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Title: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Apr 2019, 09:51
Claire's reaction seems pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Apr 2019, 09:59
Running on about 4 hours of sleep. I might swap out the poll if I think of a better one.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 20 Apr 2019, 14:34
Getting from petting to fucking takes you roughly 36km/23 miles. Don't bother going for kissing, that's 200km/125 miles in the opposite direction. At least wedding is still far away, it's 650km/405 miles.

And yes, those are all actual placenames. Kissing and Petting are in Bavaria (Germany), Fucking is in Austria, and Wedding is a part of Berlin.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 20 Apr 2019, 19:20
So hard to choose.

Dirty Womans Gully? Prominent Nob?

How about we just give him this Australian map (https://marvellousmaps.com/shop/stgs-marvellous-map-of-actual-australian-place-names) and let him loose.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 21 Apr 2019, 10:18
Here in Wales there's a town called Three Cocks. Though my favourite funny place name is the village of Login, which I've always imagined you'd have to give a username and password in order to enter.

My dad used to live near a town called Penistone, and as one would expect, the sign was forever being vandalised :P Also got a friend who lives not far from somewhere called Shitterton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Apr 2019, 13:52
In Pennsylvania it takes about 4 hours to get from Intercourse to Climax. Just FYI.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Apr 2019, 13:59
If you've never been to Intercourse, you can still find Climax in Armstrong County.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 21 Apr 2019, 14:36
In Pennsylvania it takes about 4 hours to get from Intercourse to Climax. Just FYI.
Sounds like some serious tantric shit right there!  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: DashaBlade on 21 Apr 2019, 19:39
I think Pintsize would want to live in Butts, Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butts,_Georgia).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 21 Apr 2019, 19:44
Note to Faye: never dash water on Claire's Romantic fantasies. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Apr 2019, 22:16
In Pennsylvania it takes about 4 hours to get from Intercourse to Climax. Just FYI.
There's a Climax, PA?
I wonder if any other state has one or if it's just KS and PA.

Ohio and Kansas are the only two with an Emporia.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 21 Apr 2019, 23:17
I can't see why Dora would say no. She is ready to give up her life there to follow Tai to some other location. Marriage should be a no-brainer at that point.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Apr 2019, 23:36
That's a wonderfully romantic notion for you to have Claire and it is entirely in character. However, given what we as the audience know about how Dora and Tai react pretty much every time they have a realisation about how much they love each other, it's much more likely that they're currently at home, making love, and that is why they aren't answering messages.

Now, I do believe that this is the first time Claire has successfully intimidated Faye and it tells us what she really takes seriously to the point where she'll accept no back talk: Her shipping! :laugh: Marten is, of course, being the good boyfriend by trying to prevent an explosion!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: pendrake on 22 Apr 2019, 00:10
For comic #3986... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3986)

[narrator]: December 2019...

[QC Readers]: Have we gotten hard confirmation of engagement between Dora and Tai yet...?

*echoing Palpatine laughter* (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_nrb6cKDxI)

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 22 Apr 2019, 00:45
Congratulations Claire!  You scared Faye.  Not an easy feat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Apr 2019, 03:01
There's a Climax, PA?
I wonder if any other state has one or if it's just KS and PA.

There are at least half a dozen. I knew about the one in North Carolina and was going to make the joke about that one, but Google Maps told me of Climaxes in Pennsylvania, New York, Virginia, Michigan, and Kentucky.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 22 Apr 2019, 03:30
Surprised you didn’t go for the one in Virginia to make the obvious joke…
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 22 Apr 2019, 04:47
Nah phones under a discarded pile of clothing somewhere.  Tai is bringing her A game and we're going to have a cut to an absolutely destroyed bedroom with wrecked furniture and nail marks in the wallpaper/sheetrock. 

Regards to the poll...  Not up Pintsize's alley, all are non-butt centric towns.  I'd say Butts Georgia would be his choice...  Maybe Dongola Illinois. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: dutchrvl on 22 Apr 2019, 05:40
So hard to choose.

Dirty Womans Gully? Prominent Nob?

How about we just give him this Australian map (https://marvellousmaps.com/shop/stgs-marvellous-map-of-actual-australian-place-names) and let him loose.

I suppose the fact that Disappointment Hill is right next to Mount Cumming makes sense....we've all been there, going for one but accidentally ending up on the other after a wrong turn somewhere... :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 22 Apr 2019, 06:55
Jeph, you are SUCH a tease. *lol*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: DSL on 22 Apr 2019, 08:03
Come to Ohio where it's an 89.4-mile drive from Dayton to Marion -- about an hour and 45 minutes on State Route 4. No, you don't pass through the town of Engagement; we made that up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Case on 22 Apr 2019, 08:41
Kissing and Petting are in Bavaria (Germany), Fucking is in Austria, and Wedding is a part of Berlin.

The 'German question' (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Question) in a nutshell ...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Apr 2019, 08:54
I don't care that it's been decades, I vote for Mianus.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Apr 2019, 10:21
Mianus or Uranus?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 22 Apr 2019, 10:36
Kissing and Petting are in Bavaria (Germany), Fucking is in Austria, and Wedding is a part of Berlin.

The 'German question' (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Question) in a nutshell ...  :-D

I still don't consider Bavaria part of Germany, although they have German passports.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Apr 2019, 11:00
Mianus or Uranus?

Both. Bring protection.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Apr 2019, 17:25
Mianus or Uranus?

Both. Bring protection.

Squick ick. YKNMK
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Case on 22 Apr 2019, 17:42
:roll:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Apr 2019, 19:30
Comic’s up.

Bubbles has earned the right to say “I told you so.” Three straight meals? The atmosphere must be getting pretty toxic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 22 Apr 2019, 19:44
Still no word from Dora though.  And is Faye panicked because of the temptation to drink or something else.  Anyway, cue ominous music.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Milayna on 22 Apr 2019, 19:46
Is it just me or is Faye looking first-third skinny?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 22 Apr 2019, 19:50
Is it just me or is Faye looking first-third skinny?

Might have cut back on groceries for the sake of the business.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 22 Apr 2019, 20:06
Is it just me or is Faye looking first-third skinny?

