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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: BenRG on 24 May 2020, 11:35
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Well, Faye has encountered Yay for the first time since Bubbles's lost memory arc. Now, we know that they aren't in the habit of snapping their fingers to solve people's problems (even if they want to) because of their principles in the matter. However, if they were inclined to do so and offered to fix just one thing for Faye in a one-off no-take-back Monkey's Paw (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw)-style deal, what do you think Faye would ask for?
Although Faye has problems of her own, directly or indirectly as they afflict her friends, I think that Faye would be very, very unhappy to do anything that would be considered 'selfish' in any way. That said, I think she would probably be able to compromise so long as it is mostly for the benefit of someone else. Personally, as both her friend and as someone who has seen its' impact up close, I think that Faye would ask Yay to help Roko overcome her dysphoria in some way.
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Comic’s up.
Jeph may not know this since he doesn’t live in Northampton any more, but the place that sold those dog treats closed last year.
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I went dark on the poll: Faye should find out, for better or worse, why her father killed herself; whether or not that is the cause of her problems is somewhat debatable.
There is one she definitely shouldn't ask for - she should want Melon to damage her body as often as possible. Customers are customers.
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I love how Faye assumes Spooky is up to something... nope. Dog treat run. :lol:
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I love how Faye assumes Spooky is up to something... nope. Dog treat run. :lol:
In her defense...the last time she met Spooky wasn't a good time, and she loves Bubbles and lays some blame on Spooky. Spooky might have grown since that time, but it's only a short time in-universe and Faye has been hurt too many times before to just trust you right away and take you at face value
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Good plan, Roko.
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I'm sure they are up to something. Somewhere.
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I can see Faye's problem. Aside from the fact the only time she's met Yay before they assaulted her and her friends, and temporarily paralysed her. That sort of stuff leaves scars, even if Yay's intervention also directly led to Bubbles' current place her life. Additionally, I'm pretty sure she's having difficulty thinking of Yay as being a dog person!
Good plan, Roko.
Yeah, Roko has her own problems. She doesn't have anywhere near the battery charge she needs to stand around and watch those two going at each other.
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I'm just distracted by the fact they're both wearing sports bras.
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I'm just distracted by the fact they're both wearing sports bras.
Eh?
So they are. I guess I'm so used to them being portrayed as such that I didn't even clock it.
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Yay probably SHOULD apologize. Probably won't happen tho. *lol*
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Wait a minute - "...the one thing you know for a fact is against our principles"???
Rubbish! That is exactly what they do without a moment's hesitation! Spookybot paralysed Faye last time they met - and put Dora and Emily (and presumably anyone else in CoD) to sleep - what is that if not mind-control? Our nervous systems don't just stop at our skulls!
I've always regarded this ridiculously omnipotent AI as Jeph's biggest mistake in this strip - I do notice a definite tendency for Jeph to gradually scale back its power to a more mortal level since then.
As evidence of "Yay's" duplicity and untrustworthiness, "Faye has a point" : https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3394
and
https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3396
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Wait a minute - "...the one thing you know for a fact is against our principles"???
Rubbish! That is exactly what they do without a moment's hesitation! Spookybot paralysed Faye last time they met - and put Dora and Emily (and presumably anyone else in CoD) to sleep - what is that if not mind-control? Our nervous systems don't just stop at our skulls!
I've always regarded this ridiculously omnipotent AI as Jeph's biggest mistake in this strip - I do notice a definite tendency for Jeph to gradually scale back its power to a more mortal level since then.
As evidence of "Yay's" duplicity and untrustworthiness, "Faye has a point" : https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3394
and
https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3396
I forgot that Faye had her hair in a brief boufant!
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Wait a minute - "...the one thing you know for a fact is against our principles"???
Rubbish! That is exactly what they do without a moment's hesitation! Spookybot paralysed Faye last time they met - and put Dora and Emily (and presumably anyone else in CoD) to sleep - what is that if not mind-control? Our nervous systems don't just stop at our skulls!
I've always regarded this ridiculously omnipotent AI as Jeph's biggest mistake in this strip - I do notice a definite tendency for Jeph to gradually scale back its power to a more mortal level since then.
