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Title: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Jun 2018, 18:35
I don't have a witty poll for this week, so if one of the mods wants to have at it, go for it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jun 2018, 19:04
I didn't vote for them but Jim and Veronica seem like likely candidates.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Jun 2018, 20:31
Barry and the moose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: hakko504 on 10 Jun 2018, 00:44
I voted Jim and Veronica, but Wil & Penelope is probably very close after. And then Steve and Cosette. Which wasn't an alternative BTW. They might even be more likely to get married actually, though not necessarily first.

[edit] S&C have since been added to the poll. And fixed spelling. [/edit]
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Jun 2018, 01:03
You need to add 'Steve and Cossette'. I'm also expecting them to be the first named characters in the strip to become new parents.

Lacking that option, Jim and Veronica are the next most likely to wed, IMO.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 04:40
Parents? It's important to remember that while this comic has been running for 15 years, comic time and real time are very different.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2018, 06:02
I added Steve and Cosette. Let me know if anything goes wrong with the poll. I have a vague memory that the forum software does something to punish you for editing a poll but I don't remember what.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Jun 2018, 06:52
The penalty is usually having to reset all votes, IIRC.

Even though I voted for Jim and Veronica, I suspect that they're not going to go through the marriage thing. It doesn't really make sense for either one, and they're both at that age when it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 10 Jun 2018, 14:04
Barry and the moose.
You kid, but it would seem that that's technically legal in Denmark.
The Danes are super chill people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 16:59
Wait, who was the first couple to get married?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: cesium133 on 10 Jun 2018, 17:28
Marten's dad and Maurice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: OldGoat on 10 Jun 2018, 17:32
Wait, who was the first couple to get married?
Henry (Marten's Dad) Reed and Maurice.

Steve and Cosette have been married for some time but didn't want to make any kind of production out of it.  (IRL that would not be out of character at all for a former government spook.  I don't think we've been told what Steve does for a living, so he may still be in The Game, just not playing as a field agent anymore.)

They may not have even told Jeph.  That or he and Tortura were the witnesses and have been sworn to secrecy.  Jeph, not being a fool, doesn't want Tortura to slit his throat, feed him to pigs. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: shanejayell on 10 Jun 2018, 17:52
No Faye & Bubbles option?

http://orig15.deviantart.net/5d65/f/2017/017/f/c/untitled_by_liquidmark-davs1uc.png
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2018, 18:20
I've been taking utterly for granted that they will be the first and that the poll would have to be about the second.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 18:58
OH!! I didn't consider Marten's dad and stepdad to be part of the "regular" cast. I miss them, I wish they'd come back. It seems appropriate given the momentous getting together of Bubbles and Faye.

I bet Marten misses them, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 10 Jun 2018, 19:02
Comic's up.

Haven't we seen the shirt Bubbles is wearing, or one very like it, on Faye before?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2018, 19:04
Quote from: Bubbles
irrevocably

She considers this permanent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 19:08
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 19:10
Bubbles, now that you and Faye are together, you need to work on not making Marten pee his pants every time you touch him. How about a nice, normal invention known as "the hug"?

Oh and psst--more evidence that AIs don't consider "robot" offensive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Jun 2018, 19:11
Comic's up.

Haven't we seen the shirt Bubbles is wearing, or one very like it, on Faye before?

My, aren't we observant. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=834)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 10 Jun 2018, 19:12
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Inconsequential on 10 Jun 2018, 19:14
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

Yep, first thing I noticed was Faye's bearmonster shirt.

Faye's gonna look absolutely adorable swimming around in sweatshirts stolen from Bubbles... because in any relationship, the smaller partner inevitably steals half the larger partner's sweatshirts. And they look so adorable you can't steal them back...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 19:21
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.

Faye is more than willing to sacrifice her favorite shirt for Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jun 2018, 19:23
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.

It will become a nightshirt.  Looseness is an advantage.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Jun 2018, 20:05
Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It’s Bubbles’s shirt now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Shjade on 10 Jun 2018, 20:08
Oh and psst--more evidence that AIs don't consider "robot" offensive.

Context may matter: it's possibly Bubbles would take this less well from a stranger than her girlfriend.

Is it just me or does Marten seem sorta Winslow-esque in that first panel? I realize both he and Faye look more petite simply by contrast with Bubbles there, but something about his general stature and posture just looks more...boyish there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 10 Jun 2018, 20:13
I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Jun 2018, 20:15
Seeing Bubs in Faye’s shirt makes me wonder what Faye would look like wearing Bubbles’s armor.

(She’s already wearing Bubbles’s amoré :claireface:)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 10 Jun 2018, 20:26
I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.

I dunno bitch is a slur but friends call each other that sometimes. Context does matter though I'm incline to think that robot is not a slur in the QC verse.

As far as the poll goes, I'm pretty sure Jim and Veronica though if a long standing couple were to wed Steve and Cossette make sense and Penelope and Wil do too. Just seems like a big move for the "young" cast.

A pregnancy would be interesting and Cossette is main character enough for us to care and background enough for it to not break the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jun 2018, 20:37
...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 10 Jun 2018, 20:44
...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?

maybe the baby will be good luck
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 10 Jun 2018, 21:05
For the last week or so I've been thinking how fantastic it would be if Bubbles walked out of that room wearing Faye's shirt stretched almost to the breaking point. I never thought I'd actually see it. Here's what it felt like when I saw this strip.

I'm a kid again and I've seen the Micronauts Battle Cruiser in the Sears catalog and store sales flyers and whatever and I've been wanting the Micronauts Battle Cruiser for Christmas but never thought I'd actually get it, and now it's Christmas morning and OH MY GOD I GOT THE MICRONAUTS BATTLE CRUISER!!!!!!!!!!

That's what it feels like. I can't... I just can't...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Woodwork on 10 Jun 2018, 21:09
I found panel 2 interesting and well-constructed. Initially, I was amused by Bubble's "I am the robot girlfriend.", as if that needed any clarification, but then I realized she wouldn't have said that if Faye hadn't brought it up so indirectly ("I have a robot girlfriend", when she could have said "We're in a relationship"). Considering this further, it makes me think that Faye is probably still overwhelmed by this experience: to be in an unconventional relationship, especially when this is Faye's first close romantic relationship is probably in the front of her mind (Sven wasn't really a close relation, and I may misremember, but I got the general impression that she didn't have any romantic relationships before she met Marten because she was still processing her father's suicide). Especially with how long it has taken for her to recognize and identify her feelings towards Bubbles.

Then again, this may have just been the most natural way of communicating their relationship status to Marten, but it still got me thinking... maybe overthinking?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Inconsequential on 10 Jun 2018, 21:09
...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?


My mind went back to Marigold's horrifying dream...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2874

As far as getting married I could see Marigold and Dale as one of those couples that never really bothers with it, even though they're completely committed to one another. Both are sort of... high inertia people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 10 Jun 2018, 22:35
I'm a kid again and I've seen the Micronauts Battle Cruiser in the Sears catalog and store sales flyers and whatever and I've been wanting the Micronauts Battle Cruiser for Christmas but never thought I'd actually get it, and now it's Christmas morning and OH MY GOD I GOT THE MICRONAUTS BATTLE CRUISER!!!!!!!!!!



While the Battle Cruiser was indeed cool, I much preferred the mighty Hornetroid.  Not only was it a bug robot aircraft, the box art was done by Ken Kelly, who did album covers for Kiss and Manowar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2018, 22:53
Welcome, new person!

Overthinking is one of our favorite activities.

Faye and Angus did break out the L-word.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: brasca on 10 Jun 2018, 23:09
I voted Wil and Penelope since it seems like a tidy way to write them out.

Bubbles is definitely wearing Faye’s shirt, but I don’t know how it could fit unless she mistakenly ordered a 3X by mistake and never returned it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Jun 2018, 23:29
At some point, Bubbles is going to have to go into her 'settings' screen and move the 'Moral Intensity' slider down a little from it's current place at '11'. I mean, it's lovely the way she gets so passionate about things but, as we see here, it is possible to be too passionate and risk damaging your household Marten Reed.

It's nice the way Marten lets Faye and Bubbles take the lead though. He's got good reason to believe that the two have at least decided to be friends with benefits; maybe even a full relationship. However, he lets them decided how much they want to say to him. Compare that to, say, Dora, who'd likely offer a whole paragraph of innuendos and squeaky demands for 'details'. I'm not criticising Dora, I'm just saying that Marten seems to empathise better than her when it comes to dealing with friends in new and/or uncomfortable situations.

I have to say that, given the difference in size between Faye and Bubbles, brasca must be right about Faye having accidentally ordered an XXXL once and having never returned it. Her normal Angry Bear would be practically skin-tight on Bubbles!

...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?

That would be an actual part of the running joke. You'd never see her holding the baby; it would be either Steve or one of the other ladies. It will never be explicitly stated that she's only allowed to hold the baby when seated and surrounded by soft pillows but we'll be allowed to think that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: gopher on 11 Jun 2018, 01:58
Probably time for one of the couple to find a new place. 4 Adults is too much for a two-bedroomed flat/apartment, imo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: oddtail on 11 Jun 2018, 03:19
Not much to say about the comic otherwise, but... okay, comparing Marten's (positive) impact to the conference of Yalta kinda rubs me the wrong way, with me being Polish and all.

For those who don't know, the prevailing Polish sentiment about what happened in Yalta is basically "Poland got screwed over by the West and basically shoved into USSR's loving arms". It has the connotations of our nation's history being decided FOR us, with world superpowers dividing Europe as they saw fit, despite the fact that we were the first country to fight Nazi Germany and such.

