Considering their friends, I'm kinda dubious on them being able to organize a party.
Well, I could see Hanners doing it....
Final total will be $631.25. You heard it here first.
As usual, I voted "Other":
We never find out. The only indication we ever get is the reaction from May when she sees the amount donated.
Take your pick on her expression: disbelief (if it's a lot), sardonic or sarcastic (if its not much), a lot of conflicting emotions (when she realizes how much other people think of her), etc.
Reminds me in economics class we played this game that everyone chooses a number between 0 and 100 and whoever got closest to 2/3 the average wins a chocolate bar. There's always an idiot who'll choose 100 or something way too big, and then there are the geniuses that choose 0. Some people hear "average" and choose the straight average, forgetting the part about 2/3. Most people outsmart the straight averagers by thinking one step ahead, choosing 33 (50 2/3). The point of the game is that, in the real world, thinking more than 2 steps ahead is dangerous. The second time we played, the winners chose 15. Legend has it one class all chose 0 and the students did a sit-in until the professor gave them their chocolate. Since then, whenever a winner complaints his chocolate expired, the professor retorts "caveat lusor".Final total will be $631.25. You heard it here first.
I am voting that a rando will up it to $666 in name of getting a chuckle, it might end over that because another rando had the same idea at the same time.
Reminds me in economics class we played this game that everyone chooses a number between 0 and 100 and whoever got closest to 2/3 the average wins a chocolate bar. There's always an idiot who'll choose 100 or something way too big, and then there are the geniuses that choose 0. Some people hear "average" and choose the straight average, forgetting the part about 2/3. Most people outsmart the straight averagers by thinking one step ahead, choosing 33 (50 2/3). The point of the game is that, in the real world, thinking more than 2 steps ahead is dangerous. The second time we played, the winners chose 15. Legend has it one class all chose 0 and the students did a sit-in until the professor gave them their chocolate. Since then, whenever a winner complaints his chocolate expired, the professor retorts "caveat lusor".Final total will be $631.25. You heard it here first.
I am voting that a rando will up it to $666 in name of getting a chuckle, it might end over that because another rando had the same idea at the same time.
I like this strip, it's altruism in action. Especially Dora and Tai, rearranging their bachelorette party so they can free up some funds for May. (Side note: since when do people organize their own bachelor/bachelorette parties? Isn't that supposed to be thrown for you?)
Honestly for Jeph's post I'd say Sven looks a lot more like Angus than Marten. Just have Sven start wearing his glasses again and Sven would like exactly like Angus.
Guess Faye has a type.
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Oh, for some reason, I think that Faye is already designing in her had a wrestling costume for Bubbles. Perhaps she can be El Gran Queso?
I like this strip, it's altruism in action. Especially Dora and Tai, rearranging their bachelorette party so they can free up some funds for May. (Side note: since when do people organize their own bachelor/bachelorette parties? Isn't that supposed to be thrown for you?)
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Oh, for some reason, I think that Faye is already designing in her had a wrestling costume for Bubbles. Perhaps she can be El Gran Queso.
The Great Cheese?
I dunno about the US/Canada, but in my family/friends environment it has become increasingly common for the bride and groom to have considerable input when it comes to their bachelor/bachelorette parties, especially when it comes to wishes like keeping it local, not doing certain things they're just not comfortable with, and/or having it on the same night as their s.o.
Man I was so anxious when May agreed to crowdfund. I relate a lot to her and it was gut wrenching to see her have to accept something she so clearly felt uncomfortable with. I come from a very "suck it up, buttercup" family where even things like financial ruin and homelessness are met with things like "What are you going to do to fix that for yourself? I don't want to hear/don't talk to me about your problems unless you're doing something about them."