Might have cut back on groceries for the sake of the business.

Or maybe cuz she stopped drinking.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 22 Apr 2019, 20:09
I seem to remember reading that booze causes puffiness.

I really hope Tai isn't inviting everyone to help her drown her sorrows....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 22 Apr 2019, 20:23
I seem to remember reading that booze causes puffiness.

I really hope Tai isn't inviting everyone to help her drown her sorrows....

Good point. Maybe Dora texted Faye something. And yeah, excessive booze is a lot of empty calories on top of dehydration and bloating. So it would make sense that if one stopped drinking excessively, they'd look thinner over time. Or Jeph's art is just changing again.  :psyduck: 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 22 Apr 2019, 20:57
I see three possibilities here: Dora said no (unlikely), Dora said yes, and they're already married.

And Faye might be freaking about losing Marty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Apr 2019, 21:00
Is it just me or is Faye looking first-third skinny?

"First-third skinny"?

I didn't get any exact matches, so I'm guessing you mean in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 22 Apr 2019, 22:36
Any bets on whether we'll see Steve eating cereal before we get the resolution on Dora having said yes?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2019, 23:14
Yeah, I'm guessing that Jeph's planning a Strip 4000 wham that has something to do with Faye's destructive relationship with alcohol, although possibly not in the way that people expect. Faye really should be more assertive if she doesn't feel comfortable but that's the thing about her development in the past 1000 strips or so: She's been more aware of how domineering she can be and has been attempting to change. However, it's possible to swing a bit too much in the other direction.

I agree that if Dora had said 'no' or even equivocated, Tai's message would have been more detailed and be begging for Marten's help. So, the signs are good in that area. Meanwhile, I think that Claire is going to be physically stressing over not knowing yet!

I wonder if Seven has been having her USB ports changed due to the repeated overloads she's been getting with Jeremy?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 00:41
I feel like this is the Betteridge's law of headlines story arc.

Is This the End of Marten and Claire’s Relationship?

Is This the End of Dora and Tai’s Relationship?

Is This the End of Faye’s Sobriety?

I suppose it’s one way to create drama when you don’t really want terrible things to happen to your cast anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Case on 23 Apr 2019, 00:58
I seem to remember reading that booze causes puffiness.

It does.

Though it took my body a few years to return to a measure of skinny-ness after going sober. Otoh, I'm quite a bit older than Faye, with the respective lower metabolic rate. And I drank mostly small, but very regular quantities of beer, rather than hard liquor.
 
TL;DR - Yes. But methinks it depends a bit on your age, metabolism and drinking habits how your body reacts to your quitting ze boozing. I can highly recommend it in any case, though.


Edit: The most notable thing for me was that constant boozing was very, very exhausting
 and quitting put an end to that. You feel tired all the time you don't feel hungover.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 23 Apr 2019, 01:08
Yeah, I'm guessing that Jeph's planning a Strip 4000 wham that has something to do with Faye's destructive relationship with alcohol, although possibly not in the way that people expect.

Like schnaps-based Molotov cocktails?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2019, 01:23
Yeah, I'm guessing that Jeph's planning a Strip 4000 wham that has something to do with Faye's destructive relationship with alcohol, although possibly not in the way that people expect.

Like schnaps-based Molotov cocktails?

I'm wondering if Faye might have a 'near-miss' but I'm also wondering if Faye may have a sudden realisation that she doesn't like people under the influence or even being around people under the influence. This leads to a confrontation in the bar and her wondering if her relationship with Marten and Dora has been permanently soured.

Sort of 'Faye is sleeping on an air bed at the shop for the next couple of weeks' (or, more cutely, sleeping on Bubbles' lap in a corner of the workshop). Marten is okay for her to stay at the apartment but Faye isn't sure if she's okay with it anymore. Not because she's fallen out with him but because she's genuinely scared that she'll never be able to get past that argument in her head.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 23 Apr 2019, 02:19
That's too much drama for my taste
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: jesslc on 23 Apr 2019, 03:03
I'm another person who thought that it's highly likely that Dora taking off early and no response from Tai meant that they were busy celebrating their engagement. In the bedroom.  :-)

Still no word from Dora though.  And is Faye panicked because of the temptation to drink or something else.  Anyway, cue ominous music.

I'm thinking that Faye is panicking about the possibility of Marten and Claire moving out if Claire ends up getting a job far away. That could be about losing her best friend - but my thoughts also went to the financial side of things.

It's been shown in the comic that Faye and Bubbles are not making much money yet - they've been scraping by but they would probably be in quite a bit of trouble if they had to go from splitting the rent for the apartment 4 ways, to splitting it 2 ways. They could look for another housemate - and I'm sure Marten and Claire would give them a decent amount of notice - but even changing to splitting the rent 3 ways could be a concern for them. Given there would only be the one room to rent out, finding 2 people to share it would probably be harder than just finding 1 new housemate. Not mention having to find good housemate - someone who they can live with. I think it's riskier (financially) to be the primary tenant trying to rent out a room because you have to be able to cover the whole rent, in case it ends up takes you a while to find someone.

Well that's what I thought about anyway... possibly that's reflective of my experiences/my friends' experiences/what it's like here/etc. America and/or Northampton could be different, for all I know.  :meh:

It would also make an interesting parallel - Faye advised Marten not to get ahead of himself just a few comics ago, and now she's getting ahead of herself and panicking. But it's probably a good idea for Faye and Bubbles to talk about this possibility now anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Apr 2019, 04:03
Faye is definitely panicking about the possibility of Marten leaving. She declined an obvious way out of going to the bar, and will also have Bubbles looking out for her to make sure she doesn’t slip, so that doesn’t seem to be the issue. On the other hand, the possibility of Marten moving away feeds into her abandonment issues, and never mind the financial difficulty it might cause.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 04:35
Faye is definitely panicking about the possibility of Marten leaving. She declined an obvious way out of going to the bar, and will also have Bubbles looking out for her to make sure she doesn’t slip, so that doesn’t seem to be the issue. On the other hand, the possibility of Marten moving away feeds into her abandonment issues, and never mind the financial difficulty it might cause.

