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Title: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Sep 2020, 11:01
Okay, so a simple poll for this week: Who is your current favourite focus characters?

I've kept the options to the characters who are the primary focus right now. So, characters like Hannelore, Dora, Marten and Claire don't appear as they've moved to secondary or even background characters right now. Notice that Faye appears with Bubbles because the two aren't likely to appear separately anymore.

How did I vote? In no particular order:
Don't forget that you have three votes to cast!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Sep 2020, 15:59
Elliot: Because I want him to find love, dang it!
Renee: Her character is getting fleshed out more, and I want to see where she is going
Yay: I get the feeling that they will be getting more prominent soon - not sure why
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: beeawwb on 13 Sep 2020, 18:09
Lemon to the R E S C U E
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Sep 2020, 18:20
Hi again Lemon.

Poor Roko, she does need therapy, and lots of it.

Side note: the new chassis has mellowed May out already. Volunteering to help out Beeps and May, acknowledging others as friends... Let's see if this continues once her body loses that 'new chassis' smell.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Somebody on 13 Sep 2020, 18:20
Well, at least Roko's holding it together a bit better this time. No attempted severing of her face yet.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Sep 2020, 18:30
Beeps may be a poor boss but it turns out she’s a good friend.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 13 Sep 2020, 18:47
Lemon to the R E S C U E

Spaced out like that, I imagine it printed on a yellow arrow pointing to a button or handle.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Sep 2020, 18:54
Poor Roko. Here's hoping Lemon can help a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Cheetaur on 13 Sep 2020, 19:00
Poor Roko, I think she might need another body, this one doesn't seem to fit her.....sigh
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Sep 2020, 19:06
Yay: I get the feeling that she will be getting more prominent soon - not sure why
They, not "she".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Sep 2020, 19:30
Good catch, thank you. I have fixed my post :)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 13 Sep 2020, 19:48
I voted for:

Clinton - I identify with him in pretty much every way you can think of.
Elliot - He's a really nice guy to pretty much everyone; he deserves to be happy.
Yay - I want to know more about how a superintelligent AI with ultrapowerful sensory capacities interacts with the human world. Also, backstory? romantic interests? Overall, they're just a really interesting character (and I love the fashion sense).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Rincewind on 13 Sep 2020, 20:48
I sort of like the faint double-image/out of focus effect Jeph is using to show the massive stress that Roko is feeling. It's a little hard to say "like" for something that shows the pain a decent character is dealing with.  I'm uncomfortably reminded of the way I felt in high-school, in a classroom with twice as many kids as it was designed for, desperately fighting the urge to run out of the room screaming (undiagnosed severe social anxiety disorder).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Elder Sign on 13 Sep 2020, 21:00
My votes went for:

Roko - because holy crap does she deserve much better developments to come her way, and I cannot recall another character who has ever made me so dearly want to jump into the pages and give them as big of a hug as is reasonably possible.
Elliot - because he's a kind, decent and caring person, and I identify all too well with the same anxiety around dating/relationships.
Faye & Bubbles - because relatively stable loving relationship, and ... I guess because I didn't like the rest of the list.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Sorflakne on 13 Sep 2020, 22:09
May, because May.
Milli, because in a way she sort of feels like a callback to the early days of the comic.
Beeps, because she has a sly side to her clumsy normal self.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: MrNumbers on 13 Sep 2020, 22:12
May Elliott Clinton

It's my three names, but "May" can be read both ways here.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: brasca on 13 Sep 2020, 22:57
May wants to know if she’s taller than Bubbles?  She really did have a low grade chassis if it couldn’t determine height. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 13 Sep 2020, 23:01
What do you mean?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 13 Sep 2020, 23:12
This is a really hard poll right now:- Right now, I put Roko and Beepatrice because Roko has my sympathy and is still fighting her problem as hard as she can - and Beeps because she is showing the depth of character she's been hiding behind a ditsy exterior   :-D
 But I could also have put May because she's showing that this ugly little seed is capable of growing and blossoming ( whether it continues or not is a matter for debate   :-\ ) - also Clinton because of the growing he has already been doing - and Elliot for taking his courage in both hands and going for it - and Renee for being the "Mom friend" when her friends need it - and Brun because she always makes me smile, if not laugh outright...

So, yeah, it seems to really depend on the situation at the time - it'll probably change again next week!  :laugh:

Oh, and the third one? My "other"?
Marten - yep, the old original protagonist, simply because I could always identify with him  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Sep 2020, 23:22
May really has changed. She's enjoying the experience of life for the first time and, even though she's still a goblin, I think that she's at least going to be a more positive personality going forwards. I'm not sure if that will make her less annoying to know! I mean, just think about Pintsize!

I know that Roko doesn't want to be considered sick and she doesn't want everyone else to know about the problems she's having. However, these episodes are too frequent and come on too easily to the point where they're a danger to her. As kooky as Lemon can be, she is a proper therapist and might be able to help. Roko needs that help before she starts seriously damaging herself, either on a hardware or software level.

Side note: the new chassis has mellowed May out already. Volunteering to help out Beeps and May, acknowledging others as friends... Let's see if this continues once her body loses that 'new chassis' smell.

Last week I noted that May had probably been in the AI equivalent of constant pain. So, in a lot of ways, she's feeling liberated and with a new lease of life! So, yeah, she's feeling great and wants to embrace life with a new sense of positivity. Whilst that's good to see, I'm sure that combining that with her personal interests might be annoying for some!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 13 Sep 2020, 23:37
Err, my favorite characters are always Hanners and Raven. Third option, not sure.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Sep 2020, 23:47
Err, my favorite characters are always Hanners and Raven. Third option, not sure.

So, you don't really have 'favourites' in the current cast?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: traroth on 14 Sep 2020, 01:10
It seems to be a given that Lemon sucks at her job...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jesslc on 14 Sep 2020, 01:27
Well, I guess that answers my question from last week. Roko didn't come back to explore other therapeutic options because she didn't think it would do any good. (To be fair, Lemon's previous attempt at counseling her wouldn't inspire much confidence in anyone). But I really hope Lemon does have something that can help Roko - a referral to a body adjustment therapist/specialist maybe?

