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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: BenRG on 20 Dec 2020, 00:17
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So, this poll was suggested by Marco (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=92794) in last week's WCDT and I liked it so much that I decided to adopt it and post it. All credit to them for the original idea though!
You know, I don't know if I'm the only one but I got tired of the worn-out 'joke' (mostly appearing on the subreddits but starting to spread to here) to laugh about Marten being 'a new character' or 'who is that guy who looks like Dora?' Really, I think that the first thousand times were enough. In an attempt to help the forum get out of its collective system, I thought that we could semi-seriously talk about Marten and how to view him in today's QC. Feel free to give joke answers, if you must. :-P
As for me, I remember when he was the main character in the strip and his adventures (and misadventures) making the transition from college graduate to stable adult were one of the things that originally attracted me to Questionable Content. That said, I'm no nostalgia addict and I understand that Jeph and the themes of the strip have moved on from him. That said, you'll excuse me if I remember the 'good old days'. (Wanders off, muttering about how music was so much better when I was younger.)
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Corrected strip numbers
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"Character necro"?
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Clare?
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"Character necro"?
Bringing back an old character because you haven't got any new ideas. See also: "Phoenix, Multiple resurrections of (The X-Men)"
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"Other" (One way or another, I'm gonna make this a tradition) :-D :
Marten is the guy who wakes up late one day, after sleeping off a bender after being laid off from his dead-end job. He then realizes that he has dreamed his entire life since that point in time.
He then says 'Hey, that makes a pretty good story', writes it all down and sells it to a budding cartoonist named Jeph Jacques, before heading back to California to study guitar maintenance and repair...
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(Wanders off, muttering about how music was so much better when I was younger.)
-I- was so much better when I was younger.
Sven, drink more spathe ham.
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"Other" (One way or another, I'm gonna make this a tradition) :-D :
Marten is the guy who wakes up late one day, after sleeping off a bender after being laid off from his dead-end job. He then realizes that he has dreamed his entire life since that point in time.
He then says 'Hey, that makes a pretty good story', writes it all down and sells it to a budding cartoonist named Jeph Jacques, before heading back to California to study guitar maintenance and repair...
Isn't that how The Hobbit came to us?
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Other: Marten is the guy who was the main QC character for a long time. Things have moved on, Marten has become a secondary character, and Jeph drags him out every so often to remind people how it all began (and also to be supportive of Claire).
Also: my apologies. I did make the 'who is that mysterious dark-haired gentleman' joke in the last WCDT thread, being unaware that it was a tired trope. I won't do it again :)
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Also: my apologies. I did make the 'who is that mysterious dark-haired gentleman' joke in the last WCDT thread, being unaware that it was a tired trope. I won't do it again :)
I think that if 'referring to a tired trope' were a mortal sin hereabouts (or even frowned-upon-ever-so-slightly), there'd be a ... well, I reckon the eyewitness-reports would likely involve the term 'biblical'.
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Yeah, one person's tired trope is another's delightful spathe ham. I mean, running gag.
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I did see a few 'it stopped being funny 5 years ago' comments.
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Hey, humour is subjective. Can't please everyone.
To me, spathe ham was born unfunny, but I don't think that's going away any time soon. And "spathe ham" is almost nine years old (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27874.0.html) (check the poll results).
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Just for the heck of it, here is spathe ham's origin (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2128).
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New comic!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
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I'll never get tired of cute robots blushing!
Re Marten, he's still a main character. It's just that he's not -the- main character because QC has accquired lots of other main characters along the way, and he hasn't had a story focused on him since...I think since he started dating Claire? But QC has a constantly shifting focus as different storylines follow different protagonists. Hannelore hasn't stopped being a "main character" just because she went away and came back; we're talking about robots now but of course both Maarten and Hanners have significant robot connections; it's just that currently we're in a Brun plotline (and of course Brun was a secondary character for a long, long time before Jeph decided to tell stories from her POV). That said, it would be nice to have an updated spelling post that included newer main characters (and secondary characters) that have names easy to misspell (or not, just for standardization).
So, how connected is Brun's fascination with Millefueille's body and her fascination with clocks?
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I'd say that it is more accurate that Brun has a fascination with complex mechanical systems, and thus Clocks and AI Chassis are equally interesting, but current 'hyperfocus' is an outgrowth of this being a new frontier. Plus, this time, the complex mechanical system is intelligent, can talk back, and wants to Learn With Her.
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Millefueille, you ... :BuCAAAAAWK!: :x
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"Character necro"?
Bringing back an old character because you haven't got any new ideas. See also: "Phoenix, Multiple resurrections of (The X-Men)"
Wouldn't this be more of the bus coming back into town (or whatever it's called)?