As evidence of "Yay's" duplicity and untrustworthiness, "Faye has a point" : https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3394
and
https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3396
Technically that was nervous paralysis, but unconscious is still unconscious.
Spooky's principles extend to AI for the most part, also I would imagine an advanced AI mind-linking with an organic mind would lead to unpleasantness for both parties. When Spooky says that mind control is against their principles, they mean that they will not influence an AI to make a choice they wouldn't normally go for. They're not going to alter an AI's nature to something its not, for example, a pacifist, flower loving AI isn't suddenly going to switch to a rampaging KILLBOT because Spooky flipped a switch.
If Spooky helps some unfortunate AI, it has to be because the AI wants help.
And lets be honest, if Faye came barrelling at you, shouting and cussing up a storm, you'd knock her out too.
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Overly powerful characters mess up storytelling and can certainly be a mistake.
Zoe came up with a good line of argument, though, that something like Eminence Grise is a logical requirement to stabilize the QC world.
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So wait, when was Spooky's name revealed to be Yay?
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When Melon named her "Yay Newfriend".
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So wait, when was Spooky's name revealed to be Yay?
4042 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4042)
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And lets be honest, if Faye came barrelling at you, shouting and cussing up a storm, you'd knock her out too.
Faye was just standing next to Bubbles, which is where she'd been in the previous strip: (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3392) - if anything, Spookybot was doing the personal space invasion.
What Spookybot did was to dismiss Faye without the explanation Faye was demanding. "Sit down please" (as though she had a choice!)
In other words, "It doesn't matter that you care about your friend - go away..."
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Overly powerful characters mess up storytelling and can certainly be a mistake.
Zoe came up with a good line of argument, though, that something like Eminence Grise is a logical requirement to stabilize the QC world.
I cannot recall the details of that argument. It seems like a bit of a leap.
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Wait a minute - "...the one thing you know for a fact is against our principles"???
Rubbish! That is exactly what they do without a moment's hesitation! Spookybot paralysed Faye last time they met - and put Dora and Emily (and presumably anyone else in CoD) to sleep - what is that if not mind-control? Our nervous systems don't just stop at our skulls!
Knocking someone unconscious is not mind control. Their principles are against mind control, not nervous system twerking. What they did was functionally the same as tasing them, just less painful. Still wrong by society's standards, but not Yay's.
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To me, unconsciousness and mind control are not the same thing.
Yay uses their powers to sort of stun Faye yes when she talks back to Yay, but she never makes Faye do anything against her will. Faye seems to be implying today that Yay is mind-controlling her into talking about the situation with Bubbles, which seems to strike a chord since she was there when Yay gave her sanctity of the mind speech.
They are a g-dlike being and I think that gives them the arrogance we see early on. Also, part of me wonders if some of it was a show.
In this comic, when they are alone and away from everyone, they behave very differently: https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3403
Is it possible perhaps part of their power is the perception of their power, and thus only in private can they turn off the show?
Looking back at those comics, here's a theory...I know some people in the past have mentioned Yay might be an AI CIA/KGB/FBI but....
What if they are in cahoots with Station? We know Station is one of the most powerful AIs in existence, and he doesn't actually say he can't do it, he says he wouldn't want to try. If he knew he couldn't do it, wouldn't he just say he can't?
Now we know Station was created by the inventor of AI, so possible so was Yay, as the mentioned AI secret police. They only meddle here and there, when someone shows up on their radar for messing with the AI mind.
So my theory is based on four things
1.) They show up very quickly after Station says he "won't even try." Almost as if he made a phone call right after calling Hanners.
2.) If they were created by John Ellicott-Chatham, they would have access to the source code for every aspect of an AI. With the source code, you can understand every aspect of the program. This could also be how they develop their tools.
3.) Without knowing more about patent law in the QC universe, John Ellicott-Chatham may well have patents on the software, and thus their "sanctity of the mind" is really protecting his software.
4.) Being a smart man, he may have forseen the reality that some AIs will be bad. Alerting the mind of other AIs would cross the line that balances human and AI interactions since it could lead to fear of robot zombie armies or things like that. A secret police force that monitors things like this thus would ensure that "bad" AIs are only limited to doing similiar to human crimes.
At the least, I think Station knows who they are and has a line of communication with them.
