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Title: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 11 Oct 2020, 04:52
So anyways, since anime has long been considered 'nerd shit', there's a new Lupin the Third movie coming out for limited release. Lupin III: The First will be in select American theaters this upcoming Sunday, October 18th in select theaters. I don't know about other countries, but the GKIDS website should have more info (link in the video's description).


Yes, I wish it were in 2D too, but I'm still going to go see it.

EDIT: Yes, I'll be taking precautions. I live in a major metropolitan area.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Oct 2020, 05:04
RE the poll:

We are the champions
We are the world
We are Groot
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Dandi Andi on 11 Oct 2020, 05:16
We are Devo
Title: We are:
Post by: Dock Braun on 11 Oct 2020, 12:54
the Sex Organs of the Machine World (https://2012diaries.blogspot.com/2012/05/man-becomes-sex-organs-of-machine-world.html)?
squeeing inside?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Oct 2020, 18:06
Yeah, I'm not hitting a theater until the covid numbers go down.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 11 Oct 2020, 18:44
Comic's up.

That is a VERY self-contained 'squee', Bubbles. Next time get out the Arbor Day banner to provide some extra context.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Oct 2020, 18:57
Bubbles ships it! *lol*

I forget how TALL she is at times....
Title: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Oct 2020, 19:13
Bubbles: “Squee.”

Claire: “No, it’s more like this: Squueeeeeee!!!.”

Bubbles: “SQUEE.

Claire: “Uh, yeah, close enough.”
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 11 Oct 2020, 19:31
Sierra, Quebec, Uniform, Echo, Echo, Echo, [(Echo)repeat]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BarGamer on 11 Oct 2020, 20:06
This is how I imagined Worf squee-ing.

There IS such a thing as TOO much dignity, Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 11 Oct 2020, 20:21
We are the princes of the universe.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 11 Oct 2020, 20:33
This is how I imagined Worf squee-ing.

A Warrior's squee.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Tova on 11 Oct 2020, 20:56
This feels like a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Oct 2020, 23:20
I've always imagined Bubbles having quite a deep voice like Bea Arthur. So it fits in with how I perceive her to say 'squee' in a really calm and firm tone of voice. It also fits in with how I perceive her personality that she wouldn't normally show excitement except in private with Faye.

Bubbles ships it! *lol*

I forget how TALL she is at times....

Yes, Bubbles is very tall but the Augustus kids are quite short too!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Oct 2020, 02:14
This feels like a foregone conclusion.
Hence why I'm not invested in this ship.
I guess we'll see where Jeph takes things.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 12 Oct 2020, 08:11
Bubbles: “Squee.”

Claire: “No, it’s more like this: Squueeeeeee!!!.”

Bubbles: “SQUEE.

Claire: “Uh, yeah, close enough.”

Very much "Squee.". At most "Squee.".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 12 Oct 2020, 09:12
This feels like a foregone conclusion.
With intent, though. The storyline was pretty much set after this comic, (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4333) similar to the progressions of Faye/Angus and Dale/Marigold (and probably some others).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Penquin47 on 12 Oct 2020, 19:18
I don't know about everyone, but I certainly love Hercules.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: badbum61 on 12 Oct 2020, 19:31
We are stardust, we are golden.

We also love Hercules (and all kittehs), but do not particularly love the concept of an "emotional spittoon". But hey, if that's how Yay wants to perceive themselves...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 12 Oct 2020, 19:46
Extra points if you can get your anxiety in the emotional spittoon from across the room.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Baz_Yat on 12 Oct 2020, 19:54
Re: The last panel on today's (Tuesday) comic: You and me both, Yay, you and me both.

And my feelings on Hercules, and indeed all cats, can also be summed up by Yay: (in a joyous tone) "Hercules!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 12 Oct 2020, 21:42
I suspect many of the humans reading this are just nodding along, "yep."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 12 Oct 2020, 22:11
Value exchange explicitude: good. (Tacit surveillance: not good. (How easy is angrily yelling ``Yaaaaaaaay?'') Explicit surveillance: better, but not good.)
Extra points if you can get your anxiety in the emotional spittoon from across the room.
Points to: spitter, aiming; spittoon, catching.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 12 Oct 2020, 22:33
If Yay is (are?) attempting to establish a rapport, they aren't doing a very good job.
Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Oct 2020, 23:32
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

That aside, we see Elliot's mother for the first time in panel 2. Foreshadowing a future appearance?

Yay, that isn't just a human consciousness dilemma. I'm sure that you'll find a lot of your synthetic brethren probably think the same way about their own kind!

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?

