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Title: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Jul 2018, 14:27
Okay, I'll freely admit that I'm short of good ideas at the moment so I thought that a summer-themed poll was in order. Where would you like Jeph to send members of the cast on a summer vacation-themed arc?

I'm partial to California as we could have lots of interesting reunions with Marten's childhood chums. Bonus points for the most unconventional ones have settled down, become stock brokers and have 2.4 white picket fences. Maybe also the androids could enjoy interacting with their kin at Disneyland?

As for this week in the comic? I'm thinking that Jeph is going to clear up a few ambiguities with Brun and Clinton which may or may not impact on Elliott's personal happiness.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Jul 2018, 14:52
A "new" space hotel?

Station is going to be a tad bit miffed at that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 01 Jul 2018, 16:17
Hell, which I am fairly certain has to be cooler than it is here.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 01 Jul 2018, 17:46
Other.

Another visit to Station? :D With Bubbles along?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Jul 2018, 18:28
Emily's parent's lake house. 

I know, it's been done, but I think it's a handy retreat for members of the cast. 



Of course, they're all still wearing jackets - it may well be 2019 before it's summer in North Hampton again. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Jul 2018, 18:43

Of course, they're all still wearing jackets - it may well be 2019 before it's summer in North Hampton again. 
Brun is sending some really mixed signals by wearing a jacket and shorts...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Jul 2018, 18:46
New comic's up! 


I'd like to meet that fire investigator.  Does this mean her insurance won't be paying out for the lost clocks? 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 01 Jul 2018, 19:02

Of course, they're all still wearing jackets - it may well be 2019 before it's summer in North Hampton again. 
Brun is sending some really mixed signals by wearing a jacket and shorts...

I think that's just a hoody. No idea about Mass, but where I'm from the hoody/shorts combo is a common spring outfit.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 01 Jul 2018, 19:09
Someday a coroner is going to write “gross existential negligence” on my death certificate.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Jul 2018, 19:09
New comic's up! 


I'd like to meet that fire investigator.  Does this mean her insurance won't be paying out for the lost clocks?
What insurance? (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3229)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Jul 2018, 19:27
You'd hope the bar itself had insurance. She could get her $ back through that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Undrneath on 01 Jul 2018, 19:32
Her responses shortly after the fire lead me to believe the owner of the bar was the shady type that wouldn't have had proper insurance.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 01 Jul 2018, 22:11

Of course, they're all still wearing jackets - it may well be 2019 before it's summer in North Hampton again. 
Brun is sending some really mixed signals by wearing a jacket and shorts...
At least she's not rockin' socks with sandals Seattle style.  Knee socks & sneakers are hopelessly retro in these parts.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Jul 2018, 23:19
This is really a sweet strip in many ways. Knowing what we do about Brun and suspecting what we suspect, starting a conversation with Clinton based on socially-appropriate small talk was really a huge step for her to take. Indeed, panel 5 makes me wonder if Brun in worrying that the negative emotional content of their first meeting is unfavourably colouring his perception of her. She has nothing to worry about but it is likely something he is going to have to directly tell her for her to be fully reassured.

So, it seems that Brun's old workplace was so hazardous that literally all it would have taken to burn the place down would be for someone to snap their fingers at the wrong moment. Which is cool, in a certain terrifying way!

You'd hope the bar itself had insurance. She could get her $ back through that.

Brun has already talked to her boss about the insurance claim. He said that he might just take the insurance settlement and skip to Tahiti. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3262) He also said it in a way that made Brun think that it was the most likely thing he would choose to do and that leaving her high and dry was part of the joke.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 02 Jul 2018, 00:20
Poor Brun. Likely not getting a payout on her lost clocks...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Milayna on 02 Jul 2018, 05:46
Heh. A few years ago I got a new manager at work. So I was standing around with everybody else at the conveyor line where we unload product from the truck, and he makes the rounds introducing himself - though I don't notice till he gets to me. So he goes "Hey there, I'm X, nice to meet you!" and I go "Cool, nice to meet you too!" and he walks off. Ten seconds later I'm like "Oh shit! I forgot to introduce myself!" and run after him while the guys around me laugh "yeah that's why he looked so confused". (I didn't even notice he was confused).

Also that exact same thing in the comic happens to me constantly...it's hard to remember when you're supposed to make socially-appropriate gestures, and exactly what gesture to pair with a particular gesture.

