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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Gyrre on 15 Apr 2018, 01:04
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I wasn't expecting to do the WCDT 2 weeks in a row, but sure why not?
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I've loved Hannelore from her first appearance. Her suffering, her strength, her courage, her self-deprecating humour and the sheer determination she has had to drag herself out of what was close to total mental incapacitation is wonderful. She's a real heroine in what is otherwise mostly a story of ordinary folk.
It helps that I also think her as cute and lovable in most ways. :-)
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I just hope we get to a story where everyones involved and not just this aimless wandering around that's been going on since the end of the last Hannelore story and then the marigold and her boyfriend thing thing .... (I'm horrible remembering names so ...)
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He's Dale, and I agree Jeph has a lot of plates spinning.
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Even Bubbles has a hard time telling when Faye is joking. ;D
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*slaps forehead*
Of course! Marigold. I forgot to include Marigold in the poll!
Fixed now.
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Don't leave Roko out in the cold.
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Did I miss something? Is this a Twitter-related thing regarding the characters or is it a characters' personalities poll?
And I can't wait to see what Jeph does with that little cliffhanger in the Friday's strip- Emily's ready for more unintentional awkwardness!
*edit* so much for that, we have to wait a day or two to find out what's going on with Clinton/Emily!
On a side note...as funny as it was, I think Melon might have actually had a good reason for her stopping by now- arms that move on their own might mean that there really are robot penises that can move on their own and likely become detached!
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Surprised to see so little love for Claire.
Also: diggin' the overalls, Faye.
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Don't leave Roko out in the cold.
Have we really had all that many strips focused on her?
I was waffling as to whether or not include Momo and May.
And I frggin forgot Emily, too. Didn't I?
ADDENDUM : I'm thinking of scrapping the poll and starting it over.
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"Happy birthday, Grandma."
:facepalm: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Surprised to see so little love for Claire.
Also: diggin' the overalls, Faye.
It could be that since her she moved in with Marten she has had little character development and focus. Come to think of it, outside of her new piercing and needling her brother she hasn't had much to do with the strip in years. Clinton's been more of a central character than her, especially now that it's his third major arc since Claire's moving in with Marten...
I know it won't happen, but I'd just love a Clinton and Claire background storyline. We know next to noting about their family other than they hate Mr. Augustus and their parents divorced. It doesn't have to even address Claire's transition, I just really want to know...
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It probably says a lot about what Faye considers 'appropriate behaviour' that I had to double-check the archive to make sure my memory that Faye didn't actually customise Melon's pet dildo was accurate. Given that reflex response on my part, I can't blame Bubbles for not being sure! Then again, as this is Bubbles, you can't be sure if she's only pretending to have taken Faye's words seriously.
Meanwhile, the mostly-unconscious flirting between Bubbles and Faye goes on. If you have shipping goggles on, you might even view Faye's clothing choice in this strip as being a bit of a 'come on'.
Now, is it me or is there the potential here for a spin-off arc where Punchbot's arm goes crawling through Northampton, getting into various misadventures and occasionally delivering crushing right hooks to those who deserve it? Sort of a comedy vigilante version of The Crawling Hand.
EDIT - Fixed typo
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Now, is it me or is there the potential here for a spin-off arc where Punchbot's arm goes crawling Northampton, getting into various misadventures and occasionally delivering crushing right hooks to those who deserve it. Sort of a comedy vigilante version of The Crawling Hand.
All crawling in and having cereal with Melon and Steve... (I have no idea how a disembodied arm would have cereal, but I still like the idea)
May finds Punchbot's arm and somehow convinces it to take her to get Hank the Dismemberer's autograph...
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Yay more Robotics!
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Faye in overalls just flicked a switch for me that I didn't know I had on my dashboard.
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Faye in overalls just flicked a switch for me that I didn't know I had on my dashboard.
And now, inexplicably, you have a rear windscreen wiper and and screen wash jet going constantly and you can't make it stop!
That said, yeah, that outfit flatters Faye in lots of ways.
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There’s just something about the “farmer’s daughter” look that can’t be denied.
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*cough*bubblesinoveralls*cough*
Don't judge me, please.
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*cough*bubblesinoveralls*cough*
Don't judge me, please.
Can’t very well judge you... because now I’m thinking about Melon in overalls...
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Now, is it me or is there the potential here for a spin-off arc where Punchbot's arm goes crawling Northampton, getting into various misadventures and occasionally delivering crushing right hooks to those who deserve it. Sort of a comedy vigilante version of The Crawling Hand.
All crawling in and having cereal with Melon and Steve... (I have no idea how a disembodied arm would have cereal, but I still like the idea)
May finds Punchbot's arm and somehow convinces it to take her to get Hank the Dismemberer's autograph...
I am hoping Melon meets up with the wandering arm and gets into various adventures and hijinks with it.
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A prosthetic arm for a robot - we are becoming deliciously absurd.
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A prosthetic arm for a robot - we are becoming deliciously absurd.
Would it be considered a prosthetic or a transplant?
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I was thinking more along the lines of the trio
Punchbot's arm
Clin-ton's hand
Melon's butt
I have no idea what to call them ... well I do but there is no WAY I am posting any of those on a forum.
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Faye looks like my girlfriend in high school in that outfit, it's creepy.
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I really have to admit, I'd do the same thing if I were in her place, but Renee really is just being mean here.
Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
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I really have to admit, I'd do the same thing if I were in her place, but Renee really is just being mean here.
She is an asshole, after all.
Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
?!?!? Did I miss a strip?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh Renee - horrible mental image, but you did bring it on yourself, didn't you? :laugh:
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Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
?!?!? Did I miss a strip?
Sorry, is it bad form to comment on a strip before it is posted on the main site? I see them on Patreon, so I don't check the main site, but I could if I should.
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I was thinking more along the lines of the trio
Punchbot's arm
Clin-ton's hand
Melon's butt
I have no idea what to call them ... well I do but there is no WAY I am posting any of those on a forum.
That is one messed up game of grab-ass.
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Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
?!?!? Did I miss a strip?
Sorry, is it bad form to comment on a strip before it is posted on the main site? I see them on Patreon, so I don't check the main site, but I could if I should.
