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Title: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Aug 2019, 15:03
The Marvel Cinematic Universe announcement included a TV show called 'What if...?' Comics connoisseurs will recognise the title as Marvel's in-house alternate universe (some seriously 'out there') where the writers speculated on what had happened if some stories had turned out differently or characters had made different choices at key moments. If Jeph wanted to do three weeks of micro-arc comics addressing such alternatives, which ones would you like to see?

It's difficult to choose because the fanfiction writer in me can see the potential in all these options. However, I have to make three choices and, for me, they are:
Vote to be heard!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 18 Aug 2019, 18:10
How do we know Steve isn't STILL doing odd jobs for the CIA? It's not like he could admit it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 18 Aug 2019, 18:22
The most obvious What if? is Marten and Faye as item.

Not that I want to see Jeph go there.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Aug 2019, 18:35
If Vicky had wanted things to work with Marten, this strip would have never happened.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 18 Aug 2019, 18:53
These might get really dark so I'm going to put them under a spoiler.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 18 Aug 2019, 18:55
Comic's up, and I wonder if Claire realises that Cosmo won't care about the collar. All Cosmo will think is "PRESENT!" and "GREY!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DSL on 18 Aug 2019, 18:57
Pet toys and accessories are never for the pets. They're for the humans.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Aug 2019, 23:16
I think that today's guest artist has hit one nail dead on the head: Claire is disturbingly intense when it comes to the subject of Cosmo and her happiness. I strongly suspect that there will be a pet of some kind in Marten and Claire's life soon enough simply because Claire starts to wear her welcome with her mother a bit thin by constantly dropping in to see Cosmo!

The most obvious What if? is Marten and Faye as item.

I agree and that's why I didn't include it in the main list. I wanted to explore other ideas and directions.

If Vicky had wanted things to work with Marten, this strip would have never happened.

Or might have happened in a very different way. Faye may have ended up rooming with Dora and Hannelore may have started hanging out with Sven a lot earlier in the timeline. Meanwhile, Marten is introduced to CoD by Vicky who assures him that the barista watching is 'a constant and never-ending show'.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Aug 2019, 05:13
It's pretty much been established that MartenXFaye would have ended the strip at the 500 mark.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: brasca on 19 Aug 2019, 10:57
Pet toys and accessories are never for the pets. They're for the humans.

And this is really something Claire’s Mom should be deciding. 

Maybe Claire is a tad obsessed because she’s between school and a career.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DSL on 19 Aug 2019, 11:47
Pet toys and accessories are never for the pets. They're for the humans.

And this is really something Claire’s Mom should be deciding. 

Maybe Claire is a tad obsessed because she’s between school and a career.
Logic and boundaries don't apply here in any way that makes sense, because dogs! (and cats! and any other pet!)
Once a year my sister goes on vacation and her cat comes to live with me. Lily is my sister's cat, but I am Lily's provider of squirrel videos and chase-able laser dots and in general enabler of bad habits. This is simply understood.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JimC on 19 Aug 2019, 13:29
Errr Claire. Those aren't hound collars.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 19 Aug 2019, 14:40
Pet toys and accessories are never for the pets. They're for the humans.
Usually, but I wouldn't use the word "never."  Some critters have a pretty good grasp on the idea of personal property & the concept of "MINE!" and will latch on to certain toys, etc., while not giving a rip about the others.  Try, just try, and take the green rubber lizard away from my cousin's dachshund.  The rest of the toys in her toybox are for sharing, but not that one.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 19 Aug 2019, 14:55
Guest comic or not - this doesn't feel too far off for Claire. It's a bit of Guest Hyperbole, and accidentally missing movie time with marten feels on par.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Near Lurker on 19 Aug 2019, 18:49
Someone headbang, dammit!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Aug 2019, 18:51
WHAT IS LOVE? LADY DON'T HURT ME...

(For those who want the full earworm experience...) (https://youtu.be/HEXWRTEbj1I)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 19 Aug 2019, 18:56
Someone headbang, dammit!

Okay.

*Starts headbanging*
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: tomveil on 19 Aug 2019, 19:06
OK, I feel like a tool, because when Winslow chose a pink Deluxe Boy body, I just assumed that meant he was gay, because Pink On Men Must Mean Gay (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinkMeansFeminine), and not just because, y'know, it's a nice color.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tova on 19 Aug 2019, 19:25
New comic.

