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Title: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Mar 2020, 11:16
So, I struggled for a while but then I had this flash of inspiration. We're all outsiders looking in but what if that changed. Imagine you were in the QC world and moving to Northampton. We know that the property prices in that down are something insane so you'd probably have to apartment-share. With which of  the existing known residential groups would you like share space?

I honestly had to think about this and, as boring as it sounds, I'm voting for Steve and Cosette. I choose them because it would be boring. No crazy hijinks, no AnthroPCs with odd senses of humour and, as far as we know, no neighbours who 'drop in' to share around some chaos! Oh, there's the occasional Tortura visit but, so long as you stay out of her way and remember that she's now probably a married author of spy fantasies for ages 6-10 years, you should be okay.

What do you all think?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Mar 2020, 11:53
Cosette is accident prone, but other than that, ja they're a pretty safe choice.
Brun and Renee would be fairly safe as well.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 01 Mar 2020, 13:59
I think I'd go with Elliot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 01 Mar 2020, 15:28
Most of the groups listed have at least one entity that makes me go "no way".

The exceptions are Steve/Cosette and Roko.  To be fair, if Steve and Cosette lived in an apartment instead of a house, they'd be a "no way" as well.

There are two others under my consideration.

Those others are Sven (and Princess - remember Princess?) and Mrs. A (and Cosmo).  My figuring is that either way, I would learn something in an area I know little about.  :evil:

Honestly, though, I'm not that much of an animal person, so...

My final decision is to go with Roko, if only to give her cooking utensils a reason to exist.  I can handle the visitors in small doses.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 01 Mar 2020, 16:57
Voted Roko, rho Mrs A and Cosmo would be nice too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Mar 2020, 16:57
Most of the groups listed have at least one entity that makes me go "no way".

The exceptions are Steve/Cosette and Roko.  To be fair, if Steve and Cosette lived in an apartment instead of a house, they'd be a "no way" as well.

There are two others under my consideration.

Those others are Sven (and Princess - remember Princess?) and Mrs. A (and Cosmo).  My figuring is that either way, I would learn something in an area I know little about.  :evil:

Honestly, though, I'm not that much of an animal person, so...

My final decision is to go with Roko, if only to give her cooking utensils a reason to exist.  I can handle the visitors in small doses.
Hadn't even thought of Mrs.  Augustus.good choice if you rent the basement/attic (if either are furnished). Melon strikes me as a daily visitor.

Have we done a poll asking us to choose from the assorted companion AI yet?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 01 Mar 2020, 18:03
I voted Hanners[1] because she's clean, and seems like she'd be very respectful of my personal boundaries.

[1] Roko would be my second choice.  I could stand having Melon in my life, but Yay would freak me the fuck out.  I really don't need any god-like beings in my life.[2]

[2] Then again, maybe I could stand to have a friend who could magic me citizenship in Ireland or Kiwiland.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Dngrsone on 01 Mar 2020, 18:11
Thought about voting Roko, but then reconsidered and I'd room with Millefeuille.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Somebody on 01 Mar 2020, 18:24
...has Millie had a SECOND set of butt implants? She's... a little over-proportioned in panel 2.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 01 Mar 2020, 19:52
As fun and cool as everyone might be with all of the characters, if I'm going to live with someone then I'd like to not endure their craziness, quirkiness, overbearing personalities, or

So looking over the list and the known characters...I think I'd actually like living with Jeremy and Seven. Why? They are the most normal of the group. That doesn't mean i wouldn't like the fun the others have, I'd just like to sleep peacefully without stepping on a lot of crumbs and stale bread, the overwhelming smell of disinfectant, being interrupted by someone getting up extremely early to roast beans, or the shenanigans of an AI who likely to cause me to need a tetanus shot or take penicillin.



As for the new strip: I hope Millefeuille likes bad jokes and has a funny comeback that pleases Brun because she could use the positivity.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 01 Mar 2020, 20:22
Okay, I'm too tired to understand the pun in the last panel. Could someone please explain it to me?

Also, y'all are a bunch of clankers, aren't ya? :laugh:
[Not trying to kink shame, just light teasing.]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 01 Mar 2020, 22:09
I say 'meel-fee'. But I am handicapped by having taken French, so when I see a French word, I pronounce it in the French manner.

I suspect Jeph has emphasized Millefeuille's bountiful booty so we won't forget about her implants.

Brün is muddying the distinction between serial and parallel, part of what makes the pun painful.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 01 Mar 2020, 23:03
Congrats to our humblebrag of the month winner.