That seems far more likely than the idea that Faye would be uncomfortable about going to the bar but is being dishonest with Marten about it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 23 Apr 2019, 05:10
I still think she's just anxious and uncertain about the bar.  She told Marten it's fine, she might think it's fine, but now the doubt set's in.  The "what if's" and different scenarios start playing in her head.  smell of her favorite beer, someone sipping whiskey and it looks good.  Also think she might have said it so no one tried to change plans around for her sake.  Everyone want's to go out and have a good time, who am I to stop them from what they want to do and have them change their plans just because of me?

If that's what's happening here I can relate.  Hate crowds, hate large places.  I've been in the Security/Safety field for the past 20 years and sadly my job has conditioned me and I just can't seem to turn off my work mode anymore.  Need to know exits, need to be in a spot where I can see who's coming and going.  Too many people and I can't keep track of the faces?  Suddenly 8-12 people behind me when I last looked and saw 4?  Unease and anxiety set's in.  Certain noises, certain phrases, heck even someone coming in and acting odd, all put me on edge to the point it's visible and noticeable in my demeanor.  Once I've lost that sense of Situational Awareness and knowing who's coming and going that feeling of anxiousness and..  Well honestly, a sense of failure to perform at the thing I've been doing for a career for so long begins to set in.  I try not to be defined by my job but when it becomes a part of your everyday and a part of your image to people you know and trust, it becomes a part of your sense of self.     

Makes it difficult when the friends want to go somewhere, restaurants, large bars, trips into the City...  They know about my issue with things, they still invite me, and I still acquiesce.  I mean, I do like doing things, like spending time with my friends and I generally have a good time as long as it's not too bad of a situation.  They want me there and have invited me so who am I to tell them to change their plans and consider me more than everyone else in the group?  Although, I admit it was much easier back when I was a smoker.  I got too overwhelmed or out of my comfort zone I could usually escape outside for a breather lol. 

They all no the hard no situations though.  Not going anywhere near any tree lighting events, ball drops, or grand openings of whatever.  And no bakery grand openings...  That one needs explanation though.  Friend of mine took us on a walking tour of his new neighborhood.  Nice enough place, not a place you'd want to be walking alone after 11:00pm but nice and pleasant during the day and early evening.  Rounded a block and saw a small line, nothing major, grand opening of a new bakery and I'm a sucker for a good cinnamon roll, which they had on display and looked amazing.  Agreed to stop and grab something.  They get in line and wait for me to do my thing which is something I have to do for most new places i've never been too (I have a habit of walking the exterior of buildings and noting, exits, windows, paths of egress) then when I go in I scan the inside of the building best I can and can usually generate a mental floor plan and image of what is where and where things are and how to get out of said place. 

I get in line with them and 10 minutes or so go by as we get into the store.  2 things have happened since then.  Line is packed behind us and 2 guys are arguing about cutting in line a little further back.  Don't know if it was the two arguing guys or not, we were inside the store and I lost sight of them outside on line, but next thing I know all I'm hearing is a series of rapid pops and the front window of the bakery has shattered and everyone is screaming.  Due to the number of people, way too many panicking people pushing/shoving/ trying to squeeze out the front door and no one is going anywhere.  Grabbed my two friends by the hand, walked them through the employee door, out the back of the loading dock of the bakery, down two alley's and popped out onto the main road a block away and about 20 feet from the car.  We still go back, cinnammon roll was totally worth it when I finally got one, but it's an ongoing joke whenever someone see's a "grand opening" for a bakery or an ad online to ask me if I'd like to take the lead and keep them safe while they go.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Apr 2019, 06:28
Ick!

The part about keeping track of exits is something everyone should do, though. Fires happen.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 23 Apr 2019, 07:12
Its probably a combination of both of Faye's concerns.

On the one hand, Marten is her best friend and probably the closest she has to family in Northampton. She's deeply concerned about him and Faye's first response other than surprise at the news of the engagement is asking if he's okay, considering that his friend just asked his ex to marry her, right in front of him (As an aside that was rather an insensitive act by Tai, less so about Marten and more about putting Dora on the spot in front of an audience). But there's also the spectre of Marten moving away, which somewhat feeds in Faye's issues about the men in her life; her father's suicide, Sven's cheating, Angus' leaving when he realised Faye couldn't support his dreams. The key figures who ultimately broke her heart. Now the prospect of Marten leaving is going to weigh heavily on Faye, despite her support of him and his relationship. There's a certain level of irony/hypocrisy in her telling him that he can follow Claire if she has to move, despite the fact that she refused to do the same in her last major relationship. But its the prospect of losing her best friend.

On the other hand, Faye is an alcoholic and one who has been involved in two nearly fatal incidents due to her drinking. She knows that and her friends know that and the fact that Marten is the one to suggest they have drinks at their apartment rather than going to the bar. That's a conscious effort on Marten's part to make sure than Faye wouldn't be uncomfortable. And Faye is probably aware of that. Its bad enough for Faye that she's constantly aware of that urge to drink, but now she's suddenly confronted by her best friend making an effort to acknowledge that a bar is not a good place for her. Its possibly the realisation for her that her alcoholism affects more people than just herself and that's a big slap to the face for a recovering alcoholic, not because that friends are making a conscious effort to keep them from a situation that breaks their sobriety, but because that's the instant they realise that people do keep thinking of them as an alcoholic and will keeping thinking of them in those terms.

Those two elements combined are probably causing the beginning of a panic in Faye and those moments are what really test someone's effort to stay sober.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 23 Apr 2019, 09:04
(snip first paragraph)...Now, I do believe that this is the first time Claire has successfully intimidated Faye and it tells us what she really takes seriously to the point where she'll accept no back talk: Her shipping! :laugh: Marten is, of course, being the good boyfriend by trying to prevent an explosion!

While I do enjoy Claire standing up to Faye in conversation, what I really like about this is Faye backing down so fast. Faye is one of my favourite characters, but she does have a tendency to react with aggressive and/or tone-deaf teasing, snark, or sometimes even bullying. I see she's learning, and that makes me really happy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 23 Apr 2019, 09:40
Faye is "softening". Bubbles has been good influence, she knows Marty and Bubs have her back, no matter what, so she's loosening her emotional barriers, and with them her punchiness. The possibility of Marten actually leaving is stressing her out, and that's why she's going to Bubbles for support. LIterally the other person she knows for sure she can trust.