I'm aware the political reality of the time was much more complex, but comparing something that led to Faye and Bubbles being a couple with what led to Poland being stuck as a Soviet satellite country for the next 40+ years...

...to me, the implications are troubling at best.

The comic's fine otherwise, but this part is just, UGH.

EDIT: not to mention the redrawing of Polish eastern border. Which is a much more complicated issue (what with the people living in pre-partition Eastern Poland being nations other than Poles, which Poland for the most part always failed to acknowledge), but with the end result being that those nations got swallowed whole into USSR... yeah, Yalta sucked for pretty much ALL of Eastern Europe.

EDIT 2: this article sums up the issue pretty well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Jun 2018, 03:51
Well, you can't deny that the conference had an effect, which is probably all she was going for...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: oddtail on 11 Jun 2018, 03:54
Well, you can't deny that the conference had an effect, which is probably all she was going for...

I know, I'm not saying Bubbles is praising Yalta like this wonderful matchmaking ;)

I do think the comparison is... unfortunate on Jeph's part. I'm sure nothing was meant to be implied by it, but I can't help but read (unintentional) subtext into it.

I consider the use of Yalta as an example of "big event", within this context, to be a little tone-deaf.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Jun 2018, 04:11
Fair enough; I can see it brings up unhappy thoughts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jun 2018, 04:20
At the risk of thread derailment: I entirely understand and empathise with the feelings of the people of Central Europe who feel like their nations were thrown under the bus at Yalta. However, giving Stalin the 'security buffer zone' he demanded was probably the only thing that stopped World War 2 in Europe smoothly seguing into World War 3. This would probably have involved the US throwing every atom bomb it had, as soon as they were built, at Russia without any consideration for the secondary effects of a prolonged bombardment with first-generation 'dirty' fission devices would have on the Eurasian environment.

There is no doubt that Yalta, like Munich before it in 1938, was a bad deal for those people sacrificed like a pawn in a game of chess. However, I would say that there is an argument that it was the least worst option available to avert the prospect of the war in Europe (now between the UK, France and the USA and the Soviet Union) from lasting another 10 years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: oddtail on 11 Jun 2018, 04:36
At the risk of thread derailment: I entirely understand and empathise with the feelings of the people of Central Europe who feel like their nations were thrown under the bus at Yalta. However, giving Stalin the 'security buffer zone' he demanded was probably the only thing that stopped World War 2 in Europe smoothly seguing into World War 3. This would probably have involved the US throwing every atom bomb it had, as soon as they were built, at Russia without any consideration for the secondary effects of a prolonged bombardment with first-generation 'dirty' fission devices would have on the Eurasian environment.

There is no doubt that Yalta, like Munich before it in 1938, was a bad deal for those people sacrificed like a pawn in a game of chess. However, I would say that there is an argument that it was the least worst option available to avert the prospect of the war in Europe (now between the UK, France and the USA and the Soviet Union) from lasting another 10 years.

I think Yalta was in some ways a political inevitability. But for one thing, the inevitability is a cold comfort for all those who were thrown under the bus. And for another... the naive approach of Churchill and Roosevelt thinking they could trust a genocidal dictator who came to power by offing anyone who opposed him in his own political in-group... yeah, I know hindsight is 20/20, but I absolutely believe Yalta could have been handled better even from the purely pragmatic standpoint.

And again, what I mind is using Yalta in a comparison to something that changed people's life for the better, where everyone had agency and free choice. My doubts about Churchill's political wisdom (and moral character) are honestly secondary, here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jun 2018, 04:50
I was looking at panel 2 again and thinking about how Faye was stating everything in questions and not looking at Marten as if she was afraid of Marten's disapproval in some way. The implication is: "Are these the right things for me to say?" Then you get Marten's approval and, in panel 3, she's smiling in relief. It's quite beautiful in a way.

I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 11 Jun 2018, 04:51
I voted Wil and Penelope since it seems like a tidy way to write them out.

Bubbles is definitely wearing Faye’s shirt, but I don’t know how it could fit unless she mistakenly ordered a 3X by mistake and never returned it.

Unstable molecules.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 11 Jun 2018, 05:04
I was looking at panel 2 again and thinking about how Faye was stating everything in questions and not looking at Marten as if she was afraid of Marten's disapproval in some way. The implication is: "Are these the right things for me to say?" Then you get Marten's approval and, in panel 3, she's smiling in relief. It's quite beautiful in a way.

I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).

I read her as giving her statement a little sarcastically interrogative uplift, as if to say "Uh, obviously?" Of course this reading brings me to a similar place to yours. She's anxious and defensive, and she wants his approval.

I agree with what you said about her being messed up. I suspect that her primary challenge in the relationship will be overcoming her fears: that people will leave her, and that she is somehow responsible for them leaving. After Angus, that last one must loom large. She's going to have to reckon with it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 11 Jun 2018, 05:08
While the Battle Cruiser was indeed cool, I much preferred the mighty Hornetroid.  Not only was it a bug robot aircraft, the box art was done by Ken Kelly, who did album covers for Kiss and Manowar.

Oh wow, Hornetroid! I vividly remember the feeing of playing with that one. As a concept, it was amazing. As far as playing with it, though, I felt a big letdown, since all you could do with it was flap the wings and squirt water.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zelia on 11 Jun 2018, 06:05
Bubbles is looking very cute in Faye's shirt. I suppose it's her shirt now, because that stretch isn't coming out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Jun 2018, 06:15
Faye could always get a new one. Topataco (https://topatoco.com/collections/jeph-jacques/products/qc-bearmonster) still sells them.

:D
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 11 Jun 2018, 06:29
Faye could always get a new one. Topataco (https://topatoco.com/collections/jeph-jacques/products/qc-bearmonster) still sells them.

:D

Indeed. I picked mine up just two weeks ago, when Faybles was touching me so deeply that I felt the urge to grab some merch and throw a few bucks Jeph's way. Here's a shot from last week of me in the shirt at Grand Central.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BlueFatima on 11 Jun 2018, 07:54

I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).

A very important part of becoming an adult is stop giving a fart about approval from others—even friends. I have come to the realization recently that many people have difficulty outgrowing this, though, and that can hold one back—especially if they have stupid or malicious friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Jun 2018, 08:01
Bubbles, now that you and Faye are together, you need to work on not making Marten pee his pants every time you touch him. How about a nice, normal invention known as "the hug"?

Oh and psst--more evidence that AIs don't consider "robot" offensive.

Actually more evidence that Bubbles doesn't. Me being okay with the word 'queer' over and over again isn't more evidence of other queers being okay with it.

I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

Nope. In my limited friendship group words like this are thrown around freely to and by people by minority groups as an indication of it as being a safe space for all of us where that prejudice is not a real worry.

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I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.

Nope. But then I don't have any investment in the discussion so you're unlikely to get me to a decision either way.

Not much to say about the comic otherwise, but... okay, comparing Marten's (positive) impact to the conference of Yalta kinda rubs me the wrong way, with me being Polish and all.

For those who don't know, the prevailing Polish sentiment about what happened in Yalta is basically "Poland got screwed over by the West and basically shoved into USSR's loving arms". It has the connotations of our nation's history being decided FOR us, with world superpowers dividing Europe as they saw fit, despite the fact that we were the first country to fight Nazi Germany and such.

I'm aware the political reality of the time was much more complex, but comparing something that led to Faye and Bubbles being a couple with what led to Poland being stuck as a Soviet satellite country for the next 40+ years...

...to me, the implications are troubling at best.

The comic's fine otherwise, but this part is just, UGH.

EDIT: not to mention the redrawing of Polish eastern border. Which is a much more complicated issue (what with the people living in pre-partition Eastern Poland being nations other than Poles, which Poland for the most part always failed to acknowledge), but with the end result being that those nations got swallowed whole into USSR... yeah, Yalta sucked for pretty much ALL of Eastern Europe.

EDIT 2: this article sums up the issue pretty well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal

This is an unfortunate aspet of such historical events. They may smart for some, and not for others. They say tragedy plus time equals comedy, but obviously this won't be true for everybody.


I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).

A very important part of becoming an adult is stop giving a fart about approval from others—even friends. I have come to the realization recently that many people have difficulty outgrowing this, though, and that can hold one back—especially if they have stupid or malicious friends.

I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BlueFatima on 11 Jun 2018, 08:28

I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.

Perhaps I should have clarified. I mean not giving a fart about what people think when you do things for yourself that bring you happiness (even if it makes you seem "unusual") and brings no harm to others. I have had to recently prune an entire friend group who didn't get it. They brought misery to themselves and their families, and they were total energy vampires to hang out with. Lots of obsessing about looking "perfect" in front of each other and judging others—all because they were worried about being "accepted."

Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Jun 2018, 08:30
From what I’ve seen of Faye, she doesn’t care much about how most people think about her. But Marten is one person whose good opinion she absolutely must have. Fortunately Marten is probably the most uncritically supportive person in her entire life. He is open-minded about relationships and truly just wants to see Faye happy, so he has zero problems with Faye & Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: theMarc on 11 Jun 2018, 09:03
Hi. I know I don't post often, but I just wanted to pop in and make sure everyone was aware that panel #2 of today's comic is the greatest thing ever. Faye's uncertainty, Martin's enthusiastic support, and especially Bubbles's matter-of-fact stating that she is, in fact, the robot girlfriend being referred to, all of it is perfect.

That is all. As you were.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jun 2018, 09:52
I rate Marten's response as open acceptance rather than enthusiastic support.

That's a good thing and was good for Faye and Bubbles but I think the occasion called for leaping forward to hug them and saying "I'm so happy for you!".
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 11 Jun 2018, 10:33
I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.