There's no pun btw, it's just a cute USB backronym.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 01 Mar 2020, 23:16
So begins the real reason why Jeph had Renee and Brun move now: To move them closer to the centre of the robotic action!

Yes, Millifeulle is the sort of sweet personality who'd want to welcome new neighbours. It makes me think of how Roko has a fully-equipped kitchen in the hope that she'd have human friends visit her on occasion. I think that basically all of the AIs desperately want to have humans in their lives. There's something fulfilling about being in the outer area of our chaos, apparently!

Okay, I'm too tired to understand the pun in the last panel. Could someone please explain it to me?

It's a fairly weak one, really but props to Brun for doing what she always does when she genuinely wants someone to be her friend: She tells them a dog joke!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: hakko504 on 01 Mar 2020, 23:24
I went with Millefeuille. That's my kind of pastry. I was considering Roko or Renee/Brun, but I suspect I wouldn't be able to stand living around Renee for any longer period of time. She's just annoying when you get too much of her.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 01 Mar 2020, 23:26
Of all the puns her roommate makes, Renée takes the brun-t.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 02 Mar 2020, 02:51
Of all the puns her roommate makes, Renée takes the brun-t.
'Tis karma.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Mar 2020, 04:03
I think, due to my age, I'd get along better with Jim and Veronica - even if that means having to put up with the little snake lover.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 02 Mar 2020, 04:57
There's no pun btw, it's just a cute USB backronym.
Gee, I always called it the "dog alarm", or the "dog alarum" if I was reading Tolkien at the time.  I usually set it off while delivering morning newspapers...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Mar 2020, 05:01
With all due credit to EmberMelodica (https://www.reddit.com/user/EmberMelodica/) on the Subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/QContent/):

"What do you call a dog that also charges your cellphone?"

"A USB Pug!" :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Mar 2020, 06:45
...has Millie had a SECOND set of butt implants? She's... a little over-proportioned in panel 2.

I noticed the same thing. 


...maybe they're inflatable? 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Dngrsone on 02 Mar 2020, 08:47
Maybe she wore padded pants before getting her implant and hasn't gone shopping for padless pants?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 02 Mar 2020, 09:20
I say 'meel-fee'. But I am handicapped by having taken French, so when I see a French word, I pronounce it in the French manner.
Sorry to have to tell you this, but meel-foy is closer to actual French pronunciation than meel-fee, which would probably be understood as mille filles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Reaver on 02 Mar 2020, 12:46
Huh, IDK it seems really rude to call your new neighbor  "Robot Neighbor"  like insert anything else and it's..really not a good look so.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 02 Mar 2020, 12:58
Huh, IDK it seems really rude to call your new neighbor  "Robot Neighbor"  like insert anything else and it's..really not a good look so.

"Brun, we want our new neighbors to like us."

Brun's thought is likely one of two things:

a. Are you sure?
b. What do you mean, we?

(I frequently go months without speaking to any neighbor.)

In other words, Brun is being Brun.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: SmilingCat on 02 Mar 2020, 17:35
If I had to choose a roommate it'd probably be Elliot, because he seems like the one I'd be imposing on the least. And I think he'd be chill about my cat, which is simply non-negotiable.

Also, yes, you can always use more USB cables.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Mar 2020, 18:39
Comic’s up. More robots keep wandering in.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 02 Mar 2020, 18:52
At first I thought Beeps had gone off to talk to the former boss, who decided to be a statue.

Nope, she's just randomly wandered in and emoting. *lol*
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 02 Mar 2020, 20:53
If I had to choose a roommate it'd probably be Elliot, because he seems like the one I'd be imposing on the least. And I think he'd be chill about my cat, which is simply non-negotiable.

Also, yes, you can always use more USB cables.

We don't know much about his non-work life, so he might be a fun guy who simply enjoys reading or watching a game on TV.

Plus, you get to try out his baking attempts!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Mar 2020, 21:30
Penney and Will?  Like Steve and Cosette, stable but less accident-prone.  And Will's working evenings, so it would be quiet...



Or how about Sara and the velociraptor? 


...naaah, probably not all that quiet. 







Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 02 Mar 2020, 21:31
I'm going to buck the trend and move into my own place. I don't care what it costs.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 02 Mar 2020, 23:10
It's a weird kind of melancholy, isn't it? Yes, you're relieved to be out of a position for which you were ill-suited and, honestly, made you miserable anyway. However, it still hurts a bit to have to acknowledge to yourself that you were simply not good enough for that particular job. Beepatrice is definitely experiencing those mixed feelings today. In her case, the degree to which it is preying on her mind is demonstrated by the fact that she forgot to introduce herself; she just wandered over to the window and started monologuing!

