THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: BenRG on 20 May 2018, 14:52
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So, with the events of last week, I think that we are in a position to certainly say that one arc is at an end and we can be sure a new arc will be beginning this new week. However, what will it be about? I've tried to cover as many bases as possible but I'm sure I've missed some possibilities.
Personally, as well as Bubbles and Faye talking self-consciously about where they go next, I'm wondering if Jeph will add some drama. To me, this new couple gives him a chance to write a parable about the trials experienced by couples in minority groups. So, I'm wondering if we might see the first hints of some people (possibly including some previously-seen background characters) being less than thrilled.
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I think we're going to go to a completely different group of characters from here, possibly Brun and Clinton's arc, while Faye and Bubbles go and have some conversations using words and other things. We'll come back to them later for the conversation that follows.
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I voted for Melon. I always vote for Melon. She's just so damn adorable! Sure, she's clueless, and things don't often go her way, but nothing gets to her either.
But I also have a feeling that it's about time to dig a little deeper into the Clinton/Brun/Elliot triangle of confusion.
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Comic!
Pintsize chose... wisely.
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
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I'm guessing Melon started the game with that big pile of chips as a beginner's handicap.
Either that or she just steals from everyone else's piles, and no one cares because they're tallying the scores in their heads anyway.
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Even Melon knows that would be ridiculous.
Like a totally normal person, she is eating chips.
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I've been following QC since about 2004, this is the first time I've registered to do more than lurk around...
Just gotta say, I've been following the whole Bubbles and Faye thing with bated breath, lol. I find that decent storylines with two folks of the female persuasion are still pretty hard to come by. And yes, I have been on the Dora and Tai ship for as long as it has sailed.. but the Faye/Bubbles thing struck me closer to home since I identify very strongly with both characters, being a large, mouthy, unusually strong, PTSD-coping, lesbian-leaning-demi-sexual lady (that takes forever to build and recognize romantic wants) personally.
Guess I just wanted to de-lurk and say bravo Jeph. And that I hope we get at least another comic or two with Bubbles and Faye before we move on to the next story arc because I really want to see the resolution of "yep we have caught The Feels". (And I genuinely mean that in a not-perverse way.)
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If Monday's comic isn't a homage to this scene... :)
This would be a perfect ending point for QC right here... The small offensive robot's work is done, it's time to relax.
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Also hi-i-new-longtime-reader-lurker-of-forum.
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Translation: Pintsize isnt going to mess with two of the three people who’ve caused him serious physical harm.
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Well, it's not Steve eating cereal, but I think it might as well be.
Could be an arc of its own, but I'm pretty sure it's a pause for Jeph before diving further into ... anything.
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Welcome, new people!
It's a kind of coda, I guess, before we head into... who knows what.
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
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I was sort of wondering how he was going to top the boot on the door and the sound-canceling headphones (Faye/Angus).
Pintsize.
Shuts.
Up.
Never saw THAT coming!
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I agree it's probably just a dramatic "pause". It sort of conveniently gets Pintsize out of the way back at the apartment and we already know Marten was at the library, only Claire is "unknown" in location but that's easy enough to deal with.
Plus Jeph is just a big fat troll sometimes so we should expect this kind of "dramatic draw out" after already leaving it over the weekend, lol....
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
Maybe she just has some crackers behind her humongous pile of chips.
Whaddya wanna bet that tomorrow we shift back to Bubbles and Faye looking... aftermathy?
Edit: And hey, isn't this the first time we've seen PT410X for, oh, an eon and a half or so?
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Even Melon knows that would be ridiculous.
Like a totally normal person, she is eating chips.
Look closer... that's definitely a card in her mouth.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
As someone on Patreon pointed out, all of Melon's chips are a completely different colour from everyone else's. So is she even playing the same game? I get the idea that she makes up the rules - and a lot of other things - as she goes.
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I know Jeph admitted it's a typo, but I can actually picture Pintsize saying "expistence". As in "ex-pissed-ence".
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
Maybe she just has some crackers behind her humongous pile of chips.
Whaddya wanna bet that tomorrow we shift back to Bubbles and Faye looking... aftermathy?
Edit: And hey, isn't this the first time we've seen PT410X for, oh, an eon and a half or so?
I love all of Jeph's afterglow scenes and we have had some doozies.
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If Monday's comic isn't a homage to this scene... :)
This would be a perfect ending point for QC right here... The small offensive robot's work is done, it's time to relax.
It's more similar to this one from the _Dogs Playing Poker_ series.
(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/mf_image_16x9/public/345eyrhfj.png?itok=35gvnyvU&resize=1100x619)
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Love the cute little dapper bowler hat
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Love the cute little dapper bowler hat
Who is that in the bowler? (Looks like an old mate of Pintsize's from an earlier era, but I'm not remembering anyone specific.) And who's the purple hair to Bowler's left?
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
Eating, or sneaking a better card out of her mouth while Pintsize's arrival hopefully distracts everyone?
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I like the idea that Melon has the largest pile of chips because she is completely unreadable.
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Ha! Can't believe I didn't notice that. Wait - how is she winning by so much if she's being eating her cards?
Eating, or sneaking a better card out of her mouth while Pintsize's arrival hopefully distracts everyone?
She draws bad cards, eats them, then draws better cards to replace the ones she ate.
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Love the cute little dapper bowler hat
Who is that in the bowler? (Looks like an old mate of Pintsize's from an earlier era, but I'm not remembering anyone specific.) And who's the purple hair to Bowler's left?
I looked back through the archive, and couldn't find any other anthroPCs that colour. This one has a white torso with a dark blue head and limbs. Someone on Patreon suggested it might have been the one at the LanPark who had been complaining about the awful paintjob and body work their owner had inflicted upon them, but that one was bright green with blue limbs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=122). There was a blue anthro at Pintsize's housewarming party (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=428), but it was bright blue with white limbs. Then at the set-up for the VespAvenger (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=739), there was one with dark blue head and torso, and black limbs, and another one with white head and torso, and dark blue limbs. So far, I'm coming up empty on an exact match.
The one with the purple hair might be the girl from the AI support group (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3578). The hair and skin are the right colours.
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Love the cute little dapper bowler hat
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2189
Yeeessss, the little haaaat.
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A theory about this comic:
Pintsize chose today to "exercise basic decorum" because he knows faybles is happening, and chose to vacate the apartment by going to play poker, because he wants his friends to be happy but admitting as much would ruin his image as an irredeemable asshole.
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A theory about this comic:
Pintsize chose today to "exercise basic decorum" because he knows faybles is happening, and chose to vacate the apartment by going to play poker, because he wants his friends to be happy but admitting as much would ruin his image as an irredeemable asshole.
I theorized that he claimed to "exercise basic decorum" because he didn't want to admit that he was merely vacating the apartment out of basic self-preservation. He knows he likes to run his mouth, and he knows that with Faye and Bubbles as a united front, he wouldn't stand much chance of survival.
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Yeah, it was either poker or the freezer again. Potentially, whether he opened his mouth or not.
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Yeah, it was either poker or the freezer again. Potentially, whether he opened his mouth or not.
I think it would have been the freezer if he didn't open his mouth. Much worse if he did.
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I've been following QC since about 2004, this is the first time I've registered to do more than lurk around...
Just gotta say, I've been following the whole Bubbles and Faye thing with bated breath, lol. I find that decent storylines with two folks of the female persuasion are still pretty hard to come by. And yes, I have been on the Dora and Tai ship for as long as it has sailed.. but the Faye/Bubbles thing struck me closer to home since I identify very strongly with both characters, being a large, mouthy, unusually strong, PTSD-coping, lesbian-leaning-demi-sexual lady (that takes forever to build and recognize romantic wants) personally.
Guess I just wanted to de-lurk and say bravo Jeph. And that I hope we get at least another comic or two with Bubbles and Faye before we move on to the next story arc because I really want to see the resolution of "yep we have caught The Feels". (And I genuinely mean that in a not-perverse way.)
Welcome, new person!
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Welcome, all new people that I didn't greet individually!
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Like most people, I'm assuming that Pintsize took one look at how Faye and Bubbles were looking at each other when they came home and came to the following conclusions:
- They're about to have sex;
- I'm not going to be able to restrain myself from giving off-colour commentary;
- If I do that, Faye will rip me apart and Bubbles will stomp the remains into powder and sheet metal;
- Ergo, it's a healthy time to finally find out what PT410x and the other losers do at this 'poker night' they're always inviting me to attend.
Meanwhile, I have my suspicions that Melon has no idea what she's doing and is winning purely by blind chance.
I'm serious. Anyone remember that probability thought experiment about how, if you gave a monkey a keyboard and infinite time, it would eventually type out the script of Hamlet simply by pressing keys in a random order? I suspect that something similar is happening with Melon here: She's just acting randomly but, by blind chance, these random actions are game-winning moves. However, she doesn't know that and, indeed, is still trying to work out what the cardboard tiles she's holding are. I suspect that she'll start eating the chips too soon because her research shows that is what one does with chips.
Meanwhile, IIRC, PT410x is a bit of a radical AI liberation believer and is no great fan of humanity. I'm wondering if he won't be happy at the thought of a synthetic being in an intimate relationship with one of her 'oppressors'.
I agree it's probably just a dramatic "pause". It sort of conveniently gets Pintsize out of the way back at the apartment and we already know Marten was at the library, only Claire is "unknown" in location but that's easy enough to deal with.
Given that it's at some point during the working day, I'm assuming that Claire is still at classes or doing her TA duties. The Clareaction will occur after a few hours when she comes home and finds one of Faye's socks on her and Bubbles' bedroom door.
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I see this strip as Jeph basically telling us that [in tts voice]ｔｈｅｙ ｓｍａｓｈｉｎ＇ but this comic isn't the time or the place to show us, and also gives us some quality Pintsize content. I wonder if we'll see a couple more strips of this before turning back to our favorite couple.
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... However, she doesn't know that and, indeed, is still trying to work out what the cardboard tiles she's holding are. I suspect that she'll start eating the chips too soon because her research shows that is what one does with chips.
Or maybe she just likes the taste of pasteboard. After all, we did see her eat a cereal box (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3692).
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just to make sure I am getting this; the basic decorum Pintsize is showing is to give Faye and Bubbles some privacy, right? So today is still about Fay and Bubbles... Just in a very respectful way. Way to go Pintsize!
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As someone on Patreon pointed out, all of Melon's chips are a completely different colour from everyone else's. So is she even playing the same game? I get the idea that she makes up the rules - and a lot of other things - as she goes.
Another great little detail that I didn't notice. So did Melon just bring along a pile of her own poker chips to stack in front of her then? I can believe that she's playing a different game to everyone else - that definitely seems like something Melon would do.
As far as Pintsize is concerned, I think PT410x said it all really - "Wonders never cease!"
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Even Melon knows that would be ridiculous.
Like a totally normal person, she is eating chips.
If you look carefully, you can see the same two overlapping circles as on the back of the deck of cards.
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As an interesting thought, Pintsize generally doesn't, strictly speaking, lie. He also has an uncanny ability to provide the cast with assistance while making it seem like he's being a jerk-ass to them. Remember, he's the one who pointed Faye to the fight ring in the first place. Good does not always equal nice.
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And of course Melon is eating her cards.
Even Melon knows that would be ridiculous.
Like a totally normal person, she is eating chips.
If you look carefully, you can see the same two overlapping circles as on the back of the deck of cards.
Yeah, I know I know.
*sigh*
Sometimes reality just does not respect a good pun.
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This strip, like Pintsize, has layers.
A nice button on faybles actually happens arc.
It's fun to see PTX again, and is that Roko in the back?
Some of these AIs we know, and some of they may have Opinions about Faybles or other AI:Human romances. But immediately after the happy conclusion may not be the best time to bring them up.
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FWIW, I am convinced that Pintsize will get talking about why being out of the apartment is good for his health. I'm expecting some manner of debate amongst the synthetics about the significance (or lack thereof) of these turn of events. Melon and Roko's presence, IMO, probably means that it is going to lead to at least one of the two of them raising the issue of Clinton.
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Roko's skin is lavender; the purple-haired AI is pink-skinned. Plus, pretty sure Roko would have let out a shriek on seeing Pintsize.
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I too am curious about how AIs will react. Faye's friends are going to know how utterly wonderful this is for her and Bubbles's non-Faye friends are almost non-existent. Hannelore had a "Eww" reaction to her robot boyfriend but knows the world well enough to understand that what squicks her can be wonderful for another.
The AIs react like humans to most things and it's reasonable to expect some AIs outside their circle of friends to react like humans have all too often reacted to interracial marriages.
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Faybles would IRL have the double whammy of AI (assuming they exist in real life) and human, as well as being a same gender couple. In the comic universe everyone seems almost completely accepting of LGBTQ hopefully they are just as accepting of intersentient being relationships.
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I too am curious about how AIs will react. Faye's friends are going to know how utterly wonderful this is for her and Bubbles's non-Faye friends are almost non-existent. Hannelore had a "Eww" reaction to her robot boyfriend but knows the world well enough to understand that what squicks her can be wonderful for another.
The AIs react like humans to most things and it's reasonable to expect some AIs outside their circle of friends to react like humans have all too often reacted to interracial marriages.
I'm not sure if it's entirely fair to use the reactions (Hanners' and others') to the robot BF that Hanners' dad sent her as a frame of reference. It is obvious that technology has come a very, very long way since that uncanny valley skeleton that Winslow briefly tried out, and based on everything we have seen since then it seems that the current humanoid AIs are quite close to humans at least appearance/behavior wise. That said, that's exactly why I do agree with your last statement, since therefore the AIs might be just as prone to human flaws such as bigotry/racism/etc.
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*waves* I'm not technically new, as I've been reading since late 2003 (when a wise friend posted a link to QC with the note "I think I just found my new favourite webcomic!"), and I joined the forum about the time Faye was hospitalised. I haven't really posted since then, and I don't even lurk that often, but the comic has taken such an interesting turn recently that I decided to, um, de-de-lurk for a bit?
I don't have much interesting to contribute at the moment, as others have made far more insightful and articulate comments on the current in-comic events than I could. I suppose I just felt the need to pop in and say: "Wow." What's interesting to me is that I was never a Faye/Bubbles shipper. While their relationship was developing, I actually stuck to the hope that they would NOT form a romantic partnership, because I preferred the idea of a rich, meaningful, mutually supportive, platonic friendship.
The last few strips have changed my mind though. Not, I hasten to add, because I find recent events particularly hot or sexy (such things usually leave me pretty cold), but because it's such a great representation of the (true) notion that we don't usually choose who we fall in love with. To me, lust is a consequence of love, rather than the other way around. However attractive I find someone, I have never felt genuine physical passion until I was already in an established relationship with that person, and had come to recognise them as someone truly special, mentally and emotionally.
So to me, it was suddenly logical, because I realised that Faye and Bubbles have spent a long time building up a real and wonderful connection. Of course, there was no rule that it had to culminate in romance, but it makes a lot of sense to me now that it has. Looking forward to seeing where this next step leads them. (Hoping it's to happy places, because they've both put in real effort to change themselves and their lives positively, and that doesn't come easy.)
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I was sort of wondering how he was going to top the boot on the door and the sound-canceling headphones (Faye/Angus).
Pintsize.
Shuts.
Up.
Never saw THAT coming!
A good author always knows how to throw his readers a curve ball.
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Given the pile of chips, I think Melon must be marking the cards with her teeth or whatever she has there, maybe in Braille.
I'f forgotten about the hats being an Anthro-PC fashion statement. (What's the difference between a bowler and a derby, anyhow? I'm more inclined to fedoras and their variants.) I agree, that's probably not Roko. Even though Pintsize says he intends to be on his best behavior, he'd have brought a ciabatta just in case (easier to conceal than a baguette).
This strip reinforces one thing - there's an AI social network that isn't always apparent to organics, both in strip and out (that being us).
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I don't think there is much difference. I've always thought of a Derby as having a slight 'dent' in the top, and a bowler not having a dent, but google tells me I'm wrong on that front.
If someone says "Bob was wearing a Derby," I think of a slightly more devil-may-care character than someone wearing a bowler. I also think of a Derby as the type of hat that you could potentially tie a cravat around, if you wanted, whereas a bowler hat you would leave well alone, unless you wanted to be arrested by the hat police of late 19th-century Britain. Um, just my impressions. As you may have gathered, I know nothing of hats.
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I think what you are thinking of as a Derby is actually a Homburg, the difference between a Bowler and a Derby is the Bowler is British and the Derby is American.
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I just googled 'Homburg' and you are exactly right! The hat I thought of as a Derby is actually a Homburg. The most informative article I came across (in my very brief googling) also showed men sitting side by side, wearing basically identical hats. (Without 'dents'). It was the hat I've always thought of as a bowler, but the same hat was described as a Derby in America. Who would've thought hats could be so fascinating ('scuse the pun). I'm not being sarcastic there by the way. It's genuinely interesting stuff. And I learned something today.
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This strip reinforces one thing - there's an AI social network that isn't always apparent to organics, both in strip and out (that being us).
IIRC, they can communicate online and probably have a constant "real-life forum" running in their background consciousness. Or at least, they can. They can probably log out to avoid trolling, and some may never even establish an account.
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Yeah, there's a huge difference between "I met a synthetic person!" and "My dad sent me an empty chassis!"
...It *was* empty, right? Was Mr. E.C. expecting Hanners to date Winslow?
I'm pretty certain that the Robot Boyfriend would have used a simpler, non-sapient operating system with the option of installing an AI, should the need be felt.
Even assuming my own personal theory on the origin of the AIs isn't true, I'm pretty sure Hannerdad saw this sort of thing coming. :-D
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I think what you are thinking of as a Derby is actually a Homburg, the difference between a Bowler and a Derby is the Bowler is British and the Derby is American.
I'll buy that. I was thinking a bowler if it was on an English banker or butler and a derby if it was on a working class noggin.
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I just googled 'Homburg' and you are exactly right! The hat I thought of as a Derby is actually a Homburg. The most informative article I came across (in my very brief googling) also showed men sitting side by side, wearing basically identical hats. (Without 'dents'). It was the hat I've always thought of as a bowler, but the same hat was described as a Derby in America. Who would've thought hats could be so fascinating ('scuse the pun). I'm not being sarcastic there by the way. It's genuinely interesting stuff. And I learned something today.
I myself wear a Porkpie most of the time and a Trilby occasionally though having wide shoulders I should wear a wider brim hat such as a Fedora but I can't get one locally that I like.
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Pintsize claims it’s decorum, but self preservation is most likely. Faye and Bubbles to be certain, but if Spookybot is playing Cupid you definitely want to avoid screwing with them.
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No butler would wear a hat, unless required by the protocol of a specific occasion.
As for a porkpie, I suppose that's one more hat type that I need to educate myself on. I think of a porkpie as a bowler/derby that's been stamped on by someone with an appreciation for symmetry?
(ETA: spelling)
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Yeah kinda
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... However, she doesn't know that and, indeed, is still trying to work out what the cardboard tiles she's holding are. I suspect that she'll start eating the chips too soon because her research shows that is what one does with chips.
Or maybe she just likes the taste of pasteboard. After all, we did see her eat a cereal box (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3692).
My theory is that Melon is an experimental AI model, whose energy source is derived from the chemical breakdown of one of the most bulky forms of waste, namely cardboard packaging.... :-D
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I remember an experiment from decades ago in which one group of rats was fed cardboard and the other group got commercial breakfast cereal.
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it was an unaired mythbusters episode that ended exceptionally poorly. (https://youtu.be/ziQWDnFSPt8)
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Roko's skin is lavender; the purple-haired AI is pink-skinned. Plus, pretty sure Roko would have let out a shriek on seeing Pintsize.
Also Roko's hair is magenta, not purple.
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Comic.
Damn right, Bubbles.
"Gotcha".
P.S. The bed is fine, folks. I know we were worried!
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Somehow it never occurred to me that the dark red unitard thing was actually something Bubs could remove, lol. I mean, she's worn some (questionable-fashion-sense) shorts and stuff over it, but also typically doesn't wear anything over it. Got a question I never knew I had answered.
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I'm sorry but in it's simplicity, the top panel is one of the finest things Jeph has ever done. Beautiful.
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Say it with me everyone.
Best page ever! Best page ever! Best page ever! :D
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I approve of everything at the moment.
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I am enjoying the physical intimacy while we get it, but I am also looking forward to the inevitable deeper emotional intimacy.
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Bubbles is the biggest spoon.
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Can anyone pinpoint when Bubbles’ feelings changed? It’s definitely been awhile...
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I am enjoying the physical intimacy while we get it, but I am also looking forward to the inevitable deeper emotional intimacy.
I think that came first.
We knew about Faye's body warmth from Tai. Why does Bubbles stay warm when she's not exercising? Is there a heater she can turn on for situations like helping squadmates with cold weather survival? If so it was a good gesture to turn it on before naked contact with an organic.
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Can anyone pinpoint when Bubbles’ feelings changed? It’s definitely been awhile...
Bubbles herself said she could not be precise.
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So Bubbles’s “hip joints” and “arm joints” were just lines in her unitard...
