I'm hoping for some breadmaking and bonding between Elliott and Roko as they try to extend their understanding of each other beyond the broad stokes that are all they know of each other to date.
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.That's a common statement, but it's not supported by any real data. The fact is that nobody has any evidence to support any explanation.
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
Hey, bread is just that awesome!
In Roko's case, its probably the tactile and sensory sensation she enjoys about the bread. Have you ever baked bread at home? Like mixing the dry ingredients together before adding the wet and then kneading it into a dough? Its relaxing for some and I imagine that for Roko in her previous job, bread became a relaxing element to her life. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I seriously doubt a bread fetish is the weirdest one out there.
Still think Roko asking Elliot to participate in her fetish was super weird and inappropriate, tbh. It makes it a little better that he is aware that it's a fetish thing and is explicitly okay with that, but still...I don't think it's kinkshaming to expect people to reserve their sex stuff for sex contexts.
Still think Roko asking Elliot to participate in her fetish was super weird and inappropriate, tbh. It makes it a little better that he is aware that it's a fetish thing and is explicitly okay with that, but still...I don't think it's kinkshaming to expect people to reserve their sex stuff for sex contexts.
Why should anyone care if Roko or any AI gets off on baking bread? It’s not like she’s leaking genetic material into the dough... or humping the fridge.
Still think Roko asking Elliot to participate in her fetish was super weird and inappropriate, tbh.
It does leave me wondering if real artisan bakers name their yeast farms though...! :-P
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
Yes, this definitely happens. I know someone who named her sourdough.It does leave me wondering if real artisan bakers name their yeast farms though...! :-P
I've known some who do.
If your sex is getting stale, you're doing it wrong.So, you're saying they should try including baked goods? ;)
I mean, who am I to object if someone wants to bring a little roll playing in to spice up their sex lives?
I mean, who am I to object if someone wants to bring a little roll playing in to spice up their sex lives?And the more I think about it, the more likely it is that some of Jim's customer base would require rolls repeatedly rubbed on a reasonable, reinstalled robot's regal, resplendent, and recently restored rump.
As long as your partners are cool with it, go for it. If nothing else, it will be tasty.Considering some local baked goods, that could potentially be a very sticky situation.
*snip*
I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I seriously doubt a bread fetish is the weirdest one out there.
For Gawd's sake, don't!! If you do someone's bound to say, "Hold my electrodes, furniture polish, and this can of creamed corn."*snip*
I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I seriously doubt a bread fetish is the weirdest one out there.
Not by a long shot.
For sanity's sake, I won't list the ones that are the worst.
That logic actually makes perfect sense. And is totally the kind of workaround I could see some of the programmers I know kludge together.
I have a feeling if you shook Melon you’d hear a bunch of silly sound effects.
I have a feeling if you shook Melon you’d hear a bunch of silly sound effects.
Dunno, but you'd probably hear a fair bit of rattling.
I mean, someting's loose...
"Giving someone a story to tell is easy. All it takes is a smile." (http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-gift-giving)i]I have a feeling if you shook Melon you’d hear a bunch of silly sound effects.
Dunno, but you'd probably hear a fair bit of rattling.
I mean, someting's loose...
Now my colleagues are asking themselves why I'm chuckling all by myself... :-D
I'm still boggled by Roko's strange... obsessions... with gluten-bearing foodstuffs. How the heck would such a thing as a "bread fetish" even come about? Many human fetishes, such as for shoes, develop from misassociations between sexual excitement and nonsexual content that occur during childhood... but robots don't have childhoods.
The mechanism has been established in a Patreon-only strip.
The exact details aside, all that really matters is that certain sensory stimulation creates a effect in Roko's neural processes analogous to sexual stimulation in humans. TBH, the 'why' doesn't matter and likely will never be addressed. Much of what QC-verse AIs do seems to be a mystery even to them (let alone to their creators) so there may not be an easily-diagnosable cause at all. I suspect that even Roko doesn't know 'why', any more than she really knows why she has a 'tickle' response in her feet.I'm rather surprised nobody in the cast has thought to ask about it yet, not even someone as tactlessly-impulsive as Melon.
