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Title: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 11 Apr 2021, 18:14
No poll, sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 11 Apr 2021, 18:15
Comic up.

No time like the present, indeed. I wonder if that is also supposed to be a clock pun?  ::)
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: shanejayell on 11 Apr 2021, 18:20
No time like the present, indeed. I wonder if that is also supposed to be a clock pun?  ::)

Knowing Jeph, probably.

Go, girl! Hope it works out.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 11 Apr 2021, 19:09
This is actually a great time to have this convo ó itís not right before or after sex, neitherís drunk, and if they want to part now, itís as simple as him going back to his hotel room (or whatever) instead of back to the apartment. Tuvok approves!
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Apr 2021, 19:37
Did he even hear what Renee asked? Or hasnít it sunk in yet?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Tova on 11 Apr 2021, 20:02
It won't sink in until at least tomorrow, when the next comic lands.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Apr 2021, 23:09
So, Renee is the sort of woman who just yells it all out all at once when she's under stress or if it's really important to her. I'm sure that's a behaviour characteristic that's led to some weird consequences every now and then!

Brun, don't go too far. I'm pretty sure that Dan and Renee need a friend on hand to ensure that they don't become their own worst enemies, what with Renee's nervousness-induced shouting and Dan's tendency to make weird jokes when he's nervous.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 11 Apr 2021, 23:20
Did he even hear what Renee asked? Or hasnít it sunk in yet?

I think his face looks like he's feeling the awkwardness already.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 12 Apr 2021, 07:01
I must now know all about BrŁn's face powder.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: jesslc on 12 Apr 2021, 08:58
I have to say I love Renee's inability to avoid blurting things out like this. I donít know that I would love it if I knew Renee in real life, but as a webcomic character it's hilarious. Also good on her for being direct.

Maybe Brun could head over and chat to Elliot for a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 12 Apr 2021, 18:22
Comic's up.

Brun, maybe go with...I don't know, "gotta go wind my clocks" or something next time.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Apr 2021, 18:50
"I'ma gonna go do cocaine in the bathroom."

"THAT'S NOT WHAT POWDERING YOUR NOSE MEANS."

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Torlek on 12 Apr 2021, 19:24
Brun, maybe go with...I don't know, "gotta go wind my clocks" or something next time.

I dunno, that one's too easy to turn into a euphemism for masturbation.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Apr 2021, 19:29
She *did* try.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 12 Apr 2021, 19:40
Is... is Brun making a joke?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 12 Apr 2021, 20:50
I don't think so. It seems more like she's unfamiliar with the 'powdering your nose' euphemism.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gyrre on 12 Apr 2021, 20:59
"I'ma gonna go do cocaine in the bathroom."

"THAT'S NOT WHAT POWDERING YOUR NOSE MEANS."

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Notable exceptions to the above; Capitol Hill, Hollywood.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: St.Clair on 12 Apr 2021, 21:22
Dan is a good egg. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Nepiophage on 12 Apr 2021, 21:59
Callback to https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2627
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2021, 23:10
This may just be my romantic nature in charge but my reading on this is that most of Dan's hesitation was surprise that Renee actually wanted this to become long term. I mean... he's Shitty Dan the RPG Nerd, right? Surely someone as hot as Renee couldn't want him other than as a fling? If I'm right in my reading, then one of the things that Renee will start to pick up on will be that Dan keeps on giving hints about low self-esteem and his fears as to whether she's going to 'realise' that he isn't the one for her. It would be ironic as she's basically struggling with the same feelings.