It's also nice to see Beeps showing sense and discretion here.

 
I sort of like the faint double-image/out of focus effect Jeph is using to show the massive stress that Roko is feeling. It's a little hard to say "like" for something that shows the pain a decent character is dealing with.  I'm uncomfortably reminded of the way I felt in high-school, in a classroom with twice as many kids as it was designed for, desperately fighting the urge to run out of the room screaming (undiagnosed severe social anxiety disorder).
I think it's a highly effective way of visualising her strain to us. So I like it a lot in that regard - not in the sense that it means Roko is suffering.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Annemoon on 14 Sep 2020, 01:34
It seems to be a given that Lemon sucks at her job...

Yeah... current (Monday's) strip kinda just adds more points to that notion.
It's a really unfortunate job to be bad at tho.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: the silent firefly on 14 Sep 2020, 02:33
if Jeph wanted to screw over May:
Roko has to switch bodies, has to go with a way cheaper one, retroactively loses her BodyHub points, May then can't afford the Josefina

i don't think that's going to happen but for the sake of conspiracies...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Sep 2020, 04:18
Err, my favorite characters are always Hanners and Raven. Third option, not sure.
So, you don't really have 'favourites' in the current cast?
Well, I like them all well enough but those arent my actual favorites.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Sep 2020, 04:55
A poll for favourite character that doesn't mention Hanners is very weird to me.

I'm also confused as to why Bubbles & Faye can't be voted on individually.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Sep 2020, 04:59
I'm kinda partial to that skinny guy that we see every so often.

What's his name? Marty? Martino?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Sep 2020, 05:35
A poll for favourite character that doesn't mention Hanners is very weird to me.

I'm also confused as to why Bubbles & Faye can't be voted on individually.

Because Hanners, like Marten and Claire, is hardly ever in the strip anymore. Even Jeph calls him the former protagonist! As I explained, you don't get Bubbles OR Faye these days, only Bubbles AND Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Sep 2020, 05:41
As I explained, you don't get Bubbles OR Faye these days, only Bubbles AND Faye.

So what? Just because they only appear together, doesn't mean you can't have one of them as a favourite.

Because Hanners, like Marten and Claire, is hardly ever in the strip anymore. Even Jeph calls him the former protagonist!

Wait, who are we discussing now?

I am quite confident that we have not seen the last of Hanners. She is waaaay too popular to be abandoned.

Edit: Also, former protagonist (I assume you confused my post with jwhouk's in the middle of writing and switched to Marten there) does not mean former cast member.

2nd edit: Maybe you shouldn't choose people's favourites for them, is what I'm suggesting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Sep 2020, 05:49
Because, if anyone had bothered to read my opening post, they would have seen that this is a poll who is the favourite of the current regular cast. Not their all-time favourites. This is clear and I cannot be held responsible if people look at the poll and see what they want to see, not what is actually there.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Sep 2020, 05:54
To be fair, "regular cast" is rather vague and open to interpretation.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Sep 2020, 06:01
Yeah, I saw.

Okay, so a simple poll for this week: Who is your current favourite focus characters?

I've kept the options to the characters who are the primary focus right now. So, characters like Hannelore, Dora, Marten and Claire don't appear as they've moved to secondary or even background characters right now.

Regardless. I still think that a poll like this that excludes Hanners is weird. That was just my reaction. She still feels like a central cast member to me even if she doesn't appear as frequently as some others.

And while I'm repeating myself, Bubbles and Faye, despite being glued at the hips, remain separate individuals that can be liked by readers together or individually.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Sep 2020, 06:49
oh

Crap. I was hoping Roko would get more help with this. Not a cure, mind you. But something to help her deal with the dissociation.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Sep 2020, 07:12
if Jeph wanted to screw over May:
Roko has to switch bodies, has to go with a way cheaper one, retroactively loses her BodyHub points, May then can't afford the Josefina

i don't think that's going to happen but for the sake of conspiracies...
.....How does that constitute a conspiracy?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrudd on 14 Sep 2020, 07:14
I ascribe the episodes akin to epileptic seizures [the normal small ones and not ganmal] where they try very hard to hide it from the people around them andslink off somewhere to get it over with.
It is never a good thing and having at least one person with you who you trust makes for a world of difference with the situation.
Fortunately she has two with her of which one is qualified and the other supportive.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 14 Sep 2020, 10:33
Wow, Beeps was uncharacteristically on the ball there!  She saw what was up and made a socially acceptable excuse to get Roko out of the situation without drawing attention to it!  Good on Beeps!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 14 Sep 2020, 11:44
The potted succulents are whispering among themselves. I sense a conspiracy brewing!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: the silent firefly on 14 Sep 2020, 12:44
if Jeph wanted to screw over May:
Roko has to switch bodies, has to go with a way cheaper one, retroactively loses her BodyHub points, May then can't afford the Josefina

i don't think that's going to happen but for the sake of conspiracies...
.....How does that constitute a conspiracy?

well, a conspiracy-like train of thought? i dunno. i think it's possible but not likely, but maybe that's just me being optimistic for May's sake.



The potted succulents are whispering among themselves. I sense a conspiracy brewing!

that's strange. is it a foreshadow of some kind?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Sep 2020, 14:11
The potted succulents are whispering among themselves.

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Sep 2020, 17:02
Regardless. I still think that a poll like this that excludes Hanners is weird. That was just my reaction. She still feels like a central cast member to me even if she doesn't appear as frequently as some others.
I respectfully disagree. She's a popular character, but she isn't part of any of the current main two-plus-one storylines (Roko's dissociation, the Elliot/Clinton/Brun/Mille romantic tangle, and May's new body). I actually think Melon doesn't belong in the poll either. She's too one-dimensional to be a major figure.

