Yeah, I saw that on Patreon. I don't think Jeph did.
And is it just me, or does it seem Veronica has aged quite a bit? Maybe being in the same house as Sam has done it?
Grin, Jim is a struggling a bit to keep up with Sam growing up. Time to bring out the dad-jokes as a counter measure!
And is it just me, or does it seem Veronica has aged quite a bit? Maybe being in the same house as Sam has done it?
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude.
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude. Hope that isn't a sign of rockier troubles...
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude. Hope that isn't a sign of rockier troubles...sed.Nope, it means they really are a couple and indeed a family.
It seems like only in this comment do the smallest actions evoke the strongest of consequences lolYou said I could relax, so I relaxed! (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=987)
Faye looks away from Sam for 2 seconds? "JIm will sue her and she'll lose her license and go to jail!!"
Marten's Mom calls Jim a twit?" SIGN OF THE RELATIONSHIP ENDIIING
Erryone take a deep breath and relaxxxxxx
Also -insert comment about Jims missing glasses-
It seems like only in this comment do the smallest actions evoke the strongest of consequences lolWell I don't really expect Jim to sue Faye, and I'd be pretty pissed if he ruined her, but she did severely drop the ball and doesn't really have much room for anything except contrition. Sam was incredibly dumb to do that, but she's still a kid, so the responsibility is with the supervisor to ensure safety.
Faye looks away from Sam for 2 seconds? "JIm will sue her and she'll lose her license and go to jail!!"
Marten's Mom calls Jim a twit?" SIGN OF THE RELATIONSHIP ENDIIING
Erryone take a deep breath and relaxxxxxx
Also -insert comment about Jims missing glasses-
It's not so much the level of insult, but that there's any insult at all...Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude. Hope that isn't a sign of rockier troubles...
I think its just banter between two people in a relationship. I mean, of all the things Veronica could have called him, twit barely even rates as that much of an insult.
It's not so much the level of insult, but that there's any insult at all...Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude. Hope that isn't a sign of rockier troubles...
I think its just banter between two people in a relationship. I mean, of all the things Veronica could have called him, twit barely even rates as that much of an insult.
Iunno, the situation doesn't seem all that jocular to me? Guess I'll defer though
Of course there could be the possibility she's simply in Dominatrix mode and this all could be be pre-consented foreplay. :)Good point.
It seems like only in this comment do the smallest actions evoke the strongest of consequences lolYou said I could relax, so I relaxed! (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=987)
Faye looks away from Sam for 2 seconds? "JIm will sue her and she'll lose her license and go to jail!!"
Marten's Mom calls Jim a twit?" SIGN OF THE RELATIONSHIP ENDIIING
Erryone take a deep breath and relaxxxxxx
Also -insert comment about Jims missing glasses-
Marten's Mom calls Jim a twit?" SIGN OF THE RELATIONSHIP ENDIIING
This happened on her watch, ...
This happened on her watch, ...
Should it have been her watch, though? Sam, once again, was out on her own, without Jim knowing where she was. It's easy not to take your responsibility, and blame the ones that do take it up.
Jim's overreacting here. Sam is at least 14, probably 15. At school we were using electric sanders by that age, and while the class would be supervised that's 1 teacher and occasionally 1 assistant for 25 kids, using various tools once we'd been trained on them. Should Faye have gone to the bathroom leaving her unsupervised? No, especially not the first time using the tool, but the vast majority of kids wouldn't do what Sam did. I mean, In many ages past that's an adult, in many countries right now that's an adult.
Sam got a better level of personal supervision than she'd get in almost any other environment. And Jim should recognise that and be grateful that an adult is trying to teach his kid practical skills. Sam's the one who messed up and broke Faye's trust.
You can't completely wrap up kids or protect them from every danger. Not if you want them to learn those skills and independence.
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with.
Jim's overreacting here. Sam is at least 14, probably 15. At school we were using electric sanders by that age, and while the class would be supervised that's 1 teacher and occasionally 1 assistant for 25 kids, using various tools once we'd been trained on them. Should Faye have gone to the bathroom leaving her unsupervised? No, especially not the first time using the tool, but the vast majority of kids wouldn't do what Sam did. I mean, In many ages past that's an adult, in many countries right now that's an adult.
