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Title: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Mar 2019, 05:19
More apartment hunting adventures ahead, perhaps?
Here's hoping it goes well for Brun and Reneé.


BTW, there's far more species of cave fish than I expected.

EDIT: If I recall correctly, it's 4 votes per user in the poll.
2nd edit: yellow for the glow was probably going to make the text difficult for some folks to read.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Mar 2019, 07:14
I wonder if Reneé would approve of any of the suggested troglobites as pets.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 09 Mar 2019, 08:50
Huh?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 09 Mar 2019, 12:43
No glowshrooms. She wants it as dark as possible.

For whatever reason, Brun has become my favorite character. Maybe because she's brutally honest, akd doesn't judge. At least not often.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 09 Mar 2019, 16:29
Huh?
Me too, traroth... me too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: SpanielBear on 09 Mar 2019, 17:20
Any answer that isn't Olm is suspect. They're baby pseudodragons, people, what more do you want!?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Mar 2019, 18:28
Huh?

troglobite noun
1) any creature having a cave-dwelling mode of life.
See also 'troglobiont'


EDIT: Burrowing animals don't count since they make their own subterranean network.
Also, since bats aren't always considered true troglobites but instead 'trogloxene' (lit. "cave guests"), it seems I should have included rats, and raccoons on the list. Yay for pedantic nerd arguments.

If I do, I'll reset voting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Milayna on 10 Mar 2019, 04:03
I dunno how it is up north but where I live you end up with pet camel crickets whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: War Sparrow on 10 Mar 2019, 05:09
Any answer that isn't Olm is suspect. They're baby pseudodragons, people, what more do you want!?

And adorable!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 10 Mar 2019, 08:49
I dunno how it is up north but where I live you end up with pet camel crickets whether you like it or not.
KC area, here.
Thankfully, we haven't gotten them in the mobile home yet, but our aunt has to deal with them constantly getting in her basement.

BTW, I've been doing some light research on amphipods (an order of soft-bodied crustaceans). A lot of them look seriously weird.  Some of them are Lovecraftian levels of weird.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Mar 2019, 21:05
Comic's up. And having once had an enthusiastic roommate like Brun, well, there's a reason why I prefer to live on my own.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: DaiJB on 10 Mar 2019, 22:53
Four choices?
Four bats.
Brun would have a bat-aviary.
To keep all of the people out of her nice, dark, cozy room...

Also:
"AI recharging cubicles"?
So, it's possible that we may get some of the AI cast as neighbours?

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 10 Mar 2019, 23:09
[snip]
"AI recharging cubicles"?
So, it's possible that we may get some of the AI cast as neighbours?

IIRC all the AIs we know up to now live with humans, except for Roko and Melon/Arthur, but they have flats of their own. Maybe we will meet the physical embodiment of Lemon there. And/or some of her sisters.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 10 Mar 2019, 23:37
Makes sense.  We've speculated here before about how an AI's physiological and safety/security needs wouldn't take much space to meet. 

Roko, by virtue of her employment,  needed to live as much like a meatie as possible,  thus the apartment,  and she seems to have developed a preference for hard copy page turning reading over direct literature download.  This no doubt triggered an untreatable case of bibliophilia - she keeps books she's read human-style like trophies.  And she probably has a sizeable stash of yarn.  She and Claire will meet when the latter is put in charge of expanding the Smif Library Victorian porn collection.

Melon and Arthur?  He needs a kitchen and no one will employ him to poach AAA cells in lithium sauce.  Melon just figures sooner or later she'll need space to keep all the zany.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Mar 2019, 00:20
For what it's worth, I think we've all been there. Not necessarily with a house but with a purchasing decision that just felt right somehow. Sometimes that works out and sometimes it doesn't. 'Go Fever' is a thing - overlooking bad aspects because you want to make progress. Also, sometimes the shiny wears off after you think about it!

All that aside, I'm pretty sure that Jeph wouldn't have gone to so much trouble about showing us this apartment if he didn't intend for Brun and Renee to move in eventually. With that in mind, I suspect that the charging cubicles is narratively for joke-of-day weird encounters with random Synthetics. When I read about the nice retired couple, I found myself wondering if this is the in-town residence of the naturist couple whose holiday cabin is near the Azuma family home.

BRUN: "Why don't you wear any clothes?"

LADY: "We don't want to."

BRUN: "Good reason."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BarGamer on 11 Mar 2019, 01:19
I managed to resist until now, but today's apartment agent panel 4 is extra cute. Like a Claire with frizzy hair.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 11 Mar 2019, 03:13
It’s good to shop around, but Brun sold her clock to get money for the deposit.  I’m not sure how good her last place was.  Perhaps she’s approaching this with a very low bar set.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: SpanielBear on 11 Mar 2019, 03:34
See, I could understand sleeping on it if you had reasonable objections, or if you still had other places to view that could be better. But otherwise, I’m actually with Brun. This ticks the boxes you were looking for. Why delay for the sake of delaying?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Mar 2019, 04:14
The thing is, in a tight rental market you need to be able to make that kind of snap decision. When we were moving to the Boston area, my wife missed out on several possible house rentals for us because she didn’t understand at first how quickly things moved. Finally she went to an open house at a place in Arlington, and within 90 seconds of walking in the door she was writing a check for the deposit - beating out the other half-dozen people who were viewing the place at the same time. We wound up living there for four years. (She was doing the house-hunting on her own because I was still in North Carolina so that our son could finish out the school year there.)

Northampton’s rental market isn’t quite that tight, but still, sometimes you have to make a decision quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Case on 11 Mar 2019, 05:12
Electric heating? Isn't that kind of ... expensive/wasteful? Or am I misunderstanding smth here?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Mar 2019, 05:37
It's more expensive than other forms of heating, and in the U.S. it's most commonly used in the southern parts, where there is less need for heating.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Mar 2019, 05:50
Most places around here have either oil or gas heat. But electric heat is probably cheaper for the owner of the building to install. The owner doesn’t need to worry about how much it costs to operate because the tenants will be paying for the electricity, not the owner.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Mar 2019, 06:13
It's more expensive than other forms of heating, and in the U.S. it's most commonly used in the southern parts, where there is less need for heating.

And where the Air Conditioning system is connected to the heat pump.

I have a gas/electric mix when it comes to heating* and cooling my place, but the electric is about 100% of the cooling during the summer.