Actually, adults don't fart. ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: dutchrvl on 11 Jun 2018, 10:47
I rate Marten's response as open acceptance rather than enthusiastic support.

That's a good thing and was good for Faye and Bubbles but I think the occasion called for leaping forward to hug them and saying "I'm so happy for you!".

I actually interpreted his response as quite enthusiastic too. Plus, in my personal environment I don't think I have ever experienced leaping forward and hugging after announcing the start of dating (usually those are reserved for announcements of engagement and/or pregnancy).

Plus Marten is not really the type to do that anyway. This is pretty much as enthusiastic as you're likely to get out of him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Roborat on 11 Jun 2018, 11:16
That poor shirt will never be the same.  I am surprised it could stretch enough to fit Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 11 Jun 2018, 11:22
Marten is not really the type to do that anyway. This is pretty much as enthusiastic as you're likely to get out of him.

Agreed. Tai or Claire might leap and hug, but not Marten. He might blow a party favor, but I think that's as far as he'd go.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Jun 2018, 11:58
I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.

Actually, adults don't fart. ever.

A might fine accusation from someone with 'bottoms' in their username!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: OldGoat on 11 Jun 2018, 12:28
From what I’ve seen of Faye, she doesn’t care much about how most people think about her. But Marten is one person whose good opinion she absolutely must have. Fortunately Marten is probably the most uncritically supportive person in her entire life. He is open-minded about relationships and truly just wants to see Faye happy, so he has zero problems with Faye & Bubbles.
^^^THIS^^^

A rising inflection at the end of a sentence is as tonal as the English language gets, and it indicates an interrogative (Sister Mary Grammar would be surprised that I remember that).  Typically IRL when it shows up at the end of a declarative sentence it indicates that the speaker is uncertain as to the response they'll receive.  You're spot on Zeb.  In contrast to her "Do I Look Like I Give A Fornicate?" attitude towards anyone else's opinion, Faye values Marty's almost beyond measure (although she may be loathe to admit it once her vision clears).
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 11 Jun 2018, 13:22
Also of note: either Faye has developed water-themed super-powers or Hannelore accidentally left one of hannerdad’s auto-refilling glasses downstairs; Faye’s cup goes from ¾ to ½ to completely full between panels.
It could also be a subtle artistic mirror of her emotional state too…
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Milayna on 11 Jun 2018, 14:37
I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.
It may be more like african-american vs black, or LGBT vs queer, or Chinese vs asian. One is gnerally more informal than the other and which is better may depend on the speaker, referrent and context.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Milayna on 11 Jun 2018, 14:47
I have to say that, given the difference in size between Faye and Bubbles, brasca must be right about Faye having accidentally ordered an XXXL once and having never returned it. Her normal Angry Bear would be practically skin-tight on Bubbles!

Skin-tight? I can't even wrangle into my shirts from 10 years ago anymore and I'm...only 50 pounds heavier. From 120. I mean...well I ain't a 7 foot tall valkyrie, anyway. Point is Faye --> Bubbles is a MUCH bigger change.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Milayna on 11 Jun 2018, 15:04
I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.

Actually, adults don't fart. ever.
Wait so does this mean baked beans are the secret of eternal youth
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Jun 2018, 15:18
They are reported to be good for your heart. :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 11 Jun 2018, 15:37
I'd call this an oversimplification. I think it's more like being an adult is knowing when to give a fart about what people think.

Actually, adults don't fart. ever.

A might fine accusation from someone with 'bottoms' in their username!

I'm an expert
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 11 Jun 2018, 16:28
Since some folks here and on the Patreon board enjoy putting a soundtrack to their Faybles headcanon, I thought it would be fun to make a Faybles playlist on Spotify. Tell me your songs, and what they mean to you, and I'll add them. There seems to be no way to add notes to a Spotify playlist, so I guess I could put our "liner notes" in a separate thread, or on my blog or whatever.

Here's the link to the playlist.
https://open.spotify.com/user/1242387969/playlist/65JeWEJnPqWTAQzN1UoOMi?si=QaCdyniI
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: keithcurtis on 11 Jun 2018, 17:59
I voted Wil and Penelope since it seems like a tidy way to write them out.

Bubbles is definitely wearing Faye’s shirt, but I don’t know how it could fit unless she mistakenly ordered a 3X by mistake and never returned it.

Unstable molecules.
No, that's Bubble's sweatshirt (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3180).
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SpanielBear on 11 Jun 2018, 18:19
Comic's up!

No Booty Dance? No Booty Dance!!!!!?????

*Breathes in long and deep*


HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Jun 2018, 18:26
I was really looking forward to that dance.

Although Bubbles might inadvertently bring down the building if she did a booty dance, so perhaps discretion is the best course.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 11 Jun 2018, 18:58
Yes booty dance!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 11 Jun 2018, 18:58
Every time you say booty dance, a Bubbles blushes. Please, think of the Bubbles!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 11 Jun 2018, 19:06
(https://i.imgur.com/QD3LaOu.png)

Faye, you know perfectly well that you and Bubbles did a bit more than just smoochin.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Jun 2018, 19:11
Tai will probably show up with confetti too. *lol*

The blushes are ADORABLE.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Jun 2018, 19:22
Bubbles won't do the booty dance?

She's jinxed it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pecoros7 on 11 Jun 2018, 19:29
To be fair, Bubbles might cause widespread property damage with that booty if she did dance. So perhaps this is for the best.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Jun 2018, 19:32
Nothing stopping Faye from performing the necessary booty dance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Jun 2018, 19:38
I just saw that Faye was wearing that shirt (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3472) when Bubbles asked her to help remove her armor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 11 Jun 2018, 19:39
To be fair, Bubbles might cause widespread property damage with that booty if she did dance. So perhaps this is for the best.

So then she can just whip her hair back and for--oh...right.

Never mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Jun 2018, 20:55
To be fair, Bubbles might cause widespread property damage with that booty if she did dance. So perhaps this is for the best.

But you should *see* what she can do with her hips...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Jun 2018, 21:05
If I'm not mistaken, the Nazarene lifted its ban on dancing with the stipulation that any dancing done be modest and non-sexual.

I know part of the reason dancing and alcohol were banned by the Wesleyan denominations was that balls (the party) were thrown as a way for the rich to flaunt their wealth and, in some respects, to thumb their noses at the poor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SmilingCat on 11 Jun 2018, 21:07
Bubbles won't do the booty dance?

She's jinxed it.

Did she? Every booty dance we've seen has been for a relationship that ultimately fell apart.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: badbum61 on 11 Jun 2018, 21:37
Aw, no booty dance? Boo-urns!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Jun 2018, 21:42
Bubbles won't do the booty dance?

She's jinxed it.

Did she? Every booty dance we've seen has been for a relationship that ultimately fell apart.  :-P

Not Marigold. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2651)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jun 2018, 21:59
I think it was pwhodges who pointed out that every relationship falls apart unless someone dies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: brasca on 11 Jun 2018, 22:37
Dancing is Forbidden
Although I think Faye probably bought Bubbles a 5X size version of her shirt as a gift she was going to give to her later, but decided now was a better time and presented it to her off panel it might get ripped if she gets carried away by the music.  For the best really.  She'd probably feel really bad about destroying a gift Faye got her and react badly. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Jun 2018, 23:43
Someone, maybe Faye or even Pintsize, should have given Bubbles a cheat sheet so that she knew the relationship protocols for the apartment. That said, from panel 3, I think that this was a nice surprise for her! I'm also thinking that Faye is suddenly realising just how embarrassing all these rituals can be (especially when she is usually the target of them).

Now, I think that we all can agree that Bubbles is going to be her usual stoic self. I'd love it if Faye came across her dancing in a hesitant and uncertain way. Officially that will be 'hip joint recalibration', but Faye will always wonder if that's her girlfriend's version of 'the booty dance'.

I'm guessing that, having got rid of the shrieking bit, Claire will satisfy herself with an excited running jump-hug.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Jun 2018, 23:57
While the Battle Cruiser was indeed cool, I much preferred the mighty Hornetroid.  Not only was it a bug robot aircraft, the box art was done by Ken Kelly, who did album covers for Kiss and Manowar.

Oh wow, Hornetroid! I vividly remember the feeing of playing with that one. As a concept, it was amazing. As far as playing with it, though, I felt a big letdown, since all you could do with it was flap the wings and squirt water.
I could feel the letdown just looking it up on an image search.

Granted, my childhood straddled the 80s and the 90s, so I got the Insectoids Lego sets.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 12 Jun 2018, 01:19
Awhhh...
Missed a trick there.
One more frame of Marten and Bubbles looking to their left to see an oblivious Faye performing said dance....
Faye: "What?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 12 Jun 2018, 06:08
I could feel the letdown just looking it up on an image search.

Granted, my childhood straddled the 80s and the 90s, so I got the Insectoids Lego sets.

Those look like fun. They weren't motorized, were they? For me, that was the most amazing thing about the Micronauts: the little tank treads on Biotron and Microtron and Nemesis... I get a sensory rush just thinking about them. Heady stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 12 Jun 2018, 06:29
I an't find it right now, but Faye's 'embarrassed' pose in panel two is exactly the same pose that Marigold used around the time that she and Dale became an item.  It a cute echo. Does anybody remember what comic that was in?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Ouibeaux on 12 Jun 2018, 06:42
Actually, adults don't fart. ever.

That is a dirty lie. The older humans get, the more they fart.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Thrillho on 12 Jun 2018, 08:20
Actually, adults don't fart. ever.

That is a dirty lie. The older humans get, the more they fart.

A lie as dirty as a butt!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 12 Jun 2018, 09:50
Some thoughts on 3762:

FAYE BLUSH!!! YES!!!

