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Title: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 May 2019, 21:14
Trying to keep this poll international friendly. An introspective Memorial Day to my fellow Americans, though.



EDIT: This is all I could think of because I'm pretty sure my D&D character basically has a Mothra egg. BTW, just search "kaiju" on wikipedia to see why this list isn't a lot longer. Too many options.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: dna_level_c on 26 May 2019, 05:22
Gamera is really neat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 26 May 2019, 05:33
Yesterday I learned that the narrator of the English version of Ultraman X is the guy from Supermarket Sweep, and now I really want to see (the English dub of) that movie.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 26 May 2019, 06:20
The Criterion collection edition of Godzilla is really great.  It has the original Japanese version, dubbed OR subtitled, the Raymond Burr version, plus a ton of e tras.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Near Lurker on 26 May 2019, 09:48
EDIT: This is all I could think of because I'm pretty sure my D&D character basically has a Mothra egg. BTW, just search "kaiju" on wikipedia to see why this list isn't a lot longer. Too many options.

...and yet Mothra didn't make the cut?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 26 May 2019, 12:31
Actually the only loosely-defined Kaiju film I've ever liked is the 1998 Godzilla. Furthermore, I'm advised that it is different enough from the mainstream Kaiju genre to not count at all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 May 2019, 12:41
Excuse me, but no Reptilicus? Or Gorgo?

For shame Gyrre, for shame. Hand in your kaiju badge, you're no longer allowed in the club.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 26 May 2019, 14:16
EDIT: This is all I could think of because I'm pretty sure my D&D character basically has a Mothra egg. BTW, just search "kaiju" on wikipedia to see why this list isn't a lot longer. Too many options.

...and yet Mothra didn't make the cut?

Is Mothra a separate franchise to Godzilla?

Excuse me, but no Reptilicus? Or Gorgo?

For shame Gyrre, for shame. Hand in your kaiju badge, you're no longer allowed in the club.
I did say it was a long list and that I'm lazy.
The giant bug genre counts as kaiju according to the wiki page, so I'd have to include Them! and The Fly if I went by the list (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiju). Hell, I didn't include the Japanese live-action Spider series. And that's the origin of sentai series (which I'm going to now add). Generally, I just included franchises that had a series of movies, episodes, or games (or some combination thereof).

EDIT: Frankenstein Conquers The World has a direct sequel titled The War of the Gargantuas, which itself spawned two companion  piece movies.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 May 2019, 15:26
Sir, you may make excuses, but you must still hand in your kaiju badge! And your novelty Godzilla hat! You are banished from the Kaiju Club! For a period of no more than three weeks.


And Mothra is a member of the Toho stable of Kaiju, second only to Godzilla for the number of films she has appeared in (17 films since 1961).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: DashaBlade on 26 May 2019, 15:32
The giant bug genre counts as kaiju according to the wiki page, so I'd have to include Them! and The Fly if I went by the list (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiju).
The list includes the Kool-Aid Man. I think that's the best thing I've seen in a while. :D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Near Lurker on 26 May 2019, 19:16
Is Mothra a separate franchise to Godzilla?

I mean, you didn't say that in the OP, but yes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothra_(film)).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: MrNumbers on 26 May 2019, 19:30
What's the bet May "makes this weird"? I mean, emotionally, not as in with the watermelon and the lube.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 May 2019, 19:53
What's the bet May "makes this weird"? I mean, emotionally, not as in with the watermelon and the lube.
On one hand, Jeph already told that exact story before. (Right down to Sven's partner declaring it a one-time thing, and then making it weird.)

On the other hand, telling that story with a very different ending is a way to illustrate character growth.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 26 May 2019, 20:10
Just a thought.  We're all hot n' bothered about Sven and May getting together.  But when you think about it, aren't Faye and Bubbles engaged, to some extent, rather similar activity?  Albeit the emotional context is pretty much entirely different, it's still a Human/AI sexual relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 26 May 2019, 20:21
*random thought*

It actually IS a thing in real life where folks have gotten company based tats for discounts or freebies.

Dunno if May would, admittedly...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 May 2019, 20:32
True, Sven and May are not breaking new ground in synthetic/organic relations.

I wonder how common s/o sexual relations are in the QC universe. There doesn't seem to be a taboo. We've only seen two, but that's from a small sample.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: badbum61 on 26 May 2019, 21:16
1 x write-in vote for The X From Outer Space.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: DSL on 26 May 2019, 22:12
Expecting any fundamental similarities between Faye-Bubbles and Sven-(whomever, really) simply because each relationship involves one H sap and one humaniform AI is ... well, c'mon.

One involves a guy who wants commitment from his counterpart, but is not willing to put the work in himself, notwithstanding the identity or even basic physical makeup of said counterpart. Steve hit the nail square when he asked Sven, rhetorically, if he always got everything he wanted for Christmas.

The other involves two nascent functional adults who give a damn about each other, know little about the work ahead of them except that there is a lot of it and they're willing to do it, and will likely give something of a damn about each other even if the experiiment fails.

Hardly similar at all, really.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 26 May 2019, 22:59
What's the bet May "makes this weird"? I mean, emotionally, not as in with the watermelon and the lube.
Oh, absolutely!  The lady doth protest too much, or at least too early.  She may be speaking to Sven, but she's talking to May.  It's just a matter of which one will be the first to reveal the tattoo or laser etching.  Who among us hasn't suspected Sven would turn into a decent person once he grew up?  And May is no exception to the rule that even the most prickly hard-asses are that way to protect their sweet and tender innards.  Jeph may take it in another direction, but this scenario offers lots more romantic comedy fodder than other alternative plot lines.

I still think Mrs. Bartholomew Punchbot is a bigshot human academic and one of the people who evaluated Evie's paper (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3652).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 26 May 2019, 23:34
Is Mothra a separate franchise to Godzilla?

I mean, you didn't say that in the OP, but yes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothra_(film)).

I'm more of a Gamera guy, and I'm an admited "filthy casual". XD
I find it best not to get too bent out of shape over fandom stuff* (unless it's really messed up). And engaging with self-appointed gatekeepers is usually varying degrees of annoying.

Should I nuke the pole results since I've added my two most egregious errors?
Roughly 5 or 6 hours ago.

EDIT: Typo fix and enlarging text.
EDIT: additional typo fix
*Apparently there's still gee-wunners who bicker over which color Frenzy and Rumble are.


EDIT: I nuked the poll.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 27 May 2019, 00:15
I think that this strip has pretty much the most stereotypical examples of Sven and May that we've seen for some time. Both of them are light-hearted and are experts at emotional avoidance. So you have a comedic double-act so both of them avoid having to consider their emotions too closely during conversation.