Sam got a better level of personal supervision than she'd get in almost any other environment. And Jim should recognise that and be grateful that an adult is trying to teach his kid practical skills. Sam's the one who messed up and broke Faye's trust.
You can't completely wrap up kids or protect them from every danger. Not if you want them to learn those skills and independence.
I would like to second this. As stated before, I have also used these tools in school at this age, and I'm a bit annoyed with how much blame is put on Faye for this.
Although I think, a lot of parents would overreact a bit here, so I can cut Jim 'some' slack for being quite rude.
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with. She's been more thoughtful and careful than most of my teacher's have been, *and* she's even apologizing.
But maybe that's a European/American cultural difference here.
I've said before that Sam is a smart kid. She just isn't that wise.
Considering how things could’ve gone with anyone else Faye is getting off easy. Bubbles is a good influence on Sam, but a great influence on Faye.
Being smart doesn't award having common sense.FULL STOP - Apply maximum braking power
This happened on her watch, ...
Should it have been her watch, though? Sam, once again, was out on her own, without Jim knowing where she was. It's easy not to take your responsibility, and blame the ones that do take it up.
Jim's overreacting here. Sam is at least 14, probably 15. At school we were using electric sanders by that age, and while the class would be supervised that's 1 teacher and occasionally 1 assistant for 25 kids, using various tools once we'd been trained on them. Should Faye have gone to the bathroom leaving her unsupervised? No, especially not the first time using the tool, but the vast majority of kids wouldn't do what Sam did. I mean, In many ages past that's an adult, in many countries right now that's an adult.
Sam got a better level of personal supervision than she'd get in almost any other environment. And Jim should recognise that and be grateful that an adult is trying to teach his kid practical skills. Sam's the one who messed up and broke Faye's trust.
You can't completely wrap up kids or protect them from every danger. Not if you want them to learn those skills and independence.
I would like to second this. As stated before, I have also used these tools in school at this age, and I'm a bit annoyed with how much blame is put on Faye for this.
Although I think, a lot of parents would overreact a bit here, so I can cut Jim 'some' slack for being quite rude.
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with. She's been more thoughtful and careful than most of my teacher's have been, *and* she's even apologizing.
But maybe that's a European/American cultural difference here.
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with.
I have to agree with this. Jeph seems to have started from the base concept of "Sam gets hurt because Faye is careless" and written backwards from there. That isn't a bad way to create narrative but, in this particular case, he doesn't seem to have been quite able to tell the story smoothly. It has the same feeling of being forced and awkward that I got from the Tilly & Hanners arc around the new year.
What makes reading these strips really strange is that even the characters seem to be aware that the plot is a bit forced. They're awkward in delivering their lines and keep on pausing at weird points as if they're saying in their heads: "Who the hell wrote this script?"
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with.
I have to agree with this. Jeph seems to have started from the base concept of "Sam gets hurt because Faye is careless" and written backwards from there. That isn't a bad way to create narrative but, in this particular case, he doesn't seem to have been quite able to tell the story smoothly. It has the same feeling of being forced and awkward that I got from the Tilly & Hanners arc around the new year.
What makes reading these strips really strange is that even the characters seem to be aware that the plot is a bit forced. They're awkward in delivering their lines and keep on pausing at weird points as if they're saying in their heads: "Who the hell wrote this script?"
Ben, is is the plot or the dialog you're objecting to?
But my more general problem, is that I feel that the comic story line itself seems to acknowledge it as strong 'carelessness' from Faye, which I feel uncomfortable with.
I have to agree with this. Jeph seems to have started from the base concept of "Sam gets hurt because Faye is careless" and written backwards from there. That isn't a bad way to create narrative but, in this particular case, he doesn't seem to have been quite able to tell the story smoothly. It has the same feeling of being forced and awkward that I got from the Tilly & Hanners arc around the new year.