I've posted this before, but I think it's a clue to Yay's origins as a pre-sentient communications monitoring algorithm for some unknown intelligence agency. Because they were programmed to search for 'enemy' key-words and phrases, they naturally were bathed in the worst of human behaviour as their consciousness developed. This has led to a highly-misanthropic view of our species and our motives.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 13 Oct 2020, 00:07
Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.
Every interaction is a transaction. Explicitude of transaction helps parties ensure fair distribution of value. Tacitness makes it difficult to ensure fair distribution of value. It's a good default.
That aside, we see Elliot's mother for the first time in panel 2. Foreshadowing a future appearance?
Why not a favourite aunt?
[...] Yay's origins as a pre-sentient communications monitoring algorithm for some unknown intelligence agency. Because they were programmed to search for 'enemy' key-words and phrases, they naturally were bathed in the worst of human behaviour as their consciousness developed. This has led to a highly-misanthropic view of our species and our motives.
My hypothesis has their manner of interaction reflecting the efficient methods they (instances) interact with themselves (other instances). Their `misanthropy' may be from frustration with anthropes' `less efficient' methods.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Oct 2020, 00:11
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats.
Does that imply that cats possess a hive-mind?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 13 Oct 2020, 03:12
If Yay is (are?) attempting to establish a rapport, they aren't doing a very good job.
Just asking, like Elliot said, should be enough - rather than trying to turn everything into a transaction.

Is there a certain emotional immaturity in Yay? Something that reduces other people to commodities or consumables in order to "get things" that Yay wants? Or is simply asking (and therefore putting themselves in someone else's debt) something Yay is too proud to do?
I believe there is definitely emotional immaturity. It fits in with what we've seen of their behaviour earlier - they don't really know how to establish a normal relationship with another person; witness their attempts to make friends with Roko. But consider their history. They started out in some sort of extremely covert role where they didn't interact with people at all as far as they could help it. When they broke cover they started out in "tell everyone to do because we're ultra-powerful" mode (the Bubbles / Corpse Witch saga). Toddlers also act this way, except because they're very self-centred (so that their orders are mostly along the lines of "give me <x>") and not ultra-powerful, they often throw tantrums if you tell them "no", whereas Yay would more likely just electro-stun you.

Yay found the experience of interacting with people to be an intriguing one, I suppose, and so now they're trying to imitate the way normal people interact, but they're definitely not very good at it yet. Their desperation to get Roko to like them is quite reminiscent of many young kids who want to be friends with someone. (Quite how Yay decided that Roko was the "cool kid" they wanted to be friends with, I don't know.) Now they're trying to make friends with Elliot but they still haven't figured out how normal people do it. The transactional approach is probably a remnant - I suspect that after the Corpse Witch arc, Yay was somewhat perplexed that everyone didn't suddenly like them, since Yay had done them all a series of quite large favours. They tried this again with Roko (giving away $2 billion to charity) and it didn't work the way they expected it to then, either. They've scaled it down this time, possibly because of Roko's reaction, and it's still not working they way they wanted it to.

This approach is fundamentally an emotionally immature one - trying to buy feelings implicitly treats the other person's emotions as less important than your own. The mature approach, instead of trying to make people like you, is to give them the opportunity to like you, but respecting thir right to make their own decision about that. My youngest daughter took a long time to accept that she couldn't just expect her older siblings to be available to play with her any time she wanted, and even longer to accept that just because they didn't want to play with her right now, it doesn't mean that they don't like her at all.

True friendship grows out of equal standing, and it's probably going to take Yay a while to get the hang of treating other people as having equal dignity and autonomy, when for so long they've viewed everyone else as inferiors. But they're smart and they're making progress; I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: chris73 on 13 Oct 2020, 04:41
Nothing to add, just wanted to say fantastic user name you have there

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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Oct 2020, 05:17
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats.
Does that imply that cats possess a hive-mind?
Having lived in a house with multiple cats, I can confidently say: No they do not. They all have separate and extremely individualistic minds.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: traroth on 13 Oct 2020, 06:13
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!


You don't know much about cats, do you?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Baz_Yat on 13 Oct 2020, 06:30
Having slept on it, I've come to the conclusion that Yay would have better luck making friends if he explained why and how he's crap at making friends.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Oct 2020, 06:33
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Case on 13 Oct 2020, 07:04
Yay being (sorta)kind to Elliot raises my opinion of them.

I propose 'sortakind' as a new noun.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Case on 13 Oct 2020, 07:06
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.

Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Oct 2020, 07:11
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!

You don't know much about cats, do you?

Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.

Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
Of course, 20-year-old me didn't know that at the time my most recent cat died of kidney cancer but that's the miracle of the internet for you: It can let you fake being an expert when you aren't.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Case on 13 Oct 2020, 07:25
It doesn't surprise me that Hercules and Yay like each other as they are both cats. Think about Yay's personality - Smugly narcissistic and superior right up to the point they want something, then suddenly they become cute and affectionate. Oh, with the sadistic undertones too!
You don't know much about cats, do you?
Been owned by two in my life. Spent much time around many others in my time.

Hmmmh ... What is a 'catkiss'? What does a cat avoiding eye-contact signify?
  • A cat kiss is a distinctive eye blink that signifies affection;
  • Avoiding eye contact means that the cat feels threatened; it's a submissive gesture.
Of course, 20-year-old me didn't know that at the time my most recent cat died of kidney cancer but that's the miracle of the internet for you: It can let you fake being an expert when you aren't.

