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Title: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 Mar 2019, 06:18
Well, Claire's going to have to face her exams sooner or later. Here's hoping Martin can convince her to get out of bed.


Anybody else tired of April Fool's Day "pranks" just being a bunch of people telling lies? We have enough of that already.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 31 Mar 2019, 06:58
On the subject of whether simple falsehood is a “good” prank, I deeply object to the insinuation that there exists such an impossible creature as a “good prank” – explicitly setting out to harm someone is otherwise called fraud or assault depending on the nature of the harm and justifying it by claiming it was all for the amusement of yourself or others is just digging the hole deeper imho.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 Mar 2019, 07:16
Swapped some things around in the poll to give the options a nicer curve, as well as adding quotation marks around "good prank".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 31 Mar 2019, 09:06
On the subject of whether simple falsehood is a “good” prank, I deeply object to the insinuation that there exists such an impossible creature as a “good prank” – explicitly setting out to harm someone is otherwise called fraud or assault depending on the nature of the harm and justifying it by claiming it was all for the amusement of yourself or others is just digging the hole deeper imho.
If the pranked party finds it amusing as well and bellylaughs are had all around, I'd call that a good prank.  I'll grant you, many are indeed undertaken in a spirit of bullying and not good humor.  Perhaps it is that sort you're thinking of.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 31 Mar 2019, 12:04
Some things have to be set up by omission or bending of truths, which is okay. Flat out telling a lie is something different entirely, it always depends on what you want to do. Making the lie the punch line of your joke is probably going to backfire. There is so much that can go wrong.

A good prank works even if people know something's up.




Anyways, what do you think Claire will do with her freedom once she's passed all of her exams?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 31 Mar 2019, 15:08
A librarian I know tells me the job market in our world is grim.

I couldn't come up with a good prank this year but the comment about lying gave me an idea.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 31 Mar 2019, 15:40
Once she passes, she'll start applying to college libraries at Colleges around Northampton.   So, does she take over for someone at Williston, becoming Tai and Marten's boss.  Does she go further afield?  And might that entail moving away, and what would that portend for the strip? Or would she put her career and dreams on hold or would Marten decide his best future is at Claire's side?

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Zebediah on 31 Mar 2019, 16:15
College libraries aren’t Claire’s only options. There are also public libraries and school libraries.

That job market is still pretty grim, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: War Sparrow on 31 Mar 2019, 16:39
Depending on the type of library science, she could find work in IT. There's library degrees that are more "techy" than "booky", especially these days. There's librarian jobs at some government agencies that are basically database management.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 Mar 2019, 18:36
Once she passes, she'll start applying to college libraries at Colleges around Northampton.   So, does she take over for someone at Williston, becoming Tai and Marten's boss.  Does she go further afield?  And might that entail moving away, and what would that portend for the strip? Or would she put her career and dreams on hold or would Marten decide his best future is at Claire's side?

Thanks to some weird EC tech experiment gone wrong, she becomes a cyber sentai (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/pump-up-the-power-a-look-back-at-superhuman-samurai-syber-squad) and fights monstrous representions of computer viruses and hackers.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 Mar 2019, 19:48
Now this (http://shutupmerlin.tumblr.com/post/183814287237/a-series-of-events-1-i-put-in-an-annual-leave) is a proper prank. Even if it did backfire a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Case on 31 Mar 2019, 20:40
Do not forget your signal flares for your finals, kids.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 31 Mar 2019, 20:54
Now this (http://shutupmerlin.tumblr.com/post/183814287237/a-series-of-events-1-i-put-in-an-annual-leave) is a proper prank. Even if it did backfire a bit.

It's a rather fine example of Not Thinking Things Through, that's what it is.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 31 Mar 2019, 22:32
Your lunch, should you accept it, is to fire the signal flare at the most inopportune moment possible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Cornelius on 31 Mar 2019, 22:56
If all else fails, she can use the flare to simply light the stack of handed in exams at the end.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 31 Mar 2019, 23:07
If all else fails, she can use the flare to simply light the stack of handed in exams at the end.

Cackling mischievously?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 31 Mar 2019, 23:22
I'm sort of disappointed that we don't get to see Marten talking Claire out of her panic attack. That said, we've already sort-of had this already and maybe there's no need to have the same strips twice. It's worth it so that we get an early view of Claire wearing her 'Lbrys R Srs Bsnss' clothes.

Bubbles is being cute to Small Friend as always. That said, I'm still trying to work out if the signal flare is an example of her taking things a bit too seriously, a subtle attempt to use humour to get Claire to acknowledge that her fears are silly or some kind of Chekhov's Gun! Her smile definitely makes me lean towards Bubbles being proud of her foresight and apparently thinking that final exams are more physically threatening than they actually are!

If all else fails, she can use the flare to simply light the stack of handed in exams at the end.

Cackling mischievously?

No, screaming: "You can't mark those! I messed up! I won't let that be my answers on the record!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 01 Apr 2019, 01:33
Chekhov’s Signal Flare! The real question is; what counts as the third act here?
That said, I'm still trying to work out if the signal flare is an example of her taking things a bit too seriously, a subtle attempt to use humour to get Claire to acknowledge that her fears are silly or some kind of Chekhov's Gun!
Yes. All three.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 01 Apr 2019, 01:36
Claire will kick ass and eat snacks during her finals.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Apr 2019, 02:37
College libraries aren’t Claire’s only options. There are also public libraries and school libraries.

IIRC, Claire's real interest is more in the preservation and care of ancient books. The idea of ancient knowledge in her hands seems to be something that fascinates her. So she could easily end up working for a museum archive or even a private collector who wants to keep their books in good condition.

Naturally, she would find the Ancient Cursed Tome of Forbidden KnowledgeTM or something similar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 01 Apr 2019, 02:39
Your lunch, should you accept it, is to fire the signal flare at the most inopportune moment possible.

Obviously the flare is to distract any wandering T-rexes that assault the exam hall.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 01 Apr 2019, 04:17
College libraries aren’t Claire’s only options. There are also public libraries and school libraries.

IIRC, Claire's real interest is more in the preservation and care of ancient books. The idea of ancient knowledge in her hands seems to be something that fascinates her. So she could easily end up working for a museum archive or even a private collector who wants to keep their books in good condition.

Naturally, she would find the Ancient Cursed Tome of Forbidden KnowledgeTM or something similar.

The Indiana Jones of library sciences?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Apr 2019, 05:19
I personally carry reflective triangles myself. Less dangerous.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: DSL on 01 Apr 2019, 05:34
Throw the veggies in water, use the signal flare to heat it and make soup.

Cue the fun-at-parties brigade to post walls-o'text as to why that's impossible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 01 Apr 2019, 05:59
A smoke grenade would be more useful. If ever Claire needs to sneak out...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 01 Apr 2019, 06:53
Her smile definitely makes me lean towards Bubbles being proud of her foresight and apparently thinking that final exams are more physically threatening than they actually are!