Jeph Jacques. Baiting shippers since 2003.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Aug 2019, 20:19
That scared me for a sec.

Tho one wonders what W would think of R's bread fetish?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Stoon on 19 Aug 2019, 20:21
Winslow and Roko never met before?   I could have sworn everyone had met everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DaiJB on 19 Aug 2019, 20:30
New comic.

Jeph Jacques. Baiting shippers since 2003.

Heh. Yeah, never give the poor reader a break: -
Is Winslow actually smitten by Roko?...Or is it just a huge annoying coincidence that that song came on just now?
Is Winslow just momentarily dazzled by the (admittedly) hot appearance of Roko?...Or will he be wishing he'd chosen something more stereo-typically macho for a body?  :roll:
Is Winslow thinking "She thinks this song's catchy? It's OUR song now !!!"?...Or is he thinking "Wow, I was stunned by that sudden horrible loud noise..."?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Delator on 19 Aug 2019, 20:43
A+ art on that last panel.

May's face simply oozes contempt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 19 Aug 2019, 21:18
Winslow and Roko never met before?   I could have sworn everyone had met everyone.
The accident happened while Winslow and Hanners were away.  So this is his introduction to the new "deluxe" Roko.  And he appears to be impressed.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: St.Clair on 19 Aug 2019, 21:44
Diegetic music, my one nemesis!

(okay, one of several)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: brasca on 19 Aug 2019, 22:07
I think this ship has as much of a chance as Momo and Sven, but it’s cute all the same. 

And I can sympathize with May.  I worked in a convenience store with a radio we couldn’t change.  I would’ve slit my wrists if I had to listen to the country music channel for more than an hour.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Cornelius on 19 Aug 2019, 22:40
Or is it just a huge annoying coincidence that that song came on just now?
Or does someone have a friend that might just be trying to nudge things along?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: oeoek on 19 Aug 2019, 22:41
Today's comic (4072) reminds me of the immortal words of Obelix when he met a girl named Walhalla: "Wkrstksft!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Timemaster on 19 Aug 2019, 22:42
*bait swallowed*

OMG! I totally ship this! Roko and Winslow are so absolutely not perfect for each other, this has to become a thing.  :-D

There is no way around it. Why? Not only because they are both pink (sort of). They both have state-of-the-art high-end bodies. Roko has an enhanced sensory upgrade and loves tactile experiences. Maybe Winslow does the same? Maybe it’s time to explore something else than the touch of bread?
And not to forget: they both have nipples. Those thingies have to be good for something, don‘t they? :roll:

TM
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Aug 2019, 23:16
The more I think about this, Winslow's insta-crush on Roko really fits in with his teen-sized body. I think that we can all agree that having a surge of attraction for someone is a very, very and uniquely teen/tween experience and reminds us that, for some reason, the chassis does seem to define the behaviour of the AI inhabiting it!

I can't help wonder if Roko noticed or if she thinks that this is a default response by straight guys to her new chassis. More interestingly, is it a default response and just how is she handling that?

Finally, on the subject of in-store music, I'm into 80s and early-90s stuff a lot more than contemporary music. Although this particular track isn't a favourite, I could endure. My only bugbear is shops that insist on playing pounding music at a ear-bleedingly loud volume.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JimC on 20 Aug 2019, 00:49
I think that we can all agree that having a surge of attraction for someone is a very, very and uniquely teen/tween experience
I wouldn't agree with that at all.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 20 Aug 2019, 01:24
And not to forget: they both have nipples. Those thingies have to be good for something, don‘t they? :roll:

Regulating body temperature, and picking up shortwave radio. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ofl_UP3apM)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Eternal_Newbie on 20 Aug 2019, 02:17
So obviously What is Love and Sandstorm are on the play list, but what else?

My votes are Tunak Tun Tun, Ievan Pollka, Bananaphone, Never Gonna Let You Down, You are a Pirate!, the Macarena and for the classic rock fans, The Chicken Song.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Aug 2019, 02:34
As May said it's a radio station, it's probably a 'gold' or 'classical rock' AM or streaming-only station that plays 'Best of the 80s and 90s' compilation CDs on a random shuffle. Also expect performers like Cindi Lauper, Boy George, Duran Duran, Dire Straits and Bon Jovi.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Annemoon on 20 Aug 2019, 02:55
New comic.

Jeph Jacques. Baiting shippers since 2003.