Man I was so anxious when May agreed to crowdfund. I relate a lot to her and it was gut wrenching to see her have to accept something she so clearly felt uncomfortable with. I come from a very "suck it up, buttercup" family where even things like financial ruin and homelessness are met with things like "What are you going to do to fix that for yourself? I don't want to hear/don't talk to me about your problems unless you're doing something about them." (With the strongly established boundary that you don't ask for handouts from others to fix your own mess, because everyone has problems and no one has room for yours too.) I'm not around my family anymore, but man has that caused a lot of challenges in adulthood, especially in the workplace. Learning not only to ask for help, but also how and when is still so friggin rocky for me. I never want to overstep and risk permanent damage to my relationships, platonic or professional or otherwise, but I have virtually 0 scale for what that even looks like. Even accepting offered help is hard for me, because I think I always expect there to be strings attached, or for peoples opinions of me to drop if I were to actually accept. Anxiety incarnate. So seeing May kind of run out of options hit so close to home and that was hard to read.I'm very against asking for help---I take it quickly, easily, preferably with no take backs when it's offered (the way I see it, if they didn't really want to help, they shouldn't make the mistake of offering; if they didn't explicitly specify beforehand what exactly strings are attached, then there's no reason they should expect me to accept any strings that they think were attached.)---but sometimes, even though it might look like asking for help, it's really not. For example, at work, if I don't know how to do something, it's imperative I don't try to do it myself, because, in my experience talking to customer service, many problems are caused by a person inability to do his job fulfilling the task, i.e. reading through the company's documentation to figure out how to do it himself or working with someone who knows how to do it. Of course, if it's explicitly part of my job description, then obviously I have to do it, and not rely on someone else, but there are still edge cases that might need to be discussed with colleagues.
Obviously this case is fiction, but I never really thought of the two worlds being the same as even possible. People care about pinnacles to their community, but nobody cares about people like me and May, and that was just my underlying assumption that I didn't even realize I had. Today's strip in particular has given me a lot to process and think about.How realistic/practical would it be for people to pitch in for the "nobodies"? I bet there's a pretty steep triage, where if your problems aren't severe enough, you'll be classed as not needing immediate attention, and subsequently never get any attention.
How realistic/practical would it be for people to pitch in for the "nobodies"? I bet there's a pretty steep triage, where if your problems aren't severe enough, you'll be classed as not needing immediate attention, and subsequently never get any attention.
QuoteHow realistic/practical would it be for people to pitch in for the "nobodies"? I bet there's a pretty steep triage, where if your problems aren't severe enough, you'll be classed as not needing immediate attention, and subsequently never get any attention.
I feel like it could be feasible on the local community level, but you need local community involvement. Without some sort of community involvement most broad sweeping efforts are doomed to fall flat, because it takes more than just cash to help people in meaningful ways. They need to know there's a place for them, and that there's at least some level of investment in their success, and also them as individual persons.
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I love what you said about asking for help in the work place. I still need to remember to catch myself, but when I do I try to make a point of remembering that and talking it through in my head. I'm hired to do a job, and if I need an additional piece of information to do it well, it's quicker and potentially much less damaging to ask someone who would know than it would be for me to try and scour the internet or something to cook up my own solution. Not everything is that cut and dry obviously, but baggage isn't something you just unpack once and call good. It's a process. Sometimes it takes a rando page from a webcomic to resume forward progress on an otherwise forgotten (but still present) cognitive distortion.
I think that May is coming up for a serious journey of self-discovery. Why is it that everyone values her far more than she thought? Why would they do this for her? Who is she that they would do this for her? I've posted this before but I'm expecting her to repeat that lovely phrase: "I want to cry but I don't have any tear-ducts!" Possibly followed by Momo offering her the squirt bottle of solution that she uses to allow herself to simulate crying.
Because in this comic you can be as unpleasant as you like to people and instead of people not wanting to have anything to do with you (see Faye) as they would normally they seem to go out of their way to want to befriend unpleasant people
Or not
People who have been hurt (Faye via trauma and May via poor choices/jail) can develop hard outsides that hide a soft inside. Which Faye had demonstrated more than once. Admittedly May less so... but I like scrapy types anyway.
Honestly for Jeph's post I'd say Sven looks a lot more like Angus than Marten. Just have Sven start wearing his glasses again and Sven would like exactly like Angus.Angus is a bit stockier. So not quite.
Guess Faye has a type.
QuotePeople who have been hurt (Faye via trauma and May via poor choices/jail) can develop hard outsides that hide a soft inside. Which Faye had demonstrated more than once. Admittedly May less so... but I like scrapy types anyway.