I'd imagine Bubbles' final exams were fairly physically threatening, clearly she still holds certain assumptions based on her own experience.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 01 Apr 2019, 07:48
Claire will kick ass and eat snacks during her finals.
Is she Squirrel Girl now?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 01 Apr 2019, 08:09
What I like most about this strip is that I honestly can't quite tell how serious Bubbles is, which speaks well for her character development over the last few years. Is it really a signal flare? Possible. Is it an emergency wrap with some light but tasty protein? Also possible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Zebediah on 01 Apr 2019, 08:59
Claire will kick ass and eat snacks during her finals.
“I’m here to kick ass and eat snacks, and I’m all out of ass!  .... Wait, that came out wrong.”
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 01 Apr 2019, 10:47
I'm here to kick snacks, and eat... Lalala biscuits. Has anyone tried these things? Sailors used a basic version in the nineteenth century to stave off scurvy, and these things are great! Lembas bread, but not quite as tasty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Apr 2019, 11:32
Bubbles has shown leadership qualities before, and a former Marine told me long ago that humor was among the tools non-coms used.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 01 Apr 2019, 11:48
Bubbles has shown leadership qualities before, and a former Marine told me long ago that humor was among the tools non-coms used.
If Bubbles wasn't a NCO she was being groomed for promotion.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 01 Apr 2019, 11:49
I'm taking that to mean that Bubbles did pack a sensible wrap with light protein! (When presented with options, I tend to go for the clean option.)

I've never been in the military or been close to anyone who was, but I suppose a certain type of joke gets very old very fast. I imagine humour is extremely important in military relationships, and it must keep evolving.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SordidEuphemism on 01 Apr 2019, 11:55
I'm taking that to mean that Bubbles did pack a sensible wrap with light protein! (When presented with options, I tend to go for the clean option.)

I've never been in the military or been close to anyone who was, but I suppose a certain type of joke gets very old very fast. I imagine humour is extremely important in military relationships, and it must keep evolving.

The puns. My god. The puns. I have several relatives, including my father, in/retired from the Navy (and other, lesser armed forces) and the 'bored guy doing repetitive job keeping his mind active' leads to some of the absolutely worst, groan-worthy punning. It's a delight.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Thrudd on 01 Apr 2019, 13:29
On the prank front

Didn't pull either at the office this year but was an instigator at someone else's by giving them ideas.
(click to show/hide)

With respect to librarian positions

Commercial publishers also have libraries of still photos, filler stories, artwork, ad copy, various media.
Same goes for companies that work in media or marketing.
These days there are also just raw files on desktops or servers, placed in various user folders as well as the general directory where you are no supposed to save anything, that need to be moved, renamed, indexed and archived.
(click to show/hide)

On the sensible lunch option
I can never understand these diet fads and their twisting of language by marketing types
Light protein - what does that even mean?
Clean option - does that imply that contaminated lunches are standard and clean is an option?
I tried a quick lookup on healthy exam foods but the first few pages were all blogs and commercial diet sites and I don't have the energy to dig deep enough to find actual nutritional information not contaminated by pseudoscience or marketing or both.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 01 Apr 2019, 13:49
I can never understand these things either.

ETA: I suppose I'm thinking of some lean steak with some beetroot and rocket in a wrap?

And some mayonnaise or something. I mean, come on. ETA: I've gone over to chatter with my amazing sandwich recipe.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 01 Apr 2019, 19:32
 New comic up. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Apr 2019, 20:00
Classic story about exam food (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cakes-and-ale/)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Apr 2019, 20:01
Yeah, that last tar-and-feathering made national headlines. Turned out it was one of the Kennedys.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Apr 2019, 23:11
Marten and Claire are very cute together aren't they? I'm pretty sure that they're in for the long run now. They've reached this level of comfortable with each other where they aren't treading on eggshells but can tease and unseriously mock without fear of offence

I'm also pretty sure that it's pretty much in-character for Marten that losing a school library book way back when has inspired him to research quantum dynamics to see if he can convince himself that a book can exist both on the shelf and with a lendee without violating some law of physics! Mr Marten Neurosis Reed, ladies and gentlemen!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 01 Apr 2019, 23:54
I've never been in the military or been close to anyone who was, but I suppose a certain type of joke gets very old very fast. I imagine humour is extremely important in military relationships, and it must keep evolving.
In the US military a good joke or prank is nearly immortal.  There's a constant turn-over of personnel and the victim can always look forward to pulling it on some poor Sad Sack who takes their place as the newbie, so classics are constantly recycled.  For example, the Air Force and aviation branches of the other services all take fiendish delight in sending new arrivals for ten gallons of prop wash or a few hundred feet of flight line.  There's a female civilian employee at many facilities named Ms H. Wate, usually in the supply or personal equipment section.  Noobs and even others who become a little too impatient to obtain a popular given item or items of issue will be told to go to Helen Wate.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hakko504 on 02 Apr 2019, 00:54
Noobs and even others who become a little too impatient to obtain a popular given item or items of issue will be told to go to Helen Wate.
I assume she's a (distant) relative of Michael Hunt?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 02 Apr 2019, 01:08
Is taring and feathering some kind of tradition? We don't do that on our side of the Atlantic. Well I sure heard about it in comics or western movies, but it really seems kind of unhealthy, or even deadly. Isn't the tar hot? Can such an ordeal be survived?

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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2019, 01:46
Tarring and feathering is a traditional US means for communities to express extreme disapproval of certain individuals who have caused (or are believed to be causing or likely to cause) great harm to the community. Traditionally, it's aimed at con-artists and persistent low-level troublemakers. However, it can also be targetted at unpopular travelling preachers, vagrants and members of minorities that the community rejects.

Yes, it is dangerous and can be deadly. The tar will cause body-wide burns and people have lost large chunks of skin and been permanently scarred and crippled. Think of it as a method of lynching that is not at least intended to be lethal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 02 Apr 2019, 02:36
Ok, after a quick search, it seems that we do that on this side of the Atlantic, too. The last reported case was in Ireland in 2007...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Case on 02 Apr 2019, 04:33
Yes, it is dangerous and can be deadly. The tar will cause body-wide burns and people have lost large chunks of skin and been permanently scarred and crippled. Think of it as a method of lynching that is not at least intended to be lethal.

Nope, they used wood-tar rather than bitumen - the former is viscous at room temperatures.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 02 Apr 2019, 04:38
Yes, it is dangerous and can be deadly. The tar will cause body-wide burns and people have lost large chunks of skin and been permanently scarred and crippled. Think of it as a method of lynching that is not at least intended to be lethal.

Nope, they used wood-tar rather than bitumen - the former is viscous at room temperatures.