May, if you think that Lockheed have any interest in butt-based advertisements, you know them not. They put their stuff in Flight International or on the side of space rockets, nowhere else. Seriously, though, you still want to be a fighter jet, don't you girl? I still say you need to find out if Ellicott-Chatham are recruiting AI autopilots for any of their shuttle planes!

What's the bet May "makes this weird"? I mean, emotionally, not as in with the watermelon and the lube.

I'm not convinced at this point that the thing between Sven and May is going to go any further than them hanging out during May's breaks and needling each other good-naturedly. Both of them are behaving in a way that suggests that they have no real interest in a return engagement. It might happen but only due to continued mutual curiosity.

The key outcome of this arc, IMO, is that May will be more willing to consider approaching someone she is attracted to and that Sven will be able to look at synthetics and not see issues to prevent a hook-up
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: andrybak on 27 May 2019, 05:04
True, Sven and May are not breaking new ground in synthetic/organic relations.

I wonder how common s/o sexual relations are in the QC universe. There doesn't seem to be a taboo. We've only seen two, but that's from a small sample.

Could you please decipher "s/o"? :?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 May 2019, 05:29
Synthetic/organic, as used in the previous sentence.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Case on 27 May 2019, 06:33
By their standards, those are practically vows of eternal wuff!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 27 May 2019, 06:42
About the poll, why not add Cthulhu?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 27 May 2019, 06:57
To each their dream. May is dreaming of a Lockheed-Martin sponsorship...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 May 2019, 07:09
About the poll, why not add Cthulhu?
Because he'd win.
jk jk
I mostly did the poll on traditional Kaiju movies, tv series, and video games (and laziness) that had multiple entries in at least one continuity. I'm still not sure how I know F.C.t.W. has a sequel, but I think it was either from a comicbook adaptation, or a Simpson comicbook parody.

EDIT: I didn't know it had three sequels until I read the wikipage, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 27 May 2019, 08:51
My late Write-in to the poll is the Gauna (奇居子) only because I was encouraged this weekend at Anime North (https://www.animenorth.com/live/) to re-watch Kights of Sidonia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Sidonia)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Nepiophage on 27 May 2019, 10:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOKvFyNquM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XOKvFyNquM)
2 Guys fighting in complete darkness, except for both wearing luminous condoms
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 27 May 2019, 10:55
One involves a guy who wants commitment from his counterpart, but is not willing to put the work in himself, notwithstanding the identity or even basic physical makeup of said counterpart.

I think this is incredibly uncharitable towards Sven as we have seen him recently in the comic, hell it isn't even an accurate description of him before.

Yeah, he was a disaster during his last time he was a regular, but that was also quite a while back in the comic, but Faye was the one who wanted commitment without having to put in the work of it being an actual relationship. Sven has always seemed fine if people weren't committed to him (other than the like 2-3 strips where he tried to win Faye back, which were yes dumb, but I don't think I would characterize that time period as "not wanting to put in the work himself" as much as not knowing how), in fact, past Sven would have preferred women not commit at all to him. No guilt that way.

I find it weird how often people see characters in the comics as "protagonists and antagonists" rather than just people being people.

To elaborate on the "protagonists and antagonists" bit. Every single thing we've seen Sven do from showing up at the bar to todays strip has been A+ good dude. But still, people have to come into the thread to shit on him despite the fact that in this interaction he's done literally nothing wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 27 May 2019, 11:07
King of Monsters coming up. So hyped.

Y'all making predictions about whether the ship pans out, when I'm just sitting here waiting to see how it unfolds. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 May 2019, 13:36
My late Write-in to the poll is the Gauna (奇居子) only because I was encouraged this weekend at Anime North (https://www.animenorth.com/live/) to re-watch Kights of Sidonia. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_Sidonia)

*kicks self for forgetting to include anime*

Ja, I might just nuke the poll so I can throw in two more options.


I nuked the poll results to include multiple corrections.
Still focusing on series of movies, TV/web shows, and videogames.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: oddtail on 27 May 2019, 13:52
Still no "Pacific Rim" on the list, which would probably be my favourite, but Evangelion is good enough for me, so I voted for it ;)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 May 2019, 13:54
Still no "Pacific Rim" on the list, which would probably be my favourite, but Evangelion is good enough for me, so I voted for it ;)

Oh right, there was a sequel.
I'm not nuking the poll again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 27 May 2019, 14:03
Still no "Pacific Rim" on the list, which would probably be my favourite, but Evangelion is good enough for me, so I voted for it ;)
And no Atlantic Rim, either.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 May 2019, 14:33
BIG GUY AND RUSTY!!!

So glad I included Kaiju Girls as a place holder. I finally remembered the series that was nagging at the back of my mind.
EDIT: Also Voltron. Dammit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 27 May 2019, 17:47
What is it with the different colours? Anyway, they seem like they're gonna fuck again. I don't see what you're discussing that much.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 May 2019, 19:23
I'm betting that Dale sticks to not prying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 May 2019, 19:25
Dale is a smart guy.

Also, its a good tactic to deflect how bad a liar you are by complementing someone. It throws them off their game and you save yourself some pocket sand.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: DaiJB on 27 May 2019, 19:40
Dale is the stern Dad?    :lol:

(Actually, Dale would probably make a great Dad!)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 27 May 2019, 19:42
Dale is the stern Dad?    :lol:

(Actually, Dale would probably make a great Dad!)

Marigold: "I'll call you Daddy."

May: "Eww eww ick TMI!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 27 May 2019, 20:25
What's with the random bolding of words in May's last speech bubble? It doesn't seem to be a very natural pattern of emphasis (though on re-reading it seems less jarring than it did initially).

I think it'd be better with the bolding removed on "you", "talking", "now", and perhaps "intended", and added to "isn't". Of course, that's just my opinion, which is worth as much as you paid to read it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 May 2019, 20:33
To paraphrase MST3k, just relax, its only a punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Case on 27 May 2019, 20:48
May is remarkably not-nonchalant about this ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 27 May 2019, 22:30
Dale is the stern Dad?    :lol:

(Actually, Dale would probably make a great Dad!)

Not would, will.  Sooner or later he and Marigold are gonna spawn.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 27 May 2019, 23:24
This strip was just beautiful and I've been laughing about it since I first saw it.

The first point of this strip is the revelation is that May does care enough about other people's opinions of her so that she can do the Walk of Shame. Enough to lie about something that, at most, would inspire Dale to ask if she had a good time and drop the matter (because he obviously respects her autonomy). It suggests to me that this has been a stronger emotional experience than she was expecting.

The second point is something that we've known for a long time and that is that May really likes Dale but feels unable to admit it because she's so committed to this 'misanthropic curmudgeon' persona that she's always using. It's tragic in a way that she has such a hard time admitting that Dale might be her friend. Historically, other people have had to tell her that they're her friends (like Momo) and she's been happy to have them. It's just a reminder of how profoundly hurt she's been by her past misadventures.

