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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Gyrre on 18 Jan 2020, 19:48
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Hmmm..... I should probably fix dlnner ("""supper""").
I'd be hilarious if mister bureaucratic came into the convenience store for lunch after Roko left, and was completely oblivious as to whom he was interacting with. Especially if he either hit it off with May (platonically) or vented his work frustrations.
EDIT: damn, did that ever need rephrasing.
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Morse code or binary?
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/3e517e9aa81dba81f555f664d763af57/tumblr_q4cpzqgnJN1qkc6bso1_400.png)
EDIT: trimming the pick to only what's relevant. This was the poll very early on.
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Tacos with nixtamalized corn tortillas please.
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My favorite restaurant has the best wet burritos... and their table salsa is actually good, not spicy tomato sauce or hot marinara...
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If any of you all ever find yourselves in Emporia, KS, try El Marmol or El Lorito's.
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Strip's up. Huh...
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I simultaneously do and don't want to know what the right one is for.
There's some really out-there paraphilias (kinks), and a fair few I'd guess indicate that somebody just needs to take an extended break from the pr0n for a bit.
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So if Roko left her phone in her shirt pocket it would charge up.
She can breastfeed her phone.
I can’t decide if that’s brilliant or completely messed up.
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As someone with a history of dissociative episodes, I'm not entirely sure reading a user manual of my body would make things better. I have a feeling it would make me feel even more disconnected.
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The location of the wireless charger in relation to the shirt pocket is just really good thinking. Solid design, good planning. Mr. Jaques should patent this. Or something.
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While I agree, if I had such a feature I'd keep my phone at my hip as I do currently unless it was critically low on charge (so it doesn't act as an extra drain and because my last phone ended up with a swollen battery because it overheated while I left it on a WCP while sleeping), or integrate it with my body entirely (you can't steal my phone! I am my phone!
On that note, it was implied that Momo's old body had built in Wi-Fi, as she downloaded a patch wirelessly, so I'd bet that most non-military AI have a SIM card and an antenna built in, or tether to a box that's little more than a beefy power supply, a Mobile Data antenna, a Wi-Fi antenna, and a slot for a SIM card.
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While I agree, if I had such a feature I'd keep my phone at my hip as I do currently unless it was critically low on charge (so it doesn't act as an extra drain and because my last phone ended up with a swollen battery because it overheated while I left it on a WCP while sleeping), or integrate it with my body entirely (you can't steal my phone! I am my phone!
On that note, it was implied that Momo's old body had built in Wi-Fi, as she downloaded a patch wirelessly, so I'd bet that most non-military AI have a SIM card and an antenna built in, or tether to a box that's little more than a beefy power supply, a Mobile Data antenna, a Wi-Fi antenna, and a slot for a SIM card.
SIM card slot? I guess we know what's in the right nipple!
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My favorite restaurant has the best wet burritos... and their table salsa is actually good, not spicy tomato sauce or hot marinara...
I had no idea what a wet burrito is but did a Google search...now I want a meat, cheese, bean, and rice wet burrito.
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Jeph actually answers the question from last week's WCDT here. "Why does May need a body?" Because she cannot understand how Roko had a dissociative episode. To me, that means that she's basically content and at ease in a corporeal body; perhaps in a way that she never was as an disembodied AI. So, I think that the argument can be made that this is necessary for her mental health and that, for the sake of her rehabilitation, one that works properly to a reasonable degree is also a requirement.
I'm glad that Roko is taking her mental health seriously but I really think that she should be getting professional help. Muddling through by your own best judgement can sometimes not be as effective as you hoped.
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May, I also did not follow. Apparently, "at a remove" is a very archaic (https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/at-a-remove.1802169/) phrase (https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/48801-To-be-at-a-remove), rarely used in regular speech.
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Not so archaic, I think, at least in the UK. Mind you, I'd say "at one remove", which forms a contrast to the perhaps more common usage "at several removes" meaning connected, but only marginally.
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My favorite restaurant has the best wet burritos... and their table salsa is actually good, not spicy tomato sauce or hot marinara...
I had no idea what a wet burrito is but did a Google search...now I want a meat, cheese, bean, and rice wet burrito.
The one I like is beans and a very spicy chile colorado topped with cheese and a dollop of sour cream to cool it down a little
Of course May went straight to the breasts in the manual...
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Not so archaic, I think, at least in the UK. Mind you, I'd say "at one remove", which forms a contrast to the perhaps more common usage "at several removes" meaning connected, but only marginally.
I'd add that I didn't think twice about the phrase, until I saw andrybak's post. But then, I've been told before that I was am using terms out of common usage for the past two centuries.
So if Roko left her phone in her shirt pocket it would charge up.
She can breastfeed her phone.
I can’t decide if that’s brilliant or completely messed up.
Considering we've seen Winslow, in his iPad-sized chassis, it's not impossible that there are phone sized/shaped AI in universe. That might make it worse.
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So if Roko left her phone in her shirt pocket it would charge up.
But what would an AI need a phone for? I interpreted it as a point where the body could be recharged wirelessly rather than need a cable. But the breast feeding phone/anthropc concept is kinda cute!
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May, I also did not follow. Apparently, "at a remove" is a very archaic (https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/at-a-remove.1802169/) phrase (https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/48801-To-be-at-a-remove), rarely used in regular speech.
You also get stuff like "one dot two bar over" for "two hundred one years" from time to time.
