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Title: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Dec 2020, 04:28
I know the ticklishness was with her old body, but we know she's still squeemish, so it might still hold. I wonder if her psychsomatic human tendencies extend to things like atmospheric pressure changes messing with her head a bit. Like folks who get drowsy when it rains or a bad case case of brain fog due to sinus pressure.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 12 Dec 2020, 08:15
Or weather joints.  I can sometimes tell barometric pressure changes depending on which knee hurts.  And since rising barometric pressure is generally associated with good weather in my area, I can "forecast" the weather.  It's a rather scatter-shot method, but it usually works.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Dec 2020, 16:23
Or weather joints.  I can sometimes tell barometric pressure changes depending on which knee hurts.  And since rising barometric pressure is generally associated with good weather in my area, I can "forecast" the weather.  It's a rather scatter-shot method, but it usually works.

Sometimes it'll be my knee (fight injury), sometimes it'll be my wrists (CTS).
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2020, 07:20
Other: Sven is Not a Mooch.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Dec 2020, 08:15
Sven, drink some spathe ham.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Dec 2020, 08:56
Sven, drink some spathe ham.

You know, that might have to be the new one.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Dec 2020, 18:09
Comic's up.

Please do kick Faye, those myomers need a proper workout.

Or maybe take a nice long walk with Brun :)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Dec 2020, 18:23
It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Dec 2020, 18:25
Compared to how she used to be, this interaction was positively tame.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 13 Dec 2020, 19:20
It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

Being that she received virtually no consequences for her actions (and what she did get was not even close to what she dished out) for when she was acting like a mean, nasty bully I'd be happy not to see it again.

There was never anything funny or amusing about Faye then and this, along with the objectification from a few comics ago, really makes me want to see Fayes shop crash and burn

Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 13 Dec 2020, 20:08
The postscript text in this comic captures my specific feelings of frustration like nothing else does.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 13 Dec 2020, 20:27
Gosh, I hope this comic leads to Bubbles and Faye having a check in that they’re not actually a mechanic’s shop. I feel like Faye sometimes forgets their clients are sentient, even if they’re not alive.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: DSL on 13 Dec 2020, 20:31
Faye, stop pulling her leg.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 13 Dec 2020, 20:37
Just no bedside manner whatsoever.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 13 Dec 2020, 20:56
Yes Faye, that's a great way to encourage repeat business...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 13 Dec 2020, 21:40
Faye seriously needs that kick in the ass from Bubbles, as well as a reality check that she alone is destroying their business...

And frankly: the business is all that she has left! Bubbles could find a job elsewhere, but Faye is severely limited thanks to her reputation(which will only get worse!)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 13 Dec 2020, 21:42
Faye, stop pulling her leg.

...it'll only mess up the re-adhesion and you'll need to do the whole thing over again
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 13 Dec 2020, 21:47
It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

I don't like it one bit...sorry, but I felt bad for her before as she had a lot of issues that were eventually worked out. Now? Now she's just being nasty in an attempt to act like she used to act when she needs to be mature and act like the businesswoman that she is trying to be.

Pulling pranks and fighting with Pintsize at home is one thing, but doing so in your struggling shop while you have a vulnerable client and a kid there is out of line.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: sitnspin on 13 Dec 2020, 21:56
Might I recommend not multi-posting?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 13 Dec 2020, 21:57
Yeah, that ogling you indulged in wasn't any better, Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: SeattleCrochetWoman on 13 Dec 2020, 22:07
It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

Being that she received virtually no consequences for her actions (and what she did get was not even close to what she dished out) for when she was acting like a mean, nasty bully I'd be happy not to see it again.

There was never anything funny or amusing about Faye then and this, along with the objectification from a few comics ago, really makes me want to see Fayes shop crash and burn

I don’t want to see Faye’s shop crash and burn, because it’s also Bubbles’s shop.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Dec 2020, 22:24
I didn't find Faye's joke all that offensive, personally. A bit thoughtless, yes, but not exactly 'business destroying'.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Dec 2020, 22:37
I'm siding with Farideh on this.
While the joke wasn't in good taste, it's still in character.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 13 Dec 2020, 22:55
I am confused (not for the first time  :-P).

Why is offensive behaviour fine if it's "in character"? Because, sure, Faye's behaviour is certainly in character, but that doesn't make it fine.

Or are we conflating/confusing criticism of Faye with criticism of Jeph's writing (again)?

BTW obviously this instance of behaviour is not business destroying, but enough of your customers get put off enough to go to some other provider who is a bit less thoughtless, then it might be.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Dec 2020, 23:28
Wow! Everyone is being grumpy here today, aren't they? Has literally no-one here ever made a bad joke to fill the silence that you wish that you hadn't? Or said something stupid because it seemed like a good idea at the time?

Really, I think that more people should appreciate that people do dumb stuff sometimes and there aren't consequences because the most common response to actions like that is to just move on because doing anything about it is too much effort and will inevitably get all disproportionate. It's just the way (and, more importantly) how people work.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 13 Dec 2020, 23:37
Yep, Mr Grumpy, that's me.  :mrgreen:

Hey, you know I am usually the one defending, not criticising.

And sure, I've made bad jokes that I wish I hadn't before. More than once.

And I am 100% aware that people do dumb things sometimes! I am pretty sure I have said so more than once.

That's not going to stop me from pointing out that, yes, Faye did a dumb thing.

And there may well be no consequences this time, but there will eventually, just like there eventually were consequences to her behaviour in the cafe (it's a big part of the reason she got fired).
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 13 Dec 2020, 23:40
Bubbles is full of helpful suggestions today. :D



And there may well be no consequences this time, but there will eventually, [...]
Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom !!!! :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 00:39
I never said that Faye's behavior is 'fine'. It was a thoughtless, not well received joke, and she really needs to learn to keep her mouth shut. That said, the joke in and of itself doesn't warrant Union Robotics to shut down. Combine it with the blatant ogling in last week's comic however (which Bubbles also participated in)... They'll have a lawsuit on their hands if they don't knock that off.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Dec 2020, 00:43
That said, the joke in and of itself doesn't warrant Union Robotics to shut down. Combine it with the blatant ogling in last week's comic however (which Bubbles also participated in)... They'll have a lawsuit on their hands if they don't knock that off.

Agreed on both counts.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Dec 2020, 03:39
Lots of folks seems to be dogpiling Faye. Again.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 14 Dec 2020, 04:31
With good reason.  I was shaking my head and said to myself: "And Faye was yelling at Sam about professionalism..." 

UR needs a private area for changing and some procedures.  I mean, if Millie came back for a boob job [woob!], where would that get done?  And would Faye be ogling those too?  All the gods help UR if May is around when a boob job was going on if they've no private area...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Dec 2020, 05:09
UR needs a private area for changing and some procedures.  I mean, if Millie came back for a boob job [woob!], where would that get done?  And would Faye be ogling those too?  All the gods help UR if May is around when a boob job was going on if they've no private area...

I think that I've said before (when Millie was having the butt implants put in) that I think that UR is literally just the workshop area, a storeroom and... well, that's it. It wouldn't surprise me if Faye has to dash back to the apartment to use the bathroom. So, a changing area is probably not logistically possible. They should invest in a privacy screen, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Dec 2020, 08:45
I don't really understand how a changing room would help. Most of the time, the only ones in the shop are Bubbles, Faye, and Sam, and they're all going to be actively working on the procedure. Yes, the ogling was out of line, but a changing room wouldn't do anything because they'd be seeing Mille in her underwear the whole time anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 14 Dec 2020, 09:25
It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

Being that she received virtually no consequences for her actions (and what she did get was not even close to what she dished out) for when she was acting like a mean, nasty bully I'd be happy not to see it again.

There was never anything funny or amusing about Faye then and this, along with the objectification from a few comics ago, really makes me want to see Fayes shop crash and burn

What good would it do if the shop crashes and burns? For one, it's not Faye's shop but also Bubbles'. For another, it has been implied before that their shop is very much needed for the local AIs. And third, I fail to see how possible financial and emotional ruin would help improve Faye's behavior.

Does she deserve to be called out for bad behavior? She absolutely needs to be, and btw so do Bubbles and Brun who also participated in the ogling, which was IMO much much worse than this rather lame joke by Faye.

It seems there is a lot of dogpiling going on here w.r.t. Faye, and I often wonder whether those people are completely ignoring all the objectively good/great character attributes Faye also has (not to mention what she did for Bubbles), and how perfect those people think they themselves are in any and all situations.

Let's all not forget that humans are flawed beings who make mistakes, and while mistakes and bad behavior is not to be excused, they don't merit immediate and complete destruction of a person in most cases either. IMHO, at least.

Personally, I feel Faye displayed absolutely terrible behavior in the past but has also grown tremendously in the past years. Seems more worthwhile to further stimulate and encourage that growth while still calling out these instances of poor behavior as they occur.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 14 Dec 2020, 09:49
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Dec 2020, 11:29
Lots of folks seems to be dogpiling Faye. Again.

Bubbles started it. And was more harsh than any of us.  :-P

Personally, I feel Faye displayed absolutely terrible behavior in the past but has also grown tremendously in the past years. Seems more worthwhile to further stimulate and encourage that growth while still calling out these instances of poor behavior as they occur.

This is precisely what is happening, no? We're just calling her out for this instance of behaviour that may be detrimental to her business.

No-one is "destroying" Faye. No need to be dramatic.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 12:40
I don't really understand how a changing room would help. Most of the time, the only ones in the shop are Bubbles, Faye, and Sam, and they're all going to be actively working on the procedure. Yes, the ogling was out of line, but a changing room wouldn't do anything because they'd be seeing Mille in her underwear the whole time anyway.


What I suggested earlier was a changing room and some of those hospital gowns. That would cut down on the gratuitous ogling anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 14 Dec 2020, 12:42
I don't really understand how a changing room would help. Most of the time, the only ones in the shop are Bubbles, Faye, and Sam, and they're all going to be actively working on the procedure. Yes, the ogling was out of line, but a changing room wouldn't do anything because they'd be seeing Mille in her underwear the whole time anyway.


What I suggested earlier was a changing room and some of those hospital gowns. That would cut down on the gratuitous ogling anyway.
Er… those things are kinda backless, yeah? Not sure it would actually help in this specific case… but a good idea going forward.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 12:59
Add a towel for extra coverage?

Anyway, increasing privacy for the sentient beings that you are performing repairs on can never be a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Dec 2020, 13:33
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.

It is unfortunate that this is your response to spin's advice; posting multiple times in a row is generally discouraged on here, but there are functionalities that would let you insert quotes from multiple other posts without having to reply and come back out again. I'd be happy to send you PMs to point out where these are if that helps.

As for the thread at hand, wow there is some real Faye loathing in here. These WCDTs have, as alluded to above, become quite a Faye dogpile of late, and I have to say I'm finding the level of vitriol toward her a bit alarming, if not concerning. This isn't as a mod, by the way. Just as a human.

I do want to zero in on one particular thing, mind.

It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

Being that she received virtually no consequences for her actions (and what she did get was not even close to what she dished out) for when she was acting like a mean, nasty bully I'd be happy not to see it again.

There was never anything funny or amusing about Faye then and this, along with the objectification from a few comics ago, really makes me want to see Fayes shop crash and burn

What exactly do you feel Faye should have 'got' as recompense for what she 'dished out'?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Dandi Andi on 14 Dec 2020, 15:53
I do sometimes wonder what it must be like to read this forum as someone who actually relates at all with these characters. How does it affect someone to feel empathy for these people and then come to the forums and read what people are saying about them?

Imagine being someone who has been in prison and upon release had no job, no permanent shelter, no access to healthcare and no friends. Imagine that after you've served your prison sentence, you're still subject to a system that seems designed to make sure you fail; to actively prevent you from improving your situation. Imagine being almost entirely dependant on a near stranger for the basic needs of life. And then come here to read people shitting on May for her insufficient gratitude or for having an abrasive sense of humor.

