - typically tenured professors can only be dismissed for severe misconduct or illegal activity (and sometimes not even for that.) It’s a long term career goal, not something anyone is given right out of the starting gate.
I was going to respond, as an academic who is currently trying to escape academia, but you beat me to it. Little AIs running around everywhere and their inventor living on a space station, sure, but if Evie was offered tenure while still in grad school, that would be beyond suspension of disbelief.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 11 Jan 2018, 13:48

I Love Faye.

I Love Bubbles.

I just don't wanna see "Faybles"...

 :oops:

So you're more of a Bubblayé fan?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Jan 2018, 16:27
 :-D :laugh:

Looking forward to Amanda meeting Bubbles. Should be funny at least...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 11 Jan 2018, 20:48
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

What, Faye directly demonstrating that she doesn't even contemplate the idea of a female partner as a remote possibility?

No, just that she's only been dismissing the idea of male ones. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence and all that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: St.Clair on 11 Jan 2018, 22:22
Comic.

Well, so much for the marriage.  They're both totally smitten with Bubbles now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: brasca on 11 Jan 2018, 22:26
No fair!  Bubbles blushes too easily.  It was Amanda’s chance to make Faye squirm.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 11 Jan 2018, 22:43
This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

What, Faye directly demonstrating that she doesn't even contemplate the idea of a female partner as a remote possibility?

No, just that she's only been dismissing the idea of male ones. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence and all that.

Has Faye at some point in the comic expressed a romantic interest in women?
As far as I'm aware all of her romantic/sexual encounters we know of were with men.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Cornelius on 11 Jan 2018, 22:52
Well, I think Evie might need to stick around for a bit. For research purposes, naturally.

Also, regarding Faye's attraction or not: so far she's only been shown being attracted to guys, if we disregard anything that might be interpreted as attraction to Bubbles. But then, some people only realise it's an option for them, when the right person comes along.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jan 2018, 23:11
I would have thought that Bubbles would be used to random ladies in Faye's life reacting to her in this manner. Dora, Sam and Tai and now Amanda and Evie are all: "Ooh, wow! Cool giant AI lady!" At least in Evie's case, I've got the feeling that there is an animé fan aspect to this, just based on the stars in her eyes! Faye, at least, is used to it and, based on panel 4, it has started to be vaguely tiring for her! :-D

So, we know that 'growing hair' for a synthetic involves dunking their hair in a solution that slowly grows out the polymers over time. Bubbles has definitely done it because her ponytail suggests that her hair is now beyond shoulder length. I wonder why she did it? The most logical reason is 'because she wanted to; she liked the look' but I can't help wonder if there may be other influences on Bubbles' sense of aesthetics. If nothing else, I think that she was inspired by Roko's 'do.

Just a little thought on panel 1: This is a sign that you're in a Questionable Content robotics workshop. You don't know if the machinery you're looking at is equipment or people; it's best to assume the latter just to avoid pointless arguments!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 11 Jan 2018, 23:15
"Booty like an Abrams". Booty so hot you'll burst into flames?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 11 Jan 2018, 23:17
Large and made of steel? And will blow you away.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: gopher on 11 Jan 2018, 23:41
When May first met Bubbles Faye gave May crap for objecrifying Bubbles and particularly her bottom. Now Faye encourages every female who meets Bubble to do it and now Bubbles is written as enjoying it. Can't decide if it hypocrisy or just expediency on behalf of the author to establish Bubbles as a sexual being.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 11 Jan 2018, 23:46
Faye isn't doing anything to encourage it. Literally all she did here is tell them her name.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Jan 2018, 00:21
I think that I know how next week will go now. Or at least I'm confident that I know what theme the next week or two will follow. Here's a basic summary of how Jeph could write it:

On Monday, Faye is going to respond to Amanda and Evie's awed reaction to Bubbles in her usual flirty way: "She's somethin' ain't she? I wish I'd had a butt that good designed for me!" or something like that. The visitors will jump to a conclusion and Amanda will demand to know why Faye hadn't told her she had a girlfriend after being all upset about not knowing about Evie. Faye and Bubbles will demur immediately; they're just best friends, not SOs. Then, in the last panel, they'll both say or do something very flirty and, in the foreground, Amanda and Evie will smirk at each other.

Tuesday and Wednesday will be conversations between Faye and Amanda and/or Evie and Bubbles. Both strips will end with something teasing or flirty being passed between Bubbles and Faye. Thursday will be Amanda telling off Faye for 'stringing along' Bubbles and Evie asking Bubbles why she's trying to hide her feelings.