* - Yes, you do need a heater in Arizona. You can't just rely on insulation when the temperatures hover just above freezing in the winter.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Killspree on 11 Mar 2019, 06:20
I'm in the southern US, in a rural area. We use gas for heating due to electricity getting knocked out ever time a serious storm come in. And in the rare ice storms that could be a week or so before they get the lines cleared and the grid back up. All those nice oaks with the droopy limbs done bear a lot of weight when they start getting coated with ice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: DSL on 11 Mar 2019, 06:58
Yep, electric heat can cost you, compared to gas or hot-water.
However, to Brun I'd say: Some of what turned out to be my best decisions were made on the spur of the moment, or in an "Oh, what the hell" moment after a period of overthinking.
My current car and the one before that. My second-to-last apartment. Taking that job offer. Walking away from that job 25 years later.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 11 Mar 2019, 07:35
Data point here: electric furnace and heat pump, in Carlton Oregon (near McMinnville, about 45 minutes from Portland by car).
This is my fifth residence in the greater PDX and I've only ever had one place that was piped for gas.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Mar 2019, 07:45
We're sort of lucky in the UK in that most population centres were piped for natural gas heating as a public infrastructure project in the late 1940s to early 1960s. The main motivation was to reduce the pollution from coke gas (which was the previous main form of heating and lighting fuel in the country). The carbon and sulphur particulate levels in the atmosphere over London in particular had long since passed the point where it was no longer safe to leave the house without a filter mask of some sort.

Then, on 5/16/1965 a gas explosion in London blew out the entire south-eastern corner of the 22-storey Ronan Point apartment building, killing five people and leaving hundreds homeless. Gas heating was subsequently outlawed in buildings over five stories tall. Because of this and the reliance on multi-storey structures for social housing in the UK, electric convection and storage heaters have become the national standard. We even have an electricity tariff offered by law called 'Economy 7' that reduces the cost of electricity overnight so that storage heaters do not become prohibitively expensive.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 11 Mar 2019, 07:59
Electric heating? Isn't that kind of ... expensive/wasteful? Or am I misunderstanding smth here?

"Down here" in my part of Europe we have some older buildings also using electrical heating. Thing is: it's usually powered by "night electricity". My bathroom water heater is the same. reasoning: it's cheaper, but only available from midnight to 6am.

my heating itself is done through "Fernwärme", they run some kind of exhaust heat through half the city.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Mar 2019, 08:30
Yep, electric heat can cost you, compared to gas or hot-water.
However, to Brun I'd say: Some of what turned out to be my best decisions were made on the spur of the moment, or in an "Oh, what the hell" moment after a period of overthinking.
My current car and the one before that. My second-to-last apartment. Taking that job offer. Walking away from that job 25 years later.
In my case, the "oh what the hell" job acceptance was followed by a better offer a few days after I already sent the acceptance...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 11 Mar 2019, 08:46
Electric heating? Isn't that kind of ... expensive/wasteful? Or am I misunderstanding smth here?

It’s what I had in my college apartment in Pennsylvania.  It could be expensive in the winter so if you’re budget conscience you dress warmly and only heat your bedroom.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Mar 2019, 09:13
Yep, electric heat can cost you, compared to gas or hot-water.
However, to Brun I'd say: Some of what turned out to be my best decisions were made on the spur of the moment, or in an "Oh, what the hell" moment after a period of overthinking.
My current car and the one before that. My second-to-last apartment. Taking that job offer. Walking away from that job 25 years later.

Your first instinct is usually correct, the thing is that its not 100% reliable. A friend's father once told me that when people think about things overnight, its not to think themselves out of a situation, but rather to confirm that first instinct.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 11 Mar 2019, 09:37
Yep, electric heat can cost you, compared to gas or hot-water.
However, to Brun I'd say: Some of what turned out to be my best decisions were made on the spur of the moment, or in an "Oh, what the hell" moment after a period of overthinking.
My current car and the one before that. My second-to-last apartment. Taking that job offer. Walking away from that job 25 years later.

Your first instinct is usually correct, the thing is that its not 100% reliable. A friend's father once told me that when people think about things overnight, its not to think themselves out of a situation, but rather to confirm that first instinct.

Like "let's see whether my subconscious lets something surface overnight"?
Probably more like "let's see whether I wanted just because I'm hangry"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Drooling Iguana on 11 Mar 2019, 10:11
Brun has the right idea here. On my last apartment search I had to go with my third choice because the first two were snapped up between the time I looked at them and the time I finished the paperwork.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Mar 2019, 14:05
Then, on 5/16/1965 a gas explosion in London blew out the entire south-eastern corner of the 22-storey Ronan Point apartment building, killing five people and leaving hundreds homeless.

Bear in mind that the injuries and damage caused at Ronan Point were down to inadequate construction and building codes, not the size of the explosion.  The woman standing next to the appliance which exploded was barely injured, but the small blast was able to dislodge a wall panel which was structural so that the flats above collapsed like a building of cards - because that was how it was actually built.  Even though the building was hurriedly strengthened, it was demolished less than two decades later, and some engineers believed that if it had not been, the 1987 gales would have been able to cause the same damage to the strengthened building (by sucking off an outer wall panel) as the gas explosion had.

That's not to say that there haven't been far more destructive explosions of gas, of course.  And I remember smog; and the smell of burning coke at home too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Rincewind on 11 Mar 2019, 14:30
In my area (South Eastern Pennsylvania, US.) more and more communities are putting requirements for solar panels in building codes for housing developments. Maybe they have some in this area?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Case on 11 Mar 2019, 15:37
Electric heating? Isn't that kind of ... expensive/wasteful? Or am I misunderstanding smth here?

"Down here" in my part of Europe we have some older buildings also using electrical heating. Thing is: it's usually powered by "night electricity". My bathroom water heater is the same. reasoning: it's cheaper, but only available from midnight to 6am.

my heating itself is done through "Fernwärme", they run some kind of exhaust heat through half the city.

Your "down here part of Europe" is about 700km from where I'm typing - Afaics, that's considered the other side of town in some parts of the US.  :-D

Wiki sez "Fernwärme" translates to district heating or teleheating: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_heating


As to Ronan point: We've had two beyond-design base events (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design-basis_event) (Chernobyl, Fukushima) in nuclear plants over the last 32 years, so I'm not so sure how concerned one should be about a gas explosion in 1965's London. There's spots in the infamous Red Forest next to Pripyat where even today, dead trees hardly rot at all because the radiation has killed most of the necessary microbes and insects.

