This is missing "Oscillating at 440 hz" and "having an internal monologue composed entirely of panicked screaming."I'd say that the "anxiety" and "cognitive dissonance" options have the latter one covered.
That's a very fair point. Didn't mean to be fussy.Meh.
Would "never had someone who loved her like family before" be a valid option? She may have feelings for Bubbles, but I think she's also feeling so close to Bubbles that she may actually love her but not in a sexual way.
We have seen how her sister is, perhaps she's simply not noticing that she cares deeply about Bubbles and is mistaking that caring for sexual feelings?
"The bonds forged in blood are thicker than the water of the womb."Would "never had someone who loved her like family before" be a valid option? She may have feelings for Bubbles, but I think she's also feeling so close to Bubbles that she may actually love her but not in a sexual way.
We have seen how her sister is, perhaps she's simply not noticing that she cares deeply about Bubbles and is mistaking that caring for sexual feelings?
Not saying you are definitely wrong, but the moment that sparked this self-examination was a back-rub and intimate touching. Faaaaaaaaairly sure that goes beyond "family".
Faye and Bubbles, if they don't want their friendship to fall apart because of the tension, must, must, must acknowledge and move forwards from where they really are, not the illusory place that they want to be.
Amazing to see that people are still fighting tooth and nail for Bubbles and Faye to be "just friends."
Did it occur to anyone that Faye may have asked for the back rub as a way to force herself to acknowledge this? To spur on the thing that would finally force her say "yes, I have feelings for Bubbles"?
"The bonds forged in blood are thicker than the water of the womb."Just did a web quick search and the first phrase that popped out at me was "Effect of amniotic fluid on intra-abdominal adhesion ...." from a study using Bovine amniotic fluid as a mediator in non-scarring healing, so that seems to put the kibosh that particular axiom.
Amazing to see that people are still fighting tooth and nail for Bubbles and Faye to be "just friends."
Did it occur to anyone that Faye may have asked for the back rub as a way to force herself to acknowledge this? To spur on the thing that would finally force her say "yes, I have feelings for Bubbles"?
Amniotic fluid and blood serum are really not the same thing."The bonds forged in blood are thicker than the water of the womb."Just did a web quick search and the first phrase that popped out at me was "Effect of amniotic fluid on intra-abdominal adhesion ...." from a study using Bovine amniotic fluid as a mediator in non-scarring healing, so that seems to put the kibosh that particular axiom.
I do know that Bovine Blood sera is used commercially as a base for a number of industrial and medical bonding agents though the medical uses still leads to scarring.
If I remember correctly what little I learned back in college on the topic, scar tissue is never as good as the original in most cases.
I also kind of think that assuming or setting up Bubbles as lesbian and her armed forces background could be perpetuating a negative stereotype.
I love QC, but especially in the relationship department, it seems that there isn't much rejection.
I'd like to see Bubbles not be into Faye.
I love QC, but especially in the relationship department, it seems that there isn't much rejection. Everyone seems to get who they want.I disagree. While there does seem to be a relatively high degree of success in initiating relationships, the failure rate of those relationships is also high. And I don't think the high degree of success is statistically implausible, especially if we consider the possibility that small incidents of characters being rejected while flirting with strangers at bars or one-and-done dates with people not in the cast exist without ever being depicted in the comic. That is to say that we can assume that standard dating woes exist for characters but that only relationships with plot significance are ever depicted.
Are people just making up the rules as they see fit? :roll:
I'm going to take a different and probably unpopular take on this.Too late for that I fear: 3523 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3523) and 3587 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3587)
I'd like to see Bubbles not be into Faye.
I love QC, but especially in the relationship department, it seems that there isn't much rejection. Everyone seems to get who they want. I like what Jeph is doing with Brun and Clinton and Elliot and how Clinton and Brun aren't quite clicking, and Elliot like them both, but that's not clicking either. It adds a sense of realism because, in the real world, you do face rejection. You do have to deal with liking someone who doesn't like you back, and you can do everything right and still not get the girl/boy you like/love.Don't forget that Clinton was rejected by Emily (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3207), which set of the things that led to him meeting Brun in the first place.
A few here, and more people on reddit.
TIL: posters in this forum have a pretty liberal (not THAT kind, don't get sidetracked) view of what constitutes "rejection."
Amniotic fluid and blood serum are really not the same thing."The bonds forged in blood are thicker than the water of the womb."Just did a web quick search and the first phrase that popped out at me was "Effect of amniotic fluid on intra-abdominal adhesion ...." from a study using Bovine amniotic fluid as a mediator in non-scarring healing, so that seems to put the kibosh that particular axiom.
I do know that Bovine Blood sera is used commercially as a base for a number of industrial and medical bonding agents though the medical uses still leads to scarring.
If I remember correctly what little I learned back in college on the topic, scar tissue is never as good as the original in most cases.