I'm thinking about Brun's words in the last panel. I'm not sure that her question is negative but, rather, that it may be hopeful. Just how many new people are going to wander in and what strange new things is she going to see? To be a good bartender one must, after all, have a high tolerance for new and strange people and, indeed, to enjoy people-watching.

Meanwhile, Millifeulle's reaction suggests that Beepatrice has made her slightly embarrassed of her species!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 03 Mar 2020, 02:50
Penney and Will?  Like Steve and Cosette, stable but less accident-prone.  And Will's working evenings, so it would be quiet...



Or how about Sara and the velociraptor? 


...naaah, probably not all that quiet.
Are you suggesting Sarah did a 'Tammy and the T-rex'? And is the Allosaurus an A.I.?
[I only know about that movie thanks to the .gif set going around tumblr at the moment.]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 03 Mar 2020, 05:03
It's a weird kind of melancholy, isn't it? Yes, you're relieved to be out of a position for which you were ill-suited and, honestly, made you miserable anyway. However, it still hurts a bit to have to acknowledge to yourself that you were simply not good enough for that particular job.
Having made just such a transition recently, well writ.  Plus I got to watch my replacement, as I just shifted laterally, do the job better and then get the promotion I was angling for, which brings it's own level of angst on top of the whole situation.   Realistically I would have been even more miserable in that job now that I've had time to reflect, but giving up that misplaced priority brings its own level of angst on top of everything already mentioned.

However, I'm personally at a better place now, which is its own reward in many ways.  Plus I got to avoid a lot of work I didn't want to do that my successor did just fine with.  Which also brings its own level of self-animus...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Roborat on 03 Mar 2020, 12:26
Why do I get the feeling this story line is going to turn into a parody of the cabin scene in "A Night at the Opera"?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 03 Mar 2020, 12:45
Why do I get the feeling this story line is going to turn into a parody of the cabin scene in "A Night at the Opera"?
"... and two hard-boiled eggs."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 03 Mar 2020, 13:33
I'm thinking about Brun's words in the last panel. I'm not sure that her question is negative but, rather, that it may be hopeful. Just how many new people are going to wander in and what strange new things is she going to see? To be a good bartender one must, after all, have a high tolerance for new and strange people and, indeed, to enjoy people-watching.

I would describe the question as concerned.  Maybe another time Brun would be more positive, but she's just had a tough night at work, isn't in perfect health due to that, and doesn't want to be overly diurnal, well, pretty much ever.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Mar 2020, 13:44
I think Brun's reaction is more curiosity than anything else. "Huh - we left the door open and two robots wandered in. Are these results reproducible?"

When you're on the autism spectrum (which I am) and sometimes don't get how other people work (which occasionally happens to me), the scientific method can be your friend. Observe, form a hypothesis, test it, refine as needed.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 03 Mar 2020, 14:13
Yes, I agree. Like many of Brun's questions, she is simply seeking information to better understand the world around her. She's probably filed this scrap of information away as a normal thing, now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: NemesisDancer on 03 Mar 2020, 18:20
I love Clinton's new hair - kind of a novelty to see a QC character grow their hair longer rather than getting it cut drastically shorter :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 03 Mar 2020, 18:37
Yup, he's cute now...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 03 Mar 2020, 18:58
I'd prefer Elliot too - hey, I'd be sharing accommodation with a talented baker!
And you just know there's going to be leftovers, experiments, day-old stuff, etc...
(Nom Nom Nom)  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 03 Mar 2020, 19:26
Oh that is a good point.

I want to change my vote now.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 03 Mar 2020, 21:48
as the meme goes,

"oh no he's hot"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 03 Mar 2020, 22:57
For a moment I was like "Tai's looking weird today". Not sure whether I like the new haircut, but who am I to judge.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 03 Mar 2020, 23:14
Actually, Clinton, you might not know it but you're going to be a sixth wheel; that impromptu welcome party is getting crowded! In any case, given that alcohol will be involved, I'm guessing that Jeph is planning a few unplanned heartfelt utterance and unguarded actions to move along various romantic entanglements!

