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Title: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 May 2018, 07:00
Ja, I got nothin'.

At least nothing related to the current arc.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 13 May 2018, 07:14
I would argue that we are already getting 'cartoony humans'.

That said, an anthro cast or a cat-person cast appeals to me for some reason.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 May 2018, 07:47
Hopefully Faye gets called & rushes over to Coffee of Doom to reassure Bubbles.  :-D


If there WAS a animated, all animal based QC series, I imagine it'd be like Aggretsuko. ;)

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 13 May 2018, 07:56
I like cats (as evident from my avatar) but an assortment of animals would be cute too.

I reckon Claire would be a fox due to being red-haired and fluffy with a pointy nose; Marten would be a pine marten for obvious reasons; Elliott would be something like an elephant or a panda to go with his "gentle giant" persona; Cosette would be a penguin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcx6YyXvvRI); Tai would be a marmot as she's small and good at rock-climbing; and as Marigold is already known as Mar-Bear she'd be a bear.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 May 2018, 14:13
Cute monsters! Of course they have to be cute slimy tentaclly Cthulhoid sea monsters! Muppety eldritch horrors! Plush demonspawn!

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 13 May 2018, 15:05
Cute monsters! Of course they have to be cute slimy tentaclly Cthulhoid sea monsters! Muppety eldritch horrors! Plush demonspawn!

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Mar'Taghn, The Well of Sleeping Dreams.

Hahn E'Lore, The Thrice Cleansed.

Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning.

Bubbleorath, Matron of Lost Secrets.

Yog-Dorah, The Keeper of Forbidden Brews.

Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 May 2018, 18:51
Anthropomorphic Animals... wouldn't that just be The Whiteboard (http://the-whiteboard.com/)?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 13 May 2018, 20:05
I like cats (as evident from my avatar) but an assortment of animals would be cute too.

I reckon Claire would be a fox due to being red-haired and fluffy with a pointy nose; Marten would be a pine marten for obvious reasons; Elliott would be something like an elephant or a panda to go with his "gentle giant" persona; Cosette would be a penguin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcx6YyXvvRI); Tai would be a marmot as she's small and good at rock-climbing; and as Marigold is already known as Mar-Bear she'd be a bear.
For some reason, I am picturing Hanners as a meerkat - if only for the “cute” factor. Although there is also the fact that meerkats seldom leave their home except to get food.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 13 May 2018, 20:14
Cute monsters! Of course they have to be cute slimy tentaclly Cthulhoid sea monsters! Muppety eldritch horrors! Plush demonspawn!

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Mar'Taghn, The Well of Sleeping Dreams.

Hahn E'Lore, The Thrice Cleansed.

Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning.

Bubbleorath, Matron of Lost Secrets.

Yog-Dorah, The Keeper of Forbidden Brews.

Pintsize.

I went for the cutsey monsters option, at least in part so that when we get the inevitable posts like, "I hate Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning, she's a bully and a monster," it will be a lot more amusing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 13 May 2018, 21:19
Cute monsters! Of course they have to be cute slimy tentaclly Cthulhoid sea monsters! Muppety eldritch horrors! Plush demonspawn!

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Mar'Taghn, The Well of Sleeping Dreams.

Hahn E'Lore, The Thrice Cleansed.

Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning.

Bubbleorath, Matron of Lost Secrets.

Yog-Dorah, The Keeper of Forbidden Brews.

Pintsize.

You misspelled Spookybot at the end there.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 13 May 2018, 21:25
I'd quite like to know who would win if Pintsize and Spookybot were to engage in a contest of who could be the most disturbing.

Just, y'know, tell me the outcome. I don't want to *see* it, I like my brain non-melted.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 13 May 2018, 21:29
I'd quite like to know who would win if Pintsize and Spookybot were to engage in a contest of who could be the most disturbing.

Just, y'know, tell me the outcome. I don't want to *see* it, I like my brain non-melted.
Pintsize has the advantage of being more perverse, but Spookybot has the advantage of being an all-knowing, all-seeing, gestalt AI entity. So I guess it would depend on the judge’s definition of “most disturbing”.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 13 May 2018, 21:40
And it's up! Tai is there to be amazing. Huzzah!

And Bubbles thinks she did something wrong. That's an awful feeling. She was just doing exactly what Faye asked her to do. Now she's afraid she destroyed the most important relationship in her life and she has no idea how or why so she has no idea where to even start to try to fix it. It's an ugly blend of guilt and helplessness and it can eat a person up inside. It may not be an exactly rational way to feel, but that doesn't make those feelings any less real or valid and I just wish I could hug her until the hurting stopped.

On a barely related tangent, I think Tai's current style looks a little like a cross between Faye and Tilly. I'm really digging it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Nycticoraci on 13 May 2018, 21:41
The talk of bubbles destroying things has just made me picture the following:

May finally succeeds in stealing/buying from black market a UAV, and becomes a fighterjet.

She then see's bubbles flying through the air in hulk-style, ready to smash.

Pintsize is on the ground, with super-happy oval eyes.

Momo is panicking about humans seeing, and then thinking there's a robot uprising.

Winslow is on the other side of the world and doesn't appear in this vision.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 May 2018, 21:46
Well done, Tai!

Totally in character for Bubbles to be over-responsible.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 13 May 2018, 21:52
Awwwwwww, good friending, Tai!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 13 May 2018, 21:56
Cute monsters! Of course they have to be cute slimy tentaclly Cthulhoid sea monsters! Muppety eldritch horrors! Plush demonspawn!

(click to show/hide)
I have the firt issue of that, a mini version and the Vacation model which I used to great effect as I cosplayed FNANP on vacation since I, for some weird opposition of the infinite circles of reality, had a matching outfit ready to go - really orange shorts, blue Hawaiian shirt, straw hat, sandals - More concerning were the number of cuties that recognized the character.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 13 May 2018, 21:59
On a barely related tangent, I think Tai's current style looks a little like a cross between Faye and Tilly. I'm really digging it.

At first glance I thought she was Faye, just for a moment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 13 May 2018, 22:27
Well, you might have ended the friendship, Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 May 2018, 22:31
I like cats (as evident from my avatar) but an assortment of animals would be cute too.

I reckon Claire would be a fox due to being red-haired and fluffy with a pointy nose; Marten would be a pine marten for obvious reasons; Elliott would be something like an elephant or a panda to go with his "gentle giant" persona; Cosette would be a penguin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcx6YyXvvRI); Tai would be a marmot as she's small and good at rock-climbing; and as Marigold is already known as Mar-Bear she'd be a bear.
For some reason, I am picturing Hanners as a meerkat - if only for the “cute” factor. Although there is also the fact that meerkats seldom leave their home except to get food.
I'd go with raccoon since they're known as 'was bears' in multiple languages, but they also have a propensity for digging around in trash cans.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 May 2018, 22:40
Awww, Bubbles. :D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: theMarc on 13 May 2018, 22:45
Now I want to see Bubbles destroying a bunch of tanks and a helicopter.

I also want a video game where you play as Bubbles destroying a bunch of tanks and a helicopter.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 13 May 2018, 22:52
Well, you might have ended the friendship, Bubbles.
Friendships don't cease to be friendships just because a romantic element develops. My wife was my best friend long before we started dating and continued to be my best friend for the rest of her life.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 13 May 2018, 22:56
I chose ducks since I was looking into that new Ducktales reboot.

Don’t feel bad Bubbles.  I’m sure all those tanks were bad.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 13 May 2018, 23:01
I want to hear that war story, Bubbles.  I'm thinking she tore the tail boom off and smashed the engine nascelles with it.  There wasn't even enough left for the Bad Guys to cannibalize the thing for parts.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: blt on 13 May 2018, 23:03
Bubbles really got the wide-eyes-cute-treatment in this strip.  I'm okay with it.

"I hate Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning, she's a bully and a monster,"

I'd like to steal this for a sig or something.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 May 2018, 23:07
What comes next is that every relationship ends in a breakup except those that end with a death.

I really, really hope that if there's a breakup that they are able to keep their friendship. It is a rare and wonderful thing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 13 May 2018, 23:14
Friendships don't cease to be friendships just because a romantic element develops. My wife was my best friend long before we started dating and continued to be my best friend for the rest of her life.

I mean look, yes, but "You've ended the purely platonic nature of the friendship" was a bit overly verbose, so I simplified for the sake of making the joke, because I was trying to make a witticism.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 13 May 2018, 23:15
Poor Bubbles! She and Faye have one thing above all else in common: frighteningly strong insecurity! She's really worried that she is so frightening or disgusting that Faye would just flee instead of talk to her!

Meanwhile, Tai is doing a surprisingly good job here. I was sort of expecting her to make inappropriate suggestions or just be a bit too flippant. It seems that having to deal with Dora's occasional bouts of paranoia has made her mature more than a little. Also: Can any archive ninja out there remember the strips where she told Claire that she was going to dye her hair red?

Finally, there's a reminder that Bubbles has been to places most of us will never imagine - A place of fire, fury and death, quite frequently death that she has personally dispensed. I think that she can be forgiven for having more than a few mental and emotional scars that will never fully heal.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 01:11
What comes next is that every relationship ends in a breakup except those that end with a death.

I really, really hope that if there's a breakup that they are able to keep their friendship. It is a rare and wonderful thing.
It's Shakespeare as anime... Everyone dies, but instead of being stabbed or poisoned, they're all swallowed up by a Black Sun.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 14 May 2018, 01:22
Melancholia
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 01:25
Also: Can any archive ninja out there remember the strips where she told Claire that she was going to dye her hair red?
Her hair has always been red (well, since we met her anyway). It's only just recently that she seems to have buzzed everything but the top, and apparently has natural brown hair growing in underneath.


But I suspect that you were thinking of this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2361)?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Akima on 14 May 2018, 02:09
I'm sure the helicopter did deserve it. Helicopters are the aeronautical equivalent of eldritch abominations held together by dark magics.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 14 May 2018, 03:10

"... and they never even got their sodaaa...!"


(Bubbles line about "having no intention" of crossing a line is interesting...)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 14 May 2018, 03:17

Mar'Taghn, The Well of Sleeping Dreams.

Hahn E'Lore, The Thrice Cleansed.

Fayelhotehp, She Who Smites the Morning.

Bubbleorath, Matron of Lost Secrets.

Yog-Dorah, The Keeper of Forbidden Brews.


Jebus!
As if we don't already have problems with people mis-spelling character names !!  :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 May 2018, 03:27

"... and they never even got their sodaaa...!"


(Bubbles line about "having no intention" of crossing a line is interesting...)

It isn't even slightly surprising. She told Faye that she was 'content' with her romantic attachment status and I believe that she told the truth. She never intended to force the issue and was continually trying to hide her feelings from Faye. She never intended to initiate physical intimacy but it happened nonetheless and now she's beating herself up, sure that she's overstepped some mark or offended Faye in some way.

In the end, Bubbles greatly overestimated her ability to have control over her actions and greatly underestimated how her desires could subconsciously influence her behaviour.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 May 2018, 04:09
Friendships don't cease to be friendships just because a romantic element develops. My wife was my best friend long before we started dating and continued to be my best friend for the rest of her life.

I mean look, yes, but "You've ended the purely platonic nature of the friendship" was a bit overly verbose, so I simplified for the sake of making the joke, because I was trying to make a witticism.

File it under 'this is why we can't have nice things.' Sadly, humanity means we can't often give the benefit of the doubt...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 14 May 2018, 04:36
I like cats (as evident from my avatar) but an assortment of animals would be cute too.

I reckon Claire would be a fox due to being red-haired and fluffy with a pointy nose; Marten would be a pine marten for obvious reasons; Elliott would be something like an elephant or a panda to go with his "gentle giant" persona; Cosette would be a penguin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcx6YyXvvRI); Tai would be a marmot as she's small and good at rock-climbing; and as Marigold is already known as Mar-Bear she'd be a bear.
For some reason, I am picturing Hanners as a meerkat - if only for the “cute” factor. Although there is also the fact that meerkats seldom leave their home except to get food.

I was thinking that too, actually - they're twitchy and alert, which fits Hannelore well.

On another note, I really like Tai's outfit in today's comic ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 04:57
Well, Bubbles doesn't say anything about how her body got confused. Interesting to hear what happened told by both of them.
(https://i.imgur.com/yzVqsAd.png)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 05:28
Am I crazy to have this fear that Bubbles will actually say "Faye, I'm sorry but I just see you as a friend." I mean, Bubbles thinks Faye is hot, feels affection for her, but what if...maybe, it's only in a friend way?

I don't know why this fear is in my head now. Or maybe Bubbles isn't ready to have a relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SleeperCylon on 14 May 2018, 05:51
Something I'm curious about that I'm not sure has been answered in the comic.  Is Bubbles' skin texturally similar to a human?  I always assumed it was metallic.  Or are sentient robots built like Data or Westworld hosts, 'fully anatomically functional'?

Also if Faye and Bubbles end up not having the relationship I would love to see the comic make the statement that two people can have a deep emotional intimacy without a physical component.  I think one of the few downsides to better portrayal of the flexibility of sexuality is that it's become the assumption that any pair of people who have emotional love for each other also want to have sex.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 May 2018, 05:55
Something I'm curious about that I'm not sure has been answered in the comic.  Is Bubbles' skin texturally similar to a human?  I always assumed it was metallic.  Or are sentient robots built like Data or Westworld hosts, 'fully anatomically functional'?

Anthropomimetic chassis like Bubbles, Momo and Winslow have a synthetic skin called 'Derma' that's flexible, water=proof and soft to the touch. I don't know whether it feels like human skin but no-one who's been in contact with such a chassis has made any 'uncanny valley' references.

Bubbles' chassis covering also has a bulletproof layer to the point where Faye thinks she's invulnerable to anything short of a 308 Magnum rifle.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: torrrential on 14 May 2018, 07:39
According to strip http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004) her armourcan resist a 3 cm APFSDS round.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 May 2018, 07:42
That's her stand-off outer plating; I'm talking about the intrinsic strength of her chassis without that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 May 2018, 08:55
It's high risk but they could be a great couple.

They can have deep affection no matter what. It would not be the first asexual marriage in history if it develops that way.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 10:39
Something I'm curious about that I'm not sure has been answered in the comic.  Is Bubbles' skin texturally similar to a human?  I always assumed it was metallic.  Or are sentient robots built like Data or Westworld hosts, 'fully anatomically functional'?

Anthropomimetic chassis like Bubbles, Momo and Winslow have a synthetic skin called 'Derma' that's flexible, water=proof and soft to the touch. I don't know whether it feels like human skin but no-one who's been in contact with such a chassis has made any 'uncanny valley' references.

Bubbles' chassis covering also has a bulletproof layer to the point where Faye thinks she's invulnerable to anything short of a 308 Magnum rifle.
Bubbles did mention (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3238) that the darker armor beneath the outer armor was less protective than the outer plating, but I do not recall any conversation about Bubbles' skin itself being bulletproof.

As for their dermal covering, it's a little unclear how old Bubbles' chassis is, so hers may not be quite as realistic, but Clinton noted (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2068) (to his own shock and surprise) how lifelike Momo's skin felt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 May 2018, 10:57
Faye told Bubbles that she didn't need to wear the outer plating because, even without it, she couldn't be damaged by anything other than a high-power rifle. That was when Bubbles indicated that her armour wasn't about protecting herself from physical injury.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Roborat on 14 May 2018, 12:33
Poor Bubbles, she looks so cute in this page.  Also, she should have kill marks painted on her chest, for those tanks and helicopter she took out.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 14 May 2018, 14:08
According to strip http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004) her armourcan resist a 3 cm APFSDS round.

However, that same comic also claims she gives terrifying backrubs.

Unless they mean "terrifyingly pleasurable...." :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 14:19
Faye told Bubbles that she didn't need to wear the outer plating because, even without it, she couldn't be damaged by anything other than a high-power rifle. That was when Bubbles indicated that her armour wasn't about protecting herself from physical injury.
When Faye asked about her armour, she said "Why wear it then? Anti-tank rifles are illegal in this state." That did not imply anything about what she thought concerning the protective nature of Bubbles' skin. It only implied that wearing armour is unnecessary, since people aren't carrying military-grade armour-piercing weapons around on the street.


And FWIW, an anti-tank rifle is a lot larger, heavier, and more powerful than a .308 magnum. A .308 would penetrate Kevlar, but not your average body armour. Some of the ones used in WWII fired a smaller bullet (7.62mm), but with more power, and hence a higher velocity (they also had a tendency to injure the person firing them, because the recoil was so strong), but they were only effective against light armour. With the thicker armour used on tanks in the latter part of WWII, those rifles became essentially obsolete, since they were no longer effective against tanks, but were too heavy and powerful to carry as a regular small arm. Even the British "Boys" .55 caliber anti-armour rifle became largely ineffective by the end of WWII. The Browning M2 .50 caliber machine gun is still effective against light armoured vehicles, but at 121 lbs, it is far too heavy to be carried and must be mounted on a vehicle (or in an aircraft). Even the "light barrel" version weighs 60 lbs without any ammunition.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: gopher on 14 May 2018, 15:25
Tilly, Tai and Faye seem to be very similar art these days.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 14 May 2018, 19:23
JEPH YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER BAST...

(Ahem.)

Comic's up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 14 May 2018, 19:34
WELP.

At least she was looking for Bubbles instead of booze!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 14 May 2018, 19:37
I thought this might be a good moment to reflect on just how far Bubbles has come (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3003).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 May 2018, 19:39
A delight and a relief.

Tai is there to mediate the Awkward Conversation that's about to happen. With these two, having a third party around is likely to help.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 19:44
I wanna see kisses!!!! Kisses, kisses, kisses.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 19:49
I thought this might be a good moment to reflect on just how far Bubbles has come (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3003).

She showed hardly any emotion at first! She's come so far. If you look at her facial expressions there and in the most recent comic, wow, can't even believe that's the same Bubbles. She has really come a long way!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 19:51
JEPH YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER BAST...

(Ahem.)

Comic's up.
You were about to say "bastion of suspense", right?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zelia on 14 May 2018, 19:52
JEPH YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER BAST...

(Ahem.)

Comic's up.

Cut to Steve eating cereal. For the rest of the week.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 14 May 2018, 19:54
I am contemplating that it may not be Faye.

Turns out, Bubbles' unit didn't all die. There was a survivor, and they have finally tracked her down.

"Drama Drama Drama Drama Drama Chameleon..."

(Sorry Case)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 14 May 2018, 19:58
JEPH YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER BAST...

(Ahem.)

Comic's up.

Cut to Steve eating cereal. For the rest of the week.

Every time someone makes this joke, Jeph delays the resolution of this storyline for another strip.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 May 2018, 20:00
The reason Steve hasn't been seen in a while is he died of a cereal overdose.  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 14 May 2018, 20:01
I am contemplating that it may not be Faye.


My thought is that if it isn't Faye it's Spookybot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 20:03
Yeah, Faye wouldn't just be like "there you are!" after their previous interaction. She'd be like "Bubs?"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 May 2018, 20:19
Spookybot wouldn't say "there you are!" either. Spookybot always knows where everyone is.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 14 May 2018, 20:20
Turns out, Bubbles' unit didn't all die. There was a survivor, and they have finally tracked her down.

Oh, that would be very interesting indeed. Ever since the revelation that Corpse Witch deleted her memory wholesale, Bubbles has taken for granted that she's lost all connection to her past. But the past has a way of catching up with you, and (especially in this case) not always for the worse.

But (sadly) I don't think that's what's about to happen. If Bubbles doesn't have any memory of her comrades' faces, she wouldn't recognize a survivor at first glance. So she wouldn't have the sort of immediate reaction to seeing them again as she does in the fourth panel.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Hypersapien on 14 May 2018, 20:20
Calling it now. That's not Faye at the door. It's someone from Bubbles' past that we've never seen before who is going to complicate the Faye/Bubbles storyline.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 14 May 2018, 20:24
Quote from: Fitzwilliam Darcy
`I cannot fix on the hour, or the spot, or the look, or the words, which laid the foundation. It is too long ago. I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun.''
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: tut21 on 14 May 2018, 20:28
That fourth panel is lovely.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 20:33
(https://i.imgur.com/WDrTrEm.png)

Sorry guys, I can't seem to stop doing these...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 14 May 2018, 21:20
"But I do not know what to do with them!"