Not saying I don't understand why Faye acts the way she does (though probably a small part of her actually enjoys it) but more how the other main characters in this strip just accept whatever abuse is given to them and are ok with it
Not saying I don't understand why Faye acts the way she does (though probably a small part of her actually enjoys it) but more how the other main characters in this strip just accept whatever abuse is given to them and are ok with it
Not saying I don't understand why Faye acts the way she does (though probably a small part of her actually enjoys it) but more how the other main characters in this strip just accept whatever abuse is given to them and are ok with it
Do they, though? I can remember plenty of instances where characters have acted like jerks and were called out on it. While it does seem that many of the QC denizens are quite understanding of certain people's prickly demeanors, they aren't doormats either. (Except for in the beginning, when Marten was waaaay to accepting of Faye's punches).
Do they, though? I can remember plenty of instances where characters have acted like jerks and were called out on it. While it does seem that many of the QC denizens are quite understanding of certain people's prickly demeanors, they aren't doormats either. (Except for in the beginning, when Marten was waaaay to accepting of Faye's punches).
I didn't recognize Marigold at first.
Well lets face it Marten is the comics punching bag. Remember Bubbles first interactions with Marten as an example but one really uncomfortable strip was way back when Marten was seeing someone (can't remember her name) and then she was going to leave and she basically ghosted him then just before she was due to leave she contacts him and he (not unreasonably) wants nothing to do with her so Faye smacks him upside the head and essentially gives him the message that no matter what a girl does to him its ok and that he should always forgive them though to be fair it was a time ago so I may not be remembering it correctly but it always struck me as a really bad message, that basically Marten is not allowed to be angry especially with a girl
I assume you mean this strip (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2101)? I never interpreted that as 'Marten is not allowed to be angry', but more as 'you cannot complain that life is passing you by when you do not make an effort to make things happen'.
Let's agree to disagree on that one 😊
I mean, I agree with Chris, there's been a lot of "Martin is never allowed to be mad at women" storylines over the years...
I mean, I agree with Chris, there's been a lot of "Martin is never allowed to be mad at women" storylines over the years...
Meh, as somebody who identifies quite a bit with Marten's personality
Meh
Did we read the same strip? I remember Padma telling Marten she was leaving in a couple of weeks, and his response was to ghost HER.QuoteI assume you mean this strip (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2101)? I never interpreted that as 'Marten is not allowed to be angry', but more as 'you cannot complain that life is passing you by when you do not make an effort to make things happen'.
(Thanks for that)
In this instance Marten was justified in being angry in that he did everything right and he still got shafted. He left messages for her, didn't stalk her or make it weird and got nothing and then when she decided she wanted to see him the night before she left Marten did the right thing by not allowing himself to get even more hurt then he already was.
Fayes response to all this is to call him an asshole. Yeah good one Faye, Padma ghosts him and then you rip on him as well but its ok because shes telling him what he needs to hear...no what he needed was some support, someone to tell him yeah she was a b**ch and its not your fault but instead because a girl wanted to see him Marten should have dropped everything and gone rushing over
No, this was a bad storyline with bad messaging
Did we read the same strip? I remember Padma telling Marten she was leaving in a couple of weeks, and his response was to ghost HER.
The wonderful thing about WebMarvel is that you can make web pages without knowing HTML.
The horrid thing about WebMarvel is that people are making web pages without knowing HTML.
Yes, a macaque can make web pages. And Marigold knows that she could have done better, even as a beginner.
Isn't it interesting how when it comes to learning talents (in QC if not necessarily real life), humans can outperform AIs? Beeps had the entire internet at her fingertips and was working with Roko, but Marigold still thinks she could have done better.
Then again, Beeps coded the whole thing in, like, a day, so that's impressive in and of itself.
Did we read the same strip? I remember Padma telling Marten she was leaving in a couple of weeks, and his response was to ghost HER.
When you are angry at your reading, but find that others don't share your reading of the text, it's time to examine your contribution to your own reading.
In other words, they acted like humans with very human emotions and flaws. That’s a hanging offense in these parts, mister.
QuoteIn other words, they acted like humans with very human emotions and flaws. That’s a hanging offense in these parts, mister.My problem wasn't with Padma or Marten but how Faye treated Marten after, she was verbally abusive but its ok because its Marten
As far as I’m concerned, neither Marten nor Padma handled that situation very well.