I do believe she can actually handle being in a bar, and not drinking. Being able to handle everyone else being drunk might be a wholly different thing, having a sober buddy might be a good choice here.


Whatever happens, we'll see the results within the next two weeks.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 23 Apr 2019, 09:55
After having spent some months teetotal, and now being largely abstinent or moderate, I have really noticed that I have lost whatever tolerance for drunks I possessed.  It doesn't matter whether they're angry, happy, or affectionate drunks, now they're all just really fucking annoying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 23 Apr 2019, 10:06
I am really nervous for Faye. She's done amazingly well so far, even going so far as pouring a bottle away at some point, IIRC? And I could be completely imagining this, but didn't she actually drink at some point in her recovery? I think Marten came home and they had a discussion about relapsing?

Anyway, what strikes me about this strip is that Faye is a) not being completely honest with her friends, and b) going to her romantic partner for help. I think that's pretty healthy, for Faye. I think the conversation might've gone a bit differently if Claire hadn't been there, and I think it's a very good thing that Claire was there. Bubbles can probably provide more useful support (emotional and practical) for Faye at this point than anyone else could, and it looks like Faye is learning to trust her romantic partner, in a fuller sense than she ever did before.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: dhsquared on 23 Apr 2019, 10:06
Is there a better place to post spelling corrections needed?

Panel 2 of https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3986

Faye: apocalpytic => apocalyptic

Cheers!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 23 Apr 2019, 10:59
Ick!

The part about keep track of exits is something everyone should do, though. Fires happen.
Just ask Brun and Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 23 Apr 2019, 11:33
Is there a better place to post spelling corrections needed?

Panel 2 of https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3986

Faye: apocalpytic => apocalyptic

Cheers!

IIRC, emailing Jeph directly works, since he actually reads those.  I'm surprised that I didn't notice it, and I don't recall seeing anything on Patreon about it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: SeaWoodStage on 23 Apr 2019, 11:45
Makes sense. I could write and draw a comic like I could grow a tree that fruited rainbow bubbles everyday. But if I did have the skills and talent to create such a comic, I'd rather receive corrections via direct email. At least that way, you can fix it fast.

Oh, and I voted for Slutsend, just because it sounds rather cosy and friendly. One can imagine lanterns in the trees in a place like Slutsend. People would come and giggle, but they would be swiftly overwhelmed by friendly townsfolk, offering bed & breakfast recommendations and slices of innocent pie.

ETA: I didn't vote for Hackballs Cross, because that sounds like a small town in the middle of nowhere with a resident serial killer.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Apr 2019, 12:39
Welcome, new person with a keen eye!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 20:31
COMIC

That seems far more likely than the idea that Faye would be uncomfortable about going to the bar but is being dishonest with Marten about it.

Okay, guess not.

WTF seriously
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 23 Apr 2019, 20:32
New comic!

So it WAS Faye being worried about the drinking thing. Love Bubbles being supportive.

Signal flare thing, explained!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 23 Apr 2019, 20:37
For an alcoholic, its never "Oh, there's a drink. But I stopped myself the last time, so I'm going to be okay from now on."

Its that constant "Its a drink. I would love a drink. I want nothing more than to down that and move onto the next drink." Because it never ends. That temptation is always there, lingering just behind you, trying to get you to have a drink.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: celticgeek on 23 Apr 2019, 20:40
So who else in the cast is going to need a signal flare?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 20:52
Who doesn’t?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 23 Apr 2019, 21:17
I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.  Dora is one of her oldest friends, even predating Marten, and she really wants to celebrate the event.  She is nervous about this, but between Bubbles and Claire/Marten as sober buddies, she should be okay.
Unless she slips, says stuff, and then all bets are off.  That is the QC way, no?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 23 Apr 2019, 21:59
I stand corrected. It is about being at a bar. Admittedly, it would be easier if it were "casual" drinking where only a few drinks are involved, especially if everyone has to go to work the next day, but this is a celebration. Or worse. But as Station once stated (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2132), the effect is basically the same.

Since both Tai and Dora were unavailable, chances are good dora said yes and they celebrated by banging. Or got married already. If she hadn't, at least one of them would have talked to Marten, I believe.

And I swear to God, I still expect a Steve eats cereal filler just to troll people and drag the resolution out a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 23 Apr 2019, 22:07
I just hope Steve doesn't get McLeaned.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 22:27
I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Penquin47 on 23 Apr 2019, 22:45
It's not hypocrisy for Faye to tell Marten that he can follow Claire when she didn't follow Angus.  She didn't tell him he had to, or that he was a bad person if he decided not to.  She said he could, and he should at least seriously consider it.  Irony, maybe, but not hypocrisy.

Incidentally I came up with the correct response to Claire's fangirling: "Nah, they're not looking at wedding outfits, they're fixing the problem with the proposal and looking at rings.  First things first, y'know?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2019, 23:13
I agree with Mr Intrepid. This is about Faye's condition colliding head-on with her desire to be there for Dora and her disinclination to make this about her (at least in her own mind). She doesn't want to spoil Dora's big day because of her 'weakness' and she doesn't want to distract Marten by giving him reason to worry about her. It's silly but I do think it's in character for Faye to want to avoid in any way drawing attention to her own needs in a situation like this.

What I think is good is that Faye is not walking into this situation all full of breezy self-confidence. So long as she is aware of her own difficulties, it will be less easy for her to be caught out by it. Additionally, Bubbles at least is likely to be able to keep watch on Faye without becoming distracted!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2019, 23:47
This is about Faye's condition colliding head-on with her desire to be there for Dora and her disinclination to make this about her (at least in her own mind). She doesn't want to spoil Dora's big day because of her 'weakness' and she doesn't want to distract Marten by giving him reason to worry about her. It's silly but I do think it's in character for Faye to want to avoid in any way drawing attention to her own needs in a situation like this.