Friday will be Evie and Amanda heading off for the dissertation delivery at Smif, possibly with a hint being given of where they're meeting up with Faye afterwards for dinner. As they leave, both visitors say: "Tell her!"

The final panel will be Faye and Bubbles, both blushing, looking at each other sidelong. "Do you know what that was about?" Faye asks.

"I... er... no; no idea," is Bubbles' response.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: traroth on 12 Jan 2018, 00:58
It's on.

Also: Bubbles is really cute in today's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: blt on 12 Jan 2018, 03:24
It's things like the slightly smaller "oh hello" that cement Bubbles as my favourite character.

In case I didn't already make it obvious. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3651 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TinPenguin on 12 Jan 2018, 03:50
Faye, did you forewarn Amanda and Evie about your business partner being a 'soldier robot' in order to prevent them ogling and staring? Because you might have wanted to reinforce the second part of that message a little harder.

This is absolutely the start of an arc that gets Faye to ask Bubbles out isn't it? Like it just is.

What, Faye directly demonstrating that she doesn't even contemplate the idea of a female partner as a remote possibility?

No, just that she's only been dismissing the idea of male ones. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence and all that.

Given that I mostly hear that logical argument used to justify reenactors dressing up in outlandishly inauthentic kit, I don't give it a lot of credence.

In general, I find speculation about Faye and Bubbles to be perfectly reasonable given various hints and teases in the comic, but I'm also keen to respect Faye's sexual identity and orientation as she has always presented it so far. Your prediction is quite possibly not far off the mark; I just see it leading to more of a 'conversation' than an 'asking out'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 12 Jan 2018, 04:02
Also: Bubbles is really cute in today's comic.

Yes.
Yes, she is.

However, did anyone else notice that Bubbles head seems to lack fully formed ears?
Given the amount of detail all the human ears we see in the last panel are drawn with, this seems intentional.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Jan 2018, 04:04
However, did anyone else notice that Bubbles head seems to lack fully formed ears?

All anthromimetic chassis have similar ears; its one of the ways Jeph differentiates android chassis from humans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 12 Jan 2018, 04:10
However, did anyone else notice that Bubbles head seems to lack fully formed ears?

All anthromimetic chassis have similar ears; its one of the ways Jeph differentiates android chassis from humans.

You're right. I never noticed this...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Jakk Frost on 12 Jan 2018, 04:19
Re yesterday's strip:

"yo I have been flirting with you for months do you wanna fuck/make love or not"

Cue ongoing sexual harassment and potential rape charges, in today's climate.  Perseverance and "wearing her down" is no longer considered acceptable behavior.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: traroth on 12 Jan 2018, 05:24
Re yesterday's strip:

"yo I have been flirting with you for months do you wanna fuck/make love or not"

Cue ongoing sexual harassment and potential rape charges, in today's climate.  Perseverance and "wearing her down" is no longer considered acceptable behavior.

It depends if Amanda was flirting back or, on the contrary, expressed that she wasn't interested (or worse, scared, disgusted, angered...), or even simply lacked to express interest.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Jan 2018, 05:30
Large and made of steel? And will blow you away.

Dynamite with a laser beam. Guaranteed to blow your mind, anytime.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 12 Jan 2018, 06:11
Large and made of steel? And will blow you away.
Dynamite with a laser beam. Guaranteed to blow your mind, anytime.
Recommended at the price. Insatiable an appetite. Want to try?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Jan 2018, 07:01
Now I'm REALLY looking forward to next week. :D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: traroth on 12 Jan 2018, 07:42
It's rude to stare...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Jan 2018, 08:02
I wonder though, will this necessarily lead to the development of Bubbles and Faye's relationship that people want, or will it lead to a defining of where they stand? Like Bubbles confessing how she feels about Faye, only to be gently let down by Faye who tells her that she cares about Bubbles as a friend, but she isn't ready for that kind of relationship.

Really I'm just wanting to warn people about getting their hopes too high, the last arc has pretty much shown that people should be careful what they wish for.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: traroth on 12 Jan 2018, 08:17
I wonder though, will this necessarily lead to the development of Bubbles and Faye's relationship that people want, or will it lead to a defining of where they stand? Like Bubbles confessing how she feels about Faye, only to be gently let down by Faye who tells her that she cares about Bubbles as a friend, but she isn't ready for that kind of relationship.