My problem wasn't with Padma or Marten but how Faye treated Marten after, she was verbally abusive but its ok because its Marten
Alright I've read a bit of this thread now, and I'm just gonna wait over here for when y'all are finally ready for the conversation about how and why the abuses against Pintsize are okay, i.e. how and where you draw the lines of 'allowable' transgressions.
i'ma be waiting a long time ;)
New comic!
Oh, May. I hope you just went in for an awkward hug.
New comic!
Oh, May. I hope you just went in for an awkward hug.
like how Bubbles and Marten got acquainted in 3058 and compare that to how she interacts with everyone else (also 3338)
I could've sworn that Marigold used her boobs as a narcotic before?4107 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4107)?
I could've sworn that Marigold used her boobs as a narcotic before?4107 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4107)?
Yay for hugs and generosity! I'm hoping that May gets enough to buy that fighter jet chassis she originally went to AI jail for.
I could've sworn that Marigold used her boobs as a narcotic before?4107 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4107)?
what is perceived as slapstick and what is perceived as abuse is definitely in the eye of the observer.Slapstick is
In Bubbles' defense, "hup ermf" is a terrible opening line.like how Bubbles and Marten got acquainted in 3058 and compare that to how she interacts with everyone else (also 3338)you mean like in 3064 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3064) and 3065 (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3065)?
I'm bowing out of the conversation now, since the comics are open to personal interpretation, and I don't want it to evolve into "my opinion is correct, and yours is wrong!" That's how (flame)wars get started.Your opinion about there being only one possible right opinion is wrong. Good heated arguments breed mutual understanding.
Faye confronted him with the reality of how he was acting out, and Marten was in fact mature enough, in spite of being angry, to recognise the truth of what Faye was saying to him.Faye told Marten that Marten should have accepted Padma's invitation, despite Padma pushing Marten away. I opine that Marten's mistake was not telling Padma why Marten would rather not meet with Padma.
That isn't Marten's fault for getting angry, it's Dora's for not knowing how to say sorry and de-escalate.Dora invaded Marten's privacy. That's a contemptible act. An act that Marten could have precluded by encrypting his data. Was Marten's anger appropriate?
She was obviously deeply unhappy in that situation, there's not much more to say about that. It had nothing to do with Marten. And in 3338, he was just being timid (just as Claire says in panel one).
Dora invaded Marten's privacy. That's a contemptible act. An act that Marten could have precluded by encrypting his data. Was Marten's anger appropriate?
I think it was. Marten actually addresses that in panel three of this comic (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796). It's not about the actual subject of the argument, it's about the fact that Dora breached his trust. He shouldn't have had to encrypt anything, because he told Dora not to look, but she did anyway, and that's what led to the breakup.
QuoteShe was obviously deeply unhappy in that situation, there's not much more to say about that. It had nothing to do with Marten. And in 3338, he was just being timid (just as Claire says in panel one).
No I'm talking first meeting. look at panels 5 & 6 in 3058 and do you really think its Martens fault for being "timid" in 3338
Ok try this then, change Martens gender to female and change Faye, Bubble, Tai and Dora to male then look at their interactions again and tell me its all ok
I could've sworn that Marigold used her boobs as a narcotic before?
New comic!
Oh, May. I hope you just went in for an awkward hug.
I might believe that with any other character (except Pintsize, of course), but coming from May, I'm pretty sure it was intentional.
Alright I've read a bit of this thread now, and I'm just gonna wait over here for when y'all are finally ready for the conversation about how and why the abuses against Pintsize are okay, i.e. how and where you draw the lines of 'allowable' transgressions.
i'ma be waiting a long time ;)
QuoteShe was obviously deeply unhappy in that situation, there's not much more to say about that. It had nothing to do with Marten. And in 3338, he was just being timid (just as Claire says in panel one).
No I'm talking first meeting. look at panels 5 & 6 in 3058 and do you really think its Martens fault for being "timid" in 3338
Ok try this then, change Martens gender to female and change Faye, Bubble, Tai and Dora to male then look at their interactions again and tell me its all ok
Boobs are the bestnarcotic.