Also: my apologies. I did make the 'who is that mysterious dark-haired gentleman' joke in the last WCDT thread, being unaware that it was a tired trope. I won't do it again :)
I think that if 'referring to a tired trope' were a mortal sin hereabouts (or even frowned-upon-ever-so-slightly), there'd be a ... well, I reckon the eyewitness-reports would likely involve the term 'biblical'.
This seems relevant;
So you're telling me a cliche comes from a stereotype?
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I'd say that it is more accurate that Brun has a fascination with complex mechanical systems, and thus Clocks and AI Chassis are equally interesting, but current 'hyperfocus' is an outgrowth of this being a new frontier. Plus, this time, the complex mechanical system is intelligent, can talk back, and wants to Learn With Her.
And potentially feels they might be moving a touch too fast.
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I love Brun's innocent expression as she asks her question - meanwhile, mortified Mille is instantly aware of what Momo is implying... :laugh:
There's a relentlessly horny mind hiding behind Momo's friendly, but proper, exterior! :-D
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Momo sure is a horny little weirdo (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4034) ;D
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I suspect that Millifeulle may have just outed what's going on in the back of her mind. It does remain fully in-character that Brun hasn't realised the implications of all this!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
My school art room had books on things like tattoos and other forms of body art and drawing the human body from life that could be considered 'porn' if you squint. Looking back it does remind you that sex (and what you find arousing) is mostly in the mind and so subjective that it's sometimes hard to draw the line.
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New comic!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
If they offer live nude art classes or have a human sexuality course or multiple courses, I doubt it was by accident...
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Back when I was a young-un, it was books and magazines on photography. (Sometimes sculpture, also.) Plus catalogs, etc etc.
Of course, this was the Old Days, pre-Internet, before they piped the pr0n directly into your house along with the water and electric.
By the time I took a drawing class in college, the combination of being able to access that stuff legally and the vast difference in context meant that when we did have live models, they rapidly stopped being people (I mean that in the nicest way, honest) and became merely an interesting/challenging combination of lines, curves, contours and shadows.
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They're highly technical.
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They're highly technical.
Will there be pictures?
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Great, I pressed "show results" instead of "submit" :x grumble grumble grumble :x
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You can click "voting options" to go back and vote.
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So, this poll was suggested by Marco (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=92794) in last week's WCDT and I liked it so much that I decided to adopt it and post it. All credit to them for the original idea though!
You know, I don't know if I'm the only one but I got tired of the worn-out 'joke' (mostly appearing on the subreddits but starting to spread to here) to laugh about Marten being 'a new character' or 'who is that guy who looks like Dora?' Really, I think that the first thousand times were enough. In an attempt to help the forum get out of its collective system, I thought that we could semi-seriously talk about Marten and how to view him in today's QC. Feel free to give joke answers, if you must. :-P
As for me, I remember when he was the main character in the strip and his adventures (and misadventures) making the transition from college graduate to stable adult were one of the things that originally attracted me to Questionable Content. That said, I'm no nostalgia addict and I understand that Jeph and the themes of the strip have moved on from him. That said, you'll excuse me if I remember the 'good old days'. (Wanders off, muttering about how music was so much better when I was younger.)
Thank you for elaborating on my idea! Which wasn't original, by the way - I just parodied another poll. Besides, it's a variation of that worn-out joke (I never get tired of a joke, as my kid gently reminds me every 24 hours or so).
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New comic!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
My junior high school library had a sci-fi book that contained a chapter with a highly detailed account of oral sex, which I’m pretty sure that no one but me knew about.
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There's a relentlessly horny mind hiding behind Momo's friendly, but proper, exterior! :-D
I fail to understand how this is a bad thing? :-D :-D :-D :angel:
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OMG! I so miss working at a university library! Our “horny vault” was called “Special Collections.” It had really old works and some amazing photographs, but also Playboy and Penthouse. They actually were legit used for research by some students/professors. Of course there were horny people, but special collections was a separate room from the rest of the library that you had to sign in with an ID to visit. It was temperature controlled and had special lights with no access to bathrooms. All works were kept in there explicitly.
Of course, we had plenty of things in the main area horny people could access. Some German magazines are quite...racy. Anytime, something would regularly start to be ripped up or worse (you don’t want to know) we would petition to put it into Special Collections. I worked in Serials (magazines) and repairs. It was incredible what people would find to be exciting. Every night we closed one of us had to scout the bathrooms. The mens room often had books and magazines in it!
Despite all that, I really do miss it. When COVID ends, I am considering looking for a part-time job at a library. I may have just been lucky the one time I worked at one, but it was such a good environment. It didn’t pay anywhere near what I can make doing ad design, but it just felt like it fit.