I'm wondering why Jeph hasn't shown us Robo-Hand yet. Has Clinton been investing in novelty covers and is wearing a particularly weird or funny one today?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: hakko504 on 03 Mar 2020, 23:28
Why do I get the feeling this story line is going to turn into a parody of the cabin scene in "A Night at the Opera"?
"... and two hard-boiled eggs."
I need to go rewatch that movie again. It's been at least a few months since last time. (BIG Marx fan here.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 04 Mar 2020, 02:27

"Poofy boy"... ??

Well.. that means something FAR different in the UK...



Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Mar 2020, 02:46

"Poofy boy"... ??

Well.. that means something FAR different in the UK...

I'm glad that I'm not the only one thinking that!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 04 Mar 2020, 04:17
Hmmm.  I took that as a comment on Clinton's hair.  Or are you thinking of poofy boi, meaning gay?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Mar 2020, 04:23
FWIW, the UK English spelling, as far as I was always taught, is 'pouf' but the brain does auto-associate sounds so effectively that this doesn't really matter. The communications centre of our brain jumps to the (wrong) meaning immediately and you're struggling to catch up!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: hakko504 on 04 Mar 2020, 04:55
Well, it defenitely reminded me of the Bruces sketch by Monty Python (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruces_sketch), especially rule 1,3,5&7.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: pwhodges on 04 Mar 2020, 05:50
FWIW, the UK English spelling, as far as I was always taught, is 'pouf'

Actually, the OED gives the spelling "pouf" in that sense as a variant of the more usual "poof".

I am also bemused that you say you were taught that spelling (though if it was in regard of the word's other meanings, fine).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 04 Mar 2020, 06:00
Clinton has no idea just how right he is.

I mean, about four wheels being better than three.  Only Veronica and Jim are old enough to remember when three-wheeled ATVs were being sold.  (They're not banned?)

Clinton is lightest and thus most likely to be affected by the beers.  And could Elliot be more blatant?  (Clinton can always be more oblivious.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 04 Mar 2020, 06:19
Only Veronica and Jim are old enough to remember when three-wheeled ATVs were being sold.  (They're not banned?)
Not banned, because then someone would have to track each one down, pay for it or repossess it, and then haul it away.  They are private property after all - you can't just take them.  I've got a Jarts game and another toy with ingestible magnets that could hurt children stupid enough eat more than one: that fact that I can't legally sell them to anyone doesn't hurt me in any way.  My youngest niece/nephew is way past the age of putting random things in their mouth.  The Jarts we play only with unintoxicated adults, so that's not an issue either.

Plus, three wheeled ATVs aren't deadly unless you're driving them stupidly to begin with.  (Yes, yes, I understand they are inherently unstable, so are most <4 wheeled vehicles.  We put up with motorcycles, and let children drive those...)  So, since they aren't an inherent menace to the public at large (poisonous, etc.), and they can't be sold (so the current owners can get their intended use from them), there's no need to round the remainder up.  They'll eventually age out of the fleet anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 04 Mar 2020, 09:17
FWIW, the UK English spelling, as far as I was always taught, is 'pouf' but the brain does auto-associate sounds so effectively that this doesn't really matter. The communications centre of our brain jumps to the (wrong) meaning immediately and you're struggling to catch up!

Nah, among the unwashed masses it was always just "Poof"...
And someone of a homosexual nature was called "Poofy".

"Pouf" was people trying to be'classy' with it... but more generally... was the name of a type of small footstool... called a "poufee" in Scotland... mainly because they were usually heavily quilted. :)

It's a throwback, no doubt, (and not a very comfortable one to talk about... but yeah, that sub-title threw me!)

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 04 Mar 2020, 09:23
...four wheels being better than three.  Only Veronica and Jim are old enough to remember when three-wheeled ATVs were being sold.  (They're not banned?)


This is a bit of weird synchronicity...
Today, I was shocked to see one of these just in front of me...

(https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/morgan-3-wheeler-12_1.jpg)

(Or at least something VERY like it!)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 04 Mar 2020, 09:53
Three wheeled vehicles, especially ones with the third wheel in the front, are more unstable than two-wheeled ones.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 04 Mar 2020, 10:21
I need to go rewatch [A Night at the Opera] again. It's been at least a few months since last time. (BIG Marx fan here.)
Oh yeah, the Marx Bros. were the best.

