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Title: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Apr 2018, 15:07
Okay, I got teh feeling from Friday's strip that we've reached teh end of teh current part of teh Clinton-Brun-Elliott triangle arc. Jeph may choose to resume it this coming week but it is equally possible, in my view, that he might choose to revisit otehr arcs or even do something new. What do you think?

Personally, I would like for him to go back to where we left off with Faye. tehre's no hurry about having her come to any realisations but it would be interesting to see last night's 'Nah, can't be' coming up against her and Bubbles continual flirting!

Alternately, maybe do something with Marten and Claire. For example, why not do a date with no dialogue at all? Just four to six panels a strip for a week in which all teh communication is by setting and body language? Don't ask me why but I think it would be an interesting exercise in emotional art.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 01 Apr 2018, 19:57
I would love to see Melon try to help Roko with her problems... emphasis on the word try. There's about 42 different ways that could turn out, and it would be a fun way to explore both of their personalities, as well as maybe getting a little of the backstory of how they know each other.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 01 Apr 2018, 21:43
I vote for shenanigans.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 01 Apr 2018, 21:46
I see the new comic is up, and I am quite happy to see that I called it. Melon is awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 01 Apr 2018, 21:49
Every comic she's in, I become further convinced that Melon is not a post-singularity AI, but just a very advanced iteration of Cleverbot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 01 Apr 2018, 21:52
Pfffft

Rub bread on your butt...

 :-D :lol: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 Apr 2018, 21:59
Well I suppose it's one way to get a rise out of someone. I still think that Melon's idea is half-baked. And I don't really understand rye Roko thinks it's sexy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: badbum61 on 01 Apr 2018, 22:08
Is Monday going to be official Melon And Roko day from now on?
'Cos, y'know, I wouldn't think that was the worst idea ever...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 01 Apr 2018, 22:08
Well I suppose it's one way to get a rise out of someone. I still think that Melon's idea is half-baked. And I don't really understand rye Roko thinks it's sexy.
Groan-worthy  :facepalm:


I don't understand people who think toe-sucking is sexy, either, but hey... whatever kick-starts your Harley.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: brasca on 01 Apr 2018, 22:11
Pfffft

Rub bread on your butt...

 :-D :lol: :laugh:

That's not unheard of.  There was a cook at a summer camp who liked to rub mud on his ass among other proclivities.  Perhaps Melon can impart the same wisdom that a mixed can of vegetables did. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Apr 2018, 22:53
Well I suppose it's one way to get a rise out of someone. I still think that Melon's idea is half-baked. And I don't really understand rye Roko thinks it's sexy.
Groan-worthy  :facepalm:


I don't understand people who think toe-sucking is sexy, either, but hey... whatever kick-starts your Harley.

Be kind and understanding. Lots of men have trouble finding the clitoris.

(Not original with me).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: YakkoRex on 01 Apr 2018, 23:30
This is all the more funny when you consider the origin of the word "pumpernickel".  https://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/the-devilish-origins-of-pumpernickel/

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 01 Apr 2018, 23:53
Dead Squirrel? Momo on the war path again? Marbear rebuilding a computer again?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2018, 00:42
The more I see of Melon and Roko's interactions, the more I'm convinced that they're siblings in some AI-specific way. Melon is so much the sweet baby sister in this strip that it practically jumps out of the page and shouts at me!

It's nice that Roko has been able to confide in Melon; it's obvious that doing so was hard and embarrassing; note Roko's body language in panel 1. I find myself wondering if whether Jeph is writing a story about confronting an embarrassing (if extremely non-bizarre, compared to others) personal kink and trying to find someone who can at least understand her needs.

Meanwhile, I'm getting the impression that Melon literally is so synthetic in her mindset that she doesn't really see organic life as kindred at all. There are the occasional minds to interact with but, mostly, they're just bags of carbohydrates to act as props in her life-story.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Mordhaus on 02 Apr 2018, 00:43
Ok, Roko with her hair down, halter top, and yoga pants is hawt. I volunteer to rub bread on her posterior.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 02 Apr 2018, 00:58
Honestly, Melon just reminds me of Tim Buckley's old Chef Brian comics.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 02 Apr 2018, 01:41
Well I suppose it's one way to get a rise out of someone. I still think that Melon's idea is half-baked. And I don't really understand rye Roko thinks it's sexy.
Groan-worthy  :facepalm:


I don't understand people who think toe-sucking is sexy, either, but hey... whatever kick-starts your Harley.

Be kind and understanding. Lots of men have trouble finding the clitoris.

(Not original with me).
I guess if you can't find it, you start at the outside and work your way in? Maybe they all had Marten's health teacher (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1794).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 02 Apr 2018, 02:35
What happened to Melon's ears?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2018, 03:21
I'm guessing Melon either had a head transplant or just had her ear modules replaced for some reason.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Timemaster on 02 Apr 2018, 04:27
Todays comic is weird in so many ways, I'm not sure if I think it's disturbing or genius.
Also: is Rokko wearing a workout outfit? Do  robots have to do workout to keep their artificial muscles in shape just like we do?

TM
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2018, 04:42
Also: is Rokko wearing a workout outfit? Do  robots have to do workout to keep their artificial muscles in shape just like we do?

Nah, she just wears it because it's comfortable and she likes the style.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 02 Apr 2018, 04:43
Roko seems to be the most humanophilic AI in the comic, as far as I can tell. At least insofar as she mimics human behaviours, including fainting and touch sensitivity. At this point, it's hard not to see her lifestyle as a genuine desire to be as human as possible. It's be interesting to know how much that desire is conscious or unconscious.

I think she's great. As a way of exploring the differences between humans and AI, having a character in one camp trying to fit into the other is a really good way of highlighting similarities and conflicts. I don't know where Jeph intends to take it, but there are a lot of possibilities.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: JimC on 02 Apr 2018, 05:02
Melon seems to have a problem with identifying stuff lying on the pavement. I just hope the next misidentification isn't dog-s*** or used nappies...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 02 Apr 2018, 05:38
Roko seems to be the most humanophilic AI in the comic, as far as I can tell. At least insofar as she mimics human behaviours, including fainting and touch sensitivity. At this point, it's hard not to see her lifestyle as a genuine desire to be as human as possible. It's be interesting to know how much that desire is conscious or unconscious.

I think she's great. As a way of exploring the differences between humans and AI, having a character in one camp trying to fit into the other is a really good way of highlighting similarities and conflicts. I don't know where Jeph intends to take it, but there are a lot of possibilities.

Just maybe - somewhere in the middle ground - Roko will meet a certain human who has stated that he is trying to understand AI's as much as possible? I don't know what would come of that meeting either - but again, there would be a number of possibilities!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Castlerook on 02 Apr 2018, 08:03
This might be just me, but I find that the more Melon appears, the less I like her.

It might be the off-the-wall nature or that she's so eccentric, but every time she's in a comic her likeability drops five points.

Again, that's probably just me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 02 Apr 2018, 08:14
This might be just me, but I find that the more Melon appears, the less I like her.

It might be the off-the-wall nature or that she's so eccentric, but every time she's in a comic her likeability drops five points.