Edit: And also: SQUEEEEEE!
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Comic.
Damn right, Bubbles.
"Gotcha".
P.S. The bed is fine, folks. I know we were worried!
We zoom back and see the ruined bed, mattress lying on the wreckage...
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Can anyone pinpoint when Bubbles’ feelings changed? It’s definitely been awhile...
Assam tea?
Nevermind.
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
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I am enjoying the physical intimacy while we get it, but I am also looking forward to the inevitable deeper emotional intimacy.
I think that came first.
We knew about Faye's body warmth from Tai. Why does Bubbles stay warm when she's not exercising? Is there a heater she can turn on for situations like helping squadmates with cold weather survival? If so it was a good gesture to turn it on before naked contact with an organic.
It's been addressed in a prior comic (I stink at finding the specific ones). It was when Faye and Bubbles were walking together, and during the course of the conversation Bubbles stated that her only "waste product" was heat.
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And Faye snuggled up to her and said “you are warm!” and Bubbles blushed. Bubbles is so blushy that I can’t tell when she started blushing because she had feelings for Faye.
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Can anyone pinpoint when Bubbles’ feelings changed? It’s definitely been awhile...
The seeds of it may have been planted here. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3197)
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
It's perfectly natural to be curious. I'm curious, too. But I suspect Jeph will treat it much the same as he does Marten and Claire's sex life; the canonical answer is "mind your business". And that's probably for the best.
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Well you're going to have some indication of what happened when Marten asks:
Either they blush, talk about emotional intimacy, Bubbles hugs Faye around the shoulders while Faye hugs Bubbles around the waist...
Or booty dancing.
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So Bubbles’s “hip joints” and “arm joints” were just lines in her unitard...
Edit: And also: SQUEEEEEE!
I admit I did wonder about that myself.
Also I concur, squee indeed *nod*
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Or booty dancing.
Bubbles' booty dance involves a hip check that shatters the door frame.
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In fact, I'd bet that bubbles doesn't know how to dance and that hip check will be the whole thing.
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I'm sorry but in it's simplicity, the top panel is one of the finest things Jeph has ever done. Beautiful.
Can't agree more.
I think this comic handles the topic of physical (and emotional) intimacy exceptionally well!
The Faybles story-arc is one of the, if not THE most satisfying and/or rewarding arc QC has ever had.
In my opinion at least.
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Concentric lady hips! So good.
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to ask - or if it's even kosher to do so - just exactly how, um...anatomically correct Bubs is underneath all the armor and stuff. Why would a combat droid even need to be anatomically correct, anyway?
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I don't really think anatomy matters.
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I'm willing to bet that everybody is jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Both Faye and Bubbles admitted they had no idea what they were doing.
I bet nothing happened except one big spooning session.
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I'm willing to bet that everybody is jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Both Faye and Bubbles admitted they had no idea what they were doing.
I bet nothing happened except one big spooning session.
I am willing to put a significant sum of money that "I have no idea what I'm doing" is the most common thing a person will say before losing their virginity.
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With as passionate as they were before leaving Union Robotics I very much doubt all they did was spoon.
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
It's perfectly natural to be curious. I'm curious, too. But I suspect Jeph will treat it much the same as he does Marten and Claire's sex life; the canonical answer is "mind your business". And that's probably for the best.
That's why God invented fanfics.
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So Bubbles’s “hip joints” and “arm joints” were just lines in her unitard...
Edit: And also: SQUEEEEEE!
Apparently so. I thought that the arms and legs could be detached like the head, but apparently Bubbles chassis is one piece. It seems impractical considering what damage she could sustain even with the armor, but maybe she doesn't need seams. It's probably an advanced form of robot flesh that can possibly cut into and sealed up without leaving a scar. If it was like going to bed with a life size Stretch Armstrong Faye wouldn't be glowing that much.
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I don't really think anatomy matters.
No, of course, it doesn't...but it could be useful to know what the potential limits to the physicality of the relationship might be.
On a slight tangent, something I've been moved to almost comment on several times of late...has anyone else noticed that, as this arc has developed, Jeph's depiction of Bubs seems to have softened considerably, giving her more noticeably human-like anatomy and characteristics?
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I don't really think anatomy matters.
No, of course, it doesn't...but it could be useful to know what the potential limits to the physicality of the relationship might be.
On a slight tangent, something I've been moved to almost comment on several times of late...has anyone else noticed that, as this arc has developed, Jeph's depiction of Bubs seems to have softened considerably, giving her more noticeably human-like anatomy and characteristics?
The only things I noticed were the hair and facial expressions(mostly blushes), both (I think) could be reasonably accomodated by Bubbles' development post Corpse Witch
I understand the development of a feminine shape to Bubbles, uncanny valley et al. but the presence of anything more detailed than the macro shape worries me.
[edit] Dyslexia attack [/edit]
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I'm willing to bet that everybody is jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Both Faye and Bubbles admitted they had no idea what they were doing.
I bet nothing happened except one big spooning session.
In support of that, their expressions don't strike me as afterglowish.
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
Yeah, I'm not sure I want to ask - or if it's even kosher to do so - just exactly how, um...anatomically correct Bubs is underneath all the armor and stuff. Why would a combat droid even need to be anatomically correct, anyway?
Now, we'll be able to reach some conclusions if we see a burned out USB cable on the floor the next morinng.
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No butler would wear a hat, unless required by the protocol of a specific occasion.
When going out? He most certainly would. Hats were very much an item of uniform and emblem of social rank in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, and photographs of the period rarely have UK men out and about bareheaded.
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No butler would wear a hat, unless required by the protocol of a specific occasion.
When going out? He most certainly would. Hats were very much an item of uniform and emblem of social rank in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, and photographs of the period rarely have UK men out and about bareheaded.
The ultimate point of reference for this... https://youtu.be/tk7pk58Bq4Q?t=4m13s
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The ultimate point of reference for this... https://youtu.be/tk7pk58Bq4Q?t=4m13s
And I think one of the "making Downton Abbey" segments spent several minutes on the topic.
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No butler would wear a hat, unless required by the protocol of a specific occasion.
When going out? He most certainly would. Hats were very much an item of uniform and emblem of social rank in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, and photographs of the period rarely have UK men out and about bareheaded.
The ultimate point of reference for this... https://youtu.be/tk7pk58Bq4Q?t=4m13s
I want to point out that Jeeves was Bertie Wooster's valet, not his butler. Though I am told that he could butle with the best of them.
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A valet he may be but most of us uncultured Americans are unaware of the difference probably because of Batman since Alfred is called a butler yet mostly acts like a valet.
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A valet he may be but most of us uncultured Americans are unaware of the difference probably because of Batman since Alfred is called a butler yet mostly acts like a valet.
If they served in the military, he could be Bruce Wayne's batman.
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I've got the feeling that we're already seeing some idea of the shape of Faye and Bubbles' future relationship. Faye is going to be slightly more anxious - more worried about mis-steps and how all of this will affect their friendship and happiness. Bubbles is going to be (almost surprisingly, given that she's the supposed humanoid computer) more likely to try to joke away the concern and trust in 'the power of love'. It will be interesting to see how these starting points are affected by events and others' reactions.
Meanwhile, I think we can confirm that what we've seen in earlier comics is confirmed: Faye has met her match in Bubbles' talent for snark and sass!
Apparently so. I thought that the arms and legs could be detached like the head, but apparently Bubbles chassis is one piece.
I'm not sure about that seam at the bottom of Bubbles' neck; all humanoid chasiss seem to like it no matter how smooth their other joints. It might just be Jeph's artistic short-hand for saying: "This person is a synthetic". However, after the 'FWEEEEE!', I'm suspecting that they're vents from the inside out. Remember, they don't seem to have nostrils and their mouths don't seem to have any connection to plumbing going deeper into their bodies so they must have some way to equalise pressures.
I'm willing to bet that everybody is jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Both Faye and Bubbles admitted they had no idea what they were doing.
I bet nothing happened except one big spooning session.
In support of that, their expressions don't strike me as afterglowish.
IMHO, they've started making out, stripped naked and were so fascinated by what they saw that they stopped the make out and have spent some time just exploring each other's bodies' contours and quirks. Not necessarily in a sexual way just... "Wow! So this is you, huh?"
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I am still comically new to these forums but as a fan of art museums the abstract nature of that first panel was brilliant. The comic was nice and classy and just that opening panel was like modern art.
And even though Bubbles is an AI I love how she clearly has a darker skin tone than Faye and that it's on display in panel 1. The color difference I mean. There are pieces of modern art about intercultural unity that aren't much more complicated than panel 1 visually.
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so Faye loves Robot D now
good to know
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There's a sticky about discussing private parts.
Noted, cheers.
I'll just accept that we know something's happening but we don't know what it is (do we, Mr. Jacques?)
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No Steve eating cereal. Not even a Toto reference
Jeph is out to personally troll me it seems
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That does make me wonder what Bubbles' favourite Toto song is. 8-)
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That does make me wonder what Bubbles' favourite Toto song is. 8-)
Exactly, we are missing important details, here.
Also
Meanwhile, I think we can confirm that what we've seen in earlier comics is confirmed: Faye has met her match in Bubbles' talent for snark and sass!
Clearly physically as well.
Faye isn't exactly petite. I don't think Sven or Angus deadlifted her in the air for kisses
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I have only one comment on today's comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3747): Parallel curves...
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I'm willing to bet that everybody is jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Both Faye and Bubbles admitted they had no idea what they were doing.
I bet nothing happened except one big spooning session.
I am willing to put a significant sum of money that "I have no idea what I'm doing" is the most common thing a person will say before losing their virginity.
I mean I feel like both. I don't think things got very explicit yet. Maybe just some light physicality. In their case, I think the "I don't know what I'm doing" is as much logistical as it is emotional. Which, yeah, standard virginity but even if we don't need to know how this works, they do and I'm not sure they do.
Also, I thought Bubbles has been naked since she took her armor off but apparently that 'leotard' is clothing? That makes sense since most of the of AI wear clothes ... except for pintsize. ... hmmm I guess the more humanoid, the more important clothing is?
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so Faye loves Robot D now
good to know
Do you want to go ahead and explain an appropriate context for this comment, just to make sure that I'm not misunderstanding?
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1. There is no situation in which that comment is okay. I’m thinking brain diarrhea, because that goes beyond brain fart.
2. Bubbles may not know when she started having feelings for Faye, but we can puzzle it out.
3. Bubbles is not a machine, and she is not a computer. 🙄
4. Obviously Bubbles’ favorite Toto song is Africa.
5. Faye was so thinking “omg this relationship will never work” when she thought Bubbles didn’t know Tetris.😜
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Faye isn't exactly petite. I don't think Sven or Angus deadlifted her in the air for kisses
No, they never did. I was actually talking to my friend about it. “Neither of her exes did that, but then again they weren’t strong enough to pick her up like that.” 😂
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1. There is no situation in which that comment is okay. I’m thinking brain diarrhea, because that goes beyond brain fart.
An unpleasant mental image.
Can I just say that I love your comments in general? It's always fun to see what you have to say.
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Aw, thanks!
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Gotta say that was deeper then I was expecting. I was waiting for a cut to Marten and Claire in the living room, Faye walking by wrapped in a blanket and coming back with a handful of USB cables back into the bedroom. Then Bubs coming out wrapped in a towel and then walking back with a plate of waffles and syrup a'la Marigold and Dale lol.
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I wonder if smelling waffles and syrup is as enjoyable as smelling tea.
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Warm maple syrup, definitely.
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Off topic, but who’s that guy in your avatar?
I’m probably gonna get some weird looks for this, but Bubbles looks a bit Doonesbury-esque to me in the penultimate panel. It’s probably just me.
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Gotta say that was deeper then I was expecting. I was waiting for a cut to Marten and Claire in the living room, Faye walking by wrapped in a blanket and coming back with a handful of USB cables back into the bedroom. Then Bubs coming out wrapped in a towel and then walking back with a plate of waffles and syrup a'la Marigold and Dale lol.
It may yet happen!
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Has it ever been established in the comic if the general public (or any subsection thereof) has any negative attitudes toward humans and AIs being in romantic/sexual relationships with each other?
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It was established fairly far back (at the time Momo first got her job at the Smif Library) that there is a human subculture that's pretty synthephobic, denouncing the AIs as 'soulless abominations'. I'm sure that sexual relations with AIs would be considered an automatic no-no by that group.
That said, it wouldn't surprise me if there are AIs who regard having an intimate relationship with a human as 'demoting yourself to the status of a sex doll' or something similar.
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Beautiful and classy comic. Love the parallel curves.
And yeah, I have to admit one thought that crossed my mind was "Huh! Bubbles is seamless!"
Back at Emily's lake cabin party, Momo mentioned she has a seamless waterproof covering and was even able to go "swimming" (even through she couldn't really float), so Bubbles' "skin" is undoubtedly even more advanced. And apparently feels pretty nice.
Faye is really good at denial and generally being oblivious, and Bubbles is somewhat inexperienced, so it'll be interesting to see to what extent they really understand that everyone already knows. Are they preparing the Arbor Day banner, or are they keeping a safe distance like Pintsize?
Then again, Marten told Faye he's been expecting this for a while, and Dora and Tai even had various "operational codes" prepared for the day when the penny finally dropped. So they already know everyone already knows, you know?
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I would guess that the good AI skin like Momo's is visibly identical to human since Sam thought she was human when they first met. I don't know if Bubbles' skin would be as aesthetically designed as Momo's but as far as water resistance and durability it would probably exceed it in most ways.
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I just googled 'Homburg' and you are exactly right! The hat I thought of as a Derby is actually a Homburg. The most informative article I came across (in my very brief googling) also showed men sitting side by side, wearing basically identical hats. (Without 'dents'). It was the hat I've always thought of as a bowler, but the same hat was described as a Derby in America. Who would've thought hats could be so fascinating ('scuse the pun). I'm not being sarcastic there by the way. It's genuinely interesting stuff. And I learned something today.
I myself wear a Porkpie most of the time and a Trilby occasionally though having wide shoulders I should wear a wider brim hat such as a Fedora but I can't get one locally that I like.
The only fedora I look good in is a widebrimmed one (think Indiana Jones) I'm better off with a flat cap. Any other hats you fellows might be able to recommend based on that? I'm short (5'5", 165cm) and I've got broad shoulders and a barrel chest if that helps any.
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A Homburg is generally a good choice, generally the wider the shoulders the wider the brim but rolled brims ie Bowlers and Porkpies can work. If you think you can get away with the slight western aesthetic a Gambler can work.
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So Bubbles’s “hip joints” and “arm joints” were just lines in her unitard...
Edit: And also: SQUEEEEEE!
*performs a 'toldja-so' dance*
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I would guess that the good AI skin like Momo's is visibly identical to human since Sam thought she was human when they first met. I don't know if Bubbles' skin would be as aesthetically designed as Momo's but as far as water resistance and durability it would probably exceed it in most ways.
Momo and her ilk were designed as companions, Bubbles' 'skin' is probably designed to handle spalling from the armour (and by extension small arms fire), as well as NBC, corrosion and water resistance. Under those requirements realism in either look or feel wouldn't have been a high priority on the design list (think the T600 rubber skin). Maybe it feels like cuddling a damp tarpaulin and Faye isn't ready to say anything.
Also on the hat debate, Panama all the way, for the 'Our Man in Havanna' look.
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A Homburg is generally a good choice, generally the wider the shoulders the wider the brim but rolled brims ie Bowlers and Porkpies can work. If you think you can get away with the slight western aesthetic a Gambler can work.
The Gambler will do nicely. No offense, but I'm more likely to wear a Stetson than a Homburg, though I'm not much a fan of either.
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The very rude part of me is curious about um...what happened before this pillow talk.
*hides* mods please be gentle.
It's perfectly natural to be curious. I'm curious, too. But I suspect Jeph will treat it much the same as he does Marten and Claire's sex life; the canonical answer is "mind your business". And that's probably for the best.
Indeed. And, given how much effort Jeph has put into avoiding the physical aspects of Carten, I'[m pretty sure we'll never get any answers to FayBles.
And you know what? I'm actually more happy with that than I would be with the other. It doesn't add anything to the story, at least yet.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I want to ask - or if it's even kosher to do so - just exactly how, um...anatomically correct Bubs is underneath all the armor and stuff. Why would a combat droid even need to be anatomically correct, anyway?
"Need" may be a question of civil rights. Bubbles is a recognized life form with rights, and AIs sometimes have a libido. Even if such equipment is not installed by default, the relevant "expansion slots"* may be a required element, allowing the AI to upgrade later if desired.
*Can't believe I just said that.
As for her current configuration, it doesn't appear immediately relevant to the story. At the moment, both seem happy with the current situation.
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A Homburg is generally a good choice, generally the wider the shoulders the wider the brim but rolled brims ie Bowlers and Porkpies can work. If you think you can get away with the slight western aesthetic a Gambler can work.
The Gambler will do nicely. No offense, but I'm more likely to wear a Stetson than a Homburg, though I'm not much a fan of either.
That reminds me that I need a new hat.
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We already got a quick primer on how robot sex works, thanks to Faye's sister's girlfriend. Which, frankly, is more than Jeph was obligated to give us. I think we can assume that, one way or another, they'll figure it out.
But that's not necessarily what I think is the interesting thing about robot/human romance... I'm more interested in things like Bubbles' chassis. Bubbles is an AI, a thinking computer program that can inhabit anything from a toaster to a fighter jet to a humanoid chassis. She has a distinct personality and, no matter what chassis she inhabits, she will always be a distinct and unique being -- Bubbles.
I like to think Faye would love Bubbles no matter what -- but this is an issue unique to human/robot romances. How good are humans at transferring our romantic affection to a new physical form? Bubbles might not want to be a combat bot forever, or her chassis might suffer damage or break down, requiring her to find a new one to live in.
Also, are AIs immortal? Do they face the same issue as Elves from Lord of the Rings -- doomed to watch humans they love slowly age and die? Are robot/human romances doomed to inevitable tragedy?
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We already got a quick primer on how robot sex works, thanks to Faye's sister's girlfriend. Which, frankly, is more than Jeph was obligated to give us. I think we can assume that, one way or another, they'll figure it out.
But that's not necessarily what I think is the interesting thing about robot/human romance... I'm more interested in things like Bubbles' chassis. Bubbles is an AI, a thinking computer program that can inhabit anything from a toaster to a fighter jet to a humanoid chassis. She has a distinct personality and, no matter what chassis she inhabits, she will always be a distinct and unique being -- Bubbles.
I like to think Faye would love Bubbles no matter what -- but this is an issue unique to human/robot romances. How good are humans at transferring our romantic affection to a new physical form? Bubbles might not want to be a combat bot forever, or her chassis might suffer damage or break down, requiring her to find a new one to live in.
Also, are AIs immortal? Do they face the same issue as Elves from Lord of the Rings -- doomed to watch humans they love slowly age and die? Are robot/human romances doomed to inevitable tragedy?
That reminds me somehow of a lot of the newer Dr Who series, they explored that with the transition between Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi.
I don't think they did it... well. I trust Jeph to be a lot more interesting with the concept.
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We already got a quick primer on how robot sex works, thanks to Faye's sister's girlfriend. Which, frankly, is more than Jeph was obligated to give us. I think we can assume that, one way or another, they'll figure it out.
But that's not necessarily what I think is the interesting thing about robot/human romance... I'm more interested in things like Bubbles' chassis. Bubbles is an AI, a thinking computer program that can inhabit anything from a toaster to a fighter jet to a humanoid chassis. She has a distinct personality and, no matter what chassis she inhabits, she will always be a distinct and unique being -- Bubbles.
I like to think Faye would love Bubbles no matter what -- but this is an issue unique to human/robot romances. How good are humans at transferring our romantic affection to a new physical form? Bubbles might not want to be a combat bot forever, or her chassis might suffer damage or break down, requiring her to find a new one to live in.
Also, are AIs immortal? Do they face the same issue as Elves from Lord of the Rings -- doomed to watch humans they love slowly age and die? Are robot/human romances doomed to inevitable tragedy?
That reminds me somehow of a lot of the newer Dr Who series, they explored that with the transition between Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi.
I don't think they did it... well. I trust Jeph to be a lot more interesting with the concept.
Clara didn't handle that well at all. It felt like her character suddenly became shallow.
I did enjoy some of the conversations between The Doctor and Lady Me about immortality and their relationship with humans. It's rare for The Doctor to have anybody to talk about this stuff with.
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Apparently so. I thought that the arms and legs could be detached like the head, but apparently Bubbles chassis is one piece. It seems impractical considering what damage she could sustain even with the armor, but maybe she doesn't need seams. It's probably an advanced form of robot flesh that can possibly cut into and sealed up without leaving a scar.
From a logistics standpoint it makes perfect sense.
A durable yet compliant and mildly self repairing flexible covering to keep dust and other gunk out of joints and seals.
Damage could be field dressed with patches of the same material until proper repairs or change-outs can be made.
Adding my one point on the question on anatomy is more a question of psychology.