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But what would an AI need a phone for?
Somehow Bubbles knew Roko was being installed in her new body. By the hand gesture, over the airwaves, of which there are several technologies is possible. But a number of AIs have cell phones, and use them, so maybe only newer model bodies have a SIM slot?
As far as breastfeeding a cellphone goes, I agree that a charging port there is good planning and engineering. Labeling the concept as "breast feeding", well, yes, that's messed up. :angel: :angel: :angel:
And finally for today's musing, if Clinton gets told by Faye to cover his hand to keep it from getting all cruddy internally, why doesn't she insist Mays' hands have a covering?
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But a number of AIs have cell phones, and use them,
I hadn't spotted that.
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Having a separate cell phone may be a performative thing like reading a physical book is.
It certainly helps eliminate the perception that an AI is talking to themselves, though you'd think an implanted cell phone could have a separate electronic input that responds to simulated sound waves instead of real sound waves. But maybe the apparatus still takes significant processing power that the AI involved would rather not be judged for the inward stare and tickets for distracted walking. You could imagine what might happen if Crushbot was walking about paying attention to an internal phone call...
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"Mexican food's pretty much all the same.
It just depends how you fold it."
Billy Connolly.
(N.B. - My own knowledge on 'mexican food' is limited to say the least!)
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Look on the menu for entrees that require tableware and the variety will bewilder and delight.
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The reasoning that some AI's with APC bodies have cell phones "built in" to those that not are about the same as some iPads that have SIMs to those that are strictly wifi compatible.
I suspect the option not to have "built in" cell is a more popular option, as cell technology can result in those with built in cell service suddenly in a lurch if their "standard" is no longer supported. Consider cell phones from 25 years ago vs. those today.
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Having a separate cell phone may be a performative thing like reading a physical book is.
I often show people things on my phone, even when out. So having a portable non-attached screen, at least, seems a practical thing, to show people (not necessarily other AIs) stuff on - and why not use it in the already established packaging?
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I always imagined an AI could attach a cable and send audio/stills/video to another AI or a display device like any other computer might. I mean, how *did* Jeremy and Seven burn out cables during robosex...
But yeah, good point, as well as the point on technology moving on after one's chassis has been committed to manufacturing.
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Additionally, just like AIs like to physically read rather than screen internally, they may prefer interacting externally when it comes to phone calls.
Also, considering that my employer requires me to use one of their phones for business which is entirely separate from the one I use personally... there is that.
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And finally for today's musing, if Clinton gets told by Faye to cover his hand to keep it from getting all cruddy internally, why doesn't she insist Mays' hands have a covering?
For a completely-out-of-the-air guess: May is an AI, and AIs in Faye's experience already know that they should be careful not to get their joints all cruddy. It doesn't matter that May has only had a body for a relatively-short time, it's just not something that Faye thinks is necessary. Clinton's hand is not a normal human hand, so she assumes she has to warn him, even though he's had the hand ever since it withered into a claw a firework went off while he was holding it, much longer than May has had a body.
For what I think is more likely: eh, Jeph's not infallible. He probably just forgot.
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Or her hands, in keeping with the apparent state of the chassis, are a less refined technology than his prosthesis is. Or just different.
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"Mexican food's pretty much all the same.
It just depends how you fold it."
Billy Connolly.
(N.B. - My own knowledge on 'mexican food' is limited to say the least!)
As evident by the quote.
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Comic’s up. I think she looks better purple.
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One would wonder if color changing would freak her out too. Still, interesting.
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It ain’t easy being green.
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It's not that easy, bein' green
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves
And Melon tends to hit the ceiling
Cause she's freaking out
Like an organic taking acid
It's not that easy, bein' green
You blend in with so many ordinary things
And people tend to pass you over
'Cause you're not a cop now
Or a networked AI from the sky
But green is the color of spring
And green can be cool and friendly like
And green can be big, like Bubbles
Or important, like the Station
Or tall like a Crushbot
If green is all there is to be
It may make you stop and wonder why
But why wonder
Why wonder why?
Green is nice. It's beautiful.
And I think it's what I want to be.
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I wonder if that's the Negaverse Queen Beryl came from.
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This is an interesting development. I wonder if Roko will feel more connected to her new chassis after customisation.
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This is an interesting development. I wonder if Roko will feel more connected to her new chassis after customisation.
I had the same thought.
I wonder if that's the Negaverse Queen Beryl came from.
I was watching a vid the other day, and apparently the American adaptation took A LOT of liberties with the localization.
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Neat trick. I can see Roko isn’t baseline.
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I find myself wondering what other user-defined customisation options that the Philomena-G chassis has? Depending on how mischievous Roko is, she could have endless fun being someone else!
One would wonder if color changing would freak her out too. Still, interesting.
This is an interesting development. I wonder if Roko will feel more connected to her new chassis after customisation.
That's something that I was thinking about too. It could be positive, the control that she has proving that this is her. Alternatively, it could make the sense of disconnection worse by making her feel physically mutable!
Also: "Again"? Just what is the everyday life of Melon? Is she just one of those imaginative people who can effortlessly go on fantastic voyages in the privacy of her head or is the QC universe weirder than any of us imagined before? Certainly, this raises the possibility that the scorpion pit where we saw her working is only how she likes to perceive her place of work rather than its objective reality. Much like all of us, I think! :-P
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"Mexican food's pretty much all the same.