Absolutely.
It's a custom carefully observed and probably what the forum owner would want.
Sticking with the most important things, though, thank you for supporting the strip.
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Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
?!?!? Did I miss a strip?
Sorry, is it bad form to comment on a strip before it is posted on the main site? I see them on Patreon, so I don't check the main site, but I could if I should.
Yes. Absolutely do not talk about the patreon stuff/early strips on this site.
Elliot is going to wind up having a heart attack before the week's out at this rate.
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Great first impression Roko's making on Elliott. Assuming it is a first impression, which, judging by his generic greeting, it is.
?!?!? Did I miss a strip?
Sorry, is it bad form to comment on a strip before it is posted on the main site? I see them on Patreon, so I don't check the main site, but I could if I should.
(mod voice)
Very much so. I've moved the discussion of that strip to a place where it can be recovered when the next day's strip gets posted. It was too good to delete.
The idea is that it undercuts the whole idea of Patreon if anyone posts a discussion of the strip before it appears on the main site.
What's important, though, is that you're supporting the strip.
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So, after reading today' strip did anyone suddenly find themselves wondering what will happen if Brun and Melon meet? For that matter Melon and Augustusmom meeting is bound to be very interesting.
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And I almost choked to death on my lunch thanks to that last panel.
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Well, I had been wondering why someone commented "Happy birthday, Grandma" on yesterday's comic... :psyduck:
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A prosthetic arm for a robot - we are becoming deliciously absurd.
Would it be considered a prosthetic or a transplant?
Well, if he takes it off at night (or whenever he does a reboot-&-recharge or whatever he calls it), it'd be a prosthetic. (At least my amputee coworker took his prosthesis off when he wasn't working or when he wanted to freak someone out.) If it's from another android it's a transplant. If it's a custom made replacement to original specs it's a custom made replacement to original specs. If he already had it in the garage or wherever it's a spare.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C35xv-QXUAE3_3S.jpg:large)
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It's naked grampa time! (https://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1203#comic)
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Elliot is going to wind up having a heart attack before the week's out at this rate.
The second panel and the last panel almost look like he already did! It's the human equivalent of a driver conflict. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=123)
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Without lips Faye's face looks very much like Hannelore, only with different hair and glasses.
I'm still not sure if I like the new look. She looks much more adorable, which is a bit out of character, IMO.
Any oppinions on that here?
TM
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Brun's internal thought processes in today's strip are, IMO, something like this:
PANEL 3: "Hmm... Curious, I seem to have done something socially inappropriate here."
PANEL 4: "From Elliott's reaction and Renee's words, it appears like making timepieces sound like sexual characteristics is taboo somehow. However, given how I misinterpreted the whole 'smelling each other' thing, I'm not that sure I can trust this impression. I must verify before I go any further."
PANEL 5: "Taboo confirmed and registered on my 'socially inappropriate' mental index-file."
BTW, it is cute and in character that Brun wouldn't use slang terms but prefers to use medically-correct terminology. She has to, of course; otherwise, people might think she's talking about male birds!
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Brun's internal thought processes in today's strip are, IMO, something like this:
PANEL 3: "Hmm... Curious, I seem to have done something socially inappropriate here."
PANEL 4: "From Elliott's reaction and Renee's words, it appears like talking about parental and/or grand-parental sexual characteristics is taboo somehow. However, given how I misinterpreted the whole 'smelling each other' thing, I'm not that sure I can trust this impression. I must verify before I go any further."
PANEL 5: "Taboo confirmed and registered on my 'socially inappropriate' mental index-file."
PANEL 5: "Renee, this is for all those times you teased me. Elliott, sorry you got caught in the blast."
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Gotta say...
I just don't *get* today's strip...
(Maybe it's my age!) :)
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A grandfather clock is a big clock.
A grandfather cock, therefore...
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A grandfather cock, therefore...
Is evidently something that is a great threat to mental and emotional stability if thought about for too long... or at all.
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A grandfather clock is a big clock.
A grandfather cock, therefore...
therefore... why would that lead to the reactions were seeing?
Maybe it's just a gag... maybe I just don't see the humour in this one.
Oh well... :)
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A grandfather cock, therefore...
Is evidently something that is a great threat to mental and emotional stability if thought about for too long... or at all.
Yeah, that's how it seems...
Which is why I'm not getting it.
For a strip that's guns-out, respect for all both human and NON-Human...
I found it a bit... just not funny, that mentioning the fact that older men (32 at the (legal) extreme young side)... have penises!!!! results in the extreme reactions shown.
Like I said... maybe it's an age thing... :)
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It works inclusively of grandfathers if the horrified reactions in the last panel are reactions to Brun continuing to talk about genitals when everyone thought the conversation had moved to the less emotionally charged topic of timepieces. "Cursed phrase!" would fit on that reading.
Making fun of our culture's bizarre twitchiness about those sweet grandparents having sexuality is another possibility.
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Let's leave the poor frog alone (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/440683-explaining-a-joke-is-like-dissecting-a-frog-you-understand), shall we?
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It works inclusively of grandfathers if the horrified reactions in the last panel are reactions to Brun continuing to talk about genitals when everyone thought the conversation had moved to the less emotionally charged topic of timepieces. "Cursed phrase!" would fit on that reading.
Making fun of our culture's bizarre twitchiness about those sweet grandparents having sexuality is another possibility.
To me, it's the combination of the two. Kind of a "tactical TMI" kind of thing.
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Gotta say...
I just don't *get* today's strip...
(Maybe it's my age!) :)
So I'm not the only one. Good to know...
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Gotta say...
I just don't *get* today's strip...
(Maybe it's my age!) :)
So I'm not the only one. Good to know...
Dito
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After giving it a long, hard think, I finally *got* todays strip. Too long and hard to think it's funny anymore. Maybe there are too many metaphorical levels in this.
So for me the frog is dead now. Sorry, Sam. :wink:
TM
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Wait, are people talking about the Patreon comic again? I don't see any frogs in today's comic.
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Hello Cesium,
it refers to Tovas posting here:
Let's leave the poor frog alone (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/440683-explaining-a-joke-is-like-dissecting-a-frog-you-understand), shall we?