With enough self-training and perception, one can pick up on...well, at least some subtle cues. As Brun stated, she was able to read what was going on with Clinton at the time, since he made enough outward signs and speech implications for her to parse through. But even a little masking can make it far harder to figure out.

And she also picked up on Clinton's subtle condescension in panel 3. I think she also picked up that it wasn't intentional; he was trying to be nice - so she firmly but gently corrected him. If he was being intentionally condescending I'd expect a response more along the line of "I see. So you think I'm stupid." and disengage. As for Clinton, he's trying to be nice, but doing it in a way that NT people stereotypically do - he's essentially saying "Nah, you aren't broken, remember that one time you did the thing just fine? You're really fine as anybody else." This both denies aspects of herself that she KNOWS about herself, difficulties that she KNOWS she has, and implies that having them makes her less-than; that the standard - the "normalcy" - is neurotypical.

Which is something that I think the autistic community pushes back on - you can understand that as "differently abled" rather than "disabled". All that said...sigh...it's nice that this is a comic, because in real life, even if a person isn't explicitly bigoted against autistic people...well, there's a lot of subtle social cues, from gestures, facial expressions, tone of voice, to even the information-light "conversation about the conversation itself" way they speak that...if you're just not any good at hitting those notes, people will read you as "off", or "retarded", or just not someone they really have any interest in bothering with. Humans evolved to be social animals, after all - you gotta do the social thing right to really be included in anything.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: shanejayell on 02 Jul 2018, 20:19
New comic up!

Poor Elliot.  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 02 Jul 2018, 21:06
I'm curious to learn where Elliot is from or what his childhood was like (I'm well aware of the amount of sad the latter could potentially hold).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cybersmurf on 02 Jul 2018, 22:13
Elliot, dude, how do you even get around, with your foot constantly crammed up your mouth?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 02 Jul 2018, 22:43
That's what I've been doing wrong in my job search. I haven't been applying at bars.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tyr on 02 Jul 2018, 22:49
Elliot, dude, how do you even get around, with your foot constantly crammed up your mouth?
He's exceptionally not wrong, though. Brun is doing barback work which is less than ideal, but that's still IN THE FIELD of bartending. This is the same argument Dora had with Penelope about not wanting to put the effort in to climb the job ladder.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Jul 2018, 23:25
I do kind of worry about Elliott though. Admittedly, some of what he said could be considered insulting but I worry far more about how he's looking for reasons to remove himself socially from this interaction. By all means apologise if someone takes offence but what he's doing is in some way rubbing it in and is only hurting himself and drawing attention to what he said and emphasising why people should take offence! I think that he has some real strong self-esteem issues (I also base this on the fact that he didn't seem to understand why Renee reacted so strongly to a sight of his unshirted body).

Brun isn't wrong though. Claire is going to have to be ready to do some other jobs until she's able to find her 'dream job' (if ever). There's really no good result from waiting until it comes along!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 03 Jul 2018, 08:09
WRT the poll - I chose other which in this case is something a bit more practical and within the realm of "normal"1 possibility.

I put forth either Quebec City - all the ambiance of Paris without worrying about the prevailing wind
Or Montreal - just as picturesque but a little less tourist centric, a bit more cosmopolitan and the veneer is a whole lot thinner
Bonuses are - travel costs, need for passports2, The friendly veneer is thin so you will be ignored as an outsider just like in Paris
Warning - the language spoken is NOT Modern Parisian French but that of King Louis so you WILL BE at a loss if attempting to use high-school or college french. [let the fun begin]

1 Normal in this case refers to the choices of a statically average American somewhere in the northeast who would actually travel out-of-state.
2 I am assuming here that the setting is sans xenophobes holding political power except in Quebec
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: War Sparrow on 03 Jul 2018, 08:39
Bonus: In Montreal, pretty much everyone speaks English in the downtown region, that I've seen. I suspect tourist and business interests.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Jul 2018, 08:42
After much disappointment and angst, Claire will be hired as Chief Librarian for Sam's high school.  The set-up will be establishing a familial relationship between them at home to allow for humor-generating situational awkwardness between them at school.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 03 Jul 2018, 08:43