Then again, I guess it's fair to say that basing critical long-term decisions on the emotional impact of one event that captures the imagination of many is basically how progress works in any human society.

I believe London was called "The Smoke" in one of its many earlier lives?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: DSL on 11 Mar 2019, 19:22
Your first instinct is usually correct, the thing is that its not 100% reliable. A friend's father once told me that when people think about things overnight, its not to think themselves out of a situation, but rather to confirm that first instinct.
It's worked more often than thinking something to death, but whatever browns your bacon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Freelance_Physicist on 11 Mar 2019, 20:08
Moses reposes on toeses and dozes, but Moses reposes luxuriantly.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Oenone on 11 Mar 2019, 20:10
I get that Brun is a forum favorite so it’s tempting to always side with her, but in this case I think it’s important to remember she’s house hunting as part of a unit. It’s appropriate to talk with your roomie about whether they want to live in a place before you BOTH sign a contract. It’s great Brun loves the place, but Renee has to live there too. She’s got a right to also feel good about her choice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 11 Mar 2019, 20:25
Hot and cold running cats. I'd be sold.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Mar 2019, 20:32
Brun has the right idea here. On my last apartment search I had to go with my third choice because the first two were snapped up between the time I looked at them and the time I finished the paperwork.

Same here. Except the paperwork was dragged out a full month because the apartment manager was dragging his heels on filling out a one-sided one-paged reference sheet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Mar 2019, 21:15
When I was looking for apartments last year, one of the places I looked at, they tried to pressure me into signing right there and then. I stalled (for one thing, at the time I wasn't entirely sure how much money I was going to be making yet, so I didn't want to commit to a lease right away), and they told me that they had two other people coming to see the apartment and it would be snapped up if I didn't sign then. A week or two later I decided on a different apartment. A week after I signed the lease for that apartment, the first place contacts me and asks me if I'm still interested. The apartment was still available.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Mar 2019, 21:19
I'm with Elliot here. I lost a place to live that I really liked once because I thought 'Let me sleep on it and get back to you' was the 'right' thing to do. Turns out when I called back the next morning it had already been rented. You snooze, you lose. You can't just ask yourself 'What could go wrong?' You also have to ask 'What could go right?'
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 11 Mar 2019, 21:58
I am with Elliot as well. The thing is, you need to turn up knowing what your decision will be once you have answers to your questions. If you have the answers to your questions and you're still not sure, then you haven't prepared properly.

Anyway, I doubt that sleeping on their decision will change it. It'll more likely just make her feel more comfortable with it. As Castlerook mentioned.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 11 Mar 2019, 23:30
It’s good to shop around, but Brun sold her clock to get money for the deposit.  I’m not sure how good her last place was.  Perhaps she’s approaching this with a very low bar set.
Well, it was over a firetrap dive bar.

Regarding heat, here in the Pacific Northwest hydroelectric was dirt cheap for years.  I heat with electricity with a wood stove fireplace insert for back-up but my neighbor across the street is on natural gas.  My parents heated our WWII-era constructed house with oil.  I can't remember the last time I saw new construction with oil heat or even a tank truck delivering heating oil to a residence.  No one I know of heats with coal here anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 11 Mar 2019, 23:44
That may not be so much a low bar as simply different needs. It was probably small and dark with small windows. She probably went to bed after the place shut so noise wouldn't be an issue (if it is an issue for her in the first place).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 00:21
It’s good to shop around, but Brun sold her clock to get money for the deposit.  I’m not sure how good her last place was.  Perhaps she’s approaching this with a very low bar set.
Well, it was over a firetrap dive bar.

Regarding heat, here in the Pacific Northwest hydroelectric was dirt cheap for years.  I heat with electricity with a wood stove fireplace insert for back-up but my neighbor across the street is on natural gas.  My parents heated our WWII-era constructed house with oil.  I can't remember the last time I saw new construction with oil heat or even a tank truck delivering heating oil to a residence.  No one I know of heats with coal here anymore.

My parents' house has an oil heating. At the time it was built in the late 80s, that was one of the cheapest variants.

I can remember my grandmother having a coal stove to heat her apartment, but she lived like 40 minutes out of town.


In my part of the world natural gas isn't used that often, hardly any buildings are connected. Most places have electrical stoves, since that's the only way.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Mar 2019, 00:30
I'll tell you why I think that Renee and Brun will end up taking the apartment: Brun has smiled more in relation to this place than she has about anything else other than dog puns! Something tells me that place will be good for her!

Meanwhile, if Eliott is talking about his current place, I want to see Moses sitting on Roko's lap, making her feel better as only a purring cat can! Either that or Melon trying to discuss philosophy with him.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 12 Mar 2019, 03:00
You don't look for the best place to live. You look for a good place.

Also: I like Elliott. He's a kind person.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 03:04
You don't look for the best place to live. You look for a good place.


You don't know whats best without having tried a few things.

Quote

Also: I like Elliott. He's a kind person.

Sometimes to a fault.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Skewbrow on 12 Mar 2019, 03:21
The housing complex we live in decided to switch from burning oil to geothermal 4 years ago. The cost of building the system was about 6k euros per family, but it has been saving a lot ever since. We have a total of 36 townhouses sharing water & heating, split into two housing cooperatives with separate budgets. What used to the boiler room could fit the geothermal equipment just fine.

This being Southwestern Finland, we generally have no real need for air conditioning. The last summer was an exception (ventilating alone would not drop the indoor
temperature below 75 degrees Fahrenheit no matter how hard we tried), so I am not losing sleep over that. At least not yet.

The key component to building a geothermal system was to drill seven holes, each 900 feet deep into the bedrock. The potential cloud in the horizon is that some other place nearby who later built a similar system seems to have hit a groundwater vein. We have had strange pools of water forming at select points also. I don't know what (if anything) needs to be done about it. The first 2 years went without incidents. May be the drought last year changed something underground?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 03:55
The only places I have found air conditioning here in Austria is in offices. I have yet to find a private household equipped with some kind of cooling, since it barely used to be more than 30°C around here (85°F).

This being Southwestern Finland, we generally have no real need for air conditioning. The last summer was an exception (ventilating alone would not drop the indoor
temperature below 75 degrees Fahrenheit no matter how hard we tried), so I am not losing sleep over that. At least not yet.