Everything you say is absolutely true, and yet not one of those things makes what Faye said to Marten honest.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2019, 23:59
Everything you say is absolutely true, and yet not one of those things makes what Faye said to Marten honest.

At what point was it supposed to be 'honest'? However it is also not a malicious act on Faye's part. So, really, there is nothing to debate because whether or not she is being honest isn't the issue here. The issue is her very real fear and confronting this challenge.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 24 Apr 2019, 00:06
I never said it was malicious, just that she was dishonest to Marten.

I'm getting a lot of disagreement on that point from people who apparently think there is nothing to debate.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 24 Apr 2019, 00:13
twisting the truth to keep the moment of surprise is dishonest, too. Maybe Faye saw Marten was freaked out by the rest of the stuff already, and she didn't want to throw that on him, too, especially when she has someone else to go to. Maybe she thought she was capable at the time she said it, only to realise the truth on her way (back?) to work.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Cornelius on 24 Apr 2019, 00:44
Personally, I don't read it that way. The way Claire and Marten both look concerned as she's leaving, I read it as an excuse to get away.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 24 Apr 2019, 01:08
I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.

Sometimes, you just don't want to be the party killer, or the one who always need some help, or simply you don't want the attention focused on you.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Meander on 24 Apr 2019, 03:28
Serious discussion aside...Bubbles' fitnesswear has been getting skimpier. This is a pleasing development.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 24 Apr 2019, 04:09
I give up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 24 Apr 2019, 04:18
Welcome to the human condition. As obvious as it is, nobody ever gets it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Apr 2019, 05:00
Everything you say is absolutely true, and yet not one of those things makes what Faye said to Marten honest.

At what point was it supposed to be 'honest'? However it is also not a malicious act on Faye's part. So, really, there is nothing to debate because whether or not she is being honest isn't the issue here. The issue is her very real fear and confronting this challenge.

The lie itself wasn't malicious. But an alcoholic is a liar by nature and lying is a dangerous relapse trigger, simply because the liar feels guilty afterwards. And in Faye's case, she's lying because she clearly wants to support one of her oldest friends and telling her best friend that she's okay with being in a place with all that temptation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 24 Apr 2019, 05:09
I'm confident that Faye's friends, and especially Bubbles and Marten, who are very aware of the situation, will help her keep on track.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Apr 2019, 05:29
I'm confident that Faye's friends, and especially Bubbles and Marten, who are very aware of the situation, will help her keep on track.

That's just it, you're always going to be strong when you have people around you, because you can always use them to distract you from that urge to drink. But what about those times when Faye is alone with her own thoughts. Suddenly she's having to resist that temptation all by herself and that's a lot harder to do on your own.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 24 Apr 2019, 05:45
I'm confident that Faye's friends, and especially Bubbles and Marten, who are very aware of the situation, will help her keep on track.

That's just it, you're always going to be strong when you have people around you, because you can always use them to distract you from that urge to drink. But what about those times when Faye is alone with her own thoughts. Suddenly she's having to resist that temptation all by herself and that's a lot harder to do on your own.

Sure, but that's hardly something new.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Apr 2019, 05:49
I'm confident that Faye's friends, and especially Bubbles and Marten, who are very aware of the situation, will help her keep on track.

That's just it, you're always going to be strong when you have people around you, because you can always use them to distract you from that urge to drink. But what about those times when Faye is alone with her own thoughts. Suddenly she's having to resist that temptation all by herself and that's a lot harder to do on your own.

Sure, but that's hardly something new.

Faye did nearly break the first night after she was released from hospital. She had to destroy her secret stash without anyone's support as it was the middle of the night. So, being alone with booze is something that she faced before but, IIRC, it was a physically painful experience for her so I can't blame her for not wanting to face that again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 24 Apr 2019, 06:06
What I'm really waiting for: Was Cosmo's owner found or not? That cliffhanger is killing me...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 24 Apr 2019, 06:55
What I'm really waiting for: Was Cosmo's owner found or not? That cliffhanger is killing me...
  Dora and Tai were both involved with the finding of Cosmo.  Maybe he could be the ringbearer?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gawdwin on 24 Apr 2019, 09:30
I registered just to comment on what a beautiful partner bubbles is and I hope everyone out there finds such a loving and supporting partner.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Apr 2019, 11:05
Welcome, new person who is absolutely right!

Bubbles combines passionate loyalty with a sense of humor which is a rare and wonderful combination.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 24 Apr 2019, 11:59
After having spent some months teetotal, and now being largely abstinent or moderate, I have really noticed that I have lost whatever tolerance for drunks I possessed.  It doesn't matter whether they're angry, happy, or affectionate drunks, now they're all just really fucking annoying.

I have a similar issue. I just sit there thinking 'you do this to yourself by choice. And it costs you so much money.'

I never said it was malicious, just that she was dishonest to Marten.

I'm getting a lot of disagreement on that point from people who apparently think there is nothing to debate.  :psyduck:

The belief that honesty is 100% always the best policy I think is the result of generations' worth of kids' media making it seem like that's true.

It definitely isn't. Faye said an untrue thing, you are right. She also said it for all the right reasons. You are, as my partners often say, in violent agreement with each other.

Serious discussion aside...Bubbles' fitnesswear has been getting skimpier. This is a pleasing development.

Yeah, no more of this.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Apr 2019, 15:02
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 24 Apr 2019, 16:27
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

At an early stage. It's new to both of them, and probably not that common generally. IMO it's OK to defer that talk. Or maybe it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 24 Apr 2019, 16:54
Welcome to the human condition. As obvious as it is, nobody ever gets it.

I'm sure I've misunderstood a whole bunch of people in my time here, so I can deal with it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 24 Apr 2019, 17:38
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Apr 2019, 17:44
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Possibly, but the worst time to talk about marriage is when someone has just gotten engaged because it feels like there's pressure, even if none is tended.

I have no doubt that Faye and Bubbles will have the conversation at some stage, but not right now. Right now, Tai and Dora are up in the air and while there are subtle clues that there is something to celebrate, there is nothing concrete yet. And I think that Bubbles and Faye having that conversation now would just be retreading ground we've just covered.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: mcguganator on 24 Apr 2019, 18:57
I just had a terrifying thought about a possible direction this arc is headed...