It just depends how you fold it."
Billy Connolly.
(N.B. - My own knowledge on 'mexican food' is limited to say the least!)
As evident by the quote.
Which, to be fair to me, is why I added the addendum! :)
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Don't feel bad, Joe. My experience with Scottish food is limited, to say the least.
And I avoid it for the same reason I do most Mexican food as well... :angel:
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I wonder if Roko could colour cycle like a cuttlefish and hypnotise unwitting prey to have them give May a new body!! :)
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I wonder if Roko could colour cycle like a cuttlefish and hypnotise unwitting prey to have them give May a new body!! :)
Why hypnotize when she could intimidate (more Roko's style anyway)? She could start out as flesh colored (pick a lighter one), then turn red/der as her anger with the stooge on the other side of the table grows, then fade into matte black as her rage peaks.
Damn. Now I want to transfer my consciousness to her same model chassis. I wonder what else it does...
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I wonder if Roko could colour cycle like a cuttlefish and hypnotise unwitting prey to have them give May a new body!! :)
I was thinking more of her blending into the background like a chameleon and getting dirt on the decision-makers that way!
You know, a while back, I speculated that Yay may have decided that Roko 'needed' some optional extras in her new body. I wonder if this is part of it and what else she may have that isn't in an off-the-shelf Philomena-G?
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You know, a while back, I speculated that Yay may have decided that Roko 'needed' some optional extras in her new body. I wonder if this is part of it and what else she may have that isn't in an off-the-shelf Philomena-G?
Possibly, but then the manual would have to be rewritten too, Roko's future request for download of the manual trapped out from everyone else's, and the rewritten manual substituted just for Roko. I'm not saying Yay can't do all that, but it doesn't seem to be Yay's impulsive and urgently-done style.
Anyone got inversion software (mine has gone awol) and verified the hair colors on Melon and Roko are inversions of each other?
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One would wonder if color changing would freak her out too. Still, interesting.
I would imagine it would have the opposite effect. Understanding what her body can do will no doubt let Roko feel more comfortable in her body.
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... cell technology can result in those with built in cell service suddenly in a lurch if their "standard" is no longer supported.
But surely that sort of thing would be modular anyway. A standard bus and a plug in interface.
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One would wonder if color changing would freak her out too. Still, interesting.
I would imagine it would have the opposite effect. Understanding what her body can do will no doubt let Roko feel more comfortable in her body.
Certainly fewer unwelcome (and/or triggering) surprises.
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Negaverse? You mean where Trump is president instead of Hillary?
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Geeqie says:
Melon's hair: 28,167,74
Roko's usual hair: 149,24,81
R's Negaverse hair: 24, 149, 53
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Roko should have read her old manual as a job responsibility. Her chassis while she was on the force was her most basic piece of job equipment and she should have known it as well as she knew her sidearm.
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And finally for today's musing, if Clinton gets told by Faye to cover his hand to keep it from getting all cruddy internally, why doesn't she insist Mays' hands have a covering?
Because biologicals like Clinton (and all of us, I am assuming) are messy and constantly shedding - body oils, sweat, dead skin cells, food particulates, fecal matter, saliva, makeup particulates if we use makeup, shed hair, ear wax... I would suspect AI corporeal units would lack much of this incidental debris.
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Roko should have read her old manual as a job responsibility. Her chassis while she was on the force was her most basic piece of job equipment and she should have known it as well as she knew her sidearm.
That's all well and good, but the fact is that Roko's current chassis is the exact same as her old model. Its not. It just looks like it.
Roko's chassis when she was with the police wouldn't have been a deluxe chassis. It would have been a workhorse model, something that would do the job and do it well. Being able to change the colour of her skin and hair seems frivolous and unnecessary.
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And finally for today's musing, if Clinton gets told by Faye to cover his hand to keep it from getting all cruddy internally, why doesn't she insist Mays' hands have a covering?
Because biologicals like Clinton (and all of us, I am assuming) are messy and constantly shedding - body oils, sweat, dead skin cells, food particulates, fecal matter, saliva, makeup particulates if we use makeup, shed hair, ear wax... I would suspect AI corporeal units would lack much of this incidental debris.
The problem is that she works in human spaces, and when we shed all that stuff, it all ends up on surfaces and in the air, so she still encounters it.
My two theories are:
1. Her chassis was designed without a covering. During Clinton's hand repair arc, it's implied that he's supposed to wear a cover normally, but chooses not to because the inner workings of his prosthetic hand are so cooooooool! This is less like using a phone without a case and more like using your phone without a backplate.
2. The wear and tear Faye pointed out was not actually part of the original reason for repair, but something she brought up while she was already working on his hand. He's never complained of performance issues (like Roko did with the hitch in her ankle), but did mention it felt smoother once it had been cleaned out. This would indicate that the damage from not using a covering is only minor, and given May's position I doubt she'd even notice the difference with all her other maintenance woes.
So either the grit problem is one that can be designed around (and Clinton was just being irresponsible) or it's not a major issue, so Faye isn't about to shame May over it while her leg and arm keep falling off.
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Anyone got inversion software (mine has gone awol) and verified the hair colors on Melon and Roko are inversions of each other?
(http://www.devboats.co.uk/img/qc-1.jpg)
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Looks like the hair isn't but Melons hair and outfit seem to be ... well on this monitor anyways.