Warning - the language spoken is NOT Modern Parisian French but that of King Louis so you WILL BE at a loss if attempting to use high-school or college french. [let the fun begin]


I know a guy from Montreal who regularly has to travel to France (he's a particle physicist, so he has to go to CERN every once in a while), and he said that when he tries to speak French in France the people there automatically switch to English because they can't understand his French.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: brasca on 03 Jul 2018, 09:06
I know Brun doesn’t want to be a bar back, but I thought it was a stepping stone to get back to bartending.  Maybe she wants to do something else.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Penquin47 on 03 Jul 2018, 11:23
Brun isn't wrong though. Claire is going to have to be ready to do some other jobs until she's able to find her 'dream job' (if ever). There's really no good result from waiting until it comes along!

I think Claire's prepared for the fact that she won't be getting her dream job right away, but there's a huge difference in "I'm a barback for now but my goal is to get back to being a bartender" and "I'm a barback for now but I have a master's degree in library science and want to be a librarian."  Claire is probably going to be looking for something that at least relates to books or knowledge.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 03 Jul 2018, 15:39
I've been to  a restaurant where the walls were lined with bookshelves. You could grab a book to peruse while waiting for your dinner. Maybe buy it on your way out.

Also, I second Québec City.  You can bone up for it by reading  "Frivolesque"  (http://frivolesque.com/).


Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 03 Jul 2018, 19:38
I'm really starting to enjoy the Bakery Gang becoming their own separate social group from the core Coffee of Doom pals. This strip indicates that Roko might become the fifth member of said gang (after Clinton, Brun, Renee, and Elliot, natch), which would be interesting. I would love to see Roko have some interactions that are neither professional nor extremely awkward, because that's most of what we've gotten from her so far.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 03 Jul 2018, 20:27
How do you cuddle a baby AI?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Jul 2018, 20:49
How do you cuddle a baby AI?
Good question.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 03 Jul 2018, 21:09
I think there's a word for the main action of the scene taking place in the background instead of the foreground, but I forget it. Jeph does it really well in this strip, is what I'm trying to say.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 03 Jul 2018, 22:01
I think there's a word for the main action of the scene taking place in the background instead of the foreground, but I forget it. Jeph does it really well in this strip, is what I'm trying to say.

Funny Background Event* (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FunnyBackgroundEvent) can also occur in the foreground as well.

* - TV Tropes link. Click at your own risk.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: brasca on 03 Jul 2018, 22:25
The Secret Bakery must make some really good stuff for Roko to keep returning.  She probably suspects that Rene suspects her fetish, but can't just choose an oblivious baker. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Jul 2018, 23:14
I've long held the opinion that the vaccine for bigotry is early and intensive social contact. If you've known people all your life, then it's very hard to 'other' them. You're still free to hate them on a personal level because you meet them every and they're a complete and utter asshole but you are unlikely to have bigoted freelings towards the. ECI seem to have had the same idea about humans and AIs.

How does one cuddle a baby AI? Apparently by wiping down their casing with an anti-static cleaning cloth!

The Secret Bakery must make some really good stuff for Roko to keep returning.  She probably suspects that Rene suspects her fetish, but can't just choose an oblivious baker. 

I'm wondering if it's a case of proximity. It's close enough to Roko's apartment that she can race down to get her fix and race back with a minimal chance of anyone else noticing. I mean, Roko's 'shame' body language is screaming out in both panels 2 and 4 today; this is not something with which she feels comfortable. I've said it before but she really needs to relax over this issue or she's going to end up damaging herself by continually overheating!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Oenone on 04 Jul 2018, 06:38
I've long held the opinion that the vaccine for bigotry is early and intensive social contact. If you've known people all your life, then it's very hard to 'other' them. You're still free to hate them on a personal level because you meet them every and they're a complete and utter asshole but you are unlikely to have bigoted freelings towards the. ECI seem to have had the same idea about humans and AIs.

How does one cuddle a baby AI? Apparently by wiping down their casing with an anti-static cleaning cloth!

The Secret Bakery must make some really good stuff for Roko to keep returning.  She probably suspects that Rene suspects her fetish, but can't just choose an oblivious baker. 

I'm wondering if it's a case of proximity. It's close enough to Roko's apartment that she can race down to get her fix and race back with a minimal chance of anyone else noticing. I mean, Roko's 'shame' body language is screaming out in both panels 2 and 4 today; this is not something with which she feels comfortable. I've said it before but she really needs to relax over this issue or she's going to end up damaging herself by continually overheating!