May is remarkably not-nonchalant about this ...

Yeah, I have to agree with all the people who say that, if anyone is going to be 'weird about this', it's going to be May. It seems to be Sven's curse that he has casual hook-ups and is just so good at it that it turns casual interest into full-blown attraction. We'll see where this goes because, as first boyfriends go, he's just about the most challenging option.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 27 May 2019, 23:55
Gamera is really neat.

/He is filled with turtle meat/
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 27 May 2019, 23:58
Actually the only loosely-defined Kaiju film I've ever liked is the 1998 Godzilla. Furthermore, I'm advised that it is different enough from the mainstream Kaiju genre to not count at all.

That would be GINO (Godzilla in name only) you're talking about, and no, he doesn't count.  It was Jurassic Park in New York.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 28 May 2019, 01:27
So now I ge why May got caught when she couldn't resist the impulse to steal 750 millions. She really is a terrible liar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 28 May 2019, 03:28
Personally, I think May may need some time to process all of this.
Also, I think she even said out loud that she's thankful Dale took her in both as hologram and physical person. And I think that's why she was invested in making the Marbear/Dale thing work, both helping initiating it, and keeping it up. Also, gross exchange of even grosser bodily fluids.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Case on 28 May 2019, 09:53
May is remarkably not-nonchalant about this ...
Yeah, I have to agree with all the people who say that, if anyone is going to be 'weird about this', it's going to be May.

We are Legion ... but who else is Legion, too?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 28 May 2019, 10:28
Actually the only loosely-defined Kaiju film I've ever liked is the 1998 Godzilla. Furthermore, I'm advised that it is different enough from the mainstream Kaiju genre to not count at all.

That would be GINO (Godzilla in name only) you're talking about, and no, he doesn't count.  It was Jurassic Park in New York.

Which movie did Toho include him in, call him 'Zilla', and have him get one-shot?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 May 2019, 10:52
2004's Godzilla: Final Wars, 29th film in the Godzilla franchise, 28th produced by Toho, and the sixth and final film in the Millennium series. Largely served as the 50th anniversary film of the original Godzilla film.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 28 May 2019, 11:54
I so regularly read this on my phone that looking at today's comic on my laptop to see if I was up to date blew my mind.

Jeph's art has got REALLY good lately. I love May's expression when she's trying to sneak in in the first panel.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 28 May 2019, 12:27
Personally, I think May may need some time to process all of this.

Although it's probably out of May's budget, I wonder if AIs in the QCverse can pay for time on a cluster in order to help them deal with their issues more quickly WRT the outside world?  It might speed up the process of therapy, or at least allow them to put their external lives virtually on hold while they work through some things.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 May 2019, 12:48
Raising the question, why does the support group meet physically?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 28 May 2019, 12:49
Jeph has said before that a lot of AIs do some human shit 1. because nobody knows why 2. because they want to do shit like humans do, hasn't he?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 28 May 2019, 17:40
I am now picturing May's butt plastered with stickers like a NASCAR entrant.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 May 2019, 18:00
Raising the question, why does the support group meet physically?

I would imagine that if a group of AI were to meet digitally, it wouldn't have the same impact as physically being there, in fact, I would go as far to say that its like ringing a support line instead of going to a support group. Yes, you get someone talking to you, but its not the same as them looking at you and saying the words to you. One is impersonal, the other reinforces the idea that you aren't alone.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 28 May 2019, 18:06
Meeting digitally would involve merely dedicating processor capacity.  Meeting physically requires commitment.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 May 2019, 18:14
We've seen one example of them preferring to meet virtually, when Eminence Grise confronted Corpse Witch.

I can see the signalling argument, where showing up says by implication "I'm committed enough to this to drive here and back".

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 May 2019, 18:20
We've seen one example of them preferring to meet virtually, when Eminence Grise confronted Corpse Witch.


That's different. That's akin to Batman taking a criminal to the top of a skyscraper so he can interrogate them while threatening to drop them.

Also, no witnesses.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: War Sparrow on 28 May 2019, 19:47
Comic!

How wholesome!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 28 May 2019, 20:22
Momo and Marbear have Claire's patented squee! eyes.  Nice.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 28 May 2019, 20:39
The girls really have a... unclear mental image of May, really.  :lol: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: badbum61 on 28 May 2019, 20:40
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: zisraelsen on 28 May 2019, 20:42
I think an all-night petting zoo would be mostly bats.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: badbum61 on 28 May 2019, 20:45
I think an all-night petting zoo would be mostly bats.

I think it would be utterly bats***!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Onionvolcano on 28 May 2019, 20:47
Marigold's a clear-skinned buxom nerd beauty.  It's eevie-lution.

Dale seems to be using his augmented reality glasses again, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Ravenswing on 28 May 2019, 21:10
The irony is that there IS a petting zoo in the area; there's a section of the Forest Park Zoo in Springfield (about 20 minutes south of Northampton) that allows petting.  Of course it closes at dusk, but Forest Park is a very large (and heavily forested) civic park that's very easy to get into at night, and the zoo's pretty close to the main entrance.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 28 May 2019, 21:24
It's tragic in a way that she has such a hard time admitting that Dale might be her friend. Historically, other people have had to tell her that they're her friends (like Momo) and she's been happy to have them. It's just a reminder of how profoundly hurt she's been by her past misadventures.
My favourite example is here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3580):

'The minute you say anything's bugging you she's all "I am so sorry, how may I be of assistance, wee wah wee wah".'
'I'm not a professional, but I'm pretty sure what you're describing is "friendship".'
'I guess.'
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Case on 28 May 2019, 22:03
Can't wait to see May's face when Momo asks her about the secret all night petting zoo ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 28 May 2019, 22:30
I’m thinking the delusion of a petting zoo is preferable to the truth as far as Momo is concerned. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 28 May 2019, 23:21
It probably tells us a lot of how sweet and innocent Momo is that this is automatically the first option that jumps into her mind. I suppose that, in some ways, Momo doesn't know how right she is. May's source of embarrassment is something that she wouldn't admit to because it doesn't mesh with her public persona!

Additionally, with regard to Marigold and Momo's reactions to the idea: So say us all!

Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??

I credit entirely Dale. Having him around is motivating her to greater levels of self-care and a slightly healthier lifestyle. If nothing else, she's getting lots of exercise (much to Momo and May's annoyance)!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 29 May 2019, 00:35
The kind of exercise they are getting is likely to make one's face pretty greasy, mind.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 29 May 2019, 01:09
Secret all night petting session. It's not that far from reality...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 29 May 2019, 01:17
Raising the question, why does the support group meet physically?

It might be a legal thing for may - simply because the law has no digital support group section.
Apart from that, it may teach them how to deal with individuals who simply can't use digital only, like humans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 29 May 2019, 01:54
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??