The master of ship related cliff hangers~
It's a culmination of questions.. How will Winslow proceed? Does Roko notice..? What is the chassis update Roko is talking about?!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Meander on 20 Aug 2019, 03:44
"Pleasedtomeetcha" would have done me in, too. Who am I kidding - it totally did.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Welu on 20 Aug 2019, 04:42
Aw, Winslow.

I like Roko for liking What is Love.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 20 Aug 2019, 05:19
"Pleasedtomeetcha" would have done me in, too. Who am I kidding - it totally did.

Couldn't help but notice, Jeph left out the D... !!

I'm a wee bit concerned where this might go...
Winslow turns to MAY for advice (because, you know she's "the best...")
...and Hi-Jinx ensue as Winslow attempts to court Roko using May's suggestions!



Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 20 Aug 2019, 05:51
I wish I had skills to make gifs because I would so be making Roko and Winslow doing the night at the Roxbury head bob with a reluctant disgruntled May following along in the back seat. 

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tova on 20 Aug 2019, 05:53
"Pleasedtomeetcha" would have done me in, too. Who am I kidding - it totally did.

Couldn't help but notice, Jeph left out the D... !!

I'm a wee bit concerned where this might go...

I know, where will this en? ;)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Wingy on 20 Aug 2019, 06:24
Roko has an enhanced sensory upgrade and loves tactile experiences. Maybe Winslow does the same? Maybe it’s time to explore something else than the touch of bread?
Given Winslow's reaction to being licked by a reindeer, I expect a love of tactile feedback may take him a long time to develop.  Not that it wouldn't be fun to watch that developing...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: ischaemia on 20 Aug 2019, 07:07
Did I misunderstand the comic? I took it as Winslow playing the song (ya know because he used to be an iPod) and May covering for Winslow & his blatant Roko infatuation tell because she is a tsundere for all her friends
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Aug 2019, 07:12
It probably would have been pretty obvious to Roko if the music was coming from Winslow instead of the store speakers, so I think it’s safe to assume that it was just a silly coincidence that the song started playing at that moment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Wingy on 20 Aug 2019, 07:28
I just noticed Roko has bunnage, like Sven did when May first noticed him.  What *is* in store for poor little Winslow, if bunnage is actually a signal...   :-o   :laugh:

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Aug 2019, 07:33
My guess is that, if Roko is even aware of Winslow's reaction, she'll treat him like he's a teenager with a crush to let down gently. This may lead to him to prove to her that he is a lot more mature than his small stature might suggest. However, I also wonder if May will get jealous that 'Miss Executive-Quality Chassis' gets all the attention and this may direct her choices when she's given a chance to get a new chassis of her own.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 20 Aug 2019, 07:40
Leave is to Jeph to go with the ONE ship no one was suggesting :P

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting serious "Momo and Sven" vibes here, so we'll see if Winslow can break; out of the "fantasize about from afar" loop.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Bollthorn on 20 Aug 2019, 08:25
Please tell me I'm not the only one now that wants to see sweet little Winslow curled up happily in Roko's lap while she fusses him  :laugh: :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Cheetaur on 20 Aug 2019, 10:41
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure. I do like the fact that Winslow has taken a fancy to Roku...so i hope that goes somewhere. It is probably safe to say that Roku has been around longer than Winslow or she is just more mature for her age. It will be interesting to see what happens now.

So if May gets a new body what if she gets a choice...I bet she would like something like Bubbles chassis....battle ready...LOL
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 20 Aug 2019, 11:13
And I can sympathize with May.  I worked in a convenience store with a radio we couldn’t change.  I would’ve slit my wrists if I had to listen to the country music channel for more than an hour.
At least it's not Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 20 Aug 2019, 11:31
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure.

What is Love, by Haddaway, a Trinidadian-German Eurodance artist. The 1993 song was from his debut album The Album, the song was far more successful in Europe than it was elsewhere, and is one of the most recognisable songs of the 90s.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Cheetaur on 20 Aug 2019, 11:43
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure.

What is Love, by Haddaway, a Trinidadian-German Eurodance artist. The 1993 song was from his debut album The Album, the song was far more successful in Europe than it was elsewhere, and is one of the most recognisable songs of the 90s.


Thanks very much for the info Castlerook, be well.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 20 Aug 2019, 11:51
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure.