Cute. That's like 24 °C. that's a nice summer's day.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: hakko504 on 12 Mar 2019, 04:59
This being Southwestern Finland, we generally have no real need for air conditioning. The last summer was an exception (ventilating alone would not drop the indoor
temperature below 75 degrees Fahrenheit no matter how hard we tried), so I am not losing sleep over that. At least not yet.
South-ish Sweden here. Finland must have had a nice summer last year. Where I live we had close to 30°C for long parts of the summer. And we were lucky because even though our main heating is electric combined with a heat pump. Said heat pump was running quite a lot as an air conditioner rather than for heating last year ;) Also, while District heating is pushed heavily in Sweden I consider myself lucky to not have it. It works somewhat well for most parts of the year, but you're never really in control because you're limited to what the city gives you. Or for that matter, what your landlord is prepared to pay for as was the case in the last apartment I had.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 12 Mar 2019, 07:20
As to Ronan point: We've had two beyond-design base events (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design-basis_event) (Chernobyl, Fukushima) in nuclear plants over the last 32 years,
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 12 Mar 2019, 08:44
Even a nutty neighbor like Melon doesn’t outweigh Elliot’s choice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 09:31
As to Ronan point: We've had two beyond-design base events (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design-basis_event) (Chernobyl, Fukushima) in nuclear plants over the last 32 years,
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.

The tsunami did serious damage. The actual fuck up was human error. Or at least amplified the damage done.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Mar 2019, 09:49
And Chernobyl was entirely human error.  As (nearly) always, the weakest link.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 12 Mar 2019, 10:21
Late suggestions under the missing other category on poll;

lil Myconids
Cute lil baby otyughs - easy to take care of and to feed. If trained right they will be really good at housekeeping. No bug or rodent problems either ... or cats .....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Mar 2019, 10:26
The thing to remember as well is that its not just Brun who is apartment hunting, its Renee too.

Its all well and good if Brun gets excited about an apartment, but she's forgetting that it needs to fits Renee's needs as well. And Renee is right, they might find a better apartment elsewhere. I mean, a fantastic apartment won't mean a thing is someone has to spend several hours travelling to and from work everyday and by the same token, a great apartment downtown isn't worth it if you're working to just pay the rent.

Getting an apartment is an involved process, which I think Brun doesn't quite understand, nor does she understand why Renee is being so cautious about it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 12:21
The thing to remember as well is that its not just Brun who is apartment hunting, its Renee too.

Its all well and good if Brun gets excited about an apartment, but she's forgetting that it needs to fits Renee's needs as well. And Renee is right, they might find a better apartment elsewhere. I mean, a fantastic apartment won't mean a thing is someone has to spend several hours travelling to and from work everyday and by the same token, a great apartment downtown isn't worth it if you're working to just pay the rent.

Getting an apartment is an involved process, which I think Brun doesn't quite understand, nor does she understand why Renee is being so cautious about it.

Yes, but it'd be kind of stupid to pass up on something good just for the chance of something better.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 12 Mar 2019, 12:39
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.

The tsunami did serious damage. The actual fuck up was human error. Or at least amplified the damage done.
How so?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Mar 2019, 13:19
Yes, but it'd be kind of stupid to pass up on something good just for the chance of something better.

Its good relative to Brun.

And you need to ask questions before deciding anything. Years ago, a friend of mine nearly bought what could be described the perfect apartment. He was all set to sign on the dotted line until he got a whiff of the dump that was a mile or so down the road. Apparently the smell got worse in the Summer.

Brun isn't asking the questions that she needs to make an informed decision. I don't think the lady in this instance would cheat them and she seems quite honest, but still, its a big change and it requires a level of forethought that Brun has shown she doesn't possess. Its not a criticism of Brun, but rather pointing out a part of her character. She needs someone to rein her in a little before she makes a decision she could regret. And lets be honest here, Brun herself has even said that she needs routine, anything that throws off her routine does affect her. Apartment hunting can be stressful at the best of times for the most adaptive of people.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 12 Mar 2019, 13:58
What I hear you saying is that Brun does rely a little on Renee to help her navigate the world.

I mean, yes. I think that's been noted.

Also, I daresay that Renee likes the place as well, or they wouldn't even be having this conversation. Renee has just decided to sit on it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: War Sparrow on 12 Mar 2019, 19:42
New  Comic.
While I admire the sentiment-I don't enjoy making impulse purchases either-I totally get Renee's lack of interest in apartment hunting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 12 Mar 2019, 20:07
I feel the same way when I research the people on my ballot.  I don't like knowing my one vote could potentially be the one that puts an idiot or the greater of two evils into office. 

If a goopy kitty like Choo-Choo Bear has an exceptionally long life I can believe a floofy kitty like Moses can live to 27. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Mar 2019, 20:24
Awww, poor Moses.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Mar 2019, 20:46
You don't look for the best place to live. You look for a good place.


You don't know whats best without having tried a few things.

Quote

Also: I like Elliott. He's a kind person.

Sometimes to a fault.
But, as a fair few drunks have found out, do not mistake his kindness for weakness.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Mar 2019, 20:56
The only places I have found air conditioning here in Austria is in offices. I have yet to find a private household equipped with some kind of cooling, since it barely used to be more than 30°C around here (85°F).

This being Southwestern Finland, we generally have no real need for air conditioning. The last summer was an exception (ventilating alone would not drop the indoor
temperature below 75 degrees Fahrenheit no matter how hard we tried), so I am not losing sleep over that. At least not yet.

Cute. That's like 24 °C. that's a nice summer's day.
Reminder, southern Californians were wearing winter coats at 70°F this winter.
It routinely got down to between -10° and 1°F (with a windchill that dropped it another 13° or so) in Kansas. Though typically for 1 to 5 weeks, with the rest being in the 20s or 30s F. In the summer, it's typically between 90° and 110°F with the dewpoint making July and August utter Hell.

EDIT: specifying parameters.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 12 Mar 2019, 21:47
27 years?!?!?!?  Moses hell, more like Methuselah.

I hope he checked out in his sleep, purring in the lap of one of his many friends who was honored that such a cat would chose theirs for the final nap.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Mar 2019, 22:08
Not unheard of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_cats)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Mar 2019, 22:56
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.

The tsunami did serious damage. The actual fuck up was human error. Or at least amplified the damage done.
How so?

