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Title: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 Apr 2020, 22:07
Jeph hasn't officially paired them off yet and the flirting is currently in a Schrodinger-esque wave state.
So en lieu of vague posting, here's something I learned recently.


EDIT: herp derp. Forgot to include these.

(click to show/hide)
Chrysopoeia is my favorite of the four, but Rubedo just has this presence to its creep factor that I really dig.

BTW, here's Lena Raine's YT channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbUHGz_K9jhvbQjfXdJUwxA/featured). The new Nether songs haven't been posted to it yet, otherwise I would have just used the ones from her channel.

EDIT 2: It seems a rather sizable chunk of the soundtrack was added by Gareth Coker with his compositions for the various mythology mash-up packs (https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/making-mythic-music).
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Apr 2020, 00:19
As Millie finds human/Robot pairings cool, she might be up for it.

Brun, on the other hand, may not have even picked up on it yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 19 Apr 2020, 18:59
Comic's up.

I can't tell if it's INTENTIONAL subtext or my yuri goggles are too good.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 19 Apr 2020, 23:21
Oof. That's rough, Brun.

To answer Millie's questions in the last panel, no and yes.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2020, 00:00
Well, I think that there's your problem right there, Brun. You really need to have had a platonic friendship with someone before you start dating. Make sure that you have something to talk about rather than just hope that you and a random stranger 'click' (remembering that Renee goes into blind dates with a very different objective in mind).

Meanwhile, if the synthetics mostly get their idea of romance from popular culture, lots and lots of things suddenly become a lot easier to understand!
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Apr 2020, 01:30
To be fair, it seems like most humans irl get their ideas of romance from popular culture as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 20 Apr 2020, 02:26
To be fair, it seems like most humans irl get their ideas of romance from popular culture as well.
The problems come when they fail to recognise the difference between a jester’s cautionary tale and a bard’s example to be lauded.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Apr 2020, 03:49
To be fair, it seems like most humans irl get their ideas of romance from popular culture as well.
The problems come when they fail to recognise the difference between a jester’s cautionary tale and a bard’s example to be lauded.
i.e. Romeo and Juliet vs Morticia and Gomez.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Apr 2020, 04:09
I would argue that even the one's that are meant to be lauded are not ones that should actually be emulated.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 20 Apr 2020, 05:35
IME, the best dates are those where you don't know you're on a date.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Apr 2020, 08:45
If Brun wants to go on a date with someone she has something to talk about with, she should date someone who works on atomic clocks. Or maybe a related field, like optics...
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 20 Apr 2020, 09:55
Millie, you're talking to a background process. Core Brün is still processing the fact that this boy found her interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 20 Apr 2020, 18:41
New strip up.

Awww. Cute moment.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Apr 2020, 21:23
And Jeph continues taunting the shippers.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2020, 23:13
Over on his Twitter feed, Jeph said that he's been making 'self-indulgent' comics for over a year. I just thought that I'd put that out there before adding that I know what Jeph is trying to do in today's strip because it makes narrative sense based on his very obvious objective for this arc (show that Millie 'gets' Brun on a level no-one else does). However, it doesn't actually do the job and, instead, comes across as random and weird.

So, moving on...

Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 21 Apr 2020, 03:43
On some strange level, the fact that Jeph has come out and said that he has been making self-indulgent comics means that I am fine with it in a way that I wouldn't have been if he'd not said anything.

The idea that Brun and Millie can each communicate in a way that the other gets does come across for me. Although I admit that my initial reaction was just, as suggested by others, that he is teasing (or indulging) shippers.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: DSL on 21 Apr 2020, 07:20
IME, the best dates are those where you don't know you're on a date.
Would that include the James Caan character in "Misery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_(film))"?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 21 Apr 2020, 07:50
It's very soothing until you realise that you need to get the escapement assembly up just 1/20ieth of a millimetre to get the entire thing to work again. But very satisfying when you finally get there.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Apr 2020, 09:32
Weird falling asleep thought; D&D party part 2:

Renee: bard, College of Satire
Brun: artificer, either Gadgetsmith or Potionsmith
Elliot: fighter, Brute or Knight (code of honor and such)
Clinton: wizard, School of invention OR Gadgetsmith artificer
Millifeuille: wizard, School of Illusion OR Infusionsmith artificer
Jones: NPC Infusionsmith artificer that Millie works with

Still working out ideas for Mayb Roko, Beeps, and the rest of that grouping.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 21 Apr 2020, 09:44
IME, the best dates are those where you don't know you're on a date.
Would that include the James Caan character in "Misery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_(film))"?