If knowing the “other” reduced bigotry then sexism and racism would’ve ended during the antebellum South. HOW you know POC and women matters.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Jul 2018, 06:46
Having grown up in an ethnically diverse area, I know that for me personally and many others it removed the 'other-ing' factor, but for the people it didn't do that for, it made them outright racist. It mostly created a polarisation. This is why these things need to be worked on at every level.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: traroth on 04 Jul 2018, 13:01
Bread porn... Isn't Roko recognizing Clinton as her savior from x nights before?

Also: I voted Paris, because I really would like to see the cast transported where I live. It could be fun, I think...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Jul 2018, 13:20
Quote from: Jeph Jacques
Don't think we don't see you, Roko
Dude, YOU PUT HER IN THE FOREGROUND!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: St.Clair on 04 Jul 2018, 15:44
"What, WHAT?  I'm just buying some ordinary, perfectly legal baked goods... THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!"
 :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Jul 2018, 16:01
"What, WHAT?  I'm just buying some ordinary, perfectly legal baked goods... THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!"
 :oops:
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with that. Elliot's right - don't kink-shame.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 04 Jul 2018, 18:59
Comic! I'm surprised Roko was still there,  I'd have expected her to bounce.
Anyone here ever make soda bread? I looked it up in response to this comic and it got me all inspired. Is it more difficult than it sounds?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 Jul 2018, 19:08
What was that about Tenchi Muyo, Marten?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 04 Jul 2018, 19:42
Comic! I'm surprised Roko was still there,  I'd have expected her to bounce.
Anyone here ever make soda bread? I looked it up in response to this comic and it got me all inspired. Is it more difficult than it sounds?

Not really. It's easy to learn how to do it, and just requires a bit of practice to learn how to do it well. It's a great way to introduce children to breadmaking, actually. The main trick is simply to avoid overworking the dough.

I think the interesting thing about soda bread, or quick bread in general, is how different cultures have their own version (damper in Australia).

I can certainly understand how a baker would appreciate the beauty in the simplicity of soda bread.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: brasca on 04 Jul 2018, 21:12
Is the bread fresh out of the oven or is Roko emitting steam again? 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 04 Jul 2018, 21:23
Is the bread fresh out of the oven or is Roko emitting steam again?
Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Jul 2018, 23:21
Wow! Panels 1 and 2 are super 'Awkward Zone', aren't they? This is the thing about Elliot and Clinton's relationship right now: They're both hyper-aware that their feelings are ambiguous and neither of them are entirely sure what ground is forbidden to tread upon. This leads to this 'small-talk tap-dance' where they're trying to remain casual without seeming to appear evasive. It isn't a comfortable thing to observe or to experience.

Clinton has learned a critical lesson in today's strip, though: It's a mistake to falsely claim to know all about your friends' interests when you don't. There is nothing insulting or wrong about saying: "No, I don't know what that is. Could you explain that to me?" Elliot is nice enough to assume Clinton is being witty but someone else might have felt that they were being patronised or even insulted in panel 4.

Poor Roko though! She needs to get out of there or at least be distracted before her heat exchangers break down under the stress she's putting them under!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Jul 2018, 23:22
Re: Elliot/Clinton

Getting to knooooooooooooooooooowww youuuuuuuuuuu....
Getting to know aaaaalll abouuuuuuuut youuuuuuuuuuuuu.....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 04 Jul 2018, 23:54
Wow! Panels 1 and 2 are super 'Awkward Zone', aren't they? This is the thing about Elliot and Clinton's relationship right now: They're both hyper-aware that their feelings are ambiguous and neither of them are entirely sure what ground is forbidden to tread upon. This leads to this 'small-talk tap-dance' where they're trying to remain casual without seeming to appear evasive. It isn't a comfortable thing to observe or to experience.