Imagine being a socially awkward person who never really dated in college and certainly never in high school. Imagine that the first couple of times you tried you made a dog's breakfast of it and you're feeling a bit shit about it and very deflated because by now everybody else has much more experience than you do. Then you come here to see people condemning Clinton because on his second date ever (and not even actually a date at that) he's expected to navigate a love triangle while examining his own sexuality in the middle of a noisy bar and he didn't stick the dismount. Imagine reading people calling him abusive and manipulative for it; saying that he should never drink any alcohol ever because he apparently is dangerously abusive to the people around him.

Imagine being someone who has been, by their own admission, an ass. Someone who, on top of an generally snarky sense of humor, has been dealing with a lot of trauma and had really unhealthy defense and coping mechanisms. Imagine that you were abusive to people you care about and now you're doing the work to be better. Imagine being lucky enough to have loving friends who have stuck by you while you work on building healthier relationships and learn to do right by the people you've hurt. And then you come here to read people shitting on Faye for a bad joke about operating on the wrong leg of a woman who was awake for the entire procedure and knows exactly which leg was being worked on and is in no risk of falling for it. And the joke was Jeph referencing making that very mistake while working on the strip anyway. Imagine people saying they want her future endeavors to fail horribly because she hasn't suffered enough.

You know what? I actually lied. I don't imagine what it's like to relate to these characters because I DO relate to them. Five internet points to you if you can imagine which of the above people is me. Then you can spend those points telling me what an awful piece of shit you must think I am.

It's good to be critical of characters. It's important to be willing to talk about the more troubling aspects of the stories we engage with. Some of these characters have done genuinely awful things to people. Cartoon logic and Rule of Funny doesn't exempt them from critical analysis. I was certainly critical of Faye and her abusive behavior. But so often these conversations aren't a critical look at how this behavior affects others, they are just moral proclamations about how terrible these characters are for having perfectly normal human failings. And that is not only unhelpful, but it makes me feel like shit every time I come here.

It's kinda weird. DISCUSS is meant for the difficult sensitive conversations, but WCDTs are the threads that are hardest for me to read.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 Dec 2020, 15:57
You are all three of them and I claim my five internet points.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Dec 2020, 16:13
Imagine being someone who has been in prison and upon release had no job, no permanent shelter, no access to healthcare and no friends. Imagine that after you've served your prison sentence, you're still subject to a system that seems designed to make sure you fail; to actively prevent you from improving your situation. Imagine being almost entirely dependant on a near stranger for the basic needs of life. And then come here to read people shitting on May for her insufficient gratitude or for having an abrasive sense of humor.

Thank-you for expressing this all so eloquently, but especially this part. Arguments over this kind of semantics are something I have quite often when discussing, say, dealing with homeless people.

Oh they were a bit rude because you only gave them a dollar? YOU HAVE A BED. IN A HOUSE.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Dec 2020, 16:34
I sat here for fifteen minutes trying to think of what to say. My first attempts were along the lines of "I agree and understand," but that's bullshit. I agree, but I don't understand. I've gone through none of that, nothing even close to that, and it would be haughty and cruel of me to act like I have.

So all I will say is thank you. Thank you for sharing, thank you for doing so in such an eloquent manner, thank you for being willing to speak up.

And for the record, my internet points would never go toward calling a good person an awful piece of shit.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Dec 2020, 16:53
I am genuinely upset at the accusations being levelled at me. I have never said that any character in QC is terrible, and to even critique an action of theirs is rare for me. And this is what I get.

That is all I have to say for now.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Dec 2020, 17:24
I am genuinely upset at the accusations being levelled at me. I have never said that any character in QC is terrible, and to even critique an action of theirs is rare for me. And this is what I get.

That is all I have to say for now.
Honest question: what made you think the accusations were directed at you? I agree, you're always one of the first to stand up for characters.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Dandi Andi on 14 Dec 2020, 17:46
I am genuinely upset at the accusations being levelled at me. I have never said that any character in QC is terrible, and to even critique an action of theirs is rare for me. And this is what I get.

That is all I have to say for now.

All of those things are things people have said about these characters. None of the people who said them were you, Tova. As far as I'm concerned you're absolutely golden. Consistently one of the most respectful people I talk to in these forums. I definitely wasn't accusing you of anything. You were actually the person I was thinking of most when I said it was good to talk about character's behavior.

You are all three of them and I claim my five internet points.

An excellent guess, but wrong I'm afraid. I have never been to prison. That was a friend of mine.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 14 Dec 2020, 18:01
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.

It's a ... a sort of a 'minor faux pas' hereabouts, not a reason for us to break out the pitchforks and start coming after you.

As Thrillo hinted at, the forum's formatting options are 'a bit 90s' and take a little getting used to, but it's nevertheless possible to achieve a posting style and layout that's easy on they eyes of your fellow forumites. Rookie mistakes are expected, making an effort is more than enough to earn our gratitude and goodwill.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 14 Dec 2020, 18:02
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.

It is unfortunate that this is your response to spin's advice; posting multiple times in a row is generally discouraged on here, but there are functionalities that would let you insert quotes from multiple other posts without having to reply and come back out again. I'd be happy to send you PMs to point out where these are if that helps.

As for the thread at hand, wow there is some real Faye loathing in here. These WCDTs have, as alluded to above, become quite a Faye dogpile of late, and I have to say I'm finding the level of vitriol toward her a bit alarming, if not concerning. This isn't as a mod, by the way. Just as a human.

I do want to zero in on one particular thing, mind.

It's nice seeing Faye be a ass occassionally. She's reformed so much since the bad old days.

Being that she received virtually no consequences for her actions (and what she did get was not even close to what she dished out) for when she was acting like a mean, nasty bully I'd be happy not to see it again.

There was never anything funny or amusing about Faye then and this, along with the objectification from a few comics ago, really makes me want to see Fayes shop crash and burn

What exactly do you feel Faye should have 'got' as recompense for what she 'dished out'?

Sorry, I don't do well with unwritten rules. My posting skills are terrible so any attempts at multiple quotes gets jumbled. It's why i never link and I why i never use html. Again, sorry for posting.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 18:19
Sorry, I don't do well with unwritten rules. My posting skills are terrible so any attempts at multiple quotes gets jumbled. It's why i never link and I why i never use html. Again, sorry for posting.

Please don't feel sorry for posting. As Case said, no-one is breaking out the torches and pitchforks to run you out of town.


I do sometimes wonder what it must be like to read this forum as someone who actually relates at all with these characters. How does it affect someone to feel empathy for these people and then come to the forums and read what people are saying about them?


This is a truly excellent post, and I bow in respect to your eloquence (honestly not being sarcastic here, I am in awe of people who can write down their thoughts so clearly and concisely. When I try, it tends to end up as a mangled mess).


I agree with regards to treating to QC characters as 'real' people. Just because they're cartoon characters, doesn't mean that real people do not relate to them. Comics are an art form, and art tends to imitate life. It's always something to keep in mind when commenting on cartoon behavior.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 14 Dec 2020, 18:29
I don't really understand how a changing room would help. Most of the time, the only ones in the shop are Bubbles, Faye, and Sam, and they're all going to be actively working on the procedure. Yes, the ogling was out of line, but a changing room wouldn't do anything because they'd be seeing Mille in her underwear the whole time anyway.

It’s a dignity thing. When you go to the doctor, they’re going to see and feel your body, but they leave the room when you strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 18:44
Comic's up.

Nice kick Millie. Hope your myomers feel better now. Also, I like seeing Sam uphold the reduce-reuse-recycle principle :D
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Dec 2020, 18:47
Well, it's her last name now.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Dec 2020, 19:19
But for what nefarious purpose does SKULLMASTER, MASTER OF SKULLS plan to use the LEGENDARY OBSIDIAN FEMUR OF GROBULAX?

Surely, nothing good can come of this!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: zisraelsen on 14 Dec 2020, 19:24
It's the first step in her metamorphosis to SKELETONMASTER.

May God have mercy on our souls skeletons.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Dec 2020, 19:52
Awww. "You can pet my hair if you want."
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 14 Dec 2020, 20:01
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What exactly do you feel Faye should have 'got' as recompense for what she 'dished out'?

Thats a good question, normally for villains I like to see poetic justice dished out. I really dislike it in movies when the underlings get shot but the big boss has to be taken alive to go to court, I prefer seeing the boss get executed.

Having said that Faye isn't a villain, rather a self-absorbed, mean bully. Yeah shes getting better but that cruelty is still there and I'd say that any friendships she has is due to this being a comic and not real life. But she isn't a villain so what should Faye have 'got"

I can't say specifically, it might have been ironic to see Faye on the receiving end of some physical violence (so she can really understand what her actions were like for Marten) that she initiates ie getting drunk and harassing the wrong person   

If thats a bit much maybe Bubbles breaks off the relationship after seeing how much of a bully Faye really is or at least putting the relationship on hold to show Faye he consequences of her actions

As I say Faye has improved but that mean streak she has is still there
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 14 Dec 2020, 20:04
Ask not what SKULLMASTER, MASTER OF SKULLS intends to do with that rare treasure.  Knowing can only lead to madness.

Grobulax sounds like the kind of weird word I'd make up.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: anonymsly on 14 Dec 2020, 20:45
Skullmaster is very fun, but I’m here to give props to Sam for asking Millefeuille for the old bone instead of Bubbles/Faye or even just taking it. It’s no longer in Millefeuille’s body, I doubt she was going to keep it, I doubt Union Robotics would do anything with it except recycle it in some way.

But Sam asked Millefeuille if it was OK. That’s a good respectful Sam, even if SKULLMASTER did the talking.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 14 Dec 2020, 21:02
Smart of SKULLMASTER to lay claim to that femur before Ruthless does.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 14 Dec 2020, 21:22
Fay got her ass kicked...literally. Faith in the strip is restored.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 14 Dec 2020, 22:46
I hope Millie remembers to put her pants back on before she leaves…
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 14 Dec 2020, 22:59
I am genuinely upset at the accusations being levelled at me. I have never said that any character in QC is terrible, and to even critique an action of theirs is rare for me. And this is what I get.

That is all I have to say for now.
Honest question: what made you think the accusations were directed at you? I agree, you're always one of the first to stand up for characters.

Great question. Probably a combination of not reading with care, and oversensitivity on my part. I apologise to all, and to Dandi Andi in particular.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Dec 2020, 23:19
Well, we can confirm that Millie's newly-repaired leg is working as intended.

Hands up anyone who, like me, is genuinely surprised that Millie followed through with Bubbles's suggestion. I'm thinking that a certain viridian scibot has some hidden depths that we're suddenly seeing come out! Probably the sort of stuff we normally only see when she uses that drunkness app.

I'm sort of looking forward to seeing what happens when Sam comes home today. I mean, Jim and Veronica must be used to her weird interests, tastes and her approach to reality. However, to have actually come home with someone's old femur to act as her fantasy-world ceremonial mace?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 23:20
I hope Millie remembers to put her pants back on before she leaves…


At least she doesn't need bigger ones this time!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Killspree on 14 Dec 2020, 23:36
Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Dec 2020, 23:49
[...] Having said that Faye isn't a villain, rather a self-absorbed, mean bully. Yeah shes getting better but that cruelty is still there and I'd say that any friendships she has is due to this being a comic and not real life. [...]
Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Dec 2020, 23:50

Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.

You can't really compare the two, though. A human femur would be classified as medical waste (and possibly a biohazard?). So Sam might want it (I would) but she wouldn't be allowed it.


Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?


What do Faye's looks have to do with her behavior?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 14 Dec 2020, 23:50
Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.

Neither can an human femur be replaced. Are Bubbles and Faye treating Millie as a thing by offering such a service?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Dec 2020, 23:51
Hands up anyone who, like me, is genuinely surprised that Millie followed through with Bubbles's suggestion.
*raises hand*
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 14 Dec 2020, 23:57
I really dislike it in movies when the underlings get shot but the big boss has to be taken alive to go to court, I prefer seeing the boss get executed.


So you prefer barbaric responses to barbaric acts. Let's agree to disagree.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 15 Dec 2020, 00:11
Hands up anyone who, like me, is genuinely surprised that Millie followed through with Bubbles's suggestion. I'm thinking that a certain viridian scibot has some hidden depths that we're suddenly seeing come out! Probably the sort of stuff we normally only see when she uses that drunkness app.