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You can click "voting options" to go back and vote.
Ooooh cool ! So its not like other forums when you click on the see result you "voted" and can never vote :) great, thanks !
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I ... never knew.
Um, Claire -- What got you interested in 'Library Science'?
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Um, Claire -- What got you interested in 'Library Science'?
Well, we know that Emily was attracted by "the smell of old books"!
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I wonder if there are two closets next to each other, connected through a door which can only opened from one side ....
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Momo sure is a horny little weirdo (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4034) ;D
Momo's been horny for quite a bit longer. (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658)
At one point linking to that script was a running gag in this forum. I just want to do my part of the necroing.
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I'm a bit off put by the way I've seen the idea expressed, about "proper" people being "horny little weirdos" or like the old strip where Dora is teased after her kinky musing. It's not that I think it's incorrect, but I think it's not framing it well. I like to compartmentalize different parts of my life, so that I have a "proper" public personality, but my impression is it's implying some sort of sexual repression, which isn't necessarily true.
It had really old works and some amazing photographs, but also Playboy and Penthouse. They actually were legit used for research by some students/professors.
I wonder how much of that research was also "research" - I read somewhere that nurses don't really get any special pleasure from seeing naked bodies at work (except maybe at first) because they see too much of it, maybe something like that?
They're highly technical.
Will there be pictures?
If not, they will have to make-do with more primitive visual aids, as they say in the ed-biz (https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UIKGV2cTgqA).
I'd say that it is more accurate that Brun has a fascination with complex mechanical systems, and thus Clocks and AI Chassis are equally interesting, but current 'hyperfocus' is an outgrowth of this being a new frontier. Plus, this time, the complex mechanical system is intelligent, can talk back, and wants to Learn With Her.
I would say they're interesting in the same type of way, but my impression was was robots > clocks (the bold, meaning "much more").
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Momo sure is a horny little weirdo (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4034) ;D
Momo's been horny for quite a bit longer. (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658)
She gets it from Pintsize. (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1651)
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New comic!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
If they offer live nude art classes or have a human sexuality course or multiple courses, I doubt it was by accident...
No i mean straight up erotic novels. I never told the librarians about them. It was a SF series with lots of sex...
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Okaaayyy, that was certainly a thing.
Good to know that Marten and Momo are forming a solid friendship though.
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I mean, given the usual shenanigans at Smif, it's an honest mistake.
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I can't blame you Marten ;)
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New comic!
Amusingly, my school library actually had several adult books (porn) that I assume they ordered accidentally.
If they offer live nude art classes or have a human sexuality course or multiple courses, I doubt it was by accident...
No i mean straight up erotic novels. I never told the librarians about them. It was a SF series with lots of sex...
Was it Piers Anthony?
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No it was actual erotica. *lol*
ANYWAY.
Marten, do you REALLY need to look at the robosexual book? Seriously?
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I can't blame you Marten ;)
Queue Marten issueing a Paultin-esque 'huhn' for tomorrow's first panel.
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I can't blame you Marten ;)
Queue Marten issueing a Paultin-esque 'huhn' for tomorrow's first panel.
Could you please explain? This reference went so far over my head, it's in orbit by now.
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...damn you, Jeph! If he continues this joke I'm going to have to watch Reading Rainbow again :psyduck:
Oh and I wonder if Tai knows about the Horny Vault too...and if she's the one who actually named it that
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This strip could lead to a lot of interesting places in terms of possible character arcs and maybe even inter-character tensions. However, I have to say that I find it more likely that it is a one-off joke. Either that or Marten, guilt-stricken, will confess to Claire who will admit that she and Emily used to sneak in there during the lunch break and has read most of the seriously weird stuff already. Claire will recall that, for some reason, Emily kept on saying: "I bet that tickles!"
I really think that they're going to have to get Momo a date because, at this rate, she's going to have some kind of hardware failure due to build-up of tensions!
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True, Momo could literally blow a fuse.
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I have to admit, I didn't recall Momo working at the Smif library, and was about to ask "who is this new AI character who looks so much like Momo?"
#meta
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Jeph is restraining himself. I would have made the caption for this strip, "a reading rainboooonnnneeee!"
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Another cultural reference I had to google.
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*raises eyebrow*
Sorry, a Spock-gesture seems appropiate towards todays comic.
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Another cultural reference I had to google.
'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
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A bright spark in my brain went "I actually dig this as a ship" with Marten and Momo for a second before I remembered "Oh, right, Marten's dating Claire".
I just hadn't considered the pairing before, and I probably never will again, but they have similar ratios of maturity to immaturity in very complementary ways.
Like, say, them being the two members of the cast I can most obviously see reading books about this, and reading them the whole way through. The second part's the killer.