Both of them?
I mean Elliot having a crush on Clinton has been made rather obvious, but Clinton doesn't strike me as being romantically interested in Elliot, or guys in general. His (Clintons) awkwardness in todays comic looks more like 'I have no clue what we're talking about', than 'I might have feelings for you' to me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jul 2018, 00:07
@Bad Superman,

I think it's more of a case that Clinton knows that Elliot is bi and knows that he's personally said some flirty things. Because of this, Clinton is hyper-aware of everything he says to Elliot because he's trying not to say anything that could be misconstrued as more flirtation.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Jul 2018, 01:09
Just me who will now use 'what's your favourite kind of bread?' as their go-to awkward silence breaker?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 05 Jul 2018, 01:16
@Bad Superman,

I think it's more of a case that Clinton knows that Elliot is bi and knows that he's personally said some flirty things. Because of this, Clinton is hyper-aware of everything he says to Elliot because he's trying not to say anything that could be misconstrued as more flirtation.

I didn't read this in their interaction at all, just Clinton being all, "We're doing work talk. I should ask him a question relating to what he does! Um...uhhh...IS THIS GOOD THIS IS ALL I GOT I KNOW NOTHING  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Shremedy on 05 Jul 2018, 04:51
I think I've figured out the root of Roko's issue.   She has internally gotten human breeding behavior confused with human breading behavior.     :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 05 Jul 2018, 05:40
I think I've figured out the root of Roko's issue.   She has internally gotten human breeding behavior confused with human breading behavior.     :wink:
so a 0110 0001 instead of a  0110 0101
This is why you use self healing data algorithms as part of your data base
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Jul 2018, 05:55
Just me who will now use 'what's your favourite kind of bread?' as their go-to awkward silence breaker?
If the answer is "Wonder" you should probably call off the date.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 05 Jul 2018, 07:56
so a 0110 0001 instead of a  0110 0101
This is why you use self healing data algorithms as part of your data base
Could be EBCDIC, though, although that's still a one-bit error.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 05 Jul 2018, 08:52
so a 0110 0001 instead of a  0110 0101
This is why you use self healing data algorithms as part of your data base
Could be EBCDIC, though, although that's still a one-bit error.
That would be 81 and 85 instead of 61 and 65, though I doubt the coders would revert to EBCDIC and instead may be using something more exotic like using multi-state memory cells in any system capable of hosting an AI. {The esteemed creator may-or-maynot have gone that far in-depth in their technology designs}
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Jul 2018, 09:24
I think I've figured out the root of Roko's issue.   She has internally gotten human breeding behavior confused with human breading behavior.     :wink:
so a 0110 0001 instead of a  0110 0101
This is why you use self healing data algorithms as part of your data base
There are 10 kinds of people in this world - those who understand binary and those who do not.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Jul 2018, 19:23
Comic’s up.

Never heard it called “feeding the birds” before...

;)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: brasca on 05 Jul 2018, 19:35
That’s some dry bread.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: zisraelsen on 05 Jul 2018, 19:46
This comic makes it slightly less likely that I try to make soda bread.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Jul 2018, 20:04
In case no one looked it up, soda bread is made with baking soda, and is essentially unleavened.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Jul 2018, 20:06
"Don't vent your coolant" -- is what I'll say next time I want someone to calm down.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Rimwolf on 05 Jul 2018, 20:34
In case no one looked it up, soda bread is made with baking soda, and is essentially unleavened.

The baking soda is the leavening agent: it interacts with a mild acid in the dough (lactic acid in buttermilk perhaps) to form bubbles that leaven the bread. It's the same process as with pancake batter.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 05 Jul 2018, 20:50
Don't think we don't see you, Brun.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 05 Jul 2018, 21:56
Just me who will now use 'what's your favourite kind of bread?' as their go-to awkward silence breaker?

Well, I will now.

In case no one looked it up, soda bread is made with baking soda, and is essentially unleavened.

The baking soda is the leavening agent: it interacts with a mild acid in the dough (lactic acid in buttermilk perhaps) to form bubbles that leaven the bread. It's the same process as with pancake batter.

Tip: instead of buying self-raising flour or baking powder, you can buy baking soda and cream of tartar. Use two parts cream of tartar to one part baking soda in place of baking powder in your recipe. If the recipe calls for 1 teaspoon of baking powder, for example, use half a teaspoon of cream of tartar and a quarter teaspoon of baking soda. This will emulate baking powder, which normally also contains one quarter rice flour or something similar.

Why bother? Unless you're using it frequently, baking powder will tend to lose its potency over time. This also allows you to omit the cream of tartar if you want, in the case where there is already acid in the mix (e.g. buttermilk).