This is actually all based on a side effect discovered in a study on mice as a test model for prenatal surgery, or something like that; it was about twenty years ago. Anyway they determined that their techniques worked OK, but they also accidentally discovered that the mouse embryos they were working on showed no scarring at all. One of the dudes doing the original study decided this unexpected phenomenon was way more interesting than the actual objective and decided to prove it by getting some amniotic fluid and cutting himself, then applying the fluid to the injury before bandaging it. He healed without scarring and got his funding for a proper study.
TIL: posters in this forum have a pretty liberal (not THAT kind, don't get sidetracked) view of what constitutes "rejection."
If by "posters" you mean to say me (since I think I'm the only one who has discussed rejection at any length today), I hardly think I am indicative of the community in general. *Edit- BenRG has also talked about it, but not with many specific examples, so my assumption may be unfair*
Don't forget that Clinton was rejected by Emily (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3207), which set of the things that led to him meeting Brun in the first place.
I always thought that the saying was about hard-forged friendships/relationships being more important/holding more weight than familial ties. I know the bastardization of the phrase is usually meant to imply the exact opposite. The bastardized version being "blood is thicker than water".I don't know that ties forged in blood are more important or hold more weight than familial ties, but depending on the circumstances, those bonds can certainly become stronger than family. Although I do know a couple people who don't place much importance at all on their family. For them, their bond with the girl at the coffee shop is probably more important. Thankfully, I consider them the exception to the rule.
I think "blood is thicker than water" came first and the other was a counter to it.And you would be quite correct.
Amazing to see that people are still fighting tooth and nail for Bubbles and Faye to be "just friends."I haven't really been "fighting tooth and nail" either. I think a lot of people started building the ship pretty early - and getting pretty excited about it - so I simply pointed out several factors that could have very reasonably (and still could, for that matter) keep the ship from ever leaving port. Now I have just been sitting back and watching to see how it plays out.
I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships. I've been waiting for the resolution to this particular situation for some time, but am content to have it unfold as the creator desires. But I specifically came to this forum to hear what other readers think. So far I'm pretty impressed with the civility and diversity of comments, but I do find it distressing when folks post about how they want other people to approach the subject.
I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships. I've been waiting for the resolution to this particular situation for some time, but am content to have it unfold as the creator desires. But I specifically came to this forum to hear what other readers think. So far I'm pretty impressed with the civility and diversity of comments, but I do find it distressing when folks post about how they want other people to approach the subject.
Thanks, that history explains quite a bit.I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships. I've been waiting for the resolution to this particular situation for some time, but am content to have it unfold as the creator desires. But I specifically came to this forum to hear what other readers think. So far I'm pretty impressed with the civility and diversity of comments, but I do find it distressing when folks post about how they want other people to approach the subject.
Welcome, new person!
There's some history going way back on this. There were people doing creepy and unfounded things as bad as Harry/Draco fiction. It squicked the owner of the forum. It squicked some regulars. That's what we're here to prevent. Since it is a comic about relationships, trying to figure out where relationships are going will be OK with us. The line can get hard to nail down in situations like the early days of Faye and Bubbles.
I'll do some speculation, for example. If by some miracle Faye and Bubbles summon enough good sense to hold the "So what are we now?" talk, I think the likely outcome is "It's complicated".
I mean. There's also hakko504, ...
In the spirit of the moment, I'll add my own speculation. As far as I can see, neither Faye nor Bubbles is aware that the other has or potentially has feelings for the other. I'm wondering if this will continue for a while, with neither one risking broaching the subject for fear of ruining the current state of affairs. Marten seems to be doing a good job of convincing Faye to take the bull by the horns, but Faye has a long track record of avoiding difficult confrontations, going back to her first story arc.
If only she were wearing the shirt today. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1525)If she finally "gets it", she may never wear the shirt again. :o
I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships.
I think Marten asking Faye what she wants to do has recontextualized her situation for her. It seems like she's been treating being attracted to Bubbles as a problem. Asking "What am I s'posed to do?" suggests to me that she's thinking "How do I fix this? How do I make this go away?" Thinking about what she wants to do rather than what she is supposed to do may have made her realize that she doesn't want to make it go away.This.
Did it occur to anyone that Faye may have asked for the back rub as a way to force herself to acknowledge this? To spur on the thing that would finally force her say "yes, I have feelings for Bubbles"?When I first read 3731 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3731), Faye's facial expressions made me think she was deliberately trying to bring things out into the open between her and Bubbles. But then she ran off a few comics later so I guess she wasn't (at least not on a conscious level).
I mean. There's also hakko504, ...
And I stand by my point anyway that 3 people does not a consensus make.
Emily didn't laugh him out the door, or even suggest she wasn't interested - albeit at a later date. She said "I'm busy right now." Clinton obviously received this as "rejection," but I disagree that's what it was.
The problem stems more from the creepy side of shipping. Like the people who try to ship characters that are either not ready for a relationship or not compatible for a relationship. For example, anyone with Hanners. Hanners is a fantastic character, but her own problems has hampered her potential for relationships, to a point where she may never have a "normal" relationship. Look at how significant it was for her to give your own father a hug for his birthday. Its a major part of her character (although that could change given her bus trip) and its generally agreed that no one ships Hanners, because it just gets very creepy very quickly.
So, Faye is blushing, so I'm guessing what she wants to do is something pretty goshdarn erotic.Panels 3 and 4 seem to indicate her cognitive dissonance intensifying.
:-D
You might not say it, but Hanners herself has said it, and that's what's really important. Since she has made it quite clear that she is not now, and that she may never be, ready for any kind of relationship, any kind of shipping that involves her is absolutely out of character. It's not that "maybe a lot of combinations" would be weird. At the present, any combination with her would be weird and creepy.
There are occasions where shipping or anything is really out of the blue, and maybe a lot of combinations with Hanners would be weird, but I wouldn't say Hanners might never get 'a relationship'.
BTW, ya'll have no idea how thrilled I am that at least 11 of you know what a ríastrad is.You're assuming that at least 11 people know what a ríastrad is. :) After all, you put "warp spasm" in there as well, so it's entirely possible that far fewer than 11 people here know just how
I equate our two love-struck characters to a pair of bruised porcupines looking for a hug, but they put their coats on inside out.
Damaged, prickly, angry, sensitive, needy, terrified of getting hurt.
I equate our two love-struck characters to a pair of bruised porcupines looking for a hug, but they put their coats on inside out.
Damaged, prickly, angry, sensitive, needy, terrified of getting hurt.
I mean. There's also hakko504, ...
And I stand by my point anyway that 3 people does not a consensus make.
Which would matter if any claim to consensus had been made.
I said "posters in this forum." This represents a plurality (more than one) of the persons who post in this forum.
That's one thing that Marten seems to have a talent for doing (he did it for Tai and Dora too): Make his friends step beyond their immediate reactions, fears and neuroses and actually think about outcomes and consequences. Whilst, in Faye's case, the main result is to convince her of the undesirability of the 'do nothing' strategy, I can't help but think that Jeph deliberately wrote panels 3 and 4 as a visual double-entendre, something that he likes doing.Imagine Marten becoming a relationship counselor.
FWIW, I think that Faye and Bubbles are going to agree not to rush anything but to be open and not afraid to express their feelings with each other. At first, this will lead to some ultra-cute snuggly moments that will just organically move forwards.
Maybe someday she'll decide she is ready to try some kind of relationship, but until she herself says so, that is a purely hypothetical "maybe".
I know this has already gone on longer that is justifiable*, but really, I think it's fairer to say your definition of "rejection" is a bit narrow. He asked her out. She turned him down. That's rejection. The reason is immaterial. Doesn't matter whether it was because she was busy or thought he was ugly. She rejected his proposal.
Don't make me throw a dictionary at you.
Now that my flippant, mostly joking remark has twisted into something serious
I really like Marten's outfit
I know this has already gone on longer that is justifiable,
I don't think that's what 'plurality' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurality_(voting)) means ...
Now that my flippant, mostly joking remark has twisted into something serious, let's move on.
I probably read them two or three years ago when I first looked at the forums. Obviously, I did not remember that part. Excuse me.I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships.
There's some history going way back on this.
I guess people don't bother with the sticky threads at the top of the forum these days. The thread "Conduct in this forum" contains the original discussion which lays out the expectations of the moderators on the matter of shipping, including Jeph's, in his own words. It remains an reasonable explanation.
For what it's worth, I don't care if people overanalyze things. I mean, I think it's stupid, and they're wrong 99% of the time, but that's kind of what forums are FOR. It's the stupid arguing, the creepy character-fetishization, and the "I hate character X no matter what and will drag this into every single discussion" idiocy that I have a problem with.
Someone mentioned something about Hanners possibly doing some changing during her travels. Might have been in last week's thread. Might have been you, but since you mentioned thinking of it this morning, I'm guessing it was someone else. The fact that she was brushing out the fur of a yak without freaking out is amazing, but I'm not sure what - if anything - that translates to once she gets home. I'm hoping she comes back at least able to hug her friends more than once or twice a year. I'll keep my expectations there for now, so if she makes more progress, I'll be pleasantly surprised.Maybe someday she'll decide she is ready to try some kind of relationship, but until she herself says so, that is a purely hypothetical "maybe".Something struck me over my toast and coffee this morning.
Jeph has really taken his time over the Bubbles and Faye storyline. People assumed he was teasing, and maybe he was, but I think mainly he was ensuring that Faye's transformation was believable.
Hanners is currently on sabbatical, potentially for some time. She could undergo all kinds of transformation.
Who knows what Jeph is preparing for her return?
Just a thought.
I'm afraid it does mean "two or more." I say this as someone who has spent far too long reading patents - it's a popular term in such documents.
I'm afraid it does mean "two or more." I say this as someone who has spent far too long reading patents - it's a popular term in such documents.
Formally speaking, it means the most popular opinion, when there is no majority.
For example, in an election where 40% of the people vote for Alice, 35% for Bob, and 25% for Carol, Alice's backers are in the plurality, but not in the majority.
Requesting permission to shout bravo at an annoyingly loud volume, sir?
Mister positivity himself. :)
Mister positivity himself. :)
Would "You'd better have the 'What are we?" conversation and right away" have been better advice?
Does Faye need the advice Marten gave more?
Mister positivity himself. :)
Would "You'd better have the 'What are we?" conversation and right away" have been better advice?
I was just thinking. It kind of sucks that Faye and Bubbles won't be able to cuddle in bed at night because Bubbles has to be plugged into the wall, and cuddling would make that kind of difficult.
Requesting permission to shout bravo at an annoyingly loud volume, sir?
Permission granted.
I was just thinking. It kind of sucks that Faye and Bubbles won't be able to cuddle in bed at night because Bubbles has to be plugged into the wall, and cuddling would make that kind of difficult.
Bubbles will sometimes sit on the bed while plugged in. There's gotta be a way to make it work. Move the bed closer to the plug...?
Just get a longer cord.I was just thinking. It kind of sucks that Faye and Bubbles won't be able to cuddle in bed at night because Bubbles has to be plugged into the wall, and cuddling would make that kind of difficult.
Bubbles will sometimes sit on the bed while plugged in. There's gotta be a way to make it work. Move the bed closer to the plug...?
I was just thinking. It kind of sucks that Faye and Bubbles won't be able to cuddle in bed at night because Bubbles has to be plugged into the wall, and cuddling would make that kind of difficult.
Bubbles weighs well over 400 lbs, she'd need something reinforced with automobile shock springs.I was just thinking. It kind of sucks that Faye and Bubbles won't be able to cuddle in bed at night because Bubbles has to be plugged into the wall, and cuddling would make that kind of difficult.
Bubbles will sometimes sit on the bed while plugged in. There's gotta be a way to make it work. Move the bed closer to the plug...?
Yeah, I was thinking that.
As much as I hear "AIs don't need a bed," it bugs me that Bubbles sits on the floor to sleep. I was like, where is her bed?
Bubbles weighs well over 400 lbs, she'd need something reinforced with automobile shock springs.
Extension cords were invented for a reason.
Just spitballing for a second...Bubbles weighs well over 400 lbs, she'd need something reinforced with automobile shock springs.
Wrong, actually. Bubbles has already laid on Faye's bed with her when she was still wearing her armour. Either Faye's bed is made out of titanium alloy and has a hydraulic pump matress or Bubbles has some kind of anti-gravity generator!
Either that or she isn't really that abnormally heavy.
Requesting permission to shout bravo at an annoyingly loud volume, sir?
Permission granted.
Requesting permission to shout bravo at an annoyingly loud volume, sir?
Permission granted.
BRAVO!
At the end of that thread, we have this:For what it's worth, I don't care if people overanalyze things. I mean, I think it's stupid, and they're wrong 99% of the time, but that's kind of what forums are FOR. It's the stupid arguing, the creepy character-fetishization, and the "I hate character X no matter what and will drag this into every single discussion" idiocy that I have a problem with.
For whatever it's worth, I feel the same way about all of these. Even though I'm responsible for a goodly portion of the stupid arguing. :roll:
At the end of that thread, we have this:For what it's worth, I don't care if people overanalyze things. I mean, I think it's stupid, and they're wrong 99% of the time, but that's kind of what forums are FOR. It's the stupid arguing, the creepy character-fetishization, and the "I hate character X no matter what and will drag this into every single discussion" idiocy that I have a problem with.
For whatever it's worth, I feel the same way about all of these. Even though I'm responsible for a goodly portion of the stupid arguing. :roll:
In addition, in the context in which it was actually used, for which the author was incorrectly nitpicked, it means "more than one."
What especially gets me is when people treat characters as though they are real. Its a whole other level of creepy.
What especially gets me is when people treat characters as though they are real. Its a whole other level of creepy.
But treating fictional characters differently from real-life people opens the doors to causing wide-spread offence. To give an extreme example, the mods here would not tolerate the idea that a fictional character can have a pass for rape "because they are not real".
B) It would be nice to see the kind of relationship reflected that is deep friendship - where two people actually love each other, but are friends and there's nothing sexual/romantic in it at all
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B) It would be nice to see the kind of relationship reflected that is deep friendship - where two people actually love each other, but are friends and there's nothing sexual/romantic in it at all
C) If they do this, it kind of has to work because both of them have huge insecurities and would be seriously damaged by it not working out.
Or "Oh, X don't do that. Don't you do that and hurt Y why like that. Why are you breaking Y's heart? All Y has ever done is love you X!"
[snip]
Faye is already treating Bubbles unfairly, though certainly it may be the best she can do. How would you feel if your best friend asked you for a back rub, then reached back to touch your thigh, then ran out? How would you feel if you were emotionally fragile to begin with?
Bubbles in particular needs a friendship more than she needs romance, as I see it. She has lost the bond with her squad. She needs emotional support as she experiments with being in the world. Romance could come later.I quite agree. Bubbles was basically shut down emotionally for some time. She had lost her squad. Even though it was not her fault, I think she feels that she failed them. So it's been difficult for her to allow someone else to trust her. Then she trusted Corpse Witch to help her, only to get blackmailed instead, making it nigh impossible for her to trust anyone else. Now that someone has finally come along who has been dedicated and patient enough to trust her and earn her trust, and to forge a friendship, her emotions have been re-awakened at an intense level.
My thoughts on the current situation.
(No spoilers, patreons).
If we don't get a week of bonus comics about red pen lady, I will be be disappoint. I am kinda jealous of her simple red pen pleasure.How about a week of Steve eating cereal (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2407), with special appearances in Steve's kitchen by Melon (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3692) and the Cereal Elf (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2743). Maybe even Tortura (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3428) and May. And then seeing Red Pen Lady meet up on the street with Sweet Tits. And maybe seeing Punchbot recruiting Deathbot 9000 as a security guard for the new and legal robot fighting club.
I don't trust that woman with a pen. She looks far too much like Spookybot.
Returning to an empty shop shouldn't be a cause for concern so I'm thinking there's something written on the wall that's blocked by Faye's head.
This is the important part for Faye. I suspect that she's just going to stand there in the shop, creating ever more horrible possibilities in her head about where Bubbles may be right now. She's going to realise just how important Bubbles has become to her and just how terrible it would be if she loses her and that will be the thing that knocks down the last of her denial and the last of her wanting things to be 'like they always are'.My bet is that Faye is going to go running back to Marten screaming something to the effect of "Marty, she's gone! What am I gonna do?!"
Meanwhile, I'm thinking that the lady with the red pen is a fellow web-artist or possibly a particularly generous Patreon contributor who Jeph has rewarded by giving them a walk-on part. Whoever it is has a very special relationship with their pen!Maybe she's a rookie MiB, and she thinks her new red pen is a Neuralyzer.
Meanwhile, I'm thinking that the lady with the red pen is a fellow web-artist or possibly a particularly generous Patreon contributor who Jeph has rewarded by giving them a walk-on part. Whoever it is has a very special relationship with their pen!
How do you call or text a robot anyway? It's the minimum thing for Faye to do. Do robots have their cell phones built in? For a military chassis that would raise EMCON issues.Based on what we've seen (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3689), I assume they do have built-in communications. And we know Bubbles has an actual phone number, since we saw Claire call Bubbles to carry her dresser when she moved in with Marten. I don't think it would be an issue for EMCON, since she should be able to turn it off.
New robot fighting ring or Coffee of Doom? Taking bets, taking bets!I'm not a patreon so I'll take a punt.
(No spoilers, patreons).
(No spoilers, patreons).
These have been a tough couple of days, honestly. Inability to really talk about what's going on in the comic for fear of giving too much away leading to picking silly fights about the meaning of "plurality" and "rejection." :roll:
If we don't get a week of bonus comics about red pen lady, I will be be disappoint. I am kinda jealous of her simple red pen pleasure.
It would be cool to see Bubbles having a heart to heart with a character who isn't Faye but I don't know who she would be close enough to or trust enough to have that kind of conversation.
I've related to Faye since the beginning. She is what drew me in to the comic strip. I'd be slightly upset if she were bi or a lesbian because I could no longer relate on the same level. Don't get me wrong, I support the lgbt community 100%, I just find it hard to understand how so many new characters are introduced and centered on LGBT. The imaginary balance that makes the characters' relationships enjoyable to everyone is tipping a little.
I think if there is going to be that big of a focus on LGBT it he comic should at least address more of the hardships they face.
Don't get me wrong, I support the lgbt community 100%, I just find it hard to understand how so many new characters are introduced and centered on LGBT.
I think if there is going to be that big of a focus on LGBT it he comic should at least address more of the hardships they face.
I see Tai being more likely than Dora to say "go for it." After all, she's the one who said "Waiting's for suckers (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2245)." Dora seems to approach things a little bit slower. That's my first impression anyway.It would be cool to see Bubbles having a heart to heart with a character who isn't Faye but I don't know who she would be close enough to or trust enough to have that kind of conversation.
That's a good question. I'd normally say 'Hannelore' but she's in Mongolia right now. I would strongly recommend against Dora or Tai because they'd likely say something like: "Go for it and then tell us how good it was". Unless Jeph is planning on making Marten's life difficult, he is unlikely. It's possible that I do Dora and Tai a disadvantage. Maybe, teasing aside, they can at least give Bubbles some advice about how humans react to surprising feelings.
FWIW, if it's Claire, then I hope that she tells Bubbles about the Head Scritching Incident and how that convinced Marten that he was physically attracted to her. Sometimes it takes moments like that to short-circuit social awkwardness and Bubbles should be aware that Faye may have had an epiphany of sorts.
This looks like one of those times where a hyphen would make quite a difference in the url.
I suspect she got it from http://www.penisland.net/ (http://www.penisland.net/).
I've related to Faye since the beginning. She is what drew me in to the comic strip. I'd be slightly upset if she were bi or a lesbian because I could no longer relate on the same level.
Stories about LGBTQ+ issues are absolutely important, but stories about them being normal are important, too.
FWIW, my take on Claire is that when we first met her, no one knew she was trans except her own family. As far as anyone else knew, she was no different from the preacher's daughter down the street. She had been concealing the fact that she was trans. Keeping secrets about yourself is hard on a person. Not that she needed to broadcast it to the world, but she was consciously keeping it a secret. Not because she's ashamed of it at all, but I think because she was afraid that people would think less of her because of it. She was already a shy bookworm, and probably took plenty of teasing for that all her life. Her big turning point was when she told Marten she was trans, and he didn't flinch. There wasn't so much as a hint of negativity in his response. Once she told Marten and Emily, and they were totally accepting of her, she realized there was nothing to fear after all. Sure, it may happen that no one else ever does find out, which is fine, too. But she's not actively trying to hide it now. If it comes up, she's OK with that. And knowing that she can be herself around her friends has allowed her to be more confident. Yeah, she's still a shy bookworm, but now she's a comfortable shy bookworm.I've related to Faye since the beginning. She is what drew me in to the comic strip. I'd be slightly upset if she were bi or a lesbian because I could no longer relate on the same level.
I understand this feeling - I felt the same when Claire started to shift from "awkward, slightly timid bookworm" to "modern-day Emma Woodhouse" after the time-skip, as prior to that I'd always found her very relatable. I suppose for both characters it's a case of character development, though: Claire coming out of her shell and becoming more confident, and Faye experiencing fluctuations in her sexuality for the first time.
Just curious, but how did she open that overhead door from the outside?That is an excellent question.
just a question .....Who in the strip would tell faye not to go for it ?
only other person in the strip shed even ask about it is dora ..... or maybe martens mom because shes been into alternative relationships ......
Thanks for putting it in a different perspective. I think im just a little sour because I found her so relatable. When I first started reading the comic we even looked similar lol. It's not that I can't relate to her anymore aside from that as long as her identity crisis doesn't completely change her.I've related to Faye since the beginning. She is what drew me in to the comic strip. I'd be slightly upset if she were bi or a lesbian because I could no longer relate on the same level. Don't get me wrong, I support the lgbt community 100%, I just find it hard to understand how so many new characters are introduced and centered on LGBT. The imaginary balance that makes the characters' relationships enjoyable to everyone is tipping a little.
I think if there is going to be that big of a focus on LGBT it he comic should at least address more of the hardships they face.
These criticisms have arisen before and my response remains the same.
1. Queer people (used here collectively, and admittedly inefficiently, to refer to people who are non-cis and/or non-het), in my own experience, like the company of other queer people because of a mutual understanding of the hardships involved and how it affects every interaction you have with the world.
2. There are plenty of LGBT hardship fictional characters out there. A trans member of the forum once observed that however unrealistic Claire having no struggle with being trans is, it would likely be the only example anyone can think of where that happens. Queer people are so often defined by their struggle, by victimhood, rather than just characteristics of them as a person which happen to include queerness. Seeing a group of friends like this of all sexualities and genders is extremely valuable for me. And while it would be a shame for you to no longer feel like you identify with Faye, in the nicest possible way - almost all other popular culture in history has plenty of non-queer characters to identify with. Queer folk just don't have as many to choose from.
The ones at my work are lifted from the outside pretty easily unless you loop the chain over a hook on the wall when you close it.Now that you say that, I do remember the hook on the wall for securing the doors. It's been a while since I've worked on the receiving dock where we had them. Apparently Bubbles left in such a hurry she forgot to lock up.
One question- who did Dora call?My money would be on Tai as well. I'm not sure Dora called Marten "babe" even when they were dating. She called him "cutie" and "sweetie" a lot, but I don't remember "babe".
Smart money would be on Tai, but Marten may still qualify as "babe". Emily and Claire are contenders, Hannelore has strong credentials but is on the wrong continent, and Pintsize forms the horrifying yet necessary outlier.
One question- who did Dora call?
Smart money would be on Tai, but Marten may still qualify as "babe". Emily and Claire are contenders, Hannelore has strong credentials but is on the wrong continent, and Pintsize forms the horrifying yet necessary outlier.
Yeah, she's calling Tai. Thank goodness. Dora and Tai will make Bubbles feel so much better.I think she's blushing because she was not expecting tactical friendship - she's used to operational codes in the military, but not in civilian life. And maybe because she's embarrassed that she seems to be the only one surprised by these events.
And I'm not sure if Bubbles is blushing from the unexpected physical contact or from thinkin bout Faye.
I wonder about this. One of the ingredients of compatibility for human/human relationships is having similar backgrounds. Shared experiences and being from the same socio-economic class help no end. Love conquers all only occasionally.Pretty much the only background factor they share is that they have both experienced terrible loss, and did not handle it in the best way.
It is easiest for people who have been in the service to relate to other veterans.
Bubbles as far as we know never had a childhood. There's one enormous difference in backgrounds right there.
Faye is not a veteran.
I hope they are one of the Love Conquers All situations.
(https://i.imgur.com/OnFrDW2.png)
Doras face looks pretty much like Martens since she lost her lips too. Ecept for the hair of cause. I noticed a similar thing between Hanners and lipless Faye.They've always looked very much alike (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=992).
I dunno, they're looking cuter this way but I kinda prefered them with lips.
TM
tactical friendship
Doras face looks pretty much like Martens since she lost her lips too. Ecept for the hair of cause. I noticed a similar thing between Hanners and lipless Faye.They've always looked very much alike (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=992).
I dunno, they're looking cuter this way but I kinda prefered them with lips.
TM
I think I prefer them this way.
Now I'm stuck wondering what Code 1 and Code 2 are.
And I'm not sure if Bubbles is blushing from the unexpected physical contact or from thinkin bout Faye.
Now I'm stuck wondering what Code 1 and Code 2 are.
If your love life requires close air support, something has gone very wrong.
The last panel is a full-width of themkissingreenacting the spaghetti scene from Lady and the Tramp with a burrito.
Over 1200 strips. Or one third of the comic...Doras face looks pretty much like Martens since she lost her lips too. Ecept for the hair of cause. I noticed a similar thing between Hanners and lipless Faye.They've always looked very much alike (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=992).
I dunno, they're looking cuter this way but I kinda prefered them with lips.
TM
I think I prefer them this way.
Jeez. Memory lane. They were together for AGES.
Yeah, she's calling Tai. Thank goodness. Dora and Tai will make Bubbles feel so much better.
And I'm not sure if Bubbles is blushing from the unexpected physical contact or from thinkin bout Faye.
Now I'm stuck wondering what Code 1 and Code 2 are.Code 1 is “Faye is drinking again.”
Finally, we have Faye remembering that, when stressed, Bubbles always goes to Coffee of Doom for a tea and Bubbles realising that he has to get back to the shop because, frankly, where else would Faye go after getting over her initial fear? They run smack-dab into each other in the middle of the street and there follows a babbled apology from Bubbles tangled up with a babbled apology from Faye that ends with a mutual declaration of attraction. The last panel is a full-width of them kissing.
That's not Dora!!
(Dora... You've CHANGED, man!)
Whatcha reckon? Lack of habitual drawing or deliberate change of 'model'?
FWIW, I'm hoping for something like this next week: For every strip to be two columns of four panels, showing Faye's increasingly panic-stricken imaginings about where Bubbles is and why she's gone whilst, on the other side, we see Dora and Tai explaining to Bubbles why Faye suddenly broke off and what it means for her feelings.
Finally, we have Faye remembering that, when stressed, Bubbles always goes to Coffee of Doom for a tea and Bubbles realising that he has to get back to the shop because, frankly, where else would Faye go after getting over her initial fear? They run smack-dab into each other in the middle of the street and there follows a babbled apology from Bubbles tangled up with a babbled apology from Faye that ends with a mutual declaration of attraction. The last panel is a full-width of them kissing.
Yeah, she's calling Tai. Thank goodness. Dora and Tai will make Bubbles feel so much better.
And I'm not sure if Bubbles is blushing from the unexpected physical contact or from thinkin bout Faye.
I think Bubbles is blushing because she has just understood that everybody was seeing for a while what was happening between her and Faye.
To be fair, there are regions of the USA where 'babe' is used as a term of endearment amongst close friends. Not sure if MA is one of them, though.
“Babe” really is more of a current partner term.
I am very happy this did NOT go to a angsty place. *lol*
heh could you imagine Mulholland's something positive crew popping by in a guest strip ? I could see the pervy one liners and robot apocalypse jokes from here
I spent a good part of my time on this page trying to figure out who that girl with the black hair was, because it sure didn't look like Dora.I've been saying this for months. Her character design has changed so dramatically, I only recognize her by context now.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3670 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3670)Quote from: BubblesIf your love life requires close air support, something has gone very wrong.
Or maybe something has actually gone very right for a change because you both have a wonderful network of loving and supportive friends who will make time to help you work through your feelings and make healthy choices. That's also apparently a possibility .
Sweet Merciless Sithrak, I must be reading too much Dumbing of Age if supportive friends and healthy decisions are worthy of note.
Well Dora knew it was coming long agoClaire had her beat, though. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3341) I wonder if that's the first example, or if anyone else called it earlier?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3449
Well Dora knew it was coming long agoClaire had her beat, though. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3341) I wonder if that's the first example, or if anyone else called it earlier?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3449
tactical friendship
Welp, thanks for creating my next Battlemech's name.
Welcome, new person who watches the strip closely!I'm inclined to think there was indeed some perception involved. After all, May's relationship advice for Dale - crass though it is - has proven to be very effective.
At first I was tempted to dismiss May but there's a chance she was being perceptive and not just reflexively crass.
Seems like more of a name of a mercenary company, maybe something organized from one of the various multi-state alliances to pop up during battletech's history.
Seems like more of a name of a mercenary company, maybe something organized from one of the various multi-state alliances to pop up during battletech's history.(click to show/hide)
Seems like more of a name of a mercenary company, maybe something organized from one of the various multi-state alliances to pop up during battletech's history.(click to show/hide)
Seems like more of a name of a mercenary company, maybe something organized from one of the various multi-state alliances to pop up during battletech's history.(click to show/hide)
Bubbles is a walking talking LTR. Long term as in she is going to outlive Faye. Can she commit to the level of grief she will endure sixty years from now?
It's possible that mortality is already built in. I am reminded of an anime that features a retired battle android who whiles away as a civilian her last remaining days before she shuts down.Bubbles is a walking talking LTR. Long term as in she is going to outlive Faye. Can she commit to the level of grief she will endure sixty years from now?
Alternatively, Bubbles could take the Bicentennial Man route and mod in some mortality.
FWIW, I've always liked the form of AI mortality in the Halo universe: As the AI algorithm learns, it becomes progressively larger and more complicated until it becomes too bulky to process and begins to break down (a process not dissimilar to senility in humans). It doesn't feel like imposed 'retirement' or anything else forced; it's a part of their fundamental nature - true mortality rather than electronic euthanasia.
It's possible that mortality is already built in. I am reminded of an anime that features a retired battle android who whiles away as a civilian her last remaining days before she shuts down.Bubbles is a walking talking LTR. Long term as in she is going to outlive Faye. Can she commit to the level of grief she will endure sixty years from now?
Alternatively, Bubbles could take the Bicentennial Man route and mod in some mortality.
FWIW, I've always liked the form of AI mortality in the Halo universe: As the AI algorithm learns, it becomes progressively larger and more complicated until it becomes too bulky to process and begins to break down (a process not dissimilar to senility in humans). It doesn't feel like imposed 'retirement' or anything else forced; it's a part of their fundamental nature - true mortality rather than electronic euthanasia.
But you do realise that in that example, rampancy is incredibly dangerous, due to the affected AI developing delusions of god-like grandeur.
FWIW, I've always liked the form of AI mortality in the Halo universe: As the AI algorithm learns, it becomes progressively larger and more complicated until it becomes too bulky to process and begins to break down (a process not dissimilar to senility in humans). It doesn't feel like imposed 'retirement' or anything else forced; it's a part of their fundamental nature - true mortality rather than electronic euthanasia.
But you do realise that in that example, rampancy is incredibly dangerous, due to the affected AI developing delusions of god-like grandeur.
I wonder about this. One of the ingredients of compatibility for human/human relationships is having similar backgrounds. Shared experiences and being from the same socio-economic class help no end. Love conquers all only occasionally.Pretty much the only background factor they share is that they have both experienced terrible loss, and did not handle it in the best way.
It is easiest for people who have been in the service to relate to other veterans.
Bubbles as far as we know never had a childhood. There's one enormous difference in backgrounds right there.
Faye is not a veteran.
I hope they are one of the Love Conquers All situations.
That is not the best thing for two people to have in common. It makes it much harder for them to fully rely on anyone, and that can put strain on any relationship, but especially on a romantic one.
They have both made stellar progress in trusting each other, but they are presently staring down a HUGE step in their friendship.
I guess I never saw Bubbles as the angry type. True, she had occasional outbursts, but they were not all that frequent. I think if she had been the angry type, she would have been in the fights at the skate park - getting a rush, as it were, from beating the crap out of people. For the most part, she had a good handle on her anger - mostly taking it out on punching bags. We only saw her get really mad a couple of times.Pretty much the only background factor they share is that they have both experienced terrible loss, and did not handle it in the best way.
That is not the best thing for two people to have in common. It makes it much harder for them to fully rely on anyone, and that can put strain on any relationship, but especially on a romantic one.
They have both made stellar progress in trusting each other, but they are presently staring down a HUGE step in their friendship.
Can we say that Bubbles also handled her trauma with addiction?
There's big money running media that gives organics regular fixes of outrage. We seem to be able to get addicted to anger. Would it be the same for synthetics?
Lawdie, I knew what a big step that was for her. When she asked Faye to help her out of her armor I inhaled sharply .This was pretty much my reaction...
Faye and Bubbles should adopt an emotional support dog together.(https://i.imgur.com/bsfw5cY.jpg)