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That's a pretty awesome callback by Jeph at the bottom of yesterday's comic.
For the unaware, see #810 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=810)
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I'm puzzled that there are people who feel this needs explanation...
That's a pretty awesome callback by Jeph at the bottom of yesterday's comic.
You mean today's comic (as we don't discuss Patreon pre-releases here).
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Yeah, I thought today's comic was pretty straightforward.
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I'm puzzled that there are people who feel this needs explanation...
That's a pretty awesome callback by Jeph at the bottom of yesterday's comic.
You mean today's comic (as we don't discuss Patreon pre-releases here).
They may have called it "yesterday's comic" since I screwed up and mentioned it a day early. I'll take the blame for that, and I've learned my lesson. But I went and looked at lots of cat gifs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2286), and I feel better now.
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This may not be the spot for this comment since it's more generic than specific to the current week's arc. So somebody tell me where it should have gone if you wish.
My comment is this (and I've been thinking this for many years of QC). How the hell does Jeph manage to come up with such a compelling story and quality daily strips day after day? I read many other quality strips and there are always occasional arcs of weakness or irrelevancy. But not here. Every day I read the strip and I'm never disappointed. It's unnatural. He's superhuman.
There, that's all I have to say right now. Thanks.
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Without lips Faye's face looks very much like Hannelore, only with different hair and glasses.
You think the two characters were drawn by the same artist. ;)
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I'm puzzled that there are people who feel this needs explanation...
That's a pretty awesome callback by Jeph at the bottom of yesterday's comic.
You mean today's comic (as we don't discuss Patreon pre-releases here).
Yes, thank you, of course I meant today's and was confused by the earlier conversation. At least I didn't discuss the Patreon comic ;)
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Brun tilts her head curiously, like a dog or Michael Meyers.
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Funny parody of the Grandfather Clock song, brought to mind by all this.
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After giving it a long, hard think, I finally *got* todays strip. Too long and hard to think it's funny anymore
(https://i.imgur.com/ohYY5.jpg?1)
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I feel like adding a "recurring gags" category to the QC wiki.
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Brun tilts her head curiously, like a dog or Michael Meyers.
...the difference between the two being nought but a little facial hair.
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So is going to the bakery a STEAMY experience for her? :-P
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Roko like big buns and she cannot lie.
(no, not glutes, actual buns.)
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This is one time I wish QC was animated. I want to see how Renee approached. Was she like, at the other end of the counter and just slid on down. Or was she under the counter and slooowly raised herself up when she heard Roko talking. My money is on the latter due to the rule of funny.
Also, people have been wondering when Roko and Elliot will meet. There you go. Now all we need is some overly contrived reason how Elliot loses his shirt or raises it up so Roko can see his human abs and cause the poor girl to collapse. Roko.exe has encountered a sexy error and shut down.
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Roko like big buns and she cannot lie.
(no, not glutes, actual buns.)
I'm sure she could get a bread golem that is most definitely NOT glute-in free though ;)
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"Excuse me sir, is that a baguette in your pants or are you just happy to see me?"
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Man, Roko's sure turned cartoony in a hurry compared to her intro.
Not necessarily a bad thing, just sorta...unexpected.
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I wonder which bread is the kinkiest bread.
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I wonder which bread is the kinkiest bread.
As I understand it, bagle dough is the most difficult to knead. Does that count?
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"I like warm buns and I cannot lie, you other AIs can't deny,
When a baker walks in with a freshly baked tray or a full loaf in your face
your vents steam!"
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Also, still hearing Tara Strong's voice every time Roko speaks. I don't even watch My little pony, but it's embedded in there now.
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Roko's just trying to get a rise out of Elliott, and Renee is kneadlessly interfering.
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Also, still hearing Tara Strong's voice every time Roko speaks. I don't even watch My little pony, but it's embedded in there now.
Tara Strong is the voice of, like, everyone, unless it's Wendee Lee. At least as of around the turn of the decade, I haven't heard either of them recently that I can recall.
Tara as Presea in Tales of Symphonia is what her voice I hear on my head.
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"Excuse me sir, is that a baguette in your pants or are you just happy to see me?"
Does she get excited at seeing a muffin top or is she just a buns lover?
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So basically "I am Bread" is like an Eroge game for her.
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Ok so apparently Melonpan bread is a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melonpan and that opens up a whole new world of puns and jokes I just now got
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Careful Rene. She’s got a badge and not afraid to use it to get out of an embarrassing situation.
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It's spelt "Renee."
I care about bread somewhere between the normal amount and the Roko amount.
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Oh, you had to bring spelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt) into it...
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I've loved Hannelore from her first appearance. Her suffering, her strength, her courage, her self-deprecating humour and the sheer determination she has had to drag herself out of what was close to total mental incapacitation is wonderful. She's a real heroine in what is otherwise mostly a story of ordinary folk.
It helps that I also think her as cute and lovable in most ways. :-)
This. All of this. I so want her to find someone she can cuddle with. Sweet little cherub ^w^
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I was hoping it didn't need to be explained. Oh well. :cry:
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Well, here we see Trooper Basilisk failing on 'inconspicuous' and 'subtle'. I'm guessing that this is why she's never made full detective!
Seriously, though, everything that I'm seeing here suggests that this is something that she's never done before. With everything that's happened to her recently, I think that her need has been amplified to the point where she's finally taking the plunge and going for it, whether or not she's got someone to share with her. Still, for her, going into a bakery is close to going to a sex shop and it's genuinely funny to see her reacting to bread the way a teenage boy would to his first sight of hardcore stuff.
Oh, I love that nervous smile in panel 5! :lol:
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Baked good romances never pan out
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I'm just wondering what that vented coolant will do to the bread. Of course, if it's neutral enough, she might get to help baking baguettes and such.
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#NoKinkShameHere :)
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Roko's smile in the fifth panel... Priceless.
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Brun continuing to talk about genitals
She isn't continuing. You see her working out what she must have said unawares, and then constructing a joke around it when everyone else has moved on. She's the one doing the over-analysing.