Panel three: Bubbles is opening up and allowing herself to believe that she could be happy like other people. I get so happy when I look at this!

Panel four: Bubbles's thousand-yard stare reminds me of two things: Angel's smash-cut sequence explaining why he doesn't dance, and the impromptu dance during the pageant rehearsal in "A Charlie Brown Christmas". And Bubbles would make a good Charlie Brown in that situation.

Angel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCYlsFagq_k
A Charlie Brown Christmas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LUXQWzCno

Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SmilingCat on 12 Jun 2018, 13:12
Not Marigold. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2651)

For the sake of me being right, I'm prepared to argue that Marigold's dance is not technically a booty dance, but a regular dance of joy that just happens to occur after she got some booty.  However, if her and Dale break up later, I'll be sure to cite it as yet another example of the booty dance being a relationship killer. :P

(actually, forgot all about that. Nice catch).
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pecoros7 on 12 Jun 2018, 14:35
For the sake of me being right, I'm prepared to argue that Marigold's dance is not technically a booty dance, but a regular dance of joy that just happens to occur after she got some booty.  However, if her and Dale break up later, I'll be sure to cite it as yet another example of the booty dance being a relationship killer. :P

I never borrowed the plaintiff's car. And even if I did, I returned it in perfect condition. And it was already damaged when he lent it to me, anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pecoros7 on 12 Jun 2018, 18:47
Comic's up

Could it be? Is Bubbles more powerful than Claire when it comes to getting under Pintsize's head? Faye's punches seem to be the least of his concern.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Jun 2018, 18:50
Oh my. It's like watching that scene where Susan Calvin methodically attacks a robot's mind.

EDIT TO ADD

The story was "Liar!", and I think she was cruel and vicious. Unlike Pintsize, Herbie was acting as compelled by his design.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 12 Jun 2018, 18:51
I almost have some sympathy for Pintsize. First he goes head to head with Claire and she owns him completely with the threat of the magic USB stick (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3079). Now he tries to humiliate Bubbles and gets humiliated even more thoroughly.

Nah, wait. The little creep had it coming to him. Sexual harassment, bordering on assault? Yup, he absolutely deserves this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: anuran on 12 Jun 2018, 18:57
Words can be weapons, and Bubbles is all about effective use of weapons.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: mephron on 12 Jun 2018, 19:08
I figured Bubbles would dismantle Pintsize, but I figured it would be tearing him apart physically, not emotionally.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SmilingCat on 12 Jun 2018, 19:12
Watch it, Bubbles. His tears are caustic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Jun 2018, 19:12
Bubbles has downloaded all of the Armed Forces Special Operations manuals on psychological warfare.

And she knows how to use them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 12 Jun 2018, 19:16
Watch it, Bubbles. His tears are caustic.
But not as caustic as her words.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: chris73 on 12 Jun 2018, 19:26
Hanners is finding herself, Martens in a committed, respectful relationship and Fayes opened herself up to real intimacy...maybe now's a good place to call time on this comic and start a new story?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: MrNumbers on 12 Jun 2018, 19:43
Did Pintsize learn nothing from the "I will fill you with databases of databases :claireface:" incident??!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 12 Jun 2018, 20:00
Okay so I hate to say it but the comic has taken, at least for me, a kind of weird turn.

Why oh why can't we just have like...two more weeks of Faye and Bubbles talking and cuddling and kissing and THEN everyone else can come back...

I don't even know what to say about today's comic. You lost me, Jeph. You're awesome, but ...you lost me here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 12 Jun 2018, 20:02
That said, Pintsize DOES seem to have a fear of intimacy. His sexual jokes and perversions seem to be a way of distancing himself from any feelings he might have for someone, knowing that his chassis isn't conducive to the kind of intimacy that Bubbles and Faye have.

Maybe he will get a humanoid chassis after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pecoros7 on 12 Jun 2018, 20:35
Okay so I hate to say it but the comic has taken, at least for me, a kind of weird turn.

Why oh why can't we just have like...two more weeks of Faye and Bubbles talking and cuddling and kissing and THEN everyone else can come back...

I don't even know what to say about today's comic. You lost me, Jeph. You're awesome, but ...you lost me here.

The comic has been almost exclusively about Faye and Bubbles for a month and a half now (excluding the filler week). Even when the rest of the cast has been present, they have been talking about Faye and Bubbles and they still are. I know that Faye and Bubbles are super important to you, but I am personally ready for the arc to begin transitioning back to the other characters. I am eager to see how Brun is getting on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Jun 2018, 20:37
DANG Bubbles. That was harsh, brutal and effective.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Jun 2018, 20:38
Go Bubbles. :D

Bubbles has downloaded all of the Armed Forces Special Operations manuals on psychological warfare.

And she knows how to use them.

Actually I suspect Bubbles has been downloading psychology texts since she started to be attracted to Faye. Both to figure out what was going on with her and with Faye....
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 12 Jun 2018, 20:48


The comic has been almost exclusively about Faye and Bubbles for a month and a half now (excluding the filler week). Even when the rest of the cast has been present, they have been talking about Faye and Bubbles and they still are. I know that Faye and Bubbles are super important to you, but I am personally ready for the arc to begin transitioning back to the other characters. I am eager to see how Brun is getting on.

Noted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Jun 2018, 21:00
"Now Mina, physical violence is not the answer. PSYCHOLOGICAL DOMINATION is the name of the game!"

--The Count, Mina and the Count
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 12 Jun 2018, 21:11
Could it be? Character development for Pintsize?

Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: LustFilledRunza on 12 Jun 2018, 21:14
Could it be? Character development for Pintsize?

...it is the end of times, indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Oh dear on 12 Jun 2018, 21:28
Today's comic is perfect!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: brasca on 12 Jun 2018, 21:32
Seeing as how violence doesn't really deter him it's about time everyone start thinking outside the box. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tyr on 12 Jun 2018, 22:03
That said, Pintsize DOES seem to have a fear of intimacy. His sexual jokes and perversions seem to be a way of distancing himself from any feelings he might have for someone, knowing that his chassis isn't conducive to the kind of intimacy that Bubbles and Faye have.

Maybe he will get a humanoid chassis after all.

Then again... We saw him open up to another AI (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=339) and get torn apart because he accidentally misgendered his prospective paramour. It's not that they were both male... it was the misgendering (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=347) that shook him up.

Jeeze. 13 years i've been reading this comic...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: oeoek on 13 Jun 2018, 00:01

(https://i.imgur.com/r5kTiqw.png)

Alas, poor Yorick Pintsize! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest...

(Sorry, it was stronger than me)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Jun 2018, 00:10
You know what I think is disturbing about this? I can't help but wonder how much Bubbles may be projecting her own issues on Pintsize. I mean, she was a mistress in trying to distance herself from all emotional connections (in her case by playing the violent and unpredictable defective war machine). On the other hand, Pintsize (in private moments with Momo which, to be fair, Bubbles knows nothing about) seems to actually have a fairly good handle on why he does what he does and for what reason.

Then again, maybe that's the point, isn't it? If we accept the thesis that Pintsize does what he does to manipulate his room-mates into a healthier mindset then might him letting Bubbles think she has a handle on him be something for exactly the same purpose?

That said, we know  that the LOOM is the most effective way to moderate Pintsize's behaviour, at least somewhat. I think that by trying to intimidate Pintsize psychologically rather than physically, Bubbles may be on a winning formula!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: oddtail on 13 Jun 2018, 02:13
I love Bubbles in today's comic. I never really bought Pintsize having any master plan or acting out of deep concern. Someone calling him out on his shit is immensely satisfying to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Jun 2018, 02:28
I could feel the letdown just looking it up on an image search.

Granted, my childhood straddled the 80s and the 90s, so I got the Insectoids Lego sets.

Those look like fun. They weren't motorized, were they? For me, that was the most amazing thing about the Micronauts: the little tank treads on Biotron and Microtron and Nemesis... I get a sensory rush just thinking about them. Heady stuff.
If you mixed in the right Technic pieces, then yes. But the sets with the abdomen piece used in the Sonic Stinger and the Celestial Stinger sets had lights and sounds.

I've still got that thing around somewhere.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Case on 13 Jun 2018, 02:57
Bubbles has downloaded all of the Armed Forces Special Operations manuals on psychological warfare.

And she knows how to use them.

Doing it in public implies that she's also familiar with the concept of deterrence ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Jun 2018, 06:21
You know what I think is disturbing about this? I can't help but wonder how much Bubbles may be projecting her own issues on Pintsize. I mean, she was a mistress in trying to distance herself from all emotional connections (in her case by playing the violent and unpredictable defective war machine). On the other hand, Pintsize (in private moments with Momo which, to be fair, Bubbles knows nothing about) seems to actually have a fairly good handle on why he does what he does and for what reason.

Then again, maybe that's the point, isn't it? If we accept the thesis that Pintsize does what he does to manipulate his room-mates into a healthier mindset then might him letting Bubbles think she has a handle on him be something for exactly the same purpose?

That said, we know  that the LOOM is the most effective way to moderate Pintsize's behaviour, at least somewhat. I think that by trying to intimidate Pintsize psychologically rather than physically, Bubbles may be on a winning formula!

Have I ever told you how much I love you? 



Well, your posts, I mean. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Netherdan on 13 Jun 2018, 06:22
Bubbles has downloaded all of the Armed Forces Special Operations manuals on psychological warfare.

And she knows how to use them.

Doing it in public implies that she's also familiar with the concept of deterrence ...

Next strip is Bubbles hugs Pintsize to de-escalate the tension
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Jun 2018, 06:25
Bubbles has downloaded all of the Armed Forces Special Operations manuals on psychological warfare.