Again, that's probably just me.
Maybe so, it's the opposite for me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 02 Apr 2018, 08:59
This might be just me, but I find that the more Melon appears, the less I like her.

It might be the off-the-wall nature or that she's so eccentric, but every time she's in a comic her likeability drops five points.

Again, that's probably just me.

I'm not even sure if Melon is a sentient. You'd sooner be able to convince me that Corpse Witch has consciousness.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Apr 2018, 10:01
Corpse Witch does have consciousness. What she lacks is a conscience.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 02 Apr 2018, 11:17
To describe it in the vocabulary of that site (https://allthetropes.org), Melon is applying for the job of Manic Pixie Dream Girl (https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl), but she's just got a little too much CloudCuckoolander (https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Cloudcuckoolander) in the way to pull off the required meet cute (https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Meet_Cute) and establish a relationship. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: dexeron on 02 Apr 2018, 11:29
This is all the more funny when you consider the origin of the word "pumpernickel".

Pumpernickel?  I hardly know her nickel!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Scyne on 02 Apr 2018, 12:30
Well.

ok.


At least we know why/how they got matched now. Pintsize has met his match(?)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 02 Apr 2018, 12:49
I'm guessing Melon either had a head transplant or just had her ear modules replaced for some reason.

Maybe Melon is secretly an AI sociologist/psychologist and she uses a number of similar but slightly different remotely controlled chassis to prod at people's perceptions and social boundaries?

Either that or Jeph forgot. Maybe it's part of the plot?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Roborat on 02 Apr 2018, 12:54
The more I see of Melon, the more I like her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 02 Apr 2018, 13:37
WRT the pol I picked first and last where we add Roko to the trilogy and maybe have our Emily join in the shenanigans for a real Harem humdinger story line with more twists and threads than a bowl of spaghetti.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Y on 02 Apr 2018, 14:19
I guess that's the reason I (almost) never tell my friends my kinks. Because then they could become 'beneficial friends' who are able to gratify you sexually while it means nothing to them. As in 'Oh, it's only that, I can do that to you if you like'.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 02 Apr 2018, 14:56
Also: is Rokko wearing a workout outfit? Do  robots have to do workout to keep their artificial muscles in shape just like we do?
She read an article (see Jeph's footnote here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3567), and the previous day's strip, where Bubbles says "I may have read an article...").
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 02 Apr 2018, 17:44
Extra bonus points if the mustache turns out to be a live squirrel that was comatose up till now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 02 Apr 2018, 19:23
If that's a squirrel, it's a little bitty squirrel. 

Squirrel pups aren't usually found on the ground and unmoving unless some sort of trauma has already befallen them.

Maybe it got its ass kuck by crows. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: citizenfive on 02 Apr 2018, 19:43
Comic!

Clinton's being pretty confident here, and appears to be doing well. What hi-jinks will ensue on the walk home?

Also, I feel bad for Elliot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 02 Apr 2018, 19:50
Oh God, I've been where Clinton is now.

I still am not sure if it was a good idea that went badly, or a bad idea that went amazingly.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 02 Apr 2018, 19:56
I think he is confident because he's legit not trying anything. He really is just offering to walk with her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Wombt on 02 Apr 2018, 20:03
I know that feeling, Elliot...feeling like you're watching one person you like get together with another person you like. For me they actually got together for a while. And I'm not particularly jealous, but it was just such a unique sense of pain/loss. (Also, this was high school, and emotions were a lot for me.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 02 Apr 2018, 20:12
"I am mean to Elliot" -  Really? I never would have guessed  :-P
 
Well, as a bouncer, I guess that's the job - deal with the situation...absorb the punishment...  :-(


"Farewelliot"  (Is there a "groan" emoji??)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 02 Apr 2018, 20:15
Okay folks, the line to give Elliot a hug starts here. Lets queue up nice and orderly and no pushing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 02 Apr 2018, 20:26
I think he is confident because he's legit not trying anything. He really is just offering to walk with her.

This. Clinton is too nice to be devious.

Poor Elliot, too...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 02 Apr 2018, 20:39
If that's a squirrel, it's a little bitty squirrel. 

Squirrel pups aren't usually found on the ground and unmoving unless some sort of trauma has already befallen them.

Maybe it got its ass kuck by crows.
To be fair, squirrels of any age aren't usually found unmoving on the ground. But the young'uns aren't strong enough to handle a fall from a power line to the pavement. Then, of course, there was also someone's theory that Momo might have been involved.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 02 Apr 2018, 21:24
Hey, I can't recall, is there anythining canonical in how AI's get their names? It occurrs to me that without a family history something like "O'Malley" would not likely be inherited, so where did it come from?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 02 Apr 2018, 21:32
Hey, I can't recall, is there anythining canonical in how AI's get their names? It occurrs to me that without a family history something like "O'Malley" would not likely be inherited, so where did it come from?

I'm pretty sure I remember Bubbles saying that Bubbles was a nickname her squad gave her, and she kept it to honor them.  Other than that, I don't think we know.  It's possible O'Malley took the name in tribute to a mentor or friend, or maybe he wanted to be a cop and decided that O'Malley sounded like a good Cop Name.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: brasca on 02 Apr 2018, 21:58
I feel bad for Elliot, but I still think we're seeing all the materials we need to ship him and Roko so there's hope. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 02 Apr 2018, 22:08
I feel bad for Elliot, but I still think we're seeing all the materials we need to ship him and Roko so there's hope.
Seriously? You're shipping Elliot & Roko — two people we have never even seen speak to each other?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2018, 23:24
This is such a quintessentially romcom moment: The protagonist's crush goes off with the other crush, both safely and serenely ignorant of his feelings. Elliott, you really are going to have to get around to actually telling them both, even if it makes things awkward. Otherwise, they're going to make their own arrangements and you may lose out!

I'm wondering if the owner of The Horrible Revelation has sent Brun home early because of 'good work' or if it is because she's smelly? Or, perhaps, because she's working so hard that everyone else is complaining that she's making them look bad!

Finally: 'Farewelliott' is officially the cutest thing any character has said in this strip for a while. No doubt, if asked, Brun would explain that it was 'efficient to leave out a redundant syllable'. :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 02 Apr 2018, 23:55
I feel bad for Elliot, but I still think we're seeing all the materials we need to ship him and Roko so there's hope.

There are some materials missing, but it's probably within the rules to hope that they meet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Case on 03 Apr 2018, 01:27
This is such a quintessentially romcom moment: The protagonist's crush goes off with the other crush, both safely and serenely ignorant of his feelings.

Those'd be the many romcoms with bi and potentially poly protagonists, I wager?

Yeah, they do that, do they not? Bloody tearjerks ...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 03 Apr 2018, 01:37
Farewelliot...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Apr 2018, 01:42
This is such a quintessentially romcom moment: The protagonist's crush goes off with the other crush, both safely and serenely ignorant of his feelings.

Those'd be the many romcoms with bi and potentially poly protagonists, I wager?

Yeah, they do that, do they not? Bloody tearjerks ...