Still hurts like a bitch unless you use solvent and/or heat/warmth to remove it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Case on 02 Apr 2019, 04:56
Yes, it is dangerous and can be deadly. The tar will cause body-wide burns and people have lost large chunks of skin and been permanently scarred and crippled. Think of it as a method of lynching that is not at least intended to be lethal.

Nope, they used wood-tar rather than bitumen - the former is viscous at room temperatures.

Still hurts like a bitch unless you use solvent and/or heat/warmth to remove it.

And here I was thinking of it as harmless fun for the family ...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 02 Apr 2019, 05:08
Yes, it is dangerous and can be deadly. The tar will cause body-wide burns and people have lost large chunks of skin and been permanently scarred and crippled. Think of it as a method of lynching that is not at least intended to be lethal.

Nope, they used wood-tar rather than bitumen - the former is viscous at room temperatures.

Still hurts like a bitch unless you use solvent and/or heat/warmth to remove it.

Well yeah, it was an incredibly cruel form of punishment. It was public torture and humiliation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Cornelius on 02 Apr 2019, 07:10
Also, even when you get most of it off, it'll take weeks before it's entirely gone. Some one I know well, crewed on a traditional tall ship. Tarring the rigging is just simple upkeep and maintenance; however, tarred rigging in a hot summer means every one gets more or less tarred.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 Apr 2019, 07:38
>ten gallons of prop wash or a few hundred feet of flight line.

Back when radios used vacuum tubes, the junior guy in a Signal Corps team was sent to Supply to get a Fallopian tube.

It's not just in the service. When my prison pen pal had a job in the warehouse there, her boss would tell her to bring him things like a pallet repair kit or a Fahrenheit compensator.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Thrudd on 02 Apr 2019, 08:31
Don't forget the classic car engine part know as a Henway.

What's a Henway you may ask?

About 2 pounds.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 02 Apr 2019, 08:40
Talking of April Fools .. (yes we were!!!!))  Minecraft did a fun one.
It's still up on their launcher.

(click to show/hide)

:)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hedgie on 02 Apr 2019, 09:30
Ingress did a rather silly one, where every set of glyphs included one called "toast" that hitherto had not existed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 02 Apr 2019, 10:34
Learning quite a bit about pranks and tar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 02 Apr 2019, 14:51
Stackoverflow had a somewhat annoying one - unicorns, 90s design and a sparkly mouse trail.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: War Sparrow on 02 Apr 2019, 14:54
I simultaneously loved Stackoverflow's, and found it annoying as hell.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 02 Apr 2019, 15:05
I simultaneously loved Stackoverflow's, and found it annoying as hell.

Annoyingly glorious, yes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 02 Apr 2019, 19:12
I hadn't seen it (I never seem to find these things), so I found a YouTube video on it.

That was great. The glittery mouse trail, under construction, comic sans, the terrible tiled background image. The terrible welcome-to-our-website banner. Big changes for Y2K! Only thing missing was a "best viewed in IE" graphic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 02 Apr 2019, 19:26
Welp, here we go.  Good to see Crushbot is trying to move past his past and turn over a new leaf. 

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: shanejayell on 02 Apr 2019, 20:24
Poor Crushbot.

Random thought: can robots cheat on tests via wifi internet access? Do QC testing areas have wireless scramblers to prevent that?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hedgie on 02 Apr 2019, 20:30
Depending on how much local storage he has, wifi might not even matter.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 02 Apr 2019, 22:24
"Tarring & Feathering" was (and is) somewhat of an ad-hoc effort.  It's kind of lynching lite and isn't supposed to result in any fatalities or permanent injuries.  I recall one tale of a fellow in the US Midwest in the 1920s or '30s who the narrator claimed to have seen receive the treatment.  Seems he arrived in town saying he represented a prospecting firm and they were sure their was oil in the area, and they only needed the villagers' help raising capital for the well that would most certainly make them all rich.  Poor fellow didn't know his older cousin had come through a couple years earlier running the same scam.  Aside from the very abbreviate form of due process applied, I find it difficult to generate much sympathy for the recipients of the treatment in those few accounts I've read or heard stories of.

If there's a tar & feathers manual, I've never located a copy.  I imagine they used whatever they had at hand that was sufficiently sticky.  (I may or may not have first hand knowledge of a bottle or so of Br'er Rabbit (https://cdn0.rubylane.com/_pod/item/1318289/0712/1940x7827s-x7822Brer-Rabbitx7822-Cooking-Molasses-Tin-full-7o-720-29-l-e2dbbe-ffffff.jpg) molasses being pressed into service.)  I understand that sawdust and planer shavings or even dust bunnies from under the dorm common room sofa can make a decent substitute for feathers.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 02 Apr 2019, 22:52
If there's a tar & feathers manual, I've never located a copy.

Let me help you out there (https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-setup-twitter-search-hashtag-and-login-help/).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2019, 23:15
Poor Crushbot! However, as good as it is to have a dream, you've got to make sure that you're going about it the right way or you're just setting yourself up for failure and embarrassment, the way Crushbot did here!

I do love the way Jeph occasionally does a strip to remind us of how weird 'reality' is in his fictional Northampton. A girl dressed as a fairy having a one-woman parade in the streets and a demolition robot who wants to be a librarian are just parts of that psychedelic landscape!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 02 Apr 2019, 23:17
If there's a tar & feathers manual, I've never located a copy.

Let me help you out there (https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-setup-twitter-search-hashtag-and-login-help/).
Seems to be a link for how to use twitter
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 02 Apr 2019, 23:52
That's the joke.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 03 Apr 2019, 01:01
A blue and pink tie, on yellow? Seriously, Crushbot?

On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Apr 2019, 01:36
On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?

AIs' minds work very much like those of humans. Whilst they can download data, they can only read it back as if it were an electronic book. They do not have the ability to automatically use that data in a practical way until they have applied it a few times in the actual real world. In essence, they can download the manuals but, because of the way they work, they're not really skills, just raw information that may not actually mean anything to them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 03 Apr 2019, 02:55
Seems to be a link for how to use twitter

That's the joke.

Dammit, I left off the jokingnotjoking hashtag again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 03 Apr 2019, 05:45
There are varying accounts from the middle ages but during the US revolution Pine Tar was used, not the "tar" most people think now with road crews and asphalt (syrup and cat tails were used if supplies were nto available).  But the Pine Tar was heated, boils around 135-145 degrees which isn't too bad, but considering back in the old days it would be heated by camp fire or Franklin Stove, don't know how accurate you're going to get the temperature.  Some accounts make no mention of the application, while others mention boiling and blistering of the skin on application. 