And she knows how to use them.

Doing it in public implies that she's also familiar with the concept of deterrence ...

Next strip is Bubbles hugs Pintsize to de-escalate the tension
And accidentally crushes him in the process. RIP Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: dutchrvl on 13 Jun 2018, 06:47
Hm, I guess I'm one of the few who actually feels for Pintsize.

He has given the impression in private conversations with Momo to have a pretty wellformed idea about the best way to be a good companion to Marten.
Likewise, I actually think he is mischievous and a little shit regularly, but also that he actually cares about everybody's wellbeing. Bubbles may have hit the nail right on the head here, which makes me feel for the little guy.

All that said, his tearing up here may also be an act with him simply brushing it all off next.

Kinda hoping he won't though, because the comic seems far overdue for some character development in pintsize.

 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 13 Jun 2018, 06:59
You know what I think is disturbing about this? I can't help but wonder how much Bubbles may be projecting her own issues on Pintsize. I mean, she was a mistress in trying to distance herself from all emotional connections (in her case by playing the violent and unpredictable defective war machine). On the other hand, Pintsize (in private moments with Momo which, to be fair, Bubbles knows nothing about) seems to actually have a fairly good handle on why he does what he does and for what reason.

Then again, maybe that's the point, isn't it? If we accept the thesis that Pintsize does what he does to manipulate his room-mates into a healthier mindset then might him letting Bubbles think she has a handle on him be something for exactly the same purpose?

That said, we know  that the LOOM is the most effective way to moderate Pintsize's behaviour, at least somewhat. I think that by trying to intimidate Pintsize psychologically rather than physically, Bubbles may be on a winning formula!

Good point about the projection. She's got a deep pit of self-imposed Otherness to dig out of, and if my life experience is any indication, that won't come quick or easy.

The "Pintsize as Master Manipulator" thing is what I find most interesting about this strip. It never occurred to me that Pintsize might have planned this until someone else brought it up. Among the fan base, there seems to be a Pintsize Interpretation Spectrum, with 1 being "Pintsize is just a pervy little asshole and there's nothing under the surface" and ten being "Pintsize is operating on such a high level that he's functionally more powerful than Spookybot". I'd say I'm at about a 3 or 4. The idea of him having enough emotional intelligence to know that Bubbles would acquit herself well in response to his assholeishness, and that this would increase her social currency, resonates with me. When I came to my current job a year and a half ago, there was this guy who was an absolute dick to me. Afterward, no fewer than three people came to me and said "That guy's a dick. Don't let him get to you." His behavior ended up doing more for my integration into the social group than I did. So it rings true that Pintsize could have put himself into that role, knowing that it would help Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Inconsequential on 13 Jun 2018, 07:01
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...wobbly lines....
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Hundreds of years from now....

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"Do you see that, children? That glow in the distance, behind the radiation shielding?

That glow marks the outer limits of the molten crater left behind 700 years ago, when a small blue robot's soul was utterly annihilated. Such ownage had never been seen before, and will never be seen again. A laser-guided nuke of brutal, unflinching honesty..."

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OK, maybe that's a little much...



We've seen before that an overwhelming show of psychological force (not physical violence; he doesn't seem to mind being dented or disassembled) is just about the only way to get the little blue turd's attention and what passes for respect.

We know Pintsize isn't all horrible -- he's pretty damn insightful when he wants to be once in a great while. This could be the shove needed to get him to develop a little and move on a bit from being a one-note troll.

Here's where we start to see behind the facade a bit. "But there's a lot of different ways to do this job."
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332

We've also seen references several times that Pintsize gets pretty bored in the apartment while everyone else is out working or whatever, so perhaps we'll see some development in that direction.

I get the feeling Bubbles has been cultivating this bombshell for a while, waiting for a time when she had no more secrets of her own.

I think Pintsize will adjust his behavior (he hasn't been an asshole to Claire, so he's certainly capable) and they'll be fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fantasticalice on 13 Jun 2018, 07:02
Oh I wish I could find the WeePals comic this references. Brilliant just Brilliant.

Aware people are ruining Pintsize's life
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Jun 2018, 07:16
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnd he's back.
I knew the "basic decorum" thing wouldn't last.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 13 Jun 2018, 08:08
You know what? I don't care why Pintsize acts the way he does, and neither should you. It doesn't matter. Hazing is bullying in all cases, and Pintsize hazes everybody. He's verbally and sexually abusive -- his insistence on sharing his porn fetish is sexual, you know. His actions cause discomfort to those around him, and he not only knows this, but revels in it.

His behavior is unacceptable, no matter its cause. Bubbles is right in calling him out about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jun 2018, 08:41
Remember, Pintsize was in strip number 1.  Alongside Marten he is the longest-standing member of the cast.  But I' say he has had less development than the others from that period.  This strip may be a way for Jeph to start adjusting his character a little to make him more acceptable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Jun 2018, 09:05
On the other hand, Pintsize being horrible is one of the foundations of the Questionable Content universe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Jun 2018, 09:50
This incident would have made Bubbles my favorite character even if she hadn't been already.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: theMarc on 13 Jun 2018, 10:31
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Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Roborat on 13 Jun 2018, 11:46
Wow, that is so not the reaction I expected from Bubbles.  I thought he would be Pintsize paste staining the floor.  This is absolutely brilliant on Bubbles part, she absolutely destroys him and claims her place in the social hierarchy.  I look forward to see how he recovers from this.  And I think this is going to be one of my favourite pages, one of the few that I actually laughed when I initially read it. Nicely done.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 13 Jun 2018, 14:02
To paraphrase John Mulaney:

"Eighth Graders [and apparently artificial/emergent intelligences in combat chassis] will make fun of you, but in an accurate way."
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: OldGoat on 13 Jun 2018, 14:19
Pintsize is the archetypal trickster, the Wise Fool who is really no fool at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tova on 13 Jun 2018, 14:50
I'm not interested in seeing character development for Pintsize beyond what we've already seen. QC needs its Fool.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: zzyzx on 13 Jun 2018, 15:20
Okay so I hate to say it but the comic has taken, at least for me, a kind of weird turn.

Why oh why can't we just have like...two more weeks of Faye and Bubbles talking and cuddling and kissing and THEN everyone else can come back...

I don't even know what to say about today's comic. You lost me, Jeph. You're awesome, but ...you lost me here.

I'm just relieved to have something, anything, other than Faye and Bubbles cuddling. There have been some plots that were much more fascinating to me lately (how AI works with respect to civil rights in society, the struggles of getting a small business up and running, interesting interactions and growth between characters, and (for that matter) the logistics of AI sexuality) that it felt like stalling to me. Now that we can see others interact to the change, it's a lot more interesting to me. Obviously, others like different things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HiFranc on 13 Jun 2018, 16:03
I don’t see projection in Bubbles as she has different issues. In her case, she lost her platoon and seems to feel guilty. I don’t know how much of the description of missing memories there is but she seems to feel responsible for the deaths. We don’t know how much of that through action, inaction or simply being overwhelmed. Whatever happened, we don’t know how much is related to survivors guilt and how much is due to how much is in the detail. Furthermore, in her attempt to deal with the trauma she underwent an operation that led to the loss of said memories. In her mind that loss is another betrayal of her squad.

Add to that the fact that there have been people who have accused her of being a danger, her guilt and fear of herself took off. Corpse Witch exploited her anxieties to control her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 13 Jun 2018, 18:48
I don’t see projection in Bubbles as she has different issues. In her case, she lost her platoon and seems to feel guilty. I don’t know how much of the description of missing memories there is but she seems to feel responsible for the deaths. We don’t know how much of that through action, inaction or simply being overwhelmed. Whatever happened, we don’t know how much is related to survivors guilt and how much is due to how much is in the detail. Furthermore, in her attempt to deal with the trauma she underwent an operation that led to the loss of said memories. In her mind that loss is another betrayal of her squad.

Add to that the fact that there have been people who have accused her of being a danger, her guilt and fear of herself took off. Corpse Witch exploited her anxieties to control her.

I can't speak for BenRG, but I can tell you why I think he's onto something.

When Faye first tried to get Bubbles to come out of her shell, Bubbles ended up physically assaulting Marten and Pintsize, and taking a swing near Faye's head that ended up putting a hole in a wall. When she got back to her cave, she destroyed a bunch of punching bags while calling herself stupid.

When a group of teenagers mocked her, she violently and angrily went into isolation, yelled at Faye to get out, and then called herself weak and expressed irritation at Faye for presuming to understand.

Quite recently, she got angry at Faye, saying "Why are you smirking? Have I made a fool of myself already?"

Just hours ago in-universe, Bubbles made it clear she identifies as being different (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3753).

In short, Bubbles is self loathing and prone to isolation. This is the behavior of a person who is heavily invested in thinking of herself as a freak. For such people, the thought of change can be more scary than the pain of being a freak, not only because that pain is a known quantity, but because their ideation surrounding that pain has come to define them. They have embraced the mantle of the freak, and they will defend that image of themselves.

I did this for around thirty-five years, so I know what I'm talking about. It wasn't until I was in my forties that I was able to see what I'd been doing to myself--how I had cultivated my own freakishness. Seeing it was only the beginning. Seven years later, I'm still working to change it.

The reasons why I got to a place of isolation, self-loathing and identifying as a freak are nothing like Bubbles's. But the point is, she got there too. And anyone who gets there digs in and defends it. That's why it resonated with me when BenRG said she might be projecting. Given all of her own self-loathing, and all of her violent attempts to remain isolated, I think he has a point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 13 Jun 2018, 18:50
I'm just relieved to have something, anything, other than Faye and Bubbles cuddling. There have been some plots that were much more fascinating to me lately (how AI works with respect to civil rights in society, the struggles of getting a small business up and running, interesting interactions and growth between characters, and (for that matter) the logistics of AI sexuality) that it felt like stalling to me. Now that we can see others interact to the change, it's a lot more interesting to me. Obviously, others like different things.

