Fighter jet conversions. For humans.
They could subcontract Pintsize and Winslow for that.Fighter jet conversions. For humans.
And Roombas.
A dremel for smoothing a ball joint? Maybe it's just me, but using a dremel for that would be more complicated than using a disk sander.
Faye is sharing her vices with a minor.She really should be sharing her vises.
A dremel for smoothing a ball joint? Maybe it's just me, but using a dremel for that would be more complicated than using a disk sander.
Now I'm wondering whose shoulder that ball joint was taken from...
When they were handing out common sense, Sam was out chasing a snake or something.
Honestly, I'm more surprised that Sam still has all her fingers.
when they know they have the intrinsic skill and ability to use the most complicated tools and technology on their first attempt!
Yes, I was a little surprised to see "vice". That is how I spell the word of course, but I thought the USAnian spelling was "vise".Faye is sharing her vices with a minor.She really should be sharing her vises.
Yes, I was a little surprised to see "vice". That is how I spell the word of course, but I thought the USAnian spelling was "vise".Faye is sharing her vices with a minor.She really should be sharing her vises.
Let's try this rule: never, ever, touch the business-end of a power tool with any of your body parts. Especially if the power tool is in use.
Let's try this rule: never, ever, touch the business-end of a power tool with any of your body parts. Especially if the power tool is in use.
Kinda closing the barn door after the horse has bolted, there.
Granted, it's been a while since I spent much time around kids, but that sounds like something a six-year-old would do, not an otherwise bright (?) teenager.
You start life with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The goal is to try to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck runs out.
Granted, it's been a while since I spent much time around kids, but that sounds like something a six-year-old would do, not an otherwise bright (?) teenager.
Some kids get dumber as they get older. Sam is one of those because she's getting more confident while staying just as curious. Caution is learned by doing stupid things and getting punished for them. Especially dumb teenagers result from a short lifetime of stupidity without consequence.
You start life with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The goal is to try to fill the bag of experience before the bag of luck runs out.
Sam gets frigging sword fighting classes. You might expect her to be aware of the dangers of ... tools, not even powered ones.
"Other Wonders Not Mentioned Here!":Pretty much. I mean, Sam's not dumb but overconfident and she hasn't felt the consequences of her actions yet. So, maybe that's a start? And Faye should stop indulging her - Sam's not an apprentice, she's not insured and Faye can be held responsible for stuff that goes on in her shop. Sam's still a child in many ways and should be treated as such.
Upon Winslow's return, he sets up an on-site Robot Counselling Service...
...And regarding today's strip:
Knowing Sam as we do - did anyone else see an incident like this as being totally freaking inevitable?! :roll:
Poor Sam. Ripping off a fingernail doesn't even leave any nifty scars to show off.
If Jim forbids Sam from working at Union Robotics because of this, he'll be making a mistake. Forbidding your kid to practice a marketable skill she's passionate about because of a superficial injury is cowardly. If my parents had done so the first time I needed stitches, I wouldn't be studying mechanical engineering right now.
When they were handing out common sense, Sam was out chasing a snake or something.
Honestly, I'm more surprised that Sam still has all her fingers.
Poor Sam. Ripping off a fingernail doesn't even leave any nifty scars to show off.
If Jim forbids Sam from working at Union Robotics because of this, he'll be making a mistake. Forbidding your kid to practice a marketable skill she's passionate about because of a superficial injury is cowardly. If my parents had done so the first time I needed stitches, I wouldn't be studying mechanical engineering right now.
Yes, I was a little surprised to see "vice". That is how I spell the word of course, but I thought the USAnian spelling was "vise".Faye is sharing her vices with a minor.She really should be sharing her vises.
I'm sure the vanishing cable is just a slip on the artist's part.
Poor Sam. Ripping off a fingernail doesn't even leave any nifty scars to show off.
If Jim forbids Sam from working at Union Robotics because of this, he'll be making a mistake. Forbidding your kid to practice a marketable skill she's passionate about because of a superficial injury is cowardly. If my parents had done so the first time I needed stitches, I wouldn't be studying mechanical engineering right now.
I do get the impression that although it would be excruciatingly nerve-wracking, the way Sam needs to be raised is the calculated risk approach.
The worst part of all this is Corpse Witch was right.
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Poor Sam. Ripping off a fingernail doesn't even leave any nifty scars to show off.
If Jim forbids Sam from working at Union Robotics because of this, he'll be making a mistake. Forbidding your kid to practice a marketable skill she's passionate about because of a superficial injury is cowardly. If my parents had done so the first time I needed stitches, I wouldn't be studying mechanical engineering right now.