Meanwhile, I have to say that I'm really wondering what Brun thinks certain common phrases mean and whether that's ever led her into trouble! I do hope that she doesn't repeat her interpretation of 'powder my nose' to anyone outside her circle of friends!
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Shjade on 12 Apr 2021, 23:34
Possible, but I don't really get that vibe. He doesn't seem to be anxious or overeager about her proposal the way I'd expect of someone in that category of self-deprecation. I think he really was just treating it as a casual fun thing and, hey, he's been having a good time, so why not see where this goes, sure. Maybe a dash of "it's long-distance so what's the worst that could happen if it doesn't go well, we go back to not seeing each other like normal?"
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Torlek on 13 Apr 2021, 02:50
He can have low self-esteem and it not manifest as desperation. It may be more like imposter syndrome. Or echoes from school: "Man, I'm just a shitty nerd. Why is this cool girl asking to date me? Surely she's setting up some horrible joke at my expense."
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 13 Apr 2021, 03:23
He can have low self-esteem and it not manifest as desperation. It may be more like imposter syndrome. Or echoes from school: "Man, I'm just a shitty nerd. Why is this cool girl asking to date me? Surely she's setting up some horrible joke at my expense."
Not even necessarily that level of paranoia; could be closer to ďI canít believe this is happening, this never happens, better keep my expectations low so I donít get hurt too bad when the inevitable happens.Ē
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gus_Smedstad on 13 Apr 2021, 09:13
I don't believe any of the above narratives.

I think it's pretty much exactly how it reads. He was having sex, liked having sex, didn't think of it as a relationship, but doesn't have a problem with a relationship now that she brings it up. If you're already sleeping together, moving it on to a relationship seems the like the easiest route unless you're a commitment phobe.

As a commitment-phile, I'd be thinking about it as a relationship right away once sex started happening. Dan's clearly in the middle. Commitment-neutral.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: notStanley on 13 Apr 2021, 09:20
Quote
keep my expectations low so I donít get hurt too bad when the inevitable happens

even before the quarantines, do not even try to talk to anyone or leave the house anymore
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Baz_Yat on 13 Apr 2021, 18:26
I think Shitty Dan needs to be renamed to Really Not Shitty At All Dan.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: shanejayell on 13 Apr 2021, 18:50
Awww. That was cute.

Meanwhile...

"How long do I need to hide in the bathroom?" Brun wondered
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 13 Apr 2021, 19:07
The infrastructure's not great, but at least the hot dogs are good.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Apr 2021, 22:03
The basis of every relationship.

'Wanna give it a go?'
- 'Sure, why not?'
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Apr 2021, 23:10
I think that Jeph is giving us a clear indication of the problems well in advance: Renee is permanently going to be waiting for the next shoe to drop and Dan is basically going to keep giving non-answers that he hopes Renee will like because he's kind of scared that, if he's too honest, he'll scare her off.

Example of possibly 'too honest at this stage': "The catch is that, if  this works out, I may have to ask you to marry me."
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Apr 2021, 10:45
Brun could certainly have a sense of humor. Noticing how incongruous and contradictory figures of speech are is something anyone could do and that neurodivergent people might even be better at.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: rockkevinrock on 14 Apr 2021, 18:21
Hmm, I like the idea of this long-distance relationship thing. Like, they'll both probably be able to take vacations sometimes and one or the other of them will go to visit the other person, and either seeing Shitty Dan show up in the neighborhood seems like random entertainment/fun, or alternately if Renee occasionally visits him in the "Big City" sometimes then it'll also be funny/entertaining to see her delegate the responsibility of taking care of the bakery to Elliot and it'll be EXTREMELY funny to see the hijinks that ensue when that happens...
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 14 Apr 2021, 18:29
Oh, my!

Could...could it be? Is that...potential conflict and intricate future plot in an otherwise happy QC relationship? Surely not!
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Apr 2021, 18:30
In Renee's position, I would like hearing that sort of that thing as well. Don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I need to hear! Honesty and good communication are of paramount importance in any sort of relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 14 Apr 2021, 19:06
Dan smiles a LOT and shows his teeth, and I canít tell if that means heís untrustworthy according Jephís facial expressions lexicon.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Sorflakne on 14 Apr 2021, 19:38
Or he's just nervous.  Anecdotally, I do toothy, awkward smiles when nervous or uncertain.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 14 Apr 2021, 19:51
Or he's just nervous.  Anecdotally, I do toothy, awkward smiles when nervous or uncertain.

