i am enjoying the reference-yet-not to Alice Grove!! That is, it was left unrevealed what the circumstances of the moon were that would have put into motion the specific event within the story.
Beepatrice's idea would certainly fit, but, it could have also been something entirely different! Overall I am fond of the idea that there are now theories and perhaps unusual aspects of the moon in both of Jeph's multiverses!!
I take it that by "dark side" Beepatrice actually means the far side of the Moon, the hemisphere that always faces away from Earth. There is no "dark side" of the Moon; the entire satellite experiences a normal day/night cycle. </ObPedant>
Let's agree to spell Beepatrice the same way Jeph does...
There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it’s all dark...There is no dark side of the moon. It's just a conspiracy by the CIA to sell more Pink Floyd albums.
And now we know what the nonprofit agency does. “Uncanine Valley Robotic Pet Adoption Agency”. Robo-dog rescue!
Technically, the dark side of the moon is the side currently facing away from the sun......which is not a constant, but always changing, so one cannot build a base "on the dark side" and expect it to stay there.
But it's incorrect and inaccurate.I take it that by "dark side" Beepatrice actually means the far side of the Moon, the hemisphere that always faces away from Earth. There is no "dark side" of the Moon; the entire satellite experiences a normal day/night cycle. </ObPedant>
The term 'dark side' to refer to the side of the Moon that always points away from Earth is firmly rooted in popular culture, having appeared in both music and film.
Saw the sign too. Now I'm wondering if this is about AI pets that can be adopted by humans, or about helping AIs in their quest to adopt pets (e.g. spookybot with her non-AI dogs)?Spookybot appear to use "they/them" pronouns and speak about themselves in the first-person as "we". In appearance they remind me of the androgynous Desire of the Endless, from Neil Gaiman's The Sandman comic books.
I take it that by "dark side" Beepatrice actually means the far side of the Moon, the hemisphere that always faces away from Earth. There is no "dark side" of the Moon; the entire satellite experiences a normal day/night cycle. </ObPedant>
The term 'dark side' to refer to the side of the Moon that always points away from Earth is firmly rooted in popular culture, having appeared in both music and film.
But it's incorrect and inaccurate.
And now we know what the nonprofit agency does. “Uncanine Valley Robotic Pet Adoption Agency”. Robo-dog rescue!
Saw the sign too. Now I'm wondering if this is about AI pets that can be adopted by humans, or about helping AIs in their quest to adopt pets (e.g. spookybot with her non-AI dogs)?
I imagine it's mostly about the latter, since I can envision difficulties for AIs if they decide they'd like to adopt a cat or dog in terms of humans not accepting AIs as suitable for pet adoption.
And now we know what the nonprofit agency does. “Uncanine Valley Robotic Pet Adoption Agency”. Robo-dog rescue!
Everyone in Northampton is a tad strange. Except, ironically, Marten Reed.I dunno. Claire Augustus has always seemed pretty culturally beige to me. (Yes, she's trans. What of it? That's not strange.)
And now we know what the nonprofit agency does. “Uncanine Valley Robotic Pet Adoption Agency”. Robo-dog rescue!It didn't look to me as if that sign was for the place at which Roko had been interviewing; it looks like another office on the same floor, on the other side of the lift.
Everyone in Northampton is a tad strange. Except, ironically, Marten Reed.
Why is normality so important?
Why is normality so important?
Anyway, you can consider somebody as "normal" only as long as you don't really know them. That's when you understand they are as strange and far from the "norm" than anyone else. Normality is only an appearance.
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The strangeness of a personality is defined as: S = − ( n s − n s- )
I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
Stephen (stePH to friends). Encantado.I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
And suddenly you became my favourite poster whose first name I don't know!
And now I want bread. But it's just gone 5pm so the bakery in the shops across the road has probably closed. Plus I'd have to deal with CBD rush hour traffic to get to it.There's a rush of people driving out to buy cannabidiol? Where do you live?
Comic’s up. Fairy girl is back!Seems to have lost her wings... had that happened before?
Seems to have lost her wings... had that happened before?
Does anyone else think it's inappropriate of Roko to ask Elliot to mentor her in bread? I feel like she'd be making him a participant in her fetish without his consent. And if she actually takes a job at the bakery, then extend that to everyone else who works there and all the customers who come in. Like, there's a difference in my mind between just coming in to purchase bread vs "Tell me everything about this bread while I secretly get off on it."