I do get the impression that although it would be excruciatingly nerve-wracking, the way Sam needs to be raised is the calculated risk approach.
Calculated risk and damage control.The worst part of all this is Corpse Witch was right.Help me out a little... I can't remember context
This... is pretty much game over, no?
Sam is underage, unsupervised, untrained, was given the tool by Faye with insufficient instruction and the consequence is a major trauma, possibly life-changing injury if the wound becomes infected.
The shop needs to be closed down, and Faye needs to face criminal proceedings and fines at the very least. Jim'll almost certainly bring a civil action case against her too.
And to cap it all off, she's dragged Bubbles into this because she's joint partner and shares liability.
God dammit! I mean it's realistic but I was hoping for more romantic shenanigans not another chapter of "Watch Faye's life disintegrate".
I think we're being kinda rough on Faye here. After all, the little larva was able to learn to use a blowtorch (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2176/)and sharpen knives and make a sword (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2463/)without maiming herself. It seems reasonable she'd be able to use a dremel.
I think we're being kinda rough on Faye here. After all, the little larva was able to learn to use a blowtorch (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2176/)and sharpen knives and make a sword (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2463/)without maiming herself. It seems reasonable she'd be able to use a dremel.
I think we're being kinda rough on Faye here. After all, the little larva was able to learn to use a blowtorch (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2176/)and sharpen knives and make a sword (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2463/)without maiming herself. It seems reasonable she'd be able to use a dremel.
That maybe but Faye is, whether she likes it or not, In Loco Parentis of Sam so its on her to make sure Sam doesn't hurt herself
However those links did show that Faye has been indulging Sam for quite a while now
I think we're being kinda rough on Faye here. After all, the little larva was able to learn to use a blowtorch (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2176/)and sharpen knives and make a sword (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2463/)without maiming herself. It seems reasonable she'd be able to use a dremel.
..assume..In before someone mentions "When you assume you make an ass out of u and me. "
Bubbles is showing Leadership Qualities again. I wonder what her rank was.
Now personally if I were Jim, I'd look at Sam with her aching bandaged finger and ask "And what did we learn today?" If her answer was something along the lines of "Don't stick your finger in a power tool's moving parts." then I'd let her go back to the shop. Otherwise, I'd forbid it on the grounds of her being too likely to Darwin herself into an early grave.
The fact remains that Faye ended up giving Sam barely even the bare minimum of protection. At the very least, Sam should have been wearing work gloves.
Jim's business involves industrial mixers that can break an arm - a boobooed fingernail isn't going to look all that impressive to him.
Sam gets frigging sword fighting classes. You might expect her to be aware of the dangers of ... tools, not even powered ones.
But still, technically, she has all her fingers. Nobody said anything about missing fingernails. And think about the crap her classmates will give her for losing a fingernail to a power tool. Yes, kids are that cruel.
Jim's business involves industrial mixers that can break an arm - a boobooed fingernail isn't going to look all that impressive to him.
It's different when it's your kid. My wife was training to be a PA and had done an ER tour, seeing the working end of several bloody messes. When our 3 year old daughter bonked her head and it was bleeding, I held her for a bit to calm her before bandaging it up. My wife came home and saw the blood on the shoulder of my shirt after I'd told her about it, and she nearly puked.
Losing a fingernail in a workshop is pretty much part of the basic training program, I would say.
Weather it is by hitting yourself with a hammer, or trying something like trimming your nails on a grinder does not matter much. Some things you learn from what other tell you, and some things you just need to experience. Fingernails grow back, split fingertips heal, splinters can be dug out. Just don't lose an eye!
The issue is that Faye simply didn't imagine that she needed to ask someone to watch Sam whilst she was not doing so.
I don't know how old she is, but I can't imagine she's 15. She shouldn't have been left to operate a piece of equipment unsupervised.She was 14 about 600 comics ago (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3161) so she may be 15 now.
Bubbles is showing Leadership Qualities again. I wonder what her rank was.
It occurs to me to wonder why Faye didn't ask Bubbles to keep an eye on Sam while she took her bathroom break. Bubbles can't have been too far away. (Granted, she may have been otherwise occupied.)
I'm frankly surprised how many people are freaking out that Faye took her eyes off of Sam for a second. A) She's proven herself a capable worker when handling dangerous tools. B) It is unreasonable to assume that an apprentice should be under 100% supervision at all times while working. C) We now know that Sam made a conscious choice to do a dumb thing in a manner that Faye hasn't seen before (i.e. the willingness to knowingly put her body at risk, not just accidentally)
I think back to shop class, and working in my parents shop, and Appalachia Service Project (think Habitat for Humanity with church kids), etc. and how many times I was unsupervised with power tools. I was also an accident-prone kid. I once severed the tendon in my thumb with a Leatherman knife because I was trying to cut cable ties with it, a knife my grandfather had given me, and it slipped. My parents never blamed anyone but me for the damage (and rightly so). I had handled knives before, even did a report on knife safety, so it was a conscious level of stupidity, similar to Sam trying to trim her nails with a dremel.