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Anyone got inversion software (mine has gone awol) and verified the hair colors on Melon and Roko are inversions of each other?
(http://www.devboats.co.uk/img/qc-1.jpg)
That's straight inversion, which also flips the value AKA darkness/Lightness. A more accurate change would be color 'rotation', which changes the Hue without affecting saturation or value as seen here-> (https://i.imgur.com/eqzsrvn.png)
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Don't feel bad, Joe. My experience with Scottish food is limited, to say the least.
And I avoid it for the same reason I do most Mexican food as well... :angel:
Scottish food is excellent! Even when not going for a simple fish and chips, many of the curries are quite nice, and if one is less than sober, even the kebabs are quite palatable.
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Roko should have read the manual on her old body to know how to take care of it so she could perform her job duties.
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For comic #4282... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4182)
Coming later this year 2020...
The Questionable Crisis of Infinite Contents
QC-4166 ~ the NegaVerse... Beware your Durrpelganger (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4166).
QC-3760 ~ the MelonVerse... Where Melon is a melon (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3760).
What other 'Verses are out there...?
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Inspired by Tyr's post, I like the idea that Negaverse Melon (Nelom?) is just as ditsy as QC Prime Melon, and occasionally gets sucked into what she thinks is the Negaverse too.
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Inspired by Tyr's post, I like the idea that Negaverse Melon (Nelom?) is just as ditsy as QC Prime Melon, and occasionally gets sucked into what she thinks is the Negaverse too.
Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
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What other 'Verses are out there...?
There is, of course, the Bakeryverse (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845). But it’s supposed to be a secret.
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Also: "Again"? Just what is the everyday life of Melon? Is she just one of those imaginative people who can effortlessly go on fantastic voyages in the privacy of her head or is the QC universe weirder than any of us imagined before? Certainly, this raises the possibility that the scorpion pit where we saw her working is only how she likes to perceive her place of work rather than its objective reality. Much like all of us, I think! :-P
Melon follows an arrow labeled 'work' to reach her workplace. Which i now believe is just another room in their apartment. Once there, she pulls a string which releases a cascade of paper slips labeled 'scorpion', 'centipede' and so on. Which are transformed by melon-vision into the semblance of live vermin. When 'work' is over, she follows the arrow labeled 'home'. My head-canon, anyway.
Yes, Melon's grasp of reality is ... flexible.
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NO, it turns out Roko never read her manual. *lol*
Yay New Friend/Spooky, that's kinda stalkerish. Just saying.
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Inspired by Tyr's post, I like the idea that Negaverse Melon (Nelom?) is just as ditsy as QC Prime Melon, and occasionally gets sucked into what she thinks is the Negaverse too.
Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
Trouble grasping reality is schizophrenia.
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The unspoken part of Yay's reveal about that nodes new residence is: "Congratulations, Roko! Now you are never more than a few minutes away from the joy of association with us!" I'm sure that Roko will be able to control her paroxysms of glee at this news, although I don't know how! :lol:
Yeah, somehow Roko strikes me as the sort of person who wouldn't be interested in something's functionality beyond: "Does it do what I want it for?" Lots of people are like that. You'd be surprised the number of pre-loaded apps I have on my tablet that I have never used or pre-loaded URLs I got with my ISP account that I've never followed! I still wonder just what hidden weirdness may be in that body though! Something tells me that Roko will be better off finding out now in the comfort of her home before another safety feature or worse trips her up on the street again!
Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
Trouble grasping reality is schizophrenia.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that a symptom of schizophrenia is getting easily distressed by faces being presented in a non-standard way. That matches her near panic attack at green!Roko but it might just be a coincidence.
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Don't feel bad, Joe. My experience with Scottish food is limited, to say the least.
And I avoid it for the same reason I do most Mexican food as well... :angel:
Scottish food is excellent! Even when not going for a simple fish and chips, many of the curries are quite nice, and if one is less than sober, even the kebabs are quite palatable.
Whereas I'm sure the above was written in the spirit of jest ( :wink: ) ... apparently Chicken Tikka Masala was invented in Glasgow!
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Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
Trouble grasping reality is schizophrenia.
No reason it can't be both. I'm considering her inability to remember and model appropriate social customs and her ability to be highly focused on what most of us would consider minutia.
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The 4183 panel 3 poses of remind me strongly of Marigold and Dale's early interactions.
And Roko's look away in Panel 4 reminds me of Vicky Lawrence and Tim Conway (Roko and Yay, respectively) in the Elephant sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY) I can just hear Roko saying "Of course you did." in an exact imitation of Vicki's tone/voice at 4:15...
And I just realized just how under-endowed Yay is. I suppose that's an advantage for one that may want to present as male on occasion.
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I'm pretty sure that the Spookybot chassis are genuinely and fully androgynous. However, I have got the impression that the various nodes have their own 'flavour' of presentation. This particular one, which is the one that uses the 'Yay' name, is somewhat more feminine whilst others are more masculine in presentation and behaviour (the suited one who helped Bubbles and later 'persuaded' Corpse Witch to surrender comes to mind).
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I think Yay is non-binary
I can't imagine the chaos that would ensue if Melon, Emily, Raven, and Pintsize collaborated on something... let us not forget that Melon launched her ass into low-earth orbit and that Emily Raven not only makes clothing capable of adjusting to any size abut also a made Faye's Expressosaur travel through time.
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The time-traveling Espressosaur was Raven's fault, not Emily's (Emily was hired after Faye was fired).