Has everyone totally forgotten how damn LONG it took for them to cuddle? You can't just take it for granted. Two months ago I thought Faye for sure didn't feel the same and Bubbles was going to be devastated. I was shocked when it really happened, and it's going to take time for it to sink it for me that it's real. More of them cuddling helps, uh, cement that reality for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Undrneath on 13 Jun 2018, 18:53
I'm just relieved to have something, anything, other than Faye and Bubbles cuddling. There have been some plots that were much more fascinating to me lately (how AI works with respect to civil rights in society, the struggles of getting a small business up and running, interesting interactions and growth between characters, and (for that matter) the logistics of AI sexuality) that it felt like stalling to me. Now that we can see others interact to the change, it's a lot more interesting to me. Obviously, others like different things.

Has everyone totally forgotten how damn LONG it took for them to cuddle? You can't just take it for granted. Two months ago I thought Faye for sure didn't feel the same and Bubbles was going to be devastated. I was shocked when it really happened, and it's going to take time for it to sink it for me that it's real. More of them cuddling helps, uh, cement that reality for me.

Fear not if Jeph stays true to course we will get lots of Faybles cuddles for a long time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 13 Jun 2018, 18:58
Oh and yes, believe me, I want Brun and Clinton to kiss. Almost as badly as I wanted Bubbles and Faye to kiss. And I want Clinton and Brun to cuddle and explore each other. I totally sound like a creep when I say that but I don't mean to.

I really want Brinton to happen. Or...Clun? They are the only other pairing I give a rat's bum about besides Faybles. Maybe because I feel so much for them both. Clinton has shown in many ways that he'd be a good boyfriend, I think. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe Brun hasn't had a lot of boyfriends. I think Clinton isn't really too experienced either. Things always fizzle out before he has the chance to get to that stage.

That's why them being together would be pretty emotional for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 13 Jun 2018, 19:09
Anyone else find Faye's stance and expression in the last panel super out of character for her? lol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Jun 2018, 20:02
THAT didn't last long.

Tho I expect 'self examination' isn't a Pintsize thing anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Jun 2018, 23:28
Once again, I am left wondering just how in charge of everything and how many moves ahead Pintsize might be. Certainly, he's a consummate actor if nothing else!

However, the really weird bit about this strip is how completely unfazed Bubbles is by Pintsize's sudden change in mood. I'm left with the strong impression that she and Pintsize had a conversation here that we either didn't see (wireless comms?) or that AIs can put meaning in words that their human friends can't understand because their use of language is different. In any case, she and Pintsize seem to have come to some sort of agreement without any of their human friends being aware of it!

Finally, I do like how Faye and Claire are finally comfortable enough around each other to gush together! Considering the hostility that's sometimes overt between them, it's nice that they both feel able to express themselves in a silly way without feeling self-conscious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: traroth on 14 Jun 2018, 00:36
It's not the first time Pintsize has such a shirky behavior when confronted to sharp analysis, if I remember well. It's actually a real pattern in his behavior, in my opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: OldGoat on 14 Jun 2018, 01:06
I'm left with the strong impression that she and Pintsize had a conversation here that we either didn't see (wireless comms?) or that AIs can put meaning in words that their human friends can't understand because their use of language is different. In any case, she and Pintsize seem to have come to some sort of agreement without any of their human friends being aware of it!
It was something along the line of:

Bubbles - "Make you a deal.  If you cease and desist in these shenanigans I will refrain from ripping your chest open with my bare hands, plucking out your core personality ROM, and grinding it to powder between my fingers."

Pintsize - "Mmmm...okay.  Deal."
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Jun 2018, 01:22
I think he's three levels of irony deep, where it's both true and not true of him and even he doesn't know any more. Actually, that makes me think of something tangential...

I wonder how well he and May would get along with PissPigGranddad?

(https://i.redditmedia.com/in4ZvT64RmjMg7KzcAMjKM18_fTAxniMKZHpbxJZ81g.jpg?w=320&s=88a1349dc15e895163e6f0010c892762)

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I think going from protesting the Iraq war to dying in the dirt outside of Mosul from friendly fire makes me the ultimate Irony Boy tbh

It's a very weird, vivid thought I have about May and/or Pintsize getting in a Twitter shitpost war with this guy. If you haven't seen anything about him, I highly recommend Googling him, he's an absolute rabbit hole of a human being.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tova on 14 Jun 2018, 01:24
Today's comic is, of course, a callback to Taking All The Credit (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2927) and Penetrating Questions (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2928).
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: dutchrvl on 14 Jun 2018, 07:08
Wow, that is so not the reaction I expected from Bubbles.  I thought he would be Pintsize paste staining the floor.  This is absolutely brilliant on Bubbles part, she absolutely destroys him and claims her place in the social hierarchy.  I look forward to see how he recovers from this.  And I think this is going to be one of my favourite pages, one of the few that I actually laughed when I initially read it. Nicely done.

Hm, I'm somewhat curious what particular made you laugh about this one.

While a great and rather powerful comic, nothing about it struck me as a 'haha' aspect (?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 14 Jun 2018, 07:09
I say the following knowing full well the degree to which I am projecting. I'm probably off-base.

I'm disquieted by this strip, and since the other night I've been trying to figure out why. I think it's because I'm convinced that Bubbles is not as calm as she seems. She is torn apart inside, and devoting most of her mental energy to putting on a calm exterior. And that shit will come out sideways somewhere down the line.

For reasons why I feel this way, see my post from last night. We've seen many examples of her fear of anyone being hurt because of her, her self-loathing, her violent attempts to isolate, her fear of being laughed at, and the anger she turns on herself for having presumed to live like a normal person. I'm sure that she was grappling with all that when she entered into verbal combat with Pintsize. She was cornered, and she was full of fear, and she had to show the world that she wasn't afraid of him. So her emotional landscape was nothing like what she let show.

In short, she needed to be seen to win that fight, but in reality no one won. She's roiling inside. Don't believe me? OK. "Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"??? That sounds forced and artificial, even for Bubbles. She's straining to sound all cazh n' shit.

Again, I know my experience isn't everyone's. I envy people who can engage in this sort of confrontation and not come out of it feeling like they've been dunked in acid. It's just that there are reasons why I identify with Bubbles so strongly, and if I'm not completely wrong about her, then her emotional problems will be every bit as much of an obstacle to their relationship as Faye's. Faye is afraid of people leaving her, and deep down she fears that she will be the reason they leave. Bubbles is afraid of people being hurt because of her, and that fear makes it hella convenient to retreat into that comfortably cold mantle of the freak who should never have dreamed of being anything but alone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Jun 2018, 07:22
Wow, that is so not the reaction I expected from Bubbles.  I thought he would be Pintsize paste staining the floor.  This is absolutely brilliant on Bubbles part, she absolutely destroys him and claims her place in the social hierarchy.  I look forward to see how he recovers from this.  And I think this is going to be one of my favourite pages, one of the few that I actually laughed when I initially read it. Nicely done.

Hm, I'm somewhat curious what particular made you laugh about this one.

While a great and rather powerful comic, nothing about it struck me as a 'haha' aspect (?)

For me at least it was the combination of total surprise and sudden truth.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Wagimawr on 14 Jun 2018, 08:28
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Jun 2018, 08:40
It's maybe an echo of Corpse Witch breezily saying "Ta!" after reprimanding Faye for fixing May. It's indeed uncommon, so that may have been the only time Bubbles had heard it, so it may come to her mind as the way to do contemptuous dismissal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 14 Jun 2018, 09:16
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".

Wait, so Brits still use it? I was under the impression that it was something that only the oldest people would say without irony, and that younger people would only say it theatrically.

It's maybe an echo of Corpse Witch breezily saying "Ta!" after reprimanding Faye for fixing May. It's indeed uncommon, so that may have been the only time Bubbles had heard it, so it may come to her mind as the way to do contemptuous dismissal.

!!! Oh my... I forgot that Corpse Witch used it!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Jun 2018, 09:17
There is a mix of theatricality and irony in all generations. I've certainly used it seriously with my students, who are all around a decade younger than me at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Jun 2018, 09:20
I do believe (or maybe hope) that there was a long delay from panel 1 to 2A. Some sort of indication Pintsize received that told him, "Hey, she isn't going to pound me into paste! I can return to my usual subroutines!"

Then, when he got the eye-roll response from Bubs, he realized he was off the proverbial hook - for now. And that dismissive "Ta" was probably exactly what IICIH suggested - a backhanded dismissal.

In all, I think Bubs wanted to intimidate Pintsize into submission (of a sort), not destroy him - and that out of respect for Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 Jun 2018, 10:25
I say the following knowing full well the degree to which I am projecting. I'm probably off-base.

I'm disquieted by this strip, and since the other night I've been trying to figure out why. I think it's because I'm convinced that Bubbles is not as calm as she seems. She is torn apart inside, and devoting most of her mental energy to putting on a calm exterior. And that shit will come out sideways somewhere down the line.

For reasons why I feel this way, see my post from last night. We've seen many examples of her fear of anyone being hurt because of her, her self-loathing, her violent attempts to isolate, her fear of being laughed at, and the anger she turns on herself for having presumed to live like a normal person. I'm sure that she was grappling with all that when she entered into verbal combat with Pintsize. She was cornered, and she was full of fear, and she had to show the world that she wasn't afraid of him. So her emotional landscape was nothing like what she let show.