I'm familiar with that page (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34625.msg1446418.html#msg1446418)---it doesn't address the appropriateness of Marten's anger. Marten having encrypted his data would not have precluded Dora's attempt to invade Marten's privacy, but that's as contemptible. The fact that an unauthorized person can look at the data if it's not encrypted is the exact reason to encrypt it. How much was his anger enhanced by the Dora having some of his private data? But that question won't get us closer to knowing whether Marten's anger was appropriate. Was there a response that could get to the same result, without the unnecessary pathos? If so, Marten has anger management problems. Sure, his anger management problems are pretty slight---he's quite a chill dude---but this riled him up.Was Marten's anger appropriate?I think it was. Marten actually addresses that in panel three of this comic (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796). He shouldn't have had to encrypt anything, because he told Dora not to look, but she did anyway, and that's what led to the breakup.
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Your opinion about there being only one possible right opinion is wrong. Good heated arguments breed mutual understanding.
Hi ho.
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But, in his place, I'd rather not get angry; instead, simply ending the relationship. (I mean entirely. Dora would become no more than a person behind the counter of a café I go to sometimes.)
I'm familiar with that page (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34625.msg1446418.html#msg1446418)---it doesn't address the appropriateness of Marten's anger. Marten having encrypted his data would not have precluded Dora's attempt to invade Marten's privacy, but that's as contemptible. The fact that an unauthorized person can look at the data if it's not encrypted is the exact reason to encrypt it. How much was his anger enhanced by the Dora having some of his private data? But that question won't get us closer to knowing whether Marten's anger was appropriate. Was there a response that could get to the same result, without the unnecessary pathos? If so, Marten has anger management problems. Sure, his anger management problems are pretty slight---he's quite a chill dude---but this riled him up.Was Marten's anger appropriate?I think it was. Marten actually addresses that in panel three of this comic (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796). He shouldn't have had to encrypt anything, because he told Dora not to look, but she did anyway, and that's what led to the breakup.
In his place, I might get angry, too. That emotion might come up. But, in his place, I'd rather not get angry; instead, simply ending the relationship. (I mean entirely. Dora would become no more than a person behind the counter of a café I go to sometimes.)
In his place, I might get angry, too. That emotion might come up. But, in his place, I'd rather not get angry; instead, simply ending the relationship. (I mean entirely. Dora would become no more than a person behind the counter of a café I go to sometimes.)
It is easy, right or wrong, to read her communication choices as reflecting contempt for those around her.
The Gottman research on relationships found contempt to be toxic and death to relationships.
Anyone who has lived with someone contemptuous is going to react to May. Does the name "Pavlov" ring a bell?
I'm familiar with that page (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,34625.msg1446418.html#msg1446418)---it doesn't address the appropriateness of Marten's anger. Marten having encrypted his data would not have precluded Dora's attempt to invade Marten's privacy, but that's as contemptible. The fact that an unauthorized person can look at the data if it's not encrypted is the exact reason to encrypt it. How much was his anger enhanced by the Dora having some of his private data? But that question won't get us closer to knowing whether Marten's anger was appropriate. Was there a response that could get to the same result, without the unnecessary pathos? If so, Marten has anger management problems. Sure, his anger management problems are pretty slight---he's quite a chill dude---but this riled him up.Was Marten's anger appropriate?I think it was. Marten actually addresses that in panel three of this comic (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1796). He shouldn't have had to encrypt anything, because he told Dora not to look, but she did anyway, and that's what led to the breakup.
In his place, I might get angry, too. That emotion might come up. But, in his place, I'd rather not get angry; instead, simply ending the relationship. (I mean entirely. Dora would become no more than a person behind the counter of a café I go to sometimes.)
I can totally identify with May's reaction to significant, concrete and unexpected acts of kindness.
I'm the same way. And I've had many of them, so many you think I'd get used to them.
Nope. Still collapse into a blubbering mess.
Oh May.
OF COURSE there are other people that need the money. OF COURSE there are other people that are more deserving. That doesn't automatically make you unworthy, though!
I second the opinions above: May needs a therapist, pronto.
Sometimes I wonder how many of the fans of this comic are the working poor.