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Oh no. Ellicot-Chathams’s Angels: a show about a cloud cuckoolander, a genius ditz, and a topological savant recruited by a reclusive eccentric to save the world (from boring days), coming soon to Amazon Prime….
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Whereas I'm sure the above was written in the spirit of jest ( :wink: ) ... apparently Chicken Tikka Masala was invented in Glasgow!
I was quite well aware of that, which inspired my post to some degree.
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Oh no. Ellicot-Chathams’s Angels: a show about a cloud cuckoolander, a genius ditz, and a topological savant recruited by a reclusive eccentric to save the world (from boring days), coming soon to Amazon Prime….
I was gonna volunteer to write an episode, and then realized this had already been done on one of the latter McGyver (sp?) incarnations.
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The time-traveling Espressosaur was Raven's fault, not Emily's (Emily was hired after Faye was fired).
Yeah, I always imagined Jeph wanted to retain the ditzy genius aspect of Raven while not wanting to retain her other established personality traits, hence introducing Emily and writing out Raven (well technically not written out, but not seen since forever).
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RTFM! The second thing I do after opening the box. First is spread out the pieces to see if they match the inventory listed in the manual.
Though now days the "manual" packaged in the box can be darn slim, if it exists at all :{
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I'm usually good about RTFM before I violate the warranty... not to say I don't violate it-- I'm a modder, but at least I know beforehand how the thing is technically supposed to act prior to me breaking it.
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Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
Trouble grasping reality is schizophrenia.
No reason it can't be both. I'm considering her inability to remember and model appropriate social customs and her ability to be highly focused on what most of us would consider minutia.
To me, Melon kinda feels like she doesn't want to understand. Might be resignation, might be ignorance, might be incapability of whatever kind.
I'm usually good about RTFM before I violate the warranty... not to say I don't violate it-- I'm a modder, but at least I know beforehand how the thing is technically supposed to act prior to me breaking it.
Technology has advanced too far to not RTFM.
And finally for today's musing, if Clinton gets told by Faye to cover his hand to keep it from getting all cruddy internally, why doesn't she insist Mays' hands have a covering?
Because biologicals like Clinton (and all of us, I am assuming) are messy and constantly shedding - body oils, sweat, dead skin cells, food particulates, fecal matter, saliva, makeup particulates if we use makeup, shed hair, ear wax... I would suspect AI corporeal units would lack much of this incidental debris.
The protection against "short distance organic matter" is one thing, but since it was meant to replace a human hand, it's meant to look like a human hand. May is meant to look like a robot/android anyway, so her body/model has a more mechanical look (as opposed to Roko and Momo).
Also, it might a price thing - to keep cost down, the mechanical parts are not meant to take all the wear, and superficial damage should be replaceable easily and cheaply. And the money goes more into the man/machine interface (which is probably harder and messier to do than just building a robot) - unless that's done in the stump, and the hand is "pure robot tech".
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Technology has advanced too far to not RTFM.
I dunno. Last time I read a manual was the motherboard manual the first time I built a PC. My general mode of operation is to poke around until I can do whatever it is I want to do, in which case I learn very little, or until I break something at which point I start to actually learn how it works. Then again, I don't *yet* have a kickass cyborg body with eyes that shoot lasers.
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I would contend that there is a difference between Clinton's hand and Roko's Philomena body: one does not have an AI operating it, but a human being.
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Meddling would be easy to do without Roko knowing.
Imagine that a popup appears on every Congressman's screen saying they can either vote for the AI First Step Act or have their Ashley Madison account published. That's the sort of thing Eminence Grise could do with the least amount of their power.
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There needs to be a band named "Unspeakable Urges."
:laugh:
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I shutter imagining how many paper clips Pintsize would need.
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I love Yay's expression in the last panel.
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I shutter imagining how many paper clips Pintsize would need.
You mean how many he’d need if he actually wanted to distract himself from unspeakable urges?
I think he’d need something more distracting than paper clips.
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Anybody else read Melon's line in Andrea Libman's voice?
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Melon has a precarious grip on QC Universe reality. I wonder if she'd be autistic if she were a human and not an AI.
Trouble grasping reality is schizophrenia.
No reason it can't be both. I'm considering her inability to remember and model appropriate social customs and her ability to be highly focused on what most of us would consider minutia.
I'll assume you mean 'a diagnoses of having both' as hallucinations aren't a hallmark of ASD.
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Roko seems to be doomed to be unusual AIs' keeper. She's done a fairly good job of stopping Melon from demolishing the building (because she didn't understand why she wasn't supposed to) and now she's in the position where she's stopping Yay from doing weird thing to the economic and political nature of the planet to impress her with their benevolence! Even if that means having to pretend to be fooled when they are trolling for praise!
Meanwhile, it's beginning to seem more and more like Jeph has decided that Melon has the AI equivalent of schizophrenia. She has a system for controlling intrusive thoughts and sudden antisocial impulses too!
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Scottish food is excellent! Even when not going for a simple fish and chips, many of the curries are quite nice, and if one is less than sober, even the kebabs are quite palatable.
Cullen Skink is delicious... Its a fish and potato soup, it only sounds like something made from lizards...
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Roko seems to be doomed to be unusual AIs' keeper. She's done a fairly good job of stopping Melon from demolishing the building (because she didn't understand why she wasn't supposed to) and now she's in the position where she's stopping Yay from doing weird thing to the economic and political nature of the planet to impress her with their benevolence! Even if that means having to pretend to be fooled when they are trolling for praise!