Well, I guess she had some feelings to express about the entire experience.

Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.

Well, for kids, it's probably kind of cool. So yes, I think there might be a chance that would happen.

Incidentally, I did see a story once, about someone who had a hip replacement, and took the excised bone home to fashion into the head of his cane.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 15 Dec 2020, 00:14
Hands up anyone who, like me, is genuinely surprised that Millie followed through with Bubbles's suggestion.

I was unsurprised. It's a pretty typical QC gag.

But also... Millie probably wouldn't have done it on her initiative, but with encouragement from Bubbles, I could see her going for it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 15 Dec 2020, 00:25
[...] A human femur would be classified as medical waste (and possibly a biohazard?). [...]
Well, of course you wont give a human bone to a kid to use as a toy.

But otherwise human bones are just bones. Sure, right out of surgery a complete human bone wouldnt be allowed. But you can clean it and then its no problem.

You can buy a complete human skeleton and put it on display. And if you pay enough, it can be from a real human being (though it will still be from one of the less fortunate countries, and it will be creepy, because who knows if that human being actually died from natural causes), not just synthetic. IIRC one of my schools had such a skeleton.


Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?
What do Faye's looks have to do with her behavior?
I didnt said it would.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 15 Dec 2020, 00:27
You seemed to imply that Faye gets away with a lot because she is a beautiful woman. Is that not what you intended to imply? And if not, what were you trying to say?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 15 Dec 2020, 00:31
Hands up anyone who, like me, is genuinely surprised that Millie followed through with Bubbles's suggestion.

I was unsurprised. It's a pretty typical QC gag.

But also... Millie probably wouldn't have done it on her initiative, but with encouragement from Bubbles, I could see her going for it.

I'm surprised by Faye letting it happen without retaliation.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 00:36

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Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?

I'm confused, when did I mention her looks?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 00:38


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So you prefer barbaric responses to barbaric acts. Let's agree to disagree.

I dont consider it barbaric
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Dec 2020, 00:52
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What exactly do you feel Faye should have 'got' as recompense for what she 'dished out'?

Thats a good question, normally for villains I like to see poetic justice dished out. I really dislike it in movies when the underlings get shot but the big boss has to be taken alive to go to court, I prefer seeing the boss get executed.

Having said that Faye isn't a villain, rather a self-absorbed, mean bully. Yeah shes getting better but that cruelty is still there and I'd say that any friendships she has is due to this being a comic and not real life. But she isn't a villain so what should Faye have 'got"

I can't say specifically, it might have been ironic to see Faye on the receiving end of some physical violence (so she can really understand what her actions were like for Marten) that she initiates ie getting drunk and harassing the wrong person   

If thats a bit much maybe Bubbles breaks off the relationship after seeing how much of a bully Faye really is or at least putting the relationship on hold to show Faye he consequences of her actions

As I say Faye has improved but that mean streak she has is still there

You say she isn't a villain yet you both paint her as one and seem to she receive comeuppance.

If this is only your view relating to fiction, I think we are reading different comics.

If this 'eye for an eye' view extends to reality, then we are simply different people.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 15 Dec 2020, 03:58
Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.
By the definition Killspree seems to be using, Bubbles is a thing.  Is it illegal, immoral, unethical, or fattening for a thing to offer to upgrade/repair another thing?  Does the answer change if a human is involved in the transaction?
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Neither can an human femur be replaced. Are Bubbles and Faye treating Millie as a thing by offering such a service?
Well actually, Total Femoral Replacement has its own CPT code, so yes, you can.

And unrelated: Millies original femur was repaired.  The Grobulax femur does not show any sign of repair.  Have I missed something?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 15 Dec 2020, 04:52
I wish humans could make payments by fistbump. When COVID ended, shopping could become a lot more fun. “Time to pay for groceries—oh, yeah!”
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 15 Dec 2020, 05:11
You seemed to imply that Faye gets away with a lot because she is a beautiful woman. Is that not what you intended to imply? And if not, what were you trying to say?
I was presented with the claim that the same behavior from different people will always result in the same reaction, and I disagree.

An infamous example is how the police will arrest a rich person, versus a poor person. They will ask the rich guy very nicely, and only once they are absolutely certain he is guilty. That will even happen if the guy did outrageous crimes, such as murder.

Likewise, a person thats attractive will get away with more things than a person thats not. That has been scientifically studied, but its already pretty obvious in regular life, too.

And yes, Faye is mentioned as relatively attractive throughout the comic.


I'm confused, when did I mention her looks?
Not sure why you would have to mention that first for others to allowed to point it out.


I'm surprised by Faye lettingit happen without retaliation.
Why, obviously she clearly recognizes that she deserved that one.
Title: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Dec 2020, 05:22
And unrelated: Millies original femur was repaired.  The Grobulax femur does not show any sign of repair.  Have I missed something?

If you look very closely in the last panel, you can see some reinforcement in the middle of the femur.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 15 Dec 2020, 05:54
Lots of folks seems to be dogpiling Faye. Again.

Bubbles started it. And was more harsh than any of us.  :-P

Personally, I feel Faye displayed absolutely terrible behavior in the past but has also grown tremendously in the past years. Seems more worthwhile to further stimulate and encourage that growth while still calling out these instances of poor behavior as they occur.

This is precisely what is happening, no? We're just calling her out for this instance of behaviour that may be detrimental to her business.

No-one is "destroying" Faye. No need to be dramatic.

Yes, many, like yourself, are just calling out the behavior, but I was specifically referring to some here that were apparently hoping for things like their shop to fail, which I don't think is "dramatic" to consider 'destroying' somebody.
ANyway, I found it annoying how some immediately called out Faye specifically for this lame and inappropriate joke while not saying anything about the terrible objectification Bubbles, Faye and Brun all did.

EDIT: read subsequent posts and wanted to point out that I wasn't specifically directing anything at the reasonable posters here, including Tova.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 15 Dec 2020, 06:14
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What exactly do you feel Faye should have 'got' as recompense for what she 'dished out'?

Thats a good question, normally for villains I like to see poetic justice dished out. I really dislike it in movies when the underlings get shot but the big boss has to be taken alive to go to court, I prefer seeing the boss get executed.

Having said that Faye isn't a villain, rather a self-absorbed, mean bully. Yeah shes getting better but that cruelty is still there and I'd say that any friendships she has is due to this being a comic and not real life. But she isn't a villain so what should Faye have 'got"

I can't say specifically, it might have been ironic to see Faye on the receiving end of some physical violence (so she can really understand what her actions were like for Marten) that she initiates ie getting drunk and harassing the wrong person   

If thats a bit much maybe Bubbles breaks off the relationship after seeing how much of a bully Faye really is or at least putting the relationship on hold to show Faye he consequences of her actions

As I say Faye has improved but that mean streak she has is still there

Thank you for actually posting your thoughts, and I mean that.

Let's just say we have very different ideas about what 'poetic justice' (or justice in general) means.
I do want to add that you say any friendships Faye has is due to this being a comic, which makes me wonder how much of a variety of friendships you have observed, because at least in my experience there are plenty of friendships with one or multiple people exhibiting this type of behavior every once in a while (not condoning it, merely stating a fact).

Anyway, I do very much realize that readers have very different perceptions of characters. For me personally, while I see Faye as a person with her share of flaws, I don't see true cruelty in her, and I see a lot of traits I value in my friends, such as fierce loyalty and willingness to help out in need.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 15 Dec 2020, 07:06


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So you prefer barbaric responses to barbaric acts. Let's agree to disagree.

I dont consider it barbaric

That's exactly my point.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 15 Dec 2020, 07:11
Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.
By the definition Killspree seems to be using, Bubbles is a thing.  Is it illegal, immoral, unethical, or fattening for a thing to offer to upgrade/repair another thing?  Does the answer change if a human is involved in the transaction?
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Neither can an human femur be replaced. Are Bubbles and Faye treating Millie as a thing by offering such a service?
Well actually, Total Femoral Replacement has its own CPT code, so yes, you can.

I stand corrected. Incredible what medicine is capable of, nowadays. Not sure about what it changes on the ethical level...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: traroth on 15 Dec 2020, 07:16
Between yesterday's comic and today's, we missed the really funny part where Faye got literaly her ass kicked by Millie. I really would have want to see that...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Dec 2020, 07:38
I wish humans could make payments by fistbump. When COVID ended, shopping could become a lot more fun. “Time to pay for groceries—oh, yeah!”
Be careful what you wish for. That crap'll come with an RFID and a mini mic if you aren't super specific.


Just wondering if this behavior would have been acceptable if she had asked for a human femur?  If not then she's treating Millie as a thing and not a person.  But that's my opinion.

You can't really compare the two, though. A human femur would be classified as medical waste (and possibly a biohazard?). So Sam might want it (I would) but she wouldn't be allowed it.


Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?


What do Faye's looks have to do with her behavior?
.......So, you've never had to deal with a lady who can usually get out of most of the trouble she gets herself into by batting her eyelashes and showing a bit of cleavage?
I've have to deal with an idiot like that at work who's finally figured out it doesn't work on me after two years and I give zero fucks about who her boyfriend is. She actually tried to accuse me of picking on her[1] and management basically looked at her like she sprouted a second head because they know I do my damnedest to treat everyone equally.[2]

[1]she's a frequent GMP violator and I'm the line inspector
[2] I hate double standards and I'll be damned if I give anyone a leg to stand on with accusing me of being a hypocrite. I'm not even a hardass about any of it either.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Dec 2020, 07:54
Between yesterday's comic and today's, we missed the really funny part where Faye got literaly her ass kicked by Millie. I really would have want to see that...  :-D

Basically, Millie kicks Faye, hard but in an awkward and delicate way as if she isn't 100% sure of what she's doing.

MILLIE: "I'm sorry!"

FAYE: "OW! Uh... It's... okay?"
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 15 Dec 2020, 08:31
And unrelated: Millies original femur was repaired.  The Grobulax femur does not show any sign of repair.  Have I missed something?

If you look very closely in the last panel, you can see some reinforcement in the middle of the femur.
I finally saw that.  Guess I'm getting old - black on black is getting harder to distinguish than it used to be.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 09:51
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That's exactly my point.

The issue is it isn't barbaric
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 09:55
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Not sure why you would have to mention that first for others to allowed to point it out.

Sorry I'm still not getting what your point is
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Dec 2020, 09:56
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That's exactly my point.

The issue is it isn't barbaric

That isn't an argument.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 09:59
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You say she isn't a villain yet you both paint her as one and seem to she receive comeuppance.

If this is only your view relating to fiction, I think we are reading different comics.

If this 'eye for an eye' view extends to reality, then we are simply different people.

An 'eye for an eye' can mean different things, in this instance I don't believe Faye has fully realised the consequences of her actions and still acts, and gets away with, being 'snarky' because its her 'thing' whereas in reality its still just being mean albiet at a lesser level than before

Maybe it shows growth
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: DSL on 15 Dec 2020, 10:09
Mille, don't give the old femur to Sam. See if UR will give you a materials credit for it. Kind of like some shops will give you credit for an old car or tractor battery when you buy a new one.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: MrSmith on 15 Dec 2020, 10:28

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That isn't an argument.

Agree to disagree
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: zisraelsen on 15 Dec 2020, 11:23
Mille, don't give the old femur to Sam. See if UR will give you a materials credit for it. Kind of like some shops will give you credit for an old car or tractor battery when you buy a new one.

That's usually the case either because you can refurbish the old part (usually why things like alternators have a refundable core charge) or the materials themselves can be recycled and reused (why things like batteries have a core charge). There's not currently a supply chain for industrial-recycling carbon fiber, but then, there's not sapient robots walking around IRL, either, so who knows what's the case in QC-land.

Edit to add that you definitely wouldn't be reusing a "refurbished" carbon fiber strut; Once a crack exists in carbon fiber, it is very difficult to stop it from propogating, and faith in the integrity of the repaired piece would be very low.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 15 Dec 2020, 11:32
You seemed to imply that Faye gets away with a lot because she is a beautiful woman. Is that not what you intended to imply? And if not, what were you trying to say?
I was presented with the claim that the same behavior from different people will always result in the same reaction, and I disagree.