What is Love, by Haddaway, a Trinidadian-German Eurodance artist. The 1993 song was from his debut album The Album, the song was far more successful in Europe than it was elsewhere, and is one of the most recognisable songs of the 90s.

Its popularity in the US seems to stem primarly from the SNL sketch where it was used as a stand-in for generic club music in the 90s.  The sketch was so loved, it joined the lineup of SNL sketches-turned-feature-films in "A Night at the Roxbury."  It currently enjoys a certain amount of memetic status alongside "Never Gonna Give You Up" and "Sandstorm."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 20 Aug 2019, 11:58
Yeah, but let's put it this way - the highest the song reached in the US billboard chart was #11.

All across Europe it reached #1. The lowest it reached in the actual EU was #2 in the UK. It was an immensely popular song and when various shows were looking back on music in the run-up to 2000, that song was pretty much guaranteed to be in the top ten of the dance charts.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Roborat on 20 Aug 2019, 12:19
Firstly, that was damn close to a rick roll, nice job Jeph.

Secondly, May's stream of consciousness swearing is almost as good as Sydney's.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 20 Aug 2019, 17:02
I am not at all impressed with Sydney's word salad swears. They lack rhythm. A good swear has meter, just like a poem.
[Sydney from Grrl Power]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 20 Aug 2019, 17:48
Other: the singularity was evil instead.
I guess Winslow found a passion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Case on 20 Aug 2019, 18:16
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure.

What is Love, by Haddaway, a Trinidadian-German Eurodance artist. The 1993 song was from his debut album The Album, the song was far more successful in Europe than it was elsewhere, and is one of the most recognisable songs of the 90s.

This song is a substantial part of why I have issues with my generation.

P. S.: To the person about to fawn over Scooter: You have to ask yourself 'Do I feel lucky?'
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tova on 20 Aug 2019, 18:27
This song is a substantial part of why I have issues with my generation.

Oh? Why is that?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Case on 20 Aug 2019, 18:45
This song is a substantial part of why I have issues with my generation.

Oh? Why is that?

I was under the impression that you have ears?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tova on 20 Aug 2019, 18:52
Okay, that was unnecessary.

Edit: To answer your question: yes, I have ears, but I haven't listened to that awful song in many years, nor do I plan to.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Case on 20 Aug 2019, 19:10
Well, thanks to the 'taste' of Germans of my generation, that 'song' is indelibly etched into my memory due to the airtime it got in '93.

I haven't forgiven them for that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 20 Aug 2019, 19:17
Ok is this song that is supposedly playing over the speakers real? I'm not a big music connoisseur so I miss the ref for sure.

What is Love, by Haddaway, a Trinidadian-German Eurodance artist. The 1993 song was from his debut album The Album, the song was far more successful in Europe than it was elsewhere, and is one of the most recognisable songs of the 90s.

This song is a substantial part of why I have issues with my generation.

P. S.: To the person about to fawn over Scooter: You have to ask yourself 'Do I feel lucky?'
You're preaching to the choir here.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 20 Aug 2019, 19:34
Update!
 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Case on 20 Aug 2019, 19:51
You're preaching to the choir here.

Oh!

I wasn't like, you know ... raving and hollering imprecations at the choir by any chance?

Nevermind.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 20 Aug 2019, 20:02
You? Rant?!

Don't be preposterous!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Aug 2019, 21:02
OK, I feel like a tool, because when Winslow chose a pink Deluxe Boy body, I just assumed that meant he was gay, because Pink On Men Must Mean Gay (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinkMeansFeminine), and not just because, y'know, it's a nice color.
Pink used to be considered a manly color because it's a shade of red. I don't recall exactly when, but I think it was the 1930s or 1940s when that started to change.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: St.Clair on 20 Aug 2019, 21:14
He is glowing (in one panel).
He's got it baaaaaad.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Aug 2019, 23:11
I don't think that what May says in panel 3 is entirely fair. The first cute female anthropomimetic AI that Winslow met was Momo and he didn't respond like this. Yes, I know that they were friends before their chassis upgrades but, if we accept that attraction isn't necessarily intellectual in AIs (as this arc suggests) then that shouldn't be an issue! So, yeah, Roko is a special case and something new for Winslow. That said, I'm already seeing the signs of doom in that she barely notices him!

Now... Has Brun been giving May some off-camera lessons on how to use a harpoon to eject unwelcome customers?