IME.  The closest I've come to that experience was a time where I opened the door to my building to go to work and a grocery cashier whom I'd been flirting with was right outside waiting for me.  (Our workplaces were literally across the street from each other.)

Turns out she lived in the next building over, but it disturbed me quite a bit at the time.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 21 Apr 2020, 18:56
Now what does Millie need to ask Faye? *lol*
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 21 Apr 2020, 19:08
Now what does Millie need to ask Faye? *lol*
"How do I know if a girl likes me, likes me?"
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Apr 2020, 19:17
Well then. It seems I owe the shippers an apology.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 21 Apr 2020, 20:17
yes, butt
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Apr 2020, 21:45
Now what does Millie need to ask Faye? *lol*
"How do I know if a girl likes me, likes me?"

Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 21 Apr 2020, 21:45
Jeph knows what his audience wants.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 21 Apr 2020, 22:12
Ooohh, I see so many chances of misunderstanding here!

I strongly suspect that Brun's response here is the sheer joy and relief of simply being in the presence of someone who understands, someone she can trust to not assume that Brun is "just being weird".
But I suspect that Millie (with her hobby of AI/human VR romance sims) has assumed romantic interest by Brun.
Now Faye (still in the bliss-time of her own AI-human romance) is being brought in to the mix...

Where's that popcorn?!  :-D


Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: no one special on 21 Apr 2020, 22:13
awwwwww shit THE SS BRUNMILLE HAS SET SAIL
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Apr 2020, 23:13
What will make this interesting is that I doubt that Brun will really reciprocate in an obvious way. So, Millie, if she is going to do this, is going to have to be able to read a lot of subtext! However, I'm still hoping that this remains totally platonic because Brun really needs a friend who is fully able to see where she's coming from.

Oh, and Jeph? We need to hear the whole dog joke!

Now what does Millie need to ask Faye? *lol*

"Teach me your ways, oh master!" Or words to that effect.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 21 Apr 2020, 23:15
What kind of dog generates the most energy?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 21 Apr 2020, 23:18
Sounds like it could be a good Patreon feature: all the jokes you didn't know you didn't want to hear.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Meander on 22 Apr 2020, 02:55
They're HOLDING HANDS.

squeeeee!

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tormuse on 22 Apr 2020, 07:41
They're HOLDING HANDS.

squeeeee!

That is all.

I came here to say precisely this.  Commence squeeing!  :D
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 22 Apr 2020, 09:09
Millie, you're talking to a background process. Core Brün is still processing the fact that this boy dog found her interesting.
There; fixed.   :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 22 Apr 2020, 09:11
They're HOLDING HANDS.
But women in our society are allowed to do that without any implication of romantic interest, unlike men or other pairings.

Mind you, I'm up for a good squeee, but I'm not seeing it yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 22 Apr 2020, 10:28
Millie, you're talking to a background process. Core Brün is still processing the fact that this boy dog found her interesting.
There; fixed.   :angel:

He's a good boy?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 22 Apr 2020, 11:45
Welcome, new person!

I mean I have lurked for a long time. It is just that I didn't have a joke to tell before this, and I am naught but those.

But in all seriousness, I do not think that there is need for the SS Brunmille. There is people who do not enjoy being in a relationship, just saying.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 22 Apr 2020, 12:52
They're HOLDING HANDS.
But women in our society are allowed to do that without any implication of romantic interest, unlike men or other pairings.

First, I didn't know that and don't see it at all in these parts.

Second, some Middle Eastern cultures do do platonic hand-holding.  I don't know if Lebanese is one of those cultures or not.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Apr 2020, 13:38
Welcome, new person!

I mean I have lurked for a long time. It is just that I didn't have a joke to tell before this, and I am naught but those.

But in all seriousness, I do not think that there is need for the SS Brunmille. There is people who do not enjoy being in a relationship, just saying.

A well taken point. We don't have any information that Brun is wanting a relationship. I'll be delighted if she winds up with a justafriend who really gets her.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 22 Apr 2020, 13:49
What kind of dog generates the most energy?

Probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnspit_dog but I very much doubt that's what Millifeuille was talking about. According to https://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/05/13/311127237/turnspit-dogs-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-vernepator-cur, some suspect it was a kind of Welsh corgy, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Apr 2020, 14:00
They're HOLDING HANDS.
But women in our society are allowed to do that without any implication of romantic interest, unlike men or other pairings.