What makes reading these strips really strange is that even the characters seem to be aware that the plot is a bit forced. They're awkward in delivering their lines and keep on pausing at weird points as if they're saying in their heads: "Who the hell wrote this script?"
Ben, is is the plot or the dialog you're objecting to?
'Cause to me what happened is the natural result of the ingredients reacting with each other. Faye offering Sam a development opportunity, Sam doing something reckless in a workshop -- surprising it hasn't happened before! Jim's reacting like a parent whose kid got injured.
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude.
Women can say anything they want in this strip. If a man talked to a woman that way on QC, the Hannelore fangirls would burn down the entire internet.
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude.
Women can say anything they want in this strip. If a man talked to a woman that way on QC, the Hannelore fangirls would burn down the entire internet.
Climbing a mountain. Climbing a mountain lion.
I think you have to power up a laser; that makes it a de facto power tool.
Everyone who has their own experience with using power tools, ask yourself this. Before you got to use them, how many times did you watch someone else use them? Were you told how to use it? What kick to expect from a drill? Maybe the right way to hold and use a heatgun? Because I bet, every single parent or adult figure teaching you made sure that the first time you used something wouldn't be your last.If Dad said, "Be careful with that," I heard, "That thing can maim you."
Jim’s treatment of Faye is out of line.
Caveat for this post: I’m not yet a parent (though I hope to be someday)
Jim’s treatment of Faye is out of line.
Can't believe she just straight-up calls him a twit O_o That's awfully rude.
Women can say anything they want in this strip. If a man talked to a woman that way on QC, the Hannelore fangirls would burn down the entire internet.
Climbing a mountain. Climbing a mountain lion.
Happens all the time around here...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D79Dhk0obyg/ToSxxzjzfRI/AAAAAAAAB4E/azeuqwY1Qyc/s1600/DSC04612.JPG)
Switch the genders, and just imagine the firestorm.
I thought it was a Puma. ..... It's not a Puma! :clairedoge:I cannot, in good conscience, like that photo, considering that it is a Nittany Lion.Climbing a mountain. Climbing a mountain lion.Happens all the time around here...
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D79Dhk0obyg/ToSxxzjzfRI/AAAAAAAAB4E/azeuqwY1Qyc/s1600/DSC04612.JPG)
(In a way, I kinda blame Jeph for making the 'accident' too easy. Ripping off a fingernail with a dremel would, I imagine, cause far more pain and distress than Sam showed... Which might explain the little backlash against Jim.Actually, Jeph chose the wrong tool for the literary job. A Dremel won't tear a fingernail away - it lacks the power. To paraphrase the Dremel manual, "Don't force the tool, let the speed do the work." It would nibble the alpha-keratin material away taking advantage of it's high speed. Next time you go to a podiatrist, take a look at the instrument table. Odds are you'll see a Dremel there. They use them to reduce thick calluses and ||drum roll|| toenails. Sam's injury didn't happen quickly - she was playing with the thing, seeing how thin she could cut it. It broke through and it bit her.
Hmm!
There's the apparent social isolation. Faye once had to ask something like "Don't you have any friends your own age?".
Well, so long as Hanners doesn't start hearing a voice in her head that says "consume" or "Learn. Grow."
Am I the only one who has completely lost interest in this "new and improved" version of Hannelore?
I tried so hard to resist, but I have ultimately failed.
- Tossing a penny into a fountain to make a wish. Tossing Pizza Girl into a fountain to make a wish.
On a side note, is Hanners aware of the Faye/Bubbles situation?
And now we know what Hannelore has been up to. Or down to, in this case.And acquired a pretty decent tan to boot.
And she survived Blood Mountain. No small feat there.
Am I the only one who has completely lost interest in this "new and improved" version of Hannelore?
Who knows.
Hannelore's character popularity was working against her, leaving her overexposed and overused, which can be disastrous if nothing is done. She's also had one of the longest and heaviest stories in the comic's entire history, but also one of the most divisive. I mean, this is her second appearance this year after that storyline. Thus, Jeph gives Hanners a break, but also allows a chance for growth and development without really having to show it.
Yay! Hanners Spic 'n Span World Tour (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1416). Sadly poor Winslow at her side is not as adventurous...