I loved Jeph's footer note! No, May is not 'discerning in her perversions'. She's just found that she enjoyed participating in a particular one largely by luck!

He is glowing (in one panel).
He's got it baaaaaad.

I want to know if that's really happening or if it's just artistic depiction of his reaction. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it's real, given how weird some of the chassis' capabilities seem to be but I'd still like for there to be some kind of explanation!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tova on 21 Aug 2019, 01:00
That would be a pretty good caption contest entry.

Winslow: Unfair, she’s not the first! She’s the second.
May: Right. I take it all back.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 21 Aug 2019, 02:17
That would be a pretty good caption contest entry.

Winslow: Unfair, she’s not the first! She’s the second.
May: Right. I take it all back.

I have to admit I'd LOVE to see Jeph pastiche-ing the Schulz cartoon where Charlie Brown is complaining to Lucy that he can't talk to The Little Red Haired Girl, as he gets nervous around a pretty face...

Cue next three panels of Lucy shouting and yelling about "I NOTICE YOU CAN TALK TO "ME"! *I* HAVE A PRETTY FACE! HOW COME YOU CAN TALK TO ME!?" etc...

I'd love to see May's version of that!  :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Wingy on 21 Aug 2019, 04:46
No, May is not 'discerning in her perversions'.
Absolutely right.  Look who she decided to exercise her perversions with...  The one human pretty much guaranteed to PO every single human female May could reasonably look to for support. 

Why do I keep having a Bubbles and Momo scene with them discussing what Momo should tell May, if May will listen...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 21 Aug 2019, 06:31
Roko's body dysphoria issues haven't been addressed for a while.  Would Winslow's attention tend to reinforce that or reassure her on this point?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Aug 2019, 06:43
Roko might be simply too distracted by work and life to actually pay attention to the body dysphoria.

And remember, we don't see the lives of a character every moment of the day. So there might be instances where Roko thinks about it or worries about it, before calming herself down and starting over.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 21 Aug 2019, 06:52
On pink:
Over a decade ago I worked at an electrical contractor shop, and the big boss was so all-male his balls probably had balls of their own.
He would occasionally be wearing a pink polo shirt.
Pink is manly AF.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: rtmq0227 on 21 Aug 2019, 06:56
Roko's body dysphoria issues haven't been addressed for a while.  Would Winslow's attention tend to reinforce that or reassure her on this point?

I'm still pulling for more Roko/Elliot moments.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Aug 2019, 07:00
On pink:
Over a decade ago I worked at an electrical contractor shop, and the big boss was so all-male his balls probably had balls of their own.
He would occasionally be wearing a pink polo shirt.
Pink is manly AF.
Little remembered fact - there was a time when the colour for newborn baby boys was pink, while blue was for girls. Pink was chosen because it was a more vibrant and outstanding colour compared to the more passive blue. Largely due to how pink is a shade of red.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: cybersmurf on 21 Aug 2019, 08:43
Please tell me I'm not the only one now that wants to see sweet little Winslow curled up happily in Roko's lap while she fusses him  :laugh: :lol:

"Mistress Roko..."


P. S.: To the person about to fawn over Scooter: You have to ask yourself 'Do I feel lucky?'

Hyper lucky.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 21 Aug 2019, 11:31
OK, I feel like a tool, because when Winslow chose a pink Deluxe Boy body, I just assumed that meant he was gay, because Pink On Men Must Mean Gay (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinkMeansFeminine), and not just because, y'know, it's a nice color.
As it has been mentioned already I will help put to rest the misinformation regarding colour then and now.
If you peruse classical European painting you will notice something very peculiar compared to our modern marketing influenced world.

Red was Masculine
Pink was for boys aka, not yet men therefore red-light
This colour remained in fashion into the 50's when the fashion houses and marketing changed everything around so eveeryones wardrobe had to be updated on a regular basis.

Blue was for girls - this is why young males in aristocracy had curls and wore blue just like little girls - it was a survival issue since girls had no value back then and not targetted for kidnapping or assassination.

Also white was for death and funerals [why ghosts are depicted as white due to their funeral shrouds] and black was for formal attire for both genders.
This is where the formal Black Tuxedo and little black dress come from originally since it flatters the human form no matter the design.

That is until Victoria turned everything on it's head and the new mercantile class ran with it.
Then again Victoria and the rest from that time period did as much harm as good when it came to cultural appropriation and runaway mercantilism.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: brasca on 21 Aug 2019, 19:14
Strip is up!