Changes in hormones because of regular sexual activity is a thing and can lead to this change without the need for medication.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 29 May 2019, 06:55
It's tragic in a way that she has such a hard time admitting that Dale might be her friend. Historically, other people have had to tell her that they're her friends (like Momo) and she's been happy to have them. It's just a reminder of how profoundly hurt she's been by her past misadventures.
My favourite example is here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3580):

'The minute you say anything's bugging you she's all "I am so sorry, how may I be of assistance, wee wah wee wah".'
'I'm not a professional, but I'm pretty sure what you're describing is "friendship".'
'I guess.'
She doesn't really go "wee wah wee wah" though. That was unfair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 29 May 2019, 09:24
Secret all night petting session. It's not that far from reality...
Yup.  A heavy petting zoo.  And then some.

Jeph likes writing romantic comedy and he's good at it.  These two are going to offer lots of opportunities for us to watch as they work through the due process of the Law of Funny.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 29 May 2019, 13:10
I so regularly read this on my phone that looking at today's comic on my laptop to see if I was up to date blew my mind.

Jeph's art has got REALLY good lately. I love May's expression when she's trying to sneak in in the first panel.

Eh - actually i'd say he peaked around the late 2000s-early 3000s.  Compare the current art here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3989) with the same bunch here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2798).  The current stuff strikes me as more 'cartoonish' compared to the greater realism of the previous work.  The lips are the most obvious difference.  Jeph is obviously capable of doing both styles so he must have made the change for a reason.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 29 May 2019, 13:11
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??

Changes in hormones because of regular sexual activity is a thing and can lead to this change without the need for medication.

Also, just being on birth control can clear it up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: sitnspin on 29 May 2019, 13:32
The kind of exercise they are getting is likely to make one's face pretty greasy, mind.
Sex is actually good for the complexion.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Thrillho on 29 May 2019, 14:26
The kind of exercise they are getting is likely to make one's face pretty greasy, mind.
Sex is actually good for the complexion.

See that's interesting, because I felt like I knew that, but had zero science to back it up.

Might make you greasy of face in the specific moment, mind. Especially if your partner has oily skin like mine.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 29 May 2019, 15:30
These are not formal medical references, so take them with a pinch of salt:

Effects of hormone levels on skin (https://www.sharecare.com/health/acne-skin-pimples/role-sex-hormones-acne-formation)
So, maybe sex improves the balance of the hormones and so reduces acne that has built up in frustrated teens?
Well, some people seem to think it could (https://www.acnease.co.uk/acne-treatment-blog/can-sex-help-treat-acne-the-7-skin-health-benefits-of-sex.htm).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 29 May 2019, 15:38
Eh - actually i'd say he peaked around the late 2000s-early 3000s.  Compare the current art here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3989) with the same bunch here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2798).  The current stuff strikes me as more 'cartoonish' compared to the greater realism of the previous work.  The lips are the most obvious difference.  Jeph is obviously capable of doing both styles so he must have made the change for a reason.

I recall him switching tools from Photoshop to Manga Studio, and I think it was somewhere in that period. Could easily be some differences in the tools encouraging stylistic shift?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Somebody on 29 May 2019, 19:33
...what's up with Mono's fringe? Didn't she spend a(nother) day upside down in corrosive liquid to have it NOT be that short?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: alc40 on 29 May 2019, 19:49
If so, her hair in  comic 3854 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3854) doesn't look much different from the previous comic where she said she wanted to lengthen it.  Her comment in the first panel could mean that Bubbles said it looked nice after a 2nd round in the vat, or it could just mean that Bubbles convinced her it looked fine as is and Momo didn't need to go another round.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: SmilingCat on 29 May 2019, 19:52
Hey Dale, for future reference, some folks consider gossiping about what they might have done last night to be at least related to prying.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 29 May 2019, 20:06
Hey Dale, for future reference, some folks consider gossiping about what they might have done last night to be at least related to prying.  :-P

On the other hand, it could also be seen as Dale expressing concern for May and not wanting his friend to end up in Robot Jail again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 29 May 2019, 20:18
Comic's up and I don't know what's going in Friday's comic, but I imagine Monday's is going to involve a pin to hard reset Momo!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 29 May 2019, 20:19
Don't ask, Momo. Or you'll need Robot Brain Bleach.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 29 May 2019, 20:27
I believe that's called "rm -rf"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 29 May 2019, 20:33
Yes, Momo, you will have questions. Some, however, you won't want to hear the answer.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 29 May 2019, 20:52
Well, I guess Momo's finding out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 29 May 2019, 20:55
I think an all-night petting zoo would be mostly bats.

I think it would be utterly bats***!
And oppossum and raccoons.

Marigold's a clear-skinned buxom nerd beauty.  It's eevie-lution.

Dale seems to be using his augmented reality glasses again, though.

He's probably just worried about May and looking up possible explanations. And "all-night petting zoos" with SafeSearch turned ON.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 29 May 2019, 20:57
I believe that's called "rm -rf"
Not sure that I want to know.
I've been on the internet long enough to know I'm probably better off not knowing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 29 May 2019, 21:01
You don't want to know about the delete command on Linux?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 29 May 2019, 21:15
not just delete, but do so recursively, and force it on files that don't want to be deleted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 29 May 2019, 21:58
Lol, it looks like - although she has a humanoid body now - Momo is still a Chibi Anime toy doll inside. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Shjade on 29 May 2019, 22:12
This is easily the most human Momo's ever looked. Seems so comfortable!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TV4Fun on 29 May 2019, 22:28
So much for not prying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 May 2019, 22:34
The strip has always derived humor from boundaries being crossed.

I like to imagine that if May were my friend I would have respected her privacy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: MrNumbers on 29 May 2019, 22:43
Conflict is core to storytelling. The trick is just finding the conflict that's natural to the characters.

I think it's a contrived jump from "It could have been a midnight petting zoo" to "It was, for a fact, a petting zoo", though. But it makes for a very clever punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 29 May 2019, 22:52
Ok, is it me or Momo looks a bit... older phisically?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 29 May 2019, 23:02
As far as I can tell, her apparent age changes along with the art style at various points, or perhaps as Jeph needed (she seems to look younger when around Sam, for example).  Then again, I'm not the best judge, being at an age where I'm still not over the hill, but think that anyone who looks ≤ 25 looks like a kid.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 29 May 2019, 23:16
Ah! So we're going with the classic comedic joke of 'two people talking about different things but assuming that the other knows what they're really talking about'! That kind of works in this scenario, especially as Jeph has made it clear that May can't plausibly lie to save her life. It thus becomes inevitable that she's going to let enough slip for Momo to deduce what she did without necessarily with whom.