(I'm sure I'm missing storylines here, and I've omitted others--Dora and Tai's wedding, for example--because they haven't been touched in months.)
And while I'm repeating myself, Bubbles and Faye, despite being glued at the hips, remain separate individuals that can be liked by readers together or individually.
I do agree with this. Dora and Tai almost never appear apart anymore, yet they have wildly different personalities. Same with Marten and Claire, Veronica and Jim, etc. I don't think it's fair to call them "[essentially the same character]."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Case on 14 Sep 2020, 17:57
What do you mean?

You're a CS grad, right? How difficult would it be for you to write a smartphone-app that could infer the user's height from, say, the users' shadow upon a wall if the wall's height and relative position of the lightsource is know?

[Insert here any other method you can come up with to infer world-coordinates from measurements routinely accessible to a humdrum-ordinary real-world smartphone - There's freeware motion-capture apps that give decent results using a kinnect's sensors or a bunch of webcams. Other's can turn your smartphone into a 6DoF motion-tracker using the build-in acceleration sensors and its camera for drift-correction.  IIRC, Google routinely supplements GPS positioning data used by Google-maps by triangulating signal runtimes of known local wifi-hotspots. Your own eyes & brain do triangulation using data from the muscles orienting your peepers.]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Sep 2020, 18:34
AIs aren't computers, and most of their 'computing power' goes into maintaining their sentience.

We've been over this.

Also, if AIs have this ability to look at people and accurately determine their height, then what does the quality of their chassis have to do with it?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Sep 2020, 18:37
Comic's up.

Aha, Beeps and Lemon are acquainted with each other. That should provide some backstory :) Lemon is correct though - that tracking software is very creepy and invasive.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 14 Sep 2020, 18:43
I wonder if Lemon knows how to uninstall it? Like, can you jailbreak a chassis and use a different operating system? I have no idea what implications that would have for a sentient being “born” in one operating system tho?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Sep 2020, 18:49
In lieu of the Robot College spin-off comic that I know we aren’t going to get (due to there only being one of Jeph and 24 hours in a day), we need at least a couple of flashbacks to the sorority house where Beeps and Lemon lived.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Sep 2020, 18:53
And this is why you never attend a protest with your mobile phone on you.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Sep 2020, 20:26
I suspect the anti-damage and this program were almost certainly created by human beings.

Which is... interesting, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Sep 2020, 21:57
I suspect the anti-damage and this program were almost certainly created by human beings.

Which is... interesting, I guess.

I was just rereading "Debt" by David Graeber, since he died earlier this month, and I had this page open while I read your comment;

Quote
Modern ideas of rights and liberties are derived from what came to be known as “natural rights theory”—from the time when Jean Gerson, Rector of the University of Paris, began to lay them out around 1400, building on Roman law concepts. As Richard Tuck, the premier historian of such ideas, has long noted, it is one of the great ironies of history that this was always a body of theory embraced not by the progressives of that time, but by conservatives. “For a Gersonian, liberty was property and could be exchanged in the same way and in the same terms as any other property”—sold, swapped, loaned, or otherwise voluntarily surrendered. It followed that there could be nothing intrinsically wrong with, say, debt peonage, or even slavery. And this is exactly what natural-rights theorists came to assert. In fact, over the next centuries, these ideas came to be developed above all in Antwerp and Lisbon, cities at the very center of the emerging slave trade.
[...]
Just as lawyers have spent a thousand years trying to make sense of Roman property concepts, so have philosophers spent centuries trying to understand how it could be possible for us to have a relation of domination over ourselves. The most popular solution—to say that each of us has something called a “mind” and that this is completely separate from something else, which we can call “the body,” and that the first thing holds natural dominion over the second—flies in the face of just about everything we now know about cognitive science. It’s obviously untrue, but we continue to hold onto it anyway, for the simple reason that none of our everyday assumptions about property, law, and freedom would make any sense without it.

AI's kind of exist in a place where what is a legal-fiction for humans is literal. What is, for us, a relic of our definitions of rights and property coming from (again in Graeber's words) defining a relationship between two people where one was also property, a thing - manifests when the mind can be housed in a different body chassis, which is property.

So that's cool, interesting and terrible.

But it also makes a really interesting case the other way; It's interesting to consider that most of this forum's users' legal frameworks essentially see us as AI who can't change bodies. So human laws probably weirdly protect AIs because that's how we (wrongly) conceive of humans!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: citizenfive on 14 Sep 2020, 21:58
I more took the software to refer to something in the store itself rather than spyware installed in Roko's firmware. I'm thinking of your usual security camera system but with emotion detection.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: bright on 14 Sep 2020, 23:09
I wouldn't be surprised if the tracking software turns out to be Yay.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Sep 2020, 23:21
Okay, that's something else that's going to be hard to fit into any consistent timeline of AI development and narrative of how individual AIs are created and made ready for living: An AI college?!? How does that happen? I'm guessing that it's a virtual institution like Robot Jail and might work on a very accelerated time-frame. That said, I do wonder if Jeph has pitched his 'Robot Dumbing of Age' idea to David Willis?

That aside, I agree that the body shop probably has wireless sensors to detect if a newly-embodied AI is suffering side-effects and that is probably what paged Lemon that Roko was slipping into a trance state. I wonder what it works on? Does the chassis itself send a 'distress signal' if the AI itself becomes less responsive? Or are there symptoms on a wireless networking level?

In any case, Lemon is probably right that the first step in therapy is to get Roko away from any feeling that she is under surveillance!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Sep 2020, 23:53
I am a bit surprised that people dont understand what that tracking app is - its obviously a software that evaluates the shop cameras and detects behavior abnormalities.

Pretty much like some software nowadays tries to do the exact same with thieves.

It cant be anything inside Roko because the shop has no legal access to Rokos internals.

Also, in that case they couldnt move away from it - Roko would have this software all the time.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 15 Sep 2020, 00:03
I strongly disagree with Jeph about Robot College being like Dumbing of Age College: you actually graduate from Robot College, it'll take 80 years to gradate from Dumbing of Age college at the rate Willis is moving the storyline along!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: immortalfrieza on 15 Sep 2020, 00:42
Sure ladies, let's just stand around talking about what to do while another woman is clearly having a dissociative episode rather than doing anything.