To make self-raising flour, make two teaspoons of baking powder per cup of plain/all-purpose flour (1 tsp cream of tartar + 1/2 tsp baking soda).

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Timemaster on 05 Jul 2018, 22:04
Baking soda as leavening agent makes bread quite light and fluffy, but also a bit dry. And it get's old quite fast. Eating it without butter and something on top can be kinda challenging. Soda is better suited for pastries or cakes, IMO. So I'm with Clinton here. 

And I think Roko looks quite nice in her cropped top. Maybe I'm robosexual too?  :-D

TM
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 05 Jul 2018, 23:09
Does Elliot know about Roko's fetish?
("The birds...")
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jul 2018, 23:22
Poor Clinton! I think that we can list 'soda bread' as a negative experience for him. It's nice that he's trying to not make a thing about it but it's pretty clear that it's an important thing for Elliot. Maybe a deal-breaker? Something tells me though that Brun (in her entry for 'Cutie of the Arc', previously dominated by Roko) is more than willing to 'clean up the mess'!

Panel 1 has caught and held my attention though. I can't help but meditate on the irony of Elliot looking at someone and clearly thinking that they're cute when their naive. Is Clinton being naive though, or is he taking Roko's previously-stated claim that she feeds birds in the park as factual because he's polite like that?

Does Elliot know about Roko's fetish?

I don't think that you can say 'he knows'. Renee told him that she thinks Roko has a bread fetish and he took her word for it; I also think that what he's seeing of Roko's behaviour supports that theory.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: traroth on 05 Jul 2018, 23:24
Does Elliot know about Roko's fetish?
("The birds...")

Yes. It's been disclosed by Renée, who claimed to " know the signs".

https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3724
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Gyrre on 05 Jul 2018, 23:39
I've got an old recipe book that includes a coca cola bread.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: hakko504 on 05 Jul 2018, 23:45
Speaking of soda bread, I love the recipe that was given on Australian MasterChef: 1 pack of melted vanilla ice cream. Self raising flour. Mix. Bake.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 06 Jul 2018, 00:59
Interesting idea, because commercial ice cream contains a bunch of additives designed to help give it a nice light texture.

There's also lemonade scones. They've been around awhile.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 Jul 2018, 01:24
This comic makes it slightly less likely that I try to make soda bread.

As someone who has soda bread on a regular basis, its definitely one of those breads that needs a bit of butter. Its dry, needs that moisture from the butter.

But its a tasty bread. Its just carelessness on Elliot's behalf and not having a glass of water on hand, at the very least.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Bad Superman on 06 Jul 2018, 02:47
@ BenRG & traroth

Ah, okay, I forgot that. Thanks for reminding me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 06 Jul 2018, 04:23
Clinton, Clinton, Clinton...  It's part of Irish cuisine.  And if no one has ever warned you, Irish food isn't "Cuisine" per se...  It's a penance.  I mean, c'mon you put everything in a pot for 18 hours and boil it to the point you can eat it with a straw.  (Old Denis Leary Joke)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 06 Jul 2018, 04:53
Yes, I agree with Castlerook. I really wouldn't eat soda bread unadorned. It's a vehicle for butter.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 06 Jul 2018, 05:24
Roko always looks cute.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 06 Jul 2018, 06:31
This comic makes it slightly less likely that I try to make soda bread.

As someone who has soda bread on a regular basis, its definitely one of those breads that needs a bit of butter. Its dry, needs that moisture from the butter.

But its a tasty bread. Its just carelessness on Elliot's behalf and not having a glass of water on hand, at the very least.

Huh... Seems like a flatbread like nan. I bet it is tasty with butter and some kind of sweet jam.

I am surprised Elliot didn't know enough to show Clinton the proper way to eat it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BlueFatima on 06 Jul 2018, 06:43
Roko always looks cute.

I think she and Clinton would be adorable together, but if it went down before a year or two I'd be surprised as we just got Faybles. Then again, who knows? All the "tension" is fun either way. :)

I think Elliot is super cute, too. Big guy needs a hug...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 06 Jul 2018, 09:02
Roko always looks cute.