One of the most brutal accounts on record though was the Second tarring and feathering of John Malcolm.  Ship Captain, British Officer, British Loyalist and Customs official who very much loved his job.  The first time he was tarred and feathered it was over his clothing which is considered a more "gentle" act of public humiliation and punishment.  The second one was quite different.  He was witnessed in an altercation with a young boy and threatened to strike him with his cane.  A local Patriot shoemaker, George Hewes, intervened.  Malcolm told him to stay out of it and "Not to interfere in the business of a Gentleman".  Hewes replied that at least he had never been tarred and feathered, to which Malcolm struck him in the forehead with his cane and knocked him cold. 

Now John Malcolm wasn't the most liked guy.  He had traveled North Carolina during the War of the Regulation.  Kind of a Revolutionary War "light", lasting from 1765 to 1771 where North Carolina citizens took up arms against what they viewed as corrupt officials.  John Malcolm took great pleasure in subduing some of the uprisings, adding in his tax collection and customs work and the all around general reports of how much he loved doing his work...  Well, not going to make you many friends in places like the Colonies. 

Later that night after he knocked out Hewes an angry mob formed outside his house.  Rather then back down he egged the crowd on, shouting "You say I was tarred and feathered, and that it was not done in a proper manner, damn you let me see the man that dare do it better!”.  The mob was agitated by that, partly due to a previous occurrence where another British Customs officer had killed an 11 year old boy and escaped punishment due to a Royal Pardon.  So, frustrated even more they most likely decided to take that frustration out on him.

He was taken from his home, stripped to the waist and marched to King Street.  Hot tar and feathers were applied and then he was marched to the Liberty Tree and ordered to apologize for his actions and also renounce his commission.  He refused, even when a noose was placed around his neck and he was threatened with Hanging.  He again refused, reportedly relenting only when the mob threatened to cut off his ears. 

I'll put the next part in spoilers since it's a bit on the gruesome side and not many want to read things like that
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 03 Apr 2019, 07:10
On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?

AIs' minds work very much like those of humans. Whilst they can download data, they can only read it back as if it were an electronic book. They do not have the ability to automatically use that data in a practical way until they have applied it a few times in the actual real world. In essence, they can download the manuals but, because of the way they work, they're not really skills, just raw information that may not actually mean anything to them.

Here is the thing though... I can't remember ever seeing an AI at the school as a student. When you consider how much the town and the comic revolve around the school it is a bit odd that the only AI we have seen associated with it is Momo working in the library. On the other side though there are a lot of AI working in the city in other jobs.  Sure they could get work at the bot cafe or chassis sales store without any kind of official training. Some can come from on the job or picked up skills, like Roko's police officer career, or Bubble's mechanical skill. But there are those who need schooling and accreditation like Punchbot being a CPA.

So all things being the same, we should have seen at least the occasional AI student over the years. The fact that we haven't says that either it's been a mild oversight on Jeph's part, or AI do not actually learn like human, or at least don't have to. There might be shortened courses for AI that can just download all the materials needed and then if it requires do the lab work and test to prove their proficiency before hitting the work force.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 03 Apr 2019, 08:05
On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?

AIs' minds work very much like those of humans. Whilst they can download data, they can only read it back as if it were an electronic book. They do not have the ability to automatically use that data in a practical way until they have applied it a few times in the actual real world. In essence, they can download the manuals but, because of the way they work, they're not really skills, just raw information that may not actually mean anything to them.

So they can't even do what a simple human can do in Matrix? How disappointing...

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Apr 2019, 13:18
If there's a tar & feathers manual, I've never located a copy.

Let me help you out there (https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-setup-twitter-search-hashtag-and-login-help/).
That covers the feathers part.  ;)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Apr 2019, 13:25
On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?

AIs' minds work very much like those of humans. Whilst they can download data, they can only read it back as if it were an electronic book. They do not have the ability to automatically use that data in a practical way until they have applied it a few times in the actual real world. In essence, they can download the manuals but, because of the way they work, they're not really skills, just raw information that may not actually mean anything to them.

Here is the thing though... I can't remember ever seeing an AI at the school as a student. When you consider how much the town and the comic revolve around the school it is a bit odd that the only AI we have seen associated with it is Momo working in the library. On the other side though there are a lot of AI working in the city in other jobs.  Sure they could get work at the bot cafe or chassis sales store without any kind of official training. Some can come from on the job or picked up skills, like Roko's police officer career, or Bubble's mechanical skill. But there are those who need schooling and accreditation like Punchbot being a CPA.

So all things being the same, we should have seen at least the occasional AI student over the years. The fact that we haven't says that either it's been a mild oversight on Jeph's part, or AI do not actually learn like human, or at least don't have to. There might be shortened courses for AI that can just download all the materials needed and then if it requires do the lab work and test to prove their proficiency before hitting the work force.
Perhaps some of those we've have gone directly into internship programs having completed their academic downloads.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Apr 2019, 13:28
Aside from the very abbreviate form of due process applied, I find it difficult to generate much sympathy for the recipients of the treatment in those few accounts I've read or heard stories of.

Disagree in the strongest possible terms, but then we're into the criminal justice/prison policies thread.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 03 Apr 2019, 15:47
Here is the thing though... I can't remember ever seeing an AI at the school as a student. When you consider how much the town and the comic revolve around the school it is a bit odd that the only AI we have seen associated with it is Momo working in the library.

For a comic that supposedly revolves around a school, the cast is not exactly teeming with students, is it? I'd say it revolves around a school like it revolves around indie music.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Apr 2019, 15:47
Certainly I would take Claire's side if she were tarred and feathered over her performance on the examination.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Apr 2019, 17:34
That's the joke.
Just got in an argument with someone who somehow can't tell the difference between the Far Left and anarchism, so Icll take that as to the explanation of the joke.

No, I'm not going to get into that. This is the wrong thread.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Apr 2019, 17:43
*Snip*

Here is the thing though... I can't remember ever seeing an AI at the school as a student. When you consider how much the town and the comic revolve around the school it is a bit odd that the only AI we have seen associated with it is Momo working in the library. On the other side though there are a lot of AI working in the city in other jobs.  Sure they could get work at the bot cafe or chassis sales store without any kind of official training. Some can come from on the job or picked up skills, like Roko's police officer career, or Bubble's mechanical skill. But there are those who need schooling and accreditation like Punchbot being a CPA.

So all things being the same, we should have seen at least the occasional AI student over the years. The fact that we haven't says that either it's been a mild oversight on Jeph's part, or AI do not actually learn like human, or at least don't have to. There might be shortened courses for AI that can just download all the materials needed and then if it requires do the lab work and test to prove their proficiency before hitting the work force.

Hmmm.....does one of these three (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,4954.msg1424463.html#msg1424463) look like a student?
Durian sort of has an oddball inventor vibe to her outfit.