Usually, everyone has that one friend. For Roko, that one friend is a normal one.
Meanwhile, it's beginning to seem more and more like Jeph has decided that Melon has the AI equivalent of schizophrenia. She has a system for controlling intrusive thoughts and sudden antisocial impulses too!
For what seems to be was meant as a one shot comic relief, Melon sure managed to stay.
Also, I wonder what real world diagnoses (or whatever the plural of that word is) could be applied to Melon.
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Cullen Skink is delicious... Its a fish and potato soup, it only sounds like something made from lizards...
I make it regularly.
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You mean how many he’d need if he actually wanted to distract himself from unspeakable urges?
I think he’d need something more distracting than paper clips.
You're assuming he finds any of his urges 'unspeakable'. He speaks about many of his more outré urges quite openly, after all.
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You're assuming he finds any of his urges 'unspeakable'.
I'm pretty sure he'd speak out about anything if he thought it would rattle his listener somehow, even if it wasn't really one of his own urges.
I'm still waiting for May to realize Pintsize was serious when he asked her to marry him during the fart-app incident.
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I shutter imagining how many paper clips Pintsize would need.
You mean how many he’d need if he actually wanted to distract himself from unspeakable urges?
I suspect that the only urge Pintsize has is to troll people into thinking that he has unspeakable urges.
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Considering Melons ordinary urges result in property damage and injury to herself I think she might want to keep that paperclip
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Considering Melons ordinary urges result in property damage and injury to herself I think she might want to keep that paperclip
And maybe get a bigger one.
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Considering Melons ordinary urges result in property damage and injury to herself I think she might want to keep that paperclip
She has at least a whole drawer full in her kitchen.
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Comic’s up. And the breastfeeding metaphor is now canon.
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Considering Melons ordinary urges result in property damage and injury to herself I think she might want to keep that paperclip
She has at least a whole drawer full in her kitchen.
Suddenly, I understand the paperclip maximizer! It's just terrified of what Melon might do if she gets out of control!
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That was fun.
I like how 'Yay new friend' /Spooky likes to monitor ALL the dogs.
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Did anyone notice what Yay did with the paper-clip? They used their electromagnetic field induction powers to turn it back into its paper-clip shape. I might be over-interpreting this but, to me, that the action of someone whose mind is naturally aligned to order and organisation. They may be chaotic in their actions but, ultimately, they want and they enjoy a world that is more orderly in nature!
Oh, and the inducers were pumping out so much power that the paper-clip was incandescing. I hesitate to think how much energy that is and what it would do if they were to use it offensively.
So: Dog-sensing abilities. Is Yay actually serious with this or are they trolling Roko for asking a personal question?
Finally: Roko, please stop being so beautiful! It makes it a lot harder to concentrate on what is actually happening in the comic. No, I'm kidding, I really prefer you the way that you are! :wink:
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Oh, and the inducers were pumping out so much power that the paper-clip was incandescing. I hesitate to think how much energy that is
I thought it was just red hot: incandescent would lead to excessive oxidation, and red hot would be what was needed for reforming it. So probably not much energy really.
I want a dog sensing capability to tell me when the puppy is chewing the chair to bits. Again.
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I must admit, I thought the 'red paper clip' was just coloured that way so it would be "noticed"...
But then, I also read the tag line below the comic! ;)
And I don't think there's anything behind the giving it back in it's original shape other than;
a) it was a polite thing to do :)
b) Yay knew it would give Melon a buzz.. which it did!
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So: Dog-sensing abilities. Is Yay actually serious with this or are they trolling Roko for asking a personal question?
I would assume she's serious, but since Yay can probably tap into any electronic device and use it's sensors, all she needs to do is notice the sounds the Siri/Alexa/etc. are recording and determine what they are. No real dog-sensing hardware need apply. Plus, if what Yay described is really going on, a dog-sensing suite is nothing more than a finely tunable pair of ears in that chassis - something desirable in a body that needs stealth anyway. Chasing a dog with a plate full of food is gonna cause a loud ruckus with shouts of the dogs name, and that's easy to hear... So calling that a dog-sensing system is trolling Roko on the name, not the action at the moment.
Finally: Roko, please stop being so beautiful! It makes it a lot harder to concentrate on what is actually happening in the comic. No, I'm kidding, I really prefer you the way that you are! :wink:
I just realized I don't ever remember seeing Roko in a skirt/dress. Not that that particular view has ever been necessary; she's hot anyway...
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We did see her in what appeared to be a dress on her date with Pintsize (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3690), but only from the waist up.
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Unless they are new pet owners, that's all on you- NEVER LEAVE MEAT UNATTENDED!
We learned that the hard way with my cats...you'd think after the third time my sister wouldn't leave meat out in the open on a table, but nope! At least our current cat doesn't go for meats with bones...she prefers boneless :-D
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That was fun.
I like how 'Yay new friend' /Spooky likes to monitor ALL the dogs.
I wonder if it has to do with their abilities...like the dogs can tell the difference between AIs so need monitoring to not "out" an AI or something?
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We did see her in what appeared to be a dress on her date with Pintsize (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3690), but only from the waist up.