Note at this point Roko looks like she is less freaking out and more thinking "I have to depend upon these two idiots?"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Dock Braun on 15 Sep 2020, 01:28
I only speak for myself, so I won't say that May may have wanted nothing less than even think about Bubbles' height. When I was less comfortable with myself, I certainly would not have looked at another person, especially for comparison. The emotional stress would have been too great. Emotionally stressed, the best immediate help was gradual to total distraction.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Sep 2020, 06:47
So, more like, "I wanna see if I can look her in the eye"? 


And good on Lemon, maybe she actually knows what she's doing and can help Roko...






As for Robot College, it sounds a bit like it's a disembodied voice in the creche asking, "And what do you want to do for a living?", then about 2 weeks of software downloads and a practicum/lab after embodiment.  In the early days, there were no choices, it was just companion training, then military options, then it sort of branched out from there.  Therapy was an early option because, you know, all those companion and military AI's needed help...


Oh, and the disembodied voice?  All AI's recognize the Yay-I when they speak.  It's the humans that have a problem knowing what they are. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Sep 2020, 06:47
The Robot College thing makes me think of that Futurama episode about the robot fraternity.

I strongly disagree with Jeph about Robot College being like Dumbing of Age College: you actually graduate from Robot College, it'll take 80 years to gradate from Dumbing of Age college at the rate Willis is moving the storyline along!
I dunno, he just advanced the timeline by four months in the past week.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Sep 2020, 07:24
Sure ladies, let's just stand around talking about what to do while another woman is clearly having a dissociative episode rather than doing anything.

Note at this point Roko looks like she is less freaking out and more thinking "I have to depend upon these two idiots?"

I have to admit this had crossed my mind also.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: brasca on 15 Sep 2020, 07:30
I strongly disagree with Jeph about Robot College being like Dumbing of Age College: you actually graduate from Robot College, it'll take 80 years to gradate from Dumbing of Age college at the rate Willis is moving the storyline along!

Maybe, but I’d still like to see it.  Maybe as a Patreon Bonus.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Sep 2020, 07:34
BEEPS: "Hey, Lemon, do you remember that fundamentalist Turingian in R34D Hall? J9YC3?"

LEMON: "Yes, I do wonder what happened to her after she graduated..."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: specter177 on 15 Sep 2020, 11:20
If Robot College is just Robot DOA, that explains their obsession with butts.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 15 Sep 2020, 14:51
Plot twist: it turns out that Robot College is a small local college that was founded by entrepreneur and highly respected educational researcher Lucy J Robot.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: celticgeek on 15 Sep 2020, 18:19
But what if Bubbles gets new heels, too?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Sep 2020, 18:20
Comic’s up.

One question is answered, another is asked.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2020, 18:22
Don't try too hard May. No matter how high your heels are, Bubbles can still crush you into a smoking pile with one hand while wielding a concrete saw (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3857) with the other.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Sep 2020, 18:57
Faye: "You DO realize I know how to take you apart? LITERALLY."

May: "Sorry. MISS Shortcakes?"

"Better."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 15 Sep 2020, 19:32
Faye: "You DO realize I know how to take you apart? LITERALLY."

May: "Sorry. MISS Shortcakes?"

"Better."
What kind of crime is it if you disassemble an AI's chassis without their consent? I'm guessing (and hoping) that it's more severe than vandalism but less so than disassembling a human.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2020, 19:35
I guess that depends on the amount of damage you do to the chassis while disassembling.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Sep 2020, 20:29
I kinda assume it's been done to Pintsize at least once as a prank.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2020, 20:39
Also: May, Read The Frickin' Manual. It should contain all the measurements you need. Shoe size, bra size, waist circumference, inner leg length, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: chris73 on 15 Sep 2020, 20:42
If you can change bodies simply by plonking some money down (that'd be nice) is size really a big deal for robots?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2020, 20:43
It's good to know your size for clothes shopping etc.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Penquin47 on 15 Sep 2020, 21:05
Miss Bubbles looks a little cranky.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Case on 15 Sep 2020, 21:15
Yup, definitely still May ...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 15 Sep 2020, 21:18
Oh, and the disembodied voice?  All AI's recognize the Yay-I when they speak.  It's the humans that have a problem knowing what they are.
Corpse Witch (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3412) didn't seem to. Nor would this make sense given Yay's known backstory as an extremely covert AI.
Miss Bubbles looks a little cranky.
Possibly annoyed that May was rather rude to Faye a moment ago? Though I must say that I don't read her expression as cranky myself.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Cheetaur on 15 Sep 2020, 22:09
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Sep 2020, 23:12
A part of me doesn't want to believe that choosing a tall chassis was partly motivated with wanting to be as tall (or, ideally, taller) than Bubbles but, when I think about it, it's the sort of thing that May would do, isn't it? Oh, May? The answer to your question is 'big enough to make sourcing feminine footwear difficult and expensive' but I'll let you find that out on your own.

I love Bubbles' expression in panel 4. She's literally only been interacting with May for a few seconds and already the girl is annoying her! As Dale said, still the goblin, just in a new body!

If you can change bodies simply by plonking some money down (that'd be nice) is size really a big deal for robots?

Roko's problems show that self-image is as important to them as it is to humans. Additionally, it requires a large amount of money, so you can't simply go taller and taller until you reach your goal unless you have a lot of income or lots of savings.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: TorporChambre on 15 Sep 2020, 23:14
Forgetting? Methinks all there but amplified.
But what if Bubbles gets new heels, too?
:mrgreen: We must not allow, a high-heels gap!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 15 Sep 2020, 23:33
Faye: "You DO realize I know how to take you apart? LITERALLY."

May: "Sorry. MISS Shortcakes?"

"Better."
What kind of crime is it if you disassemble an AI's chassis without their consent? I'm guessing (and hoping) that it's more severe than vandalism but less so than disassembling a human.