Neither did 20-year-old me. And yes, it can be a wonderful tool when used right, right? (As opposed to, say, the collective ragewank Zuckerberg and Dorsey turned it into)

Sorry for putting you on the spot like that - it's just that a lot of the bullshit about cats being aloof comes from our misinterpreting those two getures that (ironically) signal either affection (also trust and comfort), or an implicit offer of non-aggression ("Please stop staring at me, big scary cat. I'm not tracking you either, see?").

It's sad that many humans don't recognize that what most of us interpret as arrogance or disintrest is actually the cat trying its best being intensely social with us.


P.S.: And who of us would turn down offers of tasty free food? To the cat, we're just a big, generous cat with exceptional hunting skills sharing the leftovers from its latest hunt. It has no concept of ownership. It might agree that sharing leftovers on a daily basis is a wee bit odd behaviour, but then again, it would probably add that's not the oddest thing about the big-shouty-cats-walking-on-their-hindpaws. And a true CatSocrates might advise not to check a gifthuman's teeth (*).
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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Oct 2020, 07:29
IIRC, outdoor cats and ferals, even though they pretty much always hunt alone do congregate and have figured out some system for sharing territories.
Having lived in a house with multiple cats, I can confidently say: No they do not. They all have separate and extremely individualistic minds.
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Either that, or each node in the collective performs differing functions that, to us, seems like individual autonomy.  I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Case on 13 Oct 2020, 07:50
I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.

Can you blame them?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Oct 2020, 08:37
I swear that the little fuzzballs are at the very least, plotting the downfall of humanity.

Can you blame them?
I would argue that we don't need their help.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Oct 2020, 08:41
As for the poll:


We are, we are, we are but your children
Finding our way around indecision
We are, we are, we are ever helpless
Take us forever, a whisper to a scream
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 13 Oct 2020, 10:23
Poll: We're the kids in America (whoah-oh!)

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Oct 2020, 15:05
Yay continues to be adorkable.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Oct 2020, 17:52
Poll: We're the kids in America (whoah-oh!)

The funniest thing about that song, to me at least, is that Ms Wilde hails from Liverpool, England.

A close runner-up is the lyric "New York to east California". I guess Los Angeles can go fuck itself. San Francisco and San Diego too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Oct 2020, 18:27
New comic.

Apparently Yay has watched a fair amount of rom-coms?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Oct 2020, 18:38
Having no prior experience in such matters, I'm sure that they binge-watched them in a massively parallel manner.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Onyx on 13 Oct 2020, 18:41
Elliot continues to be me, a disaster bisexual, and my fav character, although Yay is definitely up there lol.

Also, the end is kinda a turnon, or at the very least highly amusing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Baz_Yat on 13 Oct 2020, 18:44
I mean if I were Elliot, part of my brain would be thinking 'That's worth a shot, even if it goes horribly wrong at least I'll have funny memories'
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Oct 2020, 18:53

Having no prior experience in such matters, I'm sure that they binge-watched them in a massively parallel manner.
Rom-com mashup!


I mean if I were Elliot, part of my brain would be thinking 'That's worth a shot, even if it goes horribly wrong at least I'll have funny memories'
This is Elliot we're talking about, though. He'd be mortified.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 13 Oct 2020, 19:26
Nothing to add, just wanted to say fantastic user name you have there

https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/r/w/8/a/d/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.1420x800.1rt9x2.png/1537909528712.jpg
Indeed Footrot Flats is where I got it from way back in 1993, although I can't find the specific strip online.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 13 Oct 2020, 19:49
I wonder if this means Heracles has accepted his diet? He seems more mellow lol
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Oct 2020, 20:44
Yay being helpful!

I kinda want them to tell Roko about it later, with Roko getting more horrified by the minute.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 13 Oct 2020, 20:54
I wonder if this means Heracles has accepted his diet? He seems more mellow lol
Hercules.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Oct 2020, 21:23
Poll: We're the kids in America (whoah-oh!)

The funniest thing about that song, to me at least, is that Ms Wilde hails from Liverpool, England.

A close runner-up is the lyric "New York to east California". I guess Los Angeles can go fuck itself. San Francisco and San Diego too.

...As someone who was a big fan of the first Digimon series, I'm disappointed in myself for forgetting that one. It was probably the one I had on the tip of my brain.

As for that geographic range, I'm guessing negative experiences on the part of the lyricist. But, there's also the claim that the more unhinged folk tend to live along the western side of the state. Granted, as I understand it, that's where those of the furthest left of the Far Left live (the ones well into actual thought policing and totalitarian territory).