They wanted to salvage as much as possible (which isn't bad by itself), but AFAIK it wasn't possible by the degree they wanted.
The earthquake did no real damage, that was part of the design. The tsunami knocked out cooling, and the emergency generators (they blamed thst failure on being built too close to the sea).
They had to flood the reactor with sea water to cool it down, but that basically made some stuff unusable. Also, nobody wanted to admit the severity of the damage, so the owners told the people on site to keep on going without flooding the reactor,making things worse, and in the end leading to the actual meltdown. IIRC.

And chernobyl was a chain of unfortunate events coupled with parts being shut down for a test, amd a crapload of human mistake and maybe a bit of ignorance.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Mar 2019, 00:21
To me, I think that Renee was happy with the apartment too. She was just being cautious and hedging her bets. Was she being overly-cautious? Perhaps but I can well understand that when dealing with something as big as moving home (arguably one of the most stressful and psychologically traumatic experiences possible in life). I just hope that she isn't doing this now because she's basically too lazy to look for something better but because she genuinely does like the place!

Also: I love Brun in panel 2. She's still got a lot of kid in her, hasn't she?

Cat mortality note: My grandfather's cat was 30 when he died. Cantankerous hiss-generator that he was. I don't think that he liked me because I had my own cat's smell around me. Male cats don't tend to like each other's presence and I must have smelled a lot like one, given how my cat was hyper-tactile in showing affection!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Hoodiecrow on 13 Mar 2019, 02:12
"Elliot?" "See?"

Elliot See.

Yup.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: DSL on 13 Mar 2019, 10:19
"Elliot?" "See?"

Elliot See.

Yup.

Stay out of T-38s.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Sullivan on 13 Mar 2019, 14:24
Not unheard of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_cats)
Not unheard-of, but not at all common either. My vet tells me that a well-cared-for indoor cat can be expected to live about 12 years, and anything much longer is a gift; a whole lot of fatal things (kidney problems, cancer, heart problems) start showing up after that. My previous pair both lived to 12, and the pair before that to 17. I and a neighbor fed a "determined stray" who lived to 20.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Milayna on 13 Mar 2019, 15:24
Sometimes I get into a situation like this, where I feel the responsible thing to do is due diligence and then I DO do it and I find...all the options are perfectly adequate and I don't feel strongly about any particular one, but I've still got to make a decision I can justify somehow. In a way I'm envious of people that have tastes particular enough to meaningfully discern between options.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: badbum61 on 13 Mar 2019, 20:07
Well, I guess that settles that...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Mar 2019, 20:16
 :-D :laugh: :lol:

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 13 Mar 2019, 20:34
As to Ronan point: We've had two beyond-design base events (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design-basis_event) (Chernobyl, Fukushima) in nuclear plants over the last 32 years,
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.

The tsunami did serious damage. The actual fuck up was human error. Or at least amplified the damage done.
all of it.

Fukushima Daini (not Daiichi) was completely submerged by the tsunami. It was back up and running within a week of the disaster.

The big difference? Disaster training. It helps to have done things, like, you know, emergency drills, or so I've heard. To have emergency procedure manuals available on-site. Minor things like that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Mar 2019, 20:43
Yup! Bread's still good! Maybe too good...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 13 Mar 2019, 20:55
I guess her new sensorium works.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: St.Clair on 13 Mar 2019, 21:48
Question answered, definitively.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 13 Mar 2019, 21:53
Sensors are fine, but it doesn't seem like her reaction is any different.  It was possible her new chassis would have some Tex Avery emotive abilities, but it doesn't look like those fuctions are included. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: badbum61 on 13 Mar 2019, 23:42
It was possible her new chassis would have some Tex Avery emotive abilities

I was waiting for an "aHOOgah"!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 14 Mar 2019, 00:04
No better way to attune to your new sensorium than by a sniff of bread.

Maybe that was why her body felt so alien to Roko - everything DOES feel different. And maybe she's less ticklish now - or the opposite, due to the improved hardware.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Mar 2019, 00:19
Ever since I first saw this comic on Patreon, I've been imagining the overload warnings scrolling across Roko's field of vision! Frankly, I've suspected from the start that her new oflactory sensors would cause a visually hilarious but probably actually quite embarrassing reaction.

After turning the sensitivity down a few notches on her settings dialogue box, Roko's next task will be to stop poor Elliott worrying!

Question: What are The Secret Bakery's opening hours, Thursday to Saturday? Just for completeness of the Wiki page. :?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 14 Mar 2019, 00:38
I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place. I know, it's a last resort cooling mechanism, but how does the whole system get that hot anyway? Intentional by design overclocking to process sensory inputs and their effects, all while staying conscious?
I'd understand blacking out of a second to preserve processing power and stop fresh input - but that may result in an input/blackout loop. Then why not disconnect the sensory input causing it? Maybe that's not available in every chassis, or it would result in a sensory brownout / pseudoblackout.

Unless JJ actually is going to answer that soon in the comics, I'll have to spin my own theories.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 14 Mar 2019, 00:40
Question: What are The Secret Bakery's opening hours, Thursday to Saturday? Just for completeness of the Wiki page. :?

Thursday and friday are a good bet to be 7-4, too. Saturday is going to be tough to guess.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 14 Mar 2019, 02:09
It looks like the hours have changed a bit since comic 2009 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2009).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: artag on 14 Mar 2019, 02:44
I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place.

Poetic license.


For that matter, why do WE get 'hot and flustered' ?

Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 14 Mar 2019, 02:51
So everything is fine with Roko's fantasy life. Maybe even more than fine?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 14 Mar 2019, 02:52
I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place.

Poetic license.


For that matter, why do WE get 'hot and flustered' ?

The body is preparing to mate. It's a biological thing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 14 Mar 2019, 02:57
As to Ronan point: We've had two beyond-design base events (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design-basis_event) (Chernobyl, Fukushima) in nuclear plants over the last 32 years,
It's worth noting that Fukushima stood up to the earthquake quite admirably, and it was only the tsunami that fucked their shit up.

The tsunami did serious damage. The actual fuck up was human error. Or at least amplified the damage done.
all of it.

Fukushima Daini (not Daiichi) was completely submerged by the tsunami. It was back up and running within a week of the disaster.

The big difference? Disaster training. It helps to have done things, like, you know, emergency drills, or so I've heard. To have emergency procedure manuals available on-site. Minor things like that.