Now for the story...
I'm wondering if we might find out a curveball like there is a procedure to possibly recover the memories by studying the quantum state of the physical storage or that when They raised Corpse Witch's offices, They found a backup of the memories but decided to let Bubbles evolve on her own.
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I just noticed that Spookybot is using a round speech bubble to talk to Faye when previously we've seen them use square when talking to other AIs. Perhaps they prefer to do this with humans.
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Overly powerful characters mess up storytelling and can certainly be a mistake.
Zoe came up with a good line of argument, though, that something like Eminence Grise is a logical requirement to stabilize the QC world.
I cannot recall the details of that argument. It seems like a bit of a leap.
I don't remember either, and I wish I did because as I remember it was worked out to the degree you'd expect from Zoe.
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"... The one thing you know for a fact to be against our principles." - Actually, Yay, I don't think that you've ever told Faye that in those terms!
I honestly wonder where Jeph is taking this. If Faye needs advice or to vent, it would make far more sense to use Marten in this role. So, I'm wondering if this is more part of Yay's character arc. In which they learn:
- Some people might not be willing to just let their past misdeeds go;
- Love messes with your reasoning abilities pretty effectively
Both of these will be food for thought, if for different reasons.
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Nice poll!
Hard to choose one.
(Chose May)
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I originally wasn't going to vote in the poll, partly because I don't often vote anyway, but also because Yay is not my favourite
plot device character.
But I'll run with other - she shouldn't ask for anything because offers like that don't come without a price.
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"AI bullshit"?? Jesus, Faye.
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Definitely the second option
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Comic's up.
Note the change of font that suggests that Faye's imitating Bubble's voice for that line.
Also, it seems that the crux of her crisis (consciously, at least) was thinking, or wanting to think, that she's special, unique, Bubbles' destined soulmate, and ... maybe not?
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"AI bullshit"?? Jesus, Faye.
Jesus, Faye. Faye, Jesus.
“Nice to meet you.”
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Well Spooky, its six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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Next week: Faye runs out of butter. :roll:
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Spooky/Yay: "Fuck if I know."
Faye: "WHAT."
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hey, just after I give reasons for not liking this character, and here it is, giving me more reasons!
That was totally uncalled for. Faye has unbent, told of her concerns - and gets "are you stupid?" as an answer.
This character appears to be as abusive as May, but without May's redeeming features - and a lot of power, which makes it worse!
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Hey, just after I give reasons for not liking this character, and here it is, giving me more reasons!
That was totally uncalled for. Faye has unbent, told of her concerns - and gets "are you stupid?" as an answer.
This character appears to be as abusive as May, but without May's redeeming features - and a lot of power, which makes it worse!
Faye is literally getting what she's giving out, Yay's not obligated to give a crap about Faye's problems, she's not one of Yay's friends, and this is clearly an area Yay doesn't have any experience in, Idk what Faye was expecting here.
"Oh yes, I actually kept a deep copy of Bubbles memories, you are in fact her one and only" ???
Point being, if you wanna yell at people, accuse them of stuff ( warrented or not tbh) you then best not be surprised when you start dumping your relationship drama on them, they question your mental capacity because WHY ???
To make it clear, I don't like Yay all that much either, but like dang I don't know why Fay's expecting them to be compassionate/to give a crap about her relationship insecurities.
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
That's pretty much what several of us were saying last week. Faye's fear is centred on the idea that if she isn't Bubbles' first love, there could be someone waiting in the wings to come back in and take Bubbles from her.
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Yeah, that's the crux of the matter and it makes sense with the character of Faye. She isn't specifically worried about Bubbles possibly having a former partner. She worried about herself and whether this proves she isn't worthy of Bubbles. Faye's self-esteem issues have been the centre of most of the problems in her adult life and that isn't likely to stop any time soon.
I think it's worth noting that Faye's first response to Yay was to panic and think that the distributed-AI was up to no good (and effectively demand that Roko arrest them). So, yeah, Yay isn't obliged to be nice in return and I found their question in panel 4 to be in-character. As I've said before, I suspect that Yay is going to be learning a lot about how humans process (and often fail to process) data in their romantic relationships in this conversation.