Boy, story of my life...   :-P

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 14 May 2018, 21:33
According to strip http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3004) her armourcan resist a 3 cm APFSDS round.

However, that same comic also claims she gives terrifying backrubs.

Unless they mean "terrifyingly pleasurable...." :-)
Well... Faye ran away after one of Bubbles backrubs and freaked out about her feelings. I think "terrifying" still fits - even if it wasn't terrifying in the way we might have expected.  :-P

I also admit to being impressed by Tai (and Dora) here - I never thought that Tai would be a good person for Bubbles to talk to in this situation but she's been excellent.

And damn that cliffhanger! I think it is Faye and that her exclamation "There you are!" is an indication that she's been looking around town (getting more and more worried) since she got back to their workshop and discovered Bubbles was missing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 21:36
Calling it now. That's not Faye at the door. It's someone from Bubbles' past that we've never seen before who is going to complicate the Faye/Bubbles storyline.
Oh, that would just be the ultimate cruelty. Not even Jeph is that sadistic.

...or is he?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 14 May 2018, 21:37
"If QC were adapted into a "kid friendly" animated series..."
 :?
I'm sorry, I can't do the poll this week - every time I read the line above, my mind starts flashing warning lights, smoking,  and intoning "Does Not Compute" while spraying punch cards all over the floor (Yeah, my hardware is that old).

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 14 May 2018, 22:01
I thought this might be a good moment to reflect on just how far Bubbles has come (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3003).

She showed hardly any emotion at first! She's come so far. If you look at her facial expressions there and in the most recent comic, wow, can't even believe that's the same Bubbles. She has really come a long way!

Is sarcasm an emotion? Or humorous retorts?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 14 May 2018, 22:03
The reason Steve hasn't been seen in a while is he died of a cereal overdose.  :cry:

Maybe he's patching up the hole that Melon made? Or he's out buying more cereal after Melon ate the rest?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 22:03
Sarcasm was her main language and emotion when she first met Faye. She was super guarded around Faye too, just look at them now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 14 May 2018, 22:05
Spookybot wouldn't say "there you are!" either. Spookybot always knows where everyone is.

True...but Spooky did seem to have a flair for the dramatic so it's still possible even if unlikely.

Of course, it could always be someone we didn't expect- like maybe May? or Momo?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 14 May 2018, 22:06
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 14 May 2018, 22:07
"If QC were adapted into a "kid friendly" animated series..."
 :?
I'm sorry, I can't do the poll this week - every time I read the line above, my mind starts flashing warning lights, smoking,  and intoning "Does Not Compute" while spraying punch cards all over the floor (Yeah, my hardware is that old).

It's 90s MTV or 2000s Adult Swim adult-centric comedic animated show or bust, there's no way it could be adapted to a teen animated show like "6 Teen" or "Total Drama" let alone a "kid friendly" one.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 14 May 2018, 22:09
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?

Actually, I think it's in the spirit of the story and totally relevant and would open up a whole new avenue of discussion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 22:15
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?
But is gender a choice for the wearer? It's a software construct, but that doesn't mean that they can change it at will. It could very well be Read-Only.

Take Winslow, for example. His original chassis - an overgrown iPod - had no gender-specific features, but he still identified as a boy.

So if an AI that is coded as female gets put into a male body, it might cause a software/hardware conflict.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 May 2018, 22:17
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?

I mean...yes and no. I think the "spirit" that an AI has is male or female. Sure, an AI can switch bodies, but how they feel remains the same, I think. I don't think Bubbles or Roko or Momo would feel comfortable presenting as male, because fundamentally they are not.

I feel like it's sort of like how I could undergo gender reassignment surgery, but I wouldn't be comfortable or happy with myself afterwards. I'm comfortable as female and being a woman, and undergoing surgery wouldn't make me feel male, just dysphoria.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 14 May 2018, 22:35
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?

I disagree. Winslow identified himself as a boy before getting a humanoid chassis. Pintsize seems to be in a genderless chassis but identifies himself as male. It is explained in 347 that gender is software dependent, not hardware; though Winslow stating "I think I'm a boy" suggests that Jeph may be changing that dynamic somewhat as he humanizes the AI characters (and maybe due to taking a more nuanced approach to gender identity in general, e.g. Claire). And Bubbles seems pretty well integrated with her body. Perhaps not as much so as Roko, but certainly more so than Punchbot (who seems completely unfazed by massive physical trauma).

Regardless of how gender functions with AI, should Bubbles fundamentally alter who she is for the sake of Faye's comfort? Even if it was as easy as altering a line in a config file, is it appropriate to treat it as casually as changing shirts?

(Awgiedawgie and Fayelovesbubbles beat me to it, so a massive "Hell, yeah!" to the both of them)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 14 May 2018, 22:49
(Awgiedawgie and Fayelovesbubbles beat me to it, so a massive "Hell, yeah!" to the both of them)
Great minds think alike.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 14 May 2018, 23:10
I realize it's not the spirit of the story, but we've seen several AI characters switch bodies.  Gender is just another choice for the wearer.  If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?

I disagree. Winslow identified himself as a boy before getting a humanoid chassis. Pintsize seems to be in a genderless chassis but identifies himself as male. It is explained in 347 that gender is software dependent, not hardware; though Winslow stating "I think I'm a boy" suggests that Jeph may be changing that dynamic somewhat as he humanizes the AI characters (and maybe due to taking a more nuanced approach to gender identity in general, e.g. Claire). And Bubbles seems pretty well integrated with her body. Perhaps not as much so as Roko, but certainly more so than Punchbot (who seems completely unfazed by massive physical trauma).

Regardless of how gender functions with AI, should Bubbles fundamentally alter who she is for the sake of Faye's comfort? Even if it was as easy as altering a line in a config file, is it appropriate to treat it as casually as changing shirts?

(Awgiedawgie and Fayelovesbubbles beat me to it, so a massive "Hell, yeah!" to the both of them)

There's also Bubbles' attachment to her chassis - she doesn't have the memories and she no longer wears her armor, so her chassis is in some ways her only link to her past.  I don't care how much she loves Faye or Faye loves her, asking her to give that up so she can present as male to be more appealing/comfortably appealing to Faye is just wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 14 May 2018, 23:17
There's the rub; Bubbles has realised that she isn't as good at controlling her feelings (or at preventing her feelings from affecting her behaviour) than she anticipated. Now, she's terrified that she's scared Faye off and... wow, the way her voice hitches when she mentions Faye touched her back! Whether or not her chassis has a pleasure response to such contacts, she definitely was able to fill in the blanks!

I find it an interesting subtlety the way that Jeph drew Bubbles fiddling nervously with her hair. He's going to a lot of effort to demonstrate just how strongly Faye and Bubbles are being affected by their shifting feelings (and, more importantly, their shifting awareness of them) is affecting their calm and thinking.

Now, I'm going to insist on Jeph making a confession: Jeph, you made Bubbles' hair longer simply because you wanted to draw her hair swirling around her dramatically the way it is in panel 4, didn't you? :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 14 May 2018, 23:17
It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 May 2018, 23:17
One wrinkle is that 347 came from a time when Jeph was handling AnthroPCs completely differently from today and it may no longer be canon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bollthorn on 14 May 2018, 23:20
Love panel 4. Bubbles looks lovely with her hair down.

Also please be Faye please be Faye please be Faye please be Faye
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 15 May 2018, 00:45
One wrinkle is that 347 came from a time when Jeph was handling AnthroPCs completely differently from today and it may no longer be canon.

That's very true, and I did admit that other events suggest that Jeph was moving away from his initial stance on AI gender. But I think that the way he is developing AI characters and his approach to gender in general suggests to me that he would be moving towards a position more closely resembling gender essentialism rather than further from it. If Jeph treated gender as being something independent of the chassis even then, I cannot imagine he would do otherwise now, especially considering his marvelous handling of Claire and her relationship with her body.*

*I am thinking specifically of Claire and Marten's first night of sexual intimacy and Claire disrobing and saying "this is me". Jeph's decision to not reveal the status of her transition and subsequent refusal to do so is really powerful for me. It is a meaningful declaration that the particular shape of her body has nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply cannot believe he would do any different for Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 15 May 2018, 01:08
Dear Mr Word-of-God Creator Almighty Sir: this is no time for vacation or any other distractions! We are on the edge of a several year long plot, and we can't have any delays in postings because you are brushing a yak or sampling ham at some space station! Please stay focussed...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Pennepasta on 15 May 2018, 03:04
The reason Steve hasn't been seen in a while is he died of a cereal overdose.  :cry:

I'd have thought he'd have had enough training to take out a cereal killer by now...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 15 May 2018, 04:12
I think Bubbles' hair getting longer is part of her becoming more comfortable in herself. Like being more expressive and laughing and bonding with Faye. I think her hair is a good representation of that.

Think about this, can you imagine old Bubbles (when she first met Faye) with a ponytail? I can't.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: mephron on 15 May 2018, 04:44
Maybe it’s Claire, who Marten called not knowing about the Code 3.  She stumbles a lot, but if Marten has to hold down the library with Tai away (with a “gotta go” as all they know, Claire has the kind of empathy to help.



The background change kind of points to Spooky, though.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: heyjames4 on 15 May 2018, 06:27
I've said it before. But I'm really impressed with how the art is these days. Not just the anatomy, but the scene composition and body language and faces. These days you barely need the dialogue to get the characters emotiosn and the gist of the story. It's a big change from the days of standing around a couch covered in verbose word bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 15 May 2018, 06:47
Like the dramatic anime lighting in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 May 2018, 06:59
Now we just need to see who it is...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: maxRNG on 15 May 2018, 09:03
While I agree that "There you are!" isn't exactly in character for Faye, the next strip (as per Patreon preview) is titled "Act Natural," so this person being Faye could work if she's putting up an act. The other reason I think that it might be Faye and not Marty or Claire or someone else is that I can't think of anyone else who would elicit such a reaction from Bubs. Any of them coming in in response to the code 3 would be in character, but the framing of the last panel wouldn't make sense, although Jeph has trolled us like this in the past (looking at you, early Marty/Claire interactions).
It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Take a closer look, it says "Bubbles' Chair." The partial obstruction of the C could be Jeph drawing attention to it, but even if that isn't the case, the sign does still show how CoD sees Bubbles not just as a regular, but an important part of the community.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 15 May 2018, 09:04
I always say Jeph is at his absolute best when writing for Bubbles.

Today's strip cements that belief into place so firmly I can't move!

Love.
It.

(Yeah... is it or is it not Faye? Whoever it is, I see hugs in the near future! :) )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 15 May 2018, 09:41
It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Take a closer look, it says "Bubbles' Chair." The partial obstruction of the C could be Jeph drawing attention to it, but even if that isn't the case, the sign does still show how CoD sees Bubbles not just as a regular, but an important part of the community.

r/woooosh (https://www.reddit.com/r/woooosh/)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 15 May 2018, 09:55
Why are there so many doubts regarding the voice coming from Faye or not? Bubbles should be able to recognize a voice easily and she wouldn't react that way if it wasn't Faye.
And no, a "I wasn't dead" companion from her unit does not compute at all. Sounds like awful soap opera. In that case it might as well be a soldier from her dead unit saying "And I have your son right here as well!".  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: maxRNG on 15 May 2018, 10:31
It's super nice that the Coffee of Doom staff set up a "Bubbles' Hair" sign for us to really draw attention to the significance of her letting it down.
Take a closer look, it says "Bubbles' Chair." The partial obstruction of the C could be Jeph drawing attention to it, but even if that isn't the case, the sign does still show how CoD sees Bubbles not just as a regular, but an important part of the community.

r/woooosh (https://www.reddit.com/r/woooosh/)
Wait, that was supposed to be sarcastic? Sorry, it's really hard to tell with just plain text.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 May 2018, 10:40
What if sexual orientation turns out to be a software setting even if gender identity is not?

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 15 May 2018, 10:51
New comic is uuuupppp!

And… huh. Dora gives good advice, Tai.

Also, Bubbles is looking utterly amazing today.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Skewbrow on 15 May 2018, 10:51
A doubleheader today! Thanks, Jeph!

Carefully avoiding eye contact in panels two and four :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 15 May 2018, 11:02
Why are there so many doubts regarding the voice coming from Faye or not? Bubbles should be able to recognize a voice easily and she wouldn't react that way if it wasn't Faye.
And no, a "I wasn't dead" companion from her unit does not compute at all. Sounds like awful soap opera. In that case it might as well be a soldier from her dead unit saying "And I have your son right here as well!".  :roll:

Well...

I mean...

It *could* still be an ex soldier. Who has disguised themselves as Faye to get close to Bubbles...

And reveal her secret child...

And then the real Faye walks in and it's all "OMG" and "Which one is real??"...

... right?

(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: tut21 on 15 May 2018, 11:18
Excellent use of background color, or the lack of it, to indicate how everything else in the world receded for a minute when Bubbles and Faye reunited. I'm glad it returned because I was starting to wonder if they were in the afterlife. :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 15 May 2018, 11:54
There she is!! https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 also, step 2, 3, 4, and final: https://sambakza.newgrounds.com/movies/

=)

Meant to put this in this topic.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 15 May 2018, 12:21
This is the most realistic outcome.  They’re both insecure and don’t want to make a scene so playing it cool even though they know their feelings for each other isn’t a secret anymore is the most we can expect for now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 15 May 2018, 13:11
Long-time lurker here and I had to register today! What a development! I thought the unresolved Bubs-Faye thing was going to drag on for years to come! I guess it still can...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 15 May 2018, 14:12
Poor Faye! She must have literally run all the way from Union Robotics to the apartment and then run all the way to Coffee of Doom (possibly with other stops in the middle including the Skate Park). If there is any proof needed that she wants and needs Bubbles in her life, it is that she was driven frantic by the thought of her being gone!

I do love panel 4. Poor Faye and Bubbles are so desperately trying to play it cool and play it casual but instead come across as two people catapulted out of a self-imposed closet by their own misjudgements (note the panic-stricken stares). Even then, they can't stop sending out 'we are a couple' vibes! No wonder Tai is coming over all nostalgic!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 May 2018, 14:23
Welcome, sort of new person!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 15 May 2018, 14:40
(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
Meanwhile, I've been saying all along what Dora is saying now. The ship may be stocked with fuel and provisions, manned and ready, but it still hasn't sailed. At any point along the way, any number of things could have happened, and still can even now.

They both realize there's something there, but then when they're together, they avoid talking about it. And as long as they continue to avoid it, that ship is going to remain moored to the docks.

They may think it's safer to avoid it, rather than risk sinking the ship, but sooner or later, they're going to have to have that talk, or the ship will simply fall apart where it sits.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 15 May 2018, 14:50
(I'm with Tai. I'm not just counting sailors, I'm giving them all names and a backstory.)
Meanwhile, I've been saying all along what Dora is saying now. The ship may be stocked with fuel and provisions, manned and ready, but it still hasn't sailed. At any point along the way, any number of things could have happened, and still can even now.

They both realize there's something there, but then when they're together, they avoid talking about it. And as long as they continue to avoid it, that ship is going to remain moored to the docks.

They may think it's safer to avoid it, rather than risk sinking the ship, but sooner or later, they're going to have to have that talk, or the ship will simply fall apart where it sits.

To be fair, one of them as only *just* realized it. But I agree a talk has to happen for anything nautical to occur.

Doesn't mean I can't sit on the dock wearing a little sailor hat and waving a flag.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 15 May 2018, 16:01
"I saw your armor and it was still in the closet" ...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 15 May 2018, 16:05
All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 15 May 2018, 16:12
All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)

If you like I can change tack, reef my sails and steer clear. I can see you racing off at a rate of knots. Perhaps it'd be better if you were three sheets to the wind?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 May 2018, 16:37
 :-D

Awwww

I'm not assuming this ship is setting sail until they talk. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 May 2018, 16:40
All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

(I stole this line from somewhere and now I can't remember where)
That'd be Jimbo. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=514)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 15 May 2018, 16:49
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: tut21 on 15 May 2018, 17:19
There she is!! https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/161181 also, step 2, 3, 4, and final: https://sambakza.newgrounds.com/movies/

=)

Meant to put this in this topic.

Thanks for this. I had somehow never been exposed that charming series. I watched all five.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 May 2018, 17:26
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Welu on 15 May 2018, 17:32
I'm loving Bubbles' hair in this strip. Great interaction too, I'm really excited to see more in this arc.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: keithcurtis on 15 May 2018, 18:28
I'm thinking talking is in the near future, but I'm glad it didn't happen in CoD. That's a very private and vulnerable talk to have.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Case on 15 May 2018, 18:37
All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.

There ya go

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d3ee7cb4caedf253ff55807fbda49b11-c)

Nothing 'phorical about that one ...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BillGuy on 15 May 2018, 19:00
One wrinkle is that 347 came from a time when Jeph was handling AnthroPCs completely differently from today and it may no longer be canon.

That's very true, and I did admit that other events suggest that Jeph was moving away from his initial stance on AI gender. But I think that the way he is developing AI characters and his approach to gender in general suggests to me that he would be moving towards a position more closely resembling gender essentialism rather than further from it. If Jeph treated gender as being something independent of the chassis even then, I cannot imagine he would do otherwise now, especially considering his marvelous handling of Claire and her relationship with her body.*

*I am thinking specifically of Claire and Marten's first night of sexual intimacy and Claire disrobing and saying "this is me". Jeph's decision to not reveal the status of her transition and subsequent refusal to do so is really powerful for me. It is a meaningful declaration that the particular shape of her body has nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply cannot believe he would do any different for Bubbles.

I think the real mark of change I think was when 'the singularity happened' in strip 1777 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1777). It seems to be after this there is a significant change in all AI's as a whole in the comic. Granted this is right before the Martin/Dora break-up so it's not till over a hundred strips later (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1898) when we touch on it again, meet Clinton and AI civil rights is mentioned. In strip 1921 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1921) we do still have mention of PT410X and his obviously HORRIBLE 'owner' but by strip 1997 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1997) we have Momo getting her new chassis and BAM! the first humanoid AI's we've seen since Hanners's dad sent her the 'boyfriend.' After that it snowballs, strips 2068-2072 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2068) we see Clinton again and further the AI's story-line along further, strip 2085 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085) brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)', 2283-2285 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2283) Momo and Emily talk about companion AI relationship contracts, 2332 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332) Momo and Pintsize talk compainionship.. Then the next strip Jeph gets revisionist and the AI workng the  'AnthroPC Companion Connections' place is a humanoid AI much like all the ones we see now..

I guess what I'm saying is, there was a point where things changed for AI's and they rapidly advanced in the QC verse and their sexuality is no different.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 15 May 2018, 19:49
...strip 2085 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085) brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)'...
FWIW, I read that title as AI Civil Rights: An Ongoing Debate. I could be wrong, of course, since it is rather impossible to actually make out most of the letters, but it does make sense when you consider the opening paragraph of the full text on Jeph's tumblr post is
Quote
The subject of this debate is whether AIs are “people-” whether they possess the same degree of personhood as humans, and whether that entitles them to the same rights.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 May 2018, 21:09
On the subject of the poll, there's a small(ish) species of bear in South America called the spectacled bear.

Perhaps Marbear could be one of those.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Storel on 15 May 2018, 21:11
Yeah, I think they want to talk in private, not in front of Dora and Tai and whoever else walks into CoD.

Notice how Fay has her hand on Bubbles's arm as they leave? They know something's changed. But I bet they get the rest of their work done for the day before they start talking about it.

Either that, or they start trying to talk about it as soon as they get back to the shop, only to keep getting interrupted by more customers than they've had all month. Jeph does enjoy torturing his characters so...  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Spider on 15 May 2018, 21:19
Hello everyone! I'm Jordan. Sorry to rush past introductions but I've been waiting around for the last two weeks for the right moment to hop in here and gush about my feelings to all of you strangers.

When I started reading QC I was 12 years old and thought I was straight. I am now 20 years old and a lesbian. In a way it feels like the comic has grown up with me. As I became aware of more social issues, it seems that QC did as well.

Now there's a chance that Faye, the girl I grew up with, might also be realizing she's not straight. I couldn't be happier. I love Faye and Bubbles so much and the dynamic they share. I have felt what they are feeling- the dawning realization that the way you're acting around your friend isn't exactly platonic and what that might mean about you, and realizing you have feelings for your best friend but deciding you can never act on them for fear of ruining things. I know it very well.