As for the horizontal pupil; putting a Giant Squid at an angle won't help, it has a round pupil. I call Cthulhu.
Let’s just hope her compulsion for cleanliness and science doesn’t lead to the Gizmonic Institute.
As for the horizontal pupil; putting a Giant Squid at an angle won't help, it has a round pupil. I call Cthulhu.Cuttlefish have some freaky pupils (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0042698913000539):
Let’s just hope her compulsion for cleanliness and science doesn’t lead to the Gizmonic Institute.
Well, she *would* do a good job cleaning up the place.
If, in the comics, Superman flies into space, and comes back a year later with a different costume and a different set of powers, would you like to know how that happened?
I sure would...
If, in the comics, Superman flies into space, and comes back a year later with a different costume and a different set of powers, would you like to know how that happened?
I sure would...
I'm more interested in what a year of Superman comics minus Superman would look like.
Already happened. It was called the Death of Superman, followed by Reign of the Supermen.
If, in the comics, Superman flies into space, and comes back a year later with a different costume and a different set of powers, would you like to know how that happened?
I sure would...
I'm more interested in what a year of Superman comics minus Superman would look like.
Already happened. It was called the Death of Superman, followed by Reign of the Supermen.
Comic’s up.
Pintsize is being nice. What’s his angle?
If, in the comics, Superman flies into space, and comes back a year later with a different costume and a different set of powers, would you like to know how that happened?
I sure would...
I'm more interested in what a year of Superman comics minus Superman would look like.
Already happened. It was called the Death of Superman, followed by Reign of the Supermen.
... and? What did Superman minus Superman look like? What did they write about that maintained readers' interest?
If, in the comics, Superman flies into space, and comes back a year later with a different costume and a different set of powers, would you like to know how that happened?
I sure would...
I'm more interested in what a year of Superman comics minus Superman would look like.
Already happened. It was called the Death of Superman, followed by Reign of the Supermen.
... and? What did Superman minus Superman look like? What did they write about that maintained readers' interest?
Where is this Clare thing going anyway? This isn't the first time anyone's made this observation, after all. I can't believe for a second JJ's actually going to have her fail, so...everyone's going to tell her to relax for an indeterminate number of strips until she finally does?
Going back to Sam and Faye - several people have assumed or speculated that Sam was at the shop without Jim's knowledge. But I was just reading back a bit and saw in #3800 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3800) that not only had Faye made Sam call Jim to get permission, but Faye specifically promised that "I'll make sure she comes back with the right number of fingers. Yeah, they'll still be attached to her." (I too had forgotten this detail.)
The fact that she messed up the exact thing she promised wouldn't happen changes the complexion of Jim's response to her quite a bit, I think, and makes it more natural.
Also, the fact that Faye made Sam call Jim underlines that up to that point he did not, in fact, know where she was.
Going back to Sam and Faye - several people have assumed or speculated that Sam was at the shop without Jim's knowledge. But I was just reading back a bit and saw in #3800 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3800) that not only had Faye made Sam call Jim to get permission, but Faye specifically promised that "I'll make sure she comes back with the right number of fingers. Yeah, they'll still be attached to her." (I too had forgotten this detail.)
The fact that she messed up the exact thing she promised wouldn't happen changes the complexion of Jim's response to her quite a bit, I think, and makes it more natural.
Well, Sam still has the same amount of fingers, and none had to be reattached. This incident is what Jim was thinking of, but failed to communicate just how inconsiderate Sam csn be with her life choices. Can you blame Faye for what happened? Yes, totally. Is Jim overreacting? in my eyes, yes. He could have told Faye "Look, this is what happens when you don't look after Sam properly. She still can go to the shop, but no more power tools.", and it would've been OK in my eyes.
Waxing theological here - If souls are a real thing, AIs in the QCverse must have them given the range of behaviors and introspection we've seen. And if AIs have souls, Bubbles has an old one, probably a very old one, and AIs are a recent form of sentient life. Therefore, AI souls must come from the same place as human's. They ARE people.Hmmm....... Perhaps they earn one based on behavior/deeds?