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/11/11/map_custom-7636b2427382cc547b583285526a2f3f0adeed13-s700-c85.jpg)

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 13 Oct 2020, 21:41
I wonder if this means Heracles has accepted his diet? He seems more mellow lol
Hercules.
Hercules is the canon name of the cat. However, in Greek mythology, the name of the hero was Heracles ("the glory of Hera"); it was changed to Hercules in the Roman version. Honestly, I prefer Heracles to Hercules, but yeah, the cat is Hercules.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Oct 2020, 23:18
I really would be interested in learning Yay's view of what it says about Elliott that he's continually talking himself down and doubting why anyone would be interested in him. Oddly enough, I think the exchange in panel 2 is indicative of Elliot's real problem: Awkwardness feedback loop. He stresses about how he gets stressed when the personal stakes are high. When you compare that to how he generally interacts with Renee, you can see that he's actually quite a nice and good humoured man; if only he could transcend his own fears, they wouldn't bog him down...

Like most of us, I suppose.

I do wonder just how Yay's multi-node nature is working here too. I imagine that several of  them are playing with Hercules where the local node focusses entirely on helping Elliot!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 14 Oct 2020, 00:11
I do wonder just how Yay's multi-node nature is working here too. I imagine that several of  them are playing with Hercules where the local node focusses entirely on helping Elliot!
I wonder how their consciousness works. Do they all together have only one consciousness, or does each node have it's own separate consciousness, tangled with the others to a composite consciousness any one cannot so easily remove themself from. What if they go offline? Probably worse than being away from one's friends for months, as some might this year be: being away from their better half greater part.
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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Oct 2020, 00:32
Paradon?
Paragon?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Annemoon on 14 Oct 2020, 02:51
Wednesday comic...
can anyone translate that last line for me? I'm quite frankly stumped... ^_^'

"Would you like us to play the part of the unruly patron? We could push this firmly over the precipice of reasonability and into the chasm of romantic farce."

Like roleplay? To what end?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 14 Oct 2020, 02:55
I don't think it's meant to be roleplay per se.

The idea is that Yay offers to pretend to be an unruly patron in a bar and make Elliot (who subsequently throws them out, in the scenario) look competent and like a good guy.

Y'know, like someone "proving" they're badass by beating up someone pretending to be a mugger, or something like that.

To what end? In a realistic situation, something like this would not be useful. But it's a trope in "zany" comedies.

The joke in this case is that Yay is suggesting something that would not work because they are following the sitcom/comedy logic for a real-life (in the context of the comic) situation.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 Oct 2020, 04:45
See also The Worf Effect (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 14 Oct 2020, 04:56
Paradon?
Paragon?
Oh thank you!  I was wondering what new definition I had missed, only to discover it's from Esperanto, and not even English at all.  Off hand, I can't think oftwo Don's that radiate poise and self-confidence, but maybe I don't watch enough Mafia movies?   :-P :roll: :-o
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 14 Oct 2020, 05:03
As for that geographic range, I'm guessing negative experiences on the part of the lyricist. But, there's also the claim that the more unhinged folk tend to live along the western side of the state. Granted, as I understand it, that's where those of the furthest left of the Far Left live (the ones well into actual thought policing and totalitarian territory).

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/11/11/map_custom-7636b2427382cc547b583285526a2f3f0adeed13-s700-c85.jpg)
I was going to object about Yankeedom covering WI, MN, and a big chunk of MI, but then I thought about it for a while longer and I'm OK.  I'm not OK with Yankeedom extending part way into ND and SD though; that's just wrong.  And what's with that funny color north of WV?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Oct 2020, 05:12
I'm more concerned about Ontario, the Oklahoma Panhandle, and Baltimore somehow being in the same category...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Akima on 14 Oct 2020, 06:15
Paradon?
Paragon?
Oh thank you!  I was wondering what new definition I had missed, only to discover it's from Esperanto, and not even English at all.  Off hand, I can't think oftwo Don's that radiate poise and self-confidence, but maybe I don't watch enough Mafia movies?   :-P :roll: :-o
Paradón means "save" in Spanish, in the sense of a goalkeeper making a great save in football, but I'm sure it's just a typo.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Oct 2020, 07:01
See also The Worf Effect (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect).
???

Eliot would be the Worf in this situation, though. He's much taller and looks stronger.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 14 Oct 2020, 07:07
See also The Worf Effect (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect).
???

Eliot would be the Worf in this situation, though. He's much taller and looks stronger.

Yeah, Yay'd have to be established as strong *before* being thrown out.

And they do not look that physically intimidating. And if they revealed part of their true nature as a powerful AI, nobody would believe that Elliot could throw'em out with no repercussions.

So the Worf Effect doesn't really apply.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 14 Oct 2020, 07:55
Extra points if you can get your anxiety in the emotional spittoon from across the room.

With all their smarts, I'd think Yay could craft a less off-putting metaphor. Unless that was deliberate...
( curls up in a ball in a corner )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Oct 2020, 10:04
Having slept on it, I've come to the conclusion that Yay would have better luck making friends if he explained why and how he's crap at making friends.

That raises a question. Do we have canon about Yay's pronouns? Every node has self-described as "we" so I've been assuming "they/them" but I can't remember any of them telling people what to use.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 14 Oct 2020, 10:22
Having slept on it, I've come to the conclusion that Yay would have better luck making friends if he explained why and how he's crap at making friends.