Actually, I have read at the time the earthquake badly damaged the Daiichi nuclear reactors, and the tsunami just finished the work. But it seems the team working at Daini reacted in a better way. Here an article analyzing how things went in Daini and how they saved the day:

https://hbr.org/2014/07/how-the-other-fukushima-plant-survived
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Transmundane on 14 Mar 2019, 04:39
So everything is fine with Roko's fantasy life. Maybe even more than fine?

If her reaction to her favourite thing is that, um, "good", then the rest of the sensory issues can just be ignored. 
Hooray for bread!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Cheetaur on 14 Mar 2019, 06:57
If her reaction is going to be that severe working there is going to be a big problem...LOL.
I did get a big laugh out of this though...thanks made my morning

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Milayna on 14 Mar 2019, 10:10
It isn't the hours that make me wonder, it's what made them go from an "artisanal" looking typefont to handwritten scribbles. Or is handwritten scribbles what kids consider hipster 10 years later? (Is hipster still a thing?)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Mar 2019, 10:17
(Is hipster still a thing?)
If it were, you wouldn't have heard of it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 14 Mar 2019, 11:12
It isn't the hours that make me wonder, it's what made them go from an "artisanal" looking typefont to handwritten scribbles. Or is handwritten scribbles what kids consider hipster 10 years later? (Is hipster still a thing?)

I think it's more in keeping with the current art-style for the strip.  I honestly felt the old script font pulled me out of the scene.  In the latest strip it feels like part of the scene, and didn't take me out of the experience.  The old font immediately snagged my gaze, and not in a good way.

Then again, I'm not a font aficionado, and don't visually wince at Papyrus like I'm supposed to.
(though I understand why it's a bad font, and don't use it myself)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Mar 2019, 11:59
If her reaction is going to be that severe working there is going to be a big problem...LOL.
I did get a big laugh out of this though...thanks made my morning

Global Moderator Comment Specifying a font colour which makes your post illegible in the forum's default theme is neither clever nor endearing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 14 Mar 2019, 12:38
I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place. I know, it's a last resort cooling mechanism, but how does the whole system get that hot anyway? Intentional by design overclocking to process sensory inputs and their effects, all while staying conscious?
I'd understand blacking out of a second to preserve processing power and stop fresh input - but that may result in an input/blackout loop. Then why not disconnect the sensory input causing it? Maybe that's not available in every chassis, or it would result in a sensory brownout / pseudoblackout.

Unless JJ actually is going to answer that soon in the comics, I'll have to spin my own theories.
Mandatory Law of Funny compliance.  Kind of like OHSA posters in our universe.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 14 Mar 2019, 13:12
I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place. I know, it's a last resort cooling mechanism, but how does the whole system get that hot anyway? Intentional by design overclocking to process sensory inputs and their effects, all while staying conscious?
I'd understand blacking out of a second to preserve processing power and stop fresh input - but that may result in an input/blackout loop. Then why not disconnect the sensory input causing it? Maybe that's not available in every chassis, or it would result in a sensory brownout / pseudoblackout.

Unless JJ actually is going to answer that soon in the comics, I'll have to spin my own theories.
Mandatory Law of Funny compliance.  Kind of like OHSA posters in our universe.
This. ^

On the psuedo-technical front of speculative engineering I would hazard to guess that things like the core housing the personality matrix and all that wibbly wobbly tiddly widdley mess of actively self rewriting code webs does not have anything like an adjustable clock regulator.
I think this would have something to do with real-time processing of analogue inputs ending up phase shifted and messing up the parameters if you did do that without the added compensation circuitry for each input.
Evaporation cooling for those rare times that the standard cooling system can not handle the load would be a very effective and efficient backup safety capability.
That it just so happens that a libido trigger would cause such an occurrence was most likely unforeseen in the design stage.

If any AI chassis [or core substrate more likely] would have the capability to overclock themselves it would be military systems that would require femto-seconds of screaming fast tactical processing to react to imminent threats between eons of standby mode and talking to the janitor about the latest episode of Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 14 Mar 2019, 14:11
It isn't the hours that make me wonder, it's what made them go from an "artisanal" looking typefont to handwritten scribbles. Or is handwritten scribbles what kids consider hipster 10 years later? (Is hipster still a thing?)

In QC time, maybe a year passed since then, max two? As far as I can say for sure, from the beginning till now, it's been like three years, in story time, maybe four?


I always wondered what cause the coolant vent in the first place. I know, it's a last resort cooling mechanism, but how does the whole system get that hot anyway? Intentional by design overclocking to process sensory inputs and their effects, all while staying conscious?
I'd understand blacking out of a second to preserve processing power and stop fresh input - but that may result in an input/blackout loop. Then why not disconnect the sensory input causing it? Maybe that's not available in every chassis, or it would result in a sensory brownout / pseudoblackout.

Unless JJ actually is going to answer that soon in the comics, I'll have to spin my own theories.
Mandatory Law of Funny compliance.  Kind of like OHSA posters in our universe.
This. ^

On the psuedo-technical front of speculative engineering I would hazard to guess that things like the core housing the personality matrix and all that wibbly wobbly tiddly widdley mess of actively self rewriting code webs does not have anything like an adjustable clock regulator.
I think this would have something to do with real-time processing of analogue inputs ending up phase shifted and messing up the parameters if you did do that without the added compensation circuitry for each input.

Software so dynamic you better keep the hardware as static as possible? Sounds reasonable to me. Will it hit its limits occasionally? Hopefully not, but you never know.

Quote
Evaporation cooling for those rare times that the standard cooling system can not handle the load would be a very effective and efficient backup safety capability.
That it just so happens that a libido trigger would cause such an occurrence was most likely unforeseen in the design stage.

give it a bit more power than it should ever need and keep the cooling system as quiet as possible? Still kinda reasonable. Emergency measures for the rare occasion.

Quote
If any AI chassis [or core substrate more likely] would have the capability to overclock themselves it would be military systems that would require femto-seconds of screaming fast tactical processing to react to imminent threats between eons of standby mode and talking to the janitor about the latest episode of Game of Thrones.

I'll flat out accept that.


Mandatory Law of Funny compliance.  Kind of like OHSA posters in our universe.

Plus: they're supposed to emulate certain human parameters, too. Human...-ish by design, and by accident.