Now I'll go back to thinking about how to optimize the Maillard reaction on precooked pork sausages. (It's breakfast time.)
Caveat for this post: I’m not yet a parent (though I hope to be someday)
Jim’s treatment of Faye is out of line.
A 'professional' in charge of my child's well-being failed miserably and caused her great pain and anxiety.
In truth, Jim's "no power tools" edict is absurd.I wouldn't say absurd, as it not only protects Sam, but also Faye, Bubbles and Dora. We have no idea what insurance they have, or if it covers injuries to people who aren't employed there. I'm not talking about Jim suing Faye and Bubbles. I mean health insurance, liability and several other problems that could have arisen. If Sam had been seriously injured, Faye and Bubbles could have been liable. A quick check and a broken arm can cost around $2500. We have no idea what kind of money Union Robotics is making at the moment, but I imagine that they can't spare that kind of money.
If you know nothing of the business but wander in there selling, what?, stubbed toe insurance or coffee service, your first impression before encountering any of the staff will be, "DAMN that's a lot of power tools!" (That's before you catch sight of Bubbles and say, "DAMN that's a big war 'droid sans armor!") There's be a few strips about his dialing back on it, probably with Veronica's intercession.
Jim's the grown-up, but he's out of his depth with his tomboy daughter. Fact is, Samantha's two Xs instead of a Y and an X may actually be mediating damned fool behavior that would have gotten Sam killed. She's a challenge for any parent.
Veronica, OYOH, has her own stuff around not parenting Marten, at least not in any conventional way. Sam is her opportunity for a do-over.Then again, Veronica has had some major missteps in dealing with Marten, even with him as an adult, in particular when she came to visit after the Break-up and perhaps added more to Marten's suffering rather than help alleviate it.(click to show/hide)
Sam, as noted in an earlier comment, has maternal abandonment issues that she's just starting to work through.Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. The divorce could have been water off a duck's back for Sam, as she is living with her father. Sam's actions might speak more to the explorer in her, not quite having the experience to think before she leaps.
With the richly deserving exception of Corpse Witch, Jeph doesn't send his QC characters to Hell in a handbasket. (There was Sara, but that was early on and the poor allosaurus was starving. Yelling Bird is still around somewhere else, giving people Hell.) Jeph's setting up an arc about their growth and development into a family.Or its a story about Faye needing to live up to her responsibilities; as a business owner, as a friend, as a partner and as an adult. Its great that she's friends with Sam, but there comes a point where Faye can't be a friend and working at the same time when she's at UR.
This thread's storm-in-a-teacup reaction is more absurd than Jim's reaction by orders of magnitude.Allow me to edit that so we can get past the who was right/who was wrong business and on to speculation about where Jeph is taking the story.
Pintsize is an AnthroPC after all. He just chooses to be a companion in his own peculiar way.
Caveat for this post: I’m not yet a parent (though I hope to be someday)
Jim’s treatment of Faye is out of line.
A 'professional' in charge of my child's well-being failed miserably and caused her great pain and anxiety.
But see, that’s the key difference. Jim didn’t put Faye in charge of Sam, there was no discussion on his part about what the limits are or should be, or what he expected of Faye. When you take your child to a medical professional there is that kind of understanding both by law and by cultural custom. I could understand if Faye had actually done something seriously dangerous, but allowing a tween/teen to use a dremel is not relatively dangerous. Sam could have injured herself worse using a standard hammer. Would you say Jim’s reaction would be fair to Faye if Sam had hit herself with a hammer and broken her finger instead? I doubt it.
Again, Faye did make a mistake IMO, but not making sure she saw Sam operating the tool safely for a bit first. But Jim is more at fault here than Faye for not properly supervising his daughter in the first place and setting ground rules. Then Sam is at fault for being an idiot when Faye gave her the opportunity to try something. Jim needs to take responsibility for not laying down the ground rules and arranging things with Faye if he was going to let Sam freely spend time there. Not beat up on poor Faye who already feels bad and took the responsibility to go to him after the accident.
P.S. Soery to hear about your daughters and yours bad experience with the dentist, that’s awful.