Momo's body language and expressions in this strip are hilarious! It could be a schoolgirl animé, couldn't it? Usa-chan asking Moko-chan what she did last night that led her to come into the dorm so late? Once again, that fits because of Momo and May's levels of maturity do seem in most ways to be at about 'high school graduate' levels.

On the subject of Momo's body language, did anyone else think her posture and outline in panel 2 was a trace of an earlier Emily appearance?

I think it's a contrived jump from "It could have been a midnight petting zoo" to "It was, for a fact, a petting zoo", though. But it makes for a very clever punchline.

It's not contrived when you remember from yesterday's strip that the petting zoo was Momo's suggestion about what May had been doing. So, Momo isn't looking for the truth but rather validation of her own personal version of reality. Most fan-theorists get wedded to their head-canons like that!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 29 May 2019, 23:31
So very very glad I waited to take the next bite of my lunch until after I finishex reading this one.
I would have choked to death laughing if I hadn't.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: ZoeB on 30 May 2019, 03:36
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: oddtail on 30 May 2019, 04:02
As usual, I don't have anything smart or insightful to say.

But - I really like today's comic. It's funny, and I genuinely like where this is going. It has potential for both comedy and interesting non-funny interactions.

Can't wait to see what's next.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Morituri on 30 May 2019, 07:29
Raising the question, why does the support group meet physically?

It probably makes it easier for those who have parole officers to verify that they're not leaving the area.  Physically at least.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Morituri on 30 May 2019, 07:30
May is remarkably not-nonchalant about this ...

I dunno,  how cholant could she be, really, if she were trying to keep it a secret?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Morituri on 30 May 2019, 07:42
I think an all-night petting zoo would be mostly bats.

Bats are probably a poor choice.  They tend to panic when large mammals move nearby.  And occasionally, panic on the aggressive side with a sacrificial kamikaze going on a no-hope attack to buy time for the rest to escape. Small children could get claw marks or bleeding bites and be traumatized.  Depending on how carefully cared for and selected the bats are, there could even possibly be a risk of rabies.

I can't think of any nocturnal animals of North America that would react well to petting. Other than domestic cats, and besides being too familiar to people for a petting zoo to be an experience, they hardly count as nocturnal anymore.  Coyotes and Bobcats can (sort of) become accustomed to humans, but I've never heard of one tolerating more than a very small closed set of humans.  A bobcat can be friends with one or two humans, tops.  Any unfamiliar humans will be treated the way wild bobcats treat humans (ie, panic and run). Casting a broader net, I think maybe lemurs are reasonably okay with people, assuming the people bring treats? 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 30 May 2019, 09:54
At first glance it looked like the poster behind May was advertising a drink called "Hot Guilt."  Must be the Catholic school survivor in me coming out.   Momo rushing in, pony tail flapping in the slipstream - excellent!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 30 May 2019, 10:18
On the subject of Momo's body language, did anyone else think her posture and outline in panel 2 was a trace of an earlier Emily appearance?

My reaction was 'Emily does not have pink hair. This must be Momo'.

-----

The Utica zoo, summer 1970. I was peacefully minding my own business when something yanked on my hair. A llama had walked up behind me and wondered how my hair tasted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 30 May 2019, 18:55
So much for not prying.

Technically Dale isn't prying, Momo is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: SmilingCat on 30 May 2019, 19:42
Ok, is it me or Momo looks a bit... older phisically?

I feel like she tends to wear looser clothing most of the time, which tends to make her look younger.

Also you don't have her standing next to a human in that comic, so her shorter height isn't apparent.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 30 May 2019, 20:08
Comic!

...And the penny dropped.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 30 May 2019, 20:15
Next week is going to be rather interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 30 May 2019, 20:26
I'm thinking May won't tell her because Momo is such a innocent.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 30 May 2019, 20:37
I'm thinking May won't tell her because Momo is such a innocent.

...
...
...
You do realise that Momo is friends with Pintsize and May, right? Whatever innocence she had was washed away years ago in a wave of porn gifs and sub-reddit links.

Now, you'd be more accurate to say that Momo is naive, at least from my perspective.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 May 2019, 20:37
Momo lives with Dale and Marigold and their amorous noises. She probably won't be shocked at the idea of sex.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 30 May 2019, 20:42
And it's not like Momo hasn't had lustful thoughts, specifically about Sven.  I just hope that she and May are able to talk things out without zappage going on.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 30 May 2019, 21:20
Jeph's art has got REALLY good lately. I love May's expression when she's trying to sneak in in the first panel.
Eh - actually i'd say he peaked around the late 2000s-early 3000s.  Compare the current art here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3989) with the same bunch here: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2798).  The current stuff strikes me as more 'cartoonish' compared to the greater realism of the previous work.  The lips are the most obvious difference.  Jeph is obviously capable of doing both styles so he must have made the change for a reason.
I have to look carefully to see those differences - the one thing that annoys me is having gone back to the "everyone has a super-pointy chin" style after having more realistic face shapes in the 1000s. I guess different people notice different things.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 30 May 2019, 21:51
Further on the subject of art, i just noticed the black eyeliner/spikes at the upper outside of each eye Momo has.  I was going to say she looks good with them, but i can see them on May and Bubbles too at least.  So i think that Jeph has come up with another subtle way to distinguish AIs from humans.  Like the square vs round speech bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: brasca on 30 May 2019, 22:16
Momo lives with Dale and Marigold and their amorous noises. She probably won't be shocked at the idea of sex.

No.  But she may be jealous if she finds out who her partner was.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 30 May 2019, 23:18
This wasn't a penny dropping. This was a sack of pennies falling on Momo's head after it fell out of the upstairs window of a bank.

Based on Momo's expression in panel 5, May does not have to do much but confirm what Momo has already deduced. The question is whether May will tell her with whom she did the deed and whether a conversation will ensue about the difference between 'relationship' and 'sex as uncommitted recreation'. Momo strikes me as the sort of person who would have problems accepting that the latter is actually possible.

Jeph did a lot of good work with the art today; I particularly like how he did the crowded street in panel 1; it's a lot more complex than how he normally does these things. One thing I did notice though is that Momo is blushing like a human rather than having the little tint panels on her cheeks light up the way he normally does with anthropomimetic synthetics.

Further on the subject of art, i just noticed the black eyeliner/spikes at the upper outside of each eye Momo has.  I was going to say she looks good with them, but i can see them on May and Bubbles too at least.  So i think that Jeph has come up with another subtle way to distinguish AIs from humans.  Like the square vs round speech bubbles.

Actually, that's how Jeph identifies a figure as female. Dora  and Emily have them too; I think Tai, Faye and Claire do too but it's a bit too early in the day to go searching for panels of them without their glasses on.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: MrNumbers on 31 May 2019, 00:07
Momo does have a canonical crush on Sven so...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: oddtail on 31 May 2019, 01:04
Is it an art style change, or are Momo's blush panels, like, super high tech?