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A bright spark in my brain went "I actually dig this as a ship" with Marten and Momo for a second before I remembered "Oh, right, Marten's dating Claire".
Maybe Jeph is planning to use this as a hook for a consolation prize to those polyshippers who were disappointed by the sinking of the Brun-Elliott-Clinton ship?
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I don't want to sound creepy but I was pleasantly surprised with how Momo is looking now. When she was first introduced I always found it difficult to see her libido in action in some comics (like when she fantasizing and blushing) because she looked so ehmmm uncomfortably young.
She looks more mature now.
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I don't want to sound creepy but I was pleasantly surprised with how Momo is looking now. When she was first introduced I always found it difficult to see her libido in action in some comics (like when she fantasizing and blushing) because she looked so ehmmm uncomfortably young.
She looks more mature now.
I mean, she still does look rather young, given body size and all. But a lot of "looking mature" is clothing. It's like "professional attire", you wouldn't believe someone is a MD if they wore "lumberjack attire"
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I mean, she still does look rather young, given body size and all. But a lot of "looking mature" is clothing. It's like "professional attire", you wouldn't believe someone is a MD if they wore "lumberjack attire"
Hmmmm could be, but I thought her face looked different as well. I work at the hospital where everyone wears the same white outfit, at the same time I get all kinds of patients with all kinds of clothes. So I don't use clothing when it comes to stimating age. :-P
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
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I ... never knew.
Um, Claire -- What got you interested in 'Library Science'?
She already told Marten (and us) long ago. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2208)
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
...at least it beats being known as the guy being stalked by Sheldon on "Big Bang Theory"
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Comic’s up. Some people just don’t appreciate great art.
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-- Comic --
Why would anyone expect May's appreciation of art to be sophisticated?
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So May did get hired as Sam's assistant. Nice :) Must be a part-time gig, I doubt that Sam can pay her a lot.
Upside of May's new chassis: she can now flounce off with flair!
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As someone who isn't more than a few years older than Sam, she's a frustrating character to read. She consistently acts--and is treated as--closer to ten or so years old. I feel like she was closer to her actual age when she was first introduced than she is now.
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As someone who isn't more than a few years older than Sam, she's a frustrating character to read. She consistently acts--and is treated as--closer to ten or so years old. I feel like she was closer to her actual age when she was first introduced than she is now.
A lot of people who aren't around kids/teens much really have very little idea of how to interact with them. As for how Sam acts, there's such a range in maturity at that age. Though "range" is probably the wrong word because there are so many different facets to maturity. I can see Sam seeming like she acts younger than she is, but I also know people around her age IRL who I'd say she acts more mature than.
All that said, I see how it'd be frustrating, too. I understand Bubbles' attitude here, but I don't love it.
I forget how old Sam was when she was introduced, so I'm not sure if you mean that you feel she's regressed in maturity or more that she's been stagnant?
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Sam was 13 when introduced, so she's aged about a year. I feel like she has regressed since then. Then again, she didn't do all that much when we first saw her, so that might just be me confusing "maturity regression" with "character development."
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...at least it beats being known as the guy being stalked by Sheldon on "Big Bang Theory"
The less said about that show, the better.
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The other thing is, there are different facets to maturity that develop at different rates. Sam is VERY accepting of others’ differences, seems to accept her father’s partner, and her emulation of Faye is now coupled with more social awareness of her place in the hierarchy of the shop. She’s very thirteen in a lot of ways, for sure.
Bubbles is also a good intern coordinator.
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Since when was May a art assistant?
Anyway, nice strip.
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The arrangement was set up in comic 4131 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4131), but I don't think we'd actually seen it put into effect before now.
Edited to add: I just noticed the discrepancy between the above sentence and the thread title. This week's comics are numbered 4421-4425. Could a moderator correct the thread title? ... And actually it seems the error was introduced a couple weeks ago and has been passed along from week to week, so there are several threads to fix.
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I can't blame you Marten ;)
Queue Marten issueing a Paultin-esque 'huhn' for tomorrow's first panel.
Could you please explain? This reference went so far over my head, it's in orbit by now.
Paultin is a character from the now defunct D&D podcast Dice, Camera, Action! who was known for his alcoholism and non-plussed 'huhn' to a number of events. Which ultimately takes it's toll. The character (not the player) eventually has a nervous breakdown from the stress and we learn the root of his alcoholism and self-loathing. The character also exhibits both overt and covert signs of being chronically depressed which Nate does a rather admirable job of portraying (not sure if he's struggled with it himself or not).
Here's the first episode. They start in Curse of Strahd (gets a bit graphic in places), move to Storm King's Thunder and a couple other modules set in Fayerune.