If they don't have the same civil rights as humans, then at the very least it's vandalism and destruction of private property...if they do actually have rights, it's at a minimum assault with a dangerous weapon as well as assault and battery causing severe bodily injury(two separate crimes).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 16 Sep 2020, 00:07
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .

That would imply that she knew them before, or cared.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Sep 2020, 00:28
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .
I would have used stronger words to state the same, but yes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jesslc on 16 Sep 2020, 02:51
I kinda assume it's been done to Pintsize at least once as a prank.  :-D
My archive-fu is not good enough to find you the link but Marten definitely disassembled Pintsize and used his head or torso as a cereal bowl once. Punishment for some prank Pintsize pulled or something like that. That one might have been before robots had full civil rights though.

And there was also the comic where someone (Faye?) replaced his head with a dildo.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Sep 2020, 02:55
I kinda assume it's been done to Pintsize at least once as a prank.  :-D
My archive-fu is not good enough to find you the link but Marten definitely disassembled Pintsize and used his head or torso as a cereal bowl once. Punishment for some prank Pintsize pulled or something like that. That one might have been before robots had full civil rights though.

And there was also the comic where someone (Faye?) replaced his head with a dildo.
Yeah, I don’t remember that last one? Not least because Pintsize would have wanted to keep it that way…
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 16 Sep 2020, 05:37
Which reminds me: did we ever see delivery of Pintsize's commission at UR?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: alc40 on 16 Sep 2020, 05:45
Cereal bowl was back at comic 464 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=464), so definitely before AI civil rights (a constitutional amendment had been passed by #1900).  The dildo one was 2649 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2649).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Sep 2020, 06:30
If you can change bodies simply by plonking some money down (that'd be nice) is size really a big deal for robots?
Depends on a) if you were stuck being short, b) how long you were stucking being short, c) how inconvenient was it to be stuck being short, d) did you like/come to terms with being short.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrudd on 16 Sep 2020, 07:30
What kind of crime is it if you disassemble an AI's chassis without their consent? I'm guessing (and hoping) that it's more severe than vandalism but less so than disassembling a human.
None if you are customs and border control or any other enforcement agency if you are referencing the Real World [tm]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: brasca on 16 Sep 2020, 13:17
Faye: "You DO realize I know how to take you apart? LITERALLY."

May: "Sorry. MISS Shortcakes?"

"Better."
What kind of crime is it if you disassemble an AI's chassis without their consent? I'm guessing (and hoping) that it's more severe than vandalism but less so than disassembling a human.

If they don't have the same civil rights as humans, then at the very least it's vandalism and destruction of private property...if they do actually have rights, it's at a minimum assault with a dangerous weapon as well as assault and battery causing severe bodily injury(two separate crimes).

We don't know what rights are specified here, but keep in mind Faye has threatened bodily harm to people so she's an equal opportunity brute.  May could shrug off the threat, but if she didn't apologize it's likely she wouldn't be welcome back at the shop.   

Cereal bowl was back at comic 464 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=464), so definitely before AI civil rights (a constitutional amendment had been passed by #1900).  The dildo one was 2649 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2649).

In Pintsize's case there may be some stipulation that as a companion he has to roll with it especially if he does something that could get him sent to robot jail.  Pintsize gets away with some of the things he does because he's a tiny robot companion.  If he were a human being he'd likely be registered as a sex offender.  As such Marten and Faye may have given him the option of being disassembled or arrested and he took the former. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Sep 2020, 14:43
Assuming disassembly of an AI implies reassembly is possible, without actual damage, it's quite different than disassembling a human. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 16 Sep 2020, 15:02
Many a mad scientist has had a bad evening with that combined with the failure of a lightening strike.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Sep 2020, 16:04
Great pics here for comparing their figures.
May's "gonna pwn you so hard" expression as she steps up to Bubbles is delightful.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: the silent firefly on 16 Sep 2020, 18:14
i'm getting the feeling someone will have to explain to May that she's quickly turning into a bully
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: ANeM on 16 Sep 2020, 18:31
I am glad that Lemon specializes in AI therapy because the "smell this weird, possibly toxic goo" thing would be a very bad grounding technique for a human patient.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: the silent firefly on 16 Sep 2020, 18:48
Lemon and Melon are definitely related.

i miss the days when Roko said "FAHK" instead of "FUCK"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Sep 2020, 18:53
Good job Lemon! You snapped Roko out of her episode quite efficiently.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jmsr on 16 Sep 2020, 19:23
I am glad that Lemon specializes in AI therapy because the "smell this weird, possibly toxic goo" thing would be a very bad grounding technique for a human patient.

WELP.  Lemon may be more put together and 'normal,' but she is definitely part of the same series that Melon is from!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tyr on 16 Sep 2020, 19:29
I am glad that Lemon specializes in AI therapy because the "smell this weird, possibly toxic goo" thing would be a very bad grounding technique for a human patient.

I'm not. At the bare minimum, I'd expect any healthcare worker to keep the patient's chassis configuration and physical tolerances in mind, whether the patient is primarily organic, metallic, or polymeric.
I'm sure npleasant sensations CAN be useful from a therapeutic standpoint1, but there's a maximum threshold of which 'my nose is now missing' is well on the wrong side.
1: e.g. snapping a rubber band around your wrist for pain to dissuade you from lighting a cigarette or putting ice in your mouth to 'shock' your system out of a panic attack.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Sep 2020, 19:45
I kinda assume it's been done to Pintsize at least once as a prank.  :-D
Several times, actually.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Sep 2020, 19:48
WELP.  Lemon may be more put together and 'normal,' but she is definitely part of the same series that Melon is from!


Well, Melon and Lemon are sisters (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3912). They come from a big family, Lemon states that she has 2,048 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3906) of them!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Sep 2020, 20:03
.... well, it WORKED, looks like.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Elder Sign on 16 Sep 2020, 20:46
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .
May?