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I think that she was also testing if her understanding about what is 'gross' and 'socially inappropriate' was correct.
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So - Roko sees herself between two big, warm, brown buns? :evil:
"Renee's seen this kind of thing before." - and Elliot doesn't seem too surprised either -
is there some kind of weird AI "thing" for baked goods in the QC Universe?
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Well, the AI version of Tinder that paired Roko with Pintsize apparently had a checkable option in the profile generation page for 'likes baked goods in non-culinary ways' so I'm guessing the answer to that is 'yes'!
FWIW, I suspect it's a combination of scent triggering their pleasure subroutines and also something to do with how the texture of bread causes their dermal contact sensors to respond.
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If this is Roko's reaction to just the Naming of Bread (there's a song in there somewhere!) then dear Glob, keep her away from any form of Tiger loaf!
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This is something I actually quite like in this universe, that the AI's have utterly non-sequitur fetishes. I'd be interested to learn how this developed. I mean, is it some random repeating "bug" in the code? Does some programmer throw a dart at a giant wall of encyclopedia entries and then program in whatever he lands on for each AI? (Or does the AI code itself do that "virtually", when the AI is born?)
And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
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And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
Roko doesn't want just a casual hook-up or sexual encounter. As she explained to O'Malley, she wants a relationship with an emotional and personal connection too. Pintsize made it abundantly clear that he was only interested in doing something kinky, transgressive and physical with Roko there and then.
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This is something I actually quite like in this universe, that the AI's have utterly non-sequitur fetishes. I'd be interested to learn how this developed. I mean, is it some random repeating "bug" in the code? Does some programmer throw a dart at a giant wall of encyclopedia entries and then program in whatever he lands on for each AI? (Or does the AI code itself do that "virtually", when the AI is born?)
And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
Yeah, I wondered about that as well.
She got exactly what she asked for!
And I pretty much came to the conclusion you do above.
It's all well and good that she is aware of her 'kink', she just doesn't seem keen to have that 'kink' arise in public.
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This is something I actually quite like in this universe, that the AI's have utterly non-sequitur fetishes. I'd be interested to learn how this developed. I mean, is it some random repeating "bug" in the code? Does some programmer throw a dart at a giant wall of encyclopedia entries and then program in whatever he lands on for each AI? (Or does the AI code itself do that "virtually", when the AI is born?)
And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
I think you could just as well ask the question "how do humans get their fetishes", and then trace that back to a plausible theory for AI's. From what we see of AI's in this comic, AI's have personalities and other preferences that I'd imagine didn't get "programmed in" but developed over time. I would imagine that AI fetish would be a result of a somewhat similar process in humans; some sort of transference of feelings from sexual environments to other stuff that has build up a connection through a (series of) life events, in which the (AI) brain starts to associate this 'object'/thing with a sexual nature.
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Oh, you had to bring spelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt) into it...
While a pun, it's still grammatically correct.
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Jeph said nobody knows why the AIs have libidos at all.
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Oh, you had to bring spelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt) into it...
While a pun, it's still grammatically correct.
No bun intented.
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Now that Roko and Elliot have met, I'm curious what will happen...
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A grandfather clock is a big clock.
A grandfather cock, therefore...
therefore... why would that lead to the reactions were seeing?
Maybe it's just a gag... maybe I just don't see the humour in this one.
Oh well... :)
Well I don't know about you, but given Brun's timepiece hobby and penchant for bad puns, I can only find Renee's response to be appropriately "horror logical". :claireface:
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And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
Roko doesn't want just a casual hook-up or sexual encounter. As she explained to O'Malley, she wants a relationship with an emotional and personal connection too. Pintsize made it abundantly clear that he was only interested in doing something kinky, transgressive and physical with Roko there and then.
I think it may also have something to do with Pintsize trying to skip all the preliminaries, and go straight to home base. He wasn’t even answering her questions. It’d be like boy meets girl, girl says “Hi, my name’s Jane”, and boy whips out his cock. I’m kinda surprised Roko managed to stay seated as long as she did.
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First of all, yesterday's strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3722) made me laugh a bunch.
Second, I wonder if Roko's interest in bread might be related with the differences in how robots have sensory experiences. They don't generally eat but we know they can have very intricate senses of smell, and can get pleasure or displeasure from different scents.
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I wonder which bread is the kinkiest bread.
Challa is certainly a candidate.
(http://foodparsed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/make-challah-bread-6-stranded-braid-loaf-1024x425.jpg)
Roko's smile in the fifth panel... Priceless.
Agreed. She spends her time trying to keep herself buttoned up and squared away, and with that smile the facade has dropped. It's got to be one of the most expressive faces Jeph has drawn to date.
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It's spelt "Renee."
I care about bread somewhere between the normal amount and the Roko amount.
I’m working with a tiny screen and auto correct. Don’t know how the kids manage.
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"I blame autoconnect for all hippos" is making the rounds.
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"I blame autoconnect for all hippos" is making the rounds.
I would say I hate hippos but I don't want to sound like a speciesist... or a typist.
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TBH, I feel about sourdough quite the same way as she does about it.
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Even small hippos can be destructive. A friend of mine made one the other day inviting a group of us to have lunch at her river horse.
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Calm down, guys. This whole bread thing is just a metaphor.
Yeast is -alive-, which is why bread rises.
Also, Pintsize and cake batter. See?
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Calm down, guys. This whole bread thing is just a metaphor.
Yeast is -alive-, which is why bread rises.
Also, Pintsize and cake batter. See?
A: Roko's bread "thing" is not a metaphor, it's a fetish.
B: Once the bread has been baked, the yeast is dead. All of the rising happens before it's put in the oven.
C: Cake batter is nothing like bread dough, and contains no yeast. It rises while baking because of the baking powder.
D: What were you getting at anyway?
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Was not aware that Tai lived that close to the Bakery. But then I suppose pretty much everything is "close", relatively speaking.
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I've loved Hannelore from her first appearance. Her suffering, her strength, her courage, her self-deprecating humour and the sheer determination she has had to drag herself out of what was close to total mental incapacitation is wonderful. She's a real heroine in what is otherwise mostly a story of ordinary folk.