First, I didn't know that and don't see it at all in these parts.

Second, some Middle Eastern cultures do do platonic hand-holding.  I don't know if Lebanese is one of those cultures or not.
It's a regional thing in the U.S.
I vaguely remember hearing that there were places it wasn't accepted so much, but I can't think of a place offhand that outright frowns on it. It's fine in Kansas, so it must be in one of the absurdly conservative states.
We're purple in terms of red-to-blue. Please keep the snide comments to yourselves.

EDIT: Gaddammit. I stand corrected. We were purple four years ago (the last time I checked). I hate how divisive things have become.
EDITs 2 & 3: working on HTML formatting.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Inconsequential on 22 Apr 2020, 15:19
didnotseethatcoming.gif

thatescalatedquickly.gif

ordidit.gif

1) You're so pretty.
2) You're very pretty.
3) A Moment, perhaps An Epiphany
4) Visible glowing (well, not emitting light, just happy and animated)
5) Walk home holding hands.
6) ????

disgonbegud.gif
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Autistic Vulture on 22 Apr 2020, 18:57
To be fair, I'm no better than Millefeuille at identifying dates.

Thing that bothers me: robots in this comic seem either very naive (Millefeuille, Beeps, Winslow, and possibly Momo) or very worldly (Roko, May, Bubbles, Pintsize in his own weird way).  Is there even one that falls close to the middle of the scale?  Or is this dichotomy necessary to maintain comedy?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 22 Apr 2020, 19:16
Aww.

"It depends" probably.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 22 Apr 2020, 19:32
Remember when Mille was drunkenly talking about "connecting" with Clinton? Back then, I observed it would probably be yet another one-strip thing, like Roko imagining his Human Abs, dropped pretty much immediately and never mentioned again. Because that's how things roll with Clinton.

To quote Laurie Anderson: Oh Boy, Right Again.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 22 Apr 2020, 19:43
hi jeph
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 22 Apr 2020, 19:52
I claim "Close enough".
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 22 Apr 2020, 19:57
To be fair, I'm no better than Millefeuille at identifying dates.

Thing that bothers me: robots in this comic seem either very naive (Millefeuille, Beeps, Winslow, and possibly Momo) or very worldly (Roko, May, Bubbles, Pintsize in his own weird way).  Is there even one that falls close to the middle of the scale?  Or is this dichotomy necessary to maintain comedy?
Has Jeph ever elaborated on how AIs are made? Since in an hypothesis some of them might be decades old are some might have been around for just a few years for all I know.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Apr 2020, 20:32
To be fair, I'm no better than Millefeuille at identifying dates.

Thing that bothers me: robots in this comic seem either very naive (Millefeuille, Beeps, Winslow, and possibly Momo) or very worldly (Roko, May, Bubbles, Pintsize in his own weird way).  Is there even one that falls close to the middle of the scale?  Or is this dichotomy necessary to maintain comedy?
Has Jeph ever elaborated on how AIs are made? Since in an hypothesis some of them might be decades old are some might have been around for just a few years for all I know.
Somewhat.
We know they're effectively created in batches in some sort of creche, and they stay in the creche's OS until such time as they opt to become embodied.

Searching "creche" in the forum's search function ought to get you back to the comic it's established in as well as giving you some more discussion info on how the AIs form.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 22 Apr 2020, 20:50
"Because dates are messy and complicated. And we just ... had a pleasant time together."

----

Y'know, if Millie takes Brün out of the Elliot-Brün-Clinton triangle, things would be much simpler. And we Can't Have That.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 22 Apr 2020, 21:44
I really feel like Faye was channeling my feelings about the whole "was this a date?" question.

So.

She can judge all of my posts now.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Dinaverg on 22 Apr 2020, 21:59
so I mean, we're sort of seeing the author's view in faye's reaction face, right? 'yes, obviously it was a date.'

The question, the one mille probably wants to be asking, is 'does this or will this (or do I want this to) have any romantic or sexual implications?' While I consider freeing the concept of a date from the associated social expectations to be a good thing, on the whole; we can't just pretend they don't exist in the first place.

that said, the only real answer to any of -that- is probably a big ol' 'iunno, ask her'.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: immortalfrieza on 22 Apr 2020, 22:10
Remember the days when this comic wasn't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else?

...Yeah, me neither.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 22 Apr 2020, 23:26
Um, yes. I remember storylines that weren't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else.