Been recently rereading the comic (not the entirely, but a whole lot), and blushing Bubbles/May/Roko are, from what I recall, always depicted as having somewhat animesque, short straight lines on their cheeks. And Roko's chassis is probably towards the high-end in terms of quality.

EDIT: no, sorry. I remember Roko's coworker blushing similarly (her entire face being red), and her face wasn't extremely humanlike. I think that just indicates super-intense blushing that goes beyond the narrow short line. Or maybe there are just two kinds of blush panels, depending on which aesthetic the manufacturer is going for.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 31 May 2019, 01:20
Further on the subject of art, i just noticed the black eyeliner/spikes at the upper outside of each eye Momo has.  I was going to say she looks good with them, but i can see them on May and Bubbles too at least.  So i think that Jeph has come up with another subtle way to distinguish AIs from humans.  Like the square vs round speech bubbles.

I have seen them on Dora, too...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Somebody on 31 May 2019, 03:47
So, which strip is thr other flashback pamel from?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 31 May 2019, 05:09
Please join us readers as we begin the newest class in the QC college: AI and Human interactions using Lube, watermelons, dolphins, and a rain stick.  Taught by the humble Professor Maye.  Class is required to bring their own 55 gallon drums of lube, melon ballers, yellow polka dotted feather boas, watermelons, and play sand.  Epi-Pens are suggested.  Please do not apply to this class if you have any allergies to Peanuts, industrial solvents, Red Dye #5, Llama's or adhesive. 

Please fill out all contact forms before arrival, any forms submitted without emergency contact or next of kin will be rejected. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 31 May 2019, 05:48
Further on the subject of art, i just noticed the black eyeliner/spikes at the upper outside of each eye Momo has.  I was going to say she looks good with them, but i can see them on May and Bubbles too at least.  So i think that Jeph has come up with another subtle way to distinguish AIs from humans.  Like the square vs round speech bubbles.

I have seen them on Dora, too...
That just means that Dora is a Cylon.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: chetoos8 on 31 May 2019, 06:00
So, which strip is thr other flashback pamel from?
3304, but something cool is that the flashback panels aren't just copy pastes from the previous comics, but redraws from the character's perspective, that's a very cool way to do things, Jeph, good job!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Nepiophage on 31 May 2019, 06:54
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??
Oral contraceptive pills can cure acne. I remember when I was at college a girl whose complexion suddenly improved would be the subject of knowing smiles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 31 May 2019, 07:11
May's surprised faces in that arc are really priceless  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 31 May 2019, 10:53
Further on the subject of art, i just noticed the black eyeliner/spikes at the upper outside of each eye Momo has.  I was going to say she looks good with them, but i can see them on May and Bubbles too at least.  So i think that Jeph has come up with another subtle way to distinguish AIs from humans.  Like the square vs round speech bubbles.
As noted, it eyeliner on female characters (or rather on characters who wear eyeliner, most of whom are female).

Rectangular speech bubbles usually mark an AI, but there are exceptions.  Momo in particular appears to have a more HiFi human voice that she uses from time to time in addition to her default robot voice.   She is, after all, a student of human customs and social behavior. 

Or Jeph may have forgotten to draw the robovoice rectangles in those strips.  But, I only remember it happening with Momo and it fits the character, so I'll keep that in my headcanon unless Jeph says it ain't.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 31 May 2019, 11:04
Momo is not blushing the same way as Bubbles. Strange...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 31 May 2019, 11:20
Momo is not blushing the same way as Bubbles. Strange...

Perhaps not.  Momo is a civilian model, designed to blend in with the human population.   Whereas Bubbles is military, perhaps a less broad set of expression software.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: oddtail on 31 May 2019, 11:34
Momo is not blushing the same way as Bubbles. Strange...

Perhaps not.  Momo is a civilian model, designed to blend in with the human population.   Whereas Bubbles is military, perhaps a less broad set of expression software.

Bubbles - as I mentioned a few posts before - blushes similarly to the way both Roko and May have, in the past. So I don't think that's about "military vs civilian". I still think it has to do with the intensity of emotion, or perhaps it's just an art inconsistency (I think the former, though).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Roborat on 31 May 2019, 12:39
Momo has a quite impressive mind there, managing to come to the right conclusion with so little data.  And I see nobody has commented on May's choice of reading matter.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 31 May 2019, 14:19
New here, but just felt moved to comment on the last week or so.

1. May is the second worst person to ask about relationships or sex. The worst, obviously, being Pintsize.
2. Not exactly clear what May would get out of her proposal to Sven. Even if she's mentioned such activity before. The whole robot / human sex thing never made a lot of sense to me anyway.
3. It turns out there was no reason to censor May's chest.
4. From what May has said before, you'd think there would be no reason to censor her bottom, either.
5. May's post-whatever reaction is pretty hostile. It'd ruin the whole experience for me, personally.
6. USB is about 18 watts max even with oddball nonstandard protocols. You're not powering a robot body on that.
7. Do not ever sleep with someone who is deeply ashamed of the idea.
8. It appears Momo is interested, but interested in who? Or maybe it's just a general fascination.
9. Unrelated, but I'm slightly disappointed that Basilisk has never attempted to learn what Human Abs actually look like. Plus, Clinton never catches a break.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 31 May 2019, 14:52
Momo has a quite impressive mind there, managing to come to the right conclusion with so little data.  And I see nobody has commented on May's choice of reading matter.
Reading the cheap porn in a convenience store is so in character for May that no one noticed.  ;)  Also, she has a history of noticing female meatpeople's boobage, specifically Faye's the first time they met.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 31 May 2019, 15:16
3. It turns out there was no reason to censor May's chest.
Have you seen the Patreon version?

6. USB is about 18 watts max even with oddball nonstandard protocols. You're not powering a robot body on that.
Ever since 2012, the USB Power Delivery specification has allowed 20 volts at 5 amps, for 100 watts, with 100% standard protocols. My employer makes some non-standard USB devices that can deliver 130 watts, as well (I'm not sure if anyone else makes anything with higher power output - we have a 180 watt non-standard Thunderbolt 3 device, but it spreads that power over two connectors).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 31 May 2019, 17:00
Reading the cheap porn in a convenience store is so in character for May that no one noticed.  ;)  Also, she has a history of noticing female meatpeople's boobage, specifically Faye's the first time they met.
Marigold's, actually. "Holy crap look at the cans on that one!"

(Dale responded "SO glad she can't hear you....")
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: SpanielBear on 31 May 2019, 17:01
Did Sven tell May his name?

Did May tell him hers?

Neither was obliged to, it can just be that casual. I'm more thinking Momo may not realise exactly who May hooked up with if she just has a vague, May-delivered description to go on.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 31 May 2019, 17:21
1. May is the second worst person to ask about relationships or sex. The worst, obviously, being Pintsize.