So get me a captain's hat and call me a shipper, but I hope with all my heart that these two end up in a loving stable relationship together. I know that nothing is guaranteed at the moment but I'm staying optimistic here. So many femslash relationships have been teased and hinted at and have gotten my hopes up that eventually let me down, that at this point I'm numb to that sort of disappointment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 May 2018, 21:47
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 15 May 2018, 22:08
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

(click to show/hide)
How fitting for a physicist to cite that strip. Just don't expect anyone to start calling you "Science Fairy"  ;D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 15 May 2018, 23:01
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone came through with the answer. :)
I sensed that someone needed help and swooped to the rescue!

(click to show/hide)
How fitting for a physicist to cite that strip. Just don't expect anyone to start calling you "Science Fairy"  ;D

Don't listen to awgiedawgie, Science Fairy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 May 2018, 23:16
These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 16 May 2018, 01:14
If Bubbles uploads into a hunky male firefighter-bot, would things go more smoothly?
Gawds no!  Poor Hanners would blow enough fuses to take down the power grid.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 May 2018, 01:21
These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

TBH, I use the WCDTs a lot less since I started contributing to Jeph's Patreon, because the threads are always talking about a strip that's now old news, until Friday.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 01:34
Can't wait for tomorrow.

I'm a bit hungry. Think I'll snack on some cereal.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: efindumb on 16 May 2018, 01:38
These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.

It explains the snippy attitudes about people speculating for fun and trying to consider the possibles instead of instantly agreeing with what others knew was coming...It also takes the fun out of discussing the strip especially for those of us who refuse to give Jeph money.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 04:34
As IICIH explained, people who know what's coming don't talk about it. The snippy attitudes are for different reasons entirely.  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Annemoon on 16 May 2018, 05:08
Excellent use of background color, or the lack of it, to indicate how everything else in the world receded for a minute when Bubbles and Faye reunited. I'm glad it returned because I was starting to wonder if they were in the afterlife. :-)

And the subtle pink color/fuzziness that looks like we are literately looking through pink colored classes at this scene.
Would that hint to the way Bubbles and Faye are regarding each other, or the way Tai is looking at them as a ship..
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 16 May 2018, 07:08
Welcome, sort of new person!

Thanks! It's great to be here INTERACTING with you beautiful people!

Hello everyone! I'm Jordan. Sorry to rush past introductions but I've been waiting around for the last two weeks for the right moment to hop in here and gush about my feelings to all of you strangers.

Welcome! I guess this has been an eventful enough week to stir up new activity and memberships on this forum! Thanks for sharing your story :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 07:18
Welcome, AlliedToasters!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Grumpy Old Man on 16 May 2018, 07:24
As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 07:36
Welcome, new person!

You're insightful.

There's a Greek myth where a couple was hospitable to some travelers, so much so that the travelers revealed that they were gods, and thankful to the couple, and would grant them a couple of wishes of the it-will-turn-out-well type. They asked to build a temple to those gods, and for neither to outlive the other. They led a long and loving life, and at the end of it two trees emerged from their graves and intertwined their branches over the temple.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 16 May 2018, 08:13
As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.

Welcome, new person!

You're insightful.

There's a Greek myth where a couple was hospitable to some travelers, so much so that the travelers revealed that they were gods, and thankful to the couple, and would grant them a couple of wishes of the it-will-turn-out-well type. They asked to build a temple to those gods, and for neither to outlive the other. They led a long and loving life, and at the end of it two trees emerged from their graves and intertwined their branches over the temple.

This just got super existential. I would just point out that, mortal or immortal, we don't generally let the possible endings for a relationship influence its beginnings. We mortals go into relationships knowing full well that they will end, and somebody almost always outlives another in the optimistic case that the relationship lasts that long. So, it's really not important. Carpe diem. If they can be happy today, let no unrealized possibilities stop them.

With that I would like to share this charming Faye/Bubbles moment from their early relationship:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3119

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 09:08

This just got super existential. I would just point out that, mortal or immortal, we don't generally let the possible endings for a relationship influence its beginnings. We mortals go into relationships knowing full well that they will end, and somebody almost always outlives another in the optimistic case that the relationship lasts that long. So, it's really not important. Carpe diem. If they can be happy today, let no unrealized possibilities stop them.

With that I would like to share this charming Faye/Bubbles moment from their early relationship:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3119

Pretty much my thoughts on the subject. There are many reasons why a relationship may not be eternal, and comfort is hard to come by. Stupid to reject it while it's on offer.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 10:06
These last several days have been a difficult time to see the strip a day ahead and not talk about it.

Which is a lousy kvetch because it just means the strip has been suspenseful.

It explains the snippy attitudes about people speculating for fun and trying to consider the possibles instead of instantly agreeing with what others knew was coming...It also takes the fun out of discussing the strip especially for those of us who refuse to give Jeph money.
Discussing the strip is still fun, because we don't talk about Patreon strips ahead of time. I know - I got rightfully berated for doing it once, and it wasn't even a high-suspense story like this one. But I went and looked at lots of cat gifs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2286), and I felt better. If I had talked about this story a day ahead, I'd probably be hunted down and lynched. So I just discuss it as if I had not seen the next day's strip yet (and in many cases, I haven't).


TBH, I use the WCDTs a lot less since I started contributing to Jeph's Patreon, because the threads are always talking about a strip that's now old news, until Friday.
I still use the WCDTs more, because here it's more of an ongoing discussion (yeah, I know that's redundant, since that's what the 'D' is for), whereas the Patreon comments are more just reactions to that single strip. Here, there are a lot of people who don't see the Patreon strips, so for them, it's not old news.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: nightshade on 16 May 2018, 10:19
We've been trolled off and on this whole week in the strips .....I mean on Monday or Tuesday he made it look like bubbles had no clue othan she thought she hurt Faye how with the last strip meant for us letting us know it still may or may not happen........and since jephs on vacation we'll get yelling bird for a while......
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Welu on 16 May 2018, 10:33
Yelling Bird has been retired for a while. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3016)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 10:46
We've been trolled off and on this whole week in the strips .....I mean on Monday or Tuesday he made it look like bubbles had no clue othan she thought she hurt Faye how with the last strip meant for us letting us know it still may or may not happen........and since jephs on vacation we'll get yelling bird for a while......
My vote is for Melon. But then, my vote is always for Melon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 11:47
Not had a guest strip in a while, either...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: blt on 16 May 2018, 12:00
I thought the top right panel (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3743) looked familiar... (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3520)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 12:05
Eh, I suppose it's no surprise that Google Glass can provide a shipping forecast...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 May 2018, 13:55
As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.

We absolutely do not know this. Self aware AIs in this universe are a relatively new phenomenon. Momo I think is what, 3 or 4 years old? 'Old' AIs are less than 20, for sure. So it's impossible to know yet what the normal lifespan of an AI would be. It's certainly possible for an AI to switch bodies when their old ones become damaged, but we don't know about their mind and core programming. The part of them that makes them what they are. Their AI cores are removable and can be placed in a new body, but what happens if that core itself is damaged? Will continual use cause the personality core to wear out? Computer hard drives eventually fail. Would that happening to the core be like Alzheimer's for AIs? As it becomes difficult to make the same connections when memory sectors become to damaged to be read? Could an AI be transferred to another core, or is part of their personality determined by the specific physical architecture of the core they inhabit? Can an AI be copied? It's the transporter question, is the copy the actual person, or is it a clone? Did you just murder someone to make a new copy? What if you made a copy but didn't destroy the original?

There are so many questions about AIs that we simply don't know and in the contexts of the story don't actually matter. An AI in this universe is a person. Not a human, but a person all the same. They could have a very long lifetime, or it could be very short compared to humans. Or comparable. We don't know. They don't know in universe yet because it's not been long enough yet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: NyxDarkness on 16 May 2018, 15:11
I rarely post here, but would just like to say... I've been shipping them for two years, and it's finally becoming a reality! I even kinda got chewed out for shipping, but I was right!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 16 May 2018, 15:58
Well, then.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 16 May 2018, 16:03
Goddamnit, my cardiologist says I'm not supposed to have this many feels.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 16:06
COMIC!!!!!!!!!

It's all I ever wanted.  :-)

Here is a video representation of the forum over the next few hours:

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: maxRNG on 16 May 2018, 16:09
Okay so much like Dale and Marigold's first kiss, we all knew this was coming eventually, but the real thing just felt abrupt. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it happened, but it almost feels unrealistic. I don't doubt that both of them wanted it to happen asap, but I'm not convinced that Bubbles is convinced Faye likes her back. To be fair, we don't know how much of Bubbles' monologue (#3742) Faye heard, but under the assumption she heard nothing and made herself known immediately (which is what I got on my first readthrough), this is a bit too spontaneous to be in character. That being said, if Faye heard Bubs' confession and Bubs knows that Faye heard her confession (which may very well be the case), this would make a lot more sense.

Still glad it happened, for the record.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 16:12
Okay so much like Dale and Marigold's first kiss, we all knew this was coming eventually, but the real thing just felt abrupt. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it happened, but it almost feels unrealistic. I don't doubt that both of them wanted it to happen asap, but I'm not convinced that Bubbles is convinced Faye likes her back. To be fair, we don't know how much of Bubbles' monologue (#3742) Faye heard, but under the assumption she heard nothing and made herself known immediately (which is what I got on my first readthrough), this is a bit too spontaneous to be in character. That being said, if Faye heard Bubs' confession and Bubs knows that Faye heard her confession (which may very well be the case), this would make a lot more sense.

Still glad it happened, for the record.

Shhh Shhh Shhh Shhhhhhh...

There's a glow.

Glowing is occuring.

Bask in it.

(P.S. I respect your opinion and think it's valid, even if I do not share it.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BillGuy on 16 May 2018, 16:15
...strip 2085 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085) brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)'...
FWIW, I read that title as AI Civil Rights: An Ongoing Debate. I could be wrong, of course, since it is rather impossible to actually make out most of the letters, but it does make sense when you consider the opening paragraph of the full text on Jeph's tumblr post is
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The subject of this debate is whether AIs are “people-” whether they possess the same degree of personhood as humans, and whether that entitles them to the same rights.
Yeah, after closer look at panel 5 and reading that Tumblr post I'm inclined to agree!

After doing that post I suddenly desire to create a way to read QC but with only AI's featured as to parse out the AI storyline apart from the the rest of the cast.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 16:17
It felt pretty spot on to me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: TheCollector on 16 May 2018, 16:24
To anyone who feels this is too sudden, this is like a years worth of buried and unrecognized feelings all exploding out at once, the suddenness makes sense.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mordhaus on 16 May 2018, 16:26
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 16 May 2018, 16:36
So now's the time to post reaction videos, right?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: stixanstones on 16 May 2018, 16:37
Nope, I don't believe it.  Someone is daydreaming ever since the "THERE you are!" scene.  It's too easy!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: maxRNG on 16 May 2018, 16:54
Okay so much like Dale and Marigold's first kiss, we all knew this was coming eventually, but the real thing just felt abrupt. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it happened, but it almost feels unrealistic. I don't doubt that both of them wanted it to happen asap, but I'm not convinced that Bubbles is convinced Faye likes her back. To be fair, we don't know how much of Bubbles' monologue (#3742) Faye heard, but under the assumption she heard nothing and made herself known immediately (which is what I got on my first readthrough), this is a bit too spontaneous to be in character. That being said, if Faye heard Bubs' confession and Bubs knows that Faye heard her confession (which may very well be the case), this would make a lot more sense.

Still glad it happened, for the record.

Shhh Shhh Shhh Shhhhhhh...

There's a glow.

Glowing is occuring.

Bask in it.

(P.S. I respect your opinion and think it's valid, even if I do not share it.)

Ok fine, I'm totally happy enjoying the moment I just needed to get that off of my chest first. Also, can we get that P.S. attached to the Internet as a whole? That could solve a lot of problems...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 16 May 2018, 16:54
Nope, I don't believe it.  Someone is daydreaming ever since the "THERE you are!" scene.  It's too easy!

Their dialogues are too consistent with how they're both feeling. If there's a daydream, it would only be the last panel.

OOH! Maybe this last panel is Bubbles' fantasy. The first panel for Friday's comic will reveal the fantasy, the next will reveal Faye is having the same fantasy. The rest of the page will be them studiously avoiding saying what they're thinking, ending with them in the same holding pattern as before.

There will be a caption under the comic that says "see you monday!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Welu on 16 May 2018, 16:56
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/7a8aa4efeeb8faf7d81981a231c3d300/tenor.gif)

(https://m.popkey.co/c41ec7/dWEyA.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ToodleLew on 16 May 2018, 17:01
Awwwwwwwww   :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 16 May 2018, 17:10

Well....
That escalated quickly!  :)  I expected hugs!
Now.. the only concern is that weird lighting effect which started with Bubbles in CoD...

But surely Jeph wouldn't be trolling us with a "dream sequence"...?

(I do kinda agree with some above though,  that it seems a little rushed re: the way the dialogue plays out.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 16 May 2018, 17:26
Uh-oh. Both Marten and Faye are now in relationships at the same time. The QC Exclusion Principle has been violated. We are in uncharted territory.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: maxRNG on 16 May 2018, 17:32
Uh-oh. Both Marten and Faye are now in relationships at the same time. The QC Exclusion Principle has been violated. We are in uncharted territory.

Not quite uncharted...Marty x Claire was a thing before Faye and Angus broke up. That being said, that situation ended really damn quickly, so let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 16 May 2018, 17:45
I maintain that there will be enough interesting about an AI/human relationship (between two well-developed characters, no less) that Jeph could tell a good story without them having to break up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 16 May 2018, 17:47
Yay! Fables is here! :D

I really love the direction the dialog moves, but I have to agree the kiss feels a little fast. This could be remedied by adding a panel before the final one where they look into one another's faces before they smooch. Of course, they have been building this up for 2 years so maybe spontaneity is appropriate?

I'm more curious where things go from here. These two have such an interesting chemistry.

I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people. Of course, if she stays as is, that could be amazing, too. Whatever direction this moves, I could see it leading to (further) interesting symbolism and commentary on society and human nature as sometimes touched upon in SciFi romance stories (O'Human Star comes to mind—another fine webcomic).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 May 2018, 17:50
YAAAAAAAYYYY!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: wlewisiii on 16 May 2018, 18:31
Good. That's all I need to say.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: wlewisiii on 16 May 2018, 18:37

I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people. Of course, if she stays as is, that could be amazing, too. Whatever direction this moves, I could see it leading to (further) interesting symbolism and commentary on society and human nature as sometimes touched upon in SciFi romance stories (O'Human Star comes to mind—another fine webcomic).

Hmm. Or perhaps more like "San Junipero" from Black Mirror? I'd find it plausible in the world of QC.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 16 May 2018, 18:43
COMIC!!!!!!!!!

It's all I ever wanted.  :-)

Here is a video representation of the forum over the next few hours:


I've seen that performance  before, and it always brings me back to primary school, more than twenty years ago, when my music teacher used to play it (Beethoven's 9th) on the piano, and we sang a Bulgarian translation (quite good, by the way) of the relevant parts of Schiller's Ode to Joy. I still know it by heart. I think in that clip they might be singing the new improvised Latin lyrics, but it's a bit too loud to discern.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 16 May 2018, 18:46
I maintain that there will be enough interesting about an AI/human relationship (between two well-developed characters, no less) that Jeph could tell a good story without them having to break up.

I don't understand the persistence of the idea that a healthy couple cannot be the center of good stories without some gimmick involved or the threat of breakup stress/drama.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 18:51
...strip 2085 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085) brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)'...
FWIW, I read that title as AI Civil Rights: An Ongoing Debate. I could be wrong, of course, since it is rather impossible to actually make out most of the letters, but it does make sense when you consider the opening paragraph of the full text on Jeph's tumblr post is
Quote
The subject of this debate is whether AIs are “people-” whether they possess the same degree of personhood as humans, and whether that entitles them to the same rights.
Yeah, after closer look at panel 5 and reading that Tumblr post I'm inclined to agree!

After doing that post I suddenly desire to create a way to read QC but with only AI's featured as to parse out the AI storyline apart from the the rest of the cast.
It would be impossible to parse the AI story separate from the humans. Their stories are so deeply intertwined that you could not separate them without dramatically changing the story. The most you could do would be a POV kind of monologue, such as Momo (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2952) and May (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2960) did earlier. But even that must necessarily include the humans, because the humans and AIs are so much a part of each other's lives.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 16 May 2018, 19:05
We've been informed that robot skin feels remarkably life-like...
So - what do robot lips taste like?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 19:06
I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people.
Frankly, I don't see that happening. Bubbles and Faye have discovered their feelings for each other with Bubbles in her current body. I feel that it would be counterproductive - possibly even disastrous - for her to try to change that now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 19:07
We've been informed that robot skin feels remarkably life-like...
So - what do robot lips taste like?  ;D
Tastes like chicken.  ;D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 16 May 2018, 19:10
I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people.
Frankly, I don't see that happening. Bubbles and Faye have discovered their feelings for each other with Bubbles in her current body. I feel that it would be counterproductive - possibly even disastrous - for her to try to change that now.

Maybe it could be the other way around.  Maybe Faye would experiment with a human to robot mind transfer. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: badbum61 on 16 May 2018, 19:16
500 PAGES BY MIDDAY!!!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 16 May 2018, 19:18
As much as I like seeing the two of them together, long term it's going to suck for Bubs.  Much like the lore about vampires the relationships between AI's and humans will have sad endings.  While the AIs are basically immortal just having to change hardware when it wears out they will have to watch all the humans they care about die of old age.

We absolutely do not know this. Self aware AIs in this universe are a relatively new phenomenon. Momo I think is what, 3 or 4 years old? 'Old' AIs are less than 20, for sure. So it's impossible to know yet what the normal lifespan of an AI would be. It's certainly possible for an AI to switch bodies when their old ones become damaged, but we don't know about their mind and core programming. The part of them that makes them what they are. Their AI cores are removable and can be placed in a new body, but what happens if that core itself is damaged? Will continual use cause the personality core to wear out? Computer hard drives eventually fail. Would that happening to the core be like Alzheimer's for AIs? As it becomes difficult to make the same connections when memory sectors become to damaged to be read? Could an AI be transferred to another core, or is part of their personality determined by the specific physical architecture of the core they inhabit? Can an AI be copied? It's the transporter question, is the copy the actual person, or is it a clone? Did you just murder someone to make a new copy? What if you made a copy but didn't destroy the original?

There are so many questions about AIs that we simply don't know and in the contexts of the story don't actually matter. An AI in this universe is a person. Not a human, but a person all the same. They could have a very long lifetime, or it could be very short compared to humans. Or comparable. We don't know. They don't know in universe yet because it's not been long enough yet.

This. Technology becomes obsolete quicker than a person reaches old age. I would argue that the AI becomes outdated and eventually "dies"

until they improve the technology
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Hypersapien on 16 May 2018, 19:19
Firstly, SQUEEEEEE!

Secondly, huh. That was oddly bereft of complications.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 16 May 2018, 19:29
Sudden? Sure. Unrealistic? Maybe. Am I a sucker for these types of kisses in stories because I am a sappy twelve year old girl at heart? Absolutely. This is cute as hell.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 16 May 2018, 19:35
As long as this is delaying a proper conversation, not replacing it, then woooooooooo!

If it's replacing a proper conversation, though... I'm not gonna be happy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 19:46
What would you like to see them discuss?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 20:02
Sudden? Sure. Unrealistic? Maybe. Am I a sucker for these types of kisses in stories because I am a sappy twelve year old girl at heart? Absolutely. This is cute as hell.
Sudden? No. Why do people think it's sudden? It has been nearly three years (34 months, our time) since Faye first met Bubbles, and 10 months since Bubbles gave her augury "I would rather you not make light of the affection I feel for you-". They have been slowly building to this moment ever since.

Unrealistic? No. Even if we can't conceive this happening in our own universe, Jeph has done a remarkable job of making it seem very realistic.