EDIT: I should mention that I am currently watching the series. The PCs actually get some group therapy in episode 112. It's friggin full of spoilers.
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May has the maturity level of a 13 year old? That explains so much... :-D
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
I have never seen the reading rainbow, but the podcast LeVar Burton has where he reads short tales he likes is very nice.
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
I have never seen the reading rainbow, but the podcast LeVar Burton has where he reads short tales he likes is very nice.
That was the whole premise of much of the show, celebrities reading but they included the actual illustrations from the books while the celebrity read it. There was other segments that tied the theme of the day together with the books but they weren't usually related to literature but rather science, history, math instead.
May has the maturity level of a 13 year old? That explains so much... :-D
I don't think it's maturity of a 13-year-old, I think it's just her being a smartass as a defense mechanism. The classic "they're going to get pissed at me anyway so I'll save them the trouble" kind of personality. And I think she actually respects Sam's abilities for what they are, something that Fay should be doing since she herself is an artist.
Unless Fay is one of those art snobs who don't consider stuff like graffiti or tattooing to be "real" art.
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I'm really not sure what set Bubbles off today. May has given no indication that she disrespects Sam or even has any intent or desire to tease her. Personally, I just don't think that Bubbles trusts leaving two two teens together to encourage each-other to greater excesses! FWIW, to me, May has always struck me as the 18-year-old girl, so maybe Bubbles is worried about Sam looking up to her too much? Other than literally because, as Sam said, May's new chassis is tall!
Meanwhile, I love May's 'injured dignity' expression in panel 5!
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
.....What's with the Roots reference?
EDIT: Oh. Well, it's been 17 years since 11th grade. Not the first reference choice to come to mind (yes, ST:TNG).
I'm really not sure what set Bubbles off today. May has given no indication that she disrespects Sam or even has any intent or desire to tease her. Personally, I just don't think that Bubbles trusts leaving two two teens together to encourage each-other to greater excesses! FWIW, to me, May has always struck me as the 18-year-old girl, so maybe Bubbles is worried about Sam looking up to her too much? Other than literally because, as Sam said, May's new chassis is tall!
Meanwhile, I love May's 'injured dignity' expression in panel 5!
I suspect this may be a case of 'better safe than sorry' mixed with a bit of misjudging someone's character to some degree.
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Da-yam! May is right!!! Chill out, Bubs!
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As someone who isn't more than a few years older than Sam, she's a frustrating character to read. She consistently acts--and is treated as--closer to ten or so years old. I feel like she was closer to her actual age when she was first introduced than she is now.
Sam is, at this point, a year younger than my son. And I have commented before that she is actually a lot like him. Sam is immature for her age, has ADHD, lacks interpersonal skills, and might even be at the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum (though this is unconfirmed.) She’s also very smart and very talented. I live with this every day. If Sam was a real person she would probably get along great with my son.
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I would add that it's my personal experience that kids at 12-13 try a lot harder to act mature, and then as they get older they stop doing that as much because they start seeing themselves as more mature - so they don't try so hard to imitate it, they're trying to define it for themselves. Which means failing a bit. It feels true with how Sam's interactions with the cast changed over time.
People who learn second languages have told me something similar: People are a lot more impressed if you're barely managing to understand and follow along, because it's obvious you're learning a new language, which is awesome. But as soon as you're partially fluent, you start to be registered as being a bit thick or stupid. There's just a gulf where getting a bit better ends up being perceived as a lot worse.
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Da-yam! May is right!!! Chill out, Bubs!
Unless that new chassis includes a tact subroutine Bubbles is right to have a word with her.
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"Other" (One way or another, I'm gonna make this a tradition) :-D :
Marten is the guy who wakes up late one day, after sleeping off a bender after being laid off from his dead-end job. He then realizes that he has dreamed his entire life since that point in time.
He then says 'Hey, that makes a pretty good story', writes it all down and sells it to a budding cartoonist named Jeph Jacques, before heading back to California to study guitar maintenance and repair...
Isn't that how The Hobbit came to us?
There was a Feghoot about that. Feghoot travels back in time and offers Tolkien a drug that enhances creativity. Tolkien of course asks if it is safe, Feghoot says "yes".
After it has had time to take effect, Tolkien exclaims something like (all dialog paraphrased from memory)
"There is a short man in my study with furry feet telling me the most wonderful story!"
F: "Good then."
T: "But he's not real! I'm hallucinating! You told me this drug was harmless!"
F: "Professor Tolkien, it is harmless, but never once did I tell you it was not hobbit forming."
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I'm with May. I'd totally let someone draw a skull puking knives on me.
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There's just a gulf where getting a bit better ends up being perceived as a lot worse.