No, smarty-pants, it follows the general conceptual and thematic concepts of romccoms.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Case on 03 Apr 2018, 02:53
This is such a quintessentially romcom moment: The protagonist's crush goes off with the other crush, both safely and serenely ignorant of his feelings.

Those'd be the many romcoms with bi and potentially poly protagonists, I wager?

Yeah, they do that, do they not? Bloody tearjerks ...

No, smarty-pants, it follows the general conceptual and thematic concepts of romccoms.

Mmmmmh 'conceptual concepts' ?

Oh Ben ... all this time, and you still know all the right words (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppliedPhlebotinum?from=Maine Handwavium), mon chér...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Apr 2018, 05:05
If this was a romantic comedy, then Brun would kiss Clinton good-night when they got to her door.

If this was a psychological thriller, then Roko would go out for a walk, see Clinton innocently walking Brun home, and then something in her brain would snap and she would start stalking them both.

But this is Questionable Content, so neither of these things will happen. Instead something incredibly awkward will happen and Clinton will walk away very confused.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 03 Apr 2018, 05:15
I feel bad for Elliot, but I still think we're seeing all the materials we need to ship him and Roko so there's hope.
Seriously? You're shipping Elliot & Roko — two people we have never even seen speak to each other?

Oh, I totally see it. These two arcs are playing together back and forth, we know Roko has a thing for buff men (they are always buff in her fantasies at least), Elliot body builds, and the last we saw of Roko she was telling Melon she has a bread fetish. I think the pairing would be a good way to explore human-AI relationships versus using central characters—as much as we've been teased by Faybles (and that it could be a cute pairing). Roko has decent communication skills and she is assertive but afraid of being vulnerable. Elliot can look intimidating, but his personality is actually very laid back and sweet, and it he seems like he enjoys listening to other people talk. 

I still would love to see Clinton-Elliot-Brun trio, but they seem to be such newbies at relationships that being poly may be kind of unrealistic, and Clinton seems to be either unaware of his biness or is straight as an arrow (though beautifully open-minded). It's felt like since we met him and Brun they were destined for something special together—be it super friendship or a relationship or something else. The fact he said to Elliot he didn't want to betray Brun's trust shows a gigantic amount of character growth from the oblivious stalkery guy we first met creeping out Hanners. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Timemaster on 03 Apr 2018, 08:01
Some people tend to show their real feelings when they are banged enough. If Clinton is unsure about his feelings for Brun, maybe the next episodes will bring clarity for him (and us).

TM
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Apr 2018, 08:20
Hey, I can't recall, is there anythining canonical in how AI's get their names? It occurrs to me that without a family history something like "O'Malley" would not likely be inherited, so where did it come from?

I'm pretty sure I remember Bubbles saying that Bubbles was a nickname her squad gave her, and she kept it to honor them.  Other than that, I don't think we know.  It's possible O'Malley took the name in tribute to a mentor or friend, or maybe he wanted to be a cop and decided that O'Malley sounded like a good Cop Name.
We've speculated on this before WRT Trooper Roko Basilisk.  Off the top of my head, she and Bartholomew Punchbot CPA are the only AIs we've met who unquestionably use surnames.  Since AIs presumably know each other by their MAC addresses, chassis serial numbers, and OS build numbers, given names are only necessary to interact with us meat persons.  They take surnames when necessary to interact with courts and government agencies.

For Roko to be known professionally only as "Roko" would also reduce her to the level of police canine units ("patrol dog Fluffy"), and she needs to be recognized by the humans she deals with as a sentient entity with the full authority of the State of Massachusetts behind her, not just another barking, flea chewing, uniform hairing, lunch room raiding sandwich thief police dog.  Until she went to work for MSP, she was probably just "Roko."

Since they are sentient entities with free agency, there are potentially as many sources of AI surnames as there are AIs wanting to take them.  As for Trooper (presuming he, too, works for the State Police) O'Malley, we'll have to wait for his backstory to be revealed to find out where and how he came by his name.  (I get the feeling it may be Francis Xavier O'Malley, just 'cause it'd be so damn Boston.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 03 Apr 2018, 09:49
Basilisk surely came with Roko, since that's based on an actual thing https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk .
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 03 Apr 2018, 10:15
If this was a romantic comedy, then Brun would kiss Clinton good-night when they got to her door.

If this was a psychological thriller, then Roko would go out for a walk, see Clinton innocently walking Brun home, and then something in her brain would snap and she would start stalking them both.

But this is Questionable Content, so neither of these things will happen. Instead something incredibly awkward will happen and Clinton will walk away very confused.
Truth!

I am holding out hope for Brun, with her usual bluntness, saying something along the lines of "I saw you hugging Elliot - are you going to date him?"   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: daphne on 03 Apr 2018, 11:27
I feel so bad for Elliot. :-( But let's see what follows.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Roborat on 03 Apr 2018, 11:32
"farewelliot" Snerk, I love it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 03 Apr 2018, 11:39
The discussion of AI naming conventions, it reminds me of the time I played an Eclipse Phase campaign with an AI character, albeit in a universe where one of the motifs is that physical forms are disposable.  The character took the position that as their name was the most physical thing about them, it was also the truest physical manifestation of their identity.  As any physical form was assigned to them (rather than born with them), those forms became tools of self-expression and utility rather than identity.  The only physicality to their identity was their name, and so the selection of one's name became a glimpse into one's true self and how they see themselves, rather than a marker of one's lineage (being that AIs largely don't have one outside of their developers).

This would make Roko's selection somewhat concerning...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 03 Apr 2018, 13:12
But this is Questionable Content, so neither of these things will happen. Instead something incredibly awkward will happen and Clinton will walk away very confused.
Either his key doesn't work or mum has a "guest" or "guests" over for the evening - super awkward plus no place to sleep and not able to drive home ..... Oh My ....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 03 Apr 2018, 13:56
But this is Questionable Content, so neither of these things will happen. Instead something incredibly awkward will happen and Clinton will walk away very confused.
Either his key doesn't work or mum has a "guest" or "guests" over for the evening - super awkward plus no place to sleep and not able to drive home ..... Oh My ....
TBH I don't think his mom having company would be as big a deal as it was before. I think talking to Claire about it helped him to see that it's not worth freaking out. It would still surely be awkward, but then that might only prompt him to invite Brun to stay for a while so he'd have someone to talk to. Whatever will he do?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 03 Apr 2018, 14:05
Actually, O'Malley's question "Where am I?" makes me wonder...


Exactly where did Brun drag him to?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Apr 2018, 14:09
Actually, O'Malley's question "Where am I?" makes me wonder...

Exactly where did Brun drag him to?

Based on where Elliott had been talking to Brun and Clinton, I'm thinking that it was a nice, discreet corner just outside the front door of the bar, traditionally known as the 'sleeping it off corner'.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 03 Apr 2018, 18:42
I am pleased that Clinton respects Brün's trust in him and does not want to betray it.
Looking forward to their conversation. (Now that Clinton no longer needs to pee.)

(not buying coffee for anyone who is mean to Elliot)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 03 Apr 2018, 18:55
New comic...