I interpret that as a long shirt/skirt combo but she's probably wearing leggings under it...closest we'll get it seems, but it's in the dress family(married cousin, but still part of it)
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....When did Yay's speech boxes change to rectangles? I always appreciated the differentiation with AI's speaking in a hard rectangle to indicate that their voice probably sounds a little less than natural, and that Yay got round speech bubbles to indicate that they were advanced enough to accurately sound like a human. So it feels like all of a sudden they've somehow lost the ability to speak in perfect imitation of a human voice.
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I've actually never eaten a burrito or chimichanga that wasn't microwaved. And never ate any of the others.
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....When did Yay's speech boxes change to rectangles? I always appreciated the differentiation with AI's speaking in a hard rectangle to indicate that their voice probably sounds a little less than natural, and that Yay got round speech bubbles to indicate that they were advanced enough to accurately sound like a human. So it feels like all of a sudden they've somehow lost the ability to speak in perfect imitation of a human voice.
Good catch. My personal guess? Jeph forgot.
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I've actually never eaten a burrito or chimichanga that wasn't microwaved. And never ate any of the others.
You can always cook the pre-made ones in the oven on aluminum foil or a cookie sheet. They get a nice crispness to the shell and taste a little different.
If you want to make your own:
- 16oz ground beef or chicken (can also use shredded)
- 1 or 2 bell peppers (any color) alternatively, half a bag of frozen bell pepper and onion blend can be used
- 1 jalapeño (add more for preferred spiciness)
- ½ a smallish yellow or white onion (may substitute with onion powder)
- 2 cloves of garlic (may substitute with garlic powder)
- ground cummin
- cheese of your choice
- tortilla shells
- olive oil
- chili powder
Start by coring your your peppers. Cut around the stem at the top, then pull out the center part with the seeds. If you've never handled spicy food before, you'll want latex or nitrile gloves to avoid getting the jalapeño juice on your skin. If you opt not to wear gloves, be sure to wash your hands very well before using the restroom or touching your eyes/sensitive skin areas. Next, dice the peppers and onions. Set these off to the side.
Then, start browning your meat in at least a 10 inch skillet (frying pan, sauce pan, whatever) on medium-high. If you're using a gas stove, you'll just need medium. Add two shakes of chili powder, two or three shakes of ground cummin, and press your garlic cloves into the meat. You'll want these in the meat pretty much from the get-go. Stir occasionally for 10 minutes, then lower the heat to medium.
Once to meat is mostly done, start adding your peppers and onions. Stir occasionally. Add olive oil as needed to prevent burning. Cook until the vegetables and meat are fully cooked. When it's done, turn the heat down to low. Get out your tortilla shells and sprinkle your choice of shredded/sliced cheese onto the middle of the open shell, then scoop some of the meat and vegetable mix on top of the cheese. Shell size will determine how much you add of each.
Beans are optionally added to this mix, as are tomatoes. Refried or pinto beans are traditional and would be added when the meat is turned down to medium. Diced or sliced tomatoes would be added in with the peppers and onions. Personally, I prefer using black beans. Yes, canned beans are perfectly fine to use.
EDIT: If you dislike spicy food, feel free to not add the jalapeño. If you want to replace it with something else, 3 banana peppers or ½ a poblano will do nicely. This recipe is highly modular.
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Good catch. My personal guess? Jeph forgot.
I'm not sure its always been 100% consistent in the past either. and you know what? Doesn't matter.
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....When did Yay's speech boxes change to rectangles? I always appreciated the differentiation with AI's speaking in a hard rectangle to indicate that their voice probably sounds a little less than natural, and that Yay got round speech bubbles to indicate that they were advanced enough to accurately sound like a human. So it feels like all of a sudden they've somehow lost the ability to speak in perfect imitation of a human voice.
Good catch. My personal guess? Jeph forgot.
Or yay sounds more roboty for Roko
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I looked through some of the comics with Yay (http://cesiumcomics.com/qctags/?tag=spookybot) and it seems to go back and forth, even with Roko. In the early ones their speech bubbles are always round, and even up to 3838, but then at 3920 their bubbles are rectangular all through the conversation with Roko. In 3969 it's round among themselves, and ditto for the conversations with Roko starting at 4035 & 4108, but now at 4183 we're back to rectangular. So either it's random or maybe one of their bodies has a voice more like a typical AI than the other bodies.
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I looked through some of the comics with Yay (http://cesiumcomics.com/qctags/?tag=spookybot) and it seems to go back and forth, even with Roko. In the early ones their speech bubbles are always round, and even up to 3838, but then at 3920 their bubbles are rectangular all through the conversation with Roko. In 3969 it's round among themselves, and ditto for the conversations with Roko starting at 4035 & 4108, but now at 4183 we're back to rectangular. So either it's random or maybe one of their bodies has a voice more like a typical AI than the other bodies.
There's an interesting idea. What if Yay modulates their voice in accordance with whether they're speaking to an AI or a human? It could also be determined by which type of voice Yay thinks who they're speaking to be more comfortable with.
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I looked through some of the comics with Yay (http://cesiumcomics.com/qctags/?tag=spookybot) and it seems to go back and forth, even with Roko. In the early ones their speech bubbles are always round, and even up to 3838, but then at 3920 their bubbles are rectangular all through the conversation with Roko. In 3969 it's round among themselves, and ditto for the conversations with Roko starting at 4035 & 4108, but now at 4183 we're back to rectangular. So either it's random or maybe one of their bodies has a voice more like a typical AI than the other bodies.