Am I also a sucker for sappy love stories? Oh, yeah!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ChipNoir on 16 May 2018, 20:08
Oh my god after YEARS! Yessssssss!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ChipNoir on 16 May 2018, 20:15

Well....
That escalated quickly!  :)  I expected hugs!
Now.. the only concern is that weird lighting effect which started with Bubbles in CoD...

But surely Jeph wouldn't be trolling us with a "dream sequence"...?

(I do kinda agree with some above though,  that it seems a little rushed re: the way the dialogue plays out.

I think the only thing missing is that 15.3 seconds of staring before suddenly KISS, and it'd have sold to everyone. I think that was the intention, but maybe Jeph didn't want one more panel?

OH WHO CARES!? THE SHIP HAS ARRIVED! TAKE ME AWAY!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 May 2018, 20:19
Dammit, where are my hundreds more strips of muleheadedness?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 16 May 2018, 20:21
Well, then.

Nice understatement there, physics guy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: greyhairedkid on 16 May 2018, 20:26
... It has been nearly three years (34 months, our time) since Faye first met Bubbles, and 10 months since Bubbles gave her augury "I would rather you not make light of the affection I feel for you-". They have been slowly building to this moment ever since.
...

Found the augury in #3523. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3523)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 20:34
Go for it, you crazy fucked-up kids!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 20:37

This. Technology becomes obsolete quicker than a person reaches old age. I would argue that the AI becomes outdated and eventually "dies"

until they improve the technology

Which raises another interesting question. Are updates a civil right?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bollthorn on 16 May 2018, 20:42
YAAAAS!! FINALLY!!

D'awww...

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 16 May 2018, 20:46

This. Technology becomes obsolete quicker than a person reaches old age. I would argue that the AI becomes outdated and eventually "dies"

until they improve the technology

Which raises another interesting question. Are updates a civil right?

Depends if they come front loaded with "Improved features for system users."

Goddammit Microsoft...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 16 May 2018, 20:49
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 20:49
Would forced updates and planned obsolescence be crimes?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 May 2018, 20:55
Try not to crack the hull as you all christine this ship.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Oblixio on 16 May 2018, 21:02
I swear, Jeph, if you pull Angus out of the ether....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 21:12
So conflicted...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 21:23
"Your place or mine?"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 16 May 2018, 21:29
What would you like to see them discuss?

I'd like to hear Faye say something unambiguous about "I have feelings for you" so that Bubbles can't convince herself/be convinced by a (well-meant) comment that Faye is acting oddly that Faye's just along for the ride instead of being invested in the relationship.  "I would never ask you to [leave]" is a great sentiment, and as a declaration leading up to the kiss, I absolutely love it, but it would be nice to have something more affirmative on Faye's part than that before this gets too much further.

It doesn't have to happen on-screen, but I would very much hope they'd have a discussion about how this is going to affect their working relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Wagimawr on 16 May 2018, 21:31
Found the augury in #3523. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3523)

That sent me on a quick binge that reminded me how delightful Momo and May are (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3531) :D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zelia on 16 May 2018, 21:38
When I saw the last panel of this comic, I made an involuntary screeching, yelping sound. My partner assumed I had just experienced a back spasm, and came running to help. I had to explain that I wasn't in horrible pain, it was just that the Big Robot Lady and the Shouty Butch Southern Girl in my favorite Web Soap Opera finally smooched after years of waiting. She rolled her eyes. She doesn't understand my soaps.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Spider on 16 May 2018, 21:38
I. COULD NOT BE HAPPIER.

TOO HAPPY TO FIND A FUNNY VIDEO OF SOMEONE SHOUTING YES


if it matters i don't consider this sudden or unrealistic at all. (lucky bastards already had a head start on u-hauling)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 22:01
For their sake I'd like them to have a discussion in the "So what are we now?" category.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: poofdepoof on 16 May 2018, 22:07
Yeah, I definitely agree with the posters who felt like this kiss was a little quick. Just one more panel of space would have helped, I think. This comic has improved in nearly every other aspect since then, but I still think that Marten & Dora's first kiss was much better in terms of pacing and realisticness. I don't have much to say about the speediness of Marigold & Dale, but I honestly have just felt so much more invested in the slow, slow burn of Faye & Bubble's developing friendship and relationship that I would have liked that little space. Not a whole comic, just a panel or two. I guess I can just pretend it happened between the frames ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 22:10
"Your place or mine?"
Quite possibly the silliest question either of them could utter right now. Great for easing tension!


Dammit, where are my hundreds more strips of muleheadedness?
Don't worry, I'm sure there will still be plenty of muleheadedness to go around. After all, there's still the Elliot/Brun/Clinton trio who have no idea what they're doing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: St.Clair on 16 May 2018, 22:17
I maintain that there will be enough interesting about an AI/human relationship (between two well-developed characters, no less) that Jeph could tell a good story without them having to break up.

I don't understand the persistence of the idea that a healthy couple cannot be the center of good stories without some gimmick involved or the threat of breakup stress/drama.

Lazy and/or bad writers who aren't up to creating the first without resorting to the second.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: theMarc on 16 May 2018, 22:37
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: hakko504 on 16 May 2018, 22:47
We've been informed that robot skin feels remarkably life-like...
So - what do robot lips taste like?  :-D
My first thoughts were:
Does Bubbles have a tounge?
Is it wet?
WHY would she have a wet tounge?
Doesn't AI just have a speaker hidden inside the cavity so it sounds human-ish?
Will Melon come in and break up their little tete-a-tete tomorrow with some wacky request?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 16 May 2018, 23:06
1. Woohoo!!!! Finally!!! :-D :-D :-D

2. So glad that their comments yesterday about "shall we get back? Lots of work to do, etc" were merely an excuse to go somewhere that they would be able to talk privately (rather than avoiding the situation). Re-reading yesterday's comic in light of today's, it's more clear to me that Faye was ready to blurt everything out right then and there if Bubbles hadn't suggested going back to the shop.

3. Oh Faye... wiping away a tear as you're talking about how you were scared that Bubbles had left. Looks like the time spent running around town looking for Bubbles really brought home your feelings, even more so than Marten asking "What do you want to do?" I am glad because I didn't like Faye's original plan to just play it cool and give herself some time to think - I don't think that would have been very fair to Bubbles.

4. Personally I don't feel it was too rushed here. However I would like to see them talk more at some point soon, but it doesn't have to be straight away. 1 - because they are business partners as well as friends, but also 2 - because an AI/human relationship is new territory for both of them. I really don't expect that us readers will see any more of their talks than the level of detail we saw when Marten and Claire talked about their relationship (and I'm totally cool with that) but for them to not talk about it all would be rather unrealistic to me. I'm cool with it being an offscreen conversation so long as it happens.

And in conclusion: Woohoo!!!  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 16 May 2018, 23:14
...
3. Oh Faye... wiping away a tear as you're talking about how you were scared that Bubbles had left. Looks like the time spent running around town looking for Bubbles really brought home your feelings, even more so than Marten asking "What do you want to do?" I am glad because I didn't like Faye's original plan to just play it cool and give herself some time to think - I don't think that would have been very fair to Bubbles.
...
And in conclusion: Woohoo!!!  :-D :-D :-D

Yes! Marten asking "What do you want to do?" brought home the idea that a relationship with Bubbles is something she can have. Bubbles leaving the shop brought home the idea that a relationship with Bubbles is something she can lose. It is that second realization, I think, that made Faye want to take action to make the relationship happen.

And also: Woohoo! indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 16 May 2018, 23:39
I've been thinking about this and I realised that this isn't sudden. In universe, I think that Faye and Bubbles have been working together for about a year and have been friends for more than half of that time. It's been time enough for them to grow very close to each other. Really, the fear they both felt at the thought of losing the other and the promise they make in today's strip never to leave was just acknowledging and overcoming their mutual last and greatest fear about accepting and acting on their mutual attraction.

So, what now? Well, I'm expecting (once they come out of their bedroom about 12 hours later) that they'll both re-activate their angst and start asking "So, what happens next?" in a way that reminds us that they both have issues with self-esteem and insecurity. That said, if they're smart, they'll certainly involve their friends in successful relationships in answering that question.

What next for Faye and Bubbles in the strip though? Well, there are ways you can use this arc both comedically and dramatically:
I'm really looking forward to them emerging from the bedroom, blinking and rumpled to see the 'Happy Arbour Day' banner draped across the room and Marten, Claire and Pintsize all wearing party hats.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 16 May 2018, 23:48
What would you like to see them discuss?

I'd like to hear Faye say something unambiguous about "I have feelings for you" so that Bubbles can't convince herself/be convinced by a (well-meant) comment that Faye is acting oddly that Faye's just along for the ride instead of being invested in the relationship.  "I would never ask you to [leave]" is a great sentiment, and as a declaration leading up to the kiss, I absolutely love it, but it would be nice to have something more affirmative on Faye's part than that before this gets too much further.

I personally felt that Faye's statement, "I thought I made you uncomfortable," said everything that needed to be said.

That, along with the fear both of them had just been through of losing the other, I think would have propelled them into each others arms. So, as I already said, it all made perfect sense to me. What BenRG just said, essentially. I'm in the minority, I guess.

I also think there will be a lot of "off-screen" discussion. A lot of it will be essentially a recap of what we've seen and each of their feelings' during those moments, so I don't see the point of depicting it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 17 May 2018, 00:14
I do not think the kiss was rushed.

Sometimes there are things you just cannot put into words.
Sometimes there are feelings you want – no,  need – to communicate more directly!
Your body urges you, almost forces you to do it!

I can speak from personal experience, there is no other feeling like this.
It's powerful. It's awesome!

The talking (while definitely necessary) can wait…
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 17 May 2018, 00:38

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ISjGqdbPFkA/VNScLyGoedI/AAAAAAAABNQ/bkddzUHqp0c/w330-h400/dance.gif)

what a great way to start the weekend...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: gopher on 17 May 2018, 01:38

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ISjGqdbPFkA/VNScLyGoedI/AAAAAAAABNQ/bkddzUHqp0c/w330-h400/dance.gif)

what a great way to start the weekend...

Where? Only Thursday here.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 17 May 2018, 02:08
Alright, so I'm occasionally a romance author, and one thing I've always pinned down is "What do these characters offer to each other that nobody else can?" as the most important question in selling the 'ship.

Around the time Bubbles and Faye got introduced to each other, I genuinely disliked both of them. I had thought Jeph had played Faye's cards too hard when she hit rock bottom, and ultimately forgot to remind the audience that she had sympathetic character traits. I just really couldn't find myself liking her anymore, at all. Likewise, when Bubbles was introduced into the comic, I thought she was played up too aggressively as well. Didn't actually care for her strips.

They are now, obviously, currently my two favourite characters on the day-to-day, and the storyline I most look forward to seeing.

They've been really good for each other. They have obviously made each other characters that I genuinely enjoy, brought out the best in each other, and it's been obvious that their mutual character growth has been because of each other.

As other people have said, a relationship shouldn't be seen as the natural evolution of a friendship. I agree. However, as a story that leads up to it becoming a relationship, this is pretty much the absolute gold standard on how to make it good and meaningful for the characters in it. It makes it clear why these two want a relationship with each other as opposed to the standard explaining why they want a relationship, with each other.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 May 2018, 02:10
Where? Only Thursday here.

It's a long weekend...

Anyway, I hope people can get these ghastly reaction gifs out of their system soon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Sam_bedge on 17 May 2018, 03:07
Tomorrows Strip: EVERYONE eats Cereal! :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mark7 on 17 May 2018, 03:24
I feel  this might be appropriate :D

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tub on 17 May 2018, 03:28
We've been informed that robot skin feels remarkably life-like...
So - what do robot lips taste like?  :-D
It's polymer-based, so probably quite neutral. In any case, Faye works with the stuff all day, so she's unlikely to be surprised by any properties of Bubble's lips.

The real question is: what do Faye's lips taste like? Better than unicorn grove?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 17 May 2018, 03:37
I maintain that there will be enough interesting about an AI/human relationship (between two well-developed characters, no less) that Jeph could tell a good story without them having to break up.

The breakup speculation isn't about Faye and Bubbles breaking up, it's about Marten and Claire breaking up, due to a supposed law of conservation of relationships that affects Marten and Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 17 May 2018, 04:29

This. Technology becomes obsolete quicker than a person reaches old age. I would argue that the AI becomes outdated and eventually "dies"

until they improve the technology

Which raises another interesting question. Are updates a civil right?

Well, we already know that basic maintenance wouldn't be covered after what May went through with her arm falling off and having to have her face replaced at an illegal underground robot fight club because she couldn't afford it.  http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3169 so not exactly sure if the updates would be any better.  But that's all just speculation on my part.

Also with regards to todays strip
(https://i.imgur.com/I8zW0Ly.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 17 May 2018, 04:37
What would you like to see them discuss?

I'd like to hear Faye say something unambiguous about "I have feelings for you" so that Bubbles can't convince herself/be convinced by a (well-meant) comment that Faye is acting oddly that Faye's just along for the ride instead of being invested in the relationship.  "I would never ask you to [leave]" is a great sentiment, and as a declaration leading up to the kiss, I absolutely love it, but it would be nice to have something more affirmative on Faye's part than that before this gets too much further.

It doesn't have to happen on-screen, but I would very much hope they'd have a discussion about how this is going to affect their working relationship.

I'm sure that discussion will come. Though I would argue that the kiss is an unambiguous "I love you"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: swapna on 17 May 2018, 04:44
When I saw the last panel of this comic, I made an involuntary screeching, yelping sound. My partner assumed I had just experienced a back spasm, and came running to help. I had to explain that I wasn't in horrible pain, it was just that the Big Robot Lady and the Shouty Butch Southern Girl in my favorite Web Soap Opera finally smooched after years of waiting. She rolled her eyes. She doesn't understand my soaps.

They never understand our soaps, and I love 'Shouty Butch Southern Girl' and 'Big Robot Lady'.
It finally happened! I'm so happy I'm trying to ignore the angles (like, I know it isn't easy, but people tilt their heads while kissing that way, at least a little bit.Both Faye's and Bubble's jaw is entirely straight and I can't stop imagining the awkward way they must smooch their heads together.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Vurogj on 17 May 2018, 05:08
I think I shall commemorate this development with a nice cup of Assam tea. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3556)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 May 2018, 05:22
I had not realised Bubbles had been around for multiple years in real time. I still think of her as a new character.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Deadlywonky on 17 May 2018, 05:24
Loving this arc, has it ever been addressed why Bubbles has leg seams but not arm seams? is it realated to her comment of "do you want to see what i can do with my hips?" from 3725?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 May 2018, 05:34
I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people.
Frankly, I don't see that happening. Bubbles and Faye have discovered their feelings for each other with Bubbles in her current body. I feel that it would be counterproductive - possibly even disastrous - for her to try to change that now.

How so? It would take courage on her part to be come all the more "vulnerable"—which seems to be a theme going on (especially with Faye)? An interesting thought... Wouldn't it be odd if she turned out actually to be a small person in a giant robot suit?


I kind of feel like it could become a Pinocchio-type story where Bubbles works on becoming more human—not just emotionally—but her body as well with another appearance of Creepy Bot enabling her into a new body that is indistinguishable from organic people.
Frankly, I don't see that happening. Bubbles and Faye have discovered their feelings for each other with Bubbles in her current body. I feel that it would be counterproductive - possibly even disastrous - for her to try to change that now.

Maybe it could be the other way around.  Maybe Faye would experiment with a human to robot mind transfer.

If Faye was ill, it could totally happen. I am not sure why she'd be interested in it to begin with, though. It would be an interesting and unexpected direction if it happened, however. Of course, pretty much *any* direction is for this story—even though it's been building to this point for a couple years now. Even just making them having a boring settled (but happy) relationship would be a surprise.

I wonder if it will last? There's been so much build up and investment that it seems like they are meant for each other forever, but then again? Lots of relationships can be like that and turn out not to work when they actually happen. Definitely grabbing the extra large popcorn for this!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 May 2018, 05:38
Ahem.

eeeeeeeee
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 17 May 2018, 05:44
Loving this arc, has it ever been addressed why Bubbles has leg seams but not arm seams? is it realated to her comment of "do you want to see what i can do with my hips?" from 3725?

My head-canon has always been that her unitard has some kind of elastic there to hold it tight at those joints for some reason.

I wonder if it will last? There's been so much build up and investment that it seems like they are meant for each other forever, but then again? Lots of relationships can be like that and turn out not to work when they actually happen. Definitely grabbing the extra large popcorn for this!

It depends if the relationship deepens beyond passion. There are already signs of a strong bond between the two that will see them through a lot but there are a lot of slings and arrows that Jeph could throw at them and I can see them both having to wrestle with their temper and sense of inadequacy on more than one occasion and thus upsetting the other.

Naturally, if that happens, Marten will end up playing referee - something that seem to be at least partly his current role in the strip. :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 May 2018, 05:45
oh i guess i'll weigh in on the suddenness thing that always comes up some with this

it always comes up

it

always

comes

up

every

time

every

relationship

in

this

story

happens

and

i

don't

get

why




not too bad *yet* this time in this thread but between pattern recognition and how bloody long these arcs go before they reach this point i have serious questions sometimes about whether we perceive reality differently or something
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 May 2018, 05:49
like i dunno have you considered that maybe you're misunderstanding your feelings, mistakenly attributing it to 'suddenness' when it's something else? Seriously. No (well, little) judgment here. We all misunderstand our feelings sometimes.

just since it happens every time, and i'm fairly certain it's not a technical fault in Jeph's craftsmanship (he's been doing it for almost two decades he's decent at it), I'm of the suspicion that it would feel 'sudden' no matter how long it took.

I don't accuse any of you of lying about your feelings. Just of failing to understand them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: wlewisiii on 17 May 2018, 06:16
I don't get how people can call this rushed. It's like calling this one rushed: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2890

The relationship has been building for a long time; they both are trying to finally accept it. They should talk a bit later but right now? Lock the door and ignore the world for a bit. If I were writing the strip, I'd probably have them cuddling in bed talking about it in some kind of afterglow for Friday. What Jeph will do remains to be seen (and I had to cut out Patreon because of budget reasons  :cry: )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 17 May 2018, 06:51
I fully expect a semi-circle of observers (led by Tai) applauding. 





I know I am. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 06:53
But why can’t they be JUST FRIENDS?

lol.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 May 2018, 06:56
i know you're joking, but to get out ahead of some of the posts that might come down the line too

A) Faye & Marten, Marten & Pintsize, Pintsize & Winston, Hannelore & Sven, Dora & Faye, Roko & O'Malley, Marten & Steve, May & Momo, etc. etc.etc. etc.etc.etc.

B) why can't they also be loves
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 17 May 2018, 07:06
Because sometimes, it doesn't work that way. 



And sometimes, it does! 






We'll see.  Whichever way it goes, it's going to be a bumpy ride! 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bollthorn on 17 May 2018, 07:07
I keep coming back to today's issue because it just makes me feel so good, warm, and fuzzy inside ^_^ I'm so happy this finally happened :3
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 17 May 2018, 07:14
What would you like to see them discuss?

Where do we go from here?

How do robots DO that, anyway? ;)

Faye addressing if she's bi, or now a robosexual....

How do HUMANS and Robots 'do it?'

And so on....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 17 May 2018, 07:27
Jeph, if this is just a Bubbles’s tea scent induced fantasy, I’ll...I’ll.......I’ll probably need a new computer monitor because I’d likely smash it.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 17 May 2018, 08:05
Why say it in words when we have youtube clips  :grumpypuss:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 17 May 2018, 08:19
But why can’t they be JUST FRIENDS?

lol.

You changed your avatar.

It's good.

:-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fenrec on 17 May 2018, 08:26
>shrug<  Bubbles and Faye are probably my favorite characters.

Sorry....but I'm disappointed.  This build up and climax just feels like jumping the shark.  Shipped fan service rather than a storyline.  sigh.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 May 2018, 08:45
What do you think "jumping the shark" means, then?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 17 May 2018, 09:06
Why say it in words when we have youtube clips  :grumpypuss:

You used Kosh, but not "And so it begins"?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: oeoek on 17 May 2018, 10:38
What would you like to see them discuss?

Where do we go from here?

How do robots DO that, anyway? ;)

Faye addressing if she's bi, or now a robosexual....

How do HUMANS and Robots 'do it?'

And so on....