EDIT: snip. Also, Lemon would need a Bachelors degree in psychology to be a counselor, wouldn't she?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 03 Apr 2019, 19:20
That was great. The glittery mouse trail, under construction, comic sans, the terrible tiled background image. The terrible welcome-to-our-website banner. Big changes for Y2K! Only thing missing was a "best viewed in IE" graphic.
ITYM "Best viewed in Netscape Navigator 4 or above", in that era.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: shanejayell on 03 Apr 2019, 20:06
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hedgie on 03 Apr 2019, 20:11
Especially when one has been drinking rather heavily, and the blood doesn’t clot so well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 03 Apr 2019, 20:14
Do it, Marten!     It won't hurt much, and it'll up your "He's so noble" quotient.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: macloud on 03 Apr 2019, 20:29
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

It is - the reason why athame [a ceremonial dagger] are blunted is that in traditional witchcraft blood is seen as unclean and the spillng of blood in a ritual will contaminate and ruin the ritual - worse even bringing evil spirits to subvert the object of the ritual.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mordhaus on 03 Apr 2019, 20:54
What if crushbot accidentally crushes claire and the spell puts her into a robot body?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cesium133 on 03 Apr 2019, 21:00
"Sorry, the only chassis we have on hand at the moment is this one that was crushed by a giant robot. I hear it has good sensitivity to bread."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 03 Apr 2019, 21:09
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 03 Apr 2019, 21:13
I think Dora has been spending too much time around Emily.  The weirdness is starting to sink in.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Near Lurker on 03 Apr 2019, 22:40
We're building to an epic showdown of magic and science.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Apr 2019, 23:13
Remember, Dora, magic always has its price! In this case, the price would be a trip to the ER for Marten and a serious clean-up bill for the counter area!

New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD...

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Very, very evil and psychopathic non-human and immaterial intelligences whose idea of 'fun' is to either make a meat puppet of you and torment you on a psychic level until you go insane.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 03 Apr 2019, 23:25
Aside from the very abbreviate form of due process applied, I find it difficult to generate much sympathy for the recipients of the treatment in those few accounts I've read or heard stories of.

Disagree in the strongest possible terms, but then we're into the criminal justice/prison policies thread.
You disagree with my subjective response to a story?  Interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mordhaus on 04 Apr 2019, 00:26
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously, and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Milayna on 04 Apr 2019, 00:37
On a more serious note, do AIs need to take classes (and pass exams), or can they just download the needed knowledge?

AIs' minds work very much like those of humans. Whilst they can download data, they can only read it back as if it were an electronic book. They do not have the ability to automatically use that data in a practical way until they have applied it a few times in the actual real world. In essence, they can download the manuals but, because of the way they work, they're not really skills, just raw information that may not actually mean anything to them.

Here is the thing though... I can't remember ever seeing an AI at the school as a student. When you consider how much the town and the comic revolve around the school it is a bit odd that the only AI we have seen associated with it is Momo working in the library. On the other side though there are a lot of AI working in the city in other jobs.  Sure they could get work at the bot cafe or chassis sales store without any kind of official training. Some can come from on the job or picked up skills, like Roko's police officer career, or Bubble's mechanical skill. But there are those who need schooling and accreditation like Punchbot being a CPA.

So all things being the same, we should have seen at least the occasional AI student over the years. The fact that we haven't says that either it's been a mild oversight on Jeph's part, or AI do not actually learn like human, or at least don't have to. There might be shortened courses for AI that can just download all the materials needed and then if it requires do the lab work and test to prove their proficiency before hitting the work force.
Or that AI's role in the world has expanded in that time. I'm not sure if that's canon or not but I've always assumed it is. AI lifeforms have only arisen in the past few decades, after all. How old is Hanners' dad again? In the start of the comic their presence was nominal at best, existing as cute companions. Obviously there was more - such as Station and Bubbles - and the increasing AI presence in the comic (in number of appearances humanoid/varied forms, and economic roles) obviously reflects Jeph's decision to focus more on that story. But in-comic, I've been taking it as a given that AI presence in general has expanded within the past few canon-years.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Cornelius on 04 Apr 2019, 01:09
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously, and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 04 Apr 2019, 01:10


Or that AI's role in the world has expanded in that time. I'm not sure if that's canon or not but I've always assumed it is. AI lifeforms have only arisen in the past few decades, after all. How old is Hanners' dad again? <snip>

Hanners, Marten and marigold went to the party held for his  56th birthday (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2129), and I believe there were at least two winters in between then and now. It's safe to say he's in his late 50s now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Apr 2019, 01:25
I'm wondering if some AIs are seriously debating and meditating on how to prevent the inevitable breakdown of his body from losing them access to 'the Creator's wisdom'?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 04 Apr 2019, 01:29
Dora looks scary...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Akima on 04 Apr 2019, 04:29
Kris Kristopherson? That pun is cutting edge. I am tantolised that I didn't think of it. Jeph should take a bowie.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2019, 05:14
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Generally speaking you don't want to perform blood magic because its not something you want to do a whim. But because Wicca is a practice filled with symbolism, blood is sometimes avoided because of the darker symbolism; death, battle. Then again, blood can also symbolise life and can be used in certain rituals can provide power. If blood is used in any ritual, its usually extracted with a lancet, the kind used for blood sugar testing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Apr 2019, 07:47
For a comic that supposedly revolves around a school, the cast is not exactly teeming with students, is it? I'd say it revolves around a school like it revolves around indie music.
School? I thot it revolved around a coffee shop.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 04 Apr 2019, 08:55
For a comic that supposedly revolves around a school, the cast is not exactly teeming with students, is it? I'd say it revolves around a school like it revolves around indie music.
School? I thot it revolved around a coffee shop.

begone, thought!

School never as much as indie music and coffee shop(s)/bakeries
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mordhaus on 04 Apr 2019, 09:24
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Generally speaking you don't want to perform blood magic because its not something you want to do a whim. But because Wicca is a practice filled with symbolism, blood is sometimes avoided because of the darker symbolism; death, battle. Then again, blood can also symbolise life and can be used in certain rituals can provide power. If blood is used in any ritual, its usually extracted with a lancet, the kind used for blood sugar testing.

Thankfully magic isn't real. :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SpanielBear on 04 Apr 2019, 09:35
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Generally speaking you don't want to perform blood magic because its not something you want to do a whim. But because Wicca is a practice filled with symbolism, blood is sometimes avoided because of the darker symbolism; death, battle. Then again, blood can also symbolise life and can be used in certain rituals can provide power. If blood is used in any ritual, its usually extracted with a lancet, the kind used for blood sugar testing.

Thankfully magic isn't real. :evil:

Magick, however...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2019, 09:54
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Generally speaking you don't want to perform blood magic because its not something you want to do a whim. But because Wicca is a practice filled with symbolism, blood is sometimes avoided because of the darker symbolism; death, battle. Then again, blood can also symbolise life and can be used in certain rituals can provide power. If blood is used in any ritual, its usually extracted with a lancet, the kind used for blood sugar testing.