It helps that I also think her as cute and lovable in most ways. :-)
This. All of this. I so want her to find someone she can cuddle with. Sweet little cherub ^w^
Hopefully the excess of eyes, wings, and legs isn't too off-putting for her.
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This is something I actually quite like in this universe, that the AI's have utterly non-sequitur fetishes. I'd be interested to learn how this developed. I mean, is it some random repeating "bug" in the code? Does some programmer throw a dart at a giant wall of encyclopedia entries and then program in whatever he lands on for each AI? (Or does the AI code itself do that "virtually", when the AI is born?)
And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
We barely understand how humans develop fetishes, but there are a few hypotheses floating around. It's just a matter of coming up with a proposed experiment an ethics committee would allow.
Even small hippos can be destructive. A friend of mine made one the other day inviting a group of us to have lunch at her river horse.
Kelpie level or each-uisge level?
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Even small hippos can be destructive. A friend of mine made one the other day inviting a group of us to have lunch at her river horse.
Now I have this bizarre mental picture of a tiny hippopotamus figurine with a sign around its neck saying "PARTY AT MY PLACE (this message will self destruct in 5-4-3...)". o_O
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Go visit Brun Clinton. I'm totally shipping Roko and Elliot and as soon as you're an item Elliot can bake Roko a cake :wink:
I'm not entirely sure if that's innuendo for anything, but it would be a nice gesture all the same.
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This is something I actually quite like in this universe, that the AI's have utterly non-sequitur fetishes. I'd be interested to learn how this developed. I mean, is it some random repeating "bug" in the code? Does some programmer throw a dart at a giant wall of encyclopedia entries and then program in whatever he lands on for each AI? (Or does the AI code itself do that "virtually", when the AI is born?)
And I'm quite sure this has been discussed at length, but what was Roko's problem with Pintsize then, since he came exactly as advertised, which she "swiped right" on in the first place? Was it just the inappropriate venue, him doing it in the very public restaurant, since she's basically "in the closet" about her fetish?
We barely understand how humans develop fetishes, but there are a few hypotheses floating around. It's just a matter of coming up with a proposed experiment an ethics committee would allow.
Someone, perhaps an E-C Enterprises employee, at some point was trying to address the question of how and why people develop fetishes with a computer model using company resources. For whatever reason, maybe a storage device that didn't get wiped prior to being used for a major build, snippets of that code found their way into the Creche Operating System. The unnamed researcher is no closer to an answer, but they now observe that AIs develop them right along with meat people. The catastrophic contamination turns out to have made AIs much closer to being emotionally human.
Or not.
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Or perhaps it was just a "Hey y'all, watch this!" moment up on the space station. For a bunch of nerdy super-geniuses, they know how to party.
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So, how many of the local bread fetishists do Renee know? Is she their dealer and, if so, how big is her customer base? :police:
I really love panel 3. It maybe in the eye of the beholder. However, to me, Brun seems to be a wee bit jealous of Elliott spending time seeing to Roko's sexual needs, no matter how peripherally. Maybe she wants that level of attention from Elliott too? If I'm interpreting this correctly, this is the first hint we've got that she wants that kind of attention from him.
As for poor Roko? Well, not only has she run into the best way she is going to get to fill in the blank 'Human Abs.jpg' file in her memory but also the person that she really would like to have rub bread on parts of her. Given that she's already overheated once today, you can't help but wonder if she's going to make it back home unaided. I've got to say that she needs help soon or she's going to melt down! :laugh:
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Yeah, go ahead, feed the birds in the park! Be assured they will give it back to you by crapping on cars, balconies and people!
Sorry, I live in Paris... Pidgins are like friggin' flying rats.
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I don't think feeding the birds was what Roko had in mind.
Not that I'm venturing any kind of guess as to what she really wants to do with those loaves.
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A grandfather clock is a big clock.
A grandfather cock, therefore...
therefore... why would that lead to the reactions were seeing?
Maybe it's just a gag... maybe I just don't see the humour in this one.
Oh well... :)
Well I don't know about you, but given Brun's timepiece hobby and penchant for bad puns, I can only find Renee's response to be appropriately "horror logical". :claireface:
See... THAT was funny! :)
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I don't think feeding the birds was what Roko had in mind.
Not that I'm venturing any kind of guess as to what she really wants to do with those loaves.
I know. I'm happy JJ is not inflicting us the visual realisation of said kink. But I have to confess I'm actually curious...
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Oh, but Jeph already did: http://jephjacques.com/post/153991088855/roko-unwinds
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I'll never be able to see panel two of comic 1999 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) the same way again.
I always wondered how that toaster got so much job satisfaction.
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"I blame autoconnect for all hippos" is making the rounds.
Thank you for the new signature.
I'll never be able to see panel two of comic 1999 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) the same way again.
I always wondered how that toaster got so much job satisfaction.
I don't know about you, but being a toaster sounds like a simple, easy life. I could live quite happily as a toaster so long as I had an internet connection in my head.
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Plenty of people love baking. I imagine it is similar for our toaster friends.
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It was a joke! I love baking too.
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As for poor Roko? Well, not only has she run into the best way she is going to get to fill in the blank 'Human Abs.jpg' file in her memory but also the person that she really would like to have rub bread on parts of her. Given that she's already overheated once today, you can't help but wonder if she's going to make it back home unaided. I've got to say that she needs help soon or she's going to melt down! :laugh:
Hmmm.... Clinton has a knack for helping damsels in distress. If Roko needs help getting home, and he offers, she may have to admit to him her earlier fantasy - if only to prevent that meltdown! Then again, he might then offer to make her fantasy come true, which might make her melt down... decisions, decisions...
Yeah, go ahead, feed the birds in the park! Be assured they will give it back to you by crapping on cars, balconies and people!
Sorry, I live in Paris... Pidgins are like friggin' flying rats.
Pigeons are like flying rats no matter where you live. Vile creatures.
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Oh, but Jeph already did: http://jephjacques.com/post/153991088855/roko-unwinds (http://jephjacques.com/post/153991088855/roko-unwinds)
So, is a non-sentient toaster like a sex toy for a bread fetishist?