Maybe as someone who's spent most of her life in, among, and as one, communication styles like May strike me as a lot less 'crass', which sometimes seems to be the cardinal sin of whether someone is allowable to this crowd, see Pintsize, Yelling Bird, May, etc. Since violence and repression doesn't seem to bug the majority of the fans the majority of the time over the years, see Faye, Emily, Bubbles, Momo, Marten, so on and so forth.
disclaimer: this is something i've mostly kept to myself for years now, though a couple others around here know I've mused about it. This thread isn't all to blame for any means, of me bringing it up. Just.... thinking out loud, of a sorts.
Nice to see Momo hasn't lost her touch. I was trying to find the first time she used her "shock and awe" abilities, when she fried Marigold's computer, but my archive-fu is rusty.
That last panel needs a electrical sound effect and an orchestral score.[/spoiler](click to show/hide)
And have you ever known the terrors of sudden hope?
I do notice a lot of righteous indignation hurled at characters for not making the perfect and most appropriate response to stressful situations. As if everyone should be expected to perfectly collected and rational at all times. As if real people aren't a hot mess of emotions and irrationality.
As someone who kinda shares May's sense of humour and colourful verbiage and is closely associated with a lot of other people who do as well, I don't understand the magnitude of the hate she gets from certain members of the audience.
The penal system was never designed to be reformative, it has always been purely punitive in its intent.For the states that is very true and you can add "profit centre" to the list of things it is designed to be.
But last time we saw electro-scary Momo, she was in her chibi chassis. With eels. Doubt that's a standard feature.
We all need a best friend like Momo sometimes!
I suspect that, if May is still going to the therapy sessions, at the next one, she's going to say something like: "This week, I learned that I have good friends who will sacrifice to help me. That frightens me because I don't know why they'd do that and I'm scared that I'll let them down!" Then, after some evasion, she'll list all the ways her friends annoy her, how much she treasures this and how much she loves them. Basically why, in the end, she'd prefer to fight to keep them, no matter how hard it is.
That's where her arc needs to go: To realise that she's loved and is allowed to love in return. Also to realise one or both parties will be annoying or will screw up on occasion. The determination of whether the friendship is strong will be if both parties are determined to rebuild afterwards.
I also wonder what a word association exercise might reveal!
Oh, wait - this is the Breakup Thread argument all over again, isn't it?
Hmm, considering the state of May's chassis, I'm not sure Momo's reaction is exactly safe...
That is understandable, but I do wonder just how much May actually interacted with corrections officers during her time in robot jail. Because my vague impression/recollection was that she was essentially sitting on a server (no chassis) and was essentially isolated. But I could be wrong about that.
I'm sure all the incredibly negative effects solitary isolation has on the human psyche has already been talked about at length and in detail over in the DISCUSS forums. So I won't mention them here.That is understandable, but I do wonder just how much May actually interacted with corrections officers during her time in robot jail. Because my vague impression/recollection was that she was essentially sitting on a server (no chassis) and was essentially isolated. But I could be wrong about that.
That sounds fantastic
That might be the most outwardly kind and honest reaction we've seen from May. Is that a permanent change to her personality, do you think, or will she go back to being prickly after she gets the new body?It will likely be a process. Learning to accept one's own self worth can be very difficult for some folks. Especially with certain sets of circumstances.
(I know lots of people were frustrated with the hate May was getting, so I just want to clarify there's no shame in that. She can act however she wants to/is compelled to.)
My favoured idea is for May's chassis to go into an uncontrolled downward spiral that forces Faye and Bubbles to shut her down before the chassis failures imperil the stability of her AI drive.. Because of that (and the fact that, whilst there is money, there isn't enough for a 'buyer's choice' scenario) means that May doesn't fully know what her new body looks like until she wakes up in it. That way, Jeph can keep it as a surprise from us too.
I'd like it if May's chassis is one of the few of that model in anything resembling its original construction state. This is only because it's been left unserviced or inadequately serviced for so long and it thus has most of its original components still. When word gets out just what this chassis is, a collector (either institutional or private) comes forward and asks to purchase the chassis once she's done with it. This adds even more money to the pot. However, May notes that she is far more touched by the irony that the 'junker' that had been virtually her second prison is actually a valuable antique!A collectable antique is a '54 Corvette, not a '78 Chevette, and May's chassis is the Chevette. In fact, in the profile comic that Jeph made about May, it refers to the name of her chassis as ReformChassis, which suggests it was originally designed to be used for former prisoners.