I think May's problem is her delivery.  While she does make a good point that Winslow acknowledges there's nothing wrong with him doing charitable work with an ulterior motive.  As long as Winslow realizes that and doesn't get discouraged if Roko doesn't reciprocate he should go for it.   
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 21 Aug 2019, 19:26
Interesting that May chooses to confide in the teen that she just broomed out of the store.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 21 Aug 2019, 20:13
Awww. Poor Winslow, tho May does have a point...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: St.Clair on 21 Aug 2019, 22:12
May is definitely not wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Cornelius on 21 Aug 2019, 23:06
OK, I feel like a tool, because when Winslow chose a pink Deluxe Boy body, I just assumed that meant he was gay, because Pink On Men Must Mean Gay (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PinkMeansFeminine), and not just because, y'know, it's a nice color.
As it has been mentioned already I will help put to rest the misinformation regarding colour then and now.
(Brevity)
The meaning of colours has changed. One thing all of these explanations lack, however, is an appreciation of local variation, and different meanings being attributed to different shades of one colour. And that's not even touching on the duality that was attributed to most colours.

White, for instance, was death, as the colour of bleached bone - and for a long time stood as the opposite of red, for blood. At the same time, it was the colour of purity: take natural linen, and white is your most dependable colour, no matter how many times you wash and bleach it.

The meaning changing also shows in pink, at a certain period being very firmly associated with violence, and crime. It's not entirely implausible that the connection with homosexuality stems from there, as at that time, making the villain gay just served to add a layer to his villainy.

Blue for girls, on the other hand, has a firm root in mariodoxy, white and blue being the colours associated with the Virgin Mary.
Earth tones, grey, and black were most often connected to humility, and seriousness. There's a connection to the theory of humours to be found there, as well.
But there's no hard and fast rule. Red and blues were simply more easily available, for most of our history.

I do want to note that the notion of differentiating dress between boys and girls for young children, is a relatively recent notion. And up until the age where they would be dressing for their gender, children often went in white, for the simple reason that any accidents could easily be bleached out.

Saying girls had no value, is also doing a great disservice to large periods of our history. Another vice of the Victorians, was to reinterpret history, even their own, to conform to their own mores and expectations.  Medieval studies are only now recovering a more balanced view of those ages, though in many ways, it's still an uphill battle against the Victorian myths that have very heavily influenced the popular image.

Edited for spacing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Aug 2019, 23:16
That's very typical May. She doesn't go out to upset people but she does and she usually instantly regrets it. She then has to wrestle with her pride and her own insecurities to rescue her relationships. I think that she hates that part of herself but doesn't know how to defeat it.

Whilst I agree that nothing good can come from chasing around someone who probably barely even registered that you exist, I do wonder if May has other motives here and realising them is what has let to her feeling so upset. I'm pretty sure that she suffers strongly from chassis envy and the fact that no-one is likely to react to her the way Winslow reacted to Roko drove a lot of her reactions for the past two strips. Is her strongly-defensive reaction to Winslow actually attraction? I can't really say at this point.

That alleged youth sitting on the doorstep of the shop is seriously uncanny valley, aren't they? Either there are some weird cosmetic fashions for teens in the QCverse, Jeph is deliberately referencing a character from animé or someone else's webcomics or they're not entirely human. Hey, we have sentient AIs so why not also a small extraterrestrial population?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Aug 2019, 03:26
Jeph often includes manga/anime references and/or influences in his work.  The teen in this case has eyes which seem to me to be a call-out to the style of the artist responsible for One-Punch Man and Mob 100.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 22 Aug 2019, 05:15
Jeph often includes manga/anime references and/or influences in his work.  The teen in this case has eyes which seem to me to be a call-out to the style of the artist responsible for One-Punch Man and Mob 100.

I was gonna say, something up with the pupils, looks familiar but can't quote put my finger on it.  Not quite Rick and Morty, a bit of one punch but more...  I dunno...  Snake Like?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Wingy on 22 Aug 2019, 06:03
Either there are some weird cosmetic fashions for teens in the QCverse, Jeph is deliberately referencing a character from animé or someone else's webcomics or they're not entirely human. Hey, we have sentient AIs so why not also a small extraterrestrial population?
I vote for cosmetics.  Larger eyebrows have been more noticeable in my area of late among the teens, and that's what's different about this character.  Other than the snake eyes, but those could easily just be novelty contact lenses.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 22 Aug 2019, 06:55
Interesting that May chooses to confide in the teen that she just broomed out of the store.