This is a reason that I prefer not understanding than misunderstanding. I might learn faster with intermediate misunderstanding, but by intentionally waiting until I'm sure the understanding is correct, I avoid that `stupid gulf.' It also avoids never-corrected (small) misunderstandings.
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Sam is immature for her age, has ADHD, lacks interpersonal skills, and might even be at the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum (though this is unconfirmed.)
I have to admit that I haven't picked up on any ADHD/autism 'vibes' from Sam (insofar as you can pick up vibes from a webcomic).
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I think one of the things that throws me off about Sam is that she's the only child in QC. Thus, it makes her feel a little like the token teenager, a sort of distilling of the average teenage personality.
I'm not sure how well I'm getting my point across here. I'm just a little frustrated seeing myself reflected as someone I'm not.
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Sam is immature for her age, has ADHD, lacks interpersonal skills, and might even be at the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum (though this is unconfirmed.)
I have to admit that I haven't picked up on any ADHD/autism 'vibes' from Sam (insofar as you can pick up vibes from a webcomic).
Same for me...she's just a normal tween who's bored easily and who has odd hobbies but aren't much different than kids who're heavily into gaming or who're sports fanatics(both watching and playing).
She has trouble keeping her interests leading to this overabundance of energy, but she's like most smart kids with short attention spans and little outlet for said energy.
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I'm really not sure what set Bubbles off today. May has given no indication that she disrespects Sam or even has any intent or desire to tease her. Personally, I just don't think that Bubbles trusts leaving two two teens together to encourage each-other to greater excesses! FWIW, to me, May has always struck me as the 18-year-old girl, so maybe Bubbles is worried about Sam looking up to her too much? Other than literally because, as Sam said, May's new chassis is tall!
Meanwhile, I love May's 'injured dignity' expression in panel 5!
Bubbles is still upset over having to literally kick Fay out of her stupid behavior earlier with Millie...she was way out of line in her joking and upset Bubbles for it so she's probably still coming down from that disappointment and outrage.
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Sam is immature for her age, has ADHD, lacks interpersonal skills, and might even be at the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum (though this is unconfirmed.)
I have to admit that I haven't picked up on any ADHD/autism 'vibes' from Sam (insofar as you can pick up vibes from a webcomic).
Sam and ADHD: here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2018) and here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3592), for starters.
As for the autism thing, I’m not entirely sold on it myself. Immaturity, lack of social skills, and ADHD can all be indicative of high-functioning autism - or not, depending on who is doing the diagnosis. Where one draws the line seems to be a matter of opinion. In any rate, if Sam is on the spectrum she’s barely there and would probably never get diagnosed.
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I think one of the things that throws me off about Sam is that she's the only child in QC. Thus, it makes her feel a little like the token teenager, a sort of distilling of the average teenage personality.I'm not sure how well I'm getting my point across here. I'm just a little frustrated seeing myself reflected as someone I'm not.
I get where you're coming from, it can be hard to not take certain representations personally, especially if they're the only one around ("Sam is a teenager, I am a teenager, thus Jeph is describing me!"). Pretty sure that that is not Jeph's intent, though 🙂
Sam and ADHD: here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2018) and here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3592), for starters.
As for the autism thing, I’m not entirely sold on it myself. Immaturity, lack of social skills, and ADHD can all be indicative of high-functioning autism - or not, depending on who is doing the diagnosis. Where one draws the line seems to be a matter of opinion. In any rate, if Sam is on the spectrum she’s barely there and would probably never get diagnosed.
Let's agree to disagree on that one. You see ADHD, I see an excited kid who sometimes doesn't look before she leaps.
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Bad May! No suggestions. :laugh:
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New comic up...
Sam can focus and behave it seems, she just has to be in the right mindset to do so. With all due respect to the autistic spectrum claims, this to me is more and more confirmation that she's just easily excitable and overly enthusiastic about things that she likes and isn't obsessing over them, isn't diverting so much attention to them that she's neglecting everything around her, and isn't actively ignoring rules that go against what she's trying to do: she's just a kid with a lot of energy who has different interests.
Compare her with others who are known to be on or are more likely to be on the spectrum than her: Marigold, Hannelore, and definitely Brun. Sam just doesn't click all of the boxes that people want to put her in.
And by the way: ADHD isn't part of the autism spectrum. You can suffer from it and be autistic, but you an also suffer from it and not be autistic. My niece has both, my nephew is autistic. My younger nephew has ADHD. We hit the mother lode of behavior issues with them.
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It's OK Sam, you can have multiple muses 😊
With regards to the previous comic and Bubbles' admonition: I think she was just erring on the side of caution. Bubbles knows that May can be abrasive and quick to shoot her mouth off, so I think that she was trying to make sure that May doesn't disparage Sam's art.