Imagine if everyone (except Faye) has had a number of drinks at the bar, and Faye has a change of mind/moment of weakness/whatever you want to call it and asks for a drink (instead of asking Bubbles to leave).
Presumably everyone else is too drunk or preoccupied with something else to notice this happening.
This puts Bubbles in a really tough spot of either trying to convince Faye otherwise, or stop her by force.
Results in a difficult conversation later that night/next morning either way.

Hopefully there's a more positive resolution!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Apr 2019, 20:02
Comic!

Yep, that's our crew.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 24 Apr 2019, 20:37
YAAAAY!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: chason on 24 Apr 2019, 20:46
I have a similar issue. I just sit there thinking 'you do this to yourself by choice. And it costs you so much money.'

Well, yeah. For most people it is fun
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 24 Apr 2019, 20:50


Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?
[/quote Momo, I believe, mentioned constitutional amendment guaranteeing AIs equal protection.
 So, my guess is yes.
And Faye's sister's girlfriend could write a paper on it.]
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 24 Apr 2019, 21:07
Seems like the author is being a bit hard on his cast.  Dora and Tai never stated whether they got engaged or not on the phone so it wasn't out of the realm of possibilties. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Apr 2019, 21:16
To be fair, Tai invited them to the bar. Which from our perspective, left it leaning heavily towards Dora and Tai getting engaged. I mean, imagine how likely these two scenarios are:
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she said yes. We're engaged!"
Marten: "Congratulations!"

Or....
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she turned me down."
Marten: ".....Oh."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: TRenn on 24 Apr 2019, 21:18
It pleases me that, amongst the four primary "idiots," three have some sort of sheepish grin in panel 4, while Bubbles makes her "savings throw" statement with exactly the same expression.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Apr 2019, 22:16
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?

Put Obergefell v. Hodges together with the AI ERA and it should be as clear cut as anything ever is in the law.

Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 24 Apr 2019, 22:20
Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?
Meh, if they don't like it they can call a cop.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 24 Apr 2019, 22:35
I think, they were expecting excited screaming and confetti.
What did they expect though? They probably were too busy seeing how freaked out Marten was and how he left, Claire still winding down not yet capable of being her cheerful self. Bubbles is Bubbles, and they could see why Faye might be a bit... distracted, since it seems to be her first time in a bar ever since.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: St.Clair on 24 Apr 2019, 22:41
"We didn't invite you here for honest reactions!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 24 Apr 2019, 22:57
To be fair, Tai invited them to the bar. Which from our perspective, left it leaning heavily towards Dora and Tai getting engaged. I mean, imagine how likely these two scenarios are:
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she said yes. We're engaged!"
Marten: "Congratulations!"

Or....
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she turned me down."
Marten: ".....Oh."

Possibly, but maybe they went from engagement to married.  Perhaps they were so in the moment they went to the courthouse and sealed the deal. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Apr 2019, 23:12
This is a hilarious comic. It's the comparison of the two rows that makes it work and especially the facial expressions. If nothing else, I suspect Dora and Tai are more than a little peeved that their highly-neurotic friends are hard-pressed to make this not be about them rather than the happy couple! That said, Faye at least is offering Dora and Tai validation; she clearly thinks that Dora ought to have said yes.

A nice bonus is where Bubbles' hand is: It isn't shifting from Faye's shoulder and that's a wonderfully subtle gesture of support and protection.

"We didn't invite you here for honest reactions!"

Precisely. Sometimes, saying 'congratulations' is enough. Perhaps one should avoid more detailed commentary in situations like this! :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Apr 2019, 23:17

I have a similar issue. I just sit there thinking 'you do this to yourself by choice. And it costs you so much money.'
Ditto on the I-don't-like-being-drunk train.

For me, most beers taste vile (anything not derived solely from fruit), and being drunk is more frustrating than fun. My inhibitors go up, yet I still get the impaired balance and motor skills. On the taste front, most mixed drinks and hard liquors are okay, but I'm "pretty picky" since I don't do anything bitter.


EDIT: derped out and accidentally deleted the close quotes coding.
EDIT 2: correcting verb-noun agreement.
EDIT 3: correcting typo in previous correction
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 25 Apr 2019, 01:34
It pleases me that, amongst the four primary "idiots," three have some sort of sheepish grin in panel 4, while Bubbles makes her "savings throw" statement with exactly the same expression.

You beat me to it!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: hakko504 on 25 Apr 2019, 02:19

Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?
IIRC we've only seen two other AI couples: Jeremy/7 and Melon/Arthur and whether they are married or not hasn't been stated AFAIK. And IIRC we haven't seen any other AI/human relations at all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Apr 2019, 02:46

Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?

IIRC we've only seen two other AI couples: Jeremy/7 and Melon/Arthur and whether they are married or not hasn't been stated AFAIK. And IIRC we haven't seen any other AI/human relations at all.

FWIW, it's not in Jeph's style to write drama of this sort. If he did decide to have a human/synthetic wedding, I think he'd prefer to (and likely have more fun with) contrasting the traditions of the two species and making jokes about the resulting hybrid ceremony (FAYE: "I am not sticking a USB cable in my ear for anyone!").

It's more in his style that he'll have a Reliable Narrator like Momo explain that this has all been sorted out ages ago, possibly including telling the tale. My favourite idea is something like that Joaquin Phoenix film, Her (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_(film)). A guy working for a bank that has an unembodied AI as its 24-hour trading monitoring and execution system. He pulls several night shifts and gets to know her (and the system very clearly identifies as female). Gradually, they fall in love and she ultimately takes up a buy-out of her contract, gets a anthropomimetic chassis and the two get married (and even adopt a kid).

Momo notes that the Supreme Court ruling was actually not close but that, to this day, many continue to fume about the extension of equal rights to that degree. Maybe Momo will note that the lady in question actually now teaches pure maths at Smif and all the students she's spoken to agree that she and her husband remain extremely in love. Another interesting twist would be that she was quite rich because of her bonuses from her smart trading; it was her money that partly paid for the development of highly-anthropometic chassis that exist in the present.