Also, this is a webcomic, not the real world. We can make theories as much as we like, but there's a more powerful entity controlling what's going on, and I like to call him "Mister J".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 14 Mar 2019, 22:32
Today's comic hasn't dropped yet..odd.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Mar 2019, 23:11
Today's comic hasn't dropped yet..odd.
Here's hoping everything is okay.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Lear on 14 Mar 2019, 23:38
But I enjoyed the idea of Roko trying to enter again, with exactly the same result.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 15 Mar 2019, 00:38
There it is.

In German, there's the expression "ins Fettnäpfchen treten", meaning literally "to step into a (small) tub of grease". The proverbial foot in mouth. Well done, Renée.
Also, good for you Roko.


There's a Roko-/Robo-bakery pun somewhere. Specialty? Baked good in the likeness of lizards.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Mar 2019, 01:18
New Comic Up!

Okay, now maybe the shipper in me is reading too much into stuff. However, I'm wondering if Elliott has a crush on Roko. It suddenly occurs to me that he wants to spend more time with her and really, really wants to persuade her to do so, if I'm interpreting panel 4 correctly. Of course, anything  that lets Roko be around bread and the master of making the bread she loves so much is okay by her! I'm sort of waiting for the critical point where Elliott realises that Roko is into the bread and not him or, alternately, Roko starts wondering if it is just the bread for her any more!

However, for me, the main point of this strip is Renee. Can anyone imagine Faye reacting like Renee does here during most of the run of the strip? She has awareness of her own Foot-In-Mouth Syndrome and it's a cause of some frustration to her. I kind of empathise with her here because it sometimes takes me two or three attempts to parse things that I don't want in my speech out of my speech, which is why I seem hesitant to some people.

FWIW, I really don't know if, in panel 2, Roko is annoyed with Renee or more confused about her behaviour.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 15 Mar 2019, 01:52
Roko is fully living out her fantasy.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: brasca on 15 Mar 2019, 02:53
It's all well and good that Roko can apprentice at the bakery, but I thought the point of getting a second job was her charity work doesn't pay much so she needed to find addtional income. 

Strangely enough I'm actually sympathizing with Renee.  She can be insensitive from time to time, but this seems like an honest enough faux pas.  Is there any way to say something upbeat to someone who's chassis was crushed, but replaced a few days later? 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 15 Mar 2019, 02:55

But...
But...
But...

If Roko can turn down her sensitivity... Then her sensitivity shouldn't be a problem?

(Looks like those who were clamouring for an Elliot/Roko hook-up might be on tenterhooks at the moment!)

Interesting times.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 15 Mar 2019, 03:34
It's all well and good that Roko can apprentice at the bakery, but I thought the point of getting a second job was her charity work doesn't pay much so she needed to find addtional income.

Well, there's some indirect payment: she won't have to spend money to feed her fetish. (I'm assuming the smell is what she likes; I doubt she ingests the bread.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 15 Mar 2019, 03:39
It could lead to a paid gig in the longer term.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 15 Mar 2019, 04:47
New Comic Up!

Okay, now maybe the shipper in me is reading too much into stuff. However, I'm wondering if Elliott has a crush on Roko. It suddenly occurs to me that he wants to spend more time with her and really, really wants to persuade her to do so, if I'm interpreting panel 4 correctly. Of course, anything  that lets Roko be around bread and the master of making the bread she loves so much is okay by her! I'm sort of waiting for the critical point where Elliott realises that Roko is into the bread and not him or, alternately, Roko starts wondering if it is just the bread for her any more!

However, for me, the main point of this strip is Renee. Can anyone imagine Faye reacting like Renee does here during most of the run of the strip? She has awareness of her own Foot-In-Mouth Syndrome and it's a cause of some frustration to her. I kind of empathise with her here because it sometimes takes me two or three attempts to parse things that I don't want in my speech out of my speech, which is why I seem hesitant to some people.

FWIW, I really don't know if, in panel 2, Roko is annoyed with Renee or more confused about her behaviour.

I think that's your ship there. Elliot was just too kind to say no, and probably was flattered someone wanted to be his apprentice (although the way Roko blurted the question at him, she would've asked anyone IMHO).

Also, I doubt Roko can change whether she reacts to something, only how much she shows.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 15 Mar 2019, 06:00

But...
But...
But...

If Roko can turn down her sensitivity... Then her sensitivity shouldn't be a problem?

(Looks like those who were clamouring for an Elliot/Roko hook-up might be on tenterhooks at the moment!)

Interesting times.

He makes bread and has six-pack abs... It really was predictable.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 15 Mar 2019, 06:07

But...
But...
But...

If Roko can turn down her sensitivity... Then her sensitivity shouldn't be a problem?

(Looks like those who were clamouring for an Elliot/Roko hook-up might be on tenterhooks at the moment!)

Interesting times.

Plot twist: she needs heavy duty tools in order to turn down her sensitivity.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Mar 2019, 06:19
You see, the switch is really hard to reach, and you need something to help you reach it. Yes, that dough hook ought to work... No, no need to wipe off the dough first...  Oh yeah, Just like that... Yessssss....

 :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Mar 2019, 06:46
.........
Shame on you.


Also, most dough hooks are a weird elongated spiral. Her psychosomatic aspects would make that super uncomfortable.
(click to show/hide)
And, as you can see in the spoiler, dough hooks are also kind of big.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: traroth on 15 Mar 2019, 06:54
On the other hand, making a job out of a... let's say, passion... can be really disappointing in the long run. Will Roko still feel the same toward bread, once she will have to bake a certain amount of loafs per day?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 15 Mar 2019, 07:16
On the other hand, making a job out of a... let's say, passion... can be really disappointing in the long run. Will Roko still feel the same toward bread, once she will have to bake a certain amount of loafs per day?

Working your passion may burn out your passion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 15 Mar 2019, 07:38
Today's comic hasn't dropped yet..odd.

Just a reminder that in the States and Canada, clocks go forward on the second Sunday in March, whereas in Europe, they go forward the last Sunday in March
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: DaiJB on 15 Mar 2019, 08:08

But...
But...
But...

If Roko can turn down her sensitivity... Then her sensitivity shouldn't be a problem?

(Looks like those who were clamouring for an Elliot/Roko hook-up might be on tenterhooks at the moment!)

Interesting times.