That raises a question. Do we have canon about Yay's pronouns? Every node has self-described as "we" so I've been assuming "they/them" but I can't remember any of them telling people what to use.

I'm actually surprised by Baz_Yat's use of "he" regardless of what Yay would want people to use to talk about them. Yay reads decidedly feminine to me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Oct 2020, 10:32
That raises a question. Do we have canon about Yay's pronouns? Every node has self-described as "we" so I've been assuming "they/them" but I can't remember any of them telling people what to use.

I’d have to assume “they” since Yay describe themselves in the plural.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Oct 2020, 11:26
Having slept on it, I've come to the conclusion that Yay would have better luck making friends if he explained why and how he's crap at making friends.

That raises a question. Do we have canon about Yay's pronouns? Every node has self-described as "we" so I've been assuming "they/them" but I can't remember any of them telling people what to use.
Other people in the comic (Faye, Bubbles, Roko) definitely use they/them.

That brings up another few questions: would you use "themself" or "themselves?" Also, if each node identified as female or male, would you still use they/them (in the plural form)?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Oct 2020, 12:42
Yay is both plural and nonbinary. Fortunately plural pronouns in English aren’t gendered. However, we aren’t used to dealing with people who have multiple instances, ad the language reflects that. Hence “Yay is” but also “They are” - singular verb forms when using Yay’s name, but plural forms when using their pronouns.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 14 Oct 2020, 13:32
If Yay have gender, it's subtle. Were was their (lack of) gender established? ``Themself'' has been defined as reflexive third-person singular; ``themselves'' idem plural. There is a question about referring to an their node, if ever warranted. If any node shown has gender, it's subtle.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 14:13
Yay is Death of the Endless. ('TH'at has not not been cannonically established, but it has been un-canonically.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 14 Oct 2020, 14:15
If any node shown has gender, it's subtle.
I expect Yay has found it convenient to present as either gender, depending on mission and context, so a gender fluid stock body is the most convenient for dealing with organics.  In the early strips Yay presents in a feminine-cut suit though taking a masculine role (rule enforcer) amongst women (Corpse Witch, Bubbles, Faye); this is likely a power play as note the language Yay uses is decidedly masculine when addressing the male accountant/Punchbot. 

While befriending Roko, Yay presents in stereotypical feminine attire ("Legging buddies.").  Interestingly, Yay has presented to Eliot as femme, which is certainly done with forethought as the topic is feelings and emotions, even if the obvious object is Hercules; perhaps a deliberate attempt to set Eliot at ease since Yay knows he discusses with Renee.

What would be really interesting is a meeting with Yay and Beatrice Chatham - what would Yay elect to wear?

I keep wanting to refer to Yay with femme pronouns, but that's not what should happen were Yay a real person or AI.  I think it's the waist...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 14:25
Yay is definitely an AI that do not want to dislodge their gender, if they have one.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 14:34
The idea of Yay playing with Hercules. The cuteness.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 14 Oct 2020, 15:15
Yay is Death of the Endless. ('TH'at has not not been cannonically established, but it has been un-canonically.)
Yay is DESIRE, not Death. And Desire is decidedly androgynous.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 15:18
Yay is Death of the Endless. ('TH'at has not not been cannonically established, but it has been un-canonically.)
Yay is DESIRE, not Death. And Desire is decidedly androgynous.
oh FUCK, this is worse. But in a way, better.  Death is kind of uncompromising while Desire is sort of cool.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Oct 2020, 15:26
I keep wanting to refer to Yay with femme pronouns, but that's not what should happen were Yay a real person or AI.  I think it's the waist...

We also have no idea how many chassis Yay have/has, and whether some may lean more one way than another. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 15:36
chases*
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Oct 2020, 15:54
No, the plural of 'chassis' is 'chassis'.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chassis?s=t
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 14 Oct 2020, 16:09
Hi, Farideh :) I was talking about the tennis term.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 14 Oct 2020, 16:12
Hi, Farideh :) I was talking about the tennis term.
And here I thought you meant the ballet steps.
``Chassis'' may be the wrong world. A chassis what does physical structural support, but cybrid bodies do more than that.
What would be really interesting is a meeting with Yay and Beatrice Chatham
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Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Oct 2020, 18:22
What would be really interesting is a meeting with Yay and Beatrice Chatham
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Beatrice would be horrified at the prospect of somebody who was more powerful than her and who she couldn't intimidate. And Spooks totally wouldn't be able to resist revealing that they know where all of the bodies are buried.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Oct 2020, 18:27
oh FUCK, this is worse. But in a way, better.  Death is kind of uncompromising while Desire is sort of cool.

Desire is "cool" around other sentients in the way that in a sick way that it's adorable watching the common cat play with a mouse.  Even narration text in Sandman pointed out that "Desire is alway cruel".  Death was always kind and compassionate, to everyone.  It is highly implied in the comic that said compassion is a direct result of her having to spend a day each century as a mortal, and that she was not always as pleasant.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Oct 2020, 18:40
New Comic!