What would be in the uncanny valley zone of creepy otherness and what would be not enough that you would be in the alien among us zone of creepy?
I am not asking for specific answers but more as a thought experiment with regards to the military's original project mission statement.
We know that there are non-humanoid chassis ex Deathbot, that may or may not have been deployed so a humanoid tank is not likely when there are more efficient designs in the system. Mind you a humanoid is far more flexible for deployment in multiple roles even though they would not be as efficient in any one particular role compared to a dedicated system.
The other thing to keep in mind about the military when it comes to experimental systems, they like to play fast and loose with practicality when it comes to development projects.
Cyanoacrylates were originally developed as field sutures and now they are an ubiquitous commodity adhesive product in the consumer market.
So, in my roundabout way, we come to the core question that we can only speculate on an answer for is; what were the actual goals of the project for Bubbles and her chassis design?
1. There is no situation in which that comment is okay. I’m thinking brain diarrhea, because that goes beyond brain fart.
You have a way with painting images with words. :-D
It is something that has gotten me in a bit of trouble at times. :facepalm:
Also, are AIs immortal? Do they face the same issue as Elves from Lord of the Rings -- doomed to watch humans they love slowly age and die? Are robot/human romances doomed to inevitable tragedy?
That all really depends on Jeph's latest iteration on what constitutes the core of an AI and just how durable it is over time.
Data without any self repair mechanisms will slowly corrupt over time, dependent on the storage media used.
At one time check bits was all we had and all that could do was raise a flag that "something" was wrong.
Now we have self repair algorythems that are as robust up to the size of the repair blocks generated. Anything larger and you lose the data.
But that is data. How resistant is the active "thingy" that is an AI to corruption and degradation?
Then again the same questions could be leveled at the human consciousness with just as much head-scratching and beer involved. - Bruce
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A Homburg is generally a good choice, generally the wider the shoulders the wider the brim but rolled brims ie Bowlers and Porkpies can work. If you think you can get away with the slight western aesthetic a Gambler can work.
It's kinda simplistic but a buddy of mine in Cowboy Action Shooting described it best. When it comes to style of hat personal preference is a must but when it comes to matching something to your build, Bonanza has you covered. Smaller build/frame? Look for a hat in the styling of Little Joe which is along the lines of the gambler style. Medium build, medium height? Look for the hat in the Style of Adam. Big build, tall? Hoss or Ben Cartwright style of hat.
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I love this page, very sweet interaction between the two, and I love how he drew the two of them laying together. However, I am in shock that the bed survived.
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All good choices if you are in to the western aesthetic. I myself enjoy a plethora of haberdashery but lately tend towards a more 1940'2 to 1950's style.
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Without her armor I think Bubbles wouldn't weigh much more than a human of the same size.
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Also, are AIs immortal? Do they face the same issue as Elves from Lord of the Rings -- doomed to watch humans they love slowly age and die? Are robot/human romances doomed to inevitable tragedy?
It's been mentioned that the singularity is well underway. We've seen very powerful AI characters, and we've seen Emily interact in virtual space with an "induction interface" that seemed to read her thoughts. How far behind is a fully uploaded human mind? Faye could simply catch up to Bubbles as a digital consciousness with her own immortal existence.
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Gotta say that was deeper then I was expecting. I was waiting for a cut to Marten and Claire in the living room, Faye walking by wrapped in a blanket and coming back with a handful of USB cables back into the bedroom. Then Bubs coming out wrapped in a towel and then walking back with a plate of waffles and syrup a'la Marigold and Dale lol.
Not meaning to speak ill of Marigold and Dale, but...Bubbles and Faye have not demonstrated the same sort of, uh...how to put this...they haven't given the impression that they have a lifetime of not-having-sex to make up for all at once, nor that they're the types to tunnel vision on an activity just because it feels good, the way that both Dale and Marigold did.
For D&M, it was funny 'cause it made sense, to a degree. For F&B that would've just been...odd (and also undercut a lot of the emotional buildup that Jeph just put a lot of work into creating), so I'd have been pretty surprised by it going that direction, myself. Not that it would be a bad choice, just would've surprised me.
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About AI changing chassis: I think control/perception is probably pretty easy. Knock-on effects of having different interactions because people treat the new chassis differently (gender euphoria, etc) are a whole nother story.
I don't know how many people have ever experienced this, but when you become familiar with operating a machine that has articulated joints and grippers or tools at the end of arms and things like that?
The controls don't need to be nearly as "easy" as you'd expect to make the machine operate precisely and fluently. In fact controls that try to mediate the process too much can be a hindrance.
You can take a crane or a forklift or a scoop bucket or a PTO implement on a tractor or any of a bunch of other things, and just hook them up to the panel of levers next to the cab where each lever just operates one cylinder, and start using it. You'll be clumsy when you start, and you'll have to stop and think about how to do each operation and what levers that means to pull or push. But within hours, you'll be using it competently, and within a day or so, fluently. Without thinking any more about pulling or pushing the individual levers.
Most people who drive, have done this with cars so long ago that they don't even remember the process. You're not thinking about the steering wheel and the gas and the clutch and the brake and the gearshift lever when you drive; you're fluently adjusting course and speed and angle without thinking about exactly how to accomplish each operation. The same thing works with much much more complicated machinery such as articulated arms.
So I imagine an AI as having ten or twelve "standard control interfaces" the way we have two hands, and each new chassis is handled by a bunch of 'controls' (could be two for a toaster, or a hundred for a humanoid chassis) which the control interfaces can manipulate or switch between as needed. Once an AI moves in and inhabits the thing, it takes only a little bit of practice to get the hang of running it via those controls, and fluency is just a matter of working it out.
Imagine how natural your car would feel by now if you were driving 24 hours a day and you didn't have distractions like sensory perceptions distinct to your body instead of mediated by the car. IE, if you could drive, without having to be even aware of your own physical instrumentality as a driver.
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Pretty sure Faye is Bubbles’ first everything.
Anyway...I think Faye feels pretty good cuddling Bubbles, so we can surmise that she doesn’t feel like wet plastic or whatever.
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But that's not necessarily what I think is the interesting thing about robot/human romance... I'm more interested in things like Bubbles' chassis. Bubbles is an AI, a thinking computer program that can inhabit anything from a toaster to a fighter jet to a humanoid chassis. She has a distinct personality and, no matter what chassis she inhabits, she will always be a distinct and unique being -- Bubbles.
I like to think Faye would love Bubbles no matter what -- but this is an issue unique to human/robot romances. How good are humans at transferring our romantic affection to a new physical form? Bubbles might not want to be a combat bot forever, or her chassis might suffer damage or break down, requiring her to find a new one to live in.
A question similar to yours is briefly touched upon in the TNG episode The Measure Of A Man (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Measure_Of_A_Man_(episode)).
In short:
A cybernetics expert named Maddox wants to experiment on Data, mostly by disassembling him, which poses the very real threat of Data's destruction. Maddox continuously treats Data like a machine, denying him basic human rights (as displayed, for example, by him entering Data's quarters "unannounced and without permission"). When asked by Picard why he seems to care so little for Data's personhood, Maddox ultimately says this:
"You are imparting Human qualities to it because it looks Human – but I assure you: it is not. If it were a box on wheels I would not be facing this opposition."
- Maddox, to Picard and Louvois
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A Homburg is generally a good choice, generally the wider the shoulders the wider the brim but rolled brims ie Bowlers and Porkpies can work. If you think you can get away with the slight western aesthetic a Gambler can work.
It's kinda simplistic but a buddy of mine in Cowboy Action Shooting described it best. When it comes to style of hat personal preference is a must but when it comes to matching something to your build, Bonanza has you covered. Smaller build/frame? Look for a hat in the styling of Little Joe which is along the lines of the gambler style. Medium build, medium height? Look for the hat in the Style of Adam. Big build, tall? Hoss or Ben Cartwright style of hat.
Eh, either a fedora - a true one mind - or a beret. Otherwise it's just a hair covering.
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I don't really think anatomy matters.
No, of course, it doesn't...but it could be useful to know what the potential limits to the physicality of the relationship might be.
That sort of information is only useful to the people in the relationship. It has no use whatsoever to anyone else.
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Back in Emily's parents' lake house, Momo had to walk along the bottom of the lake. So robot bodies are apparently somewhat more dense than human bodies.
Bubbles is well over six feet, with especially large and powerful myomer muscles, so, well... it just wouldn't be polite to speculate about the lady's mass, now would it?
That said, Bubbles regularly uses human furniture without issue, so it's not that big a difference. Muscular humans sometimes have trouble floating.
I hope they remembered to pick up Faye's glasses, anyway...
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I wonder if Bubbles researched...umm....glass blowing techniques before hand >_>
Seems like a safe bet, no?
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Lack of buoyancy does not necessarily mean high mass.
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Lack of buoyancy does not necessarily mean high mass.
But it does correlate for a given volume. Given that Momo has the same physical dimensions and shape as a human, if she were the same mass, she would float. She doesn't. Therefore, she has a higher mass.
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I wonder if Bubbles researched...umm....glass blowing techniques before hand >_>
Intense CQC training. :-D
(Close quarters canoodling)
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Lack of buoyancy does not necessarily mean high mass.
But it does correlate for a given volume. Given that Momo has the same physical dimensions and shape as a human, if she were the same mass, she would float. She doesn't. Therefore, she has a higher mass.
If I remember correctly the specific gravity of the individual components also plays a part since we as humans have a specific gravity almost identical to water we float. If the composite specific gravity of AI chassis is just a little bit higher they might sink a little bit.
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I liked how the comic would exactly be the kind of images couples posts to their friends on social media, as a cutesy relationship collage. As in we're seeing exactly what they want to share.
In support of that, their expressions don't strike me as afterglowish.
Gauging on Faye's more serious expresion makes me think if she's thinking 'don't fart' and is trying her best to keep it in. (where is my mind, lol)
A cybernetics expert named Maddox wants to experiment on Data, mostly by disassembling him, which poses the very real threat of Data's destruction. Maddox continuously treats Data like a machine, denying him basic human rights (as displayed, for example, by him entering Data's quarters "unannounced and without permission"). When asked by Picard why he seems to care so little for Data's personhood, Maddox ultimately says this:
"You are imparting Human qualities to it because it looks Human – but I assure you: it is not. If it were a box on wheels I would not be facing this opposition."
- Maddox, to Picard and Louvois
I saw Ted 2 yesterday and that looked to be the same issue almost.
There's a sticky about discussing private parts.
That makes my aspie brain wonder if there is such a thing as public parts.
Lack of buoyancy does not necessarily mean high mass.
I would think that means she's no airhead.
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Lack of buoyancy does not necessarily mean high mass.
But it does correlate for a given volume. Given that Momo has the same physical dimensions and shape as a human, if she were the same mass, she would float. She doesn't. Therefore, she has a higher mass.
If I remember correctly the specific gravity of the individual components also plays a part since we as humans have a specific gravity almost identical to water we float. If the composite specific gravity of AI chassis is just a little bit higher they might sink a little bit.
As a mature man, my father was quite fit and had very little body fat. While he was very comfortable in the water, and very capable at swimming, he had to work hard at staying afloat (the phrase "sinks like a stone" comes to mind). He often joked that it was easier for him to take a few deep breaths, sink to the bottom, and walk back to shore than it was to swim back. So, yes, the specific gravity of a persons body would affect how (and even if) they float.
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That makes my aspie brain wonder if there is such a thing as public parts.
That's... well...
At first I was going to say "Of course there are. They're any parts that you display publicly." But those aren't actually public, are they? My face is on display all the time, but I would be very angry indeed if someone were to touch it. The same goes for all the other parts of me people see regularly. And that's just touching. I would be absolutely livid if people did anything else with any part of my body.
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Off topic, but who’s that guy in your avatar?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137
Panel 3.
I made a few changes to make him look a bit more like me (glasses, less hair up top, couldn’t do anything about the glass in the hand, just pretend it’s Coke, not booze)
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On another forum (not QC or Jeph Jacques related), a participant posted that, in his office, everybody shook hands. The participant wasn't comfortable with this behaviour.
Apparently, to his employer, hands were (some order of) "public parts", while (to him) they were not.
To me, there is a spectrum of privacy ranging from "very private" to "somewhat public". I have parts that no-one else gets to see or touch, parts that I will display without permission to touch at all, and parts that you may touch only under certain circumstances. I think that most people have the same limits. "Private parts": yes, "Public parts": not really, no.
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Comic is up.
I am a happy bunny! *hop hop hop*
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They'll get around to it sometime in the fall.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
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They’ll discuss it after the bed breaks. :-D
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If I remember correctly the specific gravity of the individual components also plays a part since we as humans have a specific gravity almost identical to water we float. If the composite specific gravity of AI chassis is just a little bit higher they might sink a little bit.
Specific gravity is defined as the density of an object relative to the density of a reference fluid (usually water).
Since density is the mass of an object per unit of volume, specific gravity is still mass dependent. Individuals with minimal body fat have a higher specific gravity because they're physically denser than those with higher body fat (muscle is significantly more dense than fat).
Long story short, still mass dependent. If Momo were a human with the established body type and dimensions, she would float. If she sinks, she has to posses a higher mass.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
I wouldn't think that, at this stage, they would have anything important to discuss. At this time, they likely can't even put into words the things that they think they need to discuss. Give it a few (in-universe) days, as they see how their friends react (it looks like approval all around) and the realities of the situation sink in.
Once they get a feel for each others feelings, the discussion will happen. I doubt that it will be structured, and I hope that Jeph gives them some privacy during it, but they will find the words and figure it out.
For what it's worth, relationships are hard. They require work to maintain. I'm confident (from how Jeph has written them so far) that Faye and Bubbles have it in them to make their relationship work.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
Being a realist for a second their relationship will be fraught with difficulties (as most are) right now they are riding the endorfin (and whatever equivalent Bubbles has) high, to be long lasting it will require a lot of work no matter how compatible they are.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
Well, Faye just fibbed a little. She wasn't all set to talk about things after talking to Marten. She wanted to pretend "nothin's up, just a normal-ass day" So she could give herself some time to think.
So there are still insecurities she needs to work out.
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If I remember correctly the specific gravity of the individual components also plays a part since we as humans have a specific gravity almost identical to water we float. If the composite specific gravity of AI chassis is just a little bit higher they might sink a little bit.
Specific gravity is defined as the density of an object relative to the density of a reference fluid (usually water).
Since density is the mass of an object per unit of volume, specific gravity is still mass dependent. Individuals with minimal body fat have a higher specific gravity because they're physically denser than those with higher body fat (muscle is significantly more dense than fat).
Long story short, still mass dependent. If Momo were a human with the established body type and dimensions, she would float. If she sinks, she has to posses a higher mass.
But the difference wouldn't necessarily be enough that the average person would think much more than the other person is slightly heavy for their size. Nowhere near enough that Bubbles couldn't seem almost the same as a comparably sized human.
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Well, Faye just fibbed a little. She wasn't all set to talk about things after talking to Marten. She wanted to pretend "nothin's up, just a normal-ass day" So she could give herself some time to think.
So there are still insecurities she needs to work out.
That's fair, although after making that plan she then found bubbles gone and started panic-running across town to find her. It's possible that doing that convinced her that nothing about this was "Normal-ass" and she then decided to talk things out. Then they got back to the shop and things... went in a different direction.
It means Faye stops short of being dishonest here, although it was off-screen so head-canon at best.
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Right riiiiight, she totally lied! Oh no, this isn't setting a good precedent! Fay-yye!! How could you?
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I think it was more "Faye realizes there is something there, she needs time to sort it out in her head but will then sit down with Bubs to talk it out" than "Faye is lying because she didn't immediately try to jump to The Talk when she got back".
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Okay, maybe it's because it's been awhile since Faye got any, but it seems like she's nakeder than she's ever been before. I don't recall seeing, uh, that much before. Maybe I'm misremembering, or maybe I didn't remember too well since I was never too crazy about her previous paramours.
Not trying to be creepy (sorry mods) just noticing another way this relationship seems to be breaking new ground. I just don't seem to remember her being like this with anyone before. If someone can find something that proves me wrong, please do so.
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I wouldn't think that, at this stage, they would have anything important to discuss. At this time, they likely can't even put into words the things that they think they need to discuss. Give it a few (in-universe) days, as they see how their friends react (it looks like approval all around) and the realities of the situation sink in.
Once they get a feel for each others feelings, the discussion will happen. I doubt that it will be structured, and I hope that Jeph gives them some privacy during it, but they will find the words and figure it out.
For what it's worth, relationships are hard. They require work to maintain. I'm confident (from how Jeph has written them so far) that Faye and Bubbles have it in them to make their relationship work.
Cheers to that! Right now the air is positively fizzing with a heady mixture of lust and NRE. Let the initial rush of excitement fade a little before the big talk happens because that is a talk for cooler heads.
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Okay, maybe it's because it's been awhile since Faye got any, but it seems like she's nakeder than she's ever been before. I don't recall seeing, uh, that much before. Maybe I'm misremembering, or maybe I didn't remember too well since I was never too crazy about her previous paramours.
Not trying to be creepy (sorry mods) just noticing another way this relationship seems to be breaking new ground. I just don't seem to remember her being like this with anyone before. If someone can find something that proves me wrong, please do so.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1198
(Note: Probably too risqué for work.)
Will this do?
As for now, I think this is the most emotionally vulnerable we've seen her for a long while, that's for sure. I think that emphasises it. And I don't think we've seen her this vulnerable whilst intimate with a partner. Even with Angus she was still using snark as a defensive wall.
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Right riiiiight, she totally lied! Oh no, this isn't setting a good precedent! Fay-yye!! How could you?
Maaaaaaybe you're overreacting?
Pretty sure all I did was point out that she has insecurities she hasn't addressed yet that she and bubbles will have to work on. Congratulations, she shares that in common with everybody starting a new relationship since the invention of dating.
I think it was more "Faye realizes there is something there, she needs time to sort it out in her head but will then sit down with Bubs to talk it out" than "Faye is lying because she didn't immediately try to jump to The Talk when she got back".
Essentially. The worst possible thing one could say about it is that she omitted mentioning a momentary bit of doubt.
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Ah, point taken. Sven. The friggin Ares to her Aphrodite. A relationship based solely on sex.
Welp. That confirms it. I just hate Sven, so I blanked him and everything having to do with him out! haha!
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If Momo were a human with the established body type and dimensions, she would float. If she sinks, she has to posses a higher mass.
If Momo were human, she would require lungs in order to breath. Lungs, being of large volume, and filled with air, would lower the density of the body, perhaps enough to allow the body to float. So, the question may actually hinge on whether or not Momo has lungs (or something else) that might reduce her density.
In other words, if she sinks, she either has to possess a higher mass, or she lacks something (like lungs) that would reduce her density.
Anyway, it's a moot point. Jeph (as far as I know) hasn't explained, or allowed Momo to explain, why Momo sinks in water. Perhaps she just doesn't know how to swim.
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Okay, maybe it's because it's been awhile since Faye got any, but it seems like she's nakeder than she's ever been before. I don't recall seeing, uh, that much before. Maybe I'm misremembering, or maybe I didn't remember too well since I was never too crazy about her previous paramours.
Not trying to be creepy (sorry mods) just noticing another way this relationship seems to be breaking new ground. I just don't seem to remember her being like this with anyone before. If someone can find something that proves me wrong, please do so.
Probably NSFW: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1887 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1887)
That, I’m fairly certain, is the most nude we’ve ever seen Faye.
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Chapeau.
(Faye and Bubbles are great together, I am excited to see how the relationship develops and they are sickeningly cute as fuck. But Angus had his moments. I wonder how he's getting on, in-comic.)
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http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1198
(Note: Probably too risqué for work.)
Will this do?
As for now, I think this is the most emotionally vulnerable we've seen her for a long while, that's for sure. I think that emphasises it. And I don't think we've seen her this vulnerable whilst intimate with a partner. Even with Angus she was still using snark as a defensive wall.
I'd like to think that this newfound "vulnerability" has more to do with being a stronger and more stable person. In addition to previous failed relationships, she's stopped relying on alcohol to solve her problems, been forced to grow up or give up by virtue of being fired from a job she took for granted and instead taking things into her own hands, and gone through some shit WITH Bubbles.
Plus, I would argue that this vulnerability is in no small part also because of just how close their relationship had already grown, and because of aforementioned shit she helped Bubbles get through. One of the best things you can do to help yourself, sometimes, is to help someone else.
TLDR: Faye has grown up. And so has Bubbles.
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You know, looking back a couple of days at the poker game, it occurs to me it might be kind of funny and cool to maybe come to some kind of arrangement with other webcomics that have AI characters or sidekicks, and have them all sit down for a poker game now and then, whenever any particular webcomic feels like doing an issue with them.
I don't know too many, personally, since I don't read a lot of webcomics anymore, but you could have Pintsize or Winslow from here, X-Bot from CAD, maybe one of the AIs from Quantum Vibe. Like I said, I don't know of too many bots in webcomics, but I'm sure there's more.
Maybe even have guest cameos from more famous robots, if copyright isn't a big concern; like Bender from Futurama, Rosie from The Jetsons, Robot from Lost in Space, etc.