Roko's dysphoria? Bubbles' memories? Hannelore's relationship with her mother and father? Claire's exams and future career? Marten figuring out his life's goals? Dora's trust issues? Remember those? Should I go on?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2020, 23:32
I'm not brilliant at reading body language. However, if I'm right, irrespective of the answer, Millie wants this to have been a date. She's reacting with unconscious pleasure to the memories of her morning with Brun.

Of course, this is where things get complicated. Just because Millie likes Brun enough to go over the fabled 'like-like' boundary, is this reciprocated? Can it be reciprocated? I think that this is where Faye and Bubbles will really be able to help her because I think that Millie can justly be concerned that she avoids pushing things.

Meanwhile, Faye now knows what it's like to be Marten when Dora or Tai come to beg him for relationship advice.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Apr 2020, 00:51
I may not be great at reading others, but Faye's expression in the last panel is one I'm quite familiar with. I've worn it often.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 23 Apr 2020, 05:19
Can it be reciprocated?
Considering the buildup of Brun so far, that answer is clearly no, which leaves the Clinton-Elliot-Brun triangle intact.  Though the clearer it becomes that Brun isn't there, the closer we can bring Roko and Millie (for example) and the easier for Elliot to grow a pair and start trying with Clinton.

Clearly Brun could grow some more and maybe begin figuring out the whole relationship dynamic with much possible hilarity (not all at Brun's expense either).  In that same vein, Marten and Claire getting together may finally give Clinton the space he needs to figure out who he is, not in relation to Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 23 Apr 2020, 07:59
No, it can’t be reciprocated. Brun’s on the spectrum and doesn’t really understand why you’d want a relationship. If past story arcs didn’t make that clear, her summary of the yes/no consequences of going on a date should hammer that home.

There’s absolutely no reason to think Mille and Roko would get together. Not only have they shown zero interest in each other, there’s no bread involved, or Human Abs.

Despite Clinton’s romantic interests so far being entirely about women, I wouldn’t be surprised at this point if Elliot-Clinton became a thing. It’s not so much that Elliot’s been interested for ages, since Clinton’s followed similar arcs where he’s interested in someone and it never worked out. It’s that walk they had together. Jeph tends to foreshadow relationships that way.

Clinton’s heterosexuality so far doesn’t bear. Faye was exclusively hetero until Bubbles started fantasizing about her.

To be honest, I wouldn’t mind a storyline where things didn’t work out because not everyone is attracted to all genders and species. If robots are a species, that is.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Apr 2020, 08:21
People on the spectrum can understand wanting relationships.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 23 Apr 2020, 08:48
Not all of them. My understanding is the whole point of talking about “the spectrum” is that there’s considerable variance in what that means. Brun’s been presented explicitly as someone who doesn’t really understand why you’d want to date. She only accepted once out of curiosity, and her takeaway was that they’re boring. Always.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: David F on 23 Apr 2020, 12:35
It occurred to me that when Brun was describing what she liked about clocks, much of that precision engineering also applies to Millie...  And they did hit it off pretty well, the opposite of Brun's "dates are boring". 

Still, if it's going to go anywhere at all, it's going to be at a pace that makes every other relationship in the comic to date seem brisk...
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 23 Apr 2020, 13:41
For the last time, it's not a date unless it's clear it's a date.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Apr 2020, 13:44
Not all of them. My understanding is the whole point of talking about “the spectrum” is that there’s considerable variance in what that means. Brun’s been presented explicitly as someone who doesn’t really understand why you’d want to date. She only accepted once out of curiosity, and her takeaway was that they’re boring. Always.

Before we start throwing around words like 'ableist', might I suggest that maybe the cause is either a lack of experience or that Brun may be some variety of asexual as opposed to it being that she's on the autism spectrum?

EDIT: Removing extraneous 'there' and clearing out weasel-words.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 23 Apr 2020, 14:45
Not all of them. My understanding is the whole point of talking about “the spectrum” is that there’s considerable variance in what that means. Brun’s been presented explicitly as someone who doesn’t really understand why you’d want to date. She only accepted once out of curiosity, and her takeaway was that they’re boring. Always.