Oddly enough, it was Melon who asked in the Patreon-only strip. Even she doesn't entirely get it, even after Roko explains! :lol:
Ah Melon! Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong. Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
If the wrong person prepares the tea:Ah Melon! Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong. Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
If the wrong person prepares the tea:Ah Melon! Soon we'll see how Roko's new sensorium reacts to the scent of Oolong. Will we see Mrs Giraffe, or will it be somehow skewed?I think that will depend on who prepares the tea.
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Googling the phrase "sexy giraffe" is as far as I got with that exercise.
If you're feeling up to it, feel free to google it yourself. Either way, I shan't bother providing an image, as I'm sure you get the gist.
If the right person prepares the tea:
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Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
There is something about robutts in this comic...Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
I thought about thinking it, but was 'meh' instead.
I was closer to daaaaaaang!ing Roko in the one before.
There is something about robutts in this comic...Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
I thought about thinking it, but was 'meh' instead.
I was closer to daaaaaaang!ing Roko in the one before.
Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)
Am I the only one who saw Melon and thought, "dat ass" in tonights comic? (3963)Faye and Bubbles do good work.
Dora just hasn't been looking like Dora; the projection of self-confidence that's been a hallmark (even when it's not justified) of the Dora model is missing today.
Melon has no clue, but she has a good heart.
Wash her face? Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?
I just wonder how long Roko and Elliot have been talking about inconsequential things, just unwilling to end the interaction? :-D
Wash her face? Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?
Wash her face? Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?She did just finish a shift at a bakery. She probably has flour on it.
Wash her face? Is that something Roko's new chassis requires or just an excuse to leave the room?
Comic's up.Have to agree with this. Melon was originally more of a comedy character for filler strips, more along the lines of Yelling Bird. Having her actually interact on a regular basis with our main characters and contribute to the plot feels weird.
And I want to like Melon, I really do, but I don't know, maybe less is more.
Melon, to me, kinda feels like the same type of joke told repeatedly.
Melon, to me, kinda feels like the same type of joke told repeatedly.
I made no secret of feeling the same way.
Recently, though, I was *almost* ready to cut her some slack. For some reason, today's comic reset me to not liking her appearances. I can't quite put my finger on why.
EDIT: it might be that it's my pet peeve when people (fictional or otherwise) impose the way they act or think upon others. When someone acts or reacts unusually, I'm fine with this (or consciously try to be, at least). Even when it's very unusual and even somewhat disruptive for others. But when those same people act like others share in their experience, I immediately go to "no, it's all you".
Maybe it's because I've had to spend a lot of my life figuring out how others seem to think and feel extremely unlike the way I tend to, but people who are either unable or unwilling to step outside their heads at ALL and just kind of assume everyone is like them rub me the wrong way. I don't exactly *blame* Melon, because she seems to be cognitively impaired in some way, but character development like this still... I don't know what word to use. Unsettles me? Annoys me?
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Maybe it's because I've had to spend a lot of my life figuring out how others seem to think and feel extremely unlike the way I tend to, but people who are either unable or unwilling to step outside their heads at ALL and just kind of assume everyone is like them rub me the wrong way. I don't exactly *blame* Melon, because she seems to be cognitively impaired in some way, but character development like this still... I don't know what word to use. Unsettles me? Annoys me?
Just compulsively washing her face.
Can an AI have a breakdown?
I hope Eliot doesn't divert from his own instinct because of melon's response.
Oh god. She doesn't see herself in the mirror. It looks like her, but it isn't her. Not really her. And every time she looks away from the mirror, she desperately hopes that the next time she looks up she'll see herself looking back, but she doesn't. And every time it crushes her a little more.Thank you for the clue-by-four.