In short, she needed to be seen to win that fight, but in reality no one won. She's roiling inside. Don't believe me? OK. "Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"??? That sounds forced and artificial, even for Bubbles. She's straining to sound all cazh n' shit.

Again, I know my experience isn't everyone's. I envy people who can engage in this sort of confrontation and not come out of it feeling like they've been dunked in acid. It's just that there are reasons why I identify with Bubbles so strongly, and if I'm not completely wrong about her, then her emotional problems will be every bit as much of an obstacle to their relationship as Faye's. Faye is afraid of people leaving her, and deep down she fears that she will be the reason they leave. Bubbles is afraid of people being hurt because of her, and that fear makes it hella convenient to retreat into that comfortably cold mantle of the freak who should never have dreamed of being anything but alone.


I'm like Bubbles too. I don't anticipate a Faye coming along to save me anytime soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2018, 11:28
Wait, so Brits still use it? I was under the impression that it was something that only the oldest people would say without irony, and that younger people would only say it theatrically.

This old Brit uses it without thought; but I suspect that many of my peers would think it undignified, something which only younger people would use...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SpanielBear on 14 Jun 2018, 11:37
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".

Wait, so Brits still use it? I was under the impression that it was something that only the oldest people would say without irony, and that younger people would only say it theatrically.


This (31 year old, but I have siblings still at uni) Brit has used it unironically and heard it used frequently. It may be more a northern thing, but I haven't even seen that much of a divide. Pretty much just a general casual thanks.

Examples:
A
"Cuppa tea?"

"Ooh, that'd be lovely, ta!"

B
"Here's your pint."

"Ta."

C (alternate usage, doubled up as a casual goodbye)
"I'm just popping to the shop, back in a mo."

"Ta-ta!"

(Hmm, I don't actually know the linguistic root of that last one. To google!)

(Edit: A brief Google gives me a variety of possibilities. The most common explanation is it is just baby talk like da-da that we ended up using as we got older. Then there are suggestions it could have celtic roots, particularly as a varient is "Ta-ra", as in the old Irish city. And finaly, my favourite, a suggestion that it, like many british words, was adopted as part of our magpie appropriation of languages during the empire and that it comes from Swahili. Hakuna Matata.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 14 Jun 2018, 11:57
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".

Wait, so Brits still use it? I was under the impression that it was something that only the oldest people would say without irony, and that younger people would only say it theatrically.


This (31 year old, but I have siblings still at uni) Brit has used it unironically and heard it used frequently. It may be more a northern thing, but I haven't even seen that much of a divide. Pretty much just a general casual thanks.
...

Well this is fascinating. I have no recollection of having heard it in real life. Either I am even less observant than I think, or it simply isn't in use on this side of the pond.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 Jun 2018, 12:43
I'm on the same side of the pond and have heard people say ta ta, so YMMV. I figure "ta" is just a cute way to shorten it. It didn't strike me as weird in any way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Welu on 14 Jun 2018, 14:51
I mainly hear "Ta" and especially "Ta-ta" when speaking to young children, as a "Please give me what you're holding" noise. Also used as "thank you" and "goodbye" a lot in many contexts but when speaking to children is mostly when I hear it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Jun 2018, 15:38
<snip>I'm convinced that Bubbles is not as calm as she seems. She is torn apart inside, and devoting most of her mental energy to putting on a calm exterior. And that shit will come out sideways somewhere down the line.
<snip>

Insightful. Bubbles has summoned the moxie and the rarest form of courage to win a battle against her emotional problems. She has won that battle and taken valuable ground but the enemy remains. A close relationship is going to bring up all her issues sooner or later.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: JackMann on 14 Jun 2018, 18:13
The thing with Pintsize is that, unlike the other AIs, he isn't really treated as a person. Doesn't really invite it, either.

Like, take half of Pintsize's shenanigans, and imagine, say, Steve was doing them. Or some other adult dude. Can you imagine the group continuing to tolerate his presence? They'd kick a jackass like that to the curb and never speak with him again.. Instead, they react to him with eyerolls and occasional violence.

The violence is also kind of part of it. If you have someone in a group who you regularly felt you needed to literally throw into a wall, you'd probably think something was wrong. Sure, he's a tough little robot who can be put back together, but it still apparently hurts.

Again, imagine he was a human. You have some dude who regularly harasses the people around him (sometimes sexually), but it's "justified" because the cast members beat him up, or duct-tape him to the wall, or what have you. It's a fairly unhealthy dynamic.

This made a bit more sense early on in the strip. AnthroPCs and other AIs had very simple, somewhat innocent personalities. They weren't really responsible enough to be treated like adults, but weren't really children either. Now, both individually and as a group, AIs have matured as time has gone by, especially as Jeph has deepened his worldbuilding and storytelling. The world is much more complex than it was. But not Pintsize.

He acts like he's the same mascot/pet he's always been, rather than a person who's responsible for their actions and how they impact those around them. Early on, most AIs (generally AnthroPCs) acted similarly. Not in the same way as him, but not like responsible adults. Winslow and Momo are good examples. It's significant that both of them now have full-sized, fully humanoid bodies as they've accepted more "adult" responsibilities.

Now Pintsize is faced with a world that's changed, and he hasn't changed with it. He might worry that he can't. He's showing some understanding at times that his behavior isn't acceptable. That they aren't just harmless shenanigans. But I think he's also uncertain about whether or not he can change, and whether or not he can face up to his old self. Becoming an "adult" means facing up to all of the things he's done, accepting responsibility for them. So he tries to cement his non-person position by deliberately rejecting responsibility for his actions.

I could be reaching here, but I feel that there's more of a performative, theatrical nature to a lot of his more recent stunts; that he's doing them specifically to keep people thinking of him as the same ol' Pintsize. Pintsize, that goof. With his shenanigans, and wackiness. He's like a cartoon character, or a naughty little puppy who can talk! He can't help being him. I think a lot of the cast accept him that way because that's how they've always known him (and it was unusual for most people at the time to run into AIs who weren't at least a little bit like that). Others, like Claire, accept the dynamic because they want to be part of the group. Winslow and Momo disapprove of his actions, but they also "grew up" with him, and they're desensitized to him.

Bubbles knows better, and she's never had a reason to think of him as anything other than another fully-sapient person who should know better. She's from outside the social circle, so she doesn't have preconceived ideas. I expect that she'll continue to call him on his jackassery.

I feel like Jeph's setting things up for some character growth for Pintsize, and I'm looking forward to seeing where he goes with this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Jun 2018, 18:35
Comic’s up.

That poor bed frame.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 14 Jun 2018, 18:40
Ahhhhhh! Oh, that was just what I needed! A light (ha!) bit of whimsy after all that heavy drama. Like dessert. *mwah!*
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: ImVeryAngryItsNotButter on 14 Jun 2018, 18:43
The bed couldn't handle all that thiccness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tova on 14 Jun 2018, 18:49
Any lingering doubt as to whether Jeph is listening to his fans should now be banished.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: zisraelsen on 14 Jun 2018, 19:02
Truck suspension is an excellent cheap and simple solution to the problem AND provides a very convenient setup for "truck bed" puns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 14 Jun 2018, 19:08
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".

Wait, so Brits still use it? I was under the impression that it was something that only the oldest people would say without irony, and that younger people would only say it theatrically.

I hear it used casually a lot as a thank-you - it's mostly a regional thing though, I think (primarily used in Northern England). The Southern equivalent would probably be "cheers".
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Jun 2018, 19:21
Hopefully they're on the first floor, because otherwise, the poor people below them...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: JackMann on 14 Jun 2018, 19:38
Hopefully they're on the first floor, because otherwise, the poor people below them...  :psyduck:

I'm like 90% we've seen them climb stairs to the apartment, so...
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: LustFilledRunza on 14 Jun 2018, 19:57
Comic’s up.

That poor bed frame.

RIP Bed.   

Considering that there was a time when she didn't even HAVE a bed and slept on the couch and it was a plot point when she did get the bed...   maybe we should do an arc covering the trials and tribulations of the various furniture items in the apartment.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 Jun 2018, 20:07
Quote
truck suspension

She had dumps like a truck. Truck. Truck.

Thighs like what.

What. What.

All night long...

 :-P

Maybe this relationship will reduce Bubbles' blushing. As she becomes more comfortable with things, perhaps her face will darken less often.

I wonder about AI blushing and how it works. Sure is cute when Bubbles blushes, but it makes me wonder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 14 Jun 2018, 20:10
Bubbles has also fatally compromised the shape of Faye's favorite shirt. That's true love right there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Jun 2018, 20:25
I do believe I "called it" on the bed springs back when folks were first asking why they don't just share the bed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Jun 2018, 20:39
Hopefully they're on the first floor, because otherwise, the poor people below them...  :psyduck:

I'm like 90% we've seen them climb stairs to the apartment, so...
Hopefully, Juicy is in the apartment below them, because I can't think of anyone else in the comic I'd be willing to subject to that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Theta9 on 14 Jun 2018, 20:42
Early on, most AIs (generally AnthroPCs) acted similarly. Not in the same way as him, but not like responsible adults. Winston and Momo are good examples. It's significant that both of them now have full-sized, fully humanoid bodies as they've accepted more "adult" responsibilities.

...Winston and Momo disapprove of his actions, but they also "grew up" with him, and they're desensitized to him.

His name is Winslow. There's no Winston in the strip as far as I know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tova on 14 Jun 2018, 20:43
I do believe I "called it" on the bed springs back when folks were first asking why they don't just share the bed.