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
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So, is a non-sentient toaster like a sex toy for a bread fetishist?
If it involves butter and Vegemite, it just might be.
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Oh, but Jeph already did: http://jephjacques.com/post/153991088855/roko-unwinds
I will never be able to see my toaster the same way...
So it's all about toast, actually...
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
He's looking for Brun...
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
He's looking for Brun...
Who, IMO, is making it quite clear that she'll simulate a bread fetish if it will get her Elliott's attention.
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
He's looking for Brun...
Who, IMO, is making it quite clear that she'll simulate a bread fetish if it will get her Elliott's attention.
I don't think she's trying to get anyone's attention. She just likes bread. Like in "she likes to eat bread".
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We didn't see the whole bread sale transaction. It must have been something, in an awkward kind of way...
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
He's looking for Brun...
Who, IMO, is making it quite clear that she'll simulate a bread fetish if it will get her Elliott's attention.
I think you might be reading too much into Brun's comment.
I think she simply stated that she likes bread (as in, eating/baking/making sandwiches/etc) to indicate that it's not that much of a stretch for somebody to REALLY be into bread....To me at least it did not seem to be an attempt to simulate a fetish, nor necessarily to gain Elliot's attention (attention in general, maybe...?)
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Mmmm, bread. Maybe Roko used to be a toaster.
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To me, it just seems that Brun sometimes wants to contribute to the conversation, but is a bit lost as to how to properly do so.
Anyway, I think Roko has a bit more than tuppence worth in that bag.
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Anyway, I think Roko has a bit more than tuppence worth in that bag.
Inflation, you know. It takes a bit more than tuppence to buy a bag of bread these days.
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Mmmm, bread. Maybe Roko used to be a toaster.
Or maybe she wants to be a toaster to, you know, get bread-fucked on a regular basis... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2908)
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Perhaps we need to introduce Roko to Talkie Toaster from Red Dwarf.
Hmmm.. On second thought that would probably go off at least as bad as the date with Pintsize.
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Roko fantasizes about being sandwiched. Literally.
Hurry up and get her into some kind of intimate relationship, Jeph. That poor woman needs a cybergasm in the worst way, so much that it's getting painful to watch.
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Just a sign of how much QC has changed: in the last 30 comics, we have had exactly one appearance by one of the original main characters (Faye, in Monday’s comic.)
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When is the last time we saw Marten?
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When is the last time we saw Marten?
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3672
Only time this year that he appeared at all.
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In the last 100 comics, Marten has appeared 7 times (http://cesiumcomics.com/qctags/?tag=marten&min=3624), mostly during the Tilly/Taffy story.
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Mmmm, bread. Maybe Roko used to be a toaster.
Actually, we know she didn't. She said she's had the same body since she was born.
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i mss hannelore so, so, much. i know she needed to get away from life for a moment, but i just miss my little anxious baby a lot.
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Comic's up. So now do we get to see if Faye can vent steam as well? :o
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That was pretty much my same/own thought.
(FWEEEEEEE)
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AND of COURSE she runs into Clinton. :-D :laugh: :lol:
He's looking for Brun...
Who, IMO, is making it quite clear that she'll simulate a bread fetish if it will get her Elliott's attention.
Hmmmm. Is that what that was? I interpreted it as trying to inject herself into the conversation, and doing so by awkwardly relating it to herself, as that's the easiest/quickest thing to understand. Hence Renee's dismissive "we know, dear" - essentially telling her that she wasn't adding anything and she didn't need to be involved. As I've said before, though, my interpretation is not necessarily the correct, or best, one.
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To me, it just seems that Brun sometimes wants to contribute to the conversation, but is a bit lost as to how to properly do so.
Anyway, I think Roko has a bit more than tuppence worth in that bag.
Ah, this is pretty much how I took it. Also kudos for making me look up tuppence, but in my defense, it's apparently British.
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I definitely want to see what Bubs can do with her hips.
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Hell yea, more technical robot discussion, I love this part of the NOPE NOPE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR SURPRISE HYPEREXTENSION.
If it's within safe range of motion, why is there a "KRKK" sound effect?
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Faye spends her days immersed in robot bodies. In most cases she is probably as unshakable as a surgeon.
Does her reaction to Bubbles's range of motion imply that she's thinking of Bubbles as a human now?
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Hell yea, more technical robot discussion, I love this part of the NOPE NOPE DID NOT SIGN UP FOR SURPRISE HYPEREXTENSION.
If it's within safe range of motion, why is there a "KRKK" sound effect?
What, you've never cracked your elbow?
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I love it when Bubbles makes Faye squirm.
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It's a warning:
"This is outside the normal operating range. Try not to do it often."
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You know, sometimes I think that Faye does forget that Bubbles is a synthetic, not a human. I do think it is useful for her to have the occasional reminder that, whilst her friend is a person, she's not entirely like her, especially on a physical level. That said, I also think that Bubbles enjoys occasionally freaking Faye out. It tells me that, now she's getting over her various traumas, she has a very mischievous personality.
Another thing that tells us a lot about Bubbles' essential personality is panel 1. It isn't enough for her to fix Punchbot's arm (again). No, she wants to fix the underlying cause, specifically Punchbot liking to punch stuff with an unsuitable arm for the job. It think that it both shows the instincts of a true diagnostician and also the degree that she cares for her customers.
Finally, there's panel 4 (you didn't think that a Fayebles shipper like me would ignore that, did you? :wink: ). Mostly, Bubbles is teasing Faye but, as I read through the bound volumes of strips 1-1800, it does have the same feel as Faye's early teasing flirtation with Marten. So, yeah, she's flirting with Faye. Whether she's fully consciously aware of the subtext to what she's doing is another matter entirely. Also, Faye maybe wants to see what Bubbles can do with her hips. :-D
Jeph definitely enjoys teasing us!
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(https://relationshipsadvice.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/key-to-a-happy-marriage.jpg)
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Looks like Bubs is getting ready to make a move...
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You know what her hips don't do? Lie.
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Faye spends her days immersed in robot bodies. In most cases she is probably as unshakable as a surgeon.