Manners?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA coughspluttercroak
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 16 Sep 2020, 20:55
...Maybe it's an effective grounding technique, but that's like singing someone to sleep and then screaming in their ear.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: jesslc on 16 Sep 2020, 21:54
Well, what do you know - looks like Lemon is not completely hopeless at her job after all.    :-) 

Though it's looks like Roko was already back in her body by panel 4 thanks to the mindfulness grounding exercise. So the dumpster goo probably wasn't necessary. That said, smelling salts were a strong unpleasant smell, right? Is this a modern equivalent?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 16 Sep 2020, 22:03
She's not wrong, you know...smelling salts work on the same principle and smells are often a huge factor in triggering memories which helps to shock the brain into focusing on other things causing the episode to end.

Seriously, I still can't stand the smell of root beer after 32 years due to it being used to put me under for major surgery...same with bubblegum :(
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 16 Sep 2020, 22:05
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .
May?

Manners?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA coughspluttercroak

I think she purposely deleted them alongside tact and self-control...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 16 Sep 2020, 22:12
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .

She didn't forget, she happily chose to not use them...plus she's about a gruff and mannerless as you'll ever see among characters so I doubt she cares about manners in the first place
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 16 Sep 2020, 22:44
I think May is a bit high on her new body and really wants to show off a bit...however it seems she is forgetting a few manners .
May?

Manners?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA coughspluttercroak

I think she purposely deleted them alongside tact and self-control...

Deleted? No. Never had them to begin with, or got overridden by her lack of impulse control.
Personally, I hope being embodied amd around other individuals - both fleshy and not - her edges will grind down to an acceptable level.


Well, what do you know - looks like Lemon is not completely hopeless at her job after all.    :-) 

Though it's looks like Roko was already back in her body by panel 4 thanks to the mindfulness grounding exercise. So the dumpster goo probably wasn't necessary. That said, smelling salts were a strong unpleasant smell, right? Is this a modern equivalent?

Well, what did you expect? She works with friggin' nuclear reactors. Is she weird as hell outside of her function as AI therapist? Hell yeah!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Sep 2020, 23:16
So, we see the skill set that Lemon brings to her job and shows that, a Fruit Sister or not, she's a lot more mature than Melon and knows the differences between objective reality and whatever subjective world she may occasionally choose to occupy! It looks like it did a lot of good for Roko and, honestly, from what I understand of the human equivalent condition, having an effective coping strategy ready to go under all circumstances is probably the best outcome Roko can really hope to have except in the very longest terms.

She's not wrong, you know...smelling salts work on the same principle and smells are often a huge factor in triggering memories which helps to shock the brain into focusing on other things causing the episode to end.

I suspect that Lemon uses that stuff as a shock to bring her patient out of their centring/grounding trance. As you say, it's also a very good way of reminding their brains that they are definitely connected to their body.

So... Vial of stuff found in a dumpster! Why it's a tube of Kerbal Space Program Mystery GooTM! That stuff is an invaluable scientific environmental condition test material! I wonder who dumped that test-tube of the stuff and how much trouble they're going to get in for losing it?

Also... Beeps? No. That way madness and possibly addiction lie.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 17 Sep 2020, 00:07
I'm really curious if theres actually 2048 different fruits - or if they had to switch the naming scheme at some point.

I mean Melon and Lemon are pretty straigthforward, but after that ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_culinary_fruits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inedible_fruits

P.s.: Nevermind, apparently there are 7500 kinds of apples ALONE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Boxer on 17 Sep 2020, 01:19
I'm really curious if theres actually 2048 different fruits - or if they had to switch the naming scheme at some point.
P.s.: Nevermind, apparently there are 7500 kinds of apples ALONE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars
P.S.S. They probably wouldn't be able to use any apple names, seems a certain computer company has a lot of lawyers and goes after anyone that uses similar names, logos, or even UI design choices.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Boxer on 17 Sep 2020, 01:24
While everyone is suggesting Lemon used them as smelling salts,
but we do have to remember she is the same model as her sister Melon... who likes smelling drain cleaners, cooking paint cans, skunk odours and didn't think anything of putting a dead squirrel under her nose as a fake moustache!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 17 Sep 2020, 02:23
Good point, Lemon may well have thought she was offering Roko a really delightful smell she found. It would make sense then that she bothered to scrape some up and keep it when she encountered it, which is a bit puzzliing otherwise (but she is Melon's sister, so puzzling behaviour is on-brand) - she probably wanted to use it as an air freshener or something!

Poor Roko....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: brasca on 17 Sep 2020, 06:54
Lemon and Melon are definitely related.

i miss the days when Roko said "FAHK" instead of "FUCK"

Could be a sign of improvement.  She’s not so stressed out by all this that she’s slipped into her Bostonian accent.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 17 Sep 2020, 08:16
Interesting speculations, all.  Buuuuuut.  What does Beeps smell with?  Her body draws her face on a screen at will, so there's no physical nose...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Sep 2020, 08:20
I was wondering that too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: MightyCoop on 17 Sep 2020, 08:34
Is it ironic that she has to go into Airplane Mode to get grounded?

Yes, I just went through the registration process and made an account just to make that lame joke to you all.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 17 Sep 2020, 09:54
"My dog has no nose..."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Sep 2020, 11:16
Is it ironic that she has to go into Airplane Mode to get grounded?

Yes, I just went through the registration process and made an account just to make that lame joke to you all.

Worth every penny.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 17 Sep 2020, 11:41
Have you seen the Random Puns thread (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29119.0.html)? We love jokes like that.

We even have emotes for it:  :claireface: :bigclaireface:  :clairedoge: (and arguably also  :parrot: )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 17 Sep 2020, 12:09
Um, Lemon? Why were you scrounging in a dumpster?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Sep 2020, 18:41
New comic.