Why do you think that Clinton’s heterosexuality so far doesn’t bear, and yet Brun's lack of interest in relationships so far does? Why couldn't she have the same kind of epiphany?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Penquin47 on 23 Apr 2020, 15:27
Wasn't there a strip where Clinton was talking about the possibility of not being straight, and he basically said something like "I think I am but I'm open to new data contradicting that"?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Apr 2020, 16:30
Needs to go in the wiki if so.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Apr 2020, 17:06
SIDEBAR: I've got new info in regards to this week's poll:

It seems a rather sizable chunk of the soundtrack was added by Gareth Coker with his compositions for the various mythology mash-up packs (https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/making-mythic-music). Nearly doubling it with roughly five-hours-and-forty-five-minutes.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: MrNumbers on 23 Apr 2020, 18:39
weird to have *everyone* have a crush on the character who was introduced by having her point a shotgun at Clinton for no reason but go off I guess

(redacted to a harpoon)
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 23 Apr 2020, 18:48
Faye and Bubbles giving romantic advice makes me lol.

Is BUbbles wearing one of Faye's shirts, too?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 23 Apr 2020, 18:55
This gonna turn into a love square.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Apr 2020, 20:06
This gonna turn into a love square.
Could do.
Though with Jones, it has the potential for a love pentagon. Or a love square "with one rather ambitious point (https://youtu.be/mGq60HUY1xI?list=PL_9VobYoMHhBjLjSxq5vzNW_9b00VUxiE&t=216)".


Relax, the link is for a specific timestamp in the youtube video for the particular reference. Incidentally, the latest episode went up today.
EDIT: Also, the episode linked has a great acapella cover of Wayfaring Stranger and is basically where the plot starts.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Wombat on 23 Apr 2020, 20:22
For the last time, it's not a date unless it's clear it's a date.
I just want to second this. And clear to both/all people on the date! Just in case that needed clarifying.

One time someone asked me on a "second date" when I wasn't aware we had had a first one. And I can see that being fun for comedic effect, but my real experience of it was moreso discomfort.

If the people involved both/all want to retroactively label something a date, I think that would be fine. But if Brun doesn't consider it a date, that's really more relevant than if Faye and Bubbles do.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: alc40 on 23 Apr 2020, 20:23
Wasn't there a strip where Clinton was talking about the possibility of not being straight, and he basically said something like "I think I am but I'm open to new data contradicting that"?
Yep, https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3710
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: SeattleCrochetWoman on 23 Apr 2020, 21:42
Um, yes. I remember storylines that weren't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else.

Roko's dysphoria? Bubbles' memories? Hannelore's relationship with her mother and father? Claire's exams and future career? Marten figuring out his life's goals? Dora's trust issues? Remember those? Should I go on?

Faye’s alcoholism and alcohol poisoning,and how she dealt with that.  May’s problems with her chassis being substandard and Roko trying to get her a better one. Sam working at Union Robotics, and any storyline with Sam. Fay and Bubs starting Union Robotics before they became involved romantically.  Any strip with Melon. Millie’s new butt. Claire and her mom getting high, and the dog that appeared or Claire’s mom found. Beeps and Roko’s evolving working relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: thErgonomic on 23 Apr 2020, 21:57
That sound is just off somehow.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: SeattleCrochetWoman on 23 Apr 2020, 21:59
Not all of them. My understanding is the whole point of talking about “the spectrum” is that there’s considerable variance in what that means. Brun’s been presented explicitly as someone who doesn’t really understand why you’d want to date. She only accepted once out of curiosity, and her takeaway was that they’re boring. Always.

I removed a couple comments because I misunderstood your comment to mean that Brun couldn’t have a relationship because she’s autistic and that autistic people don’t understand why anyone would want relationships. When you were just talking about Brun and how her autism affects her.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: SeattleCrochetWoman on 23 Apr 2020, 22:03
It occurred to me that when Brun was describing what she liked about clocks, much of that precision engineering also applies to Millie...  And they did hit it off pretty well, the opposite of Brun's "dates are boring". 

Still, if it's going to go anywhere at all, it's going to be at a pace that makes every other relationship in the comic to date seem brisk...

Even a friendship with another woman where she felt like an equal instead of someone to be taken care of would probably be invaluable to Brun.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2020, 23:21
In which Faye and Bubbles assure Millifeulle that their romantic history is in no way an example to aspire to follow. Even if you ignore the climax with the criminal mastermind and the god-tier AI. No, Faye put it best in panel 3: Just focus on being Brun's friend. If there is going to be anything else, it will happen in its own time.

Is Bubbles wearing one of Faye's shirts, too?  :-D

In the grand tradition of significant others throughout history, Bubbles 'borrowed' the Angry Bear t-shirt and never gave it back. It is now so stretched that it will never fit Faye again but Faye kind of doesn't care. She kind of likes it where it is!
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 24 Apr 2020, 06:32
Um, yes. I remember storylines that weren't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else.