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It's OK Sam, you can have multiple muses 😊
With regards to the previous comic and Bubbles' admonition: I think she was just erring on the side of caution. Bubbles knows that May can be abrasive and quick to shoot her mouth off, so I think that she was trying to make sure that May doesn't disparage Sam's art.
That was my impression, but it still came off a little harsher than it might have been intended. May also only uses her abrasiveness against those who are upsetting her or who are just plain being stupid. She is normally good with Momo and Dale and now Sven, so she's probably not likely to get like that with Sam unless Sam says or does something dumb that needs a reaction from her snarky side.
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Jack 7!!! :laugh:
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Jeph, in the unlikely event that you ever read this, there's nothing wrong in following up reader suggestions. Posting as someone who has come up with a lot of fan-fiction ideas in his time, my attitude is that I would have never had the idea if you hadn't created the universe first, so, to a certain extent, the idea is really yours to use free-of-charge.
Onto the strip, I'm thinking that poor May is going to end up in the naughty corner and not allowed to talk anymore. If I know one thing about creative personalties, interrupting them mid-creative process is not a way to make them feel well-inclined towards you!
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I think one of the things that throws me off about Sam is that she's the only child in QC. Thus, it makes her feel a little like the token teenager, a sort of distilling of the average teenage personality.
I'm not sure how well I'm getting my point across here. I'm just a little frustrated seeing myself reflected as someone I'm not.
*blinks*
That's a thing? I mean outside of the token kid/tween character in a lot of older cartoons from the 60s, 70s, 80s?
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It's OK Sam, you can have multiple muses 😊
Yes, up to nine. More than that and you get buffer overflow errors.
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Hmmm... I wonder if May has a special dynamic with Sam or if she is good with all kids? It’s really interesting to see this side to her. She is actually friendly and patient. With Bub’s criticism, she was actually protective. It’s cool to see this side of her.
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Hmmm... I wonder if May has a special dynamic with Sam or if she is good with all kids?
Personally, I think it's because May is pretty much a 'kid' (in emotional and intellectual terms) herself. Somewhere in the 16-20 age bracket in equivalent to normal human maturation. Thus, Sam and May have interactions that one would normally expect between mid-teen and late-teen siblings.
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Jeph, in the unlikely event that you ever read this, there's nothing wrong in following up reader suggestions. Posting as someone who has come up with a lot of fan-fiction ideas in his time, my attitude is that I would have never had the idea if you hadn't created the universe first, so, to a certain extent, the idea is really yours to use free-of-charge.
Onto the strip, I'm thinking that poor May is going to end up in the naughty corner and not allowed to talk anymore. If I know one thing about creative personalties, interrupting them mid-creative process is not a way to make them feel well-inclined towards you!
Well no, but also yes.
Mostly to due legal issues and did the creator actually come up with the idea or plagiarize it? And actual court cases that have happened over writers "stealing" or stealing fans' ideas. While it would be super cool if authors, show-runners, and directors would use ideas or suggestions fans give them, it ultimately leads to so many problems.
That's why so many creators won't read fanfic of their works. It spares them the legal headache as well as freeing them up of self-doubt of whether or not they actually had the idea of their own accord or if they only had it because of someone suggesting something.
EDIT: tired typo fix. 'Due' not 'do'. At least I didn't get to the point of abusing 'j' for 'h', 'y', and 'zh'.
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Now waiting for May to take marker in hand.
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Is that Jack 7 from Tekken?
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Comic's up.
What should and shouldn't go in the Horny Vault is largely subjective.
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Ah. 'Dry text'. Very funny.
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Had me at "angry orgy." Sometimes gatherings turn into angry shouting matches, and that's awkward as hell but it's easy enough to just leave. Sometimes gatherings go in the other direction, and that can be a weird and emotionally disorienting experience but not at all bad. But the prospect of both at once is squicky and upsetting in a way I hope never to personally experience.
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Momo looks so let down in panel 2. What was she expecting?
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Momo looks so let down in panel 2. What was she expecting?
A lot of technical drawings instead of words? :evil:
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Look, the Marxists start arguing the master-slave dialectic, the post-structuralists reply disagree with the binary nature of the two roles, say that such things often defy neat categories... We've all been there.
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In inchoate ingestion, I imagined ``angry orgy'' as egregious accusations---each against another---all erroneously assuming, of effectively extrinsic distinctions, any antagonic exponentiation essentially disagrees---missed ``literally'' literally meaning literally, literally.
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It looks to me that, for some reason, an actual academic text ended up in there because of the title and everyone being too embarrassed to read it! I still think that this is all going to be a hook for a further set of developments for Momo and also possibly Marten and Claire.