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Yup okay, so I'm just full of it. I admit I didn't really like Sven or Angus. Sven was just a dick and I hated Angus for how he treated Marigold, so yeah. Finally I like someone Faye is with. lol.
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http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1198
(Note: Probably too risqué for work.)
Will this do?
As for now, I think this is the most emotionally vulnerable we've seen her for a long while, that's for sure. I think that emphasises it. And I don't think we've seen her this vulnerable whilst intimate with a partner. Even with Angus she was still using snark as a defensive wall.
I'd like to think that this newfound "vulnerability" has more to do with being a stronger and more stable person. In addition to previous failed relationships, she's stopped relying on alcohol to solve her problems, been forced to grow up or give up by virtue of being fired from a job she took for granted and instead taking things into her own hands, and gone through some shit WITH Bubbles.
Plus, I would argue that this vulnerability is in no small part also because of just how close their relationship had already grown, because of aforementioned shit she helped Bubbles get through.
TLDR: Faye has grown up. And so has Bubbles.
I'd probably agree with you. I didn't mean vulnerable as a negative, feeling able to be open and exposed with all shields dropped with someone takes a lot of bravery. Plus, like you say, being able to really trust the person you're with.
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I wonder if Bubbles researched...umm....glass blowing techniques before hand >_>
Seems like a safe bet, no?
Then that's how Faye's glasses flew through the air? Bubbles blew them?
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Yup okay, so I'm just full of it. I admit I didn't really like Sven or Angus. Sven was just a dick and I hated Angus for how he treated Marigold, so yeah. Finally I like someone Faye is with. lol.
I feel like I'm forgetting a major plot-point, what did Angus do to Marigold? What I can remember is her having feelings for him and him turning her down, but they had a pretty reasonable platonic friendship going most of the time, no? Unless you mean him having feelings for Faye and hiding that from her?
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I wonder if Bubbles researched...umm....glass blowing techniques before hand >_>
Seems like a safe bet, no?
Then that's how Faye's glasses flew through the air? Bubbles blew them?
TBH I wear glasses and I've had them knocked pretty far under the right circumstances, so..... yeah.
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Ehhh...it's my own personal hangup as a geeky, not much luck with relationships kinda girl. Basically I saw a lot of myself in Marigold and Angus could have been kinder in rejecting her.
I'm sure I wouldn't hate Angus as much if I wasn't me.
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On another note, am I crazy or did anyone besides me think that Faye letting Bubbles walk in when she wasn't wearing pants was her way of trying to bring things to a conclusion? Turned out it was the back rub, but I feel like the "You said you were decent!" thing was Faye being a little mischievous.
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Ehhh...it's my own personal hangup as a geeky, not much luck with relationships kinda girl. Basically I saw a lot of myself in Marigold and Angus could have been kinder in rejecting her.
I'm sure I wouldn't hate Angus as much if I wasn't me.
Fair enough. I guess (looking back now) what I liked was how much he obviously enjoyed Faye's company. It wasn't like Sven's means to an end thing, he was genuinely enjoying the time he spent with her.
I get the same vibe from Bubbles too, plus a lot more emotional depth. Bodes well, hopefully, as long as no-one moves to New York.
New York is the relationship killer. It's like the farm where they send old dogs and horses.
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Or allosauruses.
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Fair enough. I guess (looking back now) what I liked was how much he obviously enjoyed Faye's company. It wasn't like Sven's means to an end thing, he was genuinely enjoying the time he spent with her.
I get the same vibe from Bubbles too, plus a lot more emotional depth. Bodes well, hopefully, as long as no-one moves to New York.
New York is the relationship killer. It's like the farm where they send old dogs and horses.
To be fair to Sven, he also genuinely enjoyed the time he spent with Faye. But it was the first time he had ever experienced that with anyone, so he had no idea how to not be a means-to-an-end kind of guy. It was only after she left that he realized that he had actually been feeling something genuine. Of course, since it was the first time he had ever felt that way, he still had no idea how to handle it, and he handled it badly.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
"Will being lovers interfere with being business partners?"
They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
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If Momo were a human with the established body type and dimensions, she would float. If she sinks, she has to posses a higher mass.
If Momo were human, she would require lungs in order to breath. Lungs, being of large volume, and filled with air, would lower the density of the body, perhaps enough to allow the body to float. So, the question may actually hinge on whether or not Momo has lungs (or something else) that might reduce her density.
In other words, if she sinks, she either has to possess a higher mass, or she lacks something (like lungs) that would reduce her density.
Anyway, it's a moot point. Jeph (as far as I know) hasn't explained, or allowed Momo to explain, why Momo sinks in water. Perhaps she just doesn't know how to swim.
I think you may have hit on the critical point, in that Momo does not have two large bags of air inside her. But I have to wonder if "density" is the right term. After all, I think of a submarine as being quite dense (and having great mass as well), but because it is filled with air, it can float. Perhaps I am just thinking of "density" in the wrong way.
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
In a relationship, there is always a need to discuss things. Even if they simply start with the "so what are we now?" conversation, things will constantly come up to discuss. Some of them will be trivial, and others may be more serious, but communication is an essential ingredient in a successful relationship.
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Plus we do still have to establish the Toto situation...
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"Will being lovers interfere with being business partners?"
They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
How would it?
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I think you may have hit on the critical point, in that Momo does not have two large bags of air inside her. But I have to wonder if "density" is the right term. After all, I think of a submarine as being quite dense (and having great mass as well), but because it is filled with air, it can float. Perhaps I am just thinking of "density" in the wrong way.
I'm sorry, but you are. If the object is full of air (be it lungs or a submarine) it's less dense. That's why a ship floats, because its overall density is less than the water it's floating on. The high density of the hull is counteracted because the total volume of the ship is mostly full of air. A submarine dives by pumping sea water into ballast tanks to increase its overall density to the point where it sinks in the water, and rises back to the surface by pumping the water out again.*
There's no way around it, if Momo sinks when a human of the same volume would float, it has to be because she has extra mass raising her density above the point where she ceases to be buoyant. Physics demands it.
*for perfect clarity, a submarine can actually dive and rise through the water by angling the hydroplanes so that the forward movement also pushes it down or up, in the same way a plane changes altitude, but sustaining depth, especially when the sub isn't moving that fast (creeping along at slow speed to keep quiet is a submarine thing) is best achieved by manipulating the level of seawater in the ballast tanks.
To turn this back to relevance, in Bubble's case her mass can't be significantly higher than Faye. In the last panel of the current comic, she's currently on top and Faye isn't being crushed. :-P
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They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT TECHNOLOGY
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"Will being lovers interfere with being business partners?"
They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
How would it?
As just one example- when they had their moment of epiphany, they were alone in the shop. This will not always be the case. They might want to talk about what level of PDA they each are comfortable with.
And that's assuming everything's going swimmingly. All relationships have ups and downs. They need to be ready to work together even after a row. Which I'm sure they can do, it's just worth thinking about ways to make that more manageable, if possible.
Also, like I said before- Toto.
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The latest comic gave me an idea for the best avatar image ever. I think I'll use it on other forums and social media as well.
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They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
Suddenly, Faye discovers an unpleasant allergy to some of the materials that make up Bubbles dermal layer. :-D
How would it?
There's the short term honeymoon period where they're distracted and slowing down the work. For example, they closed early today. Also too much grabby grabby kissy kissy might bother customers.
Beyond that, I can't think of anything. They're the sole proprietors, and equal partners, so there's no power imbalance, and no other employees to worry about favoritism. The occasional spat might interfere with the work, but not really more than it would have before.
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Perhaps I am just thinking of "density" in the wrong way.
Density is mathematically defined as something's mass divided by how much space it takes up. Submarines are heavy, sure, but they take up more space than the same weight of water, so they're less dense, and they float. In fact, they change their depth by taking parts of their volume taken up by air and replacing them with heavier water, which increases their density so they sink.
I don't mean to interrupt the thread by continuing with the physics, but I'm an engineering major with little to no relationship experience so this is what I can contribute to the convo at the moment :psyduck:
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Okay, I don't have much (okay any) experience with relationships, but...I don't really see the need to discuss anything...?
"Will being lovers interfere with being business partners?"
They don't need the health talk or the baby-proofing talk.
Basically this. They are business partners first and foremost. There are several logistical reasons why most companies I've worked for discourage "fraternization" between employees outside of work (unless its on an approved job function) every company I've worked for expressly forbade relationships when one employee had seniority over another
Aside from that, any on-screen discussion would be for the benefit of the audience. They are, as far as we know in the QC-verse, an entirely unique couple
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Beyond that, I can't think of anything. They're the sole proprietors, and equal partners, so there's no power imbalance, and no other employees to worry about favoritism. The occasional spat might interfere with the work, but not really more than it would have before.
There is also that whole "we are a shop that exists solely for the purpose of robotics repair and a portion of our customer base may not approve of our relationship" thing that may end up being an issue.
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Beyond that, I can't think of anything. They're the sole proprietors, and equal partners, so there's no power imbalance, and no other employees to worry about favoritism. The occasional spat might interfere with the work, but not really more than it would have before.
There is also that whole "we are a shop that exists solely for the purpose of robotics repair and a portion of our customer base may not approve of our relationship" thing that may end up being an issue.
They have a lot to consider. Their immediate social circle is one thing when it comes to approval. EX: Both Tai and Claire appear to have been "shipping" this for some time. Marten and Dora are obviously aware and others (like Clinton) obviously had their suspicions
But what about outside their immediate social circle? Like I said, they might possibly be a unique couple
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Uhh...I would have thought they were FRIENDS first and foremost?
They're not going to make out in the middle of the shop. They aren't going to do that and make everyone uncomfortable. While it's true that they did it that one time, they won't again.
Okay, fine. I guess there are things to discuss... "So let's agree, no PDA in the shop, it makes customers uncomfortable." "Okay."
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I was so busy thinking about the humans who disapprove that I didn't even stop to consider the AIs who don't approve, I'm sure there are plenty of them. I want to think that Jeremy, Seven, Punchbot would be supportive. May obviously always shipped it. I can't imagine Momo being a jerk about it, since she had a crush on Sven. And Winslow is such a sweetie that I can't imagine him having an issue. But I'm sure there are AIs who would be assholes about it. Can they just not appear in the comic, because that would be great...
Roko, well, she likes human abs, so yeah.
It's funny noticing how many AIs actually have crushes on humans.
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Uhh...I would have thought they were FRIENDS first and foremost?
Once a friendship becomes romantic whether you want it to or not everything changes. We will see if those changes are for the better or not. (I hope they are)
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
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Uhh...I would have thought they were FRIENDS first and foremost?
They're not going to make out in the middle of the shop. They aren't going to do that and make everyone uncomfortable. While it's true that they did it that one time, they won't again.
Okay, fine. I guess there are things to discuss... "So let's agree, no PDA in the shop, it makes customers uncomfortable." "Okay."
If they have an argument about their relationship, how will it impact their work performance? If they have an argument about the business, how will it impact their home life? What if, heaven forbid, they break up? How will that impact the shop? Will one of them leave? Who?
Will they even talk about work at home? Will they talk about home at work?
What about PDAs? OK, so no sloppy make-outs in the shop. What about kissing that doesn't rise to that level? Hugging? Touching Bubbles's butt? (HA! Bubble butt!)
And that's just making their work/home life balance work. They also need to talk about any anxieties they're bringing with them. Does Faye need a lot of physical affection? Does Bubbles prefer a little distance? How often do they prefer to have sex? (Honestly, that's an issue that can have a big impact on a relationship if one partner wants sex most days and the other is happy having sex once a week). Since they're working and living together, how do they manage having some time apart? And a million other things that they'll think of and we wont.
It's tempting to think that they can take these issues as they come, but knowing what your issues are and having a plan greatly increases a relationship's chances for success. Problems are easier to overcome when you know they're there. It also helps to create a baseline of confronting issues directly and trusting your partner to take them seriously and help resolve them.
So there is a lot to talk about. There will always be a lot to talk about. They will need to have a big talk tomorrow and the day after and the day after that. I mean, not literally every day, but that kind of communication needs to be ongoing for the life of the relationship.
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Yep. He's not in the comic much, and it seems like he's not really involved with any of the main characters other than Pintsize. It's not like he's going to stop by the shop and see Faye and Bubbles making out. But if he did, yes, he'd have some choice, colorful words to say about it. Now I'm reminded of the robot cuss, ASDF (was looking through the archives).
The rules that Bubbles and Faye will make:
Cool it on the PDA around our friends.
NO PDA in the shop. What happened earlier was just us having a moment, it won't happen again.
No lovers' quarrels in the shop. Strictly professional when we're working.
No breaking the bed. :D
hmm...that's a good start to the list.
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Okay, I'm going to give the cop out answer that they aren't going to have any problems with their business because they rock at it. So they won't argue at home about it because it won't be an issue. : p
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Regarding PDAs that could make some people uncomfortable, especially in relationships that some people would disapprove of, it is very much a thing of context. Some would be mortified or afraid, and some consider them reassuring. It's one of those "Listen to your partner" issues where it's best to figure out what it means before going one way or the other. So, definitely, part of the Talk.
One of my exes wanted PDAs, specifically, in front of people in both our lives, as a statement that "our relationship is not a dirty little secret and we are not ashamed to be seen together." I didn't have a problem with that. It was a need for reassurance and validation that grew out of lessons learned, for her. She'd been in a furtive relationship that nobody wanted to acknowledge, and been treated badly, and was flatly refusing to be somebody's "disposable" or "secret" relationship again.
Anyway, the reaction of people in our lives or the urge to keep things secret was a possible issue with us because her skin was a different color than mine (and that mattered to a few people around there at the time) and it had been an issue with the previous lover who hurt her because that had been a same-sex relationship.
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On another note, am I crazy or did anyone besides me think that Faye letting Bubbles walk in when she wasn't wearing pants was her way of trying to bring things to a conclusion? Turned out it was the back rub, but I feel like the "You said you were decent!" thing was Faye being a little mischievous.
I read that as just Faye being fairly clueless. She likely read Bubbles' discomfiture as some sort of prudishness, not attraction.
And Faye wasn't actually nekkid or anything -- she's walked around in front of Marten in a t-shirt and underwear.
And let's not forget Faye's history -- she is remarkably good at and stubborn about ignoring and diverting the contents of her own head. Up to a point.
Overall, this relationship is built on very solid foundations. They've both become much healthier and stronger people, thanks to each other and all they've experienced. Heck, they even figured out how to resolve conflict in healthy ways. How many human couples ever get that right?
They'll continue to "figure it out".
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You know, looking back a couple of days at the poker game, it occurs to me it might be kind of funny and cool to maybe come to some kind of arrangement with other webcomics that have AI characters or sidekicks, and have them all sit down for a poker game now and then, whenever any particular webcomic feels like doing an issue with them.
I don't know too many, personally, since I don't read a lot of webcomics anymore, but you could have Pintsize or Winslow from here, X-Bot from CAD, maybe one of the AIs from Quantum Vibe. Like I said, I don't know of too many bots in webcomics, but I'm sure there's more.
Maybe even have guest cameos from more famous robots, if copyright isn't a big concern; like Bender from Futurama, Rosie from The Jetsons, Robot from Lost in Space, etc.
im sure David Willis wouldn't object to Ultracar(la). Some of the others in the cast have survived the Soggies.
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
Yeah, but PT410x has problems with just about everyone.
Density is mathematically defined as something's mass divided by how much space it takes up. Submarines are heavy, sure, but they take up more space than the same weight of water, so they're less dense, and they float. In fact, they change their depth by taking parts of their volume taken up by air and replacing them with heavier water, which increases their density so they sink.
I don't mean to interrupt the thread by continuing with the physics, but I'm an engineering major with little to no relationship experience so this is what I can contribute to the convo at the moment
Don't apologize on my account. I understand broad concepts, such as the principles by which a submarine surfaces and submerges (and the difference between diving under propulsion and simply changing depth using the ballast tanks), but I'm not an engineering (or any other science) major, so simple terms like "density" have serious technical definitions that I've never actually needed to know. It honestly feels a bit silly, since my personal vocabulary is rather large, to not know the correct scientific meaning of such a basic term. Physics was not my strong suit in school.
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You're not in a minority there. The way words get used in common vernacular often differ wildly to how the same words get used in engineering terms. I think it's because words in physics and engineering contexts have to be precise and predictable because the whole point of the field is to describe phenomena as precisely and predictably as possible, whereas trying to hold that level of precision and predictability in casual conversation is difficult, unnecessary, and boring. In fact, I'm pretty sure pedants (like me!) Are just folks who are bothered by that gap in precision. Some common examples are mass vs weight, heat vs temperature, acceleration vs deceleration, centrifugal vs centripetal. The list goes on for a long while.
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The discussion is happening, but it's being expressed in the form of interpretive dance
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I want to point out that Jeeves was Bertie Wooster's valet, not his butler. Though I am told that he could butle with the best of them.
Similar social standing, though, in a tier that could generally afford bowlers but probably not Homburgs.
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You know, looking back a couple of days at the poker game, it occurs to me it might be kind of funny and cool to maybe come to some kind of arrangement with other webcomics that have AI characters or sidekicks, and have them all sit down for a poker game now and then, whenever any particular webcomic feels like doing an issue with them.
I don't know too many, personally, since I don't read a lot of webcomics anymore, but you could have Pintsize or Winslow from here, X-Bot from CAD, maybe one of the AIs from Quantum Vibe. Like I said, I don't know of too many bots in webcomics, but I'm sure there's more.
Maybe even have guest cameos from more famous robots, if copyright isn't a big concern; like Bender from Futurama, Rosie from The Jetsons, Robot from Lost in Space, etc.
im sure David Willis wouldn't object to Ultracar(la). Some of the others in the cast have survived the Soggies.
I've had Ultracar and Malaya on my mind since Bubbles and Faye just got intimate and the questions surrounding that. As I recall Ultracar really didn't care for Malaya to do anything to her chassis, but didn't mind using her servos to pleasure her and it was a sexual relationship that worked for them. Perhaps it's the same with Bubbles. She doesn't need Faye to do anything we'd recognize as sexual conduct to her chassis except enjoy what pleasure Bubbles provides.
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On another note, am I crazy or did anyone besides me think that Faye letting Bubbles walk in when she wasn't wearing pants was her way of trying to bring things to a conclusion? Turned out it was the back rub, but I feel like the "You said you were decent!" thing was Faye being a little mischievous.
I read that as just Faye being fairly clueless. She likely read Bubbles' discomfiture as some sort of prudishness, not attraction.
And Faye wasn't actually nekkid or anything -- she's walked around in front of Marten in a t-shirt and underwear.
And let's not forget Faye's history -- she is remarkably good at and stubborn about ignoring and diverting the contents of her own head. Up to a point.
Overall, this relationship is built on very solid foundations. They've both become much healthier and stronger people, thanks to each other and all they've experienced. Heck, they even figured out how to resolve conflict in healthy ways. How many human couples ever get that right?
They'll continue to "figure it out".
I got along great with my college roommates but yes I definitely saw more hairy asscrack than I ever intended
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Sometimes it's possible to be non-technical and clear.
Momo walks underwater. If she was an organic we would say she was heavy for her size.
Bubbles is much larger than Momo. If she were organic we would (presumably) say she was heavy for her size. So, she's heavy compared to what you'd expect of an organic the same large size, and you'd expect such an organic to be pretty heavy.
300 pounds would not surprise me, and somewhere around that range you can't automatically assume furniture can deal with you.
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I've had Ultracar and Malaya on my mind since Bubbles and Faye just got intimate and the questions surrounding that. As I recall Ultracar really didn't care for Malaya to do anything to her chassis, but didn't mind using her servos to pleasure her and it was a sexual relationship that worked for them. Perhaps it's the same with Bubbles. She doesn't need Faye to do anything we'd recognize as sexual conduct to her chassis except enjoy what pleasure Bubbles provides.
While an android would not experience things the same way humans do, the more humanoid models like Bubbles have very acute sensors that can detect even the gentlest touch, such as running one’s fingers along their arm, and the AI mind would be able to interpret that as a pleasurable sensation.
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Sometimes it's possible to be non-technical and clear.
Momo walks underwater. If she was an organic we would say she was heavy for her size.
Bubbles is much larger than Momo. If she were organic we would (presumably) say she was heavy for her size. So, she's heavy compared to what you'd expect of an organic the same large size, and you'd expect such an organic to be pretty heavy.
300 pounds would not surprise me, and somewhere around that range you can't automatically assume furniture can deal with you.
To be fair to Momo, I could do nothing in the water except walk on the bottom (and I could do that quite well) until I was 17 years old, when I finally learned to keep myself afloat and swim. So in her case, it could very well be that she simply does not know how to swim. Her weight and density may be completely irrelevant.
Someone a week or two ago speculated that Bubbles was 400 pounds, and questioned the structural integrity of their bed. My wimpy little twin bed is rated for 500 pounds. Faye’s bed is bigger than mine. So I looked up full (double) sized and queen sized beds to see. The first couple beds I found in either size — just simple wood-framed beds — were rated for 800 pounds. So I have no doubts about Faye’s bed being able to handle the two of them on it (because I doubt Bubbles weighs more than 300 pounds). Besides, we’ve seen the two of them lying together on the bed a long time ago.