There's an interesting idea. What if Yay modulates their voice in accordance with whether they're speaking to an AI or a human? It could also be determined by which type of voice Yay thinks who they're speaking to be more comfortable with.
Seems likely. As impressive as Spookybot’s abilities are I think they are getting a little reckless spending so much time in the open.
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I wonder, are Spookybot several individual AIs merged together, or one powerful AI "multithreading" body wise? How much of a difference in personality is there between the single nodes/instances/bodies?
What's your opinion?
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Someone here, I wish I could remember who so as to give credit, noticed that there were differences in how various nodes interacted with others, correlated with how each node dressed. Athleisure Spookybot is a different personality from Suit Spookybot.
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That would be me. I have speculated that we have actually met three nodes:
- Athleisure Spookybot is aka 'Yay' and, IMO, presents subtly more femininely than the others
- Rumpled Shirt Spoolybot is the most concerned about ethics and their boundaries
- Suit Spookybot is the most aggressive and amoral of the nodes but demonstrated considerable empathy to Bubbles.
It's worth noting that whilst I think one of the nodes is the one we see being referred to as Yay, there is a considerable amount of sharing and synchronising of memories between the nodes so any one of them would use the name, describe it as 'our name' and identify themselves as Roko and Melon's friend without hesitation.
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I wonder, are Spookybot several individual AIs merged together, or one powerful AI "multithreading" body wise? How much of a difference in personality is there between the single nodes/instances/bodies?
What's your opinion?
I think they share a sense of identity, but they are not monolithic.
...then again, even human brains aren't monolithic entities and we think of ourselves as consistent people because that's a convenient paradigm. So Spookybot would not be that different, just on a much larger scale (hence more visible differences) and with multiple bodies.
In other words, I'd say Spookybot identifies as one person (or one collective person-amalgamate-entity of some kind), but probably has significant differences between nodes.
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I wonder, are Spookybot several individual AIs merged together, or one powerful AI "multithreading" body wise? How much of a difference in personality is there between the single nodes/instances/bodies?
What's your opinion?
I'd like to believe that their consciousness and identity work so differently from ours that the real answer is something we could not understand.
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That would be me. I have speculated that we have actually met three nodes:
- Athleisure Spookybot is aka 'Yay' and, IMO, presents subtly more femininely than the others
- Rumpled Shirt Spoolybot is the most concerned about ethics and their boundaries
- Suit Spookybot is the most aggressive and amoral of the nodes but demonstrated considerable empathy to Bubbles.
It's worth noting that whilst I think one of the nodes is the one we see being referred to as Yay, there is a considerable amount of sharing and synchronising of memories between the nodes so any one of them would use the name, describe it as 'our name' and identify themselves as Roko and Melon's friend without hesitation.
There's at least seven "bodies" that they have (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3418), all of them seemingly unique in their own quirky personalities so it's possible that each has their own way of doing things slightly different than the others but have a central mindset overall...
I'm wondering if perhaps Spooky might be the "mother" of all AIs in some form, like the original AI but who hides the connection to all others for their own personal reasons
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It's possible that Yay's different chassis have different capabilities based on their specific purposes. But the fact that they all look the same (as far as we know. There's no way to know for sure what other chassis they have) makes me think that they aren't each purpose built. I think the different text bubbles are much more likely to be code switching.
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Another possible in-universe explanation for the changing speech bubbles is psychological. Yay makes themselves sound more human when it is to their advantage to do so. Similarly, they are deliberately choosing to pitch their voice in a 'synthetic' way around Roko and Melon hoping that it will make them more at ease.
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Similarly, they are deliberately choosing to pitch their voice in a 'synthetic' way around Roko and Melon hoping that it will make them more at ease.
Or, since Yay knows there's no humans around, doesn't make the effort (invest the processor cycles) to sound more human for an essentially all-robot audience. Since they can imitate most any sound (morse, modem), they could even be speaking in some non-human language the other AIs understand that a human wouldn't.
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Spookybots = AI 'Q'.
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Spookybots = AI 'Q'.
I like that one. Chaotic Neutral.
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RTFM! The second thing I do after opening the box. First is spread out the pieces to see if they match the inventory listed in the manual.
Though now days the "manual" packaged in the box can be darn slim, if it exists at all :{
I have a mini poster on my wall of sticky at work with RTFM in huge bold letter and in micro-type the rest of each of the words that look almost like punctuation marks.
As mentioned in my byline there are - spare parts - these were planned
- extra parts - not planned per se like in LEGO sets but a consequence of the packaging process - yay bonus = happy customers
- leftover parts - this is where someone did not read the instructions or missed a step - ye screwed up mate
Scottish food is excellent! Even when not going for a simple fish and chips, many of the curries are quite nice, and if one is less than sober, even the kebabs are quite palatable.
Cullen Skink is delicious... Its a fish and potato soup, it only sounds like something made from lizards...
Sort of like Welsh rabbit
Not really Welsh and definitely not rabbit.
The name was changed to rarebit and was probably an attempt to make the name more fitting to the dish and to drop "some patronizing overtones", according to the Oxford Dictionary.
Translation - the Welsh had enough of British racism and by that point had the power to call them on it.
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Well, I wasn't expecting burritos to beat out quesadillas in the poll, but they did.
As for the burrito recipe I posted, you can just add picante salsa once the meat is half done if you want to skip adding peppers and onions.