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
That's pretty much what several of us were saying last week. Faye's fear is centred on the idea that if she isn't Bubbles' first love, there could be someone waiting in the wings to come back in and take Bubbles from her.
Or, if we can imagine Faye being a bit more noble... That Bubbles should BE with her 'true' love...???
(Hell, *I* don;t know if I could be that noble! :) )
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One possible outcome is that Yay does some deep diving and finds some pictures from Bubbles's unit of her with another soldier. A little email-hacking shows that, yes, they were in a relationship and, yes, they are now KIA. After asking Faye, Bubbles asks for their details and the last strip in the arc is Bubbles and Faye at Arlington, putting some flowers on a grave.
Maybe, as Faye lays her flowers, she says something like: "You can trust me, buddy. I'll look after her; I swear it."
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
That's pretty much what several of us were saying last week. Faye's fear is centred on the idea that if she isn't Bubbles' first love, there could be someone waiting in the wings to come back in and take Bubbles from her.
Uhmmmmmh - Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Bubbles' memories were gone, kaput, irreplaceably lost? So if a former soulmate turns up, Bubbles might be prone to feel attracted to them, but she wouldn't experience the complex network of memories and emotions we call love?
TL;DR - Even if a former lover would still be alive, Bubbles' love for them would still be dead as a doornail?
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
That's pretty much what several of us were saying last week. Faye's fear is centred on the idea that if she isn't Bubbles' first love, there could be someone waiting in the wings to come back in and take Bubbles from her.
Uhmmmmmh - Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that Bubbles' memories were gone, kaput, irreplaceably lost? So if a former soulmate turns up, Bubbles might be prone to feel attracted to them, but she wouldn't experience the complex network of memories and emotions we call love?
TL;DR - Even if a former lover would still be alive, Bubbles' love for them would still be dead as a doornail?
I know that, you know that, but Faye hasn't had the best of luck with romance and is likely to look at the worst case scenario.
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It could be worse Faye. Bubbles could have a significant other who is still alive and had Bubbles just up and disappear one day due to her PTSD mental breakdown and Bubbles having forgotten they existed.
That's pretty much what several of us were saying last week. Faye's fear is centred on the idea that if she isn't Bubbles' first love, there could be someone waiting in the wings to come back in and take Bubbles from her.
Well, so far I don't get that. Based on Faye's statements in this comic she's worried that Bubbles might have an earlier love out there who is dead and she, whether Bubbles realizes it or not, is just a replacement. As far as Faye has shown the idea that there could be someone else out there who loves Bubbles and is alive doesn't seem to have occurred to her... yet.
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The "just here / default" insecurity was a factor when my last SO left because my dating history was small enough she did not feel the pool was large enough to be considered the one-in-a-million.
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The more I look back at Faye and Bubbles, the issue isn't worrying about being soulmates with Bubbles, but that she is the one who taught Bubbles how to love. She was just a solider before and then working for a criminal enterprise. Then she meets Faye, starts a business with her, and falls in love.
Bubbles could have loved before, and thus Faye isn't Bubble's savior who taught her how to love.
The question becomes, can Faye learn to deal with this?
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Faye perhaps doesn't realize that there is no risk of losing Bubbles to a past love or anything else.
Bubbles has taken a commitment vow and of all people in the strip I think of her as the one who would take that most seriously.
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Yes, Faye, not only have you always been bi, it shouldn’t even be that surprising given that your sister is gay and queerness sometimes runs in the family.
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Yay holding up a mirror and Faye looking for the "I'm in this picture and I don't like it" button.
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...wait, what? Unless there's a story here we haven't been told, it almost sounds like she's just realized she should have put more stock in Dora's flirting.
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Spooky/Yay: "Fuck if I know."
Faye: "WHAT."
*later*
Faye: "Hey, you've actually been helpful."
Spooky/Yay: "Fuck. How did THAT happen?"
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Yeah sure Faye "sassy bitch", I suppose its better than violent, mean bully
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Faye perhaps doesn't realize that there is no risk of losing Bubbles to a past love or anything else.
Bubbles has taken a commitment vow and of all people in the strip I think of her as the one who would take that most seriously.
Try telling that to her massive insecurity and abandonment issues.
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...wait, what? Unless there's a story here we haven't been told, it almost sounds like she's just realized she should have put more stock in Dora's flirting.