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Next week's comics are hopefully another Bembo adventure.
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(Back to your grave, Blebmbo)
I still think that this is all going to be a hook for a further set of developments for Momo and also possibly Marten and Claire.
Claire-Marten-Momo polycule?
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I still think that this is all going to be a hook for a further set of developments for Momo and also possibly Marten and Claire.
Claire-Marten-Momo polycule?
Do you really think Claire could stand both her lovers having her job while she’s still looking?
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Do not confuse post-structuralism with post-deconstructionism. You'll just get the constructivists upset again.
I mean, what do you think comes after post-modernism?
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I like to think I'm ahead of the times, with all these post-* philosophies. In a word, I'm post-post.
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It is clear that we cannot reconstruct deconstructualalism. It is dead. The efforts of the neo-Marxists to salvage something useful from the wreckage of classical Marxism are an embarrassment. The Hegelian dialectic has been superseded. Punk has had its day and will not rise again.
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I was postmodern before it became fashionable.
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Next week's comics are hopefully another Bembo adventure.
HAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM
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'Merrican kids were exhorted to read by Geordie La Forge?
Now I'm jealous.
No, Kunta Kinte.
! Right. I didn't recall that Burton had starred in 'Roots', too. In my defence, back in the 80s and 90s, US series would air on German TV with a few years delay-, and not necessarily in the same order in which they'd aired originally in the US.
For example, to my mind, 'ST-NG' is 'definitely a mid-to-late 90s series', and I keep being surprised by how old the actors actually are.
P.S.: Roots did also air on German TV ... somewhere in the 80s-90s?. Not sure when - just that I'd instinctively sorted the 'visuals' as 'late 70s', whereas ST-NG used a different, more '90s' visual aesthetics.
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To be fair, I often think that serious study of sexuality (human and otherwise) needs this sort of approach. Laser-like focus can be required to cut through all the blushing, giggling, misunderstanding and outright lies to get to the facts. Be sensitive, courteous, and don't cross boundaries or act without consent... but ignore the distractions, do the research and then present your findings with evidence.
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Look, the Marxists start arguing the master-slave dialectic, the post-structuralists reply disagree with the binary nature of the two roles, say that such things often defy neat categories... We've all been there.
.......not all of us have participated in hate fucking.
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[epigraph]
Everybody knows
The scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter
On your bed
That will disclose
[/epigraph]
I disagree on both matters. Punk may have had it's day, among pre-academics, but scarcely need I look among those, professing that honorable creed, than I see a certain essence lacking. My perspective has grown, through time, to that never has been, in the first, such a scene---certain as our world is flat. Punk always was---always will wax, with each material enhancement, to our spirit; with each cap and boot---higher off the ground---to our grandchildren. There is a certain creative misinterpretation---a certain fauxpunk---borne in nightmares incognizant---of who, we are. [/ :psyduck:]
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I like to think I'm ahead of the times, with all these post-* philosophies. In a word, I'm post-post.
Thank you for your post-post post.
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Not sure if this week brings Bembo or not. If so, poll suggestion:
Quest log?
- kid armor
- wolf pelts
- Give me all your sand!
- beach king
- HAAAAAAMMM
- RAAA!
- OTHERWORLDLY BEAUTY
- belly scratches
- a bucket full of live crickets
- Go back in your grave, Dad!
I know I'm missing some and these are out of order, but I'm too tired to look them all up and the wiki needs editing.
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A bright spark in my brain went "I actually dig this as a ship" with Marten and Momo for a second before I remembered "Oh, right, Marten's dating Claire".
I just hadn't considered the pairing before, and I probably never will again, but they have similar ratios of maturity to immaturity in very complementary ways.
Like, say, them being the two members of the cast I can most obviously see reading books about this, and reading them the whole way through. The second part's the killer.
I’d love a Marten/Momo pairing but then I can’t stand Clare so Marten with anyone else would make me happy.
I’m also realistic enough to know that’s probably never gonna happen. Oh well, ya can’t always get what you want.
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Why is there no thread for the new week ? :?
And this guest comic is REALLY odd. I wouldnt be surprised if the site got hacked ...
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Why is there no thread for the new week ? :?
And this guest comic is REALLY odd. I wouldnt be surprised if the site got hacked ...
Mostly because I wasn't sure if we'd be doing more Bembo comics, returning to the regular run, or something else. I'm guessing I'm not alone in that boat.
As for the site getting hacked, really not sure. This feels like something from Jeph's twitter, but I've been out of the loop over there since March or April. Jeph wasn't kidding when he said he block people on twitter for the slightest of things (I have no idea why I got blocked).