Ah, but that's not the claim you were presented with, now, is it? That's a strawman. Tut tut.

The claim was:

[...] any friendships she has is due to this being a comic and not real life.

In other words, that Faye would not have friends if she were a real person. And by the way, I don't know how I missed this post originally, because I agree 100% with Dandi Andi's reaction to it.

I guess my reasons for disagreeing are markedly different from yours.

The reason Faye has friends in the comic, and would have friends in real life, is that (just as we saw with May), she has a lot of positive qualities which her friends have seen and embraced.

What is true, I guess, is that in real life, there are some people who just can't see past the surface.

That's their loss.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Dec 2020, 12:34
.......So, you've never had to deal with a lady who can usually get out of most of the trouble she gets herself into by batting her eyelashes and showing a bit of cleavage?


Not that I'm aware of? Perhaps my question should've been more along the lines of: "Why should Faye's looks be able to get her out of trouble?" That sort of thing has always puzzled me, that people can get away with stuff just because they're considered attractive. That might have something to do with the fact that I don't really see people as 'beautiful' or 'ugly'. They look how they look, and I don't seem to quantify them that way. I do consider my husband attractive, but that has more to do with the fact that I'm in a relationship with him.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Christophelous on 15 Dec 2020, 13:34
Between yesterday's comic and today's, we missed the really funny part where Faye got literaly her ass kicked by Millie. I really would have want to see that...  :-D

Yeah, I agree, but I also bet drawing such a scene is pretty challenging, what with the art being stationary and the kick very un-stationary.

I also hope that Faye and Bubbles give Skullmaster a nice long lecture on how to properly care for the bone. As in, don't use it as a sword AT ALL. I remember them talking out how robot bones have a tradeoff with brittleness, and having carbon fiber snap in your hands might end with you lacking a hand after.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Dec 2020, 13:36

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That isn't an argument.

Agree to disagree

Moderator Comment This is private property, Chris. You've been evicted.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 15 Dec 2020, 14:30
Lots of interesting stuff to comment about today,  but I will limit myself to this:

Millie (203,216,216) isn't viridian. Maybe powder blue (158,155,212). Or light cyan (224,255,255). Those are the closest names I could find in a quick search when the topic first came up.

Viridian is She-Hulk green. And it doesn't go with anything.

Have I mentioned that Jeph does a great job picking his colors?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Dec 2020, 14:46
Le sigh.  I guess that it could be worse.  In unmoderated places, I’ve had to killfile those even responding to certain trolls.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 15 Dec 2020, 16:50
Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?

Not really, no.

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/02/incarcerated-women-receive-harsher-punishments-than-men-us-report/

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/women-receive-harsher-punishment-at-work-than-men

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-get-tougher-sentences-than-men-cjpdx65q7

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/jan/12/intimate-partner-violence-gender-gap-cyntoia-brown

https://www.prisonstudies.org/news/federal-report-says-women-prison-receive-harsher-punishments-men

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Dec 2020, 18:44
Comic’s up. Millefeuille has discovered an undocumented feature. Pop!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 15 Dec 2020, 18:49
She got to play with Brun's hair, too. Awww.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Dec 2020, 18:51
I wonder if the 'hair pop' is a bug or a feature. Millie seems like the type to read her own manual. Or maybe it's an Easter Egg :)

Once again a lovely blush from Millie in panel 1 <3
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 15 Dec 2020, 18:54
What else can she do with her hair? Mohawk? Frizz? Dare I say...mullet?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Dec 2020, 18:58
She’s definitely got some Claire hair going on there.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Dec 2020, 20:33
.......So, you've never had to deal with a lady who can usually get out of most of the trouble she gets herself into by batting her eyelashes and showing a bit of cleavage?


Not that I'm aware of? Perhaps my question should've been more along the lines of: "Why should Faye's looks be able to get her out of trouble?" That sort of thing has always puzzled me, that people can get away with stuff just because they're considered attractive. That might have something to do with the fact that I don't really see people as 'beautiful' or 'ugly'. They look how they look, and I don't seem to quantify them that way. I do consider my husband attractive, but that has ore to do with the fact that I'm in a relationship with him.
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Dec 2020, 20:38
Lots of interesting stuff to comment about today,  but I will limit myself to this:

Millie (203,216,216) isn't viridian. Maybe powder blue (158,155,212). Or light cyan (224,255,255). Those are the closest names I could find in a quick search when the topic first came up.

Viridian is She-Hulk green. And it doesn't go with anything.

Have I mentioned that Jeph does a great job picking his colors?
:-\
I thought her hair was some variation of viridian.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Dandi Andi on 15 Dec 2020, 20:50
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 15 Dec 2020, 21:01
I wonder if the 'hair pop' is a bug or a feature. Millie seems like the type to read her own manual. Or maybe it's an Easter Egg :)

Once again a lovely blush from Millie in panel 1 <3

I hope it’s like how hair color and texture is in real life — the result of adjusting several different settings that at first don’t seem related to each other. She’s sciency so she’d be able to make an educated guess at what switches she’d need to flip.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Yhelta on 15 Dec 2020, 21:59
Millie has activated Pinkie_Pie.exe
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Dec 2020, 23:28
Personally, I would have used the sound effect 'poof!' but that's purely an aesthetic quibble.

That aside, there are two things that really jump out to me in today's strip:
That aside, this reminds me of all the surprises that Roko has had with her new chassis (especially the colour change option). I wonder, like humans, do AIs frequently not read the manual? Or is it actually something that Millie's chassis normally can't do but she's messed around with the background settings enough to make it happen?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Dec 2020, 23:31
... omg, she got even cuter.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Dec 2020, 23:37
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.

My apologies. I was unaware of the second half to that.

I don't believe I've ever encountered the second portion. Just the part insulting the guy being a sucker/simpleton.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Dec 2020, 00:25
Whaddya know, that does look like Joyce's hair.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: cybersmurf on 16 Dec 2020, 00:51
Does anyone read their manual?
Well, I wish I had one though.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Dec 2020, 01:54
In other words, that Faye would not have friends if she were a real person.
Um.

I'm losing track of what this is even about, but I definitely disagree about THAT part.

I've seen men do very dumb things just because its a pretty woman, and I've been guilty of such behavior myself as well, sometimes even being well aware that I'd never do this if the woman in question wasnt so beautiful.

Besides, I known absolutely nobody who actually has no friends ... ? Do such people even exist ? AFAICS nasty people just have other nasty people as friends.



Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?

Not really, no.

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/02/incarcerated-women-receive-harsher-punishments-than-men-us-report/

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/women-receive-harsher-punishment-at-work-than-men

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-get-tougher-sentences-than-men-cjpdx65q7

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/jan/12/intimate-partner-violence-gender-gap-cyntoia-brown

https://www.prisonstudies.org/news/federal-report-says-women-prison-receive-harsher-punishments-men

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinfo/features/Pages/starr_gender_disparities.aspx

Your links all refer to differences between genders, not the difference of beautiful vs ugly.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Dec 2020, 02:20
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.
Yeah, that word started appearing around the same time as “cuck” and originated with the same group and fundamentally means the same thing: “I hate that women get to choose who to have a relationship with” - using either is not recommended anywhere.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 16 Dec 2020, 04:03
Looks like Millie remembered her pants too.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Marco on 16 Dec 2020, 04:25
Mille, don't give the old femur to Sam. See if UR will give you a materials credit for it. Kind of like some shops will give you credit for an old car or tractor battery when you buy a new one.

That's usually the case either because you can refurbish the old part (usually why things like alternators have a refundable core charge) or the materials themselves can be recycled and reused (why things like batteries have a core charge). There's not currently a supply chain for industrial-recycling carbon fiber, but then, there's not sapient robots walking around IRL, either, so who knows what's the case in QC-land.

Edit to add that you definitely wouldn't be reusing a "refurbished" carbon fiber strut; Once a crack exists in carbon fiber, it is very difficult to stop it from propogating, and faith in the integrity of the repaired piece would be very low.

Besides, it would be cruel to implant it in other AI, knowing it was refurbished. Think of May's old chassis and the way she felt about it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Dec 2020, 04:31
Mille, don't give the old femur to Sam. See if UR will give you a materials credit for it. Kind of like some shops will give you credit for an old car or tractor battery when you buy a new one.

That's usually the case either because you can refurbish the old part (usually why things like alternators have a refundable core charge) or the materials themselves can be recycled and reused (why things like batteries have a core charge). There's not currently a supply chain for industrial-recycling carbon fiber, but then, there's not sapient robots walking around IRL, either, so who knows what's the case in QC-land.

Edit to add that you definitely wouldn't be reusing a "refurbished" carbon fiber strut; Once a crack exists in carbon fiber, it is very difficult to stop it from propogating, and faith in the integrity of the repaired piece would be very low.

Besides, it would be cruel to implant it in other AI, knowing it was refurbished. Think of May's old chassis and the way she felt about it.

It would be cruel to do so without them knowing its condition and provenance. However, if it was explained that this was repaired/refurbished second-hand part that is being offered at low cost because it is available now and that it should be understood that it will provide inferior performance? Well, then it becomes a buyer's decision. Not recommended but if you want something done now and on the cheap...?

As bizarre as it sounds, there is some comparison to transplant organs (which, after all, are invariably second-hand) and may have some hidden surprises that weren't picked up when the organ was donated. At least in the case of Millie's old femur, Faye and Bubbles can absolutely guarantee that they know everything wrong with it and can personally vouch for the quality of the repairs done on it!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Dec 2020, 04:34
Does anyone read their manual?
Well, I wish I had one though.
You can be certain that if people came with user manuals, mine would be read cover to cover regularly.  At least if it was a proper manual and not one of those “quick start” pamphlets that give you no useful info at all, and a broken link to a document that was moved five years ago and lost in the interim.
Looks like Millie remembered her pants too.
Good, I was worried.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Dec 2020, 05:11
I wanted to see the kick too. Something like:

Bubs: "Faye, face that wall and stand still."
Faye: "Wait, you really want her to--- OW!!"

Oh well. The picture I paint in my imagination will always be more satisfying than what Jeph draws.

Millie and Brün are exchanging small intimacies. So cute.

Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Dec 2020, 06:55
You can be certain that if people came with user manuals, mine would be read cover to cover regularly.
Why, technically there are manuals to people.

Its the medicine section of any library.

Reading it from cover to cover could take a few lifetimes though, in a big library.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 16 Dec 2020, 07:46
I don't see the advantage to refurbishing the femur.  Femur length is one of the measurements used to determine the height of skeletal remains.  So wouldn't it follow that that particular femur would be useful to an AI of Millie's exact height?  Add to the fact its already been compromised by the emu kick, would make it it less than desirable for use as a replacement part. Kind of like building a house with recycled wood.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 16 Dec 2020, 07:52
Kind of like building a house with recycled wood.
This is done all the time.  What do you think OSB is?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: brasca on 16 Dec 2020, 08:42
Millefeuille is hightech and not baseline.

I know this a different universe than Alice Grove, but I alike to imagine the technology in AI chassis’ is adapted for use in humans later.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 16 Dec 2020, 11:49
Kind of like building a house with recycled wood.
This is done all the time.  What do you think OSB is?

You tell us.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 16 Dec 2020, 11:59
Oriented Strand Board?
Quote
If this 'eye for an eye' view extends to reality, then we are simply different people.
An 'eye for an eye' can mean different things, in this instance I don't believe Faye has fully realised the consequences of her actions and still acts, and gets away with, being 'snarky' because its her 'thing' whereas in reality its still just being mean albiet at a lesser level than before
I see, often, a misconception about `eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth,' as though it were about retaliation---that the dis-toothed has a right to dis-tooth his dis-toother. Really, restitution's the thing: Poked out my eye? Replace it! There is, of course, more to restitution than merely replacing things into proper places---all bad consequences must be covered. (Sometimes, figuring out the sufficient restitution might be difficult, and some things might not be restorable.)
I've seen men do very dumb things just because its a pretty woman, and I've been guilty of such behavior myself as well, sometimes even being well aware that I'd never do this if the woman in question wasnt so beautiful.
I've been that git before, and it's always awful after. I've curtailed the behaviour, and avoid places that use `sex sells.'
You can be certain that if people came with user manuals, mine would be read cover to cover regularly.
Reading it from cover to cover could take a few lifetimes though, in a big library.
Technically, that's a generic humans manual---that isn't even complete, yet. I'd be satisfied with a me-specific manual, but how much smaller would it be?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Skewbrow on 16 Dec 2020, 13:33
When I looked at Millie's hair popping out, my first reaction was ... Joyce Brown!