IS that a teen, though?

See.. my first thought was "Why would an AI dress like a goth right down to the cat's eye contacts... but then.. why not?"
Then I thought.. wait.. they've got pierced ears.. have I seen an AI with pierced anything?
THEN I thought, must be a person then...
THEN I thought... wait though... is that a neck seam???

So... Joe iz confuzzled!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Aug 2019, 06:59
That's not a neck seam, it's a collar bone. Look at Roko's last appearance for an example of a Synthetic with both to help you see the difference.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Aug 2019, 07:03
The teen is also possibly high.

When they're in the store early in the storyline, they have the same eye dots that the rest of the cast have. Its only in the latest strip that their eyes are weird.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 22 Aug 2019, 07:04
That's not a neck seam, it's a collar bone. Look at Roko's last appearance for an example of a Synthetic with both to help you see the difference.

You might well be right, hard to tell on the screen size I'm looking at.

That said... clavicles don't meet in the middle... his line seems to.
(Although... again could be the screen... it looks like it might be a shade of brown rather than the black of normal neck seams...)

Ho-hum...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 22 Aug 2019, 07:23
IS that a teen, though?

It seems to be the same person May was shoving with a broom in the previous strip; I assumed that it was one of those pesky teens, and I see nothing in the current strip to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 22 Aug 2019, 08:21
IS that a teen, though?

It seems to be the same person May was shoving with a broom in the previous strip; I assumed that it was one of those pesky teens, and I see nothing in the current strip to suggest otherwise.

See above.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JimC on 22 Aug 2019, 15:48
... an uphill battle against the Victorian myths that have very heavily influenced the popular image.
And of course we create new myths for our own prejudices. There's a spectacular amount of mythmaking about the Victorians for instance.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Aug 2019, 16:24
There's a couple of other incidents that happened in the 20th Century that changed the perception of pink from a masculine colour to a feminine one.
- Mamie Eisenhower wearing a pink dress at the inaugural ball in 1953.
- Italian fashion designer Elsa Schiaparelli was known for her association with surrealist artists of the era, and invented the shade "Shocking pink". She also created a perfume called "Shocking" and sold it in a bottle supposedly modelled after Mae West's torso. Many of her designs would use the vibrant pinks.
- During the Second World War, prisoners in Nazi concentration camps accused of homosexuality were forced to wear a pink triangle. Which evolved into the symbol of the modern gay rights movement.

A lot of it comes from how chemical dyes improved in the 20th century and basically more people had more choice.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Somebody on 22 Aug 2019, 18:50
New strip, in which Winslow can't see someone to talk to.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: shanejayell on 22 Aug 2019, 19:21
Awwww.

The 'flickering' effect didn't work great on my laptop.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Aug 2019, 19:22
Ah yes, that famous ratite attorney, E. Mu, Esquire. Attorney at Law.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 22 Aug 2019, 19:31
This gives me flashbacks to the great Emu Wars of '87. I still remember my drill sergeant shouting in my squad's faces that this is the only place on Earth where the geese chase you.

They're in the trees.

They're in the trees.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DSL on 22 Aug 2019, 20:09
Until the emu decloaked and all I could see was the attorney sign, I thought briefly this story was headed for a different turn. Going to guess this was some artful and deliberate misdirection on the part of our artist.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: OldGoat on 22 Aug 2019, 22:12
Roko's body dysphoria issues haven't been addressed for a while.  Would Winslow's attention tend to reinforce that or reassure her on this point?
That's one of the functions of this arc - she's got a mission and has forgotten all about it.  Teddy Roosevelt's self Rx for depression was, "Get action!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Aug 2019, 22:31
I'm wondering how long Winslow has sat there, talking to the emu about his problems? In any case, I'm sure the emu is wondering why the polite not-a-human is sitting there and making noises rather than giving her grain! That's what the other not-a-human at the laboratory does! Seriously, I really think that the reason that she isn't being aggressive is because Winslow and Chimevera look human but don't smell humuan, so she's allowing her better nature win out.

Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure that the current location is a Chekhov's Office. It may be a hint about the solution to Winslow's problems, to May's or to both.