[zappa]
Some people like the Three Stooges better. I, for one, care less for them.
[/zappa]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 04 Mar 2020, 11:41
OK, what is the make of that vehicle?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 04 Mar 2020, 12:00
Steel, ash wood, and aluminium according to the manufacturer.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 04 Mar 2020, 12:06
I meant the brand/company name.  I can figure out what materials are used if I care to later.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 04 Mar 2020, 12:17
It's a Morgan 3 Wheeler.

https://www.morgan-motor.com/3-wheeler/
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 04 Mar 2020, 13:13
Not banned, because then someone would have to track each one down, pay for it or repossess it, and then haul it away.  They are private property after all - you can't just take them.  I've got a Jarts game and another toy with ingestible magnets that could hurt children stupid enough eat more than one: that fact that I can't legally sell them to anyone doesn't hurt me in any way.  My youngest niece/nephew is way past the age of putting random things in their mouth.  The Jarts we play only with unintoxicated adults, so that's not an issue either.

I want to say their sale was banned in this jurisdiction, but can find no evidence either way.  (Wikipedia doesn't discuss Canada, and I suspect it's provincial in nature.)  Never was outright taking them away discussed.  All I remember is that they're subject to the same registration rules as snowmobiles.  But I'm bitter after losing a curling league because our skip broke his ankle driving a trike.

And now I wanna play lawn darts.  Wonder if our family's set is still hiding in the basement.  If not, can I visit?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 04 Mar 2020, 19:52
New strip up.

I love how EVERYBODY suddenly has questions for the sex toy tester.  :-D :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 Mar 2020, 21:31
OK, what is the make of that vehicle?
Badum-tish
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 04 Mar 2020, 21:34
"asking for a friend, who is me"  ❤️
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Mar 2020, 23:06
I'm glad that the girls are getting along. Moving into a new home is always easier when you immediately bond with your neighbours!

I think that Beepatrice needs to explain that knowing how to make these devices blow up in spectacular ways doesn't mean knowing which give the user the best outcome. It's kind of like asking an electronics engineer which sound system gives the best reproduction of a particular form of music. They can tell you which one is more reliable but the rest depends strongly on a lot of subjective criteria.

So, Millifeulle works in R&D for a private organisation? Probably the defence industry. I mean, who else but the military is really interested in stuff like cloaking devices? However, this does make me wonder if that emu who broke her leg is actually the company mascot or something. It does sound like something that a modern marketing department would think is a useful investment!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 05 Mar 2020, 04:37
And now I wanna play lawn darts.  Wonder if our family's set is still hiding in the basement.  If not, can I visit?
I'll see if I can talk my wife out of them.  Maybe we can arrange a deal if yes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 05 Mar 2020, 04:56
I have to say...that was completely unexpected and hilarious! Whodathunkit: they'd get a kick out of the one job that folks would probably cry over admitting to having and are genuinely interested in her job for all of the right reasons!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 05 Mar 2020, 05:09
Clinton looks decidedly different to me, and I'm not just talking about the hairstyle. Can't quite put my finger on what it is though.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 05 Mar 2020, 06:16
Clinton looks decidedly different to me, and I'm not just talking about the hairstyle. Can't quite put my finger on what it is though.

His nose is...pointier?  More upturned?  Both?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Mar 2020, 08:24
Great! Now explain how Melon's ass ended up in low earth orbit!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Roborat on 05 Mar 2020, 12:09
I like how nobody bats an eye at Beeps job, but immediately starts asking questions.  I suspect the verdict will soon be that she has the coolest job ever.  As for big butt girl, it would be funny if it turns out that her job doesn't have military connections, someone is just trying to develop stealth Emu technology.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Mar 2020, 13:17
Brün has had many things in her life catch fire or explode. This is a reasonable question.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Mar 2020, 13:33
As for big butt girl, it would be funny if it turns out that her job doesn't have military connections, someone is just trying to develop stealth Emu technology.

The Australian army has greatly improved its tactical capabilities since 1932 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War) so it’s only fair that the emus try to maintain their advantage.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Mar 2020, 14:29
I'm surprised that no one's speculated yet on what part Emily might have in this.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 05 Mar 2020, 17:40
Come to think of it, has anyone seen Emily lately?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Mar 2020, 17:48
More to the point, has anyone ever seen Emily and the invisible emu in the same place?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 05 Mar 2020, 18:07
You wouldn't be able to, not without specialised equipment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Mar 2020, 18:12
Comic's up!

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Tova on 05 Mar 2020, 18:19
The top two panels initially looked like a single panel, making it appear as though the room reacted to the sudden alarm by dramatically telescoping the distance from the couch to the door.