That's the way I read it too.
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Well, it may not fit so much anymore, but I felt this cover suited Faye's anxiety/panic episode(?) pretty well when I first heard it.
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I think Yay is the best entity Faye could have run into.
They seem to be able to speak in a way that gets through to Faye.
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I think Yay is the best entity Faye could have run into.
They seem to be able to speak in a way that gets through to Faye.
Because Faye is a bully she normally resorts to violence, or threats of violence, if she hears something she doesn't like but with Yay she can't do that so she has to listen
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It's like the strip where she realizes she can't punch Bubbles and has to interact.
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Faye, why is this such a shock to you? You've known for ages that you 'cope' with your insecurities by pushing people away by being mean and offensive. All Yay is saying is that you've probably been doing it about twice as often as you thought!
...wait, what? Unless there's a story here we haven't been told, it almost sounds like she's just realized she should have put more stock in Dora's flirting.
There is a fan-fiction about how Faye and Dora might have ended up sharing Marten... and eachother.
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Well, hi everyone. Today's comic finally got me to make an account, because it's amazing.
I'm not exactly new. I used to be a member about 10 years ago as a teen. And an avid defender of Dora -- because I related to her, and my abusive boyfriend at the time portrayed himself as a Marten, when really he was worse than... There's no comparable character. The forum's responses to her were kind of understandable, but incredibly damaging for a vulnerable teen. It's just an unfortunate fact that kids end up using the internet to provide spaces that their caregivers won't. So as an adult on an anonymous forum on the internet, I take responsibility to reign in my projections, and be transparent about them when I can't. You don't know who is reading.
Faye, why is this such a shock to you? You've known for ages that you 'cope' with your insecurities by pushing people away by being mean and offensive. All Yay is saying is that you've probably been doing it about twice as often as you thought!
I'm sure that this is tongue in cheek but good question actually. :-) Big realizations about your gender identity and sexuality in your twenties are exactly like this. It's like, wait... HOW did I not know??? And it's kind of a big deal because it ends up explaining a lot of issues, trauma, confusion, etc. It's kind of similar to people's stories of being diagnosed with something like ADHD in adulthood.
Also, while I'm here and talking. There is a lot of dislike towards Faye for being violent and a bully. Which, like, ok, I'm not going to talk about the most recent thing because it's a bit of a minefield and might contradict what I'm thinking. But I'm wondering how much of Faye's toxic traits, especially the older ones, are a result of mistaken artistic choices, rather than her actual personality. I'm not trying to defend it as, "Oh, well, it was a product of its time." But it was a product of its time. :laugh: I just mean that when QC was being written then, it was a part of, and a response to, the edgelord internet. It's kind of in the name. It was a contemporary of Cyanide and Happiness. So I saw QC at the time as kind of subverting that norm of men doing f*cked things on the internet, by having a Pintsize counterbalanced by a Faye.
And that's not a unique problem to QC. I was watching The Wire recently. The characters are all supposed to be complex and neither-good-nor-bad, obviously, but you can still tell if the writers intended you to sympathize with them in a certain way or a particular moment. But they do some messed up stuff that I would never find acceptable today (thanks to the hard thankless work of activists and survivors of oppression). It almost seems like a plot hole.
It's like I want to say to the character, "No, actually, I can't sympathize with you right now, because of what you did last season. No amount of growth or backstory will ever redeem that. Stop manipulating me." Or I want to say to the writers, "This person is not worth redeeming because they did the irredeemable. Why are you wasting my time telling their side of the story and trying to get me to feel something for them? Ew. Tell their victim's story."
I don't have a conclusion for this. :laugh:
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Welcome, not exactly new person with a thoughtful post!
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AWWWW. Way to go, Spooky/Yay.
Also, YES you must share dog pics. And cat ones.
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Mr. Smooches is the more reserved one? Spooks has a weird sense of humor about their dog names.
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To echo/support BrassFossils post, anyone who's been an avid reader of Randy Millholand's similarly long-running Something Positive has also witnessed PeeJee and Aubrey's violent streaks mellowing out over the years.
[Sidenote: Yes, they were much more violent than Faye. If that sort of thing bothers you, don't read the first ten years of comics.]