Great GIF work today, Jeph! I hesitate to guess how long it took to create all the frames for the 'glitching cloak' effect!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: ZoeB on 23 Aug 2019, 03:04
Some of us are easily emused.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: oddtail on 23 Aug 2019, 03:05
I really think that the reason that she isn't being aggressive is because Winslow and Chimevera look human but don't smell humuan, so she's allowing her better nature win out.

I had the knee-jerk reaction of "birds have a rather poor sense of smell, so that's probably not a factor", but then I looked it up. Fun fact: emus are actually among the relatively rare bird species to have a keen sense of smell (at least based on my quick Google search).

This has nothing to do with anything, but I thought it was a neat thing to share.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: mahlernut on 23 Aug 2019, 06:09
This immediately reminded me of Roko's tripping episode when robo-drunk...was it the digi-booze-induced equilibrium problems that made her fall down, or did the stealth emu trip her???   :psyduck:

I mean, obviously the former.  But it'd be a funny retcon  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Theta9 on 23 Aug 2019, 06:50
This immediately reminded me of Roko's tripping episode when robo-drunk...
I was disappointed that we didn't get a "berf" this time.

Also I can't help but wonder how animated strips like this are printed in the eventual physical book.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Thrudd on 23 Aug 2019, 07:08
Also I can't help but wonder how animated strips like this are printed in the eventual physical book.

The cheap yet not as visually appealing solution is to either

The more expensive solution could be any of the following
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: mahlernut on 23 Aug 2019, 07:10
This immediately reminded me of Roko's tripping episode when robo-drunk...
I was disappointed that we didn't get a "berf" this time.

Also I can't help but wonder how animated strips like this are printed in the eventual physical book.

Ah yes..."berf" is definitely one of the best SFX that Jeph's introduced here. 

I was rereading the strip recently, and got to the one where Hannelore is demonstrating her one-foot kick drum technique, and that made me wonder about the same thing; just adding motion blur isn't quite the same.  Though, I've been wondering if/when we'll be getting volume 7 anyhow (much less getting this far in the strip).  With the format changes and the addition of animation, figuring out how to adapt the thing to print on a page must be a real challenge.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: mahlernut on 23 Aug 2019, 07:11
Also I can't help but wonder how animated strips like this are printed in the eventual physical book.

The cheap yet not as visually appealing solution is to either
  • ghost the image on the page
  • two pages that you can flip back and forth between

The more expensive solution could be any of the following
  • A clear foil page overlay the reader could flick back and forth over the page
  • embed one of those prism cards on the page that switches between the two images
  • a clear foil hologram for a similar effect
  • something I didn't think of as yet

Some sort of Augmented Reality trigger imbedded in the page to signal the interface device to display the animation in your field of vision!   :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 23 Aug 2019, 08:16

I was disappointed that we didn't get a "berf" this time.

Ah yes..."berf" is definitely one of the best SFX that Jeph's introduced here. 


Well, we didnt get a 'berf'... but we got a 'weeem' ! :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Roborat on 23 Aug 2019, 12:47
Until the emu decloaked and all I could see was the attorney sign, I thought briefly this story was headed for a different turn. Going to guess this was some artful and deliberate misdirection on the part of our artist.
You are not the only one.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Aug 2019, 19:36
This is not the first time Our Esteemed Leader has done a disappearing trick with a comic "character". There's 2162 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2162) and 2297. (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2297) (Though that last one wasn't much of a "disappearing" trick.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Rincewind on 23 Aug 2019, 22:45
The dreaded Intermittent Emu.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DSL on 24 Aug 2019, 08:12
(This Joke is compatible with U.S.-based Commercial Mass-Media Appreciation Systems ONLY)

... as long as the emu doesn't try to sell him insurance.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: Shremedy on 28 Aug 2019, 15:28
(This Joke is compatible with U.S.-based Commercial Mass-Media Appreciation Systems ONLY)

... as long as the emu doesn't try to sell him insurance.

THE UNDERCOVER ADVENTURES OF...  LEE-MUU EEEE-MUUUU!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4071-4075 (19th to 23rd August 2019)
Post by: DSL on 29 Aug 2019, 21:15
(This Joke is compatible with U.S.-based Commercial Mass-Media Appreciation Systems ONLY)

... as long as the emu doesn't try to sell him insurance.

THE UNDERCOVER ADVENTURES OF...  LEE-MUU EEEE-MUUUU!
... and Doug.