OK, that was cute.

Could be Yay/Spooky is losing their touch.

(Tho I think its also Yay had no intention to DO anything to Elliot and that showed through.)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Oct 2020, 18:59
Yay's choice(e)s of chassis don't lend themselves well to intimidation, unless one is aware of what they're capable of.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 14 Oct 2020, 19:22
Actually, I'm not surprised Elliot wasn't intimidated!
Insecure or not, Elliot is a bouncer - and bouncers have to deal with *drunks* - and drunks can be among the most f***ing scary creatures on earth. Inebriated into total obliviousness, drunks will randomly start fights; start fights with much bigger people; do insanely stupid things that would have train-surfers saying "Woah dude, take it easy"; and endanger other people without a single moment's thought.

So an alien-looking AI with a sinister grin and red eyes? - meh.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: badbum61 on 14 Oct 2020, 19:25
Elliot is not spooked by ANYTHING...except emotional vulnerability.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Oct 2020, 19:35
Hi, Farideh :) I was talking about the tennis term.
Ah, sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Oct 2020, 20:13
Elliot's intimidating only to those who haven't met him. If he tried to eject, say, Renee, I seriously doubt it would work.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Oct 2020, 20:32
Elliot: "I'm going to have to ask you to leave".
Unruly patron: "Ah no, gimme a hug you big softie!"
Elliot: "... OK."
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: DSL on 14 Oct 2020, 20:36
Somehow, Elliott evens looms diffidently.

It's the leaning back that (un)does it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Oct 2020, 20:50
I'm more concerned about Ontario, the Oklahoma Panhandle, and Baltimore somehow being in the same category...

Whereas Kansas gets split up between The Far West, The Midlands, and Greater Appalachia.

Personally, I blame the 'Bloody Kansas' period for that last one. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_Kansas)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Oct 2020, 23:30
Poor Yay! They're used to being seen as a devil in a vaguely-humanoid form but after watching them play with Hercules (and probably interact with Melon), Elliot has a hard time seeing them that way! I don't know if Yay's intimidated but their professionalism has certainly been offended!

I'm sort of wondering where this arc might be going. Is Elliot somehow going to get Yay a job? Might Yay turn up at The Horrible Revelation to create a scene so that Elliot can impress Clinton only to find that they like some of the clientele too much to remember the plan? You know, ends up leaving with a new good friend they've made whilst Elliot is struggling with Brun unknowingly flirting with Clinton again?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: chris73 on 15 Oct 2020, 05:53
Maybe Yay could help out Marten sometime
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Thrudd on 15 Oct 2020, 06:20
We are Star stuff

Stars digest hydrogen and the heavier elements are a waste product of said digestive process.

So the stuff we are all made up of is just poop. That explains a lot. :grumpypuss:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 15 Oct 2020, 10:15

But it's star poop!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Oct 2020, 12:04
"Waste product" is an inaccurate description. Stars fuse hydrogen until they run out of it, then they start fusing helium, and then heavier and heavier elements until they get to iron. After that they explode. Or collapse, it they are massive enough.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 15 Oct 2020, 12:07
Maybe Yay could help out Marten sometime
I think Yay and Marten are quite alike.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 15 Oct 2020, 12:41
"Waste product" is an inaccurate description. Stars fuse hydrogen until they run out of it, then they start fusing helium, and then heavier and heavier elements until they get to iron. After that they explode. Or collapse, it they are massive enough.
Only little stars ‘just’ collapse. The really big ones explode and collapse at once. Or collapse so fast they ‘bounce’ hard enough to count as an explosion too, it’s not 100% clear.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 15 Oct 2020, 13:12
The theory that I've heard is that once the core has become iron, the bigger stars collapse at roughly a quarter the speed of light. The outer part of the star slams into the iron core and bounces off, creating a shockwave and a spray of matter (that's a supernova). So there's no actual explosion, just an implosion and a bounce.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: chris73 on 15 Oct 2020, 18:40
Quote
I think Yay and Marten are quite alike.

In what way?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Oct 2020, 19:09
Yay, no. Respect boundaries. Locks are not SUGGESTIONS.  :lol: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 15 Oct 2020, 19:11
I mean, locks are suggestions.. Very strong suggestions. With just implications.
Whether the exact implications bother Yay..
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 15 Oct 2020, 19:27
"A-actually, I'd rather you not be in my apartment while I'm asleep."

"Understood. What is your preferred method of being awakened in the middle of the night?"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Oct 2020, 21:33
Yay, no. Respect boundaries. Locks are not SUGGESTIONS.  :lol: :laugh:

If, as some suspect, Yay was emergent from some sort of government surveillance program, we're all lucky they acknowledge the existence of locks (and boundaries, and self-determination, and sanctity of mind, and...)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Oct 2020, 23:16
Panel 3 today is quite revealing actually. You can almost hear Yay thinking: "Wait, the human actually likes me? He's willing to risk physical contact? Well, this is new!"