Does her reaction to Bubbles's range of motion imply that she's thinking of Bubbles as a human now?
Possibly that, and/or because she cares for her on a deep emotional level seeing any kind of apparent injury or trauma will naturally distress her.
Also that last panel teases so hard it HURTS!! >.<
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Of course you want to see what Bubbles can do with her hips, Faye... :wink:
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Why isn't Faye blushing in panel 4? Well, seriously, would you blush whilst still recovering from seeing your friend seemingly dislocate and then relocate their shoulder without a flinch?
Give Faye a few seconds (or a strip or two, IRL) to process what Bubbles said and her own reply.
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Why isn't Faye blushing in panel 4? Well, seriously, would you blush whilst still recovering from seeing your friend seemingly dislocate and then relocate their shoulder without a flinch?
Give Faye a few seconds (or a strip or two, IRL) to process what Bubbles said and her own reply.
So, you're expecting...
...The slip of her hips make Faye's heart skip a beat?
(Too obscure?)
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Bubbles has no tattoos, though.
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Oh, I'm sure Bubbles has skin decorations. They say things like "Rotate Clockwise to Tighten", "Storage Compartment Access - Keep Clear" and "External Power (120V DC) Jack Here".
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Them hips don't lie! :-D
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And I'm on tonight you know my hips don't lie
And I'm starting to feel it's right
All the attraction, the tension
Don't you see baby, this is perfection
Hey Girl, I can see your body moving
And it's driving me crazy
And I didn't have the slightest idea
Until I saw you dancing
And when you walk up on the dance floor
Nobody cannot ignore
The way you move your body, girl (just move)
And everything so unexpected, the way you right and left it
So you can keep on shaking it
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Oh, I'm sure Bubbles has skin decorations. They say things like "Rotate Clockwise to Tighten", "Storage Compartment Access - Keep Clear" and "External Power (120V DC) Jack Here".
I could see her having something like, "Ammunition Storage" on each bicep.
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Damn near impossible to read Faye's reactions as "just friends".
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Damn near impossible to read Faye's reactions as "just friends".
Jeph knew exactly what he was doing by posting this on Friday. He knows readers are going to obsess all weekend about what exactly it means.
Then on Monday he'll post another Melon page to let us suffer a bit more before he shows the fallout on Tuesday.
(I'm probably wrong, but I'll laugh my head off if he does do that to the hardcore shippers that are barely kept at bay around here.)
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Damn near impossible to read Faye's reactions as "just friends".
Only because you already know the tension that's been going on in both of their heads. I've actually had a similar conversation with an extraordinarily flexible young dancer not long ago. I am quite certain when she said "look what I can do", she didn't mean anything other than that she was excited to show off her skills. And she was excited - like a kid who just learned to ride a bike, except she's been dancing since she was little. And there was no hidden meaning behind my enthusiasm whilst watching her. I really was just curious to see what she could do. She was actually similar to Bubbles in other ways as well. I had watched her go from a shy teenager with only a couple friends, to this outgoing young woman who loved being around people. I am proud that I had a small part in that transformation.
Besides, everyone - including Faye - has been quite impressed by Bubbles' booty, so it's only natural that Faye would be curious what it's capable of. So if we weren't privy to what each of them has been thinking about the other, I wouldn't think this was any more than Faye saying "well, I didn't, but now that you brought it up, yeah, I kinda wanna see what you can do."
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Roko fantasizes about being sandwiched. Literally.
Hurry up and get her into some kind of intimate relationship, Jeph. That poor woman needs a cybergasm in the worst way, so much that it's getting painful to watch.
So long as vore isn't involved. (If you don't know what it is, you're better off not knowing.)
(Seriously, how does a kink like that happen?)
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After archive binging over the past week, I think Faybles shippers should be very careful what they wish for... there seems to be an exclusion principle governing the relationships of Marten and Faye. If Faye and Bubbles get together, Marten and Claire are destined to break up, just like Marten/Claire broke up Faye/Angus, which broke up Marten/Dora. :psyduck:
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After archive binging over the past week, I think Faybles shippers should be very careful what they wish for... there seems to be an exclusion principle governing the relationships of Marten and Faye. If Faye and Bubbles get together, Marten and Claire are destined to break up, just like Marten/Claire broke up Faye/Angus, which broke up Marten/Dora. :psyduck:
I think you may be reading a little too much into it. At least I hope you are. I like Marten with Claire, but I don’t wish spinsterhood on Faye just to ensure that they don’t break up.
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After archive binging over the past week, I think Faybles shippers should be very careful what they wish for... there seems to be an exclusion principle governing the relationships of Marten and Faye. If Faye and Bubbles get together, Marten and Claire are destined to break up, just like Marten/Claire broke up Faye/Angus, which broke up Marten/Dora. :psyduck:
I think you may be reading a little too much into it. At least I hope you are. I like Marten with Claire, but I don’t wish spinsterhood on Faye just to ensure that they don’t break up.
(I think you're taking my post a little too seriously)
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Also, Faye maybe wants to see what Bubbles can do with her hips. :-D
Morbid curiousity can be a damned powerful thing. Especially for scholarly types and even more so for topics someone's passionate about. Learning to tell the voice in your head shouting "I want to know" that it's wrong is quite difficult.
Damn near impossible to read Faye's reactions as "just friends".
I can hyperflex my shoulders to point the backs of both elbows forward with the outside of my wrists resting on my lowest pair ribs. Seeing this tends to freak a fair few people out. Being that Bubbles is very humanoid, seeing joint dislocation and whatnot probably mess with Faye in the same way that seeing a similar injury/hyperflexion in a person might. But, Faye also knows that Bubbles is an AI inhabiting a chassis. So I'd wager that Faye's reaction in panel 4 might be a logic conflict between that visceral reaction to seeming injury and her intense interest in advanced robotics.
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After archive binging over the past week, I think Faybles shippers should be very careful what they wish for... there seems to be an exclusion principle governing the relationships of Marten and Faye. If Faye and Bubbles get together, Marten and Claire are destined to break up, just like Marten/Claire broke up Faye/Angus, which broke up Marten/Dora. :psyduck:
I think you may be reading a little too much into it. At least I hope you are. I like Marten with Claire, but I don’t wish spinsterhood on Faye just to ensure that they don’t break up.