Edit: I just realized that my diatribe on the strength of Faye’s bed sort of ignores the first line of your post — the line about being non-technical. ::)
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Today's comic seems almost bittersweet, as in:
"Yeah, sooner or later we have to come to the serious part... but not yet..!"
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I've got the feeling that basically Faye and Bubbles agreed that the serious, self-aware talk about relationships, boundaries and at what point do we determine if this is just lust or something deeper has to happen. However, they're going to focus on all the new fun activities that they've discovered first.
FWIW, there are plenty of RL examples of couples who are able to operate small businesses together and without problems. However, there will always be the potential for any professional disagreement to become personal. "You don't seem to doubt my workmanship in bed!" or something similarly stupid that you could really expect Faye to come out with if she was angry and/or upset. However, curiously, being in a relationship actually increases the likelihood that they'd end up resolving the matter sensibly because they'd have that much longer to discuss it sensibly and far more to lose if they can't.
With regards to AI intolerance, I suspect that a lot will depend on what Pintsize says at the poker game. Remember: AIs seem to have their own IM network so anything he says that's a sufficiently juicy bit of gossip will radiate outwards into the general AI community at a significant portion of the speed of light with the accuracy of said gossip dropping by 50% with every new iteration.
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
Yeah, but PT410x has problems with just about everyone.
Density is mathematically defined as something's mass divided by how much space it takes up. Submarines are heavy, sure, but they take up more space than the same weight of water, so they're less dense, and they float. In fact, they change their depth by taking parts of their volume taken up by air and replacing them with heavier water, which increases their density so they sink.
I don't mean to interrupt the thread by continuing with the physics, but I'm an engineering major with little to no relationship experience so this is what I can contribute to the convo at the moment
Don't apologize on my account. I understand broad concepts, such as the principles by which a submarine surfaces and submerges (and the difference between diving under propulsion and simply changing depth using the ballast tanks), but I'm not an engineering (or any other science) major, so simple terms like "density" have serious technical definitions that I've never actually needed to know. It honestly feels a bit silly, since my personal vocabulary is rather large, to not know the correct scientific meaning of such a basic term. Physics was not my strong suit in school.
Just to make sure. A submarine only needs as much ballast as to make its (average) density equal to that of the sea (depends slightly on salinity and such). It most emphatically does not need more ballast to go deeper. This is because the density of sea water does not really depend all that much on the depth. Captain Nemo explained this to professor Aronnax in 20000 leagues. You control a submarine's depth by steering (once you have matched the densities).
Water is very different from air because it is, for the practical purposes, incompressible. Ok, the density does increase a little as you dive deeper, but the change is so minute.... let me refer you to an expert instead. (https://physics.stackexchange.com/q/119636/21503)
If you knew all this I apologize for the waste of time and bandwidth.
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Regarding PDAs that could make some people uncomfortable, especially in relationships that some people would disapprove of, it is very much a thing of context. Some would be mortified or afraid, and some consider them reassuring. It's one of those "Listen to your partner" issues where it's best to figure out what it means before going one way or the other. So, definitely, part of the Talk.
One of my exes wanted PDAs, specifically, in front of people in both our lives, as a statement that "our relationship is not a dirty little secret and we are not ashamed to be seen together." I didn't have a problem with that. It was a need for reassurance and validation that grew out of lessons learned, for her. She'd been in a furtive relationship that nobody wanted to acknowledge, and been treated badly, and was flatly refusing to be somebody's "disposable" or "secret" relationship again.
Anyway, the reaction of people in our lives or the urge to keep things secret was a possible issue with us because her skin was a different color than mine (and that mattered to a few people around there at the time) and it had been an issue with the previous lover who hurt her because that had been a same-sex relationship.
Yeah context is key. If My currently non existent girlfriend said she didn't want to kiss me i public because it made people uncomfortable it would really f@#£ing hurt. PDA has frequently been nixed in romances of mine for "discomfort" and then it's either being ashamed of me or ashamed of being gay or both.
I just can't think of a way Faye and Bubbles giving eachother a romantic peck or even a few butterfly kisses would make someone uncomfortable...... Unless it's because Faye is human, or bcause they are both women, or because they are both Big girls or all of the above.
I still remember years and years ago having someone go off on me because after she had no problem at all with holding my hand she noticed everyone was staring at us and a lot of the looks weren't very nice.
PDA is a whole different ball of wax when it's two women. And I'm sorry if my posts seem mopy today.
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Re "density": I guess a lot of people think of density initially as the property of a material rather than of a non-homogeneous object. Given the existence of tables of the densities of materials, and the inclusion of density in lists of the properties of a material that's not all that surprising. But the wider definition is also correct and has obvious use in engineering, for instance; it may help to think of it as "average density" in that usage.
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Fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh ....
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Well, as for density, the practical side is really rather obvious, once you come to look at shipping. Most are made from rather dense materials - though for some "unsinkable" pleasure craft, light materials are used - and yet float.
Of course, the same is true about the other kind of shipping - the denser the individual parts, the less likely the ship is to launch, unless they're combined in the right configuration.
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Sometimes it's possible to be non-technical and clear.
Momo walks underwater. If she was an organic we would say she was heavy for her size.
Bubbles is much larger than Momo. If she were organic we would (presumably) say she was heavy for her size. So, she's heavy compared to what you'd expect of an organic the same large size, and you'd expect such an organic to be pretty heavy.
300 pounds would not surprise me, and somewhere around that range you can't automatically assume furniture can deal with you.
To be fair to Momo, I could do nothing in the water except walk on the bottom (and I could do that quite well) until I was 17 years old, when I finally learned to keep myself afloat and swim. So in her case, it could very well be that she simply does not know how to swim. Her weight and density may be completely irrelevant.
Someone a week or two ago speculated that Bubbles was 400 pounds, and questioned the structural integrity of their bed. My wimpy little twin bed is rated for 500 pounds. Faye’s bed is bigger than mine. So I looked up full (double) sized and queen sized beds to see. The first couple beds I found in either size — just simple wood-framed beds — were rated for 800 pounds. So I have no doubts about Faye’s bed being able to handle the two of them on it (because I doubt Bubbles weighs more than 300 pounds). Besides, we’ve seen the two of them lying together on the bed a long time ago.
Edit: I just realized that my diatribe on the strength of Faye’s bed sort of ignores the first line of your post — the line about being non-technical. ::)
A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150) - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
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No, it's definitely not "just lust." That's crazy. Bubbles and Faye have a very close bond that goes way beyond sexual stuff.
That's why this relationship feels so different. Faye never had such a close friendship with Sven or Angus prior to sleeping with either of them.
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
And you know what? Those guys can go to Ernie’s Garage on King Street for all their health care needs.
Or they can swallow their bigotry and go to skilled robot repair specialists who will give them top-quality care. Their call.
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Right riiiiight, she totally lied! Oh no, this isn't setting a good precedent! Fay-yye!! How could you?
Maaaaaaybe you're overreacting?
Pretty sure all I did was point out that she has insecurities she hasn't addressed yet that she and bubbles will have to work on. Congratulations, she shares that in common with everybody starting a new relationship since the invention of dating.
I think it was more "Faye realizes there is something there, she needs time to sort it out in her head but will then sit down with Bubs to talk it out" than "Faye is lying because she didn't immediately try to jump to The Talk when she got back".
Essentially. The worst possible thing one could say about it is that she omitted mentioning a momentary bit of doubt.
I would even say that not seeing Bubbles at the workshop was the electroshock she needed to make up her mind about what she really wanted, and now that she decided, what she previously thought is mostly irrelevant. Personaly, I don't think people have to confess all their passed irrelevant thoughts (because it was only a thought: Faye said internally she wanted to wait before taking any decison in regard of Bubbles, but it never came to it). I even don't think it would be very healthy.
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Yo feelings are complicated y'all
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Thats why I try to stamp them down and lock them in a little bottle inside a little cabinet, I don't need any more complications, I like things simple.
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When I say make people uncomfortable, I meant full on making out, groping, and so on, not a peck.
It's gonna be tough because they're in the exciting, butterflies stage of their relationship, but they'll have to figure out how to keep their hands off each other.
Granted, some would just giggle if they saw them like that--Tai, Dora and Claire being good examples. But others would be like "ummmm..." Not about them being two women, or a human and an AI, but simply the awkwardness of two people all over each other.
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A sweet memory I wanted to share.
(https://i.imgur.com/bDjmbjC.png)
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
And you know what? Those guys can go to Ernie’s Garage on King Street for all their health care needs.
Or they can swallow their bigotry and go to skilled robot repair specialists who will give them top-quality care. Their call.
I can't see PT410X being overly mean, just curmudgeonly. I don't recall him ever being super mean to anyone, just generally grumpy. He doesn't approve of their relationship, but I can't see him, like, doing something horrible to them, like a hate crime.
It would be nice to see a storyline involving him. It would be nice to see him become a happier person.
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I would imagine AI's like PT410X will have a problem with an AI/human relationship.
And you know what? Those guys can go to Ernie’s Garage on King Street for all their health care needs.
Or they can swallow their bigotry and go to skilled robot repair specialists who will give them top-quality care. Their call.
I can't see PT410X being overly mean, just curmudgeonly. I don't recall him ever being super mean to anyone, just generally grumpy. He doesn't approve of their relationship, but I can't see him, like, doing something horrible to them, like a hate crime.
It would be nice to see a storyline involving him. It would be nice to see him become a happier person.
Wasn't he the robot that was going on about robots being enslaved, and that the free will of robots was just an illusion that was coded in by the oppressors? Doesn't sound curmudgeonly to me. Sounds conspiracy theory nutjob to me.
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A generally harmless tinfoil hat guy.
I don’t seriously see him turning violent.
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A generally harmless tinfoil hat guy.
I don’t seriously see him turning violent.
It's 2032. The new president has just been sworn in...
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A generally harmless tinfoil hat guy.
I don’t seriously see him turning violent.
It's 2032. The new president has just been sworn in...
The U.S. government spends all its money and time on converting everything to Linux and gets nothing else done.
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A generally harmless tinfoil hat guy.
I don’t seriously see him turning violent.
It's 2032. The new president has just been sworn in...
The U.S. government spends all its money and time on converting everything to Linux and gets nothing else done.
They still insist this will be far more efficient once they finish rewriting the code. The Library of Congress goes offline, but at least everyone can play Wesnoth.
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The U.S. government spends all its money and time on converting everything to Linux and gets nothing else done.
The world's open source fanatics see that this conversion has no beneficial effect, and become suicidally depressed at the realisation that they've been wasting their lives.
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What does "PDA" stand for in this context? It's certainly not the bar-code scanners we use at work nor any of the other old-timey appliance called "personal digital assistants" (I think)...
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When I say make people uncomfortable, I meant full on making out, groping, and so on, not a peck.
It's gonna be tough because they're in the exciting, butterflies stage of their relationship, but they'll have to figure out how to keep their hands off each other.
Granted, some would just giggle if they saw them like that--Tai, Dora and Claire being good examples. But others would be like "ummmm..." Not about them being two women, or a human and an AI, but simply the awkwardness of two people all over each other.
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That first sentence makes me blush:) and I'm completely with you on that. Sketch comedy hs poked fun at extreme PDA since Monty Python and yes that would be very awkward!
My response when I see that kind of thing with two people ostensibly of the same gender is to giggle like a 4 year old but yes indeed that is awkward!
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What does "PDA" stand for in this context? It's certainly not the bar-code scanners we use at work nor any of the other old-timey appliance called "personal digital assistants" (I think)...
Public Display of Affection.
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how many times in the past have we seen the scar on Faye's chest? This is the first time I noticed it.
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how many times in the past have we seen the scar on Faye's chest? This is the first time I noticed it.
quite a while... http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=307
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how many times in the past have we seen the scar on Faye's chest? This is the first time I noticed it.
Faye isn't particularly self-conscious about the scar. We tend to see it whenever she's wearing a top with a low-cut neck.
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Hmmm...
Maybe there is more for them to talk about than we first thought.
However much we've discussed and debated how much of a *norm* a Human/AI relationship is, and the many different viewpoints we've seen (mainly AIs being interested in humans and not reall y vice-versa)... there is an added social problem...
The fact that (until recently?) AI/Human coupling was illegal !!
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1900 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1900)
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Today's comic seems almost bittersweet, as in:
"Yeah, sooner or later we have to come to the serious part... but not yet..!"
I read it as carried-away sexual feelings. It's a hazardous state to be in. I'm glad those two are getting to experience it.
"Yeah, sooner or later, but there's something I really want to do together first, and we're already naked"
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how many times in the past have we seen the scar on Faye's chest? This is the first time I noticed it.
Faye isn't particularly self-conscious about the scar. We tend to see it whenever she's wearing a top with a low-cut neck.
The scar is a plot point. Before The Talk with Marten she dodged questions about it.
Will Bubbles ask about it? She might think of a scar on a civilian as something she didn't expect.
On another subject, they've been sharing a room, and Faye was probably thinking of Bubbles as one of those people you can change clothes in front of without sending the wrong message. It could have been emotionally awkward for Bubbles. Maybe she turned her back, but that would not comply with the Principle of Maximum Awkwardness, and Faye might have though it odd.
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A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150) - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
Yes she had a lot of mass there however she was also wearing her armor which probably more than doubled her weight.
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Today's comic seems almost bittersweet, as in:
"Yeah, sooner or later we have to come to the serious part... but not yet..!"
I read it as carried-away sexual feelings. It's a hazardous state to be in. I'm glad those two are getting to experience it.
"Yeah, sooner or later, but there's something I really want to do together first, and we're already naked"
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. :-D
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Fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh ....
Ya know, I also wondered why Bubbles hasn't been venting coolant lately.
We've seen Roko and Bubbles vent (can't recall any other AI venting offhand... maybe Momo when she ran into Sven?) and I think they might only vent when they're conflicted, or are at least temporarily unable to choose the next words or actions - they literally have processors or banks of processors running in opposite directions or looping back and forth or something, so there's some local overheating while the processors work frantically to sort it out. Or something like that. Maybe it would be better described as embarrassment (but then again having no idea of your next action is part of being embarrassed.)
Obviously, Bubbles' emotions are at a very high pitch lately, but they're running the same direction. She's certainly not conflicted or unable to choose what to do next, so no venting. (Roko vented pretty hard when Renee called her out on her bread fetish; she embarrassed and at a loss as to what to do. Ultimately, she bought a bunch of bread and ran away.)
That's my pet theory about venting, anyway; it's triggered by a specific circumstance or condition, not just strong emotion. We'll see whether it holds up.
Just one of those nerdy little details that's fun to ponder, and makes the AI characters a little more real.
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Will Bubbles ask about it? She might think of a scar on a civilian as something she didn't expect.
Why not? Humans are soft and squishy and we get scars all the time. It's certainly not limited to people who have had military service. In fact, it would probably be more surprising to find someone without at least some minor scar at Faye's age and chosen profession of metalworking.
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Will Bubbles ask about it? She might think of a scar on a civilian as something she didn't expect.
Why not? Humans are soft and squishy and we get scars all the time. It's certainly not limited to people who have had military service. In fact, it would probably be more surprising to find someone without at least some minor scar at Faye's age and chosen profession of metalworking.
I would be surprised if Bubbles doesn't know at least the basics about Faye's tragic past.
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A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150) - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
Yes she had a lot of mass there however she was also wearing her armor which probably more than doubled her weight.
Square-cube law. Bubbles has a LOT more volume than her armor; in fact her armor's profile isn't much more bulky than standard-issue police Kevlar, albeit in a full suit style. Even made of a very dense material and backed by ceramic or steel plates, it's a big stretch to it equalling her own mass - as a comparison, EOD suits don't even crack 100 lbs.
I'll also drop in that I'm a broad-shouldered, 6'2" person of dubious but not abysmal physical fitness, and I'm still tapdancing with 300 personally. If someone of Emily's height and build took a flying hammer to my chest, there's no way in HELL I'd remain standing, much less not even sway from the impact, purely because of the laws of physics. Bubbles is stronger, taller, broader-shouldered, and designed to be durable in combat. That comes at a cost in weight. She's AT LEAST 400, probably closer to 500.
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It’s great to see Faye is enjoying her new hookup with the literal engine of imperialst murder!
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Is that what you think of people who sign up to protect your liberty? Sure, the military command make some questionable decisions at times (usually under political pressure, so let's point the finger at the right guys), but the grunts are there to do what is necessary for their country above all.
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In the MMO fanforums I used to moderate I woulda banned an obvious troll like that with a roll of my eyes, and i had a reputation as one of the most lenient mods
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Fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh ....
Ya know, I also wondered why Bubbles hasn't been venting coolant lately.
We've seen Roko and Bubbles vent (can't recall any other AI venting offhand... maybe Momo when she ran into Sven?) and I think they might only vent when they're conflicted, or are at least temporarily unable to choose the next words or actions - they literally have processors or banks of processors running in opposite directions or looping back and forth or something, so there's some local overheating while the processors work frantically to sort it out. Or something like that. Maybe it would be better described as embarrassment (but then again having no idea of your next action is part of being embarrassed.)
Obviously, Bubbles' emotions are at a very high pitch lately, but they're running the same direction. She's certainly not conflicted or unable to choose what to do next, so no venting. (Roko vented pretty hard when Renee called her out on her bread fetish; she embarrassed and at a loss as to what to do. Ultimately, she bought a bunch of bread and ran away.)
That's my pet theory about venting, anyway; it's triggered by a specific circumstance or condition, not just strong emotion. We'll see whether it holds up.
Just one of those nerdy little details that's fun to ponder, and makes the AI characters a little more real.
Momo has been shown to vent also while ready sexy stories that Hannelore had lent to her, I believe. Also, in "angry-embarrassment" she has zapped May, but that was a one time thing and May had it coming. Consequently, she has also answered the question about "Humans + AI = is it weird or OK within the QC world?" for us already--when she was chatting with Sam about kissing and boys. Sam asked if AI and humans ever hooked up and the reply was, more or less that it's not unheard of, but pretty uncommon. And that was mostly for reasons like what constitutes attraction for humans versus AI, physical composition and compatibility, physical sensation interpretation differences, etc.
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Fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh ....
Ya know, I also wondered why Bubbles hasn't been venting coolant lately.
We've seen Roko and Bubbles vent (can't recall any other AI venting offhand... maybe Momo when she ran into Sven?) and I think they might only vent when they're conflicted, or are at least temporarily unable to choose the next words or actions - they literally have processors or banks of processors running in opposite directions or looping back and forth or something, so there's some local overheating while the processors work frantically to sort it out. Or something like that. Maybe it would be better described as embarrassment (but then again having no idea of your next action is part of being embarrassed.)
Obviously, Bubbles' emotions are at a very high pitch lately, but they're running the same direction. She's certainly not conflicted or unable to choose what to do next, so no venting. (Roko vented pretty hard when Renee called her out on her bread fetish; she embarrassed and at a loss as to what to do. Ultimately, she bought a bunch of bread and ran away.)
That's my pet theory about venting, anyway; it's triggered by a specific circumstance or condition, not just strong emotion. We'll see whether it holds up.
Just one of those nerdy little details that's fun to ponder, and makes the AI characters a little more real.
Momo has been shown to vent also while ready sexy stories that Hannelore had lent to her, I believe. Also, in "angry-embarrassment" she has zapped May, but that was a one time thing and May had it coming. Consequently, she has also answered the question about "Humans + AI = is it weird or OK within the QC world?" for us already--when she was chatting with Sam about kissing and boys. Sam asked if AI and humans ever hooked up and the reply was, more or less that it's not unheard of, but pretty uncommon. And that was mostly for reasons like what constitutes attraction for humans versus AI, physical composition and compatibility, physical sensation interpretation differences, etc.
Specifically, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2958 - she vents from her ears, not her neck, but it's still fweee.
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Specifically, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2958 - she vents from her ears, not her neck, but it's still fweee.
Thank you. I have neither the talent nor the patience to look such things up.
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Potentially interesting plotline: Faye's mom.
She didn't react well to Amanda being lesbian at first (although that had a lot to do with circumstance surrounding when and how she found out). She came around quickly, but it was still a coming around process. How is she going to react to her other daughter not only being in a same-sex relationship, but a relationship with an AI?
I don't know if that's a story Jeph cares to tell, but if he *does* want to do a story about dealing with that kind of reaction...
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Potentially interesting plotline: Faye's mom.
She didn't react well to Amanda being lesbian at first (although that had a lot to do with circumstance surrounding when and how she found out). She came around quickly, but it was still a coming around process. How is she going to react to her other daughter not only being in a same-sex relationship, but a relationship with an AI?
I don't know if that's a story Jeph cares to tell, but if he *does* want to do a story about dealing with that kind of reaction...
I wonder how often he reads the forums, reads something and says "hmmm, well, okay, yeah, that's interesting/that has a point" and incorporates it?