And Clinton, the answer to that question is probably this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1670).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Wombt on 03 Apr 2018, 18:57
Sometimes grown-ups get to do random shit at 1am, Clinton. It's the only part of being an adult I like so far.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 03 Apr 2018, 19:16
I support the "Promise of fresh-baked cookies as falling cherry blossoms" metaphor.

Also, this is an interesting development. Clinton's mom may provide him with some useful perspective regarding his relationship with Brun (and potentially Elliot). This also marks the second time  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2805)she's invited a potential love interest of one of her children in for homemade foodstuffs, and it seems to have worked out pretty well last time.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 03 Apr 2018, 19:33
...in my experience, there is exactly one reason people bake cookies at 1 am.  Let's hope Brun's not too much a novice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 03 Apr 2018, 19:52
...in my experience, there is exactly one reason people bake cookies at 1 am.  Let's hope Brun's not too much a novice.

Because they like cookies?  I've done the 1 am cookie bake before because that's when I know I won't be in anyone's way and I like baking.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 03 Apr 2018, 20:54
...in my experience, there is exactly one reason people bake cookies at 1 am.  Let's hope Brun's not too much a novice.
I can't speak for Clinton's mother, but I am a night owl, so I've done a great many different things at 1 am - including baking cookies - and for a great many different reasons.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 03 Apr 2018, 20:59
I haven't baked at 1am.

Yet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 03 Apr 2018, 21:11
Sadly, I can't speak to the getting wired as a result of sexy times, but sometimes I want cookies and there aren't any in the house, and the closest store that's opened is several blocks away and my cripple-scooter has a crappy headlight.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 03 Apr 2018, 21:50
Hmm... like mother, like daughter?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3206
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 03 Apr 2018, 22:04
Hmm... like mother, like daughter?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3206 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3206)
If she's anything like my own mother, she just likes inviting her children's friends over. Particularly when there's fresh-made food to be had.


Claire, on the other hand, was just being a typical sibling - being all up in her brother's business when she should just let nature take its course.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Apr 2018, 22:35
Hey, I can't recall, is there anythining canonical in how AI's get their names? It occurrs to me that without a family history something like "O'Malley" would not likely be inherited, so where did it come from?

Long ago, I forget where, and I'm not certain, Jeph said they choose their own names.

On the other hand PT410X certainly acted like names were imposed on them by humans.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Apr 2018, 22:41
<snip>TBH I don't think his mom having company would be as big a deal as it was before. <snip>

It's funny how we cringe about our parents having sex lives. There's a book entitled "My Parents Never had Sex".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 03 Apr 2018, 23:09
On the other hand PT410X certainly acted like names were imposed on them by humans.
Perhaps not names themselves, but PT410X seemed particularly opposed to the arbitrary need to have a "name". Of course, there are certainly some AIs who have allowed themselves to be named by a human (May, for example).


On the other hand... and I hesitate to use the word "conform", but I'll do it anyway... By conforming to the human convention of carrying a name, an AI makes it easier for many humans to think of them as equals. If we only have their serial number to call them by, it's too easy to think of them as just a machine. A name makes it easier to think of them as alive.


Even though humans and AIs were legally made equals, the everyday practice of treating each other as equals requires some compromise on both sides.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Apr 2018, 23:13
In panel 3, you can literally read Brun's thoughts: "Cookies? Did she say cookies?!?" Whatever plans Brun had to go back to Renee's place were set aside then. It also seems that the Augustus family home also has something Brun treasures - a rare and/or unusual time-piece! So, for her, it's a win-win.

What's she doing up baking at 1am? Well, jokes about her infallible 'mom-sense' telling her that Clinton was on the way with a girl he needed to impress, I suppose that I'm a little concerned that maybe Mrs A is losing it a little whilst casting around to find something to do with her life now that Claire has moved out.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Cornelius on 03 Apr 2018, 23:20
On the other hand PT410X certainly acted like names were imposed on them by humans.
Perhaps not names themselves, but PT410X seemed particularly opposed to the arbitrary need to have a "name". Of course, there are certainly some AIs who have allowed themselves to be named by a human (May, for example).

His stand was certainly that one's serial number should suffice. To me, that puts him on the other side of the spectrum as Roko, as far as assimilating human behaviour goes. But then it was, if i remember correctly, also a part of his os being looked based, and making a point of his independence.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Apr 2018, 23:34
...in my experience, there is exactly one reason people bake cookies at 1 am.  Let's hope Brun's not too much a novice.
I can't speak for Clinton's mother, but I am a night owl, so I've done a great many different things at 1 am - including baking cookies - and for a great many different reasons.
Ditto to 1am baking as a night owl.

Hmm... like mother, like daughter?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3206
If so, their mom has a much more subtle methodology.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 03 Apr 2018, 23:43
I know several dozen firefighters who will gladly tell you about people baking at 1AM...then again all of those were "culinary incinerations" as they like to call burning food but even so it's not uncommon.

Any idea what she does with her life? Perhaps volunteer work where something like that would be appreciated?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Storel on 04 Apr 2018, 00:08
Never mind the cookies, how did she know to open the door when Clinton was still at least ten feet away from the doorbell?  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: WoaLG on 04 Apr 2018, 00:12
Never mind the cookies, how did she know to open the door when Clinton was still at least ten feet away from the doorbell?  :-o

I don't know the layout of the house, but if she was up baking and that kitchen window is one of the ones pointing out into the yard, she probably saw some people walking up. In the dark she might not have immediately known who it was which would be why she's still kind of surprised to see Clinton.

Or maybe she was baking those cookies for a visitor she was expecting (the kind that Clinton would squick about) and thought the people walking up might be that visitor.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 04 Apr 2018, 00:19
Hey, I can't recall, is there anythining canonical in how AI's get their names? It occurrs to me that without a family history something like "O'Malley" would not likely be inherited, so where did it come from?

Long ago, I forget where, and I'm not certain, Jeph said they choose their own names.

On the other hand PT410X certainly acted like names were imposed on them by humans.
Assuming they choose their own names, I have to wonder what Roko Basilisk was thinking when she chose hers... I didn't fully understand the link shared earlier but I understood enough to wonder why an AI would pick that for a name.

Never mind the cookies, how did she know to open the door when Clinton was still at least ten feet away from the doorbell?  :-o

I don't know the layout of the house, but if she was up baking and that kitchen window is one of the ones pointing out into the yard, she probably saw some people walking up. In the dark she might not have immediately known who it was which would be why she's still kind of surprised to see Clinton.

Or maybe she was baking those cookies for a visitor she was expecting (the kind that Clinton would squick about) and thought the people walking up might be that visitor.
I also wondered if Mom Augustus was expecting a different visitor. Something about the way she says "O-oh! Clinton! ..."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 04 Apr 2018, 01:27
Has anyone else noticed Mrs. Augustus doing the Claireface in the second panel?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Apr 2018, 01:39
In panel 3, you can literally read Brun's thoughts: "Cookies? Did she say cookies?!?" Whatever plans Brun had to go back to Renee's place were set aside then. It also seems that the Augustus family home also has something Brun treasures - a rare and/or unusual time-piece! So, for her, it's a win-win.