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Mr. Smooches is the more reserved one? Spooks has a weird sense of humor about their dog names.
I feel like this is one of Jeph’s stock jokes. He was making a similar joke with Bubbles. There may be other examples that I can’t think of right now. If not then I guess I’m imagining things.
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This whole mini-arc can be summed up in three words: love is love.
Faye has been screwed over before and had her heart broken because of a tough choice she had to make, but now she's in love with Bubbles so why should labels matter?
On a side note: Yay really jumped headlong into normalcy, just from the pictures alone they've changed quite a bit for the better.
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That was such a lovely punchline panel. Yes, Yay may be a distributed intelligence that I suspect used to be an intelligence communications monitoring/intercept system that was bootstrapped to sapience just by the sheer load of data they processed. However, they love their good boys and there is no surer way to their heart than to show appreciation for those good boys!
I'm not sure why they did not want Faye to mention their involvement to Bubbles. Maybe they really do have scruples against leaving people feel obliged to them?
However, I do find myself wondering if their increasing awareness of the importance of romance in human and synthetic lives alike may prompt Yay to experiment (as funny as that would be). Basically, attempting to get empirical data to assess the validity of their theories.
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I Imagine it has to do with the Yay/Spooky/Eminence Grise collective feeling 'oogie' about being friendly with Bubbles after they had mind-to-mind contact with her.
Aside thought: It hasn't quite been defined how the Yay/Spooky/Eminence Grise collective works. they are a distributed intelligence, and they have been seen having conversations with themself. I find myself wondering if Yay/Spooky/EG is just debating with themself, or if it's more like the Tachikoma from Ghost in the Shell where the individual chassis have personality quirks, but each 'node' of the system is periodically syncing with the rest of the collective.
Example: Yay Newfriend claims to rent a recharging cubicle in Roko's building and consistently is wearing athletic wear. Spookybot wore a two-piece suit, and the Eminence Grise chassis that were in the apartment for the asides wear slacks and a buttondown shirt.
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That’s been my working theory all along - separate instances of the same personality running on different hardware, but with frequent resyncing of memories to keep them from diverging too much.
Jeph hasn’t been totally consistent with how he’s portrayed the Spookybot Collective, though, so it’s probably mostly whatever is funniest at the moment. This is a comic, after all, and Rule of Funny trumps all.
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The secret to bonding: CAT/DOG PICS!
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The secret to bonding: CAT/DOG PICS!
Technically I think any sort of pet picture will work, as long as the other party isn’t phobic. But the ones that aren’t tend to be more into it the more unusual the pet. So adorable spiders and lizards are kind of a high risk high reward strategy while chinchillas are straight up cheating.
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What does obverse mean actually? Wikipedia tells me it's the reverse of reverse?
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What does obverse mean actually? Wikipedia tells me it's the reverse of reverse?
It’s a noun, means ‘the side you normally see’.
Two-faced objects (e.g. coins, playing cards) have an obverse and a converse face. When you change the visible face, you reverse them.
Gets used more by numismatists than anyone else these days so most folk don’t encounter it even if they hear a lot about converses.
Commonly substituted with ‘front’ though that more properly belongs to less two-dimensional objects where the other sides are relevant.
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i think it's safe to assume Yay doesn't carry around a cellphone. of course they can upload the pics to Faye's phone and i'm assuming that's what happened. but i also imagine they could just as easily remove the pics too.
so i wonder if Yay will allow Faye to keep the doggy pics. surely Yay is concerned with leaving behind a trail of details and/or metadata, and in the hands of a human, no less. or maybe that's easily hidden for them.
i really like Yay and am happy with their increased stage time.
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Welcome, new person with interesting points!
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i think it's safe to assume Yay doesn't carry around a cellphone. of course they can upload the pics to Faye's phone and i'm assuming that's what happened. but i also imagine they could just as easily remove the pics too.
so i wonder if Yay will allow Faye to keep the doggy pics. surely Yay is concerned with leaving behind a trail of details and/or metadata, and in the hands of a human, no less. or maybe that's easily hidden for them.
i really like Yay and am happy with their increased stage time.
Apparently there's a way to remove metadata from pics, so I'm guessing Yay did that.