[EDIT - PS]
Maybe this was the test case that led to the AIs being granted equal rights with humans?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: jesslc on 25 Apr 2019, 03:38
I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.

I was also very surprised that Faye didn't share her concerns about the bar with Marten. Not because of any beliefs about honesty is the best policy(*) but because I felt it was out of character for her, given what we've seen of their friendship post Faye's hospitalisation. She didn't hesitate to ask him to keep an eye on her in the past.

So I guess I'm leaning towards the "thinking about it while walking to work made her realise she wasn't as okay as she said she was" theory.

*(Personally I think that honesty is usually the best policy. But not always.)

---

I wonder if we're going to have a brief weird moment when Tai (or Dora) realise that 2 out the 4 of people who have come to celebrate with them aren't drinking. Bubbles could smell some alcohol or try a robot beer if she wanted to, but I'm sure she'd see helping Faye stay sober as much more important.

I sure hope that if there is such a moment, that Tai/Dora won't say any of the various thoughtless comments I've encountered over the years when people realise I'm not drinking. I don't drink because I don't want to, I imagine such comments would be even more difficult for Faye to deal with.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Apr 2019, 03:50
Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 25 Apr 2019, 04:01
Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

Do you think any use of substance is abuse? Honest question, no innuendo intended.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 25 Apr 2019, 04:04
I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.

I was also very surprised that Faye didn't share her concerns about the bar with Marten. Not because of any beliefs about honesty is the best policy(*) but because I felt it was out of character for her, given what we've seen of their friendship post Faye's hospitalisation. She didn't hesitate to ask him to keep an eye on her in the past.

So I guess I'm leaning towards the "thinking about it while walking to work made her realise she wasn't as okay as she said she was" theory.

*(Personally I think that honesty is usually the best policy. But not always.)

---

I wonder if we're going to have a brief weird moment when Tai (or Dora) realise that 2 out the 4 of people who have come to celebrate with them aren't drinking. Bubbles could smell some alcohol or try a robot beer if she wanted to, but I'm sure she'd see helping Faye stay sober as much more important.

I sure hope that if there is such a moment, that Tai/Dora won't say any of the various thoughtless comments I've encountered over the years when people realise I'm not drinking. I don't drink because I don't want to, I imagine such comments would be even more difficult for Faye to deal with.

I think the comic makes it perfectly clear that from now on, Faye will be more inclined to ask Bubbles for that sort of help.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Apr 2019, 04:15
Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

Do you think any use of substance is abuse? Honest question, no innuendo intended.

I didn't say abuse, I said use. There is a difference. But a consistent trait of Tai throughout the comic is that she has and does use drugs, with pot being her drug of choice.

What I was previously trying to get at was the idea that Tai might not necessarily think of Faye as an alcoholic or an addict, simply because they aren't particularly close, it might not occur to Tai that for Faye "just one drink" is anything but that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 25 Apr 2019, 04:41
I doubt it.  Tai has been a few things in the comic but she's never forced anything on anyone as far as I can recall.  She's in the circle of friends, she's assumingly talked to Dora about Faye when they had issues with her being fired from the coffee shop and why Dora had to do it, she assumingly knows about Faye quitting alcohol and trying to stop.  It's at this point though, none of them but Bubbles know about the apprehension Faye has about being in the bar.  I'd more expect Dolphin guy to show up and try to get her to drink more than Tai would.   

Tai has always struck me more as someone who's experienced in many different forms of mood altering substances, but she's not a pusher trying to get others to join her in her endeavors, but if your on the same ride of your own free will and want to spend some time traveling together?  Well that's cool.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 25 Apr 2019, 06:32
Slow to respond to the survey and all the good ones I thought of off the top of my head were already posted so how about a subway station in Toronto
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 25 Apr 2019, 06:58
It seemed entirely possible that Tai was calling her friends because Dora said NO and wanted to drown her sorrows... *shrug*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: dutchrvl on 25 Apr 2019, 07:14
Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

I was actually wondering if Tai would act as a tempter, leading to drama betwene her and Dora when Dora realizes that Tai is trying to persuade Faye to imbibe.

Might just be thinking that because it seems to have been a while since drama.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 25 Apr 2019, 07:33
I have a similar issue. I just sit there thinking 'you do this to yourself by choice. And it costs you so much money.'

Well, yeah. For most people it is fun
I drink approximately once a month, or less... It's not a scheduled event*. Last few times I didn't even get buzzed - just had a couple of tasty beers with dinner.

* New Year's Eve is the only "scheduled event" for drinking, and I don't get fucked up any more; I just get a heavy buzz on. I'll be fifty next month and realized several years ago that I can't drink like a young man any more.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: chason on 25 Apr 2019, 08:06
I drink approximately once a month, or less... It's not a scheduled event*. Last few times I didn't even get buzzed - just had a couple of tasty beers with dinner.

* New Year's Eve is the only "scheduled event" for drinking, and I don't get fucked up any more; I just get a heavy buzz on. I'll be fifty next month and realized several years ago that I can't drink like a young man any more.

In my experience young people don't know how to drink. They mistake the end result as the goal instead of enjoying the journey.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Apr 2019, 08:35
I'm not worried about any person trying to wreck Faye's sobriety, but does the name Pavlov ring a bell? Faye is around other people drinking, seeing liquor, hearing clinks and orders, and worst of all having her sense of smell go direct into her limbic system.

On her side, she has Bubbles, and perhaps the bartender if someone in the party was savvy enough to say "this is our designated driver".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 25 Apr 2019, 09:02
does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

I'm salivating, now...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 25 Apr 2019, 09:07
I think Faye will be ok. There are many people caring for her well-being in that bar, and Faye drinking booze seems really unlikely. If she landed in a bar all by herself, it would be a different story entirely.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Apr 2019, 09:15
As long as Bubbles is present, there will be no drinking by Faye. For two reasons: Faye doesn’t want to disappoint Bubbles, if anyone tries to pressure Faye into drinking they will quickly find a very large robot looming over them in the most intimidating fashion imaginable. We’ve seen that Bubbles is very protective of her humans, and  Faye is by far the most important human in her life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Case on 25 Apr 2019, 09:25
does the name Pavlov ring a bell?