Thankfully magic isn't real. :evil:

And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5.

Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 04 Apr 2019, 11:48
New comic.

I thought blood & magic was usually considered BAD....

I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"

Generally speaking you don't want to perform blood magic because its not something you want to do a whim. But because Wicca is a practice filled with symbolism, blood is sometimes avoided because of the darker symbolism; death, battle. Then again, blood can also symbolise life and can be used in certain rituals can provide power. If blood is used in any ritual, its usually extracted with a lancet, the kind used for blood sugar testing.

Thankfully magic isn't real. :evil:

And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5.

Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.


Any technology advanced far enough is indistinguishable from magic. the
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Apr 2019, 12:54
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2019, 13:02
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.

You know, the difference between belief and religion is the number of people who follow it. For example, Christianity has built up a religion around the idea that a man died and came back to life. And such a notion might sound ridiculous to an outsider.

So, just a friendly reminder that you're walking a very thin line.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Apr 2019, 14:21
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.

You know, the difference between belief and religion is the number of people who follow it. For example, Christianity has built up a religion around the idea that a man died and came back to life. And such a notion might sound ridiculous to an outsider.

So, just a friendly reminder that you're walking a very thin line.
I stand by my words. Firmly. No exceptions for ridiculous beliefs held by millions or billions. Ridiculous is ridiculous.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Apr 2019, 14:51
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.

You know, the difference between belief and religion is the number of people who follow it. For example, Christianity has built up a religion around the idea that a man died and came back to life. And such a notion might sound ridiculous to an outsider.

So, just a friendly reminder that you're walking a very thin line.
I stand by my words. Firmly. No exceptions for ridiculous beliefs held by millions or billions. Ridiculous is ridiculous.

Your viewpoint is your own to hold, but please remember that on this forum religious beliefs are treated with respect.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: KOODustin on 04 Apr 2019, 18:59
Man, I have REALLY missed interplay between the original characters.  It feels like Marten, Faye, and Dora's relationship has kinda taken the backseat.  It feels pretty good to see them interacting again!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cesium133 on 04 Apr 2019, 19:00
Last weekend I got my hair cut. As the lady was cutting my hair, I picked up some and noticed that it was a lot grayer than it used to be. She notices me doing this, and she told me, "Oh, don't worry. It's only 40% gray."

FORTY PERCENT!?  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Apr 2019, 19:20
And in that moment, I am Marten.

Totally ignoring my heavily grey temples.

Because its not grey.

Nope. No grey.

THERE'S NO GREY!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 04 Apr 2019, 19:29
Meh.. I started going grey in my early 40's.  But it can be disconcerting if it happens in your 20's.  Can Marten get grecian formula and use it on the Down low?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Wombt on 04 Apr 2019, 19:38
Meh.. I started going grey in my early 40's.  But it can be disconcerting if it happens in your 20's.  Can Marten get grecian formula and use it on the Down low?
I'm In my twenties and starting to get grey hairs, but it doesn't really bother me. It's not a high percentage of my hair yet, so maybe that will change, but for now I'm pretty "eh" about it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Storel on 04 Apr 2019, 19:58
For some reason, the first place I started getting gray hairs was in my chest hairs, sometime in my 30s. Then my beard started going gray in my 40s, and now in my mid-50s my head hair is still at least 95% un-gray. So apparently I take after my father, who never had a beard but started going gray at the temples (i.e., top of the beard/sideburns) in his 40s, and still had salt-and-pepper hair (maybe 60% gray?) when he died at 74. Perhaps I will live long enough to find out when our hair goes fully gray.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 04 Apr 2019, 20:17
To facilitate access to knowledge is truly a noble task. I commend Crushbot on his new aspiration. Crush all obstacles standing in the way of acquiring and sharing knowledge!

(Celebrate National Library Week 2019:  April 7-13)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: shanejayell on 04 Apr 2019, 20:26
*lost hair young, so grey bothered me less*

Tho I got that too.

 :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 Apr 2019, 20:39
Looking at my individual hairs, I'm not sure I could identify a grey one...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Apr 2019, 21:09
I've had gray hairs since I was 16, Martin. Calm down.

I started getting some golden blond and copper hairs during my 20s. It's weird.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Apr 2019, 21:20
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.
I take it you're a 'gnostic atheist'[1], then?
To each their own so long as they aren't being a dick about it. And, so long as you aren't one of the ones that treats science like a religion.[2]

EDIT: [1]'Gnostic' in the sense that you are quite certain in your disbelief of (a) higher power(s).
[2]i.e. clinging onto outmoded paradigms, never questioning findings, and the like
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 04 Apr 2019, 21:56
I'm in my mid 30s now, and I started noticing grey hairs a few months ago. Like it haf to be under certain conditions of fluorescent lights to be visible. A month ago I realised, I'd probably look good turning gray, since it was more than like five individual gray hairs.
Funnily, this week I realised the grey is showing even under natural light. Although I always thought it'd be my beard going gray first, but that bugger doesn't seem to be affected as much.

And, as far as I can tell, I'm early about this in my family. Both my parents retained their hair color into their 70s, with my mom showing gray temples more than may dad.


A friend of mine got her first gray hairs when she was like 25, but that was stress related. Also, she's used to dyeing her hair anyway, so it doesn't matter much (but since hair natural color is more of a darker shade of brown, even single gray hairs may show really well).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Apr 2019, 23:12
I deeply empathise with Marten. I started going bald in my early 30s but I was strongly in denial. It was just thinning and a receding front fringe! Then I saw my head from above on  CCTV feed and I realised that, yes, I was bald. That was a hard blow.

So, yeah, you're getting old Marten. It happens to all of us. Your dad proved that you're likely to go all steel grey although if you take more after your mum, maybe you'll go closer to silver. I'm sure that Claire will consider it attractive but I think that you want to avoid too much neurotic denial. Take it from me that it doesn't do any good!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Corvid on 04 Apr 2019, 23:40
For whatever reason, I only noticed the more expressive thicker line art style in today's comic. Looking back it's been like this for a while, but for whatever reason when I think of QCs art my mind goes to how it looked circa 2011  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 05 Apr 2019, 00:08
I've had gray hairs since I was 16, Martin. Calm down.

I started getting some golden blond and copper hairs during my 20s. It's weird.

Yeah, I found my first at 18 and have had multiple friends who found their first at 17. Graying: it's not just for the olds, lmao.

I actually still only have a scattered few at 30, so mine is going quite slowly. I've always envied folks like Stacy London who got a strong defined white streak in her teens. How fucking BADASS would that look?? Why couldn't my genetics turn me into Rogue????
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Milayna on 05 Apr 2019, 00:23
Better than balding at 22 and being over halfway to Greg Universe at 30.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2019, 00:33
Whether or not magic(k) exists depends on how one defines the word, and rarely does anyone bother to define it before opining on its existence  (and the same is true of belief in God).  One of the more useful definitions of magick I've seen is "the ability to effect change."