Does anyone else think it's inappropriate of Roko to ask Elliot to mentor her in bread? I feel like she'd be making him a participant in her fetish without his consent. And if she actually takes a job at the bakery, then extend that to everyone else who works there and all the customers who come in. Like, there's a difference in my mind between just coming in to purchase bread vs "Tell me everything about this bread while I secretly get off on it."
I'm usually one to jump to the defense of characters that get thrown under the bus in the WCDT but I actually agree with you here.
Worse and in addition to that, Elliott is bound to find out at some point which will put him in a position of non-consensual awkwardness.He already knows. Renee told him, the last time Roko was there.
I do not think that he'd be participating in her fetish any more than someone who was asked to teach someone how to maintain their vibrator.
The ethics of this are really interesting.
Should it matter to the customers whether she's In It For The Money, sexually turned on, or filled with pride of craftspersonship?
I think I could buy a pair of boots and not be squicked if I found out later that the bootmaker had a boot kink.
And here Bubbles gets a practical lesson in "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."It doesn't mean you should, just because you can
I find Bubbles relatable right now, and for once that's NOT a good thing.
I do not think that he'd be participating in her fetish any more than someone who was asked to teach someone how to maintain their vibrator.For one thing, if you're in the business of vibrator maintenance, you've signed up to be adjacent to people's sex lives in that capacity, whereas Elliot has not.
For another, a vibrator is typically just a tool of sexual stimulation, not itself the object of a fetish.
I think I could buy a pair of boots and not be squicked if I found out later that the bootmaker had a boot kink.
And here Bubbles gets a practical lesson in "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
I'm surprised no-one has brought up an ethical issue with Roko simply walking into the bakery and ordering loaves of bread without disclosing to the baker the purpose for which they are being purchased. Because the issue is the same.
I'm surprised no-one has brought up an ethical issue with Roko simply walking into the bakery and ordering loaves of bread without disclosing to the baker the purpose for which they are being purchased. Because the issue is the same.What ethical issue is there? She's [assumeably] paying the bakery for their services, and what she plans to do with the bread isn't going to harm others, so it's not the bakery's business to know what she intends to do with it.
QuoteI'm surprised no-one has brought up an ethical issue with Roko simply walking into the bakery and ordering loaves of bread without disclosing to the baker the purpose for which they are being purchased. Because the issue is the same.What ethical issue is there? She's [assumeably] paying the bakery for their services, and what she plans to do with the bread isn't going to harm others, so it's not the bakery's business to know what she intends to do with it.
I think that Bubbles was perfectly in the right to lay down the burn she got, based on the information she had access to - She hasn't interracted with Roko since Spookybot, really - but Roko also deserved and was entitled to the apology.
Remember, Roko's existential crisis came from what a shitty position she put Bubbles in. The fact that she's fixing that now doesn't change that's what Bubbles remembers her for, just because we know what Roko's been doing. Fourth wall.
Anyways, what if her so called bread fetish is something completely mundane for humans like feeling pleasure for "pretend eating" or even smelling it like the tea thing?
I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
Why is normality so important?
Anyway, you can consider somebody as "normal" only as long as you don't really know them. That's when you understand they are as strange and far from the "norm" than anyone else. Normality is only an appearance.
I dunno, but who claims/claimed normality is important?
Not sure about live on stage, but he did co-write some tracks, and narrate them on a couple of albums.I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
Michael Moorcock performed with them, didn't he?
And here Bubbles gets a practical lesson in "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."It doesn't mean you should, just because you can
It doesn't mean you should, just because you can
Like Abraham and Ishmael fighting over sand
King Crimson, "Facts of Life" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FBmHB-YoQw)
What's with all the robo-emotion ?
We had Bubbles blushing about falling for Faye, then Beepatrice's embarrassment about human sex toys (which she herself comments on), now Roko getting upset about Bubbles' poorly-considered joke.
Aren't AIs capable of seeing past this sort of reaction ? Or are they deliberately crippled to make them more acceptable to humans ?
Sorry if it's an old question. It's just something I noticed a lot recently and joined up here to ask about.
What's with all the robo-emotion ?
We had Bubbles blushing about falling for Faye, then Beepatrice's embarrassment about human sex toys (which she herself comments on), now Roko getting upset about Bubbles' poorly-considered joke.
Aren't AIs capable of seeing past this sort of reaction ? Or are they deliberately crippled to make them more acceptable to humans ?
Sorry if it's an old question. It's just something I noticed a lot recently and joined up here to ask about.
What's with all the robo-emotion ?
We had Bubbles blushing about falling for Faye, then Beepatrice's embarrassment about human sex toys (which she herself comments on), now Roko getting upset about Bubbles' poorly-considered joke.