I think she and Clinton would be adorable together, but if it went down before a year or two I'd be surprised as we just got Faybles. Then again, who knows? All the "tension" is fun either way. :)
There's LOTS of plot fodder in cop-with-non-cop-SO, especially if the participants aren't acknowledging how significant the other is to them.  Add to the mix that the traditional gender roles would be reversed with Roko and Clinton.  They could Friend Zone each other for a couple years or more before the "What the Hell, Faye and Bubbs are doin' it!" moment strikes and they both shout with one voice, "Bring on the pumpernickel!!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: JimC on 06 Jul 2018, 14:09
"The grocer told me what you do with bread" anyone else remembering that one...

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There was a time when I was really broke after my house burnt down and I was sofa surfing for a few weeks that I more or less lived on soda bread made in the microwave.  One advantage is that you can do small quantities so I was having it fresh for every meal. I'd managed to salvage my box of cooking stuff so I at least had cinnamon and things to ring the changes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 06 Jul 2018, 18:29
I can't see Clinton being down with rubbing bread on Roko's butt.

I really don't understand why that turns her on...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Thrudd on 06 Jul 2018, 18:34
I finally put two and two or in this case baking powder and flour together and got Banok - a staple if wilderness camping in scouting - just wrap it around a stick and roast it over the fire then smother in marmalade or mix fresh picked berries in the dough then smother in maple syrup after roasting. Now I'm hungry again.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Jul 2018, 23:29
I can't see Clinton being down with rubbing bread on Roko's butt.

I really don't understand why that turns her on...

The leading theories, at least for me are:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: brasca on 07 Jul 2018, 00:23
I think it’s 2.  Bubbles isn’t embarrassed about her affinity for sniffing tea so I don’t know why Roko would have a problem with bread sniffing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 07 Jul 2018, 05:22
Tea sniffing is as normal as drinking tea. Roko is embarrassed about the bread thing because it's not "normal." Melon was like "I don't really understand why it's sexy," which probably made Roko feel even more awkward about it. At least she's open with one friend about it. Renee, unfortunately, has a big mouth, so Roko may end up sharing with more people than she expected.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: specter177 on 07 Jul 2018, 05:36
I think it’s 2.  Bubbles isn’t embarrassed about her affinity for sniffing tea so I don’t know why Roko would have a problem with bread sniffing.

Yeah, didn't previous comics say it was specifically about rubbing bread on her body?

EDIT:
Specifically, 3694 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3694) (where it's implied Roko chose Pintsize because of his profile), and 3711 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3711) (where it's pretty much explicitly stated she likes that).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 07 Jul 2018, 05:52
If it does happen to be #1, then I've gotta say that I have no trouble at all understanding what it does for her.

Freshly baked bread. Mmm. Sorry, I just need a moment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 07 Jul 2018, 05:54
But rubbing it on your bottom?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 Jul 2018, 07:21
Tea sniffing is as normal as drinking tea. Roko is embarrassed about the bread thing because it's not "normal." Melon was like "I don't really understand why it's sexy," which probably made Roko feel even more awkward about it. At least she's open with one friend about it. Renee, unfortunately, has a big mouth, so Roko may end up sharing with more people than she expected.

Keep in mind that tea sniffing produces different results in different people.

Roko's embarrassment isn't about enjoying bread, it's about anything that turns her on (including Assam tea, which appears to specifically invoke sexually appealing hallucinations in AIs and Emily (see 3427 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3427), 3570 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3570), 3575 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3575) for examples involving Roko, and 3556 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3556) for Bubbles being under the influence)).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: sitnspin on 07 Jul 2018, 07:52
Kinks are often incomprehensible to those that don't share them. Sapient minds are weird and do all kinds of things that don't make sense. I'm into things others aren't. And plenty of people are into things I don't understand. We like what we like.

As for Clinton, you don't have to be into what your partner is in order to do it for them. Sometimes it's enough just knowing that you are pleasing them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 07 Jul 2018, 07:58
Keep in mind that tea sniffing produces different results in different people.

Roko's embarrassment isn't about enjoying bread, it's about anything that turns her on (including Assam tea, which appears to specifically invoke sexually appealing hallucinations in AIs and Emily (see 3427 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3427), 3570 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3570), 3575 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3575) for examples involving Roko, and 3556 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3556) for Bubbles being under the influence)).
Bubbles' experience was in a guest strip so its canonicity is debatable.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 07 Jul 2018, 08:01
Kinks are often incomprehensible to those that don't share them. Sapient minds are weird and do all kinds of things that don't make sense. I'm into things others aren't. And plenty of people are into things I don't understand. We like what we like.
Like Elliot said, don't kinkshame.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 Jul 2018, 08:39
Bubbles' experience was in a guest strip so its canonicity is debatable.