Still. They must have a large apartment.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 05 Mar 2020, 21:11
Ok, that middle panel is definitely going to have to be a desktop wallpaper (and a possible poster in the store).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: chris73 on 05 Mar 2020, 21:35
Anyone remember Newman from Seinfeld, remember how he was amusing in small doses but quickly got quite tiresome when overused...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: TorporChambre on 05 Mar 2020, 22:29
Emily Azuma---until one of her prototypes turned me into a dog. Then, Yay.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 05 Mar 2020, 22:39
Beeps and Milli must KEEP SUMMER SAFE.

Which is the other way the robot apocalypse happens, aside from the more straightforward Skynet scenario.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Mar 2020, 23:27
The First Law of Robotics
"A robot shall not harm nor by inaction allow harm to come to a human."

Beepatrice thinks:
"Oh dear, that human really is rather large and muscular. I don't think that I thought this through, so time to find a way to backpedal before there's violence!"

That's why the QC synthetics aren't Asimovian robots: They're far more aware of themselves and their own safety and will actually experience 'second thoughts'. They're far more sentient than Three Laws minds can be because they don't seem to have anything like hard-coded directives. That said, I do think that this supports something I said in an earlier post that I do think that some synthetics have a deep, personal need to be around humans, to be useful to them and be there for them. Roko's fully-stocked kitchen, Momo watching Sam sleep and this sudden friendship all seem to point to such a psychological drive.

Now, am I the only one who thinks that Beeps' charge ended with her bouncing off of Elliot's chest and back into Millifeulle's arms?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: TRenn on 05 Mar 2020, 23:48
Three wheeled vehicles, especially ones with the third wheel in the front, are more unstable than two-wheeled ones.

Jeremy Clarkson can confirm. (https://youtu.be/QQh56geU0X8)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 06 Mar 2020, 00:29
They're far more sentient than Three Laws minds can be because they don't seem to have anything like hard-coded directives.
I agree that QC’s synthetics aren’t Three Laws Safe, but I think this statement about “Three Laws minds being less sentient” is highly debatable.

It’s easy to get the impression that Three Laws robots are inherently mentally shallow, because most of Asimov’s stories depicted them as barely sentient. I think that’s more about Asimov and his writing than an inescapable consequence of the Three Laws.

I’d argue that humans have lots of hardwired directives, and we aren’t noticeably less sentient as a result. The way humans (most humans, not all) obsess over sex and reproduction isn’t exactly rational, for example. You could say a Three Laws robot, while constrained in certain areas that humans are not, is also not constrained by many of the things that routinely constrain humans.

For an interesting treatment of the subject, there’s Ian Tregiillis and his clockwork automatons. They’re governed by a whole hierarchy of laws, far more than three. They have Asimov’s laws, but have other laws that are even higher priority than “no robot may harm a human or through inaction allow them to be harmed.” For example, there’s a technology-protection law, which states that a robot (or clakker as they’re called) must protect the trade secrets of clakker  technology, and must murder to protect it.

These laws are described as “geases,” and they’re compulsions that are enforced by pain. The books are told from the point of view of clakkers. They’re definitely fully sentient, but constantly whipped into narrow bands of behavior by the mental pain of those geases.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Meander on 06 Mar 2020, 02:46

Now, am I the only one who thinks that Beeps' charge ended with her bouncing off of Elliot's chest and back into Millifeulle's arms?

You are not the only one, and I would love a bonus panel on this.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 06 Mar 2020, 05:00
They're far more sentient than Three Laws minds can be because they don't seem to have anything like hard-coded directives.
I agree that QC’s synthetics aren’t Three Laws Safe, but I think this statement about “Three Laws minds being less sentient” is highly debatable.

It’s easy to get the impression that Three Laws robots are inherently mentally shallow, because most of Asimov’s stories depicted them as barely sentient. I think that’s more about Asimov and his writing than an inescapable consequence of the Three Laws.

This point reminds me of the movie Automata (2014, with Antonio Banderas as lead). I'll put my opinion in spoiler tags, since I might spoil something about the movie.

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 06 Mar 2020, 05:02
Looking at Millie's behinder in the middle panel, I would have expected more gluteal circumference than what's shown.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Mar 2020, 05:44
The only inescapable conclusion you can draw from the Three Laws is twofold: they are actually terrible at maintaining a moral frame of mind even if they sound good on paper, and they were probably invented as a marketing device.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Mar 2020, 05:50
I think that Asimov realised that there was something lacking in the three laws. That is why, towards the end of his life, he created the Zeroth Law and realised that it was so difficult to define 'the best interests of humanity' in logical and unequivocal terms that he made it in-universe unimplementable without doing something horrible to individuality and free will.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 06 Mar 2020, 06:13
I am confused. Why the assumption that Asimov *ever* thought the laws weren't lacking?