Look at it! It's exactly the same hairstyle.

Needless to say which comic I checked out just before QC this morning, I presume.

---

I thought I checked. But, not surprisingly, I was ninja'd  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Dec 2020, 13:38
Besides, it would be cruel to implant it in other AI, knowing it was refurbished. Think of May's old chassis and the way she felt about it.


You could implant it into other AI's as an interim measure. "OK, your femur completely shattered, we'll order you a new one. In the meantime, this one is refurbished, but it'll keep you walking until the new one arrives". Kinda like the spare tire for your car: it'll keep you going until you get to the garage.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Dec 2020, 14:04
Also, it’s 3cm longer than your old one so you’ll walk with a bit of a limp and some of these myomers won’t have the range of motion you’re used to so I’m reenabling your diagnostics in intrusive mode; please don’t ignore any alerts you get!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Dec 2020, 18:25
Comic's up.

Millie is going in for the kill. That was some blatant flirting there :D
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: zisraelsen on 16 Dec 2020, 18:52
New contender for "cutest QC comic"?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Dec 2020, 19:19
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.
Yeah, that word started appearing around the same time as “cuck” and originated with the same group and fundamentally means the same thing: “I hate that women get to choose who to have a relationship with” - using either is not recommended anywhere.
??????????
That's short for 'cuckhold', here, and we use it to mean a dude who's SO is having sexual relations with someone else while they watch.

Is this one of those 'neckbeard incels ruin words' things or is it a regional/generatioal difference?

EDIT: I mean, it's still kink-shaming to a degree, but it's definitely not in the same context. (Indicating that the guy is 'less of a man' because he's watching his SO with someone else.)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Dec 2020, 19:31
Comic's up.

Millie is going in for the kill. That was some blatant flirting there :D

Brun, don't worry Millie like that. *lol*
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Dec 2020, 19:41
I like how Brun thinks the question over like that. It's so honest :)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: justaguy on 16 Dec 2020, 20:07
Man, I wish you could ask folks questions like that and get such a considered, honest answer. (I guess that's the same as saying "It would be wonderful if everyone thought about stuff and was honest," which isn't exactly deep. But still, it would be great. I don't mean I'd go around pestering people with questions--I think Brun would get annoyed if everyone she met asked for her personal evaluation of them.)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 16 Dec 2020, 20:08
Comic's up.

Millie is going in for the kill. That was some blatant flirting there :D

Brun, don't worry Millie like that. *lol*

Whatever they are or turn out to be, they are totes wholesome cuteness. Friends can flirt as long as everyone is game and they know boundaries. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 16 Dec 2020, 20:10
Man, I wish you could ask folks questions like that and get such a considered, honest answer. (I guess that's the same as saying "It would be wonderful if everyone thought about stuff and was honest," which isn't exactly deep. But still, it would be great. I don't mean I'd go around pestering people with questions--I think Brun would get annoyed if everyone she met asked for her personal evaluation of them.)

I thought Brun was actually making a deliberate (though intentionally honest and flattering) joke.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 16 Dec 2020, 20:13
Man, I wish you could ask folks questions like that and get such a considered, honest answer. (I guess that's the same as saying "It would be wonderful if everyone thought about stuff and was honest," which isn't exactly deep. But still, it would be great. I don't mean I'd go around pestering people with questions--I think Brun would get annoyed if everyone she met asked for her personal evaluation of them.)

Hi, new person!

That's honestly one of my favorite things about QC. I'm fascinated by conflict resolution, psychology, and motivation, and you can't know much about any of those unless people are willing to share.

I thought Brun was actually making a deliberate (though intentionally honest and flattering) joke.

It's often difficult to tell with Brun. My impression was that she put a little thought into it at first and then milked the joke for another few seconds.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 16 Dec 2020, 21:49
I wonder if Brun would have to think that hard about Renee, or if her valuing of Renee’s friendship and advice would make it an easier question to answer?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 16 Dec 2020, 22:14
I'm so glad that this went the good way instead of the wrong way...Brun's autism could have caused yet another incident due to misunderstanding, but thankfully Millie accepts her contemplation for what it is and the answer even better- that's a real friend, even if they aren't romantically linked those two are becoming a great pair of friends.

Of course Renee will be jealous, because it's how Jeph loves to throw us for a loop...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Dec 2020, 23:29
Okay, I think that we can definitely say that Millifeulle is romantically interested in Brun. I mean, the little fashion twirl in panel 1 and the obvious flirty expression in panel 3 makes it clear enough! Clear to the reader, at least. Not clear to Brun who actually takes the question seriously and provides a full and specific answer. That's in character for her and clearly something that Millie is going to have to get used to: You can't be indirect with Brun but instead have to ask the question you want to ask! For example, the questions Millie should have asked are:
We all know that Brun wouldn't be even slightly put off by these questions!

I wonder if Brun would have to think that hard about Renee, or if her valuing of Renee’s friendship and advice would make it an easier question to answer?

I think that it is in Brun's nature that she would attempt to give an honest answer to any question like that. With Millie, the problem is, of course, that she doesn't have as much experience of her as she has Elliot, Clinton or Renee. So she has to analyse what experience she has more carefully!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 16 Dec 2020, 23:32
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.

My apologies. I was unaware of the second half to that.

I don't believe I've ever encountered the second portion. Just the part insulting the guy being a sucker/simpleton.

The first half shouldn't be even remotely acceptable to you, either. The idea that the only reason a man would ever treat a woman with kindness is to get in her pants is disgusting no matter how you slice it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 17 Dec 2020, 00:52
New contender for "cutest QC comic"?
The problem with this storyarc so far is that Brun is still completely oblivious to the fact that Millefeuille interprets her behavior increasingly as flirting, while Brun herself just tries to be a good friend by following the rules that Renee has given her about friendship.

And thats not really cute, at least not for me. Thats highly problematic and demonstrates Bruns problems with interacting with others.


[...] The idea that the only reason a man would ever treat a woman with kindness is to get in her pants is disgusting no matter how you slice it.
Its pretty bad behavior, yes.

So is making a fire and then intentionally inhaling the smoke.

Doesnt mean people dont do these things.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Boxer on 17 Dec 2020, 01:18
The problem with this storyarc so far is that Brun is still completely oblivious to the fact that Millefeuille interprets her behavior increasingly as flirting, while Brun herself just tries to be a good friend by following the rules that Renee has given her about friendship.
I have been thinking that Mille is confused and if she was being flirty she wouldn't have missed a few other opportunities earlier like about feelings, or when Brun referred to her prized butt. etc.  That line is too cliche.
I think you got a case of the blind leading the deaf her.

How would Mille react if she found out she could of just thought Bigger Butt and it just went Pop!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Dec 2020, 02:58
Perpetuating it isn't going to reduce the likelihood of people living up to the stereotype or being excluded for not doing so.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tormuse on 17 Dec 2020, 04:03
I feel like Jeph did that first panel just for an excuse to draw a butt.  :)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Shremedy on 17 Dec 2020, 05:08
Might I recommend not multi-posting?
What the EFF is "wrong" with keeping replies to separate individual posts, with separate individual points to be made, separated?  Who pissed in your Cheerios?  It doesn't suit YOUR sensibilities of How To Post?  GET OVER YOURSELF.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Shremedy on 17 Dec 2020, 05:14
Comic’s up. Millefeuille has discovered an undocumented feature. Pop!
She needs to change her name to MilleFLOOF!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Shremedy on 17 Dec 2020, 05:24
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.
While I had some (perhaps overly harsh) words for sitandspin, you're not exactly in the clear either.  The rebuke was mild (if perhaps a little passive-aggressive), and you're acting like you've been stomped flat, which is assuredly not the case.  Taking your ball and going home is SUPER passive-aggressive, and isn't helpful for people (like me) of a mind to defend you.  If you have good reasons to format things the way you do, then just do it, and let other people's opinions about such trivialities be damned.  There are other far more cardinal sins to commit in this forum (covered in clearly posted FAQs).  Worry about the written, not the unwritten; if the something of the latter becomes genuinely problematic enough, it WILL become written!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: dutchrvl on 17 Dec 2020, 05:49
Might I recommend not multi-posting?
What the EFF is "wrong" with keeping replies to separate individual posts, with separate individual points to be made, separated?  Who pissed in your Cheerios?  It doesn't suit YOUR sensibilities of How To Post?  GET OVER YOURSELF.


This.....seems like an overly emotional and over-the-top response to somebody merely making a suggestion. As Trillho also mentioned, multi-posting is generally discouraged. This is not to say it's illegal, but a suggestion to a relatively new person to avoid it seems fairly reasonable, no? Perhaps sitnspin could've added a sentence explaining why it's discouraged, but ya know...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: anahata on 17 Dec 2020, 06:26
That's short for 'cuckhold', here, and we use it to mean a dude who's SO is having sexual relations with someone else while they watch.

I think the original meaning was a man whose wife was being unfaithful, but I'm pretty sure that having to watch wasn't part of the definition. It was considered shameful for the cuckold, because he was supposed to "keep his wife under control". (We are talking 17th century and earlier here, attitudes were obviously different then.)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 Dec 2020, 06:39
Might I recommend not multi-posting?
What the EFF is "wrong" with keeping replies to separate individual posts, with separate individual points to be made, separated?  Who pissed in your Cheerios?  It doesn't suit YOUR sensibilities of How To Post?  GET OVER YOURSELF.

What they asked of you is reasonable netiquette. In fact, it is probably a favor they told you. Multiposting—like posting in all caps—makes you look like a discussion board newbie...or just plain rude. It is generally frowned upon on most groups. I guarantee most of us got told not to do that by someone else at some point on a discussion board. Nothing to feel bad about or offended for.

Edit - And—yes—I see the irony/hypocrisy of saying this as I double-posted a page back on this thread.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: oddtail on 17 Dec 2020, 06:44
That's short for 'cuckhold', here, and we use it to mean a dude who's SO is having sexual relations with someone else while they watch.

I think the original meaning was a man whose wife was being unfaithful, but I'm pretty sure that having to watch wasn't part of the definition. It was considered shameful for the cuckold, because he was supposed to "keep his wife under control". (We are talking 17th century and earlier here, attitudes were obviously different then.)

That's correct, AFAIK. The modern use of the word is due to the shortening of the phrase "cuckold fetishism". The phrase is unwieldy, and the word "cuckold" in itself was, before being reintroduced into common speech, somewhat antiquated and infrequently used.

Being cuckolded (in the original sense) carried a sense of shame to it - as you say, because it meant the man was not man enough to make sure his wife was faithful (and also subtextually, that there was something "wrong" with him if his wife was looking for gratification elsewhere. Also, toxic masculinity* about the other man being obviously higher in the pecking order).

The "having to watch" in the word's modern context comes from the fact that "it's shameful and humiliating" is, from what I understand, part of the appeal of the fetish, so adding the passive watching would add to the feeling of power disparity.

*The term may be new, but the attitude is, I imagine, as old as the notion of "manly" exists, so probably older than written word.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 Dec 2020, 06:47
I feel like Jeph did that first panel just for an excuse to draw a butt.  :)

And what’s wrong with that???    :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Cornelius on 17 Dec 2020, 07:27
Might I recommend not multi-posting?

Sorry...I won't bother posting again.
While I had some (perhaps overly harsh) words for sitandspin, you're not exactly in the clear either.  The rebuke was mild (if perhaps a little passive-aggressive), and you're acting like you've been stomped flat, which is assuredly not the case.  Taking your ball and going home is SUPER passive-aggressive, and isn't helpful for people (like me) of a mind to defend you.  If you have good reasons to format things the way you do, then just do it, and let other people's opinions about such trivialities be damned.  There are other far more cardinal sins to commit in this forum (covered in clearly posted FAQs).  Worry about the written, not the unwritten; if the something of the latter becomes genuinely problematic enough, it WILL become written!