Ohh, I hadnít thought of that! I wonder if thatís the hint that heís less chill than heís seemed so far.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Apr 2021, 20:45
In Renee's position, I would like hearing that sort of that thing as well. Don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I need to hear! Honesty and good communication are of paramount importance in any sort of relationship.

Definitely better to identify potential future issues eaely on than to discover them once they've become a problem?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: St.Clair on 14 Apr 2021, 21:50
True, but I get the feeling that Renee is coming at this from the perspective of "things never end up well for me, so let's try to figure out how this is going to inevitably fail."
She can't let herself imagine actually being happy and successful at a relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Apr 2021, 22:04
Even "successful" relationships inevitably end.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Shjade on 14 Apr 2021, 22:10
Don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I need to hear!

But how can I tell you what you need to hear without telling you what you want to hear if what you want is to hear what you need to hear? D:
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: DaiJB on 14 Apr 2021, 22:47
Or he's just nervous.  Anecdotally, I do toothy, awkward smiles when nervous or uncertain.

Ohh, I hadnít thought of that! I wonder if thatís the hint that heís less chill than heís seemed so far.

I'd say that's on the cards - with a school experience like "Shitty" Dan went through, I imagine that a measure of  anxiety is part of the baggage he's been saddled with - even if it's usually not obvious.

I am a little bit suspicious of the way he seems to be dealing with it - I mean, a QC universe character who's actually getting his shit together? And doing it in a mature and rational manner?? Inconceivable!
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Apr 2021, 23:09
I think that Renee probably has an issue with Dan seeming so perfect. A relationship with flaws is something she can work around. A relationship that goes from zero to lifetime commitment in a week is like something out of a weird romantic novel and she knows those aren't realistic.

That said, her way of expressing that is a bit weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Fuzzlepuzzle on 15 Apr 2021, 03:47
This isn't particularly relevant to today's comic, but I've been feeling a bit weird about Renee ever since I remembered that she (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1859) was Angus's toxic ex-girlfriend (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1363). (His housemates at the time were probably Marigold and Momo, and Momo is pretty lax with people, which makes her sound like Really Bad News.) Not that people can't change, but I'm not super fond of just sweeping abusive relationships under the rug off-screen. It's probably just an abandoned/forgotten character trait, though, and no longer canon. I should try to not get too hung up on it.

Anyway, this is already looking like a fracture in the making! Dan doesn't seem thrilled by her style of communication, and Renee doesn't seem like she'll deal well with someone so non-chalant. I can sympathize with her; it drives me bonkers when people won't share their whole thought process with me. And when people won't talk about potential future problems. But it can be pretty overwhelming, especially for someone who isn't used to talking like that and doesn't want to. I expect this to be a reoccuring thing in their relationship.

Personally, a long distance exclusive relationship with someone you've been hanging out with for a week is like a big neon sign flashing "please do not do this", but I'm risk adverse. Their New Relationship Energy is in full force and it likely won't last. They'll just be left with lonely beds and texting, and it seems like both of them were having frequent ONS's before this. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing implodes because one of them ends up cheating.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Apr 2021, 03:57
I dunno, that one's too easy to turn into a euphemism for masturbation.
She does enjoy that, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2021, 09:07
I can see Renee thinking "This is too good to be true! Oh no! But wait, here's something that makes it realistic! What a relief!".
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 15 Apr 2021, 11:08
This isn't particularly relevant to today's comic, but I've been feeling a bit weird about Renee ever since I remembered that she (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1859) was Angus's toxic ex-girlfriend (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1363). (His housemates at the time were probably Marigold and Momo, and Momo is pretty lax with people, which makes her sound like Really Bad News.) Not that people can't change, but I'm not super fond of just sweeping abusive relationships under the rug off-screen. It's probably just an abandoned/forgotten character trait, though, and no longer canon. I should try to not get too hung up on it.

Anyway, this is already looking like a fracture in the making! Dan doesn't seem thrilled by her style of communication, and