She adds that she will never go to the museum to see it. "A bit too weird to see my own naked, mounted corpse propped up in a display case for the education and edification of generations to come!"
I dunno, they have Yugos and Trabants in museums. :-DDo the plaques read: "This is how to NOT make a car."
I dunno, they have Yugos and Trabants in museums. :-DWell, yeah. They're rare, because the factory was so inefficient they only made a dozen of them to begin with. :-D
I'm sure all the incredibly negative effects solitary isolation has on the human psyche has already been talked about at length and in detail over in the DISCUSS forums. So I won't mention them here.
Chris, may I post a copy of that in the criminal justice reform thread in DISCUSS?
It isn't even about wanting May to be happy at this point. It's more about wanting May to maintain corporeality. She's held together with spit and prayers and the spit is running out....and the prayers are every bit as effective as prayers always are.
1) Plenty of E.R. and oncologists with disagree with you.It isn't even about wanting May to be happy at this point. It's more about wanting May to maintain corporeality. She's held together with spit and prayers and the spit is running out....and the prayers are every bit as effective as prayers always are.
1) Plenty of E.R. and oncologists with disagree with you.It isn't even about wanting May to be happy at this point. It's more about wanting May to maintain corporeality. She's held together with spit and prayers and the spit is running out....and the prayers are every bit as effective as prayers always are.
2) Aren't we meant to try to be more respectful of others' beliefs?
[Provided it isn't something horrible.]
*snorts*
Nice to see Momo hasn't lost her touch. I was trying to find the first time she used her "shock and awe" abilities, when she fried Marigold's computer, but my archive-fu is rusty.The time she fried Marigold's computer in 1474 wasn't the first time we've seen it. There was this (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1460) a little earlier, and it was referred to here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1412) though not actually seen.
My father said, wisely I think, that it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist.
Are you suggesting that a person owning a plot of what would otherwise be "wild nature", but doesn't do anything one way or another---so it's staying as "wild nature"---should be a criminal?My father said, wisely I think, that it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist.
Not really. Just look at the world. Either there is no $DEITY, or it is clearly malevolent or, at the very least, uncaring in a manner that would be criminal if applied to a person.
Weirdly enough, Furturama kind of addressed that, Hedgie.Wait, is there a furry Futurama? :psyduck:
I'm still having trouble seeing a clear difference between atheism and antitheism. The roots make sense, and I can see how the prefixes can apply to other phrases, but if you don't believe in a deity, isn't that just a rewording of believing in no deity?
Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me; I often have trouble putting what I think into words. Let me know if you need me to rephrase it.
The episode Godfellas.Weirdly enough, Furturama kind of addressed that, Hedgie.Wait, is there a furry Futurama? :psyduck:
I'm still having trouble seeing a clear difference between atheism and antitheism. The roots make sense, and I can see how the prefixes can apply to other phrases, but if you don't believe in a deity, isn't that just a rewording of believing in no deity?
Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me; I often have trouble putting what I think into words. Let me know if you need me to rephrase it.
"People who don't believe in a deity" is a big group that includes people who believe in no deity, people who believe that you can't know if there is a deity, people who aren't really sure whether there is a deity, people who haven't considered whether there is a deity, people who have never heard of the concept of a deity...
Maybe the antheism is more like the militant, proselytising atheism?
As for me personally, I'm happy to let everyone believe what they want - or not - as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
I wonder how many of them came to that conclusion via a series of bad experiences or a few particularly bad experiences with religious (or self-professed) religious types?Maybe the antheism is more like the militant, proselytising atheism?
As for me personally, I'm happy to let everyone believe what they want - or not - as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
I think that the militant, proselytising antitheist is a subset of antitheist. Also, I think that, in general, the reason that they are militant and proselytising is that they believe that religion does, in fact, do harm.
By all means. I didn't particularly want to follow that train of thought in this thread to begin with, but apparently my request to avoid doing so was risible.Completely fair.
I may or may not participate. I usually keep my feeling about religion to myself, for reasons that will occur to you.