I suspect that turning down her sensitivity may be undesirable, possibly even unpleasant - like deliberately numbing a limb or dulling sensitivity to light. She'll do it because she has to - to avoid "embarrassing" both Roko and Elliot .... which also makes me wonder - embarrassing how?
The imagination could run riot here.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Cornelius on 15 Mar 2019, 10:42
Possible consequence of turning down her sensitivity: a quick trip to Union Robotics to replace burnt dermal covering.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 15 Mar 2019, 10:49
Youth programs, religious groups, law enforcement activities, recreation organizations, educational institutions - all have to screen volunteers very carefully.  If you do a word-association test on most police officers words like "scout leader" & "youth pastor" will be associated with something like "pedophile."

As a former cop, Roko knows all too much about people who accept unpaid or low paid employment in order to have access to things they find sexually attractive.    She may have some inner conflict with the baking arrangement. 

OTOH, bread isn't sentient (at least not that we know of).  But will Jim feel obliged to notify his customers, "This loaf was rubbed on a robot's rump"?  No doubt there are people who'd pay a premium, but he may of may not want it to be THAT kind of a bakery.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Mar 2019, 14:02
Pretty sure selling bread that's been rubbed on a butt, even a robot butt, would be a serious health code violation
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: A small perverse otter on 15 Mar 2019, 15:12
Pretty sure selling bread that's been rubbed on a butt, even a robot butt, would be a serious health code violation
Yeah, and Roko being Roko, that would stop her in her tracks.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2019, 08:41
Today's comic hasn't dropped yet..odd.

Just a reminder that in the States and Canada, clocks go forward on the second Sunday in March, whereas in Europe, they go forward the last Sunday in March
We used to start ours the last Sunday of Marchuntil the Energy Policy Act of 2005. When it DST first got started on thiss side of the pond, it didn't start until the last Sunday of April.

Granted, most sane folks think the whole thing is stupid.

The rationale is certainly unsound (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time) AND it throws 2nd and 3rd shift employees under the bus.

EDIT: fixed link by actually pasting it in this time (I'm usually asleep right now).
EDIT 3: NOW it's fixed. Like I said, I'm usually asleep at the time when I posted it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 16 Mar 2019, 09:11
The rationale is certainly unsound (http://"h") AND it throws 2nd and 3rd shift employees under the bus.

Your link seems to be broken.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2019, 10:06
It's sorted now.

EDIT: now it's sorted.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 16 Mar 2019, 12:55
It's sorted now.
It goes to an essentially dead Wiki page with no information on the rationale.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Mar 2019, 15:27
Now it's fixed. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time) The link up there had an unnecessary "
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2019, 19:21
Now it's fixed. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time) The link up there had an unnecessary "

I was getting coding types mixed up. HTML's <a href> requires quotes around the link.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Cheetaur on 16 Mar 2019, 19:48
I thought she was going to get paid? It seemed that way when Eliot talked to the boss.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Mar 2019, 22:49
Didn't Jim say he couldn't afford another person on the payroll?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2019, 01:05
Elliott offered to take a pay cut so that Jim could afford to pay Roko. Given what is said in Friday's strip, I suspect that Jim (rightly) told Elliott that this was a silly idea and that he shouldn't allow his compassion for (and, possibly, his attraction to) Roko to hurt him.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 17 Mar 2019, 02:48
Elliott offered to take a pay cut so that Jim could afford to pay Roko. Given what is said in Friday's strip, I suspect that Jim (rightly) told Elliott that this was a silly idea and that he shouldn't allow his compassion for (and, possibly, his attraction to) Roko to hurt him.

I think it's waaaaaay more (com-)passion than attraction, if any. I think Elliot is just easily excited.
And I think it's some kind of "as long as you don't neglect your duties, do whatever you want" situation, hence no pay.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Mar 2019, 05:19
Elliott offered to take a pay cut so that Jim could afford to pay Roko. Given what is said in Friday's strip, I suspect that Jim (rightly) told Elliott that this was a silly idea and that he shouldn't allow his compassion for (and, possibly, his attraction to) Roko to hurt him.

Or it might just be that the Secret Bakery has three full time staff that we know of (Jim, Elliott and Renee) and can't really afford to take on someone new. I mean, how long has it been since Padma left and no one has been taken on to replace her? But if its just the experience of professionally making bread that Roko is looking for, Jim might just be amenable to letting her learn there for a time.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Mar 2019, 06:49
It looks like 'bat' and 'spotted-tailed salamander' are tied as clear winners for Brun's pet.
The question becomes what kind of bat?

I'm personally suggesting the Honduran white bat. They're adorable puffballs and primarily eat fruit.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Ectophylla_alba_Costa_Rica.jpg/220px-Ectophylla_alba_Costa_Rica.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 17 Mar 2019, 09:26
It looks like 'bat' and 'spotted-tailed salamander' are tied as clear winners for Brun's pet.
The question becomes what kind of bat?

I'm personally suggesting the Honduran white bat. They're adorable puffballs and primarily eat fruit.
Australian flying foxes would look like Satanic inverted puppy dogs if they weren't so damn cute.
(https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1954358-3x2-940x627.jpg)
The Portland OR zoo had a bat house last time I was there several years ago.  They had lines strung across the ceiling and the little critters would follow their favorite keepers around.  If I had the right kind of space I wouldn't mind having one for a pet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Mar 2019, 19:32
*snip*
 If I had the right kind of space I wouldn't mind having one for a pet.
Hence me suggesting the Honduran white bat. They're body length is 37–47 mm (1.5–1.9 in).


EDIT: I was doing an image search and found some plushies of them that are bigger than the actual animal.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 18 Mar 2019, 03:42
Did you mean to post in this week's thread (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34363.0.html)?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 19 Mar 2019, 01:51
Did you mean to post in this week's thread (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34363.0.html)?
Nope.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Tova on 19 Mar 2019, 04:49
That question was actually directed at a different poster who has since deleted their post from this thread and reposted in this week's.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 19 Mar 2019, 08:19
That question was actually directed at a different poster who has since deleted their post from this thread and reposted in this week's.
Ah.
BTW, how do we link specific posts from a thread?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 19 Mar 2019, 10:28
Right-click the title at the top of the post concerned and select to copy the link.  (It's orange because it's a link.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 3956-3960 (11th to 15th March 2019)
Post by: Hoodiecrow on 25 Mar 2019, 23:20
That question was actually directed at a different poster who has since deleted their post from this thread and reposted in this week's.

To wit, it was this nitwit (me), showing off my newbieness.

I thought it was better to make as little noise as possible, so I just "liked" the note and deleted my post. I didn't mean to cause confusion, sorry.