You would think so but it was May's advice that both initiated Dale and Marigold's relationship and got them through their first real fight.

Judging by her track record, she's actually one of the best characters to ask about relationships!  The question now is whether or not she can apply her wisdom to her own life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 31 May 2019, 17:23
I hadn't thought of that!

100 watts still might not be enough, depending on how efficient robot bodies are. I believe humans average about that much when stationary, more when moving around. Some fraction of that, I don't know how much but probably a lot, goes to keeping us warm enough to prevent fungal growth. Synthetics can skip that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Nigel on 31 May 2019, 19:09
It's been a while since we had a Friday cliffhanger this good, I think.

So "yay" and "boo hiss" all at once.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Tova on 31 May 2019, 19:50
Momo has a quite impressive mind there, managing to come to the right conclusion with so little data.  And I see nobody has commented on May's choice of reading matter.
Reading the cheap porn in a convenience store is so in character for May that no one noticed.

So in character that no one discussed it, I think. I am certain it was not just you and I that noticed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 31 May 2019, 20:36
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??
Oral contraceptive pills can cure acne. I remember when I was at college a girl whose complexion suddenly improved would be the subject of knowing smiles.

"Birth control" is prescribed for many hormone related issues and the whole class of drugs needs a new common name so the scientifically ignorant stop getting all bent out of shape over them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: chason on 01 Jun 2019, 02:25
New here, but just felt moved to comment on the last week or so.

1. May is the second worst person to ask about relationships or sex. The worst, obviously, being Pintsize.
2. Not exactly clear what May would get out of her proposal to Sven. Even if she's mentioned such activity before. The whole robot / human sex thing never made a lot of sense to me anyway.
3. It turns out there was no reason to censor May's chest.
4. From what May has said before, you'd think there would be no reason to censor her bottom, either.
5. May's post-whatever reaction is pretty hostile. It'd ruin the whole experience for me, personally.
6. USB is about 18 watts max even with oddball nonstandard protocols. You're not powering a robot body on that.
7. Do not ever sleep with someone who is deeply ashamed of the idea.
8. It appears Momo is interested, but interested in who? Or maybe it's just a general fascination.
9. Unrelated, but I'm slightly disappointed that Basilisk has never attempted to learn what Human Abs actually look like. Plus, Clinton never catches a break.

1. Disagree, she might be the best. She has consistently been shown to have a good handle on things when it comes to relationships and sex, even if she is crude.
2. AIs obviously have the ability to physically sense things, why would they not be able to derive pleasure from physical activities?
3. Nope, you are correct here.
4. Here too, fuck Google.
5. Her post-coital reaction might be (I'm hoping) a reaction to feeling a bit less casual about the encounter than she wanted to be. Casual sex is neither as simple as she made it out to be, nor as complicated as it has developed in Sven's head. Sven seemed to take the reaction pretty lightly, I'm guessing its not the first time he's seen it.
6. Magic!
7. Was someone deeply ashamed? I don't think May is ashamed of having sex, but rather that she had a more emotional reaction to it than she intended and she'd rather keep it private. Especially since her "power down" left her vulnerable in a way that she isn't used to. Shame is probably one of the most complicated emotions that exists, and sometimes things that you are ashamed of are the best things to do.
8. Momo is definitely fascinated by sex, as has been shown a number of times in the comic. She's previously had an infatuation with Sven but I don't think she has any real attachment to him besides a physical attraction.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 01 Jun 2019, 05:39
Did Sven tell May his name?

Did May tell him hers?

Neither was obliged to, it can just be that casual. I'm more thinking Momo may not realise exactly who May hooked up with if she just has a vague, May-delivered description to go on.
When they encountered each other in the alley/outside the pub, may was wearing her work shirt with her name tag on it. She was also wearing it while she recharged at Sven’s place. He’d have to be deeply unobservant to miss such a big clue.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 01 Jun 2019, 08:04
Have you seen the Patreon version?
No, but the very next strip shows May's chest without censorship. It turns out she has no nipples. Though honestly, I've never understood why nipples are supposedly obscene.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: hedgie on 01 Jun 2019, 08:12
Australia got all the convicts, the US got the Puritans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 01 Jun 2019, 08:28
1. Disagree, she might be the best. She has consistently been shown to have a good handle on things when it comes to relationships and sex, even if she is crude.
2. AIs obviously have the ability to physically sense things, why would they not be able to derive pleasure from physical activities?
3. Nope, you are correct here.
4. Here too, fuck Google.
5. Her post-coital reaction might be (I'm hoping) a reaction to feeling a bit less casual about the encounter than she wanted to be. Casual sex is neither as simple as she made it out to be, nor as complicated as it has developed in Sven's head. Sven seemed to take the reaction pretty lightly, I'm guessing its not the first time he's seen it.
6. Magic!
7. Was someone deeply ashamed? I don't think May is ashamed of having sex, but rather that she had a more emotional reaction to it than she intended and she'd rather keep it private. Especially since her "power down" left her vulnerable in a way that she isn't used to. Shame is probably one of the most complicated emotions that exists, and sometimes things that you are ashamed of are the best things to do.
8. Momo is definitely fascinated by sex, as has been shown a number of times in the comic. She's previously had an infatuation with Sven but I don't think she has any real attachment to him besides a physical attraction.
1. Obviously that's not my read on it. She always seems to have the shallowest, least-nuanced view, after Pintsize. For example, with her specific advice to Sven, that's not how sexuality works for most people. The psychology of it is complicated, and feelings almost always get involved.

2. The, um, activities she's described in the past generally aren't too rewarding for human women, either. In my relationships, women have done those things because they were interested in giving me pleasure, but derived no particular pleasure from it themselves, and they weren't so, um, enthusiastic about it. The usual expectation was reciprocity, and that it wouldn't happen otherwise. I think May's made clear that reciprocity isn't physically an option for her.

I gather some women do enjoy those things for the activity's own sake, though I've never met one. Being a "giver" sexually doesn't really seem to fit May's personality.

7. Our hopes or reading hidden motivations aside, her immediate reaction was definitely "I don't want anyone to know we did this because they would think less of me." That was quite explicit.

Sven responds that he gets that a lot, which I'd personally find a soul-crushing assessment of my worth, if I had experienced that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 01 Jun 2019, 08:43
I wouldn't read too much into the idea that May found the experience pleasurable for the sensation.

I doubt she enjoyed it for that and more likely think she enjoyed the experience itself.

Its one thing to read about a particular thing, be it from a book or a magazine or a video. Its something else entirely to experience it yourself. Its like looking at a piece of art in a photograph and then seeing it hanging on a wall in front of you. When you see it up close, you see the brush strokes, you see the control, the faults and the corrections. May has gone from seeing the Mona Lisa in a photo to seeing it in the Louvre.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 01 Jun 2019, 09:19
May has gone from seeing the Mona Lisa in a photo to seeing it in the Louvre.