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We may meet Faye’s mom for the first time. My feeling? She’s not going to react well to the relationship and she’s going to say some incredibly hurtful things. Faye won’t call her out on it and Bubbles will be mad and ask Faye whose side she’s on.
I can see Faye’s mom really causing some problems.
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
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Oh dammit. You're right. I apparently forget everything...
Did Amanda say she's never having kids?
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I think it was more assumed but my archive-fu isn't exactly strong.
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
Perhaps, but Faye’s mother doesn’t seem to be all that involved in her life. They’re not estranged nor so attached that if she cut her off she’d be devastated.
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
Women in lesbian relationships can and do have kids. And as I recall from another comic that I can’t locate at the moment, Faye was at least open to the idea of having kids. All she needs is a sperm donor. And Bubbles would make a fantastic second mom.
That, however, is a story arc for the future. Possibly the future of an alternate universe.
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I've imagined the conversation with her mom including "Mom, you have been so anxious about me. Nobody, absolutely nobody, could have my back like Bubbles. Please talk to her. I think you'll like her."
It says things about their immediate circle of friends that none of them is even startled at a mixed relationship. Not surprising things, but praiseworthy things.
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
Women in lesbian relationships can and do have kids. And as I recall from another comic that I can’t locate at the moment, Faye was at least open to the idea of having kids. All she needs is a sperm donor. And Bubbles would make a fantastic second mom.
That, however, is a story arc for the future. Possibly the future of an alternate universe.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT TECHNOLOGY
And additionally "Fuck yeah two moms"
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Bubbles blushed so much that I was surprised that she was so comfortable being the way she's been. Those kisses were ...wow! And then, spooning. I wonder if Bubbles blushed all that time simply because she thought Faye didn't like her back. Because she felt embarrassed about her feelings. I've definitely felt that way before.
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Hmm. Speaking of which, we've heard nothing from Marten's dad and stepdad lately!
Bring them back, Jeph!
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
Women in lesbian relationships can and do have kids. And as I recall from another comic that I can’t locate at the moment, Faye was at least open to the idea of having kids. All she needs is a sperm donor. And Bubbles would make a fantastic second mom.
That, however, is a story arc for the future. Possibly the future of an alternate universe.
Most of the women I've known in lesbian marriages had children—either from a previous relationship or with their spouse via insemination or adoption.
Faye's (and probably Bubbles) still has much to figure out before she's ready to embark on parenthood...not that being "ready" actually deters some people.
Hey, a bit OT, but what would we call Faye's and Bubbles' relationship beyond lesbian/gay? Would it be robot/human or synthetic/organic or something else super inclusive for the situation?
I'd like to know out of curiosity, but I also want to make some fan art. :)
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We have met Faye's mom! She seemed nice, but may not be super cool with the idea that Faye is dating a woman, let alone an AI woman. She wants grandchildren and Amanda sure isn't about to provide any.
Faye is crazier than a mule on a Ferris wheel. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=588)
Women in lesbian relationships can and do have kids. And as I recall from another comic that I can’t locate at the moment, Faye was at least open to the idea of having kids. All she needs is a sperm donor. And Bubbles would make a fantastic second mom.
That, however, is a story arc for the future. Possibly the future of an alternate universe.
They absolutely can and do. Not only do they have the option of having a sperm donor, they can also adopt, although that option is once again under attack (https://apnews.com/2a773056578c4728a06ae98982095dc6). I only mentioned it because Faye's mom mentioned it as her only specific reason for disapproving of Amanda's sexuality and that I think it will come up again if she objects to Faye and Bubbles's relationship.
Hey, a bit OT, but what would we call Faye's and Bubbles' relationship beyond lesbian/gay? Would it be robot/human or synthetic/organic or something else super inclusive for the situation?
I'd like to know out of curiosity, but I also want to make some fan art. :)
There was a related conversation happening in this (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34087) thread, but it meanders a bit. I like synthetic/organic myself.
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Furthermore there is my headcannon that Spookybot is Bubbles and Faye's offspring or descendant sent back from the future and is watching over their progenitors.
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She could end up with tons of grandchildren for all she knows...
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New one's up, and Jeph pokes fun at us. Brutally accurate fun. :laugh:
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I feel chastened, yet unrepentant.
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Marten/Claire and Dora/Tai are alternate universe versions of the same couple.
Edit to avoid double posting: Also I'm pretty sure in this strip the readers represent Jeph because we know. we know.
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I feel chastened, yet unrepentant.
Saaaaame
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Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
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If anything happens to Union Robotics we know that Bubbles could be a pretty decent massage therapist. And Faye could teach metalworking classes.
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Furthermore there is my headcannon that Spookybot is Bubbles and Faye's offspring or descendant sent back from the future and is watching over their progenitors.
My theory is that Spookybot was created by the military to control the Pintsize style combat chassis and that Bubbles's unit was charged with shutting them down if they went rogue. That's how the enemy forces were able to generate an emp specifically calibrated to disable Bubbles (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3463), sort of like a specific power Spookybot is known to possess. It would also explain why Bubbles knows how distributed AI function and why Spookybot expected her to know what they were. Spookybot took a liking to Bubbles during the operation and thus spared her during their escape.
Totally speculation. No support at all in the text. But I like it.
*New comic went up while I was posting*
Jeph has definitely been reading the forums...
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Jeph has definitely been reading the forums...
I've seen him post now and again, he definitely reads the forums.
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Well, I mean, I figured it was a given that he reads. Just curious if he's ever had a "that's cool let's do it" moment from reading some of the theory stuff that gets posted.
On a slightly similar note I always get a kick out of people saying "headcannon" instead of "headcanon" and so thus end up picturing someone with a giant cannon for a head. I suppose that could account for some folks blowing their top sometimes. /badpun
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Oh I purposely perpetuate the use of headcannon over headcanon simply because I like the visual.
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Oh I purposely perpetuate the use of headcannon over headcanon simply because I like the visual.
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/new.png)
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It's actually kind of funny but unsurprising to see Marten and Dora of a like mind on this.
I'm with them, in case it isn't completely obvious. 8-)
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I have the STRONGEST urge to make a "Bubbles' Head-Cannon" joke but I will refrain. It is hard.
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Oh I purposely perpetuate the use of headcannon over headcanon simply because I like the visual.
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/new.png)
Carbon-dating myself, but...
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/deusex/images/c/cf/GuntherHermann_infolink.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140909120548&path-prefix=en) That is not headcannon. That is Skul Gun.
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It's actually kind of funny but unsurprising to see Marten and Dora of a like mind on this.
I'm with them, in case it isn't completely obvious. 8-)
Same here.
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I've been following QC since 2010, and I knew one day the subject of AI/human romance would have to come up. If the AIs are real people, then I figured that perhaps they would one day seek out intimate companionship. I thought, however, that the introduction of love, sexuality and intimacy would have been introduced between two AIs, rather than between an AI and a human. The latter form of story arch was too fraught with potential cringe-worthy moments and accusations of prurient "fan service."
A pairing between Momo and Marten Reed, for example, would be problematic to say the least, no matter how delicately it was handled. It would seem too close to a bad sort of anime story. Similarly, a human female paired romantically with an AI "male" character would have another possible set of connotations that could detract from the underlying theme of mutual intimacy if it were our first introduction to such a relationship.
The subject of AI/human romance had to emerge at some point in a comic strip set in a world where humans and sapient AIs coexist as equal agents. Jeph Jacques established the groundwork for a romantic relationship between Bubbles and Faye over many, many months. He established the mutual respect, affection, professional interaction, motivations and underlying psychology rather carefully. By the time the reveal happened, most of us were thinking "well, duh, what took you so long?" There was no shock value for the sake of shock value, no prurient titillation or "fan service" involved.
I figure Jeph Jacques handled the introduction of this matter quite well.
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It's actually kind of funny but unsurprising to see Marten and Dora of a like mind on this.
I'm with them, in case it isn't completely obvious. 8-)
I've seen it in real life so my thought at the moment is that when each couple gets home again both Dora and Martin are going to get jumped, hard, by their partners needing to let out their own romantic frustrations :angel:
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I believe Marten's exact words were "fuckin' go for it, buddy."
and I couldn't agree more, life is too short we all should take opportunity as it comes.
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"I'd rather regret something I did than something I didn't do".
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Long time ago we had a poster here who had a headcannon as his avatar.
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Jeph has definitely been reading the forums...
Totally.
Hi, Jeph! *waves*
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Jeph has definitely been reading the forums...
Totally.
Hi, Jeph! *waves*
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Oooh funny if that was Jeph.... pleaseletitbejeph.... pleaseletitbejeph
*click*
citizenfive
Ah well. It was a long shot.
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Jeph has definitely been reading the forums...
Totally.
Hi, Jeph! *waves*
Seems he may have missed a few comments, though.
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Long time ago we had a poster here who had a headcannon as his avatar.
DSL.
(https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=8854;type=avatar)
He had a different headcannon avatar before this one, this is the most recent. I like the way it turns the usual idea around.
I been here too long. Been absent even longer... I barely know anybody anymore.
Not that anything's really changed, mind you!
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To be fair to Momo, I could do nothing in the water except walk on the bottom (and I could do that quite well) until I was 17 years old, when I finally learned to keep myself afloat and swim. So in her case, it could very well be that she simply does not know how to swim. Her weight and density may be completely irrelevant.
Someone a week or two ago speculated that Bubbles was 400 pounds, and questioned the structural integrity of their bed. My wimpy little twin bed is rated for 500 pounds. Faye’s bed is bigger than mine. So I looked up full (double) sized and queen sized beds to see. The first couple beds I found in either size — just simple wood-framed beds — were rated for 800 pounds. So I have no doubts about Faye’s bed being able to handle the two of them on it (because I doubt Bubbles weighs more than 300 pounds). Besides, we’ve seen the two of them lying together on the bed a long time ago.
A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150) - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
Yes, I estimate Momo is around 100 lbs at most. I weighed less than that when I was a teenager (I was only 4'8" when I was 14).
I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. So I am guessing (which is all I can do) that Bubbles is probably not more than 150% of that. With her armour, possibly closer to 400. Anything more than that would have been problematic for a military combat android.
I'm guessing Emily is around 125 lbs, only because I know a couple girls who are about the same height and build as Emily, and that's what they weigh. When 125 lbs hits 400 lbs with a rubber mallet, the 400 lb person isn't going to move much, unless the 125 lb person is moving a lot faster than Emily was.
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"In this comic, Tai and Claire represent the readers"
Some of the readers, Jeph - not all... :wink:
...Because some of the readers aren't particularly concerned one way or the other about a Bubbles/Faye relationship, and some of the readers just don't like shipping and the whole "I like the idea of these two characters getting together therefore so shall it be"... :-P
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I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. ...
Whoa, what? I'm 5'7" and over 200 lbs. While slightly portly and male (38" waist), I'm also still a sinker, I cross my legs and sit on the bottom of the pool (much to the entertainment of children).
Females are often more buoyant due to a difference in body fat, and may well weigh a bit less, but I challenge you to find a solidly built 6'8" female in the neighborhood of 200 lbs. My svelte 5'3" daughter is 150 lbs easy (she ran track, athletes tend to be denser).
I can easily see Bubbles at 350.
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If I might summon my inner BenRG again? Cheers, bud, for lettin' me borrow your spirit like that.
So how I was saying 'good relationships show what they offer to each other what no one else does', right? I like that today's comic shows
1: That Dora and Marten grew more as people without each other, than with. They're still good friends, but they've obviously found better partners suited for them.
2: Why they seemed like a good idea in the first place. It shows how they're good with each other, if not for each other.
And it did it on a strip talking about the complicated nature of the relationship Faye and Bubbles are in. You see three romantic relationships outlined here, and the main pairing doing the talking is the one that went south.
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"In this comic, Tai and Claire represent the readers"
Some of the readers, Jeph - not all... :wink:
...Because some of the readers aren't particularly concerned one way or the other about a Bubbles/Faye relationship, and some of the readers just don't like shipping and the whole "I like the idea of these two characters getting together therefore so shall it be"... :-P
I usually agree with you about shipping. Deciding you like the idea of two people being together and squealing about "OTPs" and whatnot is annoying to me and kind of creepy. Just look at how hurtful it was to Clinton when Claire tried to push him into a relationship with Emily. That was super not cool. But I also feel that shipping has its place. For some, it's about being excited about the possibility of being represented in their favorite media. For some, it's the same kind of speculation as any other speculation we do. "How will [character] handle [situation]?" "What are the long term implications of [action]?" "How will [characters'] relationship develop?"
The Faye x Bubbles relationship has been hinted at for almost as long as Bubbles has been in the comic and the emotional payoff has been delayed for years. This has been the typical "will they/won't they" dynamic of many American sitcoms (though handled far better than almost any television writers have ever managed in my opinion). For people who are as excited about relationships as other people are about non-romantic tension, this moment is as powerful as a series finale when the wayward hero finally defeats the big bad and returns home at the end of season 7. The cheers and squeals from the audience are positively deafening right now.
I get that you're not into the shipping part of this. That's cool. Neither am I, really. But there's always next week. Jeph has managed to create a slice of life comic that has a lot of different things to offer. Right now, we can let the shippers have their moment. Next week (or so) we can go back to watching Brun worry about her brand of deodorant. I'm just really enjoying watching how excited Fayelovesbubbles is about it all.
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New one's up, and Jeph pokes fun at us. Brutally accurate fun. :laugh:
And richly deserved.
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Today illustrates just how creepy shipping real people can be. That said, I think it's ironic that two women who are as 'chalk and cheese' as Claire and Tai are in so many ways have exactly the same approach to personal boundaries when it comes to matter of romance! FWIW, I do not consider myself one of those fans, at least I hope that I'm not. You will notice that I've managed to avoid going 'SQUEE' or even gushing very much!
However, we are reminded that Marten was originally very much Jeph's SI and and to this day is occasionally his voice in the strip.
Meanwhile, Dora and Marten are (again) having to be the adults in the room. It sort of illustrates the tragedy of the Dorapocalypse: But for Dora's crippling insecurities, she and Marten probably would have ended up lasting long-term given how similar they are in so many ways. Instead, even now with Tai, Dora occasionally has to confront bursts of paranoid ideation.
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I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. ...
Whoa, what? I'm 5'7" and over 200 lbs. While slightly portly and male (38" waist), I'm also still a sinker, I cross my legs and sit on the bottom of the pool (much to the entertainment of children).
Females are often more buoyant due to a difference in body fat, and may well weigh a bit less, but I challenge you to find a solidly built 6'8" female in the neighborhood of 200 lbs. My svelte 5'3" daughter is 150 lbs easy (she ran track, athletes tend to be denser).
I can easily see Bubbles at 350.
I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
I had a female friend in high school who was a diver and cheerleader. She was fit, but thin. She was 5'9" and weighed 135 lbs (she swore I couldn't lift her, because I was so skinny - so I did it just to prove her wrong). She was at the very low end of the normal range for her height, but she still wasn't as thin as Emily. (Yes, athletes - especially runners - tend to be more dense, so your daughter's 150 lbs is not too surprising)
The "normal" weight I used for my estimate was the same on several different health websites. I had to extrapolate, since none of their charts actually went up to 6'8" for females. For 6'0", the high weight is 179 lbs, and the chart goes up an average of 3.5 lbs per inch, so the high weight for 6'8" would be 207 lbs.
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#NOTALLREADERS
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As I think their is much more drama to be had from a failing/failed relationship I hope it does not work. I really don't want another happy couple put on the happy couple shelf to make space for another new character. I really find it hard top get invested in some ofthe recent characters who seem to have been spewed out with a 3 word summary rather than a genuine description. Melons - she is kooky, Tilly - They are they, Roko - Cop fetishizes bread.
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FWIW, I think that equating 'drama' with 'relationship failure' is erroneous and I totally reject that it is necessary. If anything, I find it cliché, unimaginative and knee-jerk.
Nothing personal, I just don't think that it automatically adds anything to the strip.
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Haha, I feel a little embarrassed now. Yes, over the past year and a half my avatar has been various moments with Faye and Bubbles. My username ...well, let's just say I got some messages from people who were less than pleased about it.
One thing I like about my username is that it was the unknown quantity. I knew that Bubbles loved Faye for quite some time, but truth is, until almost now nobody had any idea if my username was true or not. I'm not sure why I chose this instead of bubbleslovesfaye, but maybe it's because we were all waiting to find out. Well, the shippers anyway.
I will be honest: I was preparing for Bubbles to end up like Marigold did with Angus. Jeph said he hated having to do that to Marigold, but everything turned out as it should have. And if Faye hadn't felt the same way, I'm sure everything for Bubbles would have gone as it should, and she would have found the right person. I'm happy that Faye was the right person, though. If I'm being honest I don't know how well Bubbles would have been able to recover. My guess, not well. So I'm glad things went this way.
I maintain that I'm not a shipper, I'm just in love with love!
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I've seen quite a few people discussing the activity of 'shippers' here, and a quite a few people seem to have quite strong opinions against it.
What strikes me as odd, is also showing this response to a situation in which - in all honestly - the mutual attraction/affection between these people has been made quite explicitly clear.
Still reactions of excitement and the will they/won't they is responded to in almost equal negativity as if they'd been of the 'out of the blue'-shipping that people are referring to.
I don't think this is an appropriate response here, and I think people should be wary of downplaying people's excitement like this.
When you have two friends, obviously having a crush on each other, finally finding out -- of course you'd be excited.
Everyone wishes love and mutual affection to people you care about. I don't think this is an unhealthy sentiment.
And what I've seen from the large majority of 'shippers' here has been along this line of positive response.
There's no reason why they couldn't be exited, and there's no reason why you'd be in any way 'better' than 'the annoying shippers', just because you don't share this sentiment.
-- and luckily I've also seen many people just enjoying the excitement of others while not sharing it themselves, which -I would say- is the healthier reaction :)
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After reading this comic for so long, the characters do sort of start to feel like friends. Haha. I probably need to get out more.
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To be fair to Momo, I could do nothing in the water except walk on the bottom (and I could do that quite well) until I was 17 years old, when I finally learned to keep myself afloat and swim. So in her case, it could very well be that she simply does not know how to swim. Her weight and density may be completely irrelevant.
Someone a week or two ago speculated that Bubbles was 400 pounds, and questioned the structural integrity of their bed. My wimpy little twin bed is rated for 500 pounds. Faye’s bed is bigger than mine. So I looked up full (double) sized and queen sized beds to see. The first couple beds I found in either size — just simple wood-framed beds — were rated for 800 pounds. So I have no doubts about Faye’s bed being able to handle the two of them on it (because I doubt Bubbles weighs more than 300 pounds). Besides, we’ve seen the two of them lying together on the bed a long time ago.
A couple of points on relative AI mass: Momo is light enough that an average person can lift her. She's also short and slender, same as Winslow - I know a person who is less than 5 feet tall, and they have trouble keeping themselves above 90 pounds. Bubbles is well north of 6 feet, possibly approaching 7, and BUILT. Andre Roussimoff only hit 7'4", and he exceeded 500 lbs easily. Also, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3150) - Bubbles has serious mass, and not all of that is the armor. Either that, or Emily is as diffuse physically as she is mentally and thus gets blown along the streets like an untethered kite.
Yes, I estimate Momo is around 100 lbs at most. I weighed less than that when I was a teenager (I was only 4'8" when I was 14).
I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. So I am guessing (which is all I can do) that Bubbles is probably not more than 150% of that. With her armour, possibly closer to 400. Anything more than that would have been problematic for a military combat android.
I'm guessing Emily is around 125 lbs, only because I know a couple girls who are about the same height and build as Emily, and that's what they weigh. When 125 lbs hits 400 lbs with a rubber mallet, the 400 lb person isn't going to move much, unless the 125 lb person is moving a lot faster than Emily was.
I'll point out http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3521 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3521) - Bubbles is both taller and broader than Elliot, who is the largest human we've seen in QC. Elliot is built like a heavyweight pro wrestler from the 80s and 90s - most of them were in the 280-310 range. I'll also point out Joanie Laurer was 5'10" and weighed 180 - Bubbles has a similar bodytype, but bigger all around. Square-cube law still applies, and with human-style bodies a minor-seeming change in overall dimensions can be a surprising degree of mass. 500 is possibly pushing it, but unless there have been SuperFuture materials-weight advances in the QCverse, she's still going to be heavier than a human of equal dimensions.
Over 300, under 500, split the difference and call her non-armored weight 400. Armor mass would put her up to ~500. Regarding the issues of weight on combat, unless I'm misreading, Bubbles was infantry - not airborne or mounted infantry, 'just' infantry. Even on the rare occasions when she would have to mount up, she is rated and has demonstrated a top speed consistent with the official rated maneuver speed of most military vehicles. If she couldn't mount up, she could keep up - on foot.
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I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
Ah. Your rapid growth may have something to do with that, as the bone density is actually considerably less after a rapid growth spurt like that. I was one of the biggest kids around until 6th grade when I stopped growing at 5'6" and watched everyone pass be by through high school (the last inch wasn't added until I was 25). No rapid growth spurt for me!