What's she doing up baking at 1am? Well, jokes about her infallible 'mom-sense' telling her that Clinton was on the way with a girl he needed to impress, I suppose that I'm a little concerned that maybe Mrs A is losing it a little whilst casting around to find something to do with her life now that Claire has moved out.
Oh dear.

I hope Brun called Renée to let her know what's up. Clinton could wake up with quite the phone call (or needing to make one) otherwise.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 04 Apr 2018, 03:36
Or maybe she was baking those cookies for a visitor she was expecting (the kind that Clinton would squick about) and thought the people walking up might be that visitor.
I also wondered if Mom Augustus was expecting a different visitor. Something about the way she says "O-oh! Clinton! ..."

If she was expecting that kind of visitor I imagine she might have been dressed... differently.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: DannyboyTheDane on 04 Apr 2018, 05:46
I interpreted it as her already having company over, like last time Clinton wanted to crash, but I guess not.

It really is curious to see how this love tesseract is going to unfold; great points have been made about the suitability of Elliot and Roko, but then those are the two parties who are not actually even aware of each other's presence at this point. THE PLOT THICKENS.

As for Melon, like all absurdly wacky comic relief characters she walks the fine line between lovably hilarious and frustratingly annoying. So far she falls into the former camp for me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: heyjames4 on 04 Apr 2018, 06:04
The forum's been over Claire 's predilection for well-intentioned interfering in Clinton's love-life, but we forgot all about Momma Augustus. I'm interested to see where this goes. Probably Ms. A gets one of them to open up to her about the other, then the other one overhears, classic rom-com stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Apr 2018, 06:15
Mrs A wants her kids to be settled and happy. I'm wondering if the important conversation will be the one she has with Brun, possibly whilst bonding over chronological family heirlooms. If Brun 'seems like a nice girl', we can expect Mrs A to not-so-unsubtly shove her and Clinton together.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 04 Apr 2018, 06:25
She doesn't do anything so undignified as shove. She provides the deliciously tasty treats and lets nature take its course.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Jakk Frost on 04 Apr 2018, 08:29
Being a little pedantic, because that's just how I am, on the caption from yesterday's comic, that should be "drunk and disorderly".  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 08:55
I was thinking that - rather than having a convo with Brun - Mrs A might have a little heart-to-heart with Clinton while Brun goes to admire the clock. Kind of get an idea of whether Clinton thinks of her as a friend, or as a "friend". The situation when she invited Marten over for pancakes was different, because Claire lived there, and was constantly talking about Marten, so her mom already had a pretty good idea how Claire felt. And as a parent myself, I don't think she invited Marten over to nudge them together (although it did provide the perfect occasion for that final move), but rather she just wanted to meet this guy that her daughter had been talking about so much.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2018, 09:49
To be fair, Mrs. Augustus' matchmaking style tends to be much more subtle, a gentle nudge to get things rolling.

Claire's matchmaking is more like taking two dolls together and mashing them together, going "And Kisssssssssssss".

One comes from experience (and being a Deus Ex Machina) and the other is about setting up a story where "And Kissssss" ends up with people hurt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Bollthorn on 04 Apr 2018, 10:03
"Why were you baking cookies at 1am?"

Is there such a thing as a bad time to bake cookies? ;)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2018, 10:18
"Why were you baking cookies at 1am?"

Is there such a thing as a bad time to bake cookies? ;)

When the house is burning.
When you're drowning.
When you're being mauled by a grizzly bear.
When you're in a business meeting.
When you already have cookies and have forgotten you've already made them.
When you nil past mouth.

Note that those are the only times its a bad time to bake cookies.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 04 Apr 2018, 10:29
"Why were you baking cookies at 1am?"

Is there such a thing as a bad time to bake cookies? ;)

When the house is burning.
When you're drowning.
When you're being mauled by a grizzly bear.
When you're in a business meeting.
When you already have cookies and have forgotten you've already made them.
When you nil past mouth.

Note that those are the only times its a bad time to bake cookies.

Disagree.  Add: when you've already started mixing ingredients only to realize you don't have a key one.
Source: personal experience.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: JimC on 04 Apr 2018, 10:44
how did she know to open the door when Clinton was still at least ten feet away from the doorbell? 
Phone call/text message? If Clinton has learned from past experience he'd message first...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Y on 04 Apr 2018, 11:14
Disagree.  Add: when you've already started mixing ingredients only to realize you don't have a key one.
Source: personal experience.
Then it's pancake/waffle/omelette/cookie batter eating (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=20) (also for humans (https://www.self.com/story/cookie-dough-cafe))?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 04 Apr 2018, 12:27
A trick my friend used to do was to keep a batch of cookie dough on hand in case of guests, and could act like they just so happened to be baking cookies right then so it wouldn't seem like a bother and still get fresh baked cookies.  I wonder if Ms. A knows that trick...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 13:06
Add: when you've already started mixing ingredients only to realize you don't have a key one.
Source: personal experience.
Nope. You may not personally finish the job in that case, but it's not universal.


The one time that happened to me, I covered the mixing bowl and ran to the store. Yes, the nearest store that was open was a 30 minute drive, but once I started making the cookies, I had to finish. The joys of OCD.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 04 Apr 2018, 13:52
Has anyone else noticed Mrs. Augustus doing the Claireface in the second panel?  :claireface:
More like Claire frequently does a Momface.  Intellectual property an' all, y'know.

300 years ago in the same area she'd be known as Mother Gusta (the one with powers).  She was accused of witchcraft, but the magistrate was mighty fond of her cookies and had the accusers hanged instead.

Being a little pedantic, because that's just how I am, on the caption from yesterday's comic, that should be "drunk and disorderly".  :-P
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 04 Apr 2018, 14:50
Add: when you've already started mixing ingredients only to realize you don't have a key one.
Source: personal experience.
Nope. You may not personally finish the job in that case, but it's not universal.


The one time that happened to me, I covered the mixing bowl and ran to the store. Yes, the nearest store that was open was a 30 minute drive, but once I started making the cookies, I had to finish. The joys of OCD.