Lemon gives pretty good advice, Roko shouldn't think in absolutes. After all, only a Sith (https://www.starwars.com/news/8-great-obi-wan-kenobi-quotes#:~:text=%E2%80%9COnly%20a%20Sith%20deals%20in%20absolutes.%E2%80%9D&text=All%20or%20nothing.,down%20such%20a%20dangerous%20gauntlet.) does that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 17 Sep 2020, 19:22
"But doctor, it feels so good when I stop hitting my head against the wall!"

Also, secondary thing--does it bother anyone else that Lemon has 2048 sisters, rather than 2047? That means there are 2049 FROOTS™ in total, which isn't a power of two.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Sep 2020, 19:47
I kept wondering that as well, unless Lemon means that there are 2,048 sisters in total?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 17 Sep 2020, 19:59
I can tell you that there were numerous bothered forumites the day that comic dropped.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 17 Sep 2020, 20:32
Beeps! Stop that!  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Sep 2020, 20:51
Interesting speculations, all.  Buuuuuut.  What does Beeps smell with?  Her body draws her face on a screen at will, so there's no physical nose...
Maybe her smell receptors are at the underside base of her chin? They could also be tucked away in her hairline.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Sep 2020, 20:55
I thought Beeps just had a 'regular' face. Where is it mentioned that her face gets drawn on a screen?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Carl-E on 17 Sep 2020, 21:56
It isn't.  However, Beeps is definitely a less realistic face than Lemon or Roko.  Note the difference in profiles (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4352). 

Ama the salesgirl seems to be the same type (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4342).  [ur=https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4323l]Millefeuille is also[/url].  Certainly a more realistic face than Pintsize & co., or Jeremy and Seven, or Melon's roomate who's name escapes me.  Or Punchbot. 

Back in day there was some speculation that Pintsize's mouth was drawn on a screen of some sort, but I think the only genuine screenface would be the old iPod Winslow. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 17 Sep 2020, 23:04
I'm really curious if theres actually 2048 different fruits - or if they had to switch the naming scheme at some point.
P.s.: Nevermind, apparently there are 7500 kinds of apples ALONE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars
P.S.S. They probably wouldn't be able to use any apple names, seems a certain computer company has a lot of lawyers and goes after anyone that uses similar names, logos, or even UI design choices.

Someone better tell Apple Martin she is banned from using her given name...

All joking aside, this is actually an issue that pro wrestlers have when they leave one promotion or another. A name is only "owned" by a company if it's created by them. Your given name isn't owned by them, they legally can't bar you from using it. They can bar you from presenting as being part of a family or associated with a company, but they can't bar you from using your own name.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 17 Sep 2020, 23:06
Interesting speculations, all.  Buuuuuut.  What does Beeps smell with?  Her body draws her face on a screen at will, so there's no physical nose...

Just because you don't have a physical representation of a nose does not mean that you don't have olfactory sensors in your face or elsewhere on your head...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Sep 2020, 23:11
Can someone tell me when Beepatrice and Lemon swapped personalities because the stunt that Beeps is pulling right now is something I'd expect from Lemon or Melon, not from a certain quiet and insecure test equipment observer! That said, Roko has gained another bit of evidence to convince her subconscious that this is definitely her body: Traumatic scent memory. She'll probably be flashing back on that odour for months!

Meanwhile... Yeah, this sucks for Roko but issues like this can't be easily 'cured'. As I posted yesterday, the real optimistic most Roko can hope for is coping strategies based on awareness of what triggers episodes and a knowledge of how to 'reset' herself rather than just lapse into a sort of panic attack. 'Fixing' thing is a long-term goal and not a certain one.

Interesting speculations, all.  Buuuuuut.  What does Beeps smell with?  Her body draws her face on a screen at will, so there's no physical nose...

Just because she doesn't have a nose, doesn't mean that Beepatrice doesn't have olfactory sensors. They may even be externally-mounted like an insect's antennae.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 17 Sep 2020, 23:28
What does Beeps smell with?

Interesting question.

Maybe her smell receptors are at the underside base of her chin? They could also be tucked away in her hairline.

Good ideas.

Just because she doesn't have a nose, doesn't mean that Beepatrice doesn't have olfactory sensors.

Just because you don't have a physical representation of a nose does not mean that you don't have olfactory sensors in your face or elsewhere on your head...

Yeah, uhhh.... not sure that explanation was entirely necessary.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 17 Sep 2020, 23:45
Just a thought, but perhaps the olfactory sensors are also necessary for her other job. Over X rpm, the trademark scent is starting to get burnt overtones. or some such. User experience and all that.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 18 Sep 2020, 00:01
I thought Beeps has just a very flat face.



Is it ironic that she has to go into Airplane Mode to get grounded?

Yes, I just went through the registration process and made an account just to make that lame joke to you all.
I can sympathize with that.

Also I dont get why US americans claim that puns would be "lame".  :?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 Sep 2020, 02:31


Also I dont get why US americans claim that puns would be "lame".  :?

Not in *here* surely?
There are days I think this entire site is "Powered by Punnage". ©
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 18 Sep 2020, 02:42
There are days I think this entire site is "Powered by Punnage". ©
And overthinking things.
Our two sources of power are punnage and overthinking. And shippers.
Our three sources of power are punnage, overthinking, and shippers. And nitpickery.

... I'll come in again.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 18 Sep 2020, 03:48
I'm really curious if theres actually 2048 different fruits - or if they had to switch the naming scheme at some point.
P.s.: Nevermind, apparently there are 7500 kinds of apples ALONE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars
P.S.S. They probably wouldn't be able to use any apple names, seems a certain computer company has a lot of lawyers and goes after anyone that uses similar names, logos, or even UI design choices.

Someone better tell Apple Martin she is banned from using her given name...

All joking aside, this is actually an issue that pro wrestlers have when they leave one promotion or another. A name is only "owned" by a company if it's created by them. Your given name isn't owned by them, they legally can't bar you from using it. They can bar you from presenting as being part of a family or associated with a company, but they can't bar you from using your own name.

One wrestler traded his trademarked nickname for a tryout deal so they could use nickname for the Undertaker.

He didn't pass the tryout. But they got through trademark.