Nails grow back, Jim may freak out a little and it'll cause drama, but it's not enough to shut a company down. Maaaaybe small claims court for the medical costs of a box of band-aides, and a small consideration for emotional trauma, if he really wanted to be a hard-ass about it. I can't even imagine a way (short of infection) for Sam to lose a finger with a grinding bit. It would take a while to abrade your finger off. Plus, Sam has clearly learned that she is, in fact, destructible. I'd say that a grounding from the shop for a while (I like the extension due to considering lying to her dad) coming from both sides (Faye and Jim) should do enough for the lesson to sink in.
My kiddo's 9, and I can't imagine suing anyone over her losing a nail. I may not trust her to alone again with that person at her current age, but if she was a young teenager I may actually chalk it more up as a life lesson than blame the adult in charge. Kids cannot be bubble wrapped forever...
One thing we do agree on is that it is impossible to keep your kid safe at all times, but there is definitely a middle ground between bubblewrap and not being left in a position where you could have done permanent damage.
and I am frankly baffled that I'm the only person so far arguing in against leaving literal children unsupervised with power tools simply because you guys managed to lose just a nail, rather than a finger or a hand, and presumably your tendon repaired itself, rather than costing you sensation or dexterity in that hand.
The thing that strikes me most strongly in response to today's strip is Sam's reaction to the idea of Jim banning her from seeing Faye. It occurs to me that we've never seen Sam with friends of her own age, only with adults (although, in Faye's case, an adult who can act Sam's age if she wants to). I'm beginning to wonder if Faye is Sam's only close friend and that is the only reason she keeps turning up. That's something that I think Jim needs to start thinking about because, combined with her preference for 'independent learning' it might indicate that she is having pretty serious problems at school.
This is a forum where attitudes and opinions are frequently challenged, and I am frankly baffled that I'm the only person so far arguing in against leaving literal children unsupervised with power tools simply because you guys managed to lose just a nail, rather than a finger or a hand, and presumably your tendon repaired itself, rather than costing you sensation or dexterity in that hand.
I am frankly baffled that I'm the only person so far arguing in against leaving literal children unsupervised with power tools
The point here is not 'when I was a kid I was left unsupervised and didn't die, nowadays kids need to be wrapped in bubblewrap.' The point here is that you were lucky. And 99.9% of people are lucky. And 0.1% of people are the 14 year old kid, left unsupervised by a 'responsible' adult, be that a teacher, a friend, or a parent, who does get fucking killed by one of these contraptions.
Jim's business involves industrial mixers that can break an arm - a boobooed fingernail isn't going to look all that impressive to him.
It's different when it's your kid. My wife was training to be a PA and had done an ER tour, seeing the working end of several bloody messes. When our 3 year old daughter bonked her head and it was bleeding, I held her for a bit to calm her before bandaging it up. My wife came home and saw the blood on the shoulder of my shirt after I'd told her about it, and she nearly puked.
I assume your daughter is your first? I promise you that by the time she's Sam's age, most things upsetting, gross and horrifying will have desensitized you and your wife. If you have more kids or spend time around a number of her friends (which can happen more when you have an only), all the more so. I remember freaking out and taking my kid to the hospital a black eye at 2 (it was scary swelling up so fast). Now, when she injures herself like that, it's like "Again?" And it's a list of check the injury, ice, ibuprofen, etc... Meanwhile, I get a few more grey hairs. :lol:
My kiddo's 9, and I can't imagine suing anyone over her losing a nail. I may not trust her to alone again with that person at her current age, but if she was a young teenager I may actually chalk it more up as a life lesson than blame the adult in charge. Kids cannot be bubble wrapped forever. I've nicked myself with Dremel before, and I managed to slice off the tip of my index finger through the nail twice with an Xacto knife. Those kinds are injuries happen all the time.
Sam, however, does have impulse issues a little greater than other kids her age. I do agree with everyone that Faye should never have left her alone. She should have asked Bubbles to watch Sam until she was done in the bathroom. Close supervision is a given with any beginners who use power tools (even sewing machines) for the first time. Sam also probably should have had gloves on (though I find them cumbersome for something as little as a Dremel).