The "normal" weight I used for my estimate was the same on several different health websites. I had to extrapolate, since none of their charts actually went up to 6'8" for females. For 6'0", the high weight is 179 lbs, and the chart goes up an average of 3.5 lbs per inch, so the high weight for 6'8" would be 207 lbs.
Well, there's your problem - weight isn't linear with height. As the one dimension (height) increases, so do other dimensions, in other directions, though not as much. If I recall correctly, it's about a 3/2 or 4/3 power, but definitely larger than 1. Not as big as a square power, but definitely not linear. Note the curve to the lines in the graph below (although there's a great deal of disagreement about the cutoff for overweight/obese, the BMI gives a good idea of the volume/mass relationship with height. This graph is for women, BTW).
(http://blog.healthychoicenaturals.com/images/nl/BMI_Chart.gif)
Besides, most of those "height/weight" charts were developed off really old data - from the 30's and 40's when most governments first started collecting it to study nutrition and health - and people have changed a lot since then. Some of the nutritional info that was learned in that research has changed the way we grow so much that we're a much larger species on average than we were!
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Long time ago we had a poster here who had a headcannon as his avatar.
DSL.
(https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=8854;type=avatar)
He had a different headcannon avatar before this one, this is the most recent. I like the way it turns the usual idea around.
I been here too long. Been absent even longer... I barely know anybody anymore.
Not that anything's really changed, mind you!
Aw, Carl-E, I remember you. Hopefully the $ situation has improved?
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Oh, hell no. My retirement fund's almost gone.
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I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
Ah. Your rapid growth may have something to do with that, as the bone density is actually considerably less after a rapid growth spurt like that. I was one of the biggest kids around until 6th grade when I stopped growing at 5'6" and watched everyone pass be by through high school (the last inch wasn't added until I was 25). No rapid growth spurt for me!
Exact same thing happened to me - I was one of the tallest in my year when I started secondary school, but by the time I finished school most people had overtaken me (I'm also 5'6", coincidentally). Oddly, though, I did recently go up a shoe size for the first time in twelve years. Is that something that normally happens in one's mid-twenties?
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Aw, Carl-E, I remember you.
#metwo !
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You've been missed!
The best people from the time you were active are still here so you'll have some "familiar faces".
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Well, there's your problem - weight isn't linear with height. As the one dimension (height) increases, so do other dimensions, in other directions, though not as much. If I recall correctly, it's about a 3/2 or 4/3 power, but definitely larger than 1. Not as big as a square power, but definitely not linear. Note the curve to the lines in the graph below (although there's a great deal of disagreement about the cutoff for overweight/obese, the BMI gives a good idea of the volume/mass relationship with height. This graph is for women, BTW).
(http://blog.healthychoicenaturals.com/images/nl/BMI_Chart.gif)
Besides, most of those "height/weight" charts were developed off really old data - from the 30's and 40's when most governments first started collecting it to study nutrition and health - and people have changed a lot since then. Some of the nutritional info that was learned in that research has changed the way we grow so much that we're a much larger species on average than we were!
I only went by what I found. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. To be honest, that chart makes more sense than the ones I found, which were linear. As the body's weight increases, it must also increase in strength to support the additional weight, so a non-linear increase is logical. Of course, according to that chart, it's still not unreasonable to think Bubbles is around 300 lbs. And I still think that anything heavier than that would have become problematic for a soldier - specifically in regards to equipment and to her fellow soldiers. We may never know for sure... one never asks a woman how much she weighs.
I am male as well. When I was 17, I hit 6'3" (I grew 18" in 18 months - my parents had long given up trying to keep me in clothes that fit). I was 153 lbs for the next 5 years. When I was 22, I started a job that involved a lot of heavy lifting, my upper body got stronger, and I went up to 165, where I stayed for the next 15 years. Now I'm pushing 50, and badly out of shape, and I'm 200 lbs even. My brother, on the other hand, is only 6' tall and in much better shape than me, and he's also 200 lbs. He's very dense.
Ah. Your rapid growth may have something to do with that, as the bone density is actually considerably less after a rapid growth spurt like that. I was one of the biggest kids around until 6th grade when I stopped growing at 5'6" and watched everyone pass be by through high school (the last inch wasn't added until I was 25). No rapid growth spurt for me!
Exact same thing happened to me - I was one of the tallest in my year when I started secondary school, but by the time I finished school most people had overtaken me (I'm also 5'6", coincidentally). Oddly, though, I did recently go up a shoe size for the first time in twelve years. Is that something that normally happens in one's mid-twenties?
When I reached my full height of 6'3" I had also reached my top shoe size. Curiously enough, in my mid thirties, I went down a shoe size.
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One of the best predictors of success in a romantic relationship is having things in common in how the partners were raised and in life histories.
A compatible sense of humor is very important.
Their senses of humor overlap. I doubt that Bubbles's pre-military career had much in common with a childhood as a human in Savannah. What they have in common in their background is disabling trauma, which is not a happy foundation.
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While it may not be a happy foundation per say, they both understand the others trauma in a way that can be very bonding. They also have the shared experiences of them growing together, supporting each other, and trusting the other this is the best sort of foundation a prospective relationship can have.
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Regarding bubbles' weight - I remember someone making an offhand comment about riding a horse (I think? May have been a reindeer?), and Bubbles saying that she'd flatten it. Does that impact the discussions here? :P
Edit - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333). She thinks she'd crush a reindeer.
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I reasoned that Bubbles is roughly 6'8", based on how she passes through doorways in their apartment (assuming they are standard commercial 7' doorways). The upper range for the normal weight of a large-framed human female at that height is just over 200 lbs. ...
Whoa, what? I'm 5'7" and over 200 lbs. While slightly portly and male (38" waist), I'm also still a sinker, I cross my legs and sit on the bottom of the pool (much to the entertainment of children).
Females are often more buoyant due to a difference in body fat, and may well weigh a bit less, but I challenge you to find a solidly built 6'8" female in the neighborhood of 200 lbs. My svelte 5'3" daughter is 150 lbs easy (she ran track, athletes tend to be denser).
I can easily see Bubbles at 350.
I had a female friend in high school who was a diver and cheerleader. She was fit, but thin. She was 5'9" and weighed 135 lbs (she swore I couldn't lift her, because I was so skinny - so I did it just to prove her wrong). She was at the very low end of the normal range for her height, but she still wasn't as thin as Emily. (Yes, athletes - especially runners - tend to be more dense, so your daughter's 150 lbs is not too surprising)
I'm male, 5'9-1/2", never particularly muscular, but I did a fair amount of bicycle riding in college, and when I was 20 my weight ranged from 135 lbs to 140. By the time I was in my mid-thirties I was up to 145 (my first wife thought I still looked kind of gaunt), and then I started taking anti-depressants -- several of which cause increased appetite and weight gain. I'm in my mid-fifties now and I'm around 185-190, but you probably wouldn't guess it right away because my face and arms are still skinny (my waist is about 38" too).
Regarding bubbles' weight - I remember someone making an offhand comment about riding a horse (I think? May have been a reindeer?), and Bubbles saying that she'd flatten it. Does that impact the discussions here? :P
Edit - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333). She thinks she'd crush a reindeer.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that deer/reindeer can't carry riders nearly as well as horses can -- their spines can't support as much weight, or some such thing. So yeah, if that's the case then Bubbles might very well be more than a reindeer could handle.
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Regarding bubbles' weight - I remember someone making an offhand comment about riding a horse (I think? May have been a reindeer?), and Bubbles saying that she'd flatten it. Does that impact the discussions here? :P
Edit - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3333). She thinks she'd crush a reindeer.
I feel like this was slight hyperbole on Bubbles part she does seem to have a dark sense of humor sometimes.
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Data point: When I hit 6'10", and had a build more or less like Elliot's, I weighed 390 pounds. When I got out of shape and flabby, I got up to 430. These days, with a lot less bulk in muscle or fat, I weigh 350 pounds.
People tell me now that I am "normally" proportioned. That they wouldn't guess, until there were something nearby to compare me with, that my size is out of the ordinary in any way. I don't look fat any more, I don't look beefy, I'm just a regular guy who happens to be large.
There are a lot of tall guys who are ectomorphs - for tall guys, being skinny is more common than a "regular" build. If I were proportioned like Marten, I might only be 250 pounds or so.
Bubbles is the same size I was when I graduated, or possibly even slightly larger. As somebody pointed out, she is taller and broader than Elliot. I would be pretty shocked if she occupies less volume than a 330 pound human would. And the armor she was wearing isn't the 100-pound suit of medieval plate - it was heavier than that, and rated for modern weapons fire. I'd bet on it being about 200 pounds worth of dense metal and ceramic.
(Edit: For those who use a sane metrology, I'm 208 cm tall and now mass about 159 kg. At my heaviest I was about 200 kg. If someone my height were actually slender, they'd mass about 115 kg. I'm guesstimating Bubbles' size as being certainly no less than that of a 150-kg human and suppose that her armor probably masses another 90 kg at least.)
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It's amusing that Claire and Tai who are professionally at odds are on the same page when it comes to matters of romance.
And while this can also be construed as creepy there's nothing wrong with chatting about this as long as they ultimately heed Dora and Marten's advice to let this all play out naturally.
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Guys, this whole inches and pounds and feet thing -- can you just take the time to convert that to kilograms and centimeters also? I can't follow. I don't want to have to use a calculator to simply follow a conversation.
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I sympathise - but it can play both ways, remember; and while this forum is quite international, the American members are a distinct majority. On the whole I feel that the conversions are simple enough that they can be done to sufficient accuracy in the head - e.g. 1 kg is roughly 2 lb (2.2 is nearer), so to convert pounds to kilograms its just a matter of halving and then a bit smaller. My browser (Opera) will convert amounts written with abbreviations (but not words) in a pop-up if they are highlighted. E.g.:
(https://cassland.org/images/QC/units1.png) (https://cassland.org/images/QC/units2.png)
Or you can just write/paste the amount (words are accepted) in your browser's Google search box and hit return - no separate calculator needed.
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I was quite interested in that feature until I noticed that it claimed 6'10" equals 15.49 cm. Maybe 6.10 inches equals 15.49cm.
Off the top of my head, I think 6'10" is probably around 205 cm.
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My browser (Opera) will convert amounts written with abbreviations (but not words) in a pop-up if they are highlighted. E.g.:
(https://cassland.org/images/QC/units1.png) (https://cassland.org/images/QC/units2.png)
While the conversion of 6 feet 10 inches to fifteen centimeters is clearly wrong :-P, I didn't know Opera could do that. Neat!
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Look at the bright side, I have an english friend who is always telling me weight in Stones. :evil:
(1 stone = 14 lbs = 6.35 kg My fat old ass is 22 Stone!)
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I just installed a Firefox add-on to do the conversion for me.
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I have a few shortcuts about US measures when it comes to cooking. A cup is 220 ml of olive oil -- with half a lemon, an egg, and a teaspoon of Dijon mustard is 400 ml of mayo. A pound of meat is 450 grams.
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Well, I mean, I figured it was a given that he reads. Just curious if he's ever had a "that's cool let's do it" moment from reading some of the theory stuff that gets posted.
On a slightly similar note I always get a kick out of people saying "headcannon" instead of "headcanon" and so thus end up picturing someone with a giant cannon for a head. I suppose that could account for some folks blowing their top sometimes. /badpun
In Wow:Legion there's a quest for engineers to get and make a Headcannon.
It's a sadly straightforward quest and could have used more humpur but the item itslef always made me laugh.
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I have a few shortcuts about US measures when it comes to cooking. A cup is 220 ml -- when it has to do with the amount of oil in mayonnaise. A pound of meat is 450 grams.
I keep track of a few other ones related to climbing and hiking. 1 inch = 2.54 cm. 1 km = 5/8 mile / 1 mile = 1.6 km. 1 kN = 225 lbf. 98.6 deg F = 37 deg C. 200 lbs (my weight) = 91 kg.
I'm in the US, so I'm used to inches and pounds, but a lot of my gear is measured or rated in metric.
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I'm in the US, so I'm used to inches and pounds, but a lot of my gear is measured or rated in metric.
That's interesting, why is that? I'm also an avid hiker and a caver, also.
EDIT: well, I don't do much caving lately.
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I'm in the US, so I'm used to inches and pounds, but a lot of my gear is measured or rated in metric.
That's interesting, why is that? I'm also an avid hiker and a caver, also.
EDIT: well, I don't do much caving lately.
I never gave it much thought. My best guess is that A: several of the companies (such as Petzl or CAMP) that produce the gear are in Europe, and B: even the US companies realize that it is to their advantage to use the global standard, since many of their customers either live outside the US, or at the very least, travel outside the US to climb.
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I've been following QC since 2010, ... I thought, however, that the introduction of love, sexuality and intimacy would have been introduced between two AIs, rather than between an AI and a human.
What about Jeremy and Number Seven?
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3434
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The real OTP of this comic.
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Welcome, informative new person!
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Well, Hanners and Marigold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1544) doesn't seem so implausible NOW, does it?
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That's still an example of the wrong kind of shipping.
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Well, Hanners and Marigold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1544) doesn't seem so implausible NOW, does it?
Yes. Yes it does. For all the same reasons it ever did. Hannelore and literally any other person seems very implausible. Even though she's becoming less touch averse, body fluids are still an insuperable barrier to kissing and definitely to sexual intimacy. And I really like that about her. She's shown physical attraction to men (fire fighters as I recall) and possibly even arousal, but actually engaging in physical intimacy just isn't her thing. I see a little of myself in that aspect of her.
Also, I assume you were joking, but I simply don't see what the connection is that makes the joke work... :?
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Well, Hanners and Marigold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1544) doesn't seem so implausible NOW, does it?
Yes. Yes it does. For all the same reasons it ever did.
This took a lot longer to find than I thought it would. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2826)
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Well, Hanners and Marigold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1544) doesn't seem so implausible NOW, does it?
Yes. Yes it does. For all the same reasons it ever did.
This took a lot longer to find than I thought it would. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2826)
My only regret is that I have but one like to give. I had forgotten about that incident. I had almost that exact conversation with a friend of mine. She was finishing her basement and I needed a new apartment. She's very clean and organized while I'm... untidy. I did not move into her basement.
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Well, Hanners and Marigold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1544) doesn't seem so implausible NOW, does it?
Yes. Yes it does. For all the same reasons it ever did.
This took a lot longer to find than I thought it would. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2826)
My only regret is that I have but one like to give. I had forgotten about that incident. I had almost that exact conversation with a friend of mine. She was finishing her basement and I needed a new apartment. She's very clean and organized while I'm... untidy. I did not move into her basement.
And thanks to that you're still friends. Aren't you?
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And thanks to that you're still friends. Aren't you?
Yes we are! I told her that I won her in the divorce so I'm keeping her forever.
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Given what we've seen of Faye's other relationships, it isn't surprising that she feels a little overwhelmed. After all, her time with Sven wasn't even really a relationship (although, in hindsight, Sven clearly wishes that it had been) and Angus reacted to the hard questions by attempting to deflect through humour, possibly because he wasn't any more keen than Faye was to confront them. So, yeah, that sudden down after the high is to be expected.
There is a lot being said in the body language here. Faye (in panel 1) and Bubbles (in panel 2) both adopt defensive postures. That said, I do like how they stay together and notice how Faye's body posture changes: She's stark naked and yet doesn't feel any need to protect herself from Bubbles' gaze. Bubbles, meanwhile, shows her reliance on Faye by moving very close to her, possibly into physical contact. The fact that their subconscious (such as it is in Bubbles' case) are so at ease with each other is, IMO, a very good portent for the future of their relationship. It's worth noting that Faye was very nervous about being seen naked by Sven and even with Angus she got dressed the moment she was out of bed; she doesn't have that problem with Bubbles.
Personally, I've got a feeling that this conversation will end with a hug and one of them saying something like this: "I can't make any promises but, as long as it is anything to do with me, we're going to be alright."
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New comic!
Wow, that NRE high faded faster than I thought. I mean, they need to have this conversation, but they have time. They can enjoy the afterglow for a while. That conversation will still be waiting for them tomorrow (or Monday. Stupid weekends).
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Looks like Marten has a friend for life.
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New comic!
Wow, that NRE high faded faster than I thought. I mean, they need to have this conversation, but they have time. They can enjoy the afterglow for a while. That conversation will still be waiting for them tomorrow (or Monday. Stupid weekends).
I love Patreon so much.
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Now we get to see what progress has been made since the post-1st-date-with-Angus panic attack ( http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1740 ), I'm expecting it to go a lot better this time, Faye is better able to cope now than she was then.
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Can I just say...
I love Bubbles... :)
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I had the same immediate thought. Beautiful sentiment, beautiful facial expressions.
Also, I love the undertone of them being nude for this discussion. Fayelovesbubbles said something about Faye having never been more naked, and I think that's exactly right.
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I wonder if Bubbles researched...umm....glass blowing techniques before hand >_>
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3277 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3277)
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Well, that was right on cue. (Faye freaking out at the start of a new relationship).
The art, particularly the facial expressions, is excellent here. I also like how Faye says no very emphatically when Bubbles asks her if she if experiencing regret.
For Bubbles's sake I kind of wish Marten could fill Bubbles in ("oh yeah, Faye typically freaks out at the start of a new relationship") but it's probably not necessary. Bubbles looks like she's handling Faye freaking out pretty well already.
Edit: And as someone said above already, it will be good to see how far Faye has come. I agree that her coping skills have improved a lot but we haven't seen her cope with beginning a new relationship since they've improved.
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Nooooooo! Faye, no!
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I had the same immediate thought. Beautiful sentiment, beautiful facial expressions.
Also, I love the undertone of them being nude for this discussion. Fayelovesbubbles said something about Faye having never been more naked, and I think that's exactly right.
She’s never been more, uh, spiritually naked than she is now.
Them trying to go back to being just friends now would be really difficult. You can’t put that toy back in the box...so to speak...
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Nooooooo! Faye, no!
I wouldn't worry quite yet, this is a very important conversation and they are both acting about as emotionally open as I have ever seen them.
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Considering how the first time Marten and Bubbles meeting went... :lol: they've come a long way! Marten does have a friend for life.
I'll be honest, I was hoping for Faye to be like "omg, I can't feel my legs. I haven't felt this way since..." and Bubbles saying "since?" and her freaking out because of the emotional fallout from her last relationships, being cheated on, etc. I didn't quite expect it to go like this. Dammit, I at least wanted them to enjoy things a little longer.
I also kind of wish Faye had been with a woman before so she'd freak out just a little less. Sigh.
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Looks like Marten has a friend for life.
Yeah. Plus Bubbles likes him now, too.
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(https://i.imgur.com/Q7Mu1va.png)
Girls, I feel you so much.
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I have to agree with the plethora of comments above: the facial expressions here are amazing. Looking back at early QC, there is a certain charm to the old art style, but the art of today is so much better at communicating through more than just dialogue.
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The Foreshadowing over 3 1/2 years ago is insane...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262
Jeph, you crazy S.O.B.
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Hopefully bubbles refrains from power hugging (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2248) marten; if tai managed to crack his sternum, Bubbles would put him in traction.
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Faye seems to be sweating a lot lately!
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I have to agree with the plethora of comments above: the facial expressions here are amazing. Looking back at early QC, there is a certain charm to the old art style, but the art of today is so much better at communicating through more than just dialogue.
Yep, also loving the art. The body language, the facial expressions, the use of space, the little drops of sweat on Faye's face. I mean, yeah, it's a cartoon, but wowzers there's a LOT of great artwork going on here.
Also, somewhat tangentially, I am absolutely loving Bubbles with her hair down. Sure, the business-like ponytail was cute as all-git-out, but when she pulled out her hair tie while talking to Tai... whoo dang.
FWIW, these two were already pretty good at communicating and understanding each other. I think they'll be fine.
Looking forward to a booty dance that may threaten the stability of the earth's orbit.
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And what does "NRE"mean?
Bubbles composition may be the most "organiclike" of any synthetic we've seen, aside from Spookybot who is nearly indistinguishable from organic. May's chassis is essentially a barbie doll http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3175 ; I can't tell for sure, but everything that isn't articulated looks like it's molded plastic or cheap rubber. Bubbles' chassis seems to stretch and move more naturally.
Regarding hair, I vaguely remember it being explained but can't remember exactly what the explanation was. Does synthetic hair "grow" naturally, or is that a cosmetic change that the AI has to make manually?
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Faye seems to be sweating a lot lately!
One does tend to sweat after prolonged vigorous activity. :wink:
Regarding hair, I vaguely remember it being explained but can't remember exactly what the explanation was. Does synthetic hair "grow" naturally, or is that a cosmetic change that the AI has to make manually?
Bubbles said that her hair was a synthetic long-chain polymer. To make it 'grow', she has to soak it in a solution that, as it dries, crystallises out as extensions of the existing polymer chains.
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The Foreshadowing over 3 1/2 years ago is insane...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262
Jeph, you crazy S.O.B.
Welcome, new person with archive skills!
The answer to the other post is that NRE stands for New Relationship Energy.