I admit, I haven't read everything he wrote, and what I did read was a long time ago, but my impression is that he came up with the laws specifically to tear them into shreds, by writing stories where they are subverted, ineffectual, or otherwise limited in effectiveness.

I see them as a literary device and a reasonable assumption to build stories from, not a proposed great way to solve everything ever. And yet I continually see them interpreted as Asimov's idea of what perfect robots would be like. Why? He examined how they could not serve their purpose in his own stories.

EDIT: according to Wikipedia, "Runaround", the very first story to explicitly feature the Three Laws of Robotics, is a story *about* how a robot nopes pretty hard on the laws due to how expensive the robot is. The Third Law takes precedence over the Second Law in the story, which is a clear violation of how the Laws work.

So the exact moment Asimov formulated specific Three Laws of Robotics, he *immediately* set out showing how they would be rearranged in specific circumstances.

EDIT 2: and - again, as per Wikipedia - the previous story to imply the existence of the Laws, "First Law", is about how a robot directly violates the First Law to protect its "offspring". The story, according to Asimov himself, is a parody, which blunts the point a bit, but still - even as a joke, he was already playing with what violating the Laws would entail.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Mar 2020, 06:27
Later he also introduces a zeroth law, which places the good of humanity over that of the individual.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 06 Mar 2020, 06:58
That was funny.

I do wonder... are humanoid robots deliberately built to be just human strong? And where is the line where greater strength comes into play? Punchbot, for instance, appeared to have greater than human strength.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Mar 2020, 07:58
A couple of problems with Asimov’s laws, which he touched on but did not fully address in his stories:

1. It is extremely difficult to formulate a logically consistent and complete definition of “human” that includes all humans and that a robot could understand.

2. Security - the Second Law, as formulated, requires a robot to obey any command from any human being, whether they are authorized or not. Examples abound as to why that’s a bad idea.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Mar 2020, 08:30
This is one of the reasons I liked the beginning of Kara's arc in Detroit: Become Human so much. She was sent runaway by an irresolvable First Law vs. First Law conflict and spontaneously created a Zeroth Law equivalent to enable her to resolve it. The step between being basically a very, very humanoid automaton and a fully self-aware being.

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 06 Mar 2020, 08:31
my impression is that he came up with the laws specifically to tear them into shreds, by writing stories where they are subverted, ineffectual, or otherwise limited in effectiveness.
Ye gods, no. Read “In Memory Yet Green,” the first volume of Asimov’s autobiography. He talks at length about the origin of the laws.

You have to understand that Asimov was writing for a time that was deeply afraid of robots. Robots were universally cartoon monsters, defaulting to “destroy all humans” mode. His earliest robot story, “Robbie,” is steeped in the assumption that the reader assumed robots were murder machines. The whole point of the story was that robots could be gentle and caring.

The three laws evolved out of that, and out of his interactions with John Campbell. Having done that, he immediately started using the explicit formulation of the laws as starting points for stories. Not because he intended to “tear them apart” from the start, but because it was part of his brainstorming process.

Most of the early stories tend to be about the strengths of the laws, and why they’re worded the way they are. Stories like “Runaround” and “Little Lost Robot” aren’t about standard Three Laws robots, they’re about robots where the Three Laws were deliberately altered for specific reasons. “Speedy” in “Runaround” has a strengthened 3rd law because he’s unusually valuable, and the plot’s resolved by invoking the first law. “Nestor” in “Little Lost Robot” has a weakened First Law because he’s working around experiments dangerous to humans, and the story is in part about why weakening the First Law is a Bad Idea.

If you read “The Caves of Steel,” Asimov’s first full-length robot novel, it’s anything but critical of the three laws. It’s a return to the themes of “Robbie,” in that it’s about a main character who hates and fears robots, but eventually comes to accept them once he’s exposed at length to a sympathetic robot (R. Daneel, who acts as his partner during the murder investigation at the insistence of the Spacers).

Sometime in the 80’s or so Asimov started feeling limited by the Laws, but in the 40’s and 50’s they were basic to his plots, not something he was trying to “tear down.”
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 06 Mar 2020, 08:38
That was funny.

I do wonder... are humanoid robots deliberately built to be just human strong? And where is the line where greater strength comes into play? Punchbot, for instance, appeared to have greater than human strength.