Roko's dysphoria? Bubbles' memories? Hannelore's relationship with her mother and father? Claire's exams and future career? Marten figuring out his life's goals? Dora's trust issues? Remember those? Should I go on?

Those are all valid, of course, but except for Roko's dysphoria they are also storylines from pretty far back in the comic.
I have to admit that to me the storylines lately seem to be, say, meandering a little? And it does seem to be quite a bit about love interests (although that was always a big part of the comic anyway).

However, besides the fact that I don't mind it anyway, the fact that Brun is central to both the arc with Elliott and Clinton, and now with Millefeuille, makes me think Jeph has a specific longer arc surrounding Brun in mind related to all of this.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: LorneReams on 24 Apr 2020, 09:54
I'm starting to feel bad for Clinton. Is he going to be the perpetual missed connection guy?
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Apr 2020, 10:28
Welcome, new person!

I hope not, but he's got a pattern going.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 24 Apr 2020, 13:48
Wasn't there a strip where Clinton was talking about the possibility of not being straight, and he basically said something like "I think I am but I'm open to new data contradicting that"?
Yep, https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3710
About a 0.2 on the Kinsey scale, like me... Never had even a little sexual attraction to any man, but not ruling the possibility out entirely.

(When I mentioned my 0.2 self-rating to a friend, she asked "meaning, if it's in the dark and nobody will ever know...?"  :laugh: )
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Apr 2020, 14:06
I'm pretty low on the Kinsey scale, myself, and although there have been men that I have found attractive, considering that I am firmly heterormantic, and not really into the casual thing, the whole exercise is pretty much academic.
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Apr 2020, 15:53
Um, yes. I remember storylines that weren't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else.

Roko's dysphoria? Bubbles' memories? Hannelore's relationship with her mother and father? Claire's exams and future career? Marten figuring out his life's goals? Dora's trust issues? Remember those? Should I go on?

Those are all valid, of course, but except for Roko's dysphoria they are also storylines from pretty far back in the comic.
I have to admit that to me the storylines lately seem to be, say, meandering a little? And it does seem to be quite a bit about love interests (although that was always a big part of the comic anyway).

However, besides the fact that I don't mind it anyway, the fact that Brun is central to both the arc with Elliott and Clinton, and now with Millefeuille, makes me think Jeph has a specific longer arc surrounding Brun in mind related to all of this.
Wait, how long ago IRL did Hanners get back from her soulsearching world tour after confronting her mom?

EDIT: incomplete thought, need sleep
Title: Re: WCDT 4246-4250 (April 20th-24th, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 24 Apr 2020, 17:37
Um, yes. I remember storylines that weren't solely about everybody hooking up with everybody else.

Roko's dysphoria? Bubbles' memories? Hannelore's relationship with her mother and father? Claire's exams and future career? Marten figuring out his life's goals? Dora's trust issues? Remember those? Should I go on?

Those are all valid, of course, but except for Roko's dysphoria they are also storylines from pretty far back in the comic.

Yes, and although SeattleCrochetWoman did a good job of recapping some more recent storylines, that is precisely my point. Not only are they from pretty far back, almost all of them remain stubbornly unresolved. Almost as though Jeph simply doesn't know where to take them. Of the ones I mentioned, only the Bubbles' memories story was resolved. And I felt that even that resolution was abrupt and unsatisfying, as some of you would be aware.

Faye’s alcoholism and alcohol poisoning,and how she dealt with that.  May’s problems with her chassis being substandard and Roko trying to get her a better one. Sam working at Union Robotics, and any storyline with Sam. Fay and Bubs starting Union Robotics before they became involved romantically.  Any strip with Melon. Millie’s new butt. Claire and her mom getting high, and the dog that appeared or Claire’s mom found. Beeps and Roko’s evolving working relationship.

The alcoholism one is kind of implicitly resolved, probably as much as it can be anyway (that can never be 100% resolved). The ones in involving Claire's Mum don't really need resolving (similarly the butt and Melon stories). Every other storyline mentioned here is still in the air.

The Faye+Bubbles storylines was the last time we really had a story with a number of interesting threads beside just "will they or won't they". And while there's nothing wrong with the current stories, it would be nice if there was a little more meat on the bones.

Is it too much to ask for us to revisit one of these unresolved storylines? Literally any of them? And not just "let's remind the viewer that this storyline still exists" like we periodically have with Marten's hopelessly undecided life goals. Actually progress them.

Because if the shippers are the only audience Jeph cares about now, just tell it to me straight so I can read something else.