True, but it's the strip that established Assam as the tea that induces uniporn hallucinations, and subsequent strips treated it as if it happened.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 07 Jul 2018, 08:57
Bubbles' experience was in a guest strip so its canonicity is debatable.

True, but it's the strip that established Assam as the tea that induces uniporn hallucinations, and subsequent strips treated it as if it happened.
3427 < 3556
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 Jul 2018, 09:00
What I'm getting at is that 3570 and 3575 elevated 3556's use of Assam (if not Bubbles's experience with it) to canon, basically saying that 3556 was correct about the type of tea in 3427.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: SmilingCat on 07 Jul 2018, 21:07
But rubbing it on your bottom?

She's a robot. A lot of human kinks would probably look ridiculous to an outsider.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: OldGoat on 07 Jul 2018, 23:06
She's a robot. A lot of human kinks would probably look ridiculous to an outsider.
Hell, even common human kinks look ridiculous to other humans who don't share them. 

Nearly everyone is easier to get along with after they've had gratifying sex.  As long as all the participants are of lawful age and competent to give consent, let 'em have at it - the world will be a far mellower place.  That's why I consider it urgent for Jeph the Creator to let poor Roko get magnificently laid.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: fayelovesbubbles on 08 Jul 2018, 16:41
Bubbles never had any pervy hallucinations...Danielle Corsetto’s telling is not canon!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jul 2018, 20:25
I wonder if there are charities which place companion AIs equipped with social protocol databases with people like Brun.

We don't know what's going on with her of course but if it's medical then someone with an SPD would be like a seeing eye dog.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jul 2018, 23:54
The camera pans across the bedroom floor, littered with a few torn off ends of loaves and crumbs everywhere.  Roko comes into view in a cloud of coolant, panting, as Elliot leans across and whispers into her ear, "...and I have some soda bread..."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Tova on 09 Jul 2018, 00:54
I wonder if there are charities which place companion AIs equipped with social protocol databases with people like Brun.

We don't know what's going on with her of course but if it's medical then someone with an SPD would be like a seeing eye dog.

I don't know, but that would be a terrific future storyline. I don't think we've yet seen a human and companion AI introduction in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: cybersmurf on 09 Jul 2018, 01:57
Bubbles never had any pervy hallucinations...Danielle Corsetto’s telling is not canon!

Bubs has no need for pervy hallucinations right now  :-o :-D :-P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jul 2018, 07:28
I wonder if there are charities which place companion AIs equipped with social protocol databases with people like Brun.

We don't know what's going on with her of course but if it's medical then someone with an SPD would be like a seeing eye dog.

I don't know, but that would be a terrific future storyline. I don't think we've yet seen a human and companion AI introduction in the comic.

Unless you count the flashback to Marten visiting the agency and getting Pintsize, everyone with a companion already had one when introduced to us.

The early stages of a companionship contract could really be interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Theta9 on 09 Jul 2018, 07:33
Unless you count the flashback to Marten visiting the agency and getting Pintsize, everyone with a companion already had one when introduced to us.

May and Dale?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: specter177 on 09 Jul 2018, 10:07
Unless you count the flashback to Marten visiting the agency and getting Pintsize, everyone with a companion already had one when introduced to us.

May and Dale?

Wasn't really the same thing, since it was understood to be just a temporary trial, not a potentially permanent one like Marten-Pintsive or Marigold-Momo. And they weren't exactly "matched."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Jakk Frost on 09 Jul 2018, 12:16
Poor Elliot.  It's a good thing we don't live in a culture where anyone could take the slightest offense at the harmless things he's saying, and get him fired and the business shut down!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jul 2018, 14:45
Unless you count the flashback to Marten visiting the agency and getting Pintsize, everyone with a companion already had one when introduced to us.

May and Dale?

But May doesn't seem to think of herself as a companion AI.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3776 - 3780 (2nd to 6th July 2018)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 09 Jul 2018, 19:37
Brün sneaking the soda bread is one of my favorite QC moments ever.