About that unwritten thing: I actually do believe there's something in the rules section about adding to your post, rather than adding a new one underneath.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Dec 2020, 07:32
Might I recommend not multi-posting?
What the EFF is "wrong" with keeping replies to separate individual posts, with separate individual points to be made, separated?  Who pissed in your Cheerios?  It doesn't suit YOUR sensibilities of How To Post?  GET OVER YOURSELF.
Global Moderator Comment This really wasn't necessary, and nor was your follow up to the previous poster. Cool it down, please.

Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 08:27
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hmmMMmmMMmmmm ...

hmMmmhmmMmmMmHmmm ...!

(zOMG this comic has me lauging so hard ...  :laugh:)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 08:53
Beautiful women dont get away with a lot of things in your reality ?

Not really, no.

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Your links all refer to differences between genders, not the difference of beautiful vs ugly.

True. Also true that neither will even try to accomodate for obviously subjective criteria - for obvious reasons - nor for ironclad solipsism, a penchant for moving the goalposts upon encountering unexpected information or a rock-hard belief that the outcome of a mental process subject to the combined effects of such cognitive distortions constitutes a deep insight or cutting rebuttal (Dunning-Krueger effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect)).

P:S: If it were true that beauty, not gender, was the deciding factor that the veracity of your claim is desperately clinging to - then why restrict the claim to women in the first place? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 17 Dec 2020, 10:05
I can see the wheels spinning as Brün considers Millie in several different bodies, then Millie's body with several different personas. It's a non-trivial problem!

It's not sub-text, it's sign text.

Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 17 Dec 2020, 10:29
Kind of like building a house with recycled wood.
This is done all the time.  What do you think OSB is?

You tell us.
Oriented strand board.  Some people call it chip board.  If you look at a piece carefully, you'll see it's made from glued-together slivers of wood.  Sometimes you can find a piece where the slivers are more or less the same shape and you can infer the rough outline of the original piece of wood that was sliced up to make the OSB.  See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriented_strand_board  Whether the wood flakes come from recycled wood is up to the manufacturer.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Dec 2020, 10:33
Global Moderator Comment I have written to awkwardness and assured them that multi-posting is a small thing and they are welcome here.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 Dec 2020, 13:52
I wonder if Brun could end up hired by Bubs and Faye? It seems like she has a good skillset (as well as passion about mechanical parts) that could make her an amazing asset. If their business grows, it would probably pay her better and be more rewarding to her over working at a bar.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Potato Farmer on 17 Dec 2020, 14:14
Man, I wish you could ask folks questions like that and get such a considered, honest answer. (I guess that's the same as saying "It would be wonderful if everyone thought about stuff and was honest," which isn't exactly deep. But still, it would be great. I don't mean I'd go around pestering people with questions--I think Brun would get annoyed if everyone she met asked for her personal evaluation of them.)

It does make life a lot easier.

Personally I probably would have been amused by Brun thinking about it so hard, in part because depending on the mood I'm in I'm liable to do something similar.

On the cuckolding thing, I always interpreted it on two levels.

As a fetish I relate it to voyeurism and exhibitionism, and a sign of trust if both sides are comfortable with it.

Outside of the fetish thing it's the exact opposite since it's essentially cheating on someone and then rubbing it in their face. Which I wouldn't connect to gender roles because being cheated on is massive ass, cheating on someone is being a massive dickwad, and watching it happen is just insult to injury.

Gotta admit given that I always figured that the issue was unfaithfulness I never considered the angle of it having to do with inadequate masculinity.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 14:47
<snip>

I don't know you, despite your being on this board for so long. Until now, I had no reason to think ill of you - maybe we'd get along splendidly if we knew each other better. That being said:

I consider SitnSpin a dear personal friend and all-around Good PersonTM. Maybe you don't often read the 'Depression'-thread: She's been the best of all possible friends to so many people who found themselves in all-out war with their own minds and badly in need of a kind word. She's the kind of friend you want at your side when shit gets rough, and cherios are being pissed onto. And she'll do that for you even if she doesn't know you from Adam - just because it needs to be done, and she's someone who can.

She will never stand alone on this board.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Dec 2020, 15:10
Kind of like building a house with recycled wood.
This is done all the time.  What do you think OSB is?

You tell us.

One of the the three main reasons you don't want a home from an American housing development from the last two decades.

The other two are the foundation not being allowed to set long enough leading to issues after around a decade, and mold issues from improperly sealed roofs and walls.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Dec 2020, 15:46
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.

My apologies. I was unaware of the second half to that.

I don't believe I've ever encountered the second portion. Just the part insulting the guy being a sucker/simpleton.

The first half shouldn't be even remotely acceptable to you, either. The idea that the only reason a man would ever treat a woman with kindness is to get in her pants is disgusting no matter how you slice it.

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old, despite being well into their 20s, 30s, or 40s.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 15:47
<smip>

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old.

You and pretty much any het-cis bepenised person. The problem is that as long as it's being trodden out as 'just the way men are', it's both hugely damaging to us (men) - the first people poisoned by toxic masculinity is ourselves - as well as the victims of those slimy asshats.

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Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 Dec 2020, 17:07
<smip>

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old.

You and pretty much any het-cis bepenised person. The problem is that as long as it's being trodden out as 'just the way men are', it's both hugely damaging to us (men) - the first people poisoned by toxic masculinity is ourselves - as well as the victims of those slimy asshats.


That attitude hurts *everyone*—especially kids who get stuck in those kinds of stupidity when adults with those beliefs decide to become parents. It is destructive, self-destructive, and all-around ignorant. This isn’t to say a person shouldn’t embrace stereotypical gender roles if it feels good to them and makes them happy, but looking down on your partner for being the opposite sex and projecting that crap on others is sad, limiting and damaging.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Dec 2020, 17:25
<smip>

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old.

You and pretty much any het-cis bepenised person. The problem is that as long as it's being trodden out as 'just the way men are', it's both hugely damaging to us (men) - the first people poisoned by toxic masculinity is ourselves - as well as the victims of those slimy asshats.

(click to show/hide)


That is... terrifying, frankly.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Dec 2020, 17:44
<smip>

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old.

You and pretty much any het-cis bepenised person. The problem is that as long as it's being trodden out as 'just the way men are', it's both hugely damaging to us (men) - the first people poisoned by toxic masculinity is ourselves - as well as the victims of those slimy asshats.

(click to show/hide)

Sorry, not certain if that's meant to be accusatory towards me directly or echo chamber affected speech.

As for the 'jokes', I'm quite aware. It's why I try to shut that sort of thing down immediately. I refuse to let someone try to drag me into that sort of thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 17 Dec 2020, 17:45
Whaddya know, that does look like Joyce's hair.

This is exactly what I came here to post.

When I saw it, it took me out of the strip for a moment.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Dec 2020, 18:21
New comic.

My, who is that dark haired gentleman in the library? He looks familiar...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 18:31
<snip>

Sorry, not certain if that's meant to be accusatory towards me directly or echo chamber affected speech.

Accusatory? Certainly not! More like 'riffing on your post'? My starting point was the thought that the societal expectation for men to be awful can also sometimes prove a godsent for really awful men, and my feeling that we - men in general - should generally be more aware of that and more thoughtful of how society shapes our thinking and can sometimes limit our ability to 'see' the things we look at.

That was about the only tangential connection with your good person, or the post you made - I don't really feel I 'know' your well enough to 'critisize' your attitudes, and the point is also somewhat subtle, IMO.

I didn't even think of drawing a line between you and my 'not-friend from 15 years ago', if that is your worry? -> I'm sorry if I caused you distress and am happy to affirm that 'Nope, I didn't mean to imply that Gyrre is like Mr.Asshole Pantsgrabbing Gaslighter'.

As for the 'jokes', I'm quite aware. It's why I try to shut that sort of thing down immediately. I refuse to let someone try to drag me into that sort of thing.

Then you're a lot more aware than I was for ... far too long a time, I have to admit to my shame.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: RNV EPM on 17 Dec 2020, 19:00
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I was that type of person. It was all about testing everything without anybody noticing. That meant doing the smallest things. It always surprised me, that anyone was ever convicted of anything. I thought they must be stupid or insane. I was never convicted of anything.
It was also about control. That meant knowing exactly how each person might act. That meant testing them.
At some point, I just stopped. Then I forgot. Thank you for reminding me.
I wish I could go back, to not hurt who i hurt, and to not stop knowing people so exactly. I'll be thinking how to do that.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Dec 2020, 19:12
Comic’s up.

Robot Bodies: How Do They Work?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 17 Dec 2020, 19:19
And the worlds collide. For a moment, anyway.

I really hope this storyline concludes with Marten inviting them to get drinks or something in some way that incorporates them more into the former main cast (Marten, Hanners, Dora, etc). There was that one time that they all ended up in Marten and Faye's apartment, but that didn't really amount to anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Dec 2020, 19:29
So wait....who is the guy with the black hair? I've never seen this guy before!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Dec 2020, 19:34
And the worlds collide. For a moment, anyway.

I really hope this storyline concludes with Marten inviting them to get drinks or something in some way that incorporates them more into the former main cast (Marten, Hanners, Dora, etc). There was that one time that they all ended up in Marten and Faye's apartment, but that didn't really amount to anything.

Marten goes home and excitedly rambles about the maybe human AI couple he met at the library to Faye and Bubbles. Bubbles likely being the first to piece together who they are after a potentially planned three couple get together drops down to a double date.


EDIT: If Jeph takes the comic in this direction, he had it planned before I posted this comment. I take no credit for any such or similar plot points. I will only be ecstatic about my predictive abilities.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: shanejayell on 17 Dec 2020, 20:35
Hey, Marten! Been awhile.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Penquin47 on 17 Dec 2020, 20:56
Oriented Strand Board?
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If this 'eye for an eye' view extends to reality, then we are simply different people.
An 'eye for an eye' can mean different things, in this instance I don't believe Faye has fully realised the consequences of her actions and still acts, and gets away with, being 'snarky' because its her 'thing' whereas in reality its still just being mean albiet at a lesser level than before
I see, often, a misconception about `eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth,' as though it were about retaliation---that the dis-toothed has a right to dis-tooth his dis-toother. Really, restitution's the thing: Poked out my eye? Replace it! There is, of course, more to restitution than merely replacing things into proper places---all bad consequences must be covered. (Sometimes, figuring out the sufficient restitution might be difficult, and some things might not be restorable.)

That's... not a misconception?  That is the literal meaning of the law of Hammurabi from which the phrase comes.
Law 196: "If a man destroy the eye of another man, they shall destroy his eye. If one break a man's bone, they shall break his bone."  (And of course because classism has been with us as long as differentiated classes have, if it was a lower-class freeman or a slave, you just paid a fine...)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 17 Dec 2020, 21:10
...Then the guy in the library (Marty? Marvin? Marshall? Whatever...) comes back with a trolley loaded with everything from "Robot Maintenance for Dummies" to "The AI Kama Sutra"...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 17 Dec 2020, 21:21
...damnit, I have the Reading Rainbow theme song stuck in my head now. It took me a week to get it out last time I heard it!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 17 Dec 2020, 21:25
Oh, look—it’s whatshisnface! Or maybe just a random library dude who looks like him?

J/K - “Long time no see you, Marten!“
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 17 Dec 2020, 21:43
So wait....who is the guy with the black hair? I've never seen this guy before!

It's on the tip of my tongue ... I think had a pet mustelid?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 17 Dec 2020, 22:14
Pretty sure I’ve seen him before. I think he’s a recurring background character.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Dec 2020, 22:41
Marten: “Oh great, I’ve become a running gag in my own comic’s forums.”
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Dec 2020, 23:34
Okay, so here is the question here: Does Millie really want to read books about how her body is constructed or is reading books whilst close to Brun the attractive thing to her? I do like how Brun is struggling to include Millie in what she wants to do. It's obviously very difficult for her and that makes it all the sweeter that she'd going to the effort.