That analogy seems a bit... rarified, given the subject matter. She'd probably say something about clown boys making balloon animals.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 01 Jun 2019, 11:25
Well we needed a little class back in the forum, to make up for all the sass and ass.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Jun 2019, 15:23
Have you seen the Patreon version?
No, but the very next strip shows May's chest without censorship. It turns out she has no nipples. Though honestly, I've never understood why nipples are supposedly obscene.

Ask the people who made Disney put a skirt on Clarabelle Cow to cover her utter.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 Jun 2019, 08:28
Momo used to have a social protocol database. I don't understand the nosiness.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: cesium133 on 02 Jun 2019, 08:36
Just because she has a social protocol database doesn't mean she has to follow it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 02 Jun 2019, 09:55
Momo used to have a social protocol database. I don't understand the nosiness.
Overridden by her Carnal Curiosity sub-routine, much the same as meatfolk.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 02 Jun 2019, 10:50
No, but the very next strip shows May's chest without censorship. It turns out she has no nipples. Though honestly, I've never understood why nipples are supposedly obscene.

Her breasts without nipples are shown in 4009. Her breasts are censored in 4008. Draw your own conclusions (or throw a dollar at Jeph to see for sure, without me having to run to the very edge of the "don't leak Patreon strips" policy to make my point).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: jmsr on 02 Jun 2019, 16:35
Have you seen the Patreon version?
No, but the very next strip shows May's chest without censorship. It turns out she has no nipples. Though honestly, I've never understood why nipples are supposedly obscene.

Breast deliver milk and nipples are the food-delivery system.  I bet you eat in public.  Where other people can watch you.  You pervert! /s

Seriously though, it's probably because nipples show/can show sexual arousal and are erogenous zones.   And as with other cultural views of sex, being able to see them (or bare shoulders, or ankles, or anything except eyes) can affect the behaviour of viewers and therefore gets regulated.  Because it's easier to regulate other people's behaviour than one's own, apparently.  :x
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 02 Jun 2019, 17:29
Marbear's complexion has really cleared up of late. Noxzema or ProActiv??
Oral contraceptive pills can cure acne. I remember when I was at college a girl whose complexion suddenly improved would be the subject of knowing smiles.

I really, really hate the idea of this prompting "knowing smiles" from classmates. BC pills are prescribed for hormonal acne, irregular or very heavy/painful periods, etc. all the time, and being on them is no requirement to have sex. I, for example, was on them for a year in college to get my cycle under control and was a virgin the whole time. I was the type to find it funny to joke about their contraceptive use, but there are plenty of young women and girls (I've personally known 12-14 year olds who needed them for period issues) who would be really uncomfortable with the idea of people assuming they must be having sex just because their skin cleared up. Hell, one of those 14-year-olds almost didn't get to take the medication that made her able to still go to school when she was on her period because of her dad's concern over what people might think! (Dick.) There are also asexual people who take them for the aforementioned reasons. I know you're just sharing something from your college experience, but I need to state for anyone reading this that making assumptions like this is not cool.

Also, some people actually break out from them, which must suck even more when you see others' skin have the exact opposite response.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 03 Jun 2019, 11:23
Staying out of the comic discussion because I don't want to write essays or anything.

But I had to come in and say that you are DISAPPOINTING FOOLS for sleeping on the best kaiju, Godzooky

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Jun 2019, 13:24
But I had to come in and say that you are DISAPPOINTING FOOLS for sleeping on the best kaiju, Godzooky
Godzooky needs to die in a fire, along with Scrappy Doo, and Gremlin the baby dragon of Mongo.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 05 Jun 2019, 01:03
So May actually didn't recognize Sven. And also, Sven didn't recognize May, or so it seems...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 05 Jun 2019, 01:54
And here I'm wondering if anybody remembers the video game series Rampage (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(video_game)) or Earth Defense Force (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Defense_Force).

Oh well, at least one other person remembered Big Guy and Rusty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 05 Jun 2019, 02:14
And here I'm wondering if anybody remembers the video game series Rampage (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(video_game)) or Earth Defense Force (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Defense_Force).

Oh well, at least one other person remembered Big Guy and Rusty.

Rampage even was adapted as a movie with Dwayne Johnson, and that very lately. I don't get why some old game from Amiga-era suddenly got movied in the 2010s...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: bhtooefr on 05 Jun 2019, 02:16
So May actually didn't recognize Sven. And also, Sven didn't recognize May, or so it seems...
Wrong thread, this is last week's thread.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: traroth on 05 Jun 2019, 06:19
So May actually didn't recognize Sven. And also, Sven didn't recognize May, or so it seems...
Wrong thread, this is last week's thread.

I brain-farted, I think. After I posted that comment, I noticed it was in the wrong thread, and I must have cut-pasted it in the exact same thread...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 05 Jun 2019, 11:53
Her breasts without nipples are shown in 4009. Her breasts are censored in 4008. Draw your own conclusions (or throw a dollar at Jeph to see for sure, without me having to run to the very edge of the "don't leak Patreon strips" policy to make my point).
I just assumed Jeph was making a joke out of the censorship bars, and that people who paid to see the uncensored strips got to see May in her Barbie Doll anatomical incorrectness. Subverting expectations, y'know. If that's not the case I'm a tad disappointed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Oenone on 05 Jun 2019, 12:00
I assumed she had nipples that come out when she turns them on, kind of like a hemipenis or something. Or like a dolphins, which is like a retractable penis hand.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 05 Jun 2019, 12:05
That's disturbing. Also feels kind of unlikely since May has made clear her body is a very cheap model with few features.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Jun 2019, 10:58
And here I'm wondering if anybody remembers the video game series Rampage (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(video_game)) or Earth Defense Force (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Defense_Force).

Oh well, at least one other person remembered Big Guy and Rusty.

Rampage even was adapted as a movie with Dwayne Johnson, and that very lately. I don't get why some old game from Amiga-era suddenly got movied in the 2010s...
It's a couple of different things. But, one of the biggest is generally referred to as the 'Mickey Mouse Protection Act' and it's the same reason Disney keeps doing live-action/"live-action" remakes lately -- Disney screwing with copyright and trademark laws in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

The other reason was that it was a "safe" project, i.e. it was a pre-existing franchise with some modicum of name recognition. Hollywood execs are often too scared to greenlight original IPs these days, so we get a lot of bad licensed movies that probably would have been fine had they just been their own thing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 4011-4015 (27th-31st May, 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Jun 2019, 11:13
I assumed she had nipples that come out when she turns them on, kind of like a hemipenis or something. Or like a dolphins, which is like a retractable penis hand.
.....Thanks for the nightmare fuel.