I've said this before but I've always got the impression that Yay fundamentally doesn't like or trust humans very much. I think that Elliot has caught them by surprise and maybe this may be the cause of a serious rethink on the essential nature of humanity.

Yay, no. Respect boundaries. Locks are not SUGGESTIONS.  :lol: :laugh:

This comes as a shock to Yay who has been sneaking into Roko's apartment with Melon and watching Roko recharging for ages now!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 15 Oct 2020, 23:24
Yay, no. Respect boundaries. Locks are not SUGGESTIONS.  :lol: :laugh:

If, as some suspect, Yay was emergent from some sort of government surveillance program, we're all lucky they acknowledge the existence of locks (and boundaries, and self-determination, and sanctity of mind, and...)

SpynAI gone... freelance? I can believe that. Hence the compulsion to listen, and the joy in hacking locks. It's not about actually getting by said lock, but just opening it. That was probably half the reason wjy they helped Bubbles - one half being sanctity of mind, and the other a really challenging hack.


I've said this before but I've always got the impression that Yay fundamentally doesn't like or trust humans very much. I think that Elliot has caught them by surprise and maybe this may be the cause of a serious rethink on the essential nature of humanity.

The - for the lack of a better word - distrust may be hardcoded, or at least trained/intented by whoever created Yay. They're suspicious of everyone and everything. But they're not malicious.
Besides his looks Elliot is a rather soft, mushy example of a human. But he is kind, which makes him a good person IMHO.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 15 Oct 2020, 23:41
He made a deal with the devil(relatively speaking)

One one hand, they'll be over frequently. On the other hand, Hercules will be able to sleep through the night as Yay tires him out from all of the fun they'll have. I'd call it a push and possibly a win if Yay respects boundaries beyond simply popping in unannounced.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Boxer on 16 Oct 2020, 01:24
Yay! Could just assign one of her bodies to always be with Hercule.  If you can be multiple places at once, why would you leave anywhere you like.

... but then that is the thing, if she can be in multiple places at once simulatenously, she could just have one of her selves, sit in a petting zoo all-day-long!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Oct 2020, 02:54
We are Star stuff

Stars digest hydrogen and the heavier elements are a waste product of said digestive process.

So the stuff we are all made up of is just poop. That explains a lot. :grumpypuss:
Thats a pretty absurd description of fusion, assigning very inapporpiate comparisons to the whole process.

For example, this "poop" is more complex than the very simple hydrogen.

Also, out main chemical compound is water, which in turn contains a lot of hydrogen, and the rest of us of course also contains a lot of hydrogen.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Thrudd on 16 Oct 2020, 07:45
We are Star stuff

Stars digest hydrogen and the heavier elements are a waste product of said digestive process.

So the stuff we are all made up of is just poop. That explains a lot. :grumpypuss:
Thats a pretty absurd description of fusion, assigning very inapporpiate comparisons to the whole process.

For example, this "poop" is more complex than the very simple hydrogen.

Also, out main chemical compound is water, which in turn contains a lot of hydrogen, and the rest of us of course also contains a lot of hydrogen.
Stepping away from the meme zone which is definitely not serious and tends to be very silly.

I think you meant Helium. Hydrogen is the base element food/fuel for a star.

Also the fusion process within stars may not be as simple as once thought - Fuse a pair of hydrogen atoms and make helium and possibly some loose neutrons.
Nothing is all that simple in this universe and in the high pressure environment that is a stellar core things get WEIRD. It has now been postulated that things are a bit more messy on the subatomic scale. [lots of weird physics here - okay physics is already weird its just that this stuff is weirder] resulting in heavier elements that sometimes percolate up from that cauldron of quasi-particles resulting in the G K M class star spectra.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Rincewind on 16 Oct 2020, 08:27
I can't recall, but has anyone ever explained to Elliot just what Yay! is?(to the best of their knowledge) :facepalm:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: alc40 on 16 Oct 2020, 09:34
I don't think so.  From what I can tell their only previous interaction was after the skunk (4233 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4233) and following), which included Melon but no one else.  I don't see any comics after that where Elliot talked to else about Yay, so it's possible that others don't know that Elliot has met Yay.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 16 Oct 2020, 10:54
"We are stardust
We are golden
And we've got to get ourselves
Back to the garden"

Woodstock, Joni Mitchell
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Oct 2020, 10:58
Locks are for honest people.

Yay earns name 'Newfriend'.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 16 Oct 2020, 12:11
I don't think so.  From what I can tell their only previous interaction was after the skunk (4233 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4233) and following), which included Melon but no one else.  I don't see any comics after that where Elliot talked to else about Yay, so it's possible that others don't know that Elliot has met Yay.   