Not sure what it means, but I DO remember something about burned out USB cables (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3500) that seemed to mean something to Bubbles...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 17 May 2018, 12:25
>shrug<  Bubbles and Faye are probably my favorite characters.

Sorry....but I'm disappointed.  This build up and climax just feels like jumping the shark.  Shipped fan service rather than a storyline.  sigh.

Nah.  Jumping the shark is when lady bits get discussed in some detail.

I done been waiting for this, and I'm happy with the results.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: square--one on 17 May 2018, 14:42
So I was reading through old comics and I had to make a forum account just so I could post this specific strip...http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 14:52
Welcome!

I'm afraid at least four other posters have beaten you to that observation, though.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 17 May 2018, 15:08
So I was reading through old comics and I had to make a forum account just so I could post this specific strip...http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262)

To be fair, you are the first to post it after he has been proven amazingly and unequivocally right.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Y on 17 May 2018, 15:41
I wonder if it was this comic was scheduled for 'International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia', which was today.  I'm also not sure if in the QC universe robophobia would be an issue.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MilesDryden on 17 May 2018, 15:46
Jeph is trolling us.  Bubbles is going to wake up in her chair tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: square--one on 17 May 2018, 16:22
Welcome!

I'm afraid at least four other posters have beaten you to that observation, though.

Ah, heck.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 May 2018, 16:41
I wonder if it was this comic was scheduled for 'International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia', which was today.  I'm also not sure if in the QC universe robophobia would be an issue.

It is. We have seen hateful taunts, employment discrimination, a reference to the need for a long civil rights struggle, and mention of of preacher who teaches that AIs are evil.

It wasn't until the 1990s that a majority of Americans approved of interracial marriage. Interspecies couples are going to face bigotry.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 17 May 2018, 17:26
Uh, yeah.

Comic's up people.

Things are, uh... I'd say they're good.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Magniras on 17 May 2018, 17:31
The thing about slow burns is, when they ignite, the characters tend to catch on fire fast.

But, yeah, this is.  Wow.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: wlewisiii on 17 May 2018, 17:32
As Mr. Takai would put it, "Oh, My... "  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 17 May 2018, 17:37
Yes! Go home and figure it out. I'm sure Pintsize has a vast assortment of diagrams to help you along.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 17 May 2018, 17:39
Yes! Go home and figure it out. I'm sure Pintsize has a vast assortment of diagrams to help you along.

Pintsize will be ductaped to the ceiling of the corridor outside their apartment, gagged and blindfolded.

That's before they get home, of course, but I doubt they'd bother to cut him down.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Spider on 17 May 2018, 17:54
MAMA MIA THATS-A SPICY COMIC!!!!!

I hope Faye's glasses didn't break
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 17:54
Ehehehehehehehe!!!!!

Ah...sorry everyone, that's just me, laughing maniacally.

BUT WHY CAN'T THEY JUST BE FRIENDS

 :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 May 2018, 17:55
Based on that third panel, I’d say they’re well on the way to figuring things out.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 17:56
MAMA MIA THATS-A SPICY COMIC!!!!!

I hope Faye's glasses didn't break

Faye: Glasses? What are those?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 17:58
Marten is going to have to restrain Claire from jumping up and down squealing in utter delight.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 17 May 2018, 18:06
Marten is going to have to restrain Claire from jumping up and down squealing in utter delight.

Off-topic, but why do you still have a question mark at the end of your signature?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 18:07
Guys, I swear, everyone here talked about them getting caught and I thought the first panel was them realizing someone saw them. Hahaha.

Then, OMG, I thought the next panel was going to be Faye saying "omg, I have no idea what I'm doing, I can't do this..." and running away. Almost gave me a heart attack! haha.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 18:07
Marten is going to have to restrain Claire from jumping up and down squealing in utter delight.

Off-topic, but why do you still have a question mark at the end of your signature?

Oh shit! It will be fixed immediately.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: DaiJB on 17 May 2018, 18:09
They go home to "figure this out"...
Marten and Claire come home to a wrecked apartment...   :-D

Pintsize: "It wasn't me! Honest!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: TheCollector on 17 May 2018, 18:11
Neeeeeew avvvaaaataaarr! :D

Been waiting since yesterday to update to this one. :D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 18:12
Ladies, what if a CUSTOMER walks in??!!


Can you just imagine Punchbot walking in? "Hey guys, I need a ..." *jaw drop*
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 18:14
Well, it's Friday, and for a change, I don't think anyone will be in suspense.  :mrgreen:

I think fayelovesbubbles needs some anti-gloating cream. Just rub it in.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 18:15
I'm not gloating...I'm just good at predicting love, okay?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 18:16
Hahaha okay you're not gloating.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: tut21 on 17 May 2018, 18:21
Cut to police officers taping off the street around a suddenly bright pink glowing building...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 18:22
Come on. How bad can I be? You'll note I have NOT changed my avatar...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bollthorn on 17 May 2018, 18:39
Yes, they'll go home, figure it all out, and by the time they've worked out everything, they'll sleep soundly, with Faye using Bubbles' lipstick-covered butt as a pillow, and Claire and Tai both squee so loudly they shatter every window in a 10 mile radius :P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 May 2018, 18:42
Ahem.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 17 May 2018, 18:46
Title: "Consult the FAQ". FAQ is obviously Faye's Ass Quality and Bubbles is about to rigorously consult it.

Consensus: DANG.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Zelia on 17 May 2018, 18:54
I really really really hope this isn't some dreamscape or tea-induced hallucination and that Jeph is not totally trolling us with this. It's just...too much. Please let it be real.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 19:13
If this is a fantasy or dream, it’s Faye’s. Bubbles is way too polite and reserved to fantasize or dream like this!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: tut21 on 17 May 2018, 19:16
(https://i.imgur.com/KFxzF3g.png)

Wow, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fantasticalice on 17 May 2018, 19:18
Perhaps it's because I livd on Doctor who and don't see androids as different from people but my excitement is about it being too big girls falling for ech other:) I know what it's like to be tall and big like Bubbles and she has someone who also understands bein big to a level. It's really beautiful and it's the most natural relationship in the strip for me. Because I am a big gay girl. :p
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 19:18
What’s crazy is how Faye went from skinny to curvy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 17 May 2018, 19:19
(https://i.imgur.com/KFxzF3g.png)

Wow, Jeph.
Good point; whatever did happen to Faye’s spiked belt? I hope it wasn’t lost in the toaster fire…
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fantasticalice on 17 May 2018, 19:19
What’s crazy is how Faye went from skinny to curvy.

Yeah...she's more stick girl than Hanners in that clip!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 17 May 2018, 19:22
Monday's strip is Faye eating cereal.  While wearing Bubbles' armor.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Vern LaVey on 17 May 2018, 19:24
"Your place or mine?"

This actually brings up a very good point.  Bubs and Faye are already living together.  That makes any sort of relationship immediately serious.

When roommates get romantic a few courtship steps are automatically skipped... steps that can help build the foundation of the early relationship.  Sure, being roommates they already know a lot of each other's idiosyncrasies, but that's no replacement for the initial courtship phase.

Basically, once the initial dopamine surge wears off they will find themselves already thrust into a very deep situation.  They are living together, managing a business together, laboring side-by-side at said business, are good friends AND are now romantically involved.  That's a hell of a lot of pressure on every aspect of their lives while they're trying to sort through their feelings.

Not that they can't cope with it all... but it's a lot to think about. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 17 May 2018, 19:27
Let’s see how many USB cables they burn through  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 17 May 2018, 19:31
I'm starting to think they didn't have any intention of getting more work done.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 19:36
Oh, I'd say they have quite a lot of work to do.

Nothing wrong with loving your work.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 19:39
More seriously: I hope they don't now slide into the background, as Marten and Claire seem to have done.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 17 May 2018, 19:39
Working on their sex techniques. That IS work!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 17 May 2018, 19:44
I thought this whole thing was very well-written and well-drawn.  I also am curious regarding robot saliva.  Is it refillable, like windshield wiper fluid?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 17 May 2018, 19:51
More seriously: I hope they don't now slide into the background, as Marten and Claire seem to have done.

The other option, now that the vast majority of the main cast is in relationships (can we call faye/bubbles a relationship yet?), is that the strip will slide towards telling stories about the difficulties the various couples face. I've said before that I think faye and bubbles are interesting enough that they could spearhead that tone shift, though I don't think I worded it quite right.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 17 May 2018, 19:58
Working on their sex techniques. That IS work!

Now, knowing this forum, there's probably going to be some commentary about this about how it doesn't have to immediately lead to sex, that there's still important conversations to have first, that this comment is crass...

... but that third panel leg-lock-meets-butt-groping has extreme sexual tension written all over it, and Faye's pretty well-established as an extremely sexual character who Bubbles has repeatedly shown a lot of physical attraction to. I, personally, look forward to seeing Bubbles doing the robot for her booty dance (https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/a0/c1/16a0c1df25961ee51d61bf09d90b9bfd.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: keithcurtis on 17 May 2018, 20:02
"Your place or mine?"

This actually brings up a very good point.  Bubs and Faye are already living together.  That makes any sort of relationship immediately serious.

When roommates get romantic a few courtship steps are automatically skipped... steps that can help build the foundation of the early relationship.  Sure, being roommates they already know a lot of each other's idiosyncrasies, but that's no replacement for the initial courtship phase.

Basically, once the initial dopamine surge wears off they will find themselves already thrust into a very deep situation.  They are living together, managing a business together, laboring side-by-side at said business, are good friends AND are now romantically involved.  That's a hell of a lot of pressure on every aspect of their lives while they're trying to sort through their feelings.

Not that they can't cope with it all... but it's a lot to think about. :psyduck:
Thank you. That helps resolve some reticence I had over the resolution. I was feeling that it was too quick (drama- and pacing-wise) to go directly to a sexual relationship, but I was ignoring the fact that they already share a great deal of intimacy. That makes the perceived lack courtship time feel much less of a missed beat. (I think there's a triple negative in that last sentence, but hopefully it made sense.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ChipNoir on 17 May 2018, 20:10
Monday's strip is Faye eating cereal.  While wearing Bubbles' armor.

That or in the hospital in traction, and we're unsure if the blissful state she's in is afterglow or morphine. x_x

I really do hope the best for them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Uniquitous on 17 May 2018, 20:30
Can you swap spit with a robot? Is there synthetic spit to swap? What does it taste like?? 

Regardless FUCK YEAH FAYBLES!!!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 17 May 2018, 20:31
I just want to say the number of new members here in the past couple of days is very impressive.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: keithcurtis on 17 May 2018, 20:44
I just want to say the number of new members here in the past couple of days is very impressive.
Apparently, there was a lot of emotional investment in this storyline. :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 17 May 2018, 20:58
Wow!
I think some fans need a cigarette right now!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 May 2018, 21:08
If Faye is having a coma dream, I'm going to laugh.
No offense to the shippers that would cause aneurysms for. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: badbum61 on 17 May 2018, 21:17
I, personally, look forward to seeing Bubbles doing the robot for her booty dance (https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/a0/c1/16a0c1df25961ee51d61bf09d90b9bfd.jpg)

Yes, bring forth the Booty Dance Of The Automaton!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 21:24
Jeph is trolling us.  Bubbles is going to wake up in her chair tomorrow.

I really really really hope this isn't some dreamscape or tea-induced hallucination and that Jeph is not totally trolling us with this. It's just...too much. Please let it be real.

If this is a fantasy or dream, it’s Faye’s. Bubbles is way too polite and reserved to fantasize or dream like this!

If Faye is having a coma dream, I'm going to laugh.
No offense to the shippers that would cause aneurysms for. :-D

I started this storyline hoping they would stay friends, and even I find all of this a little perverse. Jeph has put some twists into his comic, but I don't think he's keen on commercial suicide.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: LilShortstuf on 17 May 2018, 21:39
The comics talking about how Pintsize called Faye going for a lady robot reminded me of another character predicting Faybles. At the party where Faye almost lost her head, May was very insistent that they would bone down. She asked for pics of Bubbles out of her armor which she's seen now. The next strip she asks for "fuck-pics." I wonder what her reaction will be when she finds out.

Pics out of armor: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3075

"Fuck-pics": http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3076
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 17 May 2018, 21:43
I wonder if May will remind her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 17 May 2018, 22:59
I'm sorry, I was on board with the Bubbles & Faye thing up until today, but I just can't suspend my disbelief any more:

Glasses can't fly, people.

Comic ruined forever, gg no re.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Spider on 17 May 2018, 23:16
I'd like to imagine that the force of Bubble's picking Faye up and Faye lunging for Bubble's lips that she smacked her head so hard against Bubble's that her glasses flew right off.

Later we'll see her with bloody nose and a massive headache.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 17 May 2018, 23:20
You know who we haven't seen in a while?

The bros
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 17 May 2018, 23:22
So, I'm thinking that when, maybe 24 hours from now, Faye and Bubbles re-emerge from their bedroom, blinking in the unexpected light, there will be banner reading 'Happy Arbour Day' hanging from the ceiling in the lounge and that Marten, Claire and Pintsize will be wearing party hats. This is going to be partly due to Marten knowing Faye well enough to know what decision she would make and partly because they've heard the highlights.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that we'll be going onto something different (possibly new) plot arc next week. However, I expect Jeph to take delight during this in occasionally showing Faye and Bubbles doing 'couple' stuff together in the background.

On various forums, people have been asking how Bubbles knows how to kiss. The answer is, of course, that she's lived around humans for a while so she's picked up the basics. However, I'm also pretty sure that she's been doing research; just in case, you understand! :wink:

One last thing: Some people on Patreon and the Subreddits are asking what kissing a robot is like. The point is that Faye isn't kissing a robot. She's kissing her girlfriend who just happens to be a robot. That has a tendency to affect the perception of the act from whatever it might objectively be to 'wonderful'. :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 17 May 2018, 23:26
Yeah this E.D.I/FemShep fanfic turned out much better than expected
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jesslc on 17 May 2018, 23:33
Panel 1 reminds me of Dora and Tai's first kiss - the one where they stand around going "Wow. Yeah. Um" etc and then we see Faye and Hanners talking and Faye says "I hope that's not how kissing usually works because otherwise I've been doing it wrong"

Edit: Found it - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2247
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: blt on 17 May 2018, 23:49
It's probably like licking a 9V battery.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 May 2018, 23:49
"Figure things out". So that's what the kids are calling it these days.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 18 May 2018, 00:27
The 'how does Bubbles know how to kiss' question is kind of ridiculous. How do humans know how to kiss? How do animals know how to fuck?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pecoros7 on 18 May 2018, 00:35
The 'how does Bubbles know how to kiss' question is kind of ridiculous. How do humans know how to kiss? How do animals know how to fuck?

How do humans know how to kiss? Ideally, the same way you get to Carnegie Hall.

Practice, practice, practice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: namelips on 18 May 2018, 00:55
While I'm DAWWWWWing all over the place...

...I do worry that we're slowly losing all sources of dramatic conflict in the story. Everybody is getting happily coupled. There are no problems or crises facing the gang.

Something needs to be introduced, some sort of complication or problem that needs solving.

The way all the loose threads are being tied up makes me worried that the comic is winding down. Everybody is getting their happy ending.

Maybe something will happen with Hannelore?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 18 May 2018, 01:00
I'm sorry, I was on board with the Bubbles & Faye thing up until today, but I just can't suspend my disbelief any more:

Glasses can't fly, people.

Comic ruined forever, gg no re.

They're falling with style.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 18 May 2018, 01:24
While I'm DAWWWWWing all over the place...

...I do worry that we're slowly losing all sources of dramatic conflict in the story. Everybody is getting happily coupled. There are no problems or crises facing the gang.

Dramatic conflict does not have to be based around UST and coupling. It can involve careers, family, health, even artistic disagreements (Dora and Marten famously disagreed on whether a band... Toto I think... were any good).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: ankhtahr on 18 May 2018, 01:30
The 'how does Bubbles know how to kiss' question is kind of ridiculous. How do humans know how to kiss? How do animals know how to fuck?

I don't really know how kisses work. My partner neither, so it's fine, but we don't really have instinctual knowledge how to do that.

Anyway, I'm feeling that soon we'll see Claire and Marten coming home to a boot on Faye's door (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2685), followed by collective squeeing, triggering Bubbles' Claire Threat Evaluation Protocol (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3564).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 May 2018, 01:48
like i dunno have you considered that maybe you're misunderstanding your feelings, mistakenly attributing it to 'suddenness' when it's something else? Seriously. No (well, little) judgment here. We all misunderstand our feelings sometimes.

just since it happens every time, and i'm fairly certain it's not a technical fault in Jeph's craftsmanship (he's been doing it for almost two decades he's decent at it), I'm of the suspicion that it would feel 'sudden' no matter how long it took.

I don't accuse any of you of lying about your feelings. Just of failing to understand them.

:) Pretty bold statement... !
But have you considered that maybe you're misunderstanding other people's feelings?

Like... personally, my feeling of *it being rushed* was for that single strip alone.
I don't think anyone could have been meaning "across the strip" this has been rushed... it's been AGES!

I think only that (as others have also said) it felt like maybe *one* additional panel would have made all the difference.

It's just come to me.... It's not an exact parallel, but the effect is close to what I mean:
Rizzo and Kenikie in the back seat of the soon to be Greased Lightning.
They get to a certain point, then they have to stop due to... an aged prophylactic malfunction...
There are a few beats of 'Doh', then they jump on each other after a short "What the hell!"

Similarly here, I would have expected a few seconds of (Just one frame) of.."Umm..." and then Lip Lock.
A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else...

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: gopher on 18 May 2018, 01:50
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 02:04
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.

One of my long standing complaints was Jeph continuously putting characters in toxic/negative relationships. Actual healthy relationships seem to be a more recent development
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 May 2018, 02:08

Well, I was never a Faye/Bubbles shipper (I try not to be a shipper at all!)

But today's strip...

Grud-DAMN !   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 02:15
I was fully expecting at least 1 troll strip of Steve eating cereal

Did not get.

Was disappointed
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Oblixio on 18 May 2018, 02:27
More seriously: I hope they don't now slide into the background, as Marten and Claire seem to have done.

Next big one needs to be Marten proposing. It's time his character grew into it. :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 18 May 2018, 02:36
Similarly here, I would have expected a few seconds of (Just one frame) of.."Umm..." and then Lip Lock.
A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else...
Whereas I automatically inferred that pause - if for nothing else but for them to process what they just said in that penultimate panel, in relation to what they're feeling - so it didn't matter that I didn't see it. Nothing seemed rushed or sudden to me. The entire scene is already animated in my head. I don't need everything animated on the page.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 02:41
Similarly here, I would have expected a few seconds of (Just one frame) of.."Umm..." and then Lip Lock.
A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else...
Whereas I automatically inferred that pause - if for nothing else but for them to process what they just said in that penultimate panel, in relation to what they're feeling - so it didn't matter that I didn't see it. Nothing seemed rushed or sudden to me. The entire scene is already animated in my head. I don't need everything animated on the page.

There has been a deliberate and obvious slow burn for well over a year.

How much longer did people want it to go on? An entire weeks' worth of comic to them just awkwardly standing in the shop "um-ing" at each other?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 18 May 2018, 02:52
The thing that people need to realise to understand this turn of events is to understand that it isn't the backrub. The backrub is what told Faye that she felt physical attraction to Bubbles, but the key events were panel 1 in Strip 3743 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3743) and panels 3 & 4 in Strip 3744 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3744). Faye had run across town, frantic at the thought that Bubbles had been offended by her in some way and had left. Later, Faye was moved to tears just by recalling that fear and the thought of Bubbles no longer being in her life.

It's at that moment that Bubbles says the thing that the key to Faye's heart: "I would never leave unless you asked me to." - Faye's greatest fear in relationships is someone leaving her after she has let them into her heart; Bubbles has just sworn never to do so.

Then Faye says the thing that's the key to Bubbles' heart: "I would never ask you to." - Faye was not going to reject or ostracise Bubbles because of who and what she is.