I'm salivating, now...

Nonononono - when the bell rings, you have to feed the dog!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Cornelius on 25 Apr 2019, 09:45
Especially when the dog rings the bell.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 25 Apr 2019, 10:36
I can walk by the booze with no problem.  Maple bars, apple fritters, and powdered sugar doughnut holes, OTOH, take every iota of will power I can muster to pass up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 25 Apr 2019, 19:51
New comic up!
Let the awkwardness ensue.
And the look on Bubble's face.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Apr 2019, 21:17
I think Jeph does facial expressions very well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Near Lurker on 25 Apr 2019, 21:43
I'm actually wondering about the fact that no one seems to be drinking.  I understand not wanting to make Faye uncomfortable, but aren't they worried they'll get kicked out?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 25 Apr 2019, 22:17
I'm actually wondering about the fact that no one seems to be drinking.  I understand not wanting to make Faye uncomfortable, but aren't they worried they'll get kicked out?

As long as they order something I don't see why not buying any alcoholic beverages should be an issue.  It's difficult to tell from the background, but it might be a bar & grill. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Apr 2019, 23:12
It's amazing how quickly sweet can turn into embarrassing, isn't it? :-P Seriously, though, just how long will Dora and Tai be not safe for outdoors because of the intensity of their feelings? I suspect that the others may need to think of locking them into their apartment until they get it out of their systems! It may take a while. :-D

Both today's and yesterday's strip are wonderful in how Jeph is doing contrasting otherwise-identical panels to communicate the characters' feelings and reactions. Once again, I think it's lovely how Bubbles isn't coming out of physical contact with Faye because she's so determined to support her. That said, it's interesting that she has a subconscious reaction to tension or embarrassment; notice that her grip tightens in panel 4 in both today's and yesterday's strip. I do hope she doesn't accidentally bruise Faye's shoulder!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 25 Apr 2019, 23:26
Is it just me or does that place look rather empty?
They're probably either really early in a bar, or at a bar or diner at a rather off hour....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 26 Apr 2019, 02:39
I'm actually wondering about the fact that no one seems to be drinking.  I understand not wanting to make Faye uncomfortable, but aren't they worried they'll get kicked out?

I assumed this was because the past two comics took place over a period of like ten seconds since they all arrived to meet the happy couple.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 26 Apr 2019, 08:03
Yesterday: people at one side of the room being jerks

Today: people at the other side of the room being jerks
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Apr 2019, 11:24
I'm not saying I have been guilty of the same faux pas as Dora and Tai, but I'm not not saying it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 26 Apr 2019, 11:30
I'm not saying I have been guilty of the same faux pas as Dora and Tai, but I'm not not saying it.

I'm definitely guilty of this, I have definitely been terrible for it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 26 Apr 2019, 15:18
Get a room, you two!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 26 Apr 2019, 15:35
I'm actually wondering about the fact that no one seems to be drinking.  I understand not wanting to make Faye uncomfortable, but aren't they worried they'll get kicked out?

I assumed this was because the past two comics took place over a period of like ten seconds since they all arrived to meet the happy couple.
Yup.  Beverages may even have been ordered but have not yet arrived.  An experienced barkeep might recognize what's going on and tactfully delay delivery until just before they need glasses to raise.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 26 Apr 2019, 18:27
In my experience young people don't know how to drink. They mistake the end result as the goal instead of enjoying the journey.
You know, I've never really thought about it before, but I think you've got it exactly right!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Apr 2019, 20:53
CuddleFace Claire is Best ClaireFace Ever!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Apr 2019, 23:25
Get a room, you two!

They've just come from their room! I'm guessing that they just left it too soon!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 28 Apr 2019, 22:12
What I'm really waiting for: Was Cosmo's owner found or not? That cliffhanger is killing me...

I'm pretty sure that COSMO belongs to SPOOKYBOT.  That borzoi (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3879 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3879)) looks like the dogs here (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3418 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3418)).

I dunno why Spooky sent her in; probably as another way of getting in with this group of friends because as we've since established, they're lonely (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3924 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3924)).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: netcat on 30 Apr 2019, 04:23

Ditto on the I-don't-like-being-drunk train.

For me, most beers taste vile (anything not derived solely from fruit), and being drunk is more frustrating than fun. My inhibitors go up, yet I still get the impaired balance and motor skills. On the taste front, most mixed drinks and hard liquors are okay, but I'm "pretty picky" since I don't do anything bitter.

Your reaction to alcohol seems to be exactly like mine, the more I drink the more inhibited and quiet I become, which is saying alot considering I'm a 100% introvert with avoidant issues to begin with. I've never gotten to the fun part of "being drunk" if you don't count losing fine motor control as the fun part (can't grok why one would impair themselves on purpose, either, if not as ritual sacrifice). I'm not really sure whether I've actually ever been drunk in the classical sense.

Except taste-wise I like everything bitter, very much. Which is why gin is my go-to in situations where not drinking is socially awkward. At least it doesn't put me to sleep like wine does.  I can handle quite a lot of gin with no visible effect at all whereas 3 glasses of wine and it feels like overdosing on Xanax.  But I can't stand beer, either. All beer smells and tastes vile to me and not because of the bitter component at all. People have tried getting me to sample kriek saying oh it tastes like fruit, not like beer at all, but nope. Still beer, only with fruit. Seems like criminal waste of fruit.

And to get back on topic, I would very much like to know what Bubbles sees when she's sniffing the juniper extract.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 May 2019, 17:21
I can't do wine because of the taste.

I know it's literally rotten fruit, but it tastes like rotten fruit. All of it. Even "sweet" wines are bitter to me. One of my cousins is the same way and has pretty similar tastes. Which is weird considering that about the only times we saw each other growing up was at relatives' funerals (great uncle, grandma, grandpa, and his father). Living seven-and-a-half hours away from each other isn't ecactly conducive for family get togethers, but there were two times when we did make the trip, and one summer when we met in  the Arbuckle foothills of Oklahoma (roughly halfway).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 04 May 2019, 23:41
Put me in the "I never drink… wine" camp as well.