I am frankly baffled that I'm the only person so far arguing in against leaving literal children unsupervised with power tools
We've seen this side to Bubbles before, specifically when she counselled Winslow about how best to deal with May but the politics sort of obscured what Jeph was really saying. What he was saying is that Bubbles does have a strong nurturing and parental side to her. Faye's approach is different but she's just as good with kids in her own way (specifically in directing their play so that dangerous instincts are controlled).
I know this might sound weird but is Jeph taking this in the direction of Faye and Bubbles ultimately adopting a child? Or at least telling us that this is something that they could do and make it work?
Note: I am pretty passionate about this particular topic, and many topics, and realise this can come across as aggression. I just really, really love discussion, and challenging my own attitudes through talking to people I disagree with. None of the below is intended aggressively, I'm just enthusiastic to discuss it, all is in good faith!
How many of the people here referring to what is and isn't good parenting are parents themselves, or have ever been responsible for the care of teenagers?
I don't think you understand how negligence works in this context, or at the very least, how the law tends to say it works, regardless of whether you share the law's opinion.
The point here is not 'when I was a kid I was left unsupervised and didn't die, nowadays kids need to be wrapped in bubblewrap.' The point here is that you were lucky. And 99.9% of people are lucky. And 0.1% of people are the 14 year old kid, left unsupervised by a 'responsible' adult, be that a teacher, a friend, or a parent, who does get fucking killed by one of these contraptions. That is what the law is there to prevent, because not a single one of those should ever happen.
One thing we do agree on is that it is impossible to keep your kid safe at all times, but there is definitely a middle ground between bubblewrap and not being left in a position where you could have done permanent damage.
This is a forum where attitudes and opinions are frequently challenged, and I am frankly baffled that I'm the only person so far arguing in against leaving literal children unsupervised with power tools simply because you guys managed to lose just a nail, rather than a finger or a hand, and presumably your tendon repaired itself, rather than costing you sensation or dexterity in that hand.
Note: I am pretty passionate about this particular topic, and many topics, and realise this can come across as aggression. I just really, really love discussion, and challenging my own attitudes through talking to people I disagree with. None of the below is intended aggressively, I'm just enthusiastic to discuss it, all is in good faith!
I'm quite surprised by the extend of some of the reactions here. Suing someone for this?Unfortunately, we USAians are an increasingly litigious society and some of our more dubious practices are attorney driven. (I work for lawyers - some are the most ethical people you will ever meet, but others, well, not so much.) In addition, we have fifty separate state court systems plus the Federal government and the territories, each with its own twist on rules of evidence and so on. That makes for plenty of opportunities for court shopping, looking for a venue that tends to return large judgements on certain sorts of cases.
In my European country (the Netherlands) that would be unheard of.
Someone earlier mentioned gloves -- you NEVER wear gloves around rotating machinery.
Strange that Jim wouldn’t have a stronger gag reflex working around food. Mold and vermin go with the territory.
Some people can handle food grossness, but get queasy at any sort of bodily harm.
Panel 5: The moment that Jim remembers just how difficult it is to supervise Sam.
Positive point of view: Taking responsiblity is a real sign of growth
Negative point of view: Nice reverse psychology manipulation, Sam!
Positive point of view: Taking responsiblity is a real sign of growth
Negative point of view: Nice reverse psychology manipulation, Sam!
Strange that Jim wouldn’t have a stronger gag reflex working around food. Mold and vermin go with the territory.Well I worked in the food trade for several years in my youth, and don't ever remember seeing mould or vermin.
Strange that Jim wouldn’t have a stronger gag reflex working around food. Mold and vermin go with the territory.
Strange that Jim wouldn’t have a stronger gag reflex working around food. Mold and vermin go with the territory.
Or just being a parent—especially of a child like Sam who is bound to have had many childhood injuries.
I'm actually guessing a lot of these statements have a huge cultural influence in-bedded in them.
I'm quite surprised by the extend of some of the reactions here. Suing someone for this?
In my European country (the Netherlands) that would be unheard of.
There is a large believe in "don't be stupid". And this level of supervision is in general seen as adequate.
Moreover, similar treatments are standard in our education system.
Although i did a mostly academic oriented education, we had quite some basic wood/acrylic work in school; handling of hammers, basic sawing use etc was handled at 10-11. We had some basic training in using machine saws and drills at 14-15 with similar instruction level STANDARD.
Was I the only one who read Sam's dad in the third panel in Hank Hill's voice?
I tell you hwat!
Was I the only one who read Sam's dad in the third panel in Hank Hill's voice?
I tell you hwat!
"Dangit Sam! That girl ain't right..."