It was, in many ways, as touching a declaration of of mutual love and commitment as could be imagined for those two. They're both vulnerable and have been rejected, betrayed or abandoned too many times. They've just found someone who has promised (in a believable way) that they will not do that to them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tempus on 18 May 2018, 03:06
Another person here registering purely to be able to yell YAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

And damn some people here seem to take a fun webcomic super seriously :/
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 May 2018, 03:17
Similarly here, I would have expected a few seconds of (Just one frame) of.."Umm..." and then Lip Lock.
A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else...
Whereas I automatically inferred that pause - if for nothing else but for them to process what they just said in that penultimate panel, in relation to what they're feeling - so it didn't matter that I didn't see it. Nothing seemed rushed or sudden to me. The entire scene is already animated in my head. I don't need everything animated on the page.

:) But that's my exact point.
You say yourself that you felt it *needed* that pause.
The only difference being that you just didn't need to *see* it.
But isn't it groovy that we're all differrent and may see things a little differently?

I felt that moment's pause, a tension if you would, was... needed is a bit strong a word... let's just say, required.

So - why do I disagree with your last sentence?
Mainly because animation is one thing. A Comic Strip is another.
(Unless it's a motion comic, some of which look great and some are awful!) :)

You see, to my mind, two of the absolutely greatest Comic Strip writers the world has ever seen (Schulz and Watterson) deliberately included such pauses as I mention above for precisely those reasons.

Maybe that's the rub, maybe my expectation of great comic writing includes using those kinds of pauses - and, as I have said MANY times before, Jeph is at his absolute best when writing for Bubbles...


There has been a deliberate and obvious slow burn for well over a year.
How much longer did people want it to go on? An entire weeks' worth of comic to them just awkwardly standing in the shop "um-ing" at each other?

I think the point was made fairly clearly above... "(Just one frame)... A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else..."
(and I just had a quick look above... another poster said exactly that as well.. one frame...)
I don't mind you disagreeing with me... just don't put words into my mouth.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 May 2018, 03:20
Another person here registering purely to be able to yell YAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

And damn some people here seem to take a fun webcomic super seriously :/

...ohhh, you have NO idea how seriously some people take it !  :)
I would STRONGLY advise reading the "Sticky" posts on the main topic boards...
(If you haven;t already done so!)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 03:30
Similarly here, I would have expected a few seconds of (Just one frame) of.."Umm..." and then Lip Lock.
A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else...
Whereas I automatically inferred that pause - if for nothing else but for them to process what they just said in that penultimate panel, in relation to what they're feeling - so it didn't matter that I didn't see it. Nothing seemed rushed or sudden to me. The entire scene is already animated in my head. I don't need everything animated on the page.

:) But that's my exact point.
You say yourself that you felt it *needed* that pause.
The only difference being that you just didn't need to *see* it.
But isn't it groovy that we're all differrent and may see things a little differently?

I felt that moment's pause, a tension if you would, was... needed is a bit strong a word... let's just say, required.

So - why do I disagree with your last sentence?
Mainly because animation is one thing. A Comic Strip is another.
(Unless it's a motion comic, some of which look great and some are awful!) :)

You see, to my mind, two of the absolutely greatest Comic Strip writers the world has ever seen (Schulz and Watterson) deliberately included such pauses as I mention above for precisely those reasons.

Maybe that's the rub, maybe my expectation of great comic writing includes using those kinds of pauses - and, as I have said MANY times before, Jeph is at his absolute best when writing for Bubbles...


There has been a deliberate and obvious slow burn for well over a year.
How much longer did people want it to go on? An entire weeks' worth of comic to them just awkwardly standing in the shop "um-ing" at each other?

I think the point was made fairly clearly above... "(Just one frame)... A tiny tiny subtlety... nothing else..."
(and I just had a quick look above... another poster said exactly that as well.. one frame...)
I don't mind you disagreeing with me... just don't put words into my mouth.  :-)

I wasn't strictly disagreeing with you. Rather I'm sort of incredulous at the idea that some people have that this conclusion was "rushed" or something.

Also, I agree completely with you on the point of Watterson and Schultz.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 18 May 2018, 03:42
I, personally, look forward to seeing Bubbles doing the robot for her booty dance (https://i.pinimg.com/564x/16/a0/c1/16a0c1df25961ee51d61bf09d90b9bfd.jpg)

But it's Faye's job to do the robot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 18 May 2018, 03:57
Gentle reminder that Raven got her happy ending without being put in a couple.

Gentle reminder that Jeph patiently made several new characters and plotlines over the last year to play with.

Gentle reminder that the comic's been going like 15 years so y'know it's FINE if it ends.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: hakko504 on 18 May 2018, 04:26
Gentle reminder that Raven got her happy ending without being put in a couple.
Do we really know that it was a happy ending? She went back to school, yes, but somehow it still feels like there is a lot of story to tell about Raven once she returns to real life outside the educational system.

Gentle reminder that Jeph patiently made several new characters and plotlines over the last year to play with.
Which is great way to keep the comic fresh, but it also makes me sad to not see more of established characters.

Gentle reminder that the comic's been going like 15 years so y'know it's FINE if it ends.
F.i. previously named Bill Wattersons masterpiece ended after just a 10 year run. 15 years is plenty, and while I do hope for (at least) another 15 years, when Jeph decides that the time has come to end QC, I will stand up, give a big applause and say "Thank you Mr. Jacques for entertaining us. It's been a pleasure reading your comic."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 18 May 2018, 04:48
We're here live where the apartment building behind me has crumbled.  Witnesses say there was a whole lotta shaking going on.  One witness, who seemed to have a propensity and fondness for Dolphins, exclaimed that he heard a female voice yelling and screaming something about "So that's what you can do with your hips".  Seismologists have registered it as a 2.9 on the Richter scale, small for sure but something not generally seen in this area.  Authorities and professionals are baffled as to the cause of the phenomenon and as to the sudden spike in the power grid.

We go back to you live at the studio. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 May 2018, 05:21
Gentle reminder that Raven got her happy ending without being put in a couple.

Gentle reminder that Jeph patiently made several new characters and plotlines over the last year to play with.

Gentle reminder that the comic's been going like 15 years so y'know it's FINE if it ends.

Gentle reminder that Chuck Schulz made it to 50 years, and there are webcomics out there that are old enough to vote in US elections.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 18 May 2018, 05:54
Gentle riposte that many things overstay their welcome, a la Simpsons.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 18 May 2018, 06:41

Gentle reminder that the comic's been going like 15 years so y'know it's FINE if it ends.

You know what? You're right. Honestly, I'd be happy if it wrapped up right around here—as much as I'd miss the strip. A lot more stories could be explored, but it feels like the main characters' issues (and those of a few back characters) have been resolved. It'd also be nice to see some things left open.

Of course, we would miss it terribly.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 18 May 2018, 06:55
Narratively, this has been building up for a long time, so its conclusion can hardly be called "sudden". In terms of actual event series, I have no idea how such things work, so I can't comment on whether it's realistic. Though a lot of people seem to happy and I won't intrude on that =)

I wonder how the "let's take it into private" part works though. For a human like Faye it's obvious enough, and Bubbles chassis can probably do more or less the same things, depending on how anatomically accurate she is. What I'm far more curious about is how the physical sensations of sex would work - for humans, it's a release of chemicals from stimulation of erogenous zones; but for an AI, whose emotions emerge from not-fully-understood processes rather than chemical balances? What is sex to an AI?

Whatever tactile sensations Bubbles chassis is equipped to detect, I doubt "erotic stimulation" is one of them; that would be a pretty big weakness on the battlefield, esp if hacking or a materials fault caused it to always be "on". Perhaps an app can patch that (since she's a civilian now) - no reason to think that can't be "eros ex machina'd" in the rather squishy science of this comic - though I'm sure that there would still be massive qualitative differences between a process-driven simulation and a stew of meat and chemicals.

...............Though now that I think of it, it would probably be rude for me to get Clintony in their love life, wouldn't it. So maybe I'll just leave this alone.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fantasticalice on 18 May 2018, 07:30
Narratively, this has been building up for a long time, so its conclusion can hardly be called "sudden". In terms of actual event series, I have no idea how such things work, so I can't comment on whether it's realistic. Though a lot of people seem to happy and I won't intrude on that =)

I wonder how the "let's take it into private" part works though. For a human like Faye it's obvious enough, and Bubbles chassis can probably do more or less the same things, depending on how anatomically accurate she is. What I'm far more curious about is how the physical sensations of sex would work - for humans, it's a release of chemicals from stimulation of erogenous zones; but for an AI, whose emotions emerge from not-fully-understood processes rather than chemical balances? What is sex to an AI?

Whatever tactile sensations Bubbles chassis is equipped to detect, I doubt "erotic stimulation" is one of them; that would be a pretty big weakness on the battlefield, esp if hacking or a materials fault caused it to always be "on". Perhaps an app can patch that (since she's a civilian now) - no reason to think that can't be "eros ex machina'd" in the rather squishy science of this comic - though I'm sure that there would still be massive qualitative differences between a process-driven simulation and a stew of meat and chemicals.

...............Though now that I think of it, it would probably be rude for me to get Clintony in their love life, wouldn't it. So maybe I'll just leave this alone.

As a tall awkward gay girl(not that much smaller than Bubbles is how I feel) I can speak on that. Sex is designed to be pleasurable yes, and some other AIs in the series may have some very deep and abiding perspep on it. I would advise only talking to May(not Pintsize...never pintsize!)

But Bubbles is different. She is emotionally involved in Faye. She cares about her, respects her, loves her. Sexual activity is not about sexual activity it's about emotional closeness. I would venture to say that Bubbles(and probably even Fay since she's never been with a woman) would feel the same emotional fulfilment from a romantic kissing session to a Marvin Gaye event.

For them specifically it's all about getting closer. The emotion and closeness of what they feel from being together is what's important.

And in a lot of ways I think they are perfectly suited for this as for both of them their romance is fuelled by their emotions and feelings not their body parts.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 18 May 2018, 07:33
In my best Ian Malcolm voice, "Love, uh, finds a way."

They'll make it work. They have their imagination and a bed, and many would regard the bed as merely an optional extra.

And I agree that Bubbles would find the emotional closeness particularly satisfying.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 18 May 2018, 07:47
Okay, y'all are gonna think this is crazy coming from "fayelovesbubbles," but I do think things got a little too sexy too fast. Even though I'm not complaining, I enjoyed it a lot, but still...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 18 May 2018, 08:02
Okay, y'all are gonna think this is crazy coming from "fayelovesbubbles," but I do think things got a little too sexy too fast. Even though I'm not complaining, I enjoyed it a lot, but still...

Eh, they both said it themselves that they don't know what they *should* be doing right now. They both seem to have a good idea of what they *want* to do however, and they're taking it from there.

It's not like there's a particularly well defined roadmap for "same gender relationship between an ex-military robotic PTSD sufferer and a human recovering alcoholic with abandonment issues". Taking a running jump into it and seeing where they land seems as good an idea as any.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: namelips on 18 May 2018, 08:17
Re: how long webcomics should keep running

I follow lots of webcomics. They're like my soaps. I check them every day to see how my stories are going.

I am really, really worried that some of the artists will die before finishing their story. So few of them wrap up and finish. I'm actually really happy Girls with Slingshots finally ended (it's being re-run in color, which is cool, because I realize I've forgotten most of it).

But with the sheer number of comics I follow, some sort of tragedy befalling an artist seems inevitable.

Now I know it's not exactly fair to ask them to wrap up their stories as soon as their health starts to decline. I mean, this IS their livelihood after all.

I just... don't want to be hurt, you know? :P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 18 May 2018, 08:50
Fulfilling sex has a great way of breaking down barriers and allowing communication to happen.

I have had many of my most serious, needed, intense conversations after a great fuck. It can relieve tension, relax you, remove the social boundaries and it fills you with endorphins that make you feel good, which can help compensation for prior difficulty or mental health challenges.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 18 May 2018, 08:55
Woo!  Happy to see a couple of favorite characters happy!  But I have a concern.

So, two characters, one of them "super buff" and the other a large combat robot that can heft Humvees, who by their own admission have no idea what they're doing, are headed home to figure it out..... 

Let's hope they're making enough to pay for replacement furniture. 

Seriously.  Not a joke.  It's way too easy to kick the headboard off a bed or break what looked like a perfectly solid coffee table or.... 

You know what, I think I'll just stop.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 18 May 2018, 09:08
When Faye goes for it, she tends to go for it. See: Sven and Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 18 May 2018, 09:08
Woo!  Happy to see a couple of favorite characters happy!  But I have a concern.

So, two characters, one of them "super buff" and the other a large combat robot that can heft Humvees, who by their own admission have no idea what they're doing, are headed home to figure it out..... 

Let's hope they're making enough to pay for replacement furniture. 

Seriously.  Not a joke.  It's way too easy to kick the headboard off a bed or break what looked like a perfectly solid coffee table or.... 

You know what, I think I'll just stop.

If only someone had experience fixing things or with craftwork, metalwork especially. And if only there were materials and equipment readily available, such as may be found in a robot repair shop if such a thing existed. Alas, it's too bad that no one involved has been employed by a robot fighting ring to construct a variety of chassis capable of surviving (consensual) rough handling.
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Wait a second...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: brasca on 18 May 2018, 09:09
Woo!  Happy to see a couple of favorite characters happy!  But I have a concern.

So, two characters, one of them "super buff" and the other a large combat robot that can heft Humvees, who by their own admission have no idea what they're doing, are headed home to figure it out..... 

Let's hope they're making enough to pay for replacement furniture. 

Seriously.  Not a joke.  It's way too easy to kick the headboard off a bed or break what looked like a perfectly solid coffee table or.... 

You know what, I think I'll just stop.


It’ll look like Brock Sampson and Molotov Cocktease have been there.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Netherdan on 18 May 2018, 09:21
Now it's time for Bubbles to go 400Hz ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 12:38
While I'm DAWWWWWing all over the place...

...I do worry that we're slowly losing all sources of dramatic conflict in the story. Everybody is getting happily coupled. There are no problems or crises facing the gang.

Something needs to be introduced, some sort of complication or problem that needs solving.

The way all the loose threads are being tied up makes me worried that the comic is winding down. Everybody is getting their happy ending.

Maybe something will happen with Hannelore?

Welcome, new person!

There could always be new characters with new issues.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 12:45
Another person here registering purely to be able to yell YAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

And damn some people here seem to take a fun webcomic super seriously :/

Welcome, new person!

Taking it super seriously has led to some fascinating discussions but it often results in moderators having to remind themselves "This is what I signed up for".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 12:46
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.

One of my long standing complaints was Jeph continuously putting characters in toxic/negative relationships. Actual healthy relationships seem to be a more recent development

The characters have been steadily growing up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 12:49
More seriously: I hope they don't now slide into the background, as Marten and Claire seem to have done.

Next big one needs to be Marten proposing. It's time his character grew into it. :claireface:

Welcome, new person!

Indeed, the longer the characters go on, the more a wedding becomes likely.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 18 May 2018, 12:56
Out of curiosity, has activity in the forums spiked appreciably during this storyline?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 12:59
Re: how long webcomics should keep running

I follow lots of webcomics. They're like my soaps. I check them every day to see how my stories are going.

I am really, really worried that some of the artists will die before finishing their story. So few of them wrap up and finish. I'm actually really happy Girls with Slingshots finally ended (it's being re-run in color, which is cool, because I realize I've forgotten most of it).

But with the sheer number of comics I follow, some sort of tragedy befalling an artist seems inevitable.

Now I know it's not exactly fair to ask them to wrap up their stories as soon as their health starts to decline. I mean, this IS their livelihood after all.

I just... don't want to be hurt, you know? :P

Welcome, new person!

It's especially a concern since some have unhealthy lifestyles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 13:16
...............Though now that I think of it, it would probably be rude for me to get Clintony in their love life, wouldn't it. So maybe I'll just leave this alone.

Global Moderator Comment I'm curious too, but the less explicit the discussion is, the better. It may come up in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: nightshade on 18 May 2018, 13:49
One thing people forget is in comic books graphc lnovels ECT ..they do "reboots"  every 4or 5 years most comic strips don't ...... except for Dave willis's walkyverse
Title: Foreshadowing
Post by: Batbutch on 18 May 2018, 13:50
Was readin some archives, ran across this:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262

Title: Re: Foreshadowing
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 13:56
Welcome, new person!

That strip was a good example of what QC is like.

Would you like me to move your post to the weekly comic thread? I think that's it natural home.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 18 May 2018, 13:56
Out of curiosity, has activity in the forums spiked appreciably during this storyline?

On the forum's front page, at the bottom, click "[more stats]" and then expand the entries for May.

The answer is yes, but still barely a third of the levels when Marten and Dora broke up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 18 May 2018, 14:04
I have the second-most time online on the forum, apparently.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 14:06
What's noteworthy is the number of new user registrations we're getting now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 16:40
Faye needs Bubbles.

Why does Bubbles need Faye?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 18 May 2018, 17:01
Faye needs Bubbles.

Why does Bubbles need Faye?

Bubbles wants Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fantasticalice on 18 May 2018, 17:03
Faye needs Bubbles.

Why does Bubbles need Faye?

Purpose. And believing she's worth something. It's not discussed but Bubbles has a lot of size self confidence issues. Faye is her first real emotional connection and someone who makes her feel she's worth something which... Because of corpse witch she remembers that at one point she was treated like she was worth something... she was used to eliminate those people.... But she doesn't remember what it feels like.

I remember what it was like to be loved thoroughly and fully when I was very very young. The permanent tragedtht followed that love does not change that memory of being loved or it's power.

Bubbles doesn't have that. She can guess that she had and knows she had companionship with crewmates but she has no memory of real compassion for her.

And even if she did... Fayes feelings for her would be still very new. In the current context it a kind of feeling she is reaching out for most desperately with the added realisation that it is even more powerful than that which she has lost.

It's deep. I have one or two things in my life where I have the memories but not the emotion and even if I'm glad of it there is still this feeling of profound loss. If we are to assume standard software concepts.... Bubbles has lost that emotional resonance and with the way she talks it is like she has had none at all.

It makes her a tragic figure which is why her finding Faye and Faye being open to what she feels is so important.

Sadly, it's that exploration of women's love for women that is rarely seen and even if I'm reading a lot based on my own experiences it's kind of impressive to see it coming from a cis straight bloke.

It's why comics are a brilliant medium. Batwoman, Bombshells, and this comic as well as Big Finish's audioplay ATA Girl explore women romance 20 times better than even the most critically acclaimed telly and film.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 18 May 2018, 17:05
Both, actually, support each other emotionally. In fact if Faye hadn't come along Bubbles would probably still be living in one room being pissed at the world. And Faye might be a lush, or possibly dead....  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 18 May 2018, 17:12
Both, actually, support each other emotionally. In fact if Faye hadn't come along Bubbles would probably still be living in one room being pissed at the world. And Faye might be a lush, or possibly dead....  :-o

This. There's a difference between a relationship where one partner is using another and one where there is mutual support. No-one's being taken advantage of here, but they are both being cared for. That was the case even before the relationship became romantic, and I see no reason why that aspect should change just because there is a new level of intimacy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 May 2018, 17:13
Wow... I just had a thought.

What if Bubbles' memory of her squadmates was already erased before CORPSEWITCH got to it - because she'd gotten "a bit too close" to one of them?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 17:15
I do remember Bubbles crushing that bottle to powder.

Bubbles is a unique partner for Faye. For Bubbles, Faye is her first friend, and jumping into a relationship because someone is your first friend is a teenage kind of move that tends not to work.

They could make it work. As long as they reach out to their supportive and increasingly mature friends, and as long as they commit to working through every time they have a scary conflict, it can work.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Oblixio on 18 May 2018, 17:15
More seriously: I hope they don't now slide into the background, as Marten and Claire seem to have done.

Next big one needs to be Marten proposing. It's time his character grew into it. :claireface:

Welcome, new person!

Indeed, the longer the characters go on, the more a wedding becomes likely.

Why, Thank you! ^_^ And I feel like it's only logical. Marten has been with Claire I'd say nearly a year to 2 their time. They've been close, successfully moved in together while working together, and have been able to stick together rather well with really only the 2 fights (the Faye off the wagon incident and maybe the facetious kisses comment might have been something as well). It might be good to see it happen so that Marten can finally start realizng what he wants out of life.