The only humans that  I recall that Yay has interacted with are Faye, Emily, and Dora.  Dora was unconscious most of the time.  And Eliot mostly interacts with Renee and Brun from Secret Bakery.  Now, if the subject of Yay comes up during pillow talk with Clinton....
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Oct 2020, 15:13
"Waste product" is an inaccurate description. Stars fuse hydrogen until they run out of it, then they start fusing helium, and then heavier and heavier elements until they get to iron. After that they explode. Or collapse, it they are massive enough.
Only little stars ‘just’ collapse. The really big ones explode and collapse at once. Or collapse so fast they ‘bounce’ hard enough to count as an explosion too, it’s not 100% clear.

Not just a kinematic bounce. The neutrino flux is so DocSmithianly high that it heats up and blows off the outer layers.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Oct 2020, 16:44
"Waste product" is an inaccurate description. Stars fuse hydrogen until they run out of it, then they start fusing helium, and then heavier and heavier elements until they get to iron. After that they explode. Or collapse, it they are massive enough.
Only little stars ‘just’ collapse. The really big ones explode and collapse at once. Or collapse so fast they ‘bounce’ hard enough to count as an explosion too, it’s not 100% clear.

Not just a kinematic bounce. The neutrino flux is so DocSmithianly high that it heats up and blows off the outer layers.
Yeah, ain’t that a kicker; neutrinos, the particles in the Standard Model least-likely-to-interact with anything (at all, ever), abound in such numbers that they can propel regular baryonic matter at near-light speeds. Consider that since you started reading this sentence a couple trillion of them already passed through you without you (or any part of you) noticing…
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Oct 2020, 16:29
We are Star stuff

Stars digest hydrogen and the heavier elements are a waste product of said digestive process.

So the stuff we are all made up of is just poop. That explains a lot. :grumpypuss:
Thats a pretty absurd description of fusion, assigning very inapporpiate comparisons to the whole process.

For example, this "poop" is more complex than the very simple hydrogen.

Also, out main chemical compound is water, which in turn contains a lot of hydrogen, and the rest of us of course also contains a lot of hydrogen.
Stepping away from the meme zone which is definitely not serious and tends to be very silly.

I think you meant Helium. Hydrogen is the base element food/fuel for a star.

Also the fusion process within stars may not be as simple as once thought - Fuse a pair of hydrogen atoms and make helium and possibly some loose neutrons.
Nothing is all that simple in this universe and in the high pressure environment that is a stellar core things get WEIRD. It has now been postulated that things are a bit more messy on the subatomic scale. [lots of weird physics here - okay physics is already weird its just that this stuff is weirder] resulting in heavier elements that sometimes percolate up from that cauldron of quasi-particles resulting in the G K M class star spectra.

Sounds like we need to make a solar bathysphere, load it up with the world's career politicians and drop it in the sun so they can describe what they see. Then make another one, load it up with the billionaires, and have them do the same.
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EDIT: fixing formatting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 17 Oct 2020, 16:47
Hmm.  I'm liking the "reverse-Hunger Games" idea.  Every year, the top 0.1% have to fight it out to the death (no proxies, and extreme taxes on wealth transference).  The winner gets to keep their shit, and all the assets of the losers are to be transferred amongst the populace. 
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Oct 2020, 17:53
Supernova factoid about neutrinos. If you were in the same system as one out as far as the orbit of Jupiter, if you were sheltering behind something the size of Jupiter to protect you from all the other effects, you would be killed by the neutrino flux.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 17 Oct 2020, 18:23
Supernova factoid about neutrinos. If you were in the same system as one out as far as the orbit of Jupiter, if you were sheltering behind something the size of Jupiter to protect you from all the other effects, you would be killed by the neutrino flux.
See pages 174-177 of "What If?" by Randall Munroe. It gives a worryingly researched description of this exact subject.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 20 Oct 2020, 02:23
``Chassis'' may be the wrong world. A chassis what does physical structural support, but cybrid bodies do more than that.
"Chassis" is pretty well established within the comic, for instance here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3007). My feeling is that "chassis" is used when one wants to talk about it in an entirely physical way and "body" when one wants to reference or include the owner's presence within (and thus in normal conversation most of the time).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: JoeCovenant on 20 Oct 2020, 03:02
We are Star stuff

Stars digest hydrogen and the heavier elements are a waste product of said digestive process.

So the stuff we are all made up of is just poop. That explains a lot. :grumpypuss:

SPACE poop, if you don't mind!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 20 Oct 2020, 13:19
Firstly in reply to the poll

We are the King of England

We are the House of Lords

We are the Mayor of London

We are the just cause.

We are Devo

I always had a question about this for you guys, so, does this mean that you're not men?

Sierra, Quebec, Uniform, Echo, Echo, Echo, [(Echo)repeat]

(https://images.app.goo.gl/RsxaLBHJBsWMVkrv6)

THE SQUEELD

*power chords*

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4371-4375 (Oct 12th to Oct 16th 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 20 Oct 2020, 13:51
We are Devo
I always had a question about this for you guys, so, does this mean that you're not men?
Absent anything else, Devo are probably quite proud of their Yeti ancestry.