Aren't AIs capable of seeing past this sort of reaction ? Or are they deliberately crippled to make them more acceptable to humans ?
Sorry if it's an old question. It's just something I noticed a lot recently and joined up here to ask about.
Does anyone else think it's inappropriate of Roko to ask Elliot to mentor her in bread? I feel like she'd be making him a participant in her fetish without his consent. And if she actually takes a job at the bakery, then extend that to everyone else who works there and all the customers who come in. Like, there's a difference in my mind between just coming in to purchase bread vs "Tell me everything about this bread while I secretly get off on it."
I like that the AI in QC have emotions and can express them freely. But there comes a point where they can become too emotional and human-like, to the point where Jeph could have swapped out Bubbles and Roko for Faye and any other character, even a "meatbag" ex-cop. IMO AI should be more in control of their emotions than humans are, maybe able to even turn them off completely if necessary; this could be one of the differences (maybe advantages?) between them and us.
AI in the QC verse are not "made", they are emergent entities, same as humans. They aren't coded by anyone.And there seems to be a lot of randomness in the process. You can aim for Winslow, but get Pintsize.
Can she be excited in more ways that one about bread? - yes
I do not think that he'd be participating in her fetish any more than someone who was asked to teach someone how to maintain their vibrator.
To me, that's not the same thing. For one thing, if you're in the business of vibrator maintenance, you've signed up to be adjacent to people's sex lives in that capacity, whereas Elliot has not.
Artag talked about "seeing past" an emotional reaction. It would make sense, a priori, if AIs had better readouts of their internal state and more awareness than we do. The most likely reason they don't is that they weren't deliberately designed.
Not sure about live on stage, but he did co-write some tracks, and narrate them on a couple of albums.I vaguely recall seeing and album cover with the title "Quark Strangeness and Charm" maybe by Tangerine Dream?Hawkwind.
Michael Moorcock performed with them, didn't he?
I like to call Hawkwind "Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead, except they're actually psychedelic, and don't suck."
Not a legend. A fact. Until he got busted trying to carry methamphetamine across the US/Canada border. Then they fired him, and he went on to found Motörhead (which was the title of a Hawkwind song that he wrote).I like to call Hawkwind "Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead, except they're actually psychedelic, and don't suck."
And they also the legend that was Lemmy playing bass with them (And even singing arguably their biggest hit 'Silver Machine')
Artag talked about "seeing past" an emotional reaction. It would make sense, a priori, if AIs had better readouts of their internal state and more awareness than we do. The most likely reason they don't is that they weren't deliberately designed.
Panel 3 was a nice touch. It seems that Bubbles isn't fully aware of her strength always. She's going to need time and practice to try to do a reassuring shoulder squeeze without buckling bones and structural spars!
To be slightly blunt, if she is having sex with a human, she definitely must already have some idea of what kind of vigour to use when being affectionate with a meatbag.
To be slightly blunt, if she is having sex with a human, she definitely must already have some idea of what kind of vigour to use when being affectionate with a meatbag.
To be slightly blunt, if she is having sex with a human, she definitely must already have some idea of what kind of vigour to use when being affectionate with a meatbag.
It's all about concentration. Sometimes, stuff slips past.
To be slightly blunt, if she is having sex with a human, she definitely must already have some idea of what kind of vigour to use when being affectionate with a meatbag.
"Woman of Steel, Woman of Kleenex"?
... The conversation leading up to this was basically: "I have a bread fetish." "Have you thought about working at a bakery, since you have a bread fetish?" "I've thought about it, but it might ruin my fetish."
"Vibrator maintenance professional" is an actual job description?I'm not sure you thought this through properly...
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DIBS! :-D
Artag talked about "seeing past" an emotional reaction. It would make sense, a priori, if AIs had better readouts of their internal state and more awareness than we do. The most likely reason they don't is that they weren't deliberately designed.
... The conversation leading up to this was basically: "I have a bread fetish." "Have you thought about working at a bakery, since you have a bread fetish?" "I've thought about it, but it might ruin my fetish."
Is it really possible to ruin a fetish by making it part of your work life?
(asking for a friend)
Not a legend. A fact. Until he got busted trying to carry methamphetamine across the US/Canada border. Then they fired him, and he went on to found Motörhead (which was the title of a Hawkwind song that he wrote).I like to call Hawkwind "Britain's answer to the Grateful Dead, except they're actually psychedelic, and don't suck."
And they also the legend that was Lemmy playing bass with them (And even singing arguably their biggest hit 'Silver Machine')
(Edit: this is the wrong album cover. )