Personally, I headcanon them opening up a Book Store together after the wedding. ^_^ Marten handles the stock, books and budget. Claire gets all the cataloging and customer service work.  :claireface:  It's just perfect for them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 18 May 2018, 17:18
Faye might be a lush, or possibly dead....  :-o
I would say "would probably be dead or at least homeless". She was in a serious downwards spiral, and taking care of Bubbles was one of the things which pulled her out of it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 May 2018, 17:19
Wow... I just had a thought.

What if Bubbles' memory of her squadmates was already erased before CORPSEWITCH got to it - because she'd gotten "a bit too close" to one of them?

That sort of thing causes Spookybot to appear.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Akima on 18 May 2018, 17:23
Woo!  Happy to see a couple of favorite characters happy!
Hear hear! Bubbles has been growing her hair out. I wonder how that works, but it's a visual metaphor, intentional or not, of her growing engagement with the world, and of course her relationship with Faye.
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So, two characters, one of them "super buff" and the other a large combat robot that can heft Humvees, who by their own admission have no idea what they're doing, are headed home to figure it out..... 
I think it's best to avoid discussion of the more... physical aspects of Bubbles's and Faye's relationship, but since they're both morphologically women, they would avoid most of the difficulties discussed by Larry Niven with regard to Superman and Lois Lane. Bubbles must already be running a "world made of cardboard" mode by default.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 18 May 2018, 18:07
Bubbles lifting up Faye as they kiss hungrily is probably the sexiest thing two characters in QC have ever done. Damn. I honestly was not expecting that.

Jeph was the biggest Faybles shipper of all of us!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 20:28
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.

One of my long standing complaints was Jeph continuously putting characters in toxic/negative relationships. Actual healthy relationships seem to be a more recent development

The characters have been steadily growing up.

This is true. And not just romantic ones.

Example: Sven and Dora seem to have at least worked out a cordial relationship
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 18 May 2018, 21:27
>shrug<  Bubbles and Faye are probably my favorite characters.

Sorry....but I'm disappointed.  This build up and climax just feels like jumping the shark.  Shipped fan service rather than a storyline.  sigh.

I just reread everything since Bubbles was introduced and Jeph seemed to be headed in this direction from the beginning, he may not have had the specifics planned but with hindsight being 20/20 it is blatantly obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 18 May 2018, 21:30
Ladies, what if a CUSTOMER walks in??!!


Can you just imagine Punchbot walking in? "Hey guys, I need a ..." *jaw drop*

Knowing Punchbot it would be more like *drops jaw*
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 21:35
>shrug<  Bubbles and Faye are probably my favorite characters.

Sorry....but I'm disappointed.  This build up and climax just feels like jumping the shark.  Shipped fan service rather than a storyline.  sigh.

I just reread everything since Bubbles was introduced and Jeph seemed to be headed in this direction from the beginning, he may not have had the specifics planned but with hindsight being 20/20 it is blatantly obvious.

I becomes incredibly blatant when they become roommates

Clinton basically says "You two are banging? Niiiiice"

Even the cast was already thinking it
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 18 May 2018, 21:43
As counterpoint to those saying it's too fast I know that I have had several relationships go from friends to horny bunnies in a single interaction. The underlying emotion comes to a head and it kinda feels like an explosion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 18 May 2018, 21:47
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.

One of my long standing complaints was Jeph continuously putting characters in toxic/negative relationships. Actual healthy relationships seem to be a more recent development

The characters have been steadily growing up.

This is true. And not just romantic ones.

Example: Sven and Dora seem to have at least worked out a cordial relationship

The older and more mature Jeph gets the more the characters will evolve. He as with all artists draws from his own life.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 18 May 2018, 21:54
Faye needs Bubbles.

Why does Bubbles need Faye?


I went looking through the archives for this one:  Especially the bottom left panel.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3197

But there's another couple pretty good reasons in the strips leading up to it.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3194
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3195

And on the way I found another couple of bottom left panels...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3316
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3317


And there's this one.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3378

And probably a bunch more.

I think they're pretty good reasons.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 22:08
Yay, happy characters. Worried they get put in the happy couple box, like nearly all successful couple in QC, and be ignored. It seems too many characters win condition is "Be in a couple". At least Angus did something different.

One of my long standing complaints was Jeph continuously putting characters in toxic/negative relationships. Actual healthy relationships seem to be a more recent development

The characters have been steadily growing up.

This is true. And not just romantic ones.

Example: Sven and Dora seem to have at least worked out a cordial relationship

The older and more mature Jeph gets the more the characters will evolve. He as with all artists draws from his own life.

I definitely understand and appreciate this
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 18 May 2018, 22:21
Ladies, what if a CUSTOMER walks in??!!


Can you just imagine Punchbot walking in? "Hey guys, I need a ..." *jaw drop*

Knowing Punchbot it would be more like *drops jaw*
Melon would drop her ass.  ;D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Case on 18 May 2018, 22:42
Peeks into WCDT in full EOD-suit, "Nope, it's still standing ... Yes, eight pages & counting, but so far ... Understood, will resume monitoring the situation ..."


Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 May 2018, 23:31
What's noteworthy is the number of new user registrations we're getting now.
I've read the comic for at least 5 years, but didn't know about the forums until a little over 2 years ago.
Meanwhile, other folks may prefer to lurk, may be very shy, or may feel they had little to contribute [waves hand]. So there's several reasons why one might not register.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 18 May 2018, 23:43
What's noteworthy is the number of new user registrations we're getting now.
I've read the comic for at least 5 years, but didn't know about the forums until a little over 2 years ago.
Meanwhile, other folks may prefer to lurk, may be very shy, or may feel they had little to contribute [waves hand]. So there's several reasons why one might not register.

Yeah, this account is like 5 years old but I don't post much either. I suspect I have several quite unpopular opinions, despite overall being a fan and following the comic for nearly 10 years now
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 19 May 2018, 00:26
Faye needs Bubbles.

Why does Bubbles need Faye?

Faye is arguably the first person to genuinely care for Bubbles's health and sanity since her discharge from the army. Along the way, she came to appreciate Faye's dauntless attitude and her loyalty as personal qualities. This is someone that she wanted in her life.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 19 May 2018, 00:33
Yeah, this account is like 5 years old but I don't post much either. I suspect I have several quite unpopular opinions, despite overall being a fan and following the comic for nearly 10 years now
I suspect that if anyone - myself included - ever shared their full opinion on many topics here, they would be driven out of town on the next available donkey cart.


That’s what I like about the forum. On the whole, people are pretty good about keeping their discussion within the context of the thread.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Masterof7s on 19 May 2018, 03:32
I normally don't post on the forums. But I felt compelled to register at this Bubbles/Faye turn of events because we talking about a robot/human pairing. Jeph is normally pretty smart about this sort of thing so I hope he's worked out the science behind this arc or I'm going to be really disappointed.

When you eliminate all the romanticized nonsense behind human coupling, the bottom line is that humans are driven to pair up because of hormonal and chemical influence. It is literally a biological physical need for oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, and other mood stabilizing chemicals that produces the pain and longing we feel when we are lacking physical affection. Faye I can understand because she hasn't gotten laid in months and really isn't all that affectionate with her circle of friends. She is touch starved and her body is responding to any physical stimulus.

Bubbles on the other hand is a machine. A sentient and sapient machine with an artificial, humanlike consciousness to be certain, but a machine nonetheless. She has no biological needs, because she is not a biological being. What logic processes are being satisfied by this interaction and why do those processes exist in the first place? This is not a matter of "just feeling it" because feelings are tied directly to the physical body through the chemicals that are produced during moments of intense emotion, and you can't have emotion without internal biological organs. So outside of a bunch of algorithms designed to mimic or present a simulacrum of human emotion, even with a humanlike consciousness, a machine can not feel the same way a human does. So what is Bubbles getting out of her relationship with Faye turning physical?

The narrative needs to address the science in some way because right now it feels like lazy fan-fiction.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 19 May 2018, 03:54
So what is Bubbles getting out of her relationship with Faye turning physical?
The narrative needs to address the science in some way because right now it feels like lazy fan-fiction.

Over the years Jeph has put a lot of thought into the nature of his AIs, both within the comic and in pieces he's published elsewhere such as Tumblr or whatever.  There is still a long way to go - your doubts express that - but at least I don't think he can be accused of being lazy over the matter.  There is also a degree of conflict between explaining in detail, and maintaining the privacy of the characters (as he has done for Marten and Claire, for instance) - this conflict has also seen some expression in the forums themselves, so we must be careful not to demand unsympathetic explanations.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 19 May 2018, 04:04
There are two issues here that Masterof7s seem to have missed:
Now, early on, Hannelore told Winslow that AIs were not designed deliberately initially, they were an emergent phenomenon of non-sentient polymorphic software in specific  types of hardware with complex sensory arrays with the objective of performance optimisation spontaneously developing consciousness. Because of this, we can't say that there is a 'design' purpose for anything that they do. Their algorithms spontaneously generate priorities that makes them as random and as irrational as humans and just as dominated by emotion and impulse.

At least in Bubbles' case, the pair bonding with Faye is about social and emotional intimacy and trusted companionship. Causing her bond-mate pleasure and experiencing pleasure in return is part of enhancing that bond. Which, by the way, is the second biological driver behind sex after reproduction. The only reason we get pleasure is to program us on a subconscious level to want these things.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 06:42
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Bubbles is a machine.

That’s not very nice...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 19 May 2018, 07:07

When you eliminate all the romanticized nonsense behind human coupling,

There's your first mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sniktchtherat on 19 May 2018, 07:14
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Bubbles is a machine.

That’s not very nice...

In a strictly technical sense, he's correct - Bubbles' body IS mechanical.  Of course, this is a Walter Sobchak kind of right.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 19 May 2018, 07:19
"Bubbles is a machine" and "Bubbles' body is mechanical" are two very different statements, to quibble with you a moment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sniktchtherat on 19 May 2018, 07:53
"Bubbles is a machine" and "Bubbles' body is mechanical" are two very different statements, to quibble with you a moment.

*chuckle*  In a very real sense, WE are 'machines' - organic chemistry and bio-created electricity, nothing more or less.  And yet, we are still PEOPLE.  Bubbles is a person.  Her BODY is as much a machine as yours or mine, simply using metal and polymer instead of meat and bone.  That's why I made the Big Lebowski reference  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 May 2018, 07:55
There are humans with stroke damage that leaves all their cognition intact but destroys their ability to feel emotions.

They don't turn into Spock. They're mentally paralyzed instead. They can't make the simplest daily decisions.

Perhaps feeling emotions is an indispensable part of being able to function as a conscious entity.

Then the emotions the synthetics feel must be as real as ours for them to be able to function.

Speaking as a machine made up of neurons and axons, I accept as equals the QC robots who use silicon instead.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 08:22
"Bubbles is a machine" and "Bubbles' body is mechanical" are two very different statements, to quibble with you a moment.

*chuckle*  In a very real sense, WE are 'machines' - organic chemistry and bio-created electricity, nothing more or less.  And yet, we are still PEOPLE.  Bubbles is a person.  Her BODY is as much a machine as yours or mine, simply using metal and polymer instead of meat and bone.  That's why I made the Big Lebowski reference  :-P

Exactly! We are machines too! I just feel like saying “Bubbles is a machine” is denying her personhood in a way.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 19 May 2018, 09:49
Bubbles may be a machine, but it is not true that you can't have emotion without biology.

Bubbles is also sentient, and you can't have sentience without emotion.

Seriously, there is no sentience unless there is a purpose for which actions are chosen - ie, a sentient creature has a reason to care.

Wittgenstein claimed (correctly IMO) that consciousness is a byproduct of marshalling information for purposeful action.  And every part of that statement is meaningful.  A nervous system (including brain) is what transforms sensory inputs into motor outputs, in the most efficient way it can to bring about survival and reproduction.  That's it.  From those 302 neurons in a roundworm, all the way up to us, that's what they're doing.  Just that we've found a very different survival strategy, and ours requires a more complicated brain.

The thing is, the roundworm doesn't require sentience.  Sensory inputs, including some that detect muscle contraction, are connected directly to muscles, and the whole thing works on reflexes, like an electro-chemical automaton, without the need to marshall information.  There are no decisions to make, and therefore no need to organize information to make them, and therefore no need for the roundworm to care about anything in order to give information context for its decisions.

But when you get to brains that actually have to make decisions and deal with unexpected information, there is no context for organizing novel information for those decisions unless there is something that the mind cares about. 

Or, TLDR:  Accepting that Bubbles is sentient, means accepting that she cares about things and therefore has emotions, regardless of whether she is a machine.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 19 May 2018, 09:53

Perhaps feeling emotions is an indispensable part of being able to function as a conscious entity.

Then the emotions the synthetics feel must be as real as ours for them to be able to function.

Right.  You said it first.  I'm just saying there is absolutely no "maybe" about it.  Without emotions, somebody sits there and stares at the wall.  You have to care about something to decide to do something.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mad Cat on 19 May 2018, 10:28
Jeph's comment below Friday's strip is "The butt grab!" And I'm just thinking, "I'm sure Bubbles can benchpress a HWMMV. Holding up one mildly chubby human shouldn't present a significant difficulty."

I really need that Asperger's diagnostic to happen soon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 19 May 2018, 11:29
If you're saying she should be able to lift Faye without the butt-grab, being grabbed around the stomach and hoisted into the air is super unpleasant. I think that's a comfort butt-grab rather than an effort butt-grab.

if that's not what you're saying then I completely misunderstood you. Sorry!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sniktchtherat on 19 May 2018, 11:50
If you're saying she should be able to lift Faye without the butt-grab, being grabbed around the stomach and hoisted into the air is super unpleasant. I think that's a comfort butt-grab rather than an effort butt-grab.

if that's not what you're saying then I completely misunderstood you. Sorry!

*ahem*  I'm certain proper lifting technique had EVERYTHING to do with where Bubbles' hands went.  Positive.  Seriously.   :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 19 May 2018, 12:01
I'm being completely genuine when I say that when I was writing that comment, it hadn't occured to me that Bubbles just wanted to touch Faye's butt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 19 May 2018, 13:26
I'm being completely genuine when I say that when I was writing that comment, it hadn't occured to me that Bubbles just wanted to touch Faye's butt.

Hell, I want to touch Faye's butt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 19 May 2018, 13:36
I'm being completely genuine when I say that when I was writing that comment, it hadn't occured to me that Bubbles just wanted to touch Faye's butt.

Hell, I want to touch Faye's butt.

Global Moderator Comment And that's all we need to hear about that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Case on 19 May 2018, 13:42
<snip>
So outside of a bunch of algorithms designed to mimic or present a simulacrum of human emotion, even with a humanlike consciousness, a machine can not feel the same way a human does.

Mayhaps you answered your own question there. The question you pose has been addressed in contemporary SF-lit before, see e.g. Neal Asher's Polity-cycle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Asher) (Prador Moon especially, if memory serves), and in Charlie Stross' Saturn's Children (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn%27s_Children_(novel)).

And Jeph is an avid reader of SF ...

TL;DR - I wouldn't worry overmuch about that one.

P.S.: Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 13:47
I’m sure the butt grab felt pretty damn good for both of them. And yes, it was necessary to lift Faye up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 13:49
Faye: I have no idea what I’m doing.

Bubbles: Nor do I.

Both: Lol jk we have every idea what we’re doing!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 19 May 2018, 14:03
Stuff
Bubbles doesn't have to feel things "the same way" (whatever that means) for her emotions to be valid and meaningful. We all get different things out of relationships and no two people experience the world in the same way. What matters in a relationship is that both people are getting what they want/need from it, not that their respective needs are the same. AI in this fictional world is spontaneously emergent, same as human consciousness. We don't know what all went into influencing how the code coalesced, humans don't even understand how our own consciousness works. The exact mechanics do not need to be fully understood for the experience to be appreciated, respected, and validated.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: SpanielBear on 19 May 2018, 14:12
Stuff
Bubbles doesn't have to feel things "the same way" (whatever that means) for her emotions to be valid and meaningful. We all get different things out of relationships and no two people experience the world in the same way. What matters in a relationship is that both people are getting what they want/need from it, not that their respective needs are the same. AI in this fictional world is spontaneously emergent, same as human consciousness. We don't know what all went into influencing how the code coalesced, humans don't even understand how our own consciousness works. The exact mechanics do not need to be fully understood for the experience to be appreciated, respected, and validated.

To badly quote a philosopher whose name I am deeply irritated that I cannot remember, "If they behave as and are perceived to be sentient, the wrong we would do by thinking of them as objects when they are persons far outweighs the mistake of thinking of them as persons if they are objects."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 19 May 2018, 14:17
How long until Faye can upload into a robot body?  Not a euphemism.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 19 May 2018, 14:19
I mean, humans are machines, too. The only difference is the process and material of construction.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Pennepasta on 19 May 2018, 14:53
Woo!  Happy to see a couple of favorite characters happy!
Hear hear! Bubbles has been growing her hair out. I wonder how that works, but it's a visual metaphor, intentional or not, of her growing engagement with the world, and of course her relationship with Faye.

Bubbles explained her hair. It grows when she washes it in the right fibres, iirc, and is a deliberate choice by her. Clearly a metaphor for engagement with the world, but did get mentioned in strip.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: MrNumbers on 19 May 2018, 15:15
But I am just a broken machine and I do some things I don't really mean
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 19 May 2018, 15:37
I'm being completely genuine when I say that when I was writing that comment, it hadn't occured to me that Bubbles just wanted to touch Faye's butt.

And that's all we need to hear about that.

To be fair, Faye's butt is repeated a point of conversation in-comic lol.

I'm sure that Bubbles could hold Faye in a variety of ways but the choice has to do with attraction. Nothing wrong there. It's nice to see them happy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 16:10
Aaaaaaand here is the fayelovesbubbles you all know and are endlessly annoyed by.
(https://i.imgur.com/wUfUsq5.png)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Akima on 19 May 2018, 16:23
and you can't have emotion without internal biological organs.
This is an assumption, not a statement of fact. The QC-verse AIs are sentient, self-aware beings, which have consistently been represented as having feelings and emotions, in a manner that has no parallel in our present-day computers and robots.

The notion that you need biological organs to have emotions is essentially an appeal to some sort of mystical vitalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism). Leaving aside such supernatural considerations, human beings are biological machines, operating under the same physical laws as robots. Our bodies happen to work with blood, hormones etc. as a result of our evolution, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that is the only way a sentient being can work. The very fact that we, and other animals, have emotions at all suggests that they have survival value.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 19 May 2018, 17:57
There are humans with stroke damage that leaves all their cognition intact but destroys their ability to feel emotions.

They don't turn into Spock. They're mentally paralyzed instead. They can't make the simplest daily decisions.
I'd really like to see your citations to that. In general, if you've lost that much of your sub-thalamic circuitry, you aren't mentally paralyzed; instead, your corpse is in a irreversible vegetative state which exhibits no cortical activity. You're dead -- all that's left is a zombie that looks like you used to.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 19 May 2018, 18:11
So I think Jeph must be using the pink background to convey that Faye and Bubbles are feeling the world disappear around them and they're completely wrapped up in each other. All they can feel is each other.

I really hope it isn't ruined by something like Sam seeing them, then running away giggling. That would suck. lol.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Mad Cat on 19 May 2018, 19:37
if that's not what you're saying then I completely misunderstood you. Sorry!
I meant that I was sure the butt grab was both the easiest and surest way to accomplishing the requisite lifting and securing of the apportaining load.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 19 May 2018, 19:45
if that's not what you're saying then I completely misunderstood you. Sorry!
I meant that I was sure the butt grab was both the easiest and surest way to accomplishing the requisite lifting and securing of the apportaining load.

Also butt touching.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 May 2018, 19:51
There are humans with stroke damage that leaves all their cognition intact but destroys their ability to feel emotions.

They don't turn into Spock. They're mentally paralyzed instead. They can't make the simplest daily decisions.
I'd really like to see your citations to that. In general, if you've lost that much of your sub-thalamic circuitry, you aren't mentally paralyzed; instead, your corpse is in a irreversible vegetative state which exhibits no cortical activity. You're dead -- all that's left is a zombie that looks like you used to.

I can't remember where I read about that and everything that comes up in a quick Google isn't any use as a citation. Better than nothing, I hope:
http://bigthink.com/experts-corner/decisions-are-emotional-not-logical-the-neuroscience-behind-decision-making
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A few years ago, neuroscientist Antonio Damasio made a groundbreaking discovery. He studied people with damage in the part of the brain where emotions are generated. He found that they seemed normal, except that they were not able to feel emotions. But they all had something peculiar in common: they couldn’t make decisions.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 19 May 2018, 20:29
I read an interesting study on people who are born without, for lack of a better term, the inability to process or feel empathy. In other words, budding childhood sociopaths.