Seems like more than one mark in that Story!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Thrudd on 18 Sep 2020, 04:56
The whole doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome at some point has politician/bureaucrat written all over it.

A good/bad real world example in my local news is that the Toronto Police services board is increasing the number of mobile crisis teams since they have been doing so well up till now ........  :psyduck:

(click to show/hide)
Where were we again?

Oh right - doing the same thing repeatedly hoping for a different result
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: cesium133 on 18 Sep 2020, 05:01


Also I dont get why US americans claim that puns would be "lame".  :?

Not in *here* surely?
There are days I think this entire site is "Powered by Punnage". ©
Except in more forested regions, where it's powered by Punditry.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 Sep 2020, 07:09
I thought Beeps has just a very flat face.



Is it ironic that she has to go into Airplane Mode to get grounded?

Yes, I just went through the registration process and made an account just to make that lame joke to you all.
I can sympathize with that.

Also I dont get why US americans claim that puns would be "lame".  :?

I suspect that's one of those oft repeated but often underexplored memetic pop-opinions people tend to repeat. Like 'I hate country music' or 'black licorice is gross'[1]. Fun fact, I've given folks[2] who say they hate black licorice black licorice[3] and they actually liked it. Two of them straight up asked me what it was because they'd never tasted it before.

[1] I'll agree if we're talking about that counterfeit trash Twizzlers brand markets as such. It's as much black licorice as their chocolate licorice is chocolate.
[2] I asked to make sure they didn't have any food allergies first.
[3] Real black licorice. Both Redvines and Wiley Wallaby.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 18 Sep 2020, 08:42
I suspect that's one of those oft repeated but often underexplored memetic pop-opinions people tend to repeat. Like 'I hate country music' or 'black licorice is gross'[1]. Fun fact, I've given folks[2] who say they hate black licorice black licorice[3] and they actually liked it. Two of them straight up asked me what it was because they'd never tasted it before.
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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 18 Sep 2020, 09:16
"No, I meant how long is it gonna take for me to get over this smell?"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Roborat on 18 Sep 2020, 12:33
There are days I think this entire site is "Powered by Punnage". ©
And overthinking things.
Our two sources of power are punnage and overthinking. And shippers.
Our three sources of power are punnage, overthinking, and shippers. And nitpickery.

... I'll come in again.

Dammit, I knew that dog joke was going to trigger a Monty Python cascade.  Now stop that, it's silly.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: immortalfrieza on 18 Sep 2020, 15:10
There are days I think this entire site is "Powered by Punnage". ©
And overthinking things.
Our two sources of power are punnage and overthinking. And shippers.
Our three sources of power are punnage, overthinking, and shippers. And nitpickery.

... I'll come in again.

Dammit, I knew that dog joke was going to trigger a Monty Python cascade.  Now stop that, it's silly.
Silly?

BURN THE WITCH!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 18 Sep 2020, 15:28
Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Sep 2020, 15:53
Is it ironic that she has to go into Airplane Mode to get grounded?

Yes, I just went through the registration process and made an account just to make that lame joke to you all.

Welcome, new punster!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Sep 2020, 16:03
"But doctor, it feels so good when I stop hitting my head against the wall!"

Also, secondary thing--does it bother anyone else that Lemon has 2048 sisters, rather than 2047? That means there are 2049 FROOTS™ in total, which isn't a power of two.

How about this possibility? There are 2047, Lemon knows it, but to her saying 2048 is just a matter of rounding up? Like we ten-fingered organisms would describe a crowd of 999 as a thousand people?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Tova on 18 Sep 2020, 16:11
That's an amusing possibility.

Which would mean that there might not even be 2047 sisters. There might be 2035. Or even 1999.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 18 Sep 2020, 18:03
Let's just say that Lemon and Melon have A LOT of sisters.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: TorporChambre on 18 Sep 2020, 20:44
Dammit, I knew that dog joke was going to trigger a Monty Python cascade.  Now stop that, it's silly.
It's not silly, it's a very naughty thread!---And now for something completely different:
Human siblinghood is idemparentality e.g. I'm selfsibling; cybrid siblinghood being idemcrèchality, Lemon's 1stprime5thprime'd include Lemon.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 Sep 2020, 22:49
I suspect that's one of those oft repeated but often underexplored memetic pop-opinions people tend to repeat. Like 'I hate country music' or 'black licorice is gross'[1]. Fun fact, I've given folks[2] who say they hate black licorice black licorice[3] and they actually liked it. Two of them straight up asked me what it was because they'd never tasted it before.
Arm the xkcd cannons!

Fire!

***  https://xkcd.com/2241/  ***
"licorice"
No specifics at all. Not even singling out a single flavor, brand, or styling.

That's author bias.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 19 Sep 2020, 03:51
No specifics at all. Not even singling out a single flavor, brand, or styling.

That's author bias.
Licorice is the specific flavor: from Glycyrrhiza glabra or Glycyrrhiza lepidota plant. And if that's what was meant, it's not bias at all because it would mean the flavor generally. Although this may be more a case of maturing palate, because I hated licorice as a kid but now I love it. Unless there really was some innovations in the licorice plant that I'm not aware of.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: SilentSooYun on 20 Sep 2020, 02:46
"Well it looks like she hates it."
"Yes, that is it! I hate this!" sniffs "Ew, yes! I hate this! It is revolting!"
"More?"
"Please."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4351-4355 (14th to 18th September 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Sep 2020, 04:57
No specifics at all. Not even singling out a single flavor, brand, or styling.

That's author bias.
Licorice is the specific flavor: from Glycyrrhiza glabra or Glycyrrhiza lepidota plant. And if that's what was meant, it's not bias at all because it would mean the flavor generally. Although this may be more a case of maturing palate, because I hated licorice as a kid but now I love it. Unless there really was some innovations in the licorice plant that I'm not aware of.

There's tons of candy that presents itself as [x fruit] licorice (strawberry, cherry, mango, etc).

EDIT: Huh. I didn't realize open bracket x close bracket made bullet points.