Either way, I'm not sure letting one's ex have a hair or a bit of blood for spellwork regarding one's beloved is a good idea.  What if Dora is possessed by a berbalang (https://esoterx.com/2016/06/15/berbalang-blues-the-elusive-ghouls-of-cagayan-sulu/)?  But I suppose in that case she wouldn't want anything to do with a kris.

In re gray hair - I have very few if any gray hairs on my scalp, and the general population up there is only slightly reduced from a few years ago.  My beard, on the other hand, is another matter.  I used to be able to call it "salt-&-pepper" but the specks of pepper are few and far between these days.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: pecoros7 on 05 Apr 2019, 00:46
Do I believe in magic? No.
Do other people believe in it or something similar? Yes.
Should it be dismissed out of hand? No.
Should it and those beliefs be treated with respect? Yes.
Disagree strongly. The proper reaction to ridiculous beliefs, is ridicule.

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ridiculous adjective
ri·​dic·​u·​lous | \ rə-ˈdi-kyə-ləs  \
Definition of ridiculous
: arousing or deserving ridicule

To say a ridiculous idea deserves ridicule is a tautology, no? And to say that anything deserves ridicule is fraught with subjectivity.

The thing that I love about this forum (and Jeph's comic) is the commitment to the idea that people deserve a place where they are safe so long as they do no harm. And part of that is leaving people to their ideas no matter how wrong I may think they are as long as those ideas don't promote harm to me or others. So when it comes to ridicule, I would like to politely suggest that you keep it to yourself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hakko504 on 05 Apr 2019, 00:54
My maternal grandfather went mostly bald when he was 19 and when he died at 92 his few remaining hairs still hand't turned completely gray...
My father and me both started the process in our mid 30s and had it completed less than a decade later. A cousin though went gray, if not overnight, but within 6 months from dark brown to full gray.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 05 Apr 2019, 00:57
I deeply empathise with Marten. I started going bald in my early 30s but I was strongly in denial. It was just thinning and a receding front fringe! Then I saw my head from above on  CCTV feed and I realised that, yes, I was bald. That was a hard blow.

So, yeah, you're getting old Marten. It happens to all of us. Your dad proved that you're likely to go all steel grey although if you take more after your mum, maybe you'll go closer to silver. I'm sure that Claire will consider it attractive but I think that you want to avoid too much neurotic denial. Take it from me that it doesn't do any good!

When I first found several gray hairs whilst looking in the mirror, I decided graying hair suits me, and I can "grow old" with dignity. It's weird, because I know a lot of people would go "oh my God! gray hair, I'm too young for that!", but I just don't care. My looks are ruined more by bed hair than graying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 05 Apr 2019, 01:15
I deeply empathise with Marten. I started going bald in my early 30s but I was strongly in denial. It was just thinning and a receding front fringe! Then I saw my head from above on  CCTV feed and I realised that, yes, I was bald. That was a hard blow.

So, yeah, you're getting old Marten. It happens to all of us. Your dad proved that you're likely to go all steel grey although if you take more after your mum, maybe you'll go closer to silver. I'm sure that Claire will consider it attractive but I think that you want to avoid too much neurotic denial. Take it from me that it doesn't do any good!

Actually, getting old only happens to those who are lucky. Because there is actually a way to avoid aging: dying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 05 Apr 2019, 01:38
Actually, getting old only happens to those who are lucky. Because there is actually a way to avoid aging: dying.

Death is always an option, but never the only one, and in the vast majority not a desirable choice. Sometimes it just can't be helped, especially when growing old.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 05 Apr 2019, 02:37
Actually, getting old only happens to those who are lucky. Because there is actually a way to avoid aging: dying.

Death is always an option, but never the only one, and in the vast majority not a desirable choice. Sometimes it just can't be helped, especially when growing old.

"On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero", Chuck Palahniuk
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Apr 2019, 03:33
I would encourage Marten to recall how Claire reacted the first time she saw Marten’s dad. She didn’t think Henry’s grey hair was a turn-off at all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Apr 2019, 03:34
FWIW, I don't think it's the 'going grey' that worries Marten at all. I think that it's the whole 'no longer a carefree tween' bit. Notice how Claire had to drag him, kicking and screaming, to open a savings account. There is a part of him that really, really doesn't want to look over the line into his 30s.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hakko504 on 05 Apr 2019, 04:14
I would encourage Marten to recall how Claire reacted the first time she saw Marten’s dad. She didn’t think Henry’s grey hair was a turn-off at all.
Claire meeting Henry for the first time was rather embarassing (2380) (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2380) though I think it's Dora's reaction you think of as she specifically mentions that Marten would look wonderful in gray hair. (1515) (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1515)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 05 Apr 2019, 05:38
Social delousing by humans...

I got my first grey hair when I was 12. It was the only one for a looooong time. Then, at 30, I started to really get grey hair, and now, at 45, I have grey temples and visible grey hair. That's how are things. What can I do except accept it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Apr 2019, 06:28
Do you not accept it? You relaying of the information seems pretty matter of fact.

Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Castlerook on 05 Apr 2019, 06:48
Conversely, people who become bald tend to have a timeless quality, whereas someone, like myself, who has been going grey since their late 20s, that grey adds years and not in a fun way. Its not necessarily the grey they worry about, I think, but rather the salt and pepper effect that comes with it. A solid grey look can and does look far, far better than bits of grey here and there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 05 Apr 2019, 06:48
I take it you're a 'gnostic atheist'[1], then?
To each their own so long as they aren't being a dick about it. And, so long as you aren't one of the ones that treats science like a religion.[2]

EDIT: [1]'Gnostic' in the sense that you are quite certain in your disbelief of (a) higher power(s).
[2]i.e. clinging onto outmoded paradigms, never questioning findings, and the like
[1] If one must apply labels, that one fits. But also materialist as well as atheist - No belief in anything spiritual/supernatural.
[2] well, natch... The whole point of science is that you revise your worldview in the face of compelling new evidence.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 05 Apr 2019, 06:50
I had a forelock turn white in my early 20s, and have been steadily greying on the sides ever since. I'll be 50 in July.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 05 Apr 2019, 06:54
Whether or not magic(k) exists depends on how one defines the word, and rarely does anyone bother to define it before opining on its existence  (and the same is true of belief in God).  One of the more useful definitions of magick I've seen is "the ability to effect change."
I used to be an enthusiast of Aleister Crowley, who defined it as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with the Will."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hedgie on 05 Apr 2019, 06:59
Social delousing by humans...

I got my first grey hair when I was 12. It was the only one for a looooong time. Then, at 30, I started to really get grey hair, and now, at 45, I have grey temples and visible grey hair. That's how are things. What can I do except accept it?