(I think you're taking my post a little too seriously)
No, I’m not really. My response was supposed to come off more sarcastic or light-hearted - I’m not even sure which - but I was so tired (still am, really) that I couldn’t get it to sound right.
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Besides, it's clearly now Claire and Clinton who can't both be involved at the same time.
Or maybe it's Clinton and Elliot. Or Roko and Melon. Or it could be Momo and May. Anyway one of those pairs has a relationship exclusion principle, or possibly a totally different pair, or maybe nobody.
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But, Faye also knows that Bubbles is an AI inhabiting a chassis. So I'd wager that Faye's reaction in panel 4 might be a logic conflict between that visceral reaction to seeming injury and her intense interest in advanced robotics.
That she had that visceral reaction implies that her viscera are treating Bubbles's chassis like the body of an organic friend.
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But, Faye also knows that Bubbles is an AI inhabiting a chassis. So I'd wager that Faye's reaction in panel 4 might be a logic conflict between that visceral reaction to seeming injury and her intense interest in advanced robotics.
That she had that visceral reaction implies that her viscera are treating Bubbles's chassis like the body of an organic friend.
Exactly.
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We know she treats Bubbles as an equal and a friend but if she starts emotionally regarding Bubbles as an organic, that's a step along the shipping road.
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I think it's more active vs. passive, or maybe conscious vs. subconscious. I don't think Faye is actively (or consciously, if you will) treating Bubbles as an organic, but rather she is simply not treating Bubbles as any different from herself, because she doesn't think of her as different. Sure, she knows there's a physical distinction, but not the person inside. But that's really how she acted toward a lot of the AIs at the skate park. Even Jeremy, when he was only an assembly arm (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3136), was just one of the guys. And they all respect her for it.
So it's understandable that she would be simultaneously freaked out and fascinated by Bubbles being able to bend in ways that would land a normal person in the hospital.
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A while ago I remember a similar conversation on these forums based on Veronica Reed giving Sam and Momo cookies and then realizing that Momo couldn't eat them.
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That one was profound. Momo simultaneously headed off guilt and and (what would in other people be) defensiveness and made a demand for major effort from the organics.
"If everyone does their best" is totally different from good intentions.
That means independent study of what matters to most of the people in a marginalized group. That means scrutinizing what you publish. For example, even though "normal" can have a neutral meaning, there's a message of exclusion when calling the majority "normal".
That means owning up to mistakes. Someone here, who definitely had good intentions, answered criticism without defensiveness but with "I regret causing offense. You deserve better.".
That means, when someone is angry, listening.
There's more. Momo set the bar high.
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I don't think that Faye's reaction to Bubbles' arm twisting has anything specific to do with her. But rather it's a general reaction to how similar to human form anthro PC chassis like Bubbles, Momo and May's is, and the unexpected timing. It's sort of an offshoot of the uncanny valley effect, where something is in the appearance of a human, but not quite right and therefor off putting. In this case, watching someone twist their arm suddenly in a way that would involve a violent break for most humans.
In truth it doesn't even need to be a robot involved. Look at extremely flexible acrobats and actors who can contort their bodies in ways that the majority of people can't. They make a living moving ways that freak and/or gross people out because our minds tell us 'Humans can't move like that!' human like anthro PCs seem to keep their range of motion within average human variation for similar effect. There is no reason why a the Idoru chassis couldn't come with a neck join that rotates 360 degrees.... But I dare say Momo spinning her head completely around would freak people out when they first saw it. Same as Bubbles appearing to break her arm. Even though it's completely withing normal movement range for her, it isn't for most humans so Faye's first reaction was to freak out, even though intellectually she knew better.
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Actually a friend of mine in high school could do that with her elbow.
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Actually a friend of mine in high school could do that with her elbow.
Hyperflexion of the shoulder or that 190° extension some people can do?
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At a bigger angle than Bubbles did in the comic. Probably 40 degrees? Don't remember exactly.
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For a human to do it requires dislocation of the elbow, as well as the extreme extensibility in the muscles and tendons. I've seen it done too. It's not unheard of, but it's quite uncommon.
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I experience something akin to pain simply reading about it.
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Actually a friend of mine in high school could do that with her elbow.
An ex GF of mine could do it to at the elbows...
My reaction was always a mirror of Faye's ! :)
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For a human to do it requires dislocation of the elbow, as well as the extreme extensibility in the muscles and tendons. I've seen it done too. It's not unheard of, but it's quite uncommon.
Largely due to the elbow being the most secure non-fused joint in the human body.
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That one was profound. Momo simultaneously headed off guilt and and (what would in other people be) defensiveness and made a demand for major effort from the organics.
"If everyone does their best" is totally different from good intentions.
That means independent study of what matters to most of the people in a marginalized group. That means scrutinizing what you publish. For example, even though "normal" can have a neutral meaning, there's a message of exclusion when calling the majority "normal".
That means owning up to mistakes. Someone here, who definitely had good intentions, answered criticism without defensiveness but with "I regret causing offense. You deserve better.".
That means, when someone is angry, listening.
There's more. Momo set the bar high.
Do you have a link, or an approximate nmber range?
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That one was profound. Momo simultaneously headed off guilt and and (what would in other people be) defensiveness and made a demand for major effort from the organics.
"If everyone does their best" is totally different from good intentions.
That means independent study of what matters to most of the people in a marginalized group. That means scrutinizing what you publish. For example, even though "normal" can have a neutral meaning, there's a message of exclusion when calling the majority "normal".
That means owning up to mistakes. Someone here, who definitely had good intentions, answered criticism without defensiveness but with "I regret causing offense. You deserve better.".
That means, when someone is angry, listening.
There's more. Momo set the bar high.
Do you have a link, or an approximate nmber range?
There was the cookie incident at 3162 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3162), and also her internal monologue from 2952 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2952)-2959. I’m sure there’s more.
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I was thinking specifically of the cookie faux pas by Ms. Reed. Momo did not elaborate on "If everyone does their best" but I saw the implications.