Picky note: they didn't say they wouldn't finish the job, only that it's a bad time to be making cookies. Possibly for the exact reason you've just described. BTW I would do exactly the same thing, and I am not OCD (not even in the trendy but medically incorrect sense of the word).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 15:48
Touché. I suppose that could be considered a bad time to bake cookies. At least until you've been to the store to get the missing ingredient.
However, I also disagree with a couple of the other "bad times to bake cookies."
Quote
When you already have cookies and have forgotten you've already made them.
When you nil past mouth.
1. You can never have too many cookies, so already having them doesn't mean it's a bad time to make more.
2. I have never seen the phrase "nil past mouth", but I assume they are referring to the medical term NPO (nil per os, which actually translates as "nothing by mouth", and is written out as the full phrase in medical documents), which is a very short-term situation - usually only 12 to 24 hours. I have been under that restriction a number of times - usually before having an MRI, but also before surgery. If you make the cookies while you are NPO, then you will have them waiting for you as soon as you're allowed to eat again. I suppose if you happen to be in the hospital at the time, then it would indeed be a bad time to bake cookies. But then again, any time you're in the hospital would be a bad time to bake cookies (and that one wasn't on their list).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2018, 16:24
Aaaaand the joke is dead.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 04 Apr 2018, 16:45
Damn. Sorry. Time to bake cookies.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: heyjames4 on 04 Apr 2018, 16:48
I think the "o-oh! Clinton! Hello!" is Ms. A code-switching from "Clinton called ahead to crash.<Mom reflexes activated>" to "Clinton brought a girl home.<advanced mom reflexes activated>" to "be cool be cool don't come on too strong <reset advanced mom reflexes to passive mode>
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 04 Apr 2018, 17:29
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 17:58
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
You've never heard that one before? Yes, it is excellent. Snoggered/snockered has been around longer than I have. But it's kind of fallen out of use since the turn of the century. Does that put you in the under-thirty crowd?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Y on 04 Apr 2018, 18:54
Now what ingredients are actually in these cookies?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 04 Apr 2018, 19:01
Giving ClintonMom an incipient mustache does not make her cuter.
(your mileage may vary)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Apr 2018, 19:02
This explains why there were pancakes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 04 Apr 2018, 19:05
"...no more baking while baked..."  :laugh:
This is weird - I'm starting to really like Clinton. When did that happen??
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 04 Apr 2018, 19:06
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
You've never heard that one before? Yes, it is excellent. Snoggered/snockered has been around longer than I have. But it's kind of fallen out of use since the turn of the century. Does that put you in the under-thirty crowd?

Sadly disqualified from the under-thirties, but only just. I'm from the East of England, so maybe that's it? We tend to be more... blunt in our descriptions of inebriation.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 Apr 2018, 19:16
Called it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tova on 04 Apr 2018, 19:18
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
You've never heard that one before? Yes, it is excellent. Snoggered/snockered has been around longer than I have. But it's kind of fallen out of use since the turn of the century. Does that put you in the under-thirty crowd?

I don't think I've come across that specific term for drunk/plastered/smashed/insert-your-favourite-term-here, but then again, it instantly sounded to me like an English word for "drunk", so maybe I have and it just got lost among its dozens of companions.

how did she know to open the door when Clinton was still at least ten feet away from the doorbell? 
Phone call/text message? If Clinton has learned from past experience he'd message first...

I missed this. I guess I got distracted by all that talk about cookies (which, by the way, is not a word I would use at home - I'd say "bikkies" - but I digress).

I just wanted to suggest that she probably just heard them talking as they approached. It's 1am, you could probably hear them from blocks away, even if they were speaking softly. And they are inebriated, so probably not.

I don't know about you, but in my younger days, my mother's ability to sense me or one of my brothers approaching the house at literally any time of day or night was uncanny, comparable only with my cats' ability to do the same thing.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to award Near Lurker a bikkie.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Torlek on 04 Apr 2018, 19:36
So today's comic completely confirmed my desire for a side storyline starring Ms. Augustus (how does she not have a first name yet?), the Bianchis, Veronica, Jim, Henry and Maurice. At this point they're just as interesting as most of the main cast.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 Apr 2018, 19:47
It's probably pretty much a given Ms. Augustus will meet Marten's parents and their partners sooner or later.  Not sure about the Bianchis, though.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: cucumber error on 04 Apr 2018, 19:47
Ms. Augustus (how does she not have a first name yet?)

She *should* have a first name! We don't even know for sure if Augustus is her last name IIRC.

Giving ClintonMom an incipient mustache does not make her cuter.
(your mileage may vary)

I think that's just wrinkles. Probably.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 04 Apr 2018, 19:53
Add: when you've already started mixing ingredients only to realize you don't have a key one.
Source: personal experience.
Nope. You may not personally finish the job in that case, but it's not universal.


The one time that happened to me, I covered the mixing bowl and ran to the store. Yes, the nearest store that was open was a 30 minute drive, but once I started making the cookies, I had to finish. The joys of OCD.

Picky note: they didn't say they wouldn't finish the job, only that it's a bad time to be making cookies. Possibly for the exact reason you've just described. BTW I would do exactly the same thing, and I am not OCD (not even in the trendy but medically incorrect sense of the word).

*Technically* I sent my brother to the store instead of going myself, but the point remains.  Yes, I did finish the cookies.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Apr 2018, 20:29
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
You've never heard that one before? Yes, it is excellent. Snoggered/snockered has been around longer than I have. But it's kind of fallen out of use since the turn of the century. Does that put you in the under-thirty crowd?

Is 'shnockered' a regional variant, then?

I'm used to hearing an 'sh' in there.

EDIT:typo fix
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Apr 2018, 20:46
This might be just me, but I find that the more Melon appears, the less I like her.

It might be the off-the-wall nature or that she's so eccentric, but every time she's in a comic her likeability drops five points.

Again, that's probably just me.

I'm not even sure if Melon is a sentient. You'd sooner be able to convince me that Corpse Witch has consciousness.

Well, she doesn't exist, and a drawing on a computer is not sentient. Our gracious host has made it unmistakably clear that he's portraying them as metal and plastic versions of people. Bubbles feels emotional pain, Momo has a sense of mission in life, so on and so on.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 04 Apr 2018, 20:56
Melon is sentient, she just comes at reality at an oblique angle.

That way she can flank it, and gain advantage when she attacks.

So far, she and reality are engaged in an intense existential battle, and reality has yet to land a decisive blow.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Apr 2018, 21:02
Now what ingredients are actually in these cookies?

I wondered that too, since she was apparently baking them for herself.

There is not a shred of evidence for this but I have an intuition out of nowhere that Brun is one of those people who has bad or at least idiosyncratic reactions to cannabis.

If Jeph goes down that road I will report him to the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Characters.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 21:03
It should be indeed, but O'Malley was still half snoggered when he wrote the report.

Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
You've never heard that one before? Yes, it is excellent. Snoggered/snockered has been around longer than I have. But it's kind of fallen out of use since the turn of the century. Does that put you in the under-thirty crowd?

Is 'shnockered' a regional variant, then?

I'm used to hearing an 'sh' in there.

EDIT:typo fix
I've seen it spelled snoggered, snockered, shnockered, and schnockered. Dictionary.com shows both snockered and schnockered. But I've almost always heard it as shnoggered, even though I've never seen it written that way. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of regional variants, depending on how shnoggered the people are who are saying it.  ;)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 04 Apr 2018, 21:23
Cutting in to say that 'Snoggered' is an excellent new euphemism that I will be incorporating into my vocabulary from this point on.
I, too, find it to be excellent, but it's hardly new.  Early 20th Century if not older.  I'd considered using it's cousin "swacked" which seems to be of more recent vintage, circa the Second World War, but I decided snoggered was a better fit for our synthetic Irishman.

(My personal impressions only.  Someone must have made an academic study of terms describing states of inebriation.  I should find it.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 04 Apr 2018, 21:30
Comic's up.  So THAT's why Mom was up baking cookies!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 04 Apr 2018, 21:42
...but I decided snoggered was a better fit for our synthetic Irishman.
Indeed. Especially when you consider that the best guess for the word's origin is from an Irish word, snagaireact.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: brasca on 04 Apr 2018, 22:00
Now what ingredients are actually in these cookies?