That reminds me that it's time again to dye away the skunk stripe.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: DSL on 05 Apr 2019, 07:18
I earned every damn one of my gray hairs. That's what I'd tell the office brats when they'd gleefully make note of my increasing cranial albedo. For further effect, I'd point to no hair in particular and say: "You gave me this one."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2019, 07:43
"On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero", Chuck Palahniuk
"Don't take life too seriously, you're not going to make it out alive anyhow."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: traroth on 05 Apr 2019, 08:31
Do you not accept it? You relaying of the information seems pretty matter of fact.

Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.

Actually, I don't really care. I try to not care about things I can't change, and it really worked in that case. I think it's because it doesn't disrupt my everyday life...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 05 Apr 2019, 08:47

I think I'm just gonna enjoy the comics, while thinking of this character as Dorily...

Cos they are becoming pretty similar (and the art on Dora looks well weird when compared to Marten... almost like a guest artist is drawing Dorily) ;)

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Theta9 on 05 Apr 2019, 09:11
That reminds me that it's time again to dye away the skunk stripe.
:-o what? If my white were in the form of a "skunk stripe" I would ROCK THAT SHIT OUT. I used to get silver-colored hair spray specifically to put such a stripe in my hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: AnchovyJovi on 05 Apr 2019, 09:13
It's funny part of me enjoys my gray hair but another part of me is worried about getting older in general.

Like when I see gray hairs in my friends I always compliment them about them even if they don't like them, Thus I don't generally mind mine. (like I'd love them if they were the ONLY sign of aging)

I got my first couple (Literally 2) when I was 17, and I thought "Oh my gosh awesome I'm gonna have amazing white hair by the time I'm 30!"
It was like the universe went "Haha Yes you... Wait you want that? In that case No... No you won't get gray hair."

I didn't get any extra gray hairs until I was like 28. Now at 32 I've got maybe 200ish probably at the same stage Martain is at you can see them if you look. They've certainly upped their game this time around.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: SordidEuphemism on 05 Apr 2019, 09:21
As the old joke goes:

"Dad, why do you have so many grey hairs?"
"Because every time a child makes their parent cry, the parent earns a grey hair."
"Oh. So, that's why pop-pop's hair is all the way grey?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: themacnut on 05 Apr 2019, 10:05
Do you not accept it? You relaying of the information seems pretty matter of fact.

Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.

Actually, I don't really care. I try to not care about things I can't change, and it really worked in that case.

But grey hair is something you can change, after a fashion. That's what the various brands of hair dye are for, after all; so you don't have to just accept your natural hair color.

As for Marten, I'd say to him, "take note of where the Just For Men is sold, son. You'll be using it in a few more years."

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2019, 12:40
Do you not accept it? You relaying of the information seems pretty matter of fact.

Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.

Actually, I don't really care. I try to not care about things I can't change, and it really worked in that case.

But grey hair is something you can change, after a fashion. That's what the various brands of hair dye are for, after all; so you don't have to just accept your natural hair color.

As for Marten, I'd say to him, "take note of where the Just For Men is sold, son. You'll be using it in a few more years."
Ignore him, Marty.  It's best just to let Mother Nature have her way with you.  (No matter what you do She's going to win.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2019, 12:44
Apropos the last week or so (https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.57549669.4886/flat,1000x1000,075,f.u1.jpg).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: theMarc on 05 Apr 2019, 12:52
I like to imagine that today's comic came about because Jeph needed to make the lone hair lighter in panel 2 so it'd be visible against the blackboard, and became inspired from there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 05 Apr 2019, 15:11
Do you not accept it? You relaying of the information seems pretty matter of fact.

Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.

Actually, I don't really care. I try to not care about things I can't change, and it really worked in that case.

But grey hair is something you can change, after a fashion. That's what the various brands of hair dye are for, after all; so you don't have to just accept your natural hair color.

As for Marten, I'd say to him, "take note of where the Just For Men is sold, son. You'll be using it in a few more years."

it's a battle of "OHMYGOD I'M TOO YOUNG FOR THIS" and "does it bother me enough to overcome my lazyness?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Apr 2019, 16:40
Marten's gray hairs were "causing great surprise or wonder; astonishing". That's from the definition of the word "amazing".

Perhaps his friends could gather and serenade him with "Amazing Grays".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: hedgie on 05 Apr 2019, 17:00
If my white were in the form of a "skunk stripe" I would ROCK THAT SHIT OUT. I used to get silver-colored hair spray specifically to put such a stripe in my hair.

It's very much like the one Veronica has in comic (and about the same length).  But living in a University town, I kinda want to dye it just so I can knock 10 years or so off of my apparent age
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: OldGoat on 05 Apr 2019, 17:16
:-o what? If my white were in the form of a "skunk stripe" I would ROCK THAT SHIT OUT. I used to get silver-colored hair spray specifically to put such a stripe in my hair.
Marten may have a genetic predisposition to poliosis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliosis) inherited from Veronica.  Or more likely he's just getting old.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Tova on 05 Apr 2019, 17:45
Also as someone who is going bald and has been since 19, I envy those who have grey hair as the primary concern.

I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that few people, if anyone, has grey hair as their primary concern. And for those who do profess concern about their grey hair -- well, it's probably not the greys per se that they're concerned about, is it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Apr 2019, 19:29
My hair isn't graying.

My mustache, however...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: cybersmurf on 05 Apr 2019, 19:55
My hair isn't graying.

My mustache, however...


Beards gray independently. there's a lot of people who have either gray beards or gray hair, while the other isn't.

For a reason or two I always thought my beard would gray before my hair would, but apparently I was wrong.


Also, quite often, the goatee area has a slightly different hue than the rest. Friend of mine has a  somewhat reddish hue in the sideburns, turning "normal" hair color towards the front, with a slightly brighter hue at the goatee area.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Akima on 05 Apr 2019, 22:05
No grey yet, but I hope I grey with the confidence of Lee Lin Chin:
(https://i.imgur.com/zGvNdvJ.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: Rincewind on 05 Apr 2019, 22:06
I had a full beard and mustache at 14, and at 15 the goatee area and several stripes in my hair went grey.  One plus side was that I was rarely asked for ID when buying beer.  In my case it seems to be linked to my vitalago (skin condition where some skin cells "forget" how to make pigment). I noticed that spots that had stopped tanning had hairs that were white.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3971-3975 (April 1st-5th)
Post by: DaiJB on 06 Apr 2019, 17:02
Meh, got my first grey hair at 19 - knew it was coming, Dad was almost white at 40, Mum had black hair with a thin streak of white at the temple back in my first memories of her...
But You know what annoys me? Hair gradually becoming grey - but my eyebrows - my ludicrously thick eyebrows - won't follow suit and  stubbornly remain totally black. Silly look, imo.