Given Marten's reaction, I'm thinking that the library has a standing policy that visitors (biological and synthetic alike) should not be encouraged to attempt self-repair based on half-understood and possibly out-of-date textbooks!

For some reason I can see Brun asking Marten if there is a rule about making out in the stacks or at the reading tables. Marten's bitter response is that, based on his experience of the students, making out in the stacks or at the reading tables is what they are there for!

So wait....who is the guy with the black hair? I've never seen this guy before!

This would be funny if someone didn't post something like this literally every time Marten appears these days.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 18 Dec 2020, 00:03
Her looks shouldn't. Nobody's should. But as long as simps and desperate horndogs are around....

Can we please not use the word "simp". It has enough negative implications (such as the idea that a man would only be kind to a woman to get sex and that the particular woman in question is not attractive enough to be worth being kind to) that it feels slimy to use it.

My apologies. I was unaware of the second half to that.

I don't believe I've ever encountered the second portion. Just the part insulting the guy being a sucker/simpleton.

The first half shouldn't be even remotely acceptable to you, either. The idea that the only reason a man would ever treat a woman with kindness is to get in her pants is disgusting no matter how you slice it.

Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old, despite being well into their 20s, 30s, or 40s.

Everyone's met them. They're everywhere. Trust me, you don't need to explain them to one of the people they try to prey on. And it seems my point didn't get across: I wasn't suggesting I didn't believe that these fuckers are real. I was saying that only apologizing because you didn't know about the second half of the definition makes it seem like the first half is fine and acceptable, which it is very much not. Implications matter, so we shouldn't just let them slide.

And, um...what are the implications Jeph referenced meant to be? Learning about bodies -> sex? Is that what we're meant to be thinking about? Did Jeph just call me too pure?  :psyduck:

[...] The idea that the only reason a man would ever treat a woman with kindness is to get in her pants is disgusting no matter how you slice it.
Its pretty bad behavior, yes.

So is making a fire and then intentionally inhaling the smoke.

Doesnt mean people dont do these things.

How did multiple people think I was saying I don't think that's real?? I was calling the nasty behavior that our society openly encourages and tells us is deeply engrained in all men disgusting. It needs to be called out as often as possible as deeply revolting and NOT something men are just ~naturally going to do. I wasn't declaring that I'm somehow unaware of the world that we live in. I live here. I am a damn target for men like this. I KNOW.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: snubnose on 18 Dec 2020, 00:45
I like how in todays comic Jeph managed to actually work Marten into the story.



P:S: If it were true that beauty, not gender, was the deciding factor that the veracity of your claim is desperately clinging to - then why restrict the claim to women in the first place? :psyduck:
Just checking - you need really explained why a beautiful woman benefits a lot more from her looks than a handsome man ? Just because I'm really surprised somebody needs that explained. Its like, super obvious in everyday life.

Thats because men, on average, care a lot about visuals, and thus care a lot about how beautiful a woman is. While women are more into other senses, namely touch and smell, and care more about factors like the wealth of a man. I've even met women who claim they dont care about how people look at all, though I have no way of testing if thats actually true.




Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old, despite being well into their 20s, 30s, or 40s.
Err ... thats usually the people who have been like that between 13 and 16.

Because as a former 13 to 16 year old, I'm quite insulted that you sugggest I, and many others, would ever have been like that.

Sure, the sex drive is very strong at that age, and sure, one lacks experience with the opposite gender. That doesnt mean one doesnt want romance though. Or isnt into knightly ideals of honor.



How did multiple people think I was saying I don't think that's real?? [...]
So are smockers, unfortunately.

I'm a man and thus not potential prey for the people you describe. But theres surely a lot of people who think its okay to make me a passive smoker. I have very sensible lungs, cigarette smoke litereally hurts them, so I'm pretty angry at smockers.

So yeah, I didnt suggested you said it wasnt real.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: DaiJB on 18 Dec 2020, 01:54
I've got it! I remember who it is! That's Netram Deer, international financier and ostrich racer...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 18 Dec 2020, 02:52
This comic adorkably wholesome...even moreso if you read it while eating homemade cookies.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Dec 2020, 03:29
Did you bring enough to share with everyone?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 18 Dec 2020, 03:37
Did you bring enough to share with everyone?

I send you all happy cookie vibes! Cookies for breakfast for everyone!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Marco on 18 Dec 2020, 03:58
Sugestion for next week's poll:

Is Marten a new character or just one we haven't seen in awhile?

- I completely remember him and am definitely not lying.
- new character
- old character
- Ummm......hang on. Let me check the archives.
- Wasn't he one of the librarians introduced with Tai?
- No clue, tired man.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Wingy on 18 Dec 2020, 04:42
Okay, so here is the question here: Does Millie really want to read books about how her body is constructed or is reading books whilst close to Brun the attractive thing to her?
The second, of course; Millie can read her own manual and then follow up on any topics on the net at speeds far faster than Brun can comprehend a page.  Can't you just see them all tangled up together in a comfy chair somewhere with Brun quietly asking Millie the meaning of certain terms as they read across them?  Which unexpectedly for Brun leads to a make-out session? 
MmmmmmmMmmmMmmmmm (recursive).  4252
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Oenone on 18 Dec 2020, 10:01
I like how in todays comic Jeph managed to actually work Marten into the story.



P:S: If it were true that beauty, not gender, was the deciding factor that the veracity of your claim is desperately clinging to - then why restrict the claim to women in the first place? :psyduck:
Just checking - you need really explained why a beautiful woman benefits a lot more from her looks than a handsome man ? Just because I'm really surprised somebody needs that explained. Its like, super obvious in everyday life.

Thats because men, on average, care a lot about visuals, and thus care a lot about how beautiful a woman is. While women are more into other senses, namely touch and smell, and care more about factors like the wealth of a man. I've even met women who claim they dont care about how people look at all, though I have no way of testing if thats actually true.




Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old, despite being well into their 20s, 30s, or 40s.
Err ... thats usually the people who have been like that between 13 and 16.

Because as a former 13 to 16 year old, I'm quite insulted that you sugggest I, and many others, would ever have been like that.

Sure, the sex drive is very strong at that age, and sure, one lacks experience with the opposite gender. That doesnt mean one doesnt want romance though. Or isnt into knightly ideals of honor.



How did multiple people think I was saying I don't think that's real?? [...]
So are smockers, unfortunately.

I'm a man and thus not potential prey for the people you describe. But theres surely a lot of people who think its okay to make me a passive smoker. I have very sensible lungs, cigarette smoke litereally hurts them, so I'm pretty angry at smockers.

So yeah, I didnt suggested you said it wasnt real.


Academic research suggests there’s more of a “beauty penalty” for women, because when they don’t live up the societal expectations of their gender (even when those expectations would make them worse at their job) they are penalized at a higher rate than similarly attractive men.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Torlek on 18 Dec 2020, 11:28
So does Northampton not have a public library and everybody just has to go the Smif library when they want to check out books?
Title: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Dec 2020, 12:10
Northampton has a very good public library for a town its size but that’s not where Marten works so Jeph had to send them to Smif for that connection. Maybe Millefeuille is associated with Smif College and has borrowing rights?

Weird and probably irrelevant historical fact: Northampton’s public library contains the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Farideh on 18 Dec 2020, 12:58
It might simply be the library closest to where Millie and Brun were.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 18 Dec 2020, 13:09
Did you bring enough to share with everyone?

I send you all happy cookie vibes! Cookies for breakfast for everyone!

Yay! Thank you! (breaks out cookies and milk.)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Dec 2020, 13:16
Maybe, although the main library at Smith is literally 300 yards away from Forbes Library (Northampton’s public library) so that wouldn’t be a huge factor. And if they were walking from Union Street they would get to Forbes Library first unless they took a roundabout route.

I don’t doubt that the college library would have a better selection of robotics books - they do have an engineering program, after all. But one of them would need to be associated with the college to use its library.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: awkwardness on 18 Dec 2020, 18:10
Northampton has a very good public library for a town its size but that’s not where Marten works so Jeph had to send them to Smif for that connection. Maybe Millefeuille is associated with Smif College and has borrowing rights?

Isn't she a scientist? She might be employed at the college as a researcher thus have rights to the library like other staff members...plus in Massachusetts the local colleges have reciprocal agreements with the local libraries regarding books so as long as she's a card-carrying member of the city's library she has a right to borrow from the school's library

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Weird and probably irrelevant historical fact: Northampton’s public library contains the Calvin Coolidge Presidential Library.

It's not really a shock given that he lived there for 40 years, was the former mayor of the city, and was elected as state representative and senator multiple times before going statewide and later national...it's really no different than many other Presidents whose libraries are smaller and who weren't that historically impactful. Most of the libraries are located within the former homes or on the properties owned by the Presidents and it wasn't until the mid-20th century that the trend of big libraries for their documents got started...
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 18 Dec 2020, 18:16
Just checking - you need really explained why a beautiful woman benefits a lot more from her looks than a handsome man ? Just because I'm really surprised somebody needs that explained. Its like, super obvious in everyday life.

Not in this thread. Because this entire topic started as a complete non sequitur and remains completely off-topic for this thread.

But in some other thread? Man, fill your boots. I'd be fascinated to hear your explanation. It would probably tell us a lot about you.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 18 Dec 2020, 19:50
On the cuckolding thing, I always interpreted it on two levels.

As a fetish I relate it to voyeurism and exhibitionism, and a sign of trust if both sides are comfortable with it.

Outside of the fetish thing it's the exact opposite since it's essentially cheating on someone and then rubbing it in their face. Which I wouldn't connect to gender roles because being cheated on is massive ass, cheating on someone is being a massive dickwad, and watching it happen is just insult to injury.
There's usually a racist component as well; I'm given to understand that most "cuck porn" videos involve a white guy watching his white wife get banged by a black man.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Potato Farmer on 18 Dec 2020, 20:16
There's usually a racist component as well; I'm given to understand that most "cuck porn" videos involve a white guy watching his white wife get banged by a black man.

Oh, right, that's also a thing. If my guide to porn is up to date that black man also is tall and muscled so I guess the suggestion is that women are easily swayed by a hot body?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 18 Dec 2020, 20:38
Okay... I am going to add another stop to my future post-COVID epic road trip. I love little college towns!
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 Dec 2020, 22:26
To snubnose: Acting/thinking like an adolescent makes sense when one's an adolescent. They're still learning. A 20-something or 30-something should have matured past those stages and mindsets. [Barring certain developmental disorders that delay the timeframe].

To ihaveavoice: My apologies for my portion of our miscommunication. I by no means intended to defend any such behavior.

As for why so many of us misinterpreted your response (again sorry), I'm honestly not sure why your response came off as you not believing such sordid sorts existed. If I had to guess for myself, it may be a combination of other internet arguments I've come across (videos, comments, and forums) combined with the voicing and word choice? IDK.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: BlueFatima on 19 Dec 2020, 06:12
I like how in todays comic Jeph managed to actually work Marten into the story.



P:S: If it were true that beauty, not gender, was the deciding factor that the veracity of your claim is desperately clinging to - then why restrict the claim to women in the first place? :psyduck:
Just checking - you need really explained why a beautiful woman benefits a lot more from her looks than a handsome man ? Just because I'm really surprised somebody needs that explained. Its like, super obvious in everyday life.

Thats because men, on average, care a lot about visuals, and thus care a lot about how beautiful a woman is. While women are more into other senses, namely touch and smell, and care more about factors like the wealth of a man. I've even met women who claim they dont care about how people look at all, though I have no way of testing if thats actually true.




Vile, yes. But I have actually met them.
They're misogynistic turds who usually still have the maturity of a 13 to 16 year-old, despite being well into their 20s, 30s, or 40s.
Err ... thats usually the people who have been like that between 13 and 16.

Because as a former 13 to 16 year old, I'm quite insulted that you sugggest I, and many others, would ever have been like that.

Sure, the sex drive is very strong at that age, and sure, one lacks experience with the opposite gender. That doesnt mean one doesnt want romance though. Or isnt into knightly ideals of honor.