Since Clinton could smell cannabis in the air I think the cookies have no secret ingredients.  She doesn't know Brun well enough and wouldn't want to get her in trouble if she has to take a drug test in the immediate future.   
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Apr 2018, 23:12
Nothing about today's strip really surprises me. Every interaction the cast has had with Mrs A in the recent past has indicated that she's having a second adolescence of some kind. What today's strip reveals is that this is happening because, in some ways, she didn't have much of one in the first place. I'm wondering if she'd married Clinton and Claire's dad when she was quite young (got her MRS degree very early on in college, possibly)?

Meanwhile, Clinton is right: Making decisions when intoxicated is always a huge risk. This is mostly because being intoxicated makes bad choices seem like good choices and that's always a bad thing when making irrevocable choices. It's funny, in a way, just how many choices turn out to be irrevocable under specific and surprisingly common circumstances. For example: Dogs are good as companions; as space heaters, less so.

It was a good thing Clinton turned up when did as it may be that he has prevented his mother from turning into the neighbourhood's Crazy Dog Lady.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 05 Apr 2018, 00:31
I have very little experience with the affects of pot, and none of it personal experience. Could the rambling of Mrs Agustus in the last two panels be considered typical behavior for someone who's only had a "little?"

Also, Mrs A, you don't need dogs for their body heat, you've got college boys. :P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 05 Apr 2018, 00:49
I have very little experience with the affects of pot, and none of it personal experience. Could the rambling of Mrs Agustus in the last two panels be considered typical behavior for someone who's only had a "little?"

Also, Mrs A, you don't need dogs for their body heat, you've got college boys. :P
I have limited direct experience (2 asthma attacks), but my older brother and most of his college buddies had "gatherings" (the statute of limitations has expired). It depends on the person and their mindset, but mostly 'yes'. The bit at the end is a stereotype for a reason.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: gopher on 05 Apr 2018, 00:54
Giving ClintonMom an incipient mustache does not make her cuter.
(your mileage may vary)

It is almost dali-esque.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Cornelius on 05 Apr 2018, 01:10
For example: Dogs are good as companions; as space heaters, less so.

I don't know, my old Labrador positively radiated heat.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 05 Apr 2018, 02:21
There's a reason why there's such a thing as a "three dog night".

(Basically, it means it's so cold that you need to have three dogs in bed with you to stay warm.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 05 Apr 2018, 03:09
I missed this. I guess I got distracted by all that talk about cookies (which, by the way, is not a word I would use at home - I'd say "bikkies" - but I digress).

My grandma used to refer to chocolate biscuits as "choccy biccies", which I've always assumed was one of her Northernisms :')
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Apr 2018, 03:10
No, the slang term 'Bikkies' is used at least as far south as London!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: gopher on 05 Apr 2018, 04:13
No, the slang term 'Bikkies' is used at least as far south as London!

Sometimes airline stewards get referred to as "bikkie-chuckers".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Apr 2018, 05:18
If Jeph goes down that road I will report him to the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Characters.

Oh, you mean the "James R.R. Martin Anti-Red Wedding Society"?

Or its comics counterpart, the "Charles M. Schulz Football Kicking Society"?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2018, 05:38
Claire and Clinton have moved out.  Brun is still couch surfing at Renee's where there isn't really enough room for two people who aren't bunking together.  Mother A (she really needs a first name, Jeph) is empty-nesting and has two vacant rooms.

I think I may know where this is headed.



Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Apr 2018, 05:49
My grandma used to refer to chocolate biscuits as "choccy biccies", which I've always assumed was one of her Northernisms :')

Nothing specifically Northern about that; I say the same in Southern England.  And for me, "cookie" is a specific type of biscuit, generally rather large, slightly soft and almost but not quite gooey.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 05 Apr 2018, 07:00
One also wonders where Clinton learned the scent of weed...

Tho admittedly, he's in college. Not THAT surprising.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Apr 2018, 07:58
To be fair, it has a very distinctive stench. I think the only way it's actually tolerable is if you're high enough to not care.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 08:12
Maybe Clinton was just too drunk when he first walked in, or maybe the smell of freshly-baked cookies was just too strong, but I’m kinda surprised he didn’t notice the smell of pot right away. As cesium133 pointed out, it has a very distinctive stench.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 05 Apr 2018, 09:10
Aaaaand the joke is dead.
No it's not!
It's getting better.

To be fair, it has a very distinctive stench. I think the only way it's actually tolerable is if you're high enough to not care.
That distinctive aroma is due to various volatile organic compounds of the Turpinol family. Yes that means they are chemically similar to turpentine.
As someone who grew up in the house of a painter of the housing variety you get inured used to that particular stench.
Mind, I have worked with licensed large scale commercial producers and dealing with the fumes on such a scale is a major headache in more ways than one.
One has gone so far as to try bubbling exhaust air in an attempt to scrub it while another wanted to use it in the gas heater air feed  :facepalm:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BryanP on 05 Apr 2018, 12:34
Clinton's mom *is* cuter. 

(my opinion may be shaped by the fact that I'm a whole lot closer to her age than his)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 05 Apr 2018, 13:46
"Mom, so long as you are living in my house, you'll obey my rules!!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: anahata on 05 Apr 2018, 15:17
Maybe Clinton was just too drunk when he first walked in, or maybe the smell of freshly-baked cookies was just too strong, but I’m kinda surprised he didn’t notice the smell of pot right away.

He might just possibly have had a few other things on his mind. He's turned up at his mum's house drunk (though maybe not for the first time) and with a female in tow (it seems that might well be a first time).

Yes, 'too drunk', not in the sense that he couldn't smell the pot at all, but in the sense that it took him a few minutes to realise that home wasn't normally the place to find that familiar smell.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 15:46
Clinton's mom *is* cuter. 

(my opinion may be shaped by the fact that I'm a whole lot closer to her age than his)
Same here. My own kids are almost exactly the same age as Claire and Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2018, 17:53
Clinton's mom *is* cuter. 

(my opinion may be shaped by the fact that I'm a whole lot closer to her age than his)
To some of us, she's a (much) younger woman.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Shremedy on 05 Apr 2018, 19:10
Melon is sentient, she just comes at reality at an oblique angle.

That way she can flank it, and gain advantage when she attacks.

So far, she and reality are engaged in an intense existential battle, and reality has yet to land a decisive blow.

I'd say the same applies to Raven...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Shremedy on 05 Apr 2018, 19:17
We've definitely learned that Claire came by her tendencies honestly.  All the girl needs is a decade or three to learn some finesse.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Apr 2018, 19:18
I suspect that the clock, considered as a normal timepiece, was perfectly fine. But some auxiliary function (like the tides predictor or the phase of the moon) was off, and that's what Brün fixed. Trust ClintonMom to have an interesting clock.

And it's never too late to have a happy teenhood.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 19:20
Melon is sentient, she just comes at reality at an oblique angle.

That way she can flank it, and gain advantage when she attacks.

So far, she and reality are engaged in an intense existential battle, and reality has yet to land a decisive blow.