I fucking HATE mirrors. More than anything. Except maybe fitting rooms.
While I generally really appreciate the fact that Jeph doesn't make Claire's story about being trans* (that she isn't just "the trans* character"), I think she's probably the best equipped to understand how Roko is feeling right now. I kinda hope they get a chance to talk.
Dammit...
Just when we were starting to think "Hey! Looks like Roko's got a handle on this thang!"
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Yelling Bird. Having her actually interact on a regular basis with our main characters and contribute to the plot feels weird.
Do AIs sweat? Because that the main reason humans have to wash frequently I think. If that sweat smells differently it might feel like not owning your body.
Oh god. She doesn't see herself in the mirror. It looks like her, but it isn't her. Not really her. And every time she looks away from the mirror, she desperately hopes that the next time she looks up she'll see herself looking back, but she doesn't. And every time it crushes her a little more.Thank you for the clue-by-four.
I fucking HATE mirrors. More than anything. Except maybe fitting rooms.
While I generally really appreciate the fact that Jeph doesn't make Claire's story about being trans* (that she isn't just "the trans* character"), I think she's probably the best equipped to understand how Roko is feeling right now. I kinda hope they get a chance to talk.
I was just thinking she was having issues processing the way the water felt. Like it was just off. Whether it be due to the chasis or someone screwing up the chlorine levels or something for the current batch at the water treatment center.
Chibi style AnthroPCs have an internal reservoir full of a viscous, opaque liquid they can exude through their hair follicles in order to simulate the Nervous Anime Sweatdrop. It's kind of gross, actually.Some other comics showed her crying too. But I don't recall any other AIs that could do either.
Am I the only one who read Roko going to wash her face as her trying to clear her head? Melon comes in and is herself, and Roko uses the moment to excuse herself to process thoughts? It's a rather human behavior (for example some people pace while speaking out loud to themselves while processing difficult or confusing thoughts), but the AIs IIRC are programmed for it for better/easier integration in society.
I wonder if Faye and Dora's therapist is trained to treat AIs? Maybe a referral is in order?Didn’t she say she wouldn’t take on any more of the crew due to potential conflicts of interest?
I wonder if Faye and Dora's therapist is trained to treat AIs? Maybe a referral is in order?
Though, Lemon stated that her usual patients were nuclear reactor AI.I wonder if Faye and Dora's therapist is trained to treat AIs? Maybe a referral is in order?
IMO, if Roko can be persuaded to seek therapy, it will probably be with Lemon who has prior knowledge of the case and apparently has some kind of official capacity with ECI, given that she was working at the facility where Roko's core was recovered and restarted before she was installed in her new chassis. I'm sort of hoping that we see her again and that we learn that she has a PhD in AI psychology.
I wonder if Faye and Dora's therapist is trained to treat AIs? Maybe a referral is in order?
IMO, if Roko can be persuaded to seek therapy, it will probably be with Lemon who has prior knowledge of the case and apparently has some kind of official capacity with ECI, given that she was working at the facility where Roko's core was recovered and restarted before she was installed in her new chassis. I'm sort of hoping that we see her again and that we learn that she has a PhD in AI psychology.
I wonder if Faye and Dora's therapist is trained to treat AIs? Maybe a referral is in order?Didn’t she say she wouldn’t take on any more of the crew due to potential conflicts of interest?
Or possibly Faye reported that she said so, at least.
20 minutes of face washing we would call "OCD" if a squishy were doing it.And as we saw with Momo and the swamp, sometimes they just need to clean their dermal layer.
Does Roko have another challenge in addition to her body dysphoria?
In another line of thought I was wondering why a robot has a bathroom. Building codes probably require it, and she has organic visitors sometimes.
We have seen AIs go out of their way to do things like squishies even when it made no sense, such as Momo applying insect repellent to herself.
We have seen AIs go out of their way to do things like squishies even when it made no sense, such as Momo applying insect repellent to herself.
They probably just want to avoid bugs.