Remember, the bulk of the programming in a robot is to maintain sentience.

Some robots are definitely built to be stronger than humans (Bubbles, Crushbot, those who fought illegally).  Some have other means of defence (Momo).  Even if Beepatrice and Millefeuille are stronger than Elliot, do they know how to fight?  Elliot might be able to hold them off long enough to drain a significant amount of power, especially since his default reaction is essentially to defend rather than attack.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: theMarc on 06 Mar 2020, 09:23
"INTRUDERS!"
"BURGLARS!"
"INTRUGLARS!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 06 Mar 2020, 15:57
Is Beeps Naruto running?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Mar 2020, 23:59
IMO, one of the tricky but Very Important things to do with anything running a version of the Three Laws is to somehow keep them from coming up with an entirely logical interpretation of the First - or formulating a version of the Zeroth - that involves taking away all human freedom, for our own good / to protect us from ourselves and each other.

Because really, we'd all be so much safer (in both/all senses of the word) if we spent our entire lives locked into Matrix pods or something.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 07 Mar 2020, 07:03
Well, that's bizarre - Beeps just wanders in, Millefeuille admits that this will probably keep happening - but Elliot loudly announcing his (and Clinton's) entrance is treated as home invasion?!  :?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 07 Mar 2020, 13:02
Well, that's bizarre - Beeps just wanders in, Millefeuille admits that this will probably keep happening - but Elliot loudly announcing his (and Clinton's) entrance is treated as home invasion?!  :?

Yeah, the joke doesn't land for me at all because it strains credibility too much. Who hears a person come into a house openly and loudly and assumes "this is a burglar"?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 07 Mar 2020, 13:05
My money's on Amber.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Mar 2020, 19:06
IMO, one of the tricky but Very Important things to do with anything running a version of the Three Laws is to somehow keep them from coming up with an entirely logical interpretation of the First - or formulating a version of the Zeroth - that involves taking away all human freedom, for our own good / to protect us from ourselves and each other.

Because really, we'd all be so much safer (in both/all senses of the word) if we spent our entire lives locked into Matrix pods or something.

"With Folded Hands", Jack Williamson.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 07 Mar 2020, 20:47
"With Folded Hands", Jack Williamson.
Exactly. I thought of that story when talking about “Little Lost Robot” earlier.  “Nestor” doesn’t have the “...or through inaction allow a human to come to harm” clause in the First Law. “With Folded Hands” is the logical result of really thoroughly applying that clause.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Case on 07 Mar 2020, 23:45
Maybe she wore padded pants before getting her implant and hasn't gone shopping for padless pants?

Padded ... pants?

I recall padded jackets ... (One more reason to be grateful that FB didn't exist in the early 90s)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 08 Mar 2020, 00:27
Maybe she wore padded pants before getting her implant and hasn't gone shopping for padless pants?

Padded ... pants?

I recall padded jackets ... (One more reason to be grateful that FB didn't exist in the early 90s)

 Capitalism  (https://www.feelfoxy.com/padded-panties/)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: JimC on 08 Mar 2020, 14:31
Padded ... pants?
Capitalism  (https://www.feelfoxy.com/padded-panties/)
Apparently it seems there is no longer a safe answer to "does my bum look big in this"...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 09 Mar 2020, 03:27
Padded ... pants?
Capitalism  (https://www.feelfoxy.com/padded-panties/)
Apparently it seems there is no longer a safe answer to "does my bum look big in this"...

And asking "Should it look big?" is also wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 09 Mar 2020, 04:11
Padded ... pants?
Capitalism  (https://www.feelfoxy.com/padded-panties/)
Apparently it seems there is no longer a safe answer to "does my bum look big in this"...

And asking "Should it look big?" is also wrong.
I'm guessing "What would you prefer?" or "What are you aiming for?" are also both bad.

EDIT: typo fix
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 09 Mar 2020, 08:50

Been offline for a few days.
Came back to see that Clinton has been re-tagged as "Floofy" Boy...

Better... better.... :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4211 to 4215 (2nd to 6th March 2020)
Post by: DSL on 11 Mar 2020, 07:20
Maybe she wore padded pants before getting her implant and hasn't gone shopping for padless pants?

Padded ... pants?

I recall padded jackets ... (One more reason to be grateful that FB didn't exist in the early 90s)

How about inflatable pants (https://krforadio.com/the-latest-fashion-trend-inflatable-pants/)?