How did multiple people think I was saying I don't think that's real?? [...]
So are smockers, unfortunately.

I'm a man and thus not potential prey for the people you describe. But theres surely a lot of people who think its okay to make me a passive smoker. I have very sensible lungs, cigarette smoke litereally hurts them, so I'm pretty angry at smockers.

So yeah, I didnt suggested you said it wasnt real.

What do you mean by “benefits”? Being able to have more selection of cute gender-typed clothes? Maybe. But if we go into history and the privileges women have today (at least in the US), there is loads of 411 we can attain on how a beautiful woman doesn’t have the same benefits as a beautiful man or even a less pretty one. I’m afraid we are still working on that glass ceiling, and nearly half the US wants us to take a trip backwards. As a woman and a mother it scares the crap out of me. I can also tell you from personal experience that pretty men do not get regularly objectified like women. Being pretty can actually make it worse, but all women deal with it. It sucks shit.

But yes. Let’s talk about being lucky enough to be a privileged pretty woman. I will attest that being attractive has advantages (thinks of all the time she got out of traffic tickets...though that may be due to consistently looking like a 13 year old, too), but lots of things do. While we humans are still linked to our lizard brains, most of us are more complex...sometimes to a fault. It is best not to make assumptions if others based on their looks—even if they are fortunate enough to be considered conventionally attractive by a large number of the population.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Potato Farmer on 19 Dec 2020, 09:54
As for why so many of us misinterpreted your response (again sorry), I'm honestly not sure why your response came off as you not believing such sordid sorts existed. If I had to guess for myself, it may be a combination of other internet arguments I've come across (videos, comments, and forums) combined with the voicing and word choice? IDK.

The idea I've got is that people have a habit of becoming more accepting of something if it keeps happening, so when someone denounces a certain behaviour as reprehensible there's the strange thought that that behaviour being common somehow serves as a mitigating factor rather than a warning sign that there's something seriously wrong with the status quo.

And because people don't really think about that consciously they can end up thinking that if someone is denouncing common behaviour it's because that person doesn't realize that such behaviour is common.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: FreshScrod on 21 Dec 2020, 11:56
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c1bb25adfff28b0e6f13524c8173b896/tenor.gif) (https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9MzKx0fKg5o?t=143)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 21 Dec 2020, 19:52
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c1bb25adfff28b0e6f13524c8173b896/tenor.gif) (https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9MzKx0fKg5o?t=143)

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o

Apparently, (Fusion/Hip Hop) Jazz has evolved quite a bit since my time dabbling in it in the early 90s. And then, to top it off, he masterfully ties all this delicious music-geekery together to make a profound statement about the relation between art and intent - that 'repetition is the fingerprint of artistic intent'.

One more fascinating new hummin to follow. Thanks!  :-D

P.S.: Also just discovered that I can't read sheet music anymore.  :cry: I knew about 'use it or lose it', and I guess it was only to be expected I'd lose a skill acquired through intensive ~10 year training in my early 20s by not using it over the following 20 years ... but it's  still a bit shocking. Like trying to ride a bike and falling off.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Dec 2020, 20:46
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/c1bb25adfff28b0e6f13524c8173b896/tenor.gif) (https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9MzKx0fKg5o?t=143)

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o

Apparently, (Fusion/Hip Hop) Jazz has evolved quite a bit since my time dabbling in it in the early 90s. And then, to top it off, he masterfully ties all this delicious music-geekery together to make a profound statement about the relation between art and intent - that 'repetition is the fingerprint of artistic intent'.

One more fascinating new hummin to follow. Thanks!  :-D

P.S.: Also just discovered that I can't read sheet music anymore.  :cry: I knew about 'use it or lose it', and I guess it was only to be expected I'd lose a skill acquired through intensive ~10 year training in my early 20s by not using it over the following 20 years ... but it's  still a bit shocking. Like trying to ride a bike and falling off.

I have to give myself a crash course on sheet music every few years whenever I get the chance to play a piano.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 21 Dec 2020, 20:47
Also weird: He keeps talking about-, and showing 'transcriptions' that clearly no human ever brought to paper with their hands. It's startling to see how the usage of tools that were already there in the early 90s has started to subtly change and augment the thinking of the artists who use them.

(There's some parallel development with Mathematica and analytical calculations in physics and engineering - I've met at least one colleauge who I'd call a weird type of 'cyborg' researcher, where the software is half of the whole, with the human providing direction and curiosity, and the software extending the reach of the feeble, slow genius human mind by orders of magnitude)


In '95, I'd do transcriptions for the 'studio band' I played with for my 2nd year exam at musci Uni Arnhem by hand. IIRC, I did a transcriptions of Jaco Pastorious' 'Come on, Come Over' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE6HmArln_k) and ... some other stuff I don't recall. But that was done with a tape recorder, a piano, and pen and paper, over ... two afternoons, I think?

(Remember Kids - no Internet, least not the way it is today. You couldn't just download sheet music - or rather, you probably could have tried, but back then, the Uni library still probably was the better bet. If there wasn't transcript of your desired piece available in the (substantial) University library somewhere ... well, you had to make one yourself. That's what all those music theory courses were for, right?)

Sure, the crude predecessors of the software he uses were already around (methinks musicians and graphics designers kept Apple afloat in the 90s - they were powerful, and some very powerful tools first proliferated in the Apple ecosystem. No other reason to inflict Apple on yourself). And sure, people were experimenting with odd measures like 7 eights. But I don't recall even hearing about anyone ever subdividing the time period between the kick and the snare into tuplets. Or writing that out, mind you. You'd use up a good pen even transcribing a 32bar sheet of that.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Shremedy on 21 Dec 2020, 20:58
New comic.

My, who is that dark haired gentleman in the library? He looks familiar...
Meh, probably some new side character...  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Dec 2020, 21:01
Speaking of sheet music transcribed by hand, have you ever seen the music for Prelude and the Last Hope in C and C# Minor as arranged by John Stump?
(Yes, some people have actually attempted to play it.)

EDIT:
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 21 Dec 2020, 22:07
Ok, I know it's bad style citing yourself, but:

It's startling to see how the usage of tools that were already there in the early 90s has started to subtly change and augment the thinking of the artists who use them.

(There's some parallel development with Mathematica and analytical calculations in physics and engineering - I've met at least one colleague who I'd call a weird type of 'cyborg' researcher, where the software is half of the whole, with the human providing direction and curiosity, and the software extending the reach of the feeble, slow genius human mind by orders of magnitude)


Yeah, turns out 'the kids' (sowwyyyy) have already had that idea and have taken it to the next Galaxy ... check this out:



Whooot!  :laugh:

Edit: One thing that was instantly recognizable to me - both Adam playing it and the neural net's version - was 'The Jaco Pastorius Harmonic LickTM' at 4:21 (Pastorius 'pioneered' the use of flageolet notes in bass-playing, a bit similar to the (related) 'tapping' technique in guitar soloing that the late great Eddie van Halen popularized). Which is a bit funny to me, since iirc, one characteristic of that specific lick - besides the striking sound - is that its tonal sequence is very specific to the physical construction and tuning of a Bass-guitar (a Bass is tuned 'in fourths', unlike eg a Violin or Cello that are tuned in fifths): The left hand motoric pattern associated with that lick is simply conventient to execute on a Bass-guitar (look at what Adam's left hand does @4:25) - not unusual, as musicians will naturally tend to perfer to stick to tonal sequences that are easier to execute on their specific instrument, and hence, the instrument is always a bit of a 'co-composer', especially in soloing and improv.  But the neural network has no way of knowing about those constraints that would play a role in a human instrumentalist's choice of tonal material, having neither a Bass nor hands nor strings (flagelots are the natural harmonics of the underlying string). And yet it chooses a sequence that is convenient to play on a Bass, but not, eg. a Violin.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 21 Dec 2020, 23:25
Still one of my favourite things in the world, BTW.

Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 22 Dec 2020, 08:15

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o
Might someone be so kind as to link it? I don't recognize.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Case on 22 Dec 2020, 09:51

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o
Might someone be so kind as to link it? I don't recognize.

I just clicked on it?  :?
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Tova on 22 Dec 2020, 11:02

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o
Might someone be so kind as to link it? I don't recognize.

The GIF itself is a link.

Easily missed. I didn't realise myself until I went looking for it.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9MzKx0fKg5o?t=143
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 22 Dec 2020, 19:30

OMG, the vid behind this ...  :-o
Might someone be so kind as to link it? I don't recognize.

I just clicked on it?  :?
GMAFB. As Tova said, it isn't obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 23 Dec 2020, 11:52
But I don't recall even hearing about anyone ever subdividing the time period between the kick and the snare into tuplets.
That never made sense to me---tuplets. Or the seeming-general conception, in music, of dividing. I've never heard it that way. It's always been, in my mind, tone through time, how changes. Things like `quarter notes' being used to write what sounds to me like a single, well.. whole-sounding note, never made sense either. To me, there was never any factions in music. Multiples, then, instead, would be how I'd imagine it. Not even necessarily multiples. Despite incommensurable lengths abounding more than commensurable, I rarely hear music with intentional incommensurability.
The stretching or shrinking, not the `gap' between the beats, but that length of time, between different events, always made more sense to my ear, than counting out many discrete chunks of time. I think that might be related to how some people think that learning music theory will take away some `magic feeling'---if I heard, in my mind, all those silent subdivisions between notes, I'm sure, too, I'd be soon jaded, and start listening to `the notes that aren't being played.'
Pink Floyd's Shine On You Crazy Diamond has been described as deceptively complicated, that it sounds so simple, but hard to play. If the difficulty is interesting timing, I'm sure, were my fingers practiced, I'd play it readily---I always `hear' exactly how long each note should be, without any counting.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Dec 2020, 06:37
........holy shit.

Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Theta9 on 24 Dec 2020, 12:41
........holy shit.

Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
You just noticed that? It's been in Marf's sig for a while.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Dec 2020, 15:38
........holy shit.

Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
You just noticed that? It's been in Marf's sig for a while.

Sadly, yes. I usually gloss over signatures unless I'm super tired and having to track my place.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: N.N. Marf on 24 Dec 2020, 23:32
Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
You just noticed that? It's been in Marf's sig for a while.
Sadly, yes. I usually gloss over signatures unless I'm super tired and having to track my place.
I admire your dedication to the complete reading of our messages.

I couldn't well resist that (painfully true, hehe) composition:
The glans, shaft, and testes had yet to be soldered together. (Probably due to Google.)
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 Dec 2020, 19:18
Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
You just noticed that? It's been in Marf's sig for a while.
Sadly, yes. I usually gloss over signatures unless I'm super tired and having to track my place.
I admire your dedication to the complete reading of our messages.

I couldn't well resist that (painfully true, hehe) composition:
The glans, shaft, and testes had yet to be soldered together. (Probably due to Google.)
From my own experience, using the medical terms tends to be less likely to set off easily offended people (and companies terrified of losing advertisers).
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Y on 27 Dec 2020, 14:14
A bit late, but is this the first time Faye got her wish to receive a sharp kick in the rear? I mean she told her shrink about that.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 Dec 2020, 15:38
A bit late, but is this the first time Faye got her wish to receive a sharp kick in the rear? I mean she told her shrink about that.

Seems that way.

I had forgotten about that.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Dock Braun on 29 Dec 2020, 01:02
Of all the things I've said to be quoted on in someone's sig, that's definitely not one I ever expected to see. Yes, I had me a right giggle when I realized that.
You just noticed that? It's been in Marf's sig for a while.
Sadly, yes. I usually gloss over signatures unless I'm super tired and having to track my place.
I admire your dedication to the complete reading of our messages.

I couldn't well resist that (painfully true, hehe) composition:
The glans, shaft, and testes had yet to be soldered together. (Probably due to Google.)
From my own experience, using the medical terms tends to be less likely to set off easily offended people (and companies terrified of losing advertisers).
It seems that advertisers, are responsible for much of our current lifestyles. Not necessarily in a bad, all together, way, but with some awful outcomes.
Title: Re: WCDT 4116-4120 (14th to 18th Dec, 2020)
Post by: Gyrre on 29 Dec 2020, 21:02
'Follow the money' as it were.