I'd say the same applies to Raven...
Melon had to have her butt replaced... Advantage: Raven
Raven does not have internal Google capability... Advantage: Melon
Melon successfully tunneled into Steve's house. Raven failed to break into CoD via the roof... Advantage: Melon
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 19:22
R.I.P. Shelby  :'(
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 21:15
Mom A is oblique, Clinton is objecting, and Brun is oblivious.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: JacobArduino on 05 Apr 2018, 21:43
Do we have an age for Mme. Augustus? I'd say she's almost certainly between Jim (41) and Veronica (56), and I'm beginning to suspect the lower end of that range...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 05 Apr 2018, 22:10
Do we have an age for Mme. Augustus? I'd say she's almost certainly between Jim (41) and Veronica (56), and I'm beginning to suspect the lower end of that range...
Considering her comment about being a goody two-shoes when she was young, I would guess she finished college, then got married, and then had the kids. So I would think she was at least 22 or 23 when Claire was born - assuming she was 18 when she finished high school and went to college for four years. Claire is 24 now, so my guess is that Mom A is at least 46 or 47. My own son is almost 25, and I am almost 48, so my guess is also based on my own personal experience.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: foolsguinea on 05 Apr 2018, 22:57
Oh, no, Shelby!

Losing a dog generally hurts.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 05 Apr 2018, 22:57
You're assuming she went to college. Depending on how she was raised, being a goody two shoes may not have involved that at all. She strikes me as someone who married very young. My guess would be right out of high school.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Apr 2018, 23:20
There is so much subtext in today's comic. It's pretty clear that Mrs A is interpreting everything the way that she wants to interpret it. However, she doesn't have to go as far as you might think.

The reason why I say that is because I think that there is a lot of subtext to Brun's innocuous statement: "Clinton... is nice." You could probably write an essay about it but I'll settle for this: That pause makes me think that Brun was struggling to find the right words to express her feelings without saying something that she is worried might be offensive to one of Clinton's family. As the word she eventually used was 'nice', I imagine she was rejecting something like 'attractive' or even 'desirable' (meaning the whole Clinton Augustus package, nobility, honesty and the way he tries to work on her terms as well as being physically attractive to her too).

Panel 4 is wonderful because Brun has that lovely 'human interaction rules sometimes defeat me' expression. I think that, based on Mrs A's misinterpretation of being told that Clinton smelling nice she's suddenly realised why Elliott may have misinterpreted her smelling Clinton earlier.

Meanwhile, poor Clinton's blood pressure surely can't spike any more than it does in panel 4, can it?

Finally, I suspect that Mrs A is rapidly approaching that moment in her life where every word she says to Clinton and Claire is 'grand-babies'.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: traroth on 06 Apr 2018, 00:54
Unrealistically oblivious character not aware of being lusted by other character...

That pattern happens far too often in QC.

Hopefully, the "eternal cliffhanger" pattern will be more rare...










(Sorry about your dog, Jeph. She seemed nice)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 06 Apr 2018, 02:58
Poor Jeph and Shelby. That's really sad. Dogs are great.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Apr 2018, 03:00
Hopefully, the "eternal cliffhanger" pattern will be more rare...

I'm not sure if 'eternal cliffhanger' is accurate. The problem with the daily sequential art format is that things are passing with interminable slowness from the perspective of a daily reader. However, having been reading the bound volumes, I've noticed that Jeph's work tends to fit roughly into 'episodic' arc, that can be many dozen strips long and that an episode focusing on one group of characters can then be followed by an episode focussing on another group of characters, leading to weeks or even months before you pick up when the last episode left off with the first set of characters.

So, yes, I'm thinking that we're going to work towards an end to this 'episode', possibly with Clinton asleep in his old room and Brun sleeping next to him because she doesn't want to go back to Renee's place so late and can't sleep very well without something familiar close by (or that's what she says anyway). Then, we'll start the next week back with Faye and Bubbles... or maybe Marten and Claire.... or maybe Hannelore and Winslow. In any event, it could be 6-12 weeks before we catch up with what happens to Clinton and Brun (let alone poor Elliott!).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: incurablygeek on 06 Apr 2018, 05:40
Affection to Jeph on the loss of a beloved member of the family.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: wlewisiii on 06 Apr 2018, 05:46
So, yes, I'm thinking that we're going to work towards an end to this 'episode', possibly with Clinton asleep in his old room and Brun sleeping next to him because she doesn't want to go back to Renee's place so late and can't sleep very well without something familiar close by (or that's what she says anyway).

IOW, rather like the night of the wedding with Claire and Marten?  I could see that being an interesting parallel to take.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Apr 2018, 05:48
Losing a dog can be tough. I still mourn a dog who died 12 years ago this summer.

Clinton's mom sure seems to take delight in gently nudging shoving her kids in the direction of potential partners.

And yeah, she's long overdue for her own canonical name. "Clarice" is only barely satisfactory as my headcanon name for her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 06 Apr 2018, 06:55
Mom A is oblique, Clinton is objecting, and Brun is oblivious.
The Oblique, the Objecting and the Oblivious ...... and the cat
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 06 Apr 2018, 08:00
I'm sorry to hear of Shelby's passing, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Welu on 06 Apr 2018, 08:16
Sorry for your loss, Jeph. Rest in peace, Shelby.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: CPUGuy1 on 06 Apr 2018, 09:18
Brun, Clinton, Elliot - these three are prone to hinder each other into a relationship.  But I'm sure they will be happy with someone, one day.

ouch ... I am sorry for your loss
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 06 Apr 2018, 09:59
My condolences, Jeph, on your loss.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Tormuse on 06 Apr 2018, 11:02
I just dropped by to express condolences for your loss, Jeph.  Rest in peace, Shelby.  You were a good doggy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 06 Apr 2018, 12:38
The reason why I say that is because I think that there is a lot of subtext to Brun's innocuous statement: "Clinton... is nice." You could probably write an essay about it but I'll settle for this: That pause makes me think that Brun was struggling to find the right words to express her feelings without saying something that she is worried might be offensive to one of Clinton's family. As the word she eventually used was 'nice', I imagine she was rejecting something like 'attractive' or even 'desirable' (meaning the whole Clinton Augustus package, nobility, honesty and the way he tries to work on her terms as well as being physically attractive to her too).
I didn’t get the impression that she’s thinking about whether she’s being offensive. I get the impression that Brun quite often has trouble putting words in the right order or thinking of the correct word to use. I suspect that’s a big part of the reason she stops talking at all when she gets overly stressed or angry. The words are constantly in disarray in her mind, and the more stressed she is, the harder it is to sort out the mess and spit out a coherent sentence. I have experienced the same problem myself, but for me it was a temporary issue.


She may have been trying to find a word that is so much more descriptive - telling exactly how Clinton is nice (chivalrous, noble, honorable, trustworthy, gracious, generous, caring, etc.) - but couldn’t come up with the one she wanted, so after thinking for a second, she simply settled for “nice”.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3711 to 3715 (2nd-6th April 2018)
Post by: Storel on 06 Apr 2018, 13:15
Aaaaand the joke is dead.
No it's not!
It's getting better.
It's just pining for the fjords!



My sympathies to Jeph for the loss of Shelby. Losing a member of the family is always hard.