Really I'm just wanting to warn people about getting their hopes too high, the last arc has pretty much shown that people should be careful what they wish for.

At least we would have some kind of closure.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: traroth on 12 Jan 2018, 08:21
When May first met Bubbles Faye gave May crap for objecrifying Bubbles and particularly her bottom. Now Faye encourages every female who meets Bubble to do it and now Bubbles is written as enjoying it. Can't decide if it hypocrisy or just expediency on behalf of the author to establish Bubbles as a sexual being.

I can't see where Faye is encouraging anything, here...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: dutchrvl on 12 Jan 2018, 09:32
When May first met Bubbles Faye gave May crap for objecrifying Bubbles and particularly her bottom. Now Faye encourages every female who meets Bubble to do it and now Bubbles is written as enjoying it. Can't decide if it hypocrisy or just expediency on behalf of the author to establish Bubbles as a sexual being.

I can't see where Faye is encouraging anything, here...

Not just is Faye doing no encouraging at all as far as I can see, I also don't see any objectification by Evie and Amanda....Unless you find saying somebody is a "badass lady" objectification. Personally I don't.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 12 Jan 2018, 11:34
It depends if Amanda was flirting back or, on the contrary, expressed that she wasn't interested (or worse, scared, disgusted, angered...), or even simply lacked to express interest.

Amanda was the one flirting, Evie would be the one to flirt back or not, in this context.

Also: Jakk? No.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 12 Jan 2018, 13:05
I hope Jeph keeps Bubbles's current hairstyle - she suits a ponytail :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Wagimawr on 12 Jan 2018, 15:10
real talk

Punchbot's arm is what???

JEPH HOW COULD YOU

now that's a cliffhanger
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 12 Jan 2018, 17:17
If anyone is smitten with Bubbles, it's Evie - she's gone all shiny-anime-eyes!   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Lana on 12 Jan 2018, 20:43
Are my eyes/web browser messing with me, or has anyone else noticed a serious drop in image resolution the last few days? The "current" comic is fine on any given day upon first load, but when I hit the previous buttons, or try to arbitrarily load a random page, the comic is slightly smaller, and blurrier.  Even returning to the "current" page, the comic is low-res?

Compare http://www.questionablecontent.net/ (http://www.questionablecontent.net/) vs http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3655 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3655) Screenshots below the spoiler to save space....

(click to show/hide)

I know this isn't a discussion of the current comic per se, but I've just noticed it this week? Has Jeph made any reference to this?

P.S., I'm not new, just an inveterate lurker.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Jan 2018, 20:58
I don't notice any particular difference on my computer, but it could be your web browser scaling the image weirdly. The archive page has a different image size set compared to the main page.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 13 Jan 2018, 00:01
It's definitely rendering smaller, although if you open the image, the image itself is full resolution.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Jan 2018, 04:13
Didn't Jeph make a comment about it being a bit weird switching back to his usual drawing device/program from the one(s) he used when he was traveling?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3650-3655 (8th to 12th January 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Jan 2018, 23:11
Poll Result Post
Why is Amanda Here?

1. She's marrying her girlfriend and wants Faye to participate in the ceremony - 14 (33.3%)
2. After, like, a year, she's finally checked her mother's messages and found out about Faye's post-Angus breakdown - 8 (19%)
3. She is curious about Faye's Northhamton friends and has decided to vacation in the town - 6 (14.3%)
4. Other (please specify in a comment) - 5 (11.9%)
5. She's enrolled in the Dance and Performance Arts course at Smif - 4 (9.5%)
6. Like Hannelore, she's travelling on a sort of personal spirit quest - 1 (2.4%)
7. She literally missed Tilly by a couple of days and will have to wait longer still to return their $10 - 2 (4.8%)
=8. Unbeknown to all, she is someone's pen friend and they have agreed to meet up - 1 (2.4%)
=8. Hannelore's old apartment has been put up for a new tenant and she is interested. - 1 (2.4%)
x. Xomething told her that there was a barista gig open in Northhampton - 0 (0%)

Well, that was an interesting result. I'm not even slightly surprised to see that we're a bunch of romantics on this board - The majority want a new wedding arc, it seems! I also think I get why no-one went for the 'barista' option. Coffee of Doom has become something of a storehouse for characters when you think about it. A new/recurring character turns up and ends up working at CoD or at least spends an inordinate amount of time there does seem a bit over-done.