Is there a term analogous to "called it" when you didn't so much predict something as to make it happen?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 14 Jun 2018, 20:45
I do believe I "called it" on the bed springs back when folks were first asking why they don't just share the bed.

Is there a term analogous to "called it" when you didn't so much predict something as to make it happen?
I believe that the saying is "caused it!".
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: JackMann on 14 Jun 2018, 20:50
Early on, most AIs (generally AnthroPCs) acted similarly. Not in the same way as him, but not like responsible adults. Winston and Momo are good examples. It's significant that both of them now have full-sized, fully humanoid bodies as they've accepted more "adult" responsibilities.

...Winston and Momo disapprove of his actions, but they also "grew up" with him, and they're desensitized to him.

His name is Winslow. There's no Winston in the strip as far as I know.

D'oh! I knew I should've checked when I was writing the post. Fixed now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Tova on 14 Jun 2018, 20:56
I do believe I "called it" on the bed springs back when folks were first asking why they don't just share the bed.

Is there a term analogous to "called it" when you didn't so much predict something as to make it happen?
I believe that the saying is "caused it!".

I dunno, it's not quite as punchy, somehow.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 14 Jun 2018, 21:05
Faye in panel four is alarmingly sexy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 14 Jun 2018, 22:07
Comic’s up.

That poor bed frame.

RIP Bed.   

Considering that there was a time when she didn't even HAVE a bed and slept on the couch and it was a plot point when she did get the bed...   maybe we should do an arc covering the trials and tribulations of the various furniture items in the apartment.   

Yes, I can still remember the day when that bed first showed up... (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=401)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: AlliedToasters on 14 Jun 2018, 22:31
It's maybe an echo of Corpse Witch breezily saying "Ta!" after reprimanding Faye for fixing May. It's indeed uncommon, so that may have been the only time Bubbles had heard it, so it may come to her mind as the way to do contemptuous dismissal.
Or in 3364 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3364) after sending Roko away. Corpse witch used to use the term condescendingly, and bubbles worked with her a long time and is channeling her, intentionally or not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Jun 2018, 23:14
All I can do is echo all who said: "RIP Bed". It served its mistress long and well but there are some things that cannot be endured no matter how great the will to do so!

By the way, this isn't a body-weight thing. It's an 'enthusiastic activities' thing. It puts me in mind of the last arc of David M Willis's It's Walky, where Walky and Joyce manage to break two or three beds on their first night together. Put enough passion onto a bed and the bed just simply doesn't stand a chance! :-o

Now I can't help but wonder what unnatural combination of metalworking and comfort that Faye will come up with? Can a bed look like a set prop from Mad Max? Would Bubbles tolerate such? All I can say for sure is that I agree that Faye would want it to have a spoiler and flame decals!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 15 Jun 2018, 01:13
"Ta." "Ta"??? Who says "Ta"???

Some Brits do. Short for "Thank you", at least in the context I've heard the Beatles use it :laugh: probably not what Jeph was going for here. In this case probably a terse "ta ta!" as in "goodbye" as in "get out of my hand you little weasel".

Certainly Scots use it for Thanks. (But it was a bit odd seeing bubbles using it)
Don't think I've ever heardit used as an even shorter version of Ta-ta, or ta-ra (both 'see ya')
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: HughYeman on 15 Jun 2018, 03:07
I do believe I "called it" on the bed springs back when folks were first asking why they don't just share the bed.

Is there a term analogous to "called it" when you didn't so much predict something as to make it happen?
I believe that the saying is "caused it!".

I dunno, it's not quite as punchy, somehow.  :clairedoge:

Naming calls.

EDIT:
Oh, also: From your lips to God's ears.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: SpanielBear on 15 Jun 2018, 04:40
The death of the bed. It's true, it is a good framing device. It actually makes me think those who have predicted Q.C. is wrapping up may be onto something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Jun 2018, 05:55
QC wrapping up? Well, Yelling Bird revealed Jeph’s retirement plan (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1620) a few years ago, and it seems like he’s starting to implement phase 1, so...

;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: brasca on 15 Jun 2018, 06:56
Hopefully they're on the first floor, because otherwise, the poor people below them...  :psyduck:

I'm like 90% we've seen them climb stairs to the apartment, so...
Hopefully, Juicy is in the apartment below them, because I can't think of anyone else in the comic I'd be willing to subject to that.

Except she’s likely to complain to the superintendent who’s probably not going to be pleased that their lovemaking knocked all the plaster off the ceiling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Jun 2018, 07:01
One wonders how Marten slept through that. Or whatever.

WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMPO CRASH BANG.....

"They stopped. Thank goodness."

"Round two!"

WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP WHUMPO CRASH BANG.....

"Arrrgh!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Jun 2018, 07:06
Unless otherwise stated, my headcanon is that Juicy either the landlord or the landlord's partner. She's the plot device that will force the main cast out of the apartment and into a mansion on the outskirts of town wherein Hannelore will need to decide if she really wants to be the eccentric lady of the house who communicates with everyone else by notes the way that Emily Dickinson (poet and historical neighbour) did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Theta9 on 15 Jun 2018, 07:14
QC wrapping up? Well, Yelling Bird revealed Jeph’s retirement plan (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1620) a few years ago....
YB said that's "the next five years worth of QC strips"; how old is that strip? JJ doesn't datestamp them.

...NVM there's the copyright date at the bottom which gives us the year at least - 2010.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: dutchrvl on 15 Jun 2018, 07:18
The death of the bed. It's true, it is a good framing device. It actually makes me think those who have predicted Q.C. is wrapping up may be onto something.

If he is, I hope it'll be because he is starting another frequently updated webcomic, because I would terribly miss JJ's style and humor, but especially his knack of making you really empathize with all his characters....

Anyway, I'm not expecting it to happen any time soon, not least because AFAIK the QC Patreon is a major source of revenue that allows him to be a FT free webcomic writer(?), so at the very least he'd likely need some kind of alternative rev. stream (unless of course he already does plenty on the side of QC that can easily be expanded into QC-revenue equivalent).

Apologies if this is somewhat inappropriate to discuss on this forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Jun 2018, 07:34
Questionable Content has evolved. It started out as a 20-something sitcom, turned into a romantic comedy of sorts and then into social commentary. Right now, it's turning into a hard sci-fi story about how AIs would integrate with and change contemporary human civilisation. Because of that, I don't think it is likely to end any time soon. It is more likely to move onto another theme in time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: ToodleLew on 15 Jun 2018, 08:34
That poor bed frame.

"Impetuous. Homeric!"
Michaleen Oge Flynn (Barry Fitzgerald), after witnessing the state of the matrimonial bed, "The Quiet Man"
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Jun 2018, 10:34
"Impetuous. Homeric!"

Love that line too. And of course during the film’s first run that line was censored in Massachusetts. (We’ve lightened up considerably since the 1950s.)

Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Roborat on 15 Jun 2018, 11:52
While they are dealing with the bed, they should also evaluate the structural integrity of the floor.  Otherwise the tenants below them might get a surprise visit from their upstairs neighbours.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: fantasticalice on 15 Jun 2018, 17:59
While they are dealing with the bed, they should also evaluate the structural integrity of the floor.  Otherwise the tenants below them might get a surprise visit from their upstairs neighbours.

Now you have me hoping they forget to evaluate the floor and that the downstairs neighbours are horrible homophobic anti-robot folk.

Cause honestly if I could fall through a ceiling of the people who treat me like garbage scantily clad with my arms wrapped around an SO it would make my year.

Just having this thought has made my whole day better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Meadomancer on 16 Jun 2018, 06:26
Truck suspension is an excellent cheap and simple solution to the problem AND provides a very convenient setup for "truck bed" puns.

I hereby submit the term "off-roading" as a new euphamism for sexy shennanigans requiring use of the aforementioned truck bed. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Jakk Frost on 16 Jun 2018, 09:28
Cue Faye singing "♪ ♫ She ain't heavy, she's my lover ♬"

Mind you, in a way the whole song could be representative of their relationship, even without the joke.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: anahata on 16 Jun 2018, 09:49
Questionable Content has evolved. It started out as a 20-something sitcom, turned into a romantic comedy of sorts and then into social commentary.

Its started as a comic about indie music fans, but that went nowhere in about 10 seconds.
The social commentary was there from quite an early stage, I'd have thought.
The biggest evolution has been in the quality of drawing, and also over time there's been less of the really off-the-wall dialogue. Bubbles' recent lecture at Pintsize was somewhat remiscent of that, but generally I think Jeph's less wordy than he used to be. No, I'm not going to prepare a graph of average word count per strip vs. time, I'll let someone else do that .
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Morituri on 17 Jun 2018, 13:05
Oh, hell, as long as people are picking random couples out of the cast and talking about them getting married, why not Tilly and Tortura?  I think there's an entire comedy series - with moments of both heart-touching adorable and hair-raising terror - in that one.

There is at least one problem with it though. Has Tilly ever expressed a gender preference?  Or for that matter a gender?
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 17 Jun 2018, 13:22
Oh, hell, as long as people are picking random couples out of the cast and talking about them getting married, why not Tilly and Tortura?  I think there's an entire comedy series - with moments of both heart-touching adorable and hair-raising terror - in that one.

There is at least one problem with it though. Has Tilly ever expressed a gender preference?  Or for that matter a gender?
Tilly prefers they/them, which suggests that they're non-binary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Jun 2018, 14:59
They also chose a presentation that was not gender-specific.

Tilly doesn't have an article in the wiki!
Title: Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 17 Jun 2018, 16:07
Also, there's no particular issue with gender identity and marriage. I get to attend the wedding of one of my children-of-choice this fall: they and their spouse certainly won't have any trouble with their vows.