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How Faye and Bubbles feel about each other: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8
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2262 is going to be the new 1658 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658), isn't it?
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FWIW, strip 1658 is the more important one in terms of the current arc as it establishes that, even in the 'Pet AnthroPC' era, anthrosexuality and anthroromaticism (AIs being attracted to humans) was a thing. Depending on how extravagantly 'out' Faye and Bubbles are, it may be interesting to see if it encourages other couples to be more public in their relationship.
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2262 is going to be the new 1658 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658), isn't it?
And May's crude yet astute observations on the subject of AI libidos in 3302-3305. I shan't repeat it here...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3302
Also where we learn for sure that humanoid AIs have actual mouths.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3304
Splork Splork Splork...
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HAHAHHAHAHA!
Look at Jeph's commont on the bottom of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3303
Jeph, you magnificent ...
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Heh. If Aunt Bettie (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=595) doesn't approve of Amanda's dating habits, maybe Faybles would make her head explode. We can only hope so.
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I've been thinking that having PTX or Aunt Bettie or some other tertiary character show up and Disapprove of Faybles is probably not going to happen, because it would be boring. The tertiary would show up, misquote scripture or whatever, and the rest of the cast would reject bigotry and support Faye X Bubbles.
Those two crazy kids have enough going on to tell lots of stories, without any Very Special Episode shenanigans. And they're mature enough to know it, because they're talking it through in these past few panels.
And the blocking and anatomy are telling as much story as the dialogue. kudos
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I've been thinking that having PTX or Aunt Bettie or some other tertiary character show up and Disapprove of Faybles is probably not going to happen, because it would be boring. The tertiary would show up, misquote scripture or whatever, and the rest of the cast would reject bigotry and support Faye X Bubbles.
Yeah, contrarian (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2987) characters probably aren't going to be a thing.
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I've been thinking that having PTX or Aunt Bettie or some other tertiary character show up and Disapprove of Faybles is probably not going to happen, because it would be boring. The tertiary would show up, misquote scripture or whatever, and the rest of the cast would reject bigotry and support Faye X Bubbles.
Those two crazy kids have enough going on to tell lots of stories, without any Very Special Episode shenanigans. And they're mature enough to know it, because they're talking it through in these past few panels.
And the blocking and anatomy are telling as much story as the dialogue. kudos
I don't see how any of that would matter. Faye could care less what Aunt Bettie (who could've passed away by now) or anyone else outside her immediate family thinks. And even if her immediate family objected they aren't all that involved with her life so it's no big loss. Similarly I doubt PTX's opinion matters to Bubbles, but if he were to cause trouble I would love for Bubbles to lean in and ask him if he knows what happened to Corpse Witch.
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I've been thinking that having PTX or Aunt Bettie or some other tertiary character show up and Disapprove of Faybles is probably not going to happen, because it would be boring. The tertiary would show up, misquote scripture or whatever, and the rest of the cast would reject bigotry and support Faye X Bubbles.
Yeah, contrarian (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2987) characters probably aren't going to be a thing.
It depends on how much of a mob they're able to whip up. We know that there are people in Northampton who really don't like Bubbles at all for no other reason than her being an AI.
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I'm in the US, so I'm used to inches and pounds, but a lot of my gear is measured or rated in metric.
That's interesting, why is that? I'm also an avid hiker and a caver, also.
EDIT: well, I don't do much caving lately.
I never gave it much thought. My best guess is that A: several of the companies (such as Petzl or CAMP) that produce the gear are in Europe, and B: even the US companies realize that it is to their advantage to use the global standard, since many of their customers either live outside the US, or at the very least, travel outside the US to climb.
Oh, I run and most of my races are in kilometers. If it's high-end gear, it's probably set to metric for people who use it for competitive purposes. Most of the world uses the metric system. If you are serious enough to be pursuing an activity that involves traveling out of the US, you will need the metric system. Some people think it's actually a much easier and more accurate way to measure things as well.
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And what does "NRE"mean?
Since it looks like nobody got around to it, NRE is New Relationship Energy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_relationship_energy
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I'm sorry but I really can't see PTX actually trying to hurt someone. He's just a jerk, and a conspiracy theory nutjob, as someone said. Doesn't mean he'd do something like that.
It's also possible that the human he lives with isn't very nice to him at all, which affects his perception of humans. Like giving him a neckbeard. Marten would never do that to Pintsize.
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I just want to add my 2 cents and say that I find it very hopeful that Faye is at least addressing things pretty immediately as opposed to keeping them in and having panic attacks or freaking out about shit. It's another action that further cements that she has grown as a person.
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It's also possible that the human he lives with isn't very nice to him at all, which affects his perception of humans. Like giving him a neckbeard.
“It’s not a beard, it’s a heatsink!”
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The last few strips have been glorious. Almost too good to be true. The culmination of 15 years of illustration testing and honing to give us these amazingly expressive panels. You almost don't even need the dialogue. The facial expressions say everything.
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As someone with boobs, I think Jeph took a little artistic license when he drew Bubbles with her arms down covering her boobs. Sorry if this is tmi, but, uh, yeah, I actually tried it. Does not work. Does not cover boobs.
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Bubbles’ anatomy is similar to a human woman’s but not completely so it’s a license he wrote.
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Okay, so I'm sure everyone wants an update, and really cares! I tried again and it sort of worked, but, eh. Yes, I know, Bubbles is an AI, but STILL, it can't be that different. My feeling is maybe if my chest was smaller. Wow. Sorry everyone, it must be tmi night.
I think Jeph wanted to cover them both but show some of Faye, forcing Bubbles to use her arms to cover up. If he had covered up Bubbles similarly to Faye it would have come up to Faye's neck. :laugh: :-P
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Speaking of...anatomy discussion, how much is Bubbles bending down in my avatar to kiss Faye? She's like at least a foot taller than Faye. lol.
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Speaking of...anatomy discussion, how much is Bubbles bending down in my avatar to kiss Faye? She's like at least a foot taller than Faye. lol.
I prefer to think Faye spontaneously grew wings on her feet and was rising to meet Bubbles.
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She’s bending her knees to take a few inches off her height. I’ve done that when kissing a short woman.
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I figured it was Bubbles bending down, and Faye more or less standing on her tippytoes. I'm 5' 8" and I used to date a gal who was 4' 11". Bending down and tippytoes was pretty much always the thing to do. lol
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In all seriousness I have an ex with the same height difference to me so I had to regularly stoop to kiss her. In the moment it seems perfectly normal.
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We know for certain that Bubbles's arms can move in ways out of the question for organics.
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It's also possible that the human he lives with isn't very nice to him at all, which affects his perception of humans. Like giving him a neckbeard.
“It’s not a beard, it’s a heatsink!”
Except that, to be an effective dissipator of heat, it should be on top, not on the bottom. More flattop than neckbeard.
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As someone with boobs, I think Jeph took a little artistic license when he drew Bubbles with her arms down covering her boobs. Sorry if this is tmi, but, uh, yeah, I actually tried it. Does not work. Does not cover boobs.
Well, you can see parts of the boobs, you just can't see any nipples -- but does Bubbles HAVE any nipples? I would not be surprised if the manufacturer didn't bother with those.
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Okay, so I'm sure everyone wants an update, and really cares! I tried again and it sort of worked, but, eh. Yes, I know, Bubbles is an AI, but STILL, it can't be that different. My feeling is maybe if my chest was smaller. Wow. Sorry everyone, it must be tmi night.
I think Jeph wanted to cover them both but show some of Faye, forcing Bubbles to use her arms to cover up. If he had covered up Bubbles similarly to Faye it would have come up to Faye's neck. :laugh: :P
Bubbles doesn't really seem to have big boobs like Faye does, and her arms are slightly crossed maybe mid-forearm. So it seems reasonable to me, even if she were only as flexible as a normal human.
Well, you can see parts of the boobs, you just can't see any nipples -- but does Bubbles HAVE any nipples? I would not be surprised if the manufacturer didn't bother with those.
Maybe not (http://skin-horse.com/comic/there-are-a).
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Yeah, Bubbles is definitely, uh, not as "gifted" as Faye...or me! Haha! But not flat chested either.
She must have nipples, otherwise, why is she protecting her modesty with her arms? Huh? Huh? :laugh:
I can see that she's bending down when she kisses Faye for the first time, but she's bending down more than you realize, obviously. Yep, the second kiss was definitely easier. :wink:
On the topic of PTX, it doesn't seem like he has a good relationship with the human he calls his "owner." Not friend, not companion, but owner. His use of that word means he doesn't feel any sort of connection, and probably feels trapped. The fact that this person put a heat sink on him that he didn't want says a lot about them. They're treating him like an object rather than a sentient being. Plus, it looks like a neckbeard.
It would be interesting to see who this person is and how they treat PTX. Jeph hasn't really given us any details about that, or explored PTX's issues in depth.
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Er, mods, please don't kill me, I realize we are not to discuss private parts here. I am more or less kidding around.
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fayelovesbubbles: Every time you make a hugely excited, thoughtful comment, then panic about it and make a follow up to the mods about it, I desperately want to hug you through the internet. You're a wonderful person to experience in these forums.
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Thanks! :-D
Okay, I will speak freely. I just don't want to run afoul of the rules.
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It doesn't always show, but I am also emotionally invested in the Brun/Clinton storyline. I want them to get together so bad. That's been a huge tease, too. Not quite as badly as I wanted Faybles to happen, but yeah, it's frustrating. Wish they'd just get together already. Brun is the unknown quantity there, and her strange behavior makes it hard to see what she's feeling. She hasn't expressed attraction to anyone as far as I can see.
The "huh. you smell good" thing got me really excited that something would happen...only to be terribly let down! Clinton blushing when she did that was the absolute best.
Elliot...well...I think he's going to go on a journey of self discovery and learn how to choose the right people. And not blurt out awkward confessions of love to coworkers. Or take off his shirt for them. I do want him to be happy, but he has a lot of work to do on himself first. I cringe at typing this, because this is pretty much word for word what people have told me about myself. ugh!
Seeing how Clinton's mom acts when Brun visits...well, now we know where Claire gets it from!
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Er, mods, please don't kill me, I realize we are not to discuss private parts here. I am more or less kidding around.
Discussion of your own private parts is fine within reason. And discussion of your own private parts in the TMI thread in relate is encouraged even without any reason. Feel free to reel on through it and see how graphic I've got before. If you cross a line in a WCDT we'll tell you.
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Er, mods, please don't kill me, I realize we are not to discuss private parts here. I am more or less kidding around.
Please don't worry. If you have an oops someday you'll get something much more constructive.
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Ah. I thought perhaps speculating about whether Bubbles has nipples might be toeing the line.
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I'd argue it's pretty near to the line, but it's generally more about the tone and intent than anything else.
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Yup, just tapdancing near that line. I’d rather not go past it.
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Yeah... I was a little perplexed by the art on this page, too. I was just thinking Bubbles had much smaller breasts than a lot of the cast (size As or Bs) which is why they looked flattened as they did, but it does seem like they should have more cleavage if her arms are pressed over them. Most of the time we see them they are pretty well covered and don't seem too large (even though the rest of her is gloriously curvy). Who knows? Maybe she is mostly flat-chested, but wears a fantastically padded bra under her clothes. She seems to be doing more and more to express her femininity since she dropped the armor...maybe even before that when she lost the helmet 'do.
...Robot boob anatomy... Never thought that would be serious discussion. :lol:
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Bubbles was already bending down and Faye was already on her toes when they exchanged their beautiful I would nevers. So they were fixing to kiss.
Yeah, this avatar is staying. Nothing tops that first beautiful moment.
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> Nothing tops that first beautiful moment
I felt a heavy impact on my emotions from "Faye, will you help me take off my armor?"
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> Nothing tops that first beautiful moment
I felt a heavy impact on my emotions from "Faye, will you help me take off my armor?"
For me it was Faye truly caring for Bubs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3195) unlike Bubbles had ever experienced that we know of.
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> Nothing tops that first beautiful moment
I felt a heavy impact on my emotions from "Faye, will you help me take off my armor?"
For me it was Faye truly caring for Bubs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3195) unlike Bubbles had ever experienced that we know of.
Bubbles is almost a symbolic representation of Faye. Faye has had her own armor and destructive tendencies. They just aren't as visible. They both try their damnedest to push people away. The two of them are both survivors who are working on healing. Of course, their personalities are very different beyond that. I wonder if Jeph had always envisioned them coming together as a couple or if it was a matter of the characters taking the story into its own direction?
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With that thought in mind, I am still waiting for someone to pinpoint when Bubbles started having romantic feelings for Faye. I know I created this account in early 2017, so by then it had already happened, but at what point it happened I still can't decipher. Faye's feelings took QUITE awhile to catch up with Bubbles' feelings, I think.
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What comes to mind is the "affection" remark. She also let slip to Clinton that she considered Faye "hot", but that's not at all the same as getting romantic.
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Seems like most of Faye’s friends have had a crush on her at one point or another.
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The Foreshadowing over 3 1/2 years ago is insane...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262
Jeph, you crazy S.O.B.
What I like about that particular strip, is how both Angus and Pintsize are quite accurately predicting future events...
The moral is: Listen to the comedians! :-D
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The Foreshadowing over 3 1/2 years ago is insane...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262)
Jeph, you crazy S.O.B.
What I like about that particular strip, is how both Angus and Pintsize are quite accurately predicting future events...
The moral is: Listen to the comedians! ;D
Sure, that strip might have been Jeph foreshadowing. Then again, maybe he hadn’t even thought about it, and writing their comments put the idea in his head. I don’t know if he’s ever said so, one way or the other.
As for Angus and Pintsize “predicting”, well, there’s a big difference between predicting and fantasizing. I can think of a lot of straight girls I’ve fantasized about being with each other, but if any of them actually did it someday, no one could honestly say I predicted anything.
I’d say the first person who truly predicted Faye and Bubbles hooking up was May (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3075).
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With that thought in mind, I am still waiting for someone to pinpoint when Bubbles started having romantic feelings for Faye. I know I created this account in early 2017, so by then it had already happened, but at what point it happened I still can't decipher. Faye's feelings took QUITE awhile to catch up with Bubbles' feelings, I think.
Faye was the one who initiated the friendship, even pushing Bubbles to the point of losing her temper.
I think Faye was actually the one who started catching the warmies (or whatever you want to call "attraction" or "romantic feelings") first; she was just remarkably oblivious to her own feelings, and being attracted to an AI lady wasn't even something she consciously figured out until just now.
First hug: Faye initiates, Bubbles allows Faye into her heart. Coolant pump. Whatever.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3195
At some point, around here: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3330
we see Faye initiating all sorts of physical contact with Bubbles.
More: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3339
We also see a glimmer of Bubbles perhaps admiring Faye's rump...?
Dang, get a room already, ladies: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3340
Geez, it's totally obvious to their friends -- note they say Faye likes Bubbles, not the other way around:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3341
They started leaning on one another emotionally (and physically) much more after Faye punched Corpse Witch and the whole business with Bubbles' memories. Plus they were living together at that point; spending pretty much every moment together, yet still getting along wonderfully:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3375
So I think the attraction just sort of grew simultaneously, and probably even started with Faye first, or at least Faye was definitely the one to break the touch barrier; Faye was just much better at being oblivious to her own feelings.
Bubbles isn't the sort of person to lie to herself, so she was well aware of how she felt and just... suppressed it as best she could. She resigned herself to the arrangement as best she could.
Even if Bubbles didn't have everything she wanted, she could claim to be happy, or at least content, which is better than she'd ever had before.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3603
Faye oblivious again, and again, and again...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3605
Amanda and Evie see the attraction and connection immediately, same as May, Momo, and, well, everyone:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3660
Faye, still oblivious (and yes, this is realistic; people really are this clueless sometimes):
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3669
Bubbles is... "content". Sort of.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3670
Bonus: the answer to the robot nipples question. At least one robot, anyway:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3670
Poor May. Stuck in a cheap nippleless chassis.
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Faye winking as she puts her arms around Bubbles is the cutest. Thing. Ever. And Bubbles blushing in return? Adorbs.
I think Bubbles must like Faye's butt a lot, given that butt grab! Yeah, Faye was definitely oblivious. Even right before they kissed she was like "Who knows what Bubs would think" omg Faye. FAYE. Come on now.
Whew. I'm just glad they kissed, and ...did other things. :wink:
There's no doubting it now. The only doubtful thing is how things will proceed from here on. I really want things to go well...
To be honest, I can understand how Faye feels. It sounds crazy, but even though I wanted this to happen for so long, I was a little scared too. I was like wait, whoa, this is real. This is really real.
It's also cute how Faye and Marten imitate Bubbles' voice. :-P
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Even if Bubbles didn't have everything she wanted, she could claim to be happy, or at least content, which is better than she'd ever had before.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3603
On a side note Pintsize's head must be tin or aluminum for as often as we see it bent.
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Even if Bubbles didn't have everything she wanted, she could claim to be happy, or at least content, which is better than she'd ever had before.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3603
On a side note Pintsize's head must be tin or aluminum for as often as we see it bent.
Yeah, not sure what Pintsize's, Punchbot's, and Barry's heads are made of, but it doesn't seem to suffer from fatigue cracking.
A couple of people, I think Emily and Sam, remarked that Pintsize's head looked soft or looked like plastic, and/or they somehow sensed imminent inappropriate behavior, so they instinctively punched him when they met.
Of course we're overthinking it; we're most likely seeing the Rule of Funny in action: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny
Or arrrrrre we? Faye once mentions using a heat gun to deal with the dent in Pintsize's head when they're headed over to the apartment. Pintsize's chassis is military grade stuff, so maybe his head is made of a memory alloy that regains its shape when heated.
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Marigold on Twitter said something about how dents in mil-spec chassis just pop out.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with talk about nipples.
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I’ve never been this emotionally invested in a relationship in QC before. I know my curiosity about what they did in bed is part of that. But some things are meant to be private. I need to stop wondering.
And at the risk of running afoul of the rules, I don’t wonder in an AI sense. I wonder in a I wonder how they touched and kissed each other sense. As I would if two humans had a relationship, one that grew so slowly and beautifully over time. I imagine what someone else did—that they just touched each other and said “so this is you.”
Although I am terribly curious about what happened after Bubbles said “we need to have a discussion. Later!”
Maybe I’m just curious even more because I’ve never seen two characters in QC kiss so passionately, so hungrily, and with such desire for one another! The kisses alone are enough to fog up my glasses.
I think we can all admit that.
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I don't admit that whatsoever. I have no curiosity whatsoever about how these characters bone. Or how anybody does that I'm not sleeping with personally, planning on it or that is initiating the discussion themselves.
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And at the risk of running afoul of the rules...
Given that IICIH has just informed us that people are becoming uncomfortable with that line of inquiry and IICIH and pwhodges have locked down two other threads for this kind of speculation, I think it would probably be best to keep that curiosity to yourself. As natural as your curiosity is, it is just as natural that other people will be uncomfortable with it. So if you're concerned with stepping over a boundary, I'd suggest playing it safe and giving the rules a wider berth.
And if you're really really keen to talk about it, pick a willing buddy and message them. I can't promise you I would offer the most stimulating conversation or that I won't have my own boundaries separate from the forum, but I'm up for a chat from time to time.
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I know I personally have no boundaries and will discuss anything with anybody but I try to keep it within others comfort zones.
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The comic itself makes me somewhat uncomfortable. I may be interested in increasing my knowledge but I learned long ago not to inject my personal sentiments into things that do not require them. I don't begrudge anyone who does feel invested in such things of course (heck, my friends like to play a shipping card game when they come over) but they have nothing to do with me so I observe (or look away) from a distance.
That said, these are fictional characters, so I'm willing to state that I find ClintonxElliot compelling for undefinable reasons, if that's the direction Jeph decides to go.
And since I'm posting: Thank you to those who defined the terms for me =)
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I meant we can agree that this portrayal is very different than others in terms of relationships in the comic, not that we can agree about my curiosity. I admit it’s mine alone, and it seems to cross the line, so I won’t mention it again.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with talk about nipples.
I'm getting feedback that going into that level of detail is disturbing people so much that it compromises their sense of being welcome here.
Fair enough. My apologies for being the one who initiated that discussion.
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Nipples are important reference points. And belly buttons. Ask any art student.
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The only problem is that they can be titillating. [rimshot.mp3]
I'll just show myself out, thanks!
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The best I can award you for that pun is a booby prize.
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That's the breast you can do for him?
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The only way he'll learn is in the school of hard knockers.
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That's udderly asinine, though.
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That's udderly asinine, though.
You're going to milk it for all it's worth, aren't you?
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You got a problem with that? Come at me, bra.
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Wow... y’feel that? It’s getting a tit bit nipply in here.
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Wow. I really didn't expect all that.
Turns out I'm a lot more sorry than I though I would be!
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Wow. I really didn't expect all that.
Turns out I'm a lot more sorry than I though I would be!
One should never feel sorry for inspiring horrible puns.
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You didn't think we'd seize every opportunity to turn a thread into a pun thread?
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I have been away for a while....
One blissfully forgets.