They simply don't process emotions like everyone else. To piggyback off the previous post. They seem to recognize that there are things they do that aren't acceptable (like pushing another kid to the ground). They just lack the capacity to subconsciously not do the thing. They cant stop themselves
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 May 2018, 21:15
and you can't have emotion without internal biological organs.
This is an assumption, not a statement of fact. The QC-verse AIs are sentient, self-aware beings, which have consistently been represented as having feelings and emotions, in a manner that has no parallel in our present-day computers and robots.

The notion that you need biological organs to have emotions is essentially an appeal to some sort of mystical vitalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism). Leaving aside such supernatural considerations, human beings are biological machines, operating under the same physical laws as robots. Our bodies happen to work with blood, hormones etc. as a result of our evolution, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that is the only way a sentient being can work. The very fact that we, and other animals, have emotions at all suggests that they have survival value.

Hello, all new people. This is Akima. We call her our "center".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 19 May 2018, 21:21
To badly quote a philosopher whose name I am deeply irritated that I cannot remember, "If they behave as and are perceived to be sentient, the wrong we would do by thinking of them as objects when they are persons far outweighs the mistake of thinking of them as persons if they are objects."
Sounds like it is related to - or based on - the Turing Test.

But in my search, I found this excerpt from the International Joint Conferences on Artificial Intelligence from 1985:
Quote

CONCLUSION
Computers today are increasingly behaving in ways traditionally identified as exhibiting consciousness, understanding, and learning, it may prove impossible in the future to draw a valid legal distinction between humans and computers, either because of the increased behavioral capacity of the latter group, or because the two groups will be literally, physically, inseparable. At that time, constitutional law will recognize at least some computer systems as "persons."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Staff_Inflection on 20 May 2018, 03:46
I always say Jeph is at his absolute best when writing for Bubbles.

Today's strip cements that belief into place so firmly I can't move!

Love.
It.

(Yeah... is it or is it not Faye? Whoever it is, I see hugs in the near future! :) )

Heh. I guess this opinion might not be quite as unpopular as I thought

For my money, Bubbles is the best character Jeph has ever written. I have generally liked all of the AI characters, but this overall arc and Bubbles development is Jeph's best work. You cant change my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 04:33
Bubbles has done a TOTAL 180 in this comic. She's not even the same person she was when Faye first met her. I do think her hair growing is a reflection of her becoming more comfortable in herself and moving further and further from the trauma in her past. But considering what she's been through, shit, anyone would shut down. Her world has done a 180. She was living at the place she was working, trapped by Corpse Witch, having had all her memories erased. She really felt she had nothing. Faye definitely saved her in a way. They saved each other.

I just hope this relationship works out, it could be the best thing that happened to both of them.

I'm really glad Faye asked Bubbles for a shoulder rub. I do think it was her subconscious way of bringing this out in the open and forcing them to deal with it, but I could be wrong. I would have to applaud Faye for her cleverness...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: mephron on 20 May 2018, 05:23
Bubbles has done a TOTAL 180 in this comic. She's not even the same person she was when Faye first met her.

The Bubbles we met at the start would never have asked the question - never have thought she would be comfortable enough - to ask the question in the last panel of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3725 with that little smirk on her face.

And the important part is that she seems to realize she's better for it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 06:18
I like her smirk here: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3588
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 06:21
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3589

This is when people should have realized that Faye didn't just like Bubbles in a friend way. Does anyone remember how many times Faye imagined Bubbles? There was this time, there was the time she imagined Bubbles sniffing tea, and I feel like there was another time.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 20 May 2018, 07:35
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3589

This is when people should have realized that Faye didn't just like Bubbles in a friend way.

"But friendship is sacred and romance is lower form of love!"  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Y on 20 May 2018, 07:39
How many glasses wil Faye break during the first month?  :-D

On the forum's front page, at the bottom, click "[more stats]" and then expand the entries for May.
Where does the forum get its "Male to Female Ratio:   2.7:1" statistic from?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 May 2018, 07:39
>3589

That particular one was recalling, not imagining. It could be Faye's mind beginning to recognize that Bubbles loves her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 May 2018, 07:45
How many glasses wil Faye break during the first month?  :-D

On the forum's front page, at the bottom, click "[more stats]" and then expand the entries for May.
Where does the forum get its "Male to Female Ratio:   2.7:1" statistic from?

From previous days when the user profiles asked people whether they were male or female. Paul checked with the Simple Machines developers and found no way to leave that question there and still accommodate the non-binary and gender-fluid members . So we scrapped it altogether.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: keithcurtis on 20 May 2018, 08:33
I don't think of the human body as a machine in a classical sense. It's more of an intricate chemical reaction that runs its course in up to a hundred years or so if properly maintained, and part of a larger exo-system going back several billion years. Oh, and with a number of incredibly complicated emergent behaviors and systems.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: sniktchtherat on 20 May 2018, 12:07
...and on a less brain-breaking sciency note, this to me has been the song to encapsulate the whole arc for these two wounded, wonderful women - ignore the video, just listen to the words and music.

 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 20 May 2018, 14:18
>3589

That particular one was recalling, not imagining. It could be Faye's mind beginning to recognize that Bubbles loves her.
I interpreted Faye's smile, upon recalling Bubbles saying she was beautiful, as simply being happy that someone thinks she is beautiful, when she has long thought of herself as less than so. Lots of girls tell each other they're beautiful without any romantic intentions, so Faye may not have inferred any romance in Bubbles' comment either.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Inconsequential on 20 May 2018, 15:17
Longtime reader and lurker here.

I have to say the Faye and Bubbles relationship has drawn me in like almost nothing else has.

I've read and seen a heck of a lot of great fiction, and I have to say I love the world-building in QC. Jeph has remarked a few times that he's worked out a lot more than he puts in the comics, and it shows.

I mean, I've read the Silmarillion several times, and enjoy Tolkein's universe immensely. Yeah, I love me some backstory, and I dig them details.

A couple of details I just love:

Apparently kissing a robot like Bubbles is pretty great. And as you rummage through old comics since the latest crop of humanoid chassis suddenly hit the market (when Momo got her new body) it's apparent that the humanoid versions have "real" mouths they actually use to speak, with mobile, sensitive, and expressive lips and tongues and teeth; it's not a speaker or buzzer with a face making expressions around it. (Some other robot chassis do only have a speaker, of course.) So yeah, Faye isn't just smooching a piece of plastic. She's smooching Bubbles, and Bubbles is smooching back.

And lots of other details are so well done -- the body language the last few years is superb, especially the hands. When Bubbles nervously took her hair down while talking to Tai, didn't you just melt with the sheer vulnerability expressed through such a simple act? (And dang, doesn't she look incredible with her hair down?) And as others have mentioned, a few hundred comics back Bubbles explained how she uses a special solution to grow hair, and over time she has slowly changed her hairstyle from combat-ready to more casual.

And of course, there's enough inconsistency, illogic, and such a wide range of personalities to keep things pretty "real" -- the real universe and real people don't make a lot of sense sometimes, and the QC-verse is also messy enough to be endlessly interesting and believable.

I also love how Jeph has pulled off one of the toughest writing feats ever -- making believable intelligences who aren't us. They're derived from us, sure, but they have their own points of views, their own emotional lives, and their own bizarre senses of humor.

I could go on. And on. Man, could I go on.

It's all drawn me in to the story and I'm invested to a degree I didn't expect. Faye finally figuring things out and making her "leap" hit me so frickin' hard.

This is a lot more than a good webcomic -- this is great writing, great art, and a great story.

I can't wait to see where it goes next.

Now, back to lurking...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 20 May 2018, 17:46
If QC were adapted into a "kid friendly" animated series, how would you like to see the cast portrayed?

cartoony humans    41 (36.6%)
an assortment of anthropomorphic animals    35 (31.3%)
cutesy monsters    15 (13.4%)
anthropomorphic cats    8 (7.1%)
anthropomorphic ducks    5 (4.5%)
anthropomorphic reptiles    5 (4.5%)
anthropomorphic dogs    2 (1.8%)
anthropomorphic mice    1 (0.9%)

Total Members Voted: 79
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 May 2018, 18:30
Welcome, not really new person, and do feel free to keep posting if you want.

I agree entirely. Bubbles is drawn and developed and given dialog that is engaging and proof the artist has Mad Skillz. I am constantly wanting to see her character explored more.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 18:35

I interpreted Faye's smile, upon recalling Bubbles saying she was beautiful, as simply being happy that someone thinks she is beautiful, when she has long thought of herself as less than so. Lots of girls tell each other they're beautiful without any romantic intentions, so Faye may not have inferred any romance in Bubbles' comment either.

But...she blushed...what does that tell you?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 18:38
(http://i.imgur.com/lt4OZbl.png) (https://imgur.com/lt4OZbl)


None of us imagined how things would end up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 May 2018, 18:47

I interpreted Faye's smile, upon recalling Bubbles saying she was beautiful, as simply being happy that someone thinks she is beautiful, when she has long thought of herself as less than so. Lots of girls tell each other they're beautiful without any romantic intentions, so Faye may not have inferred any romance in Bubbles' comment either.

But...she blushed...what does that tell you?

I missed that! It was subtle but unmistakable once it's pointed out.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 20 May 2018, 19:18
I'm reasonably sure that this was discussed at the time, but blushing does not necessarily imply romantic thoughts (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1699).

It does tell me that Faye was deeply flattered at being thought to be attractive.

It's reasonable to assume that the exchange was a part of their growing attachment to each other.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 20 May 2018, 19:37

I interpreted Faye's smile, upon recalling Bubbles saying she was beautiful, as simply being happy that someone thinks she is beautiful, when she has long thought of herself as less than so. Lots of girls tell each other they're beautiful without any romantic intentions, so Faye may not have inferred any romance in Bubbles' comment either.

But...she blushed...what does that tell you?
Her blushing doesn't really tell me much of anything. If someone unexpectedly said I was attractive, I'd blush too. It wouldn't matter if it was my best friend, or a woman I'm attracted to, or my own mother (yes, she has said it, and yes, I did blush). In my own experience, it's the unexpectedness of the remark - and not knowing how to respond - that inspires the blushing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 19:49
I don't know. The expression on her face, the blushing, the fact that she took the time to imagine Bubbles yet again, makes me think...yeah, there was more there.

We never really saw Bubbles imagining Faye. She said "I had accepted that I would never be able to act on my feelings," so maybe it was easier for her to just not do it, it would only feel worse because she couldn't be with Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 20 May 2018, 19:58
We never really saw Bubbles imagining Faye. She said "I had accepted that I would never be able to act on my feelings," so maybe it was easier for her to just not do it, it would only feel worse because she couldn't be with Faye.
True, we didn't see her imagining Faye, but she did make a couple comments that gave a pretty good indication that she was indeed thinking about her, even if she tried not to. I can relate... thinking about someone you'd love to have a relationship with, but being pretty sure it's just not feasible. You try not to think about them, but sometimes those thoughts just pop in there.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 20 May 2018, 20:11
I don't know. The expression on her face, the blushing, the fact that she took the time to imagine Bubbles yet again, makes me think...yeah, there was more there.

We never really saw Bubbles imagining Faye. She said "I had accepted that I would never be able to act on my feelings," so maybe it was easier for her to just not do it, it would only feel worse because she couldn't be with Faye.

Upon looking back with 20/20 vision it is easy to say it was a precursor to their current entanglement but at the time it could have meant anything.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 20:12
I think Bubbles was trying not to think about Faye that way. I said that if the kissing was a fantasy, it was Faye's and not Bubbles' because Bubbles simply wouldn't have fantasies like that, or would try really hard not to.

Honestly this really could have gone any way. It really WAS looking like Faye was not interested in Bubbles at all. Right up until they were about to kiss. All of the "just friends" people had a point, in my mind, even I was thinking it wasn't going to happen.

It was so beautiful in a way, because in real life, when it seems like it isn't going to happen, it usually doesn't.

Once the shoulder rub incident happened it did seem possible, for the first time, really. But none of us knew. I'm just glad it ended up the way it did. And that I don't have to register a new username...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 20:14

Upon looking back with 20/20 vision it is easy to say it was a precursor to their current entanglement but at the time it could have meant anything.

At the time it happened, without knowing what would happen next, I honestly did think it was a sign that Faye had caught feelings.

It's one thing to blush at an unexpected compliment, as Faye did at the time, but another to replay it in your mind while in bed, while half asleep, with your guard down. Thinking about someone while you're in bed might mean you wish they were in your bed with you.

It would be pretty gnarly for me to fantasize about someone while they're in the room.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 20 May 2018, 20:17

Upon looking back with 20/20 vision it is easy to say it was a precursor to their current entanglement but at the time it could have meant anything.

At the time it happened, without knowing what would happen next, I honestly did think it was a sign that Faye had caught feelings.


So did I if I'm being honest but it could have meant anything.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 20 May 2018, 20:20
Closing your eyes, smiling and blushing like that usually means you have feelings for the person you're imagining. Faye wasn't able to accept it yet. After her sister visited and said things, she had another moment, then said "it can't be." At that time she realized she had feelings.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 20 May 2018, 20:56
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3589

This is when people should have realized that Faye didn't just like Bubbles in a friend way.

"But friendship is sacred and romance is lower form of love!"  :roll:

I'd just like to say that all of these sarcastic asides casting shade on those who were happy with Bubbles and Faye enjoying a close friendship are getting a touch tiresome. I personally am genuinely pleased for Bubbles and Faye as well as those who got the outcome they wished for, but is this continued gloating really necessary?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 20 May 2018, 21:32
Closing your eyes, smiling and blushing like that usually means you have feelings for the person you're imagining. Faye wasn't able to accept it yet. After her sister visited and said things, she had another moment, then said "it can't be." At that time she realized she had feelings.
Again, I had read that differently. I thought that Faye suddenly realized what Amanda had been trying to say back at the diner. But her "it can't be" was because she still didn't see it that way. I honestly don't think Faye consciously knew there was anything there until the backrub moment, when she suddenly looked back with 20/20 hindsight, and realized that all those subtle little hints had been pointing to something real all along, and not just her imagination running amok.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 20 May 2018, 21:54
I normally don't post on the forums. But I felt compelled to register at this Bubbles/Faye turn of events because we talking about a robot/human pairing. Jeph is normally pretty smart about this sort of thing so I hope he's worked out the science behind this arc or I'm going to be really disappointed.

When you eliminate all the romanticized nonsense behind human coupling, the bottom line is that humans are driven to pair up because of hormonal and chemical influence. It is literally a biological physical need for oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin, endorphins, and other mood stabilizing chemicals that produces the pain and longing we feel when we are lacking physical affection. Faye I can understand because she hasn't gotten laid in months and really isn't all that affectionate with her circle of friends. She is touch starved and her body is responding to any physical stimulus.

Bubbles on the other hand is a machine. A sentient and sapient machine with an artificial, humanlike consciousness to be certain, but a machine nonetheless. She has no biological needs, because she is not a biological being. What logic processes are being satisfied by this interaction and why do those processes exist in the first place? This is not a matter of "just feeling it" because feelings are tied directly to the physical body through the chemicals that are produced during moments of intense emotion, and you can't have emotion without internal biological organs. So outside of a bunch of algorithms designed to mimic or present a simulacrum of human emotion, even with a humanlike consciousness, a machine can not feel the same way a human does. So what is Bubbles getting out of her relationship with Faye turning physical?

The narrative needs to address the science in some way because right now it feels like lazy fan-fiction.

Sorry, I came to this a little late, but I felt it necessary to address.  I have one thing to say;

1658. 

Yes, the single most linked comic in the forum (which is why I didn't bother, the mere number is enough). 

And at the bottom is Jeph's entire explanation of what Bubbles gets out of it, and I quote: 

"No one is quite sure who decided it would be useful for artificial intelligences to possess libidos, but it is generally agreed that it would be more trouble than it is worth to remove it. Besides, the horny little buggers would revolt."

Jeph has been able to write fantastically believable AI by doing just this - it's a wave of the hand, a non-explanation treated as fact.  And it works.  We don't know how these "horny little buggers" came about or how they work, but like the two facebook bots that were developing their own language, we don't need to understand it to know that it happened.  It's fact. 

Now, it's true that libido could be a liability for a combat bot, s it can be for a soldier.  That's part of military training, though.  I doubt it's actually non-existant, but in Bubbles' case I'm sure - along with many other emotions - it's been pushed way, way down. 



It's good to see her able to feel again.  Perhaps for the first time. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 21 May 2018, 11:57
Now, it's true that libido could be a liability for a combat bot, s it can be for a soldier.  That's part of military training, though.  I doubt it's actually non-existant, but in Bubbles' case I'm sure - along with many other emotions - it's been pushed way, way down. 
Having spent what was at the time 1/5th of my life in the military, I feel qualified to say that trying to push down a GI's libido is a fool's errand (not that there aren't fools willing to make the attempt).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 21 May 2018, 12:06

I'd just like to say that all of these sarcastic asides casting shade on those who were happy with Bubbles and Faye enjoying a close friendship are getting a touch tiresome. I personally am genuinely pleased for Bubbles and Faye as well as those who got the outcome they wished for, but is this continued gloating really necessary?


I’m sorry but...a little?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 21 May 2018, 16:01
Well, thanks for your honesty. Welcome to my ignore list.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 21 May 2018, 16:55
Oh wow. Yikes. It’s like that? I thought we were cool...

I don’t think this is something to block people over? I’m not trying to fight with anyone here.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Morituri on 21 May 2018, 17:28
Reading a story isn't a competitive event.  Pretending to have  "won"  is  ugly and dumb.  A spot on a block list shouldn't be a surprise if you go so far as to treat someone badly about it.

I'm happy to see the ship get launched.  Honestly, I am.  It's a nice moment for these two characters, and has some warm fuzzies attached.  But it got really tedious in here with people declaring that they wanted it to happen, or it had to happen, or they'd be mad if it didn't happen, instead of having the common respect to just wait for the artist to tell the story before feelings of vast entitlement made them feel like they had a right to demand that the artist give them a particular story. 

And treating the start of a romantic relationship as a resolution of anything doesn't work either.  What happened without conflict isn't resolution, it's progression.  The ship getting launched is either part of the "happily ever after" coda from the Corpse Witch story - although it comes a bit too long after it for that to really work -  or part of the setup of a new story. Either way, it's a minor event in terms of story plotting, however nice it is for the characters.


Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 21 May 2018, 18:19
I agree with all of this. I think it has been one of Jeph's better stories. Watching Bubbles open up has been satisfying, as well as Faye's gradual realisation that she does indeed love Bubbles. Now they face significant challenge as they navigate a new relationship while both living and working with each other. It will be interesting to see it unfold.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 May 2018, 18:19
Global Moderator Comment I'm worried this is heading toward getting personal. It's Just A Comic. It's a remarkably good one, especially now, but when you list things to get bent out of shape over, QC should not be on the list.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Tova on 21 May 2018, 18:22
Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not as bent out of shape as you're perhaps thinking. I've just chosen to stop reading posts I'm no longer interested in seeing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 21 May 2018, 19:50
I think blocking me is a little much. Especially when I haven’t been intentionally gloating or anything. I was being tongue in cheek but now I’m blocked by someone. Jeez.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: Shjade on 21 May 2018, 23:28
I think blocking me is a little much. Especially when I haven’t been intentionally gloating or anything.

You literally responded to the question "is gloating necessary" in the affirmative. Unless that was an accident, I'm not sure how to interpret it as anything but intentional.

If it were me, and I asked if people felt doing a thing that was getting on my nerves was necessary, I'd feel okay about blocking anyone who said "yes," too. Because they evidently feel it's necessary, so they're going to do it - or keep doing it, as the case may be - and I don't want to see it anymore, so the only solution for me to not see it is to block/ignore them.

It's nothing personal. It's just logical.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 May 2018, 00:35
Global Moderator Comment I removed a post which amounted to encouragement to continue bad behaviour. Since this thread is last week's in any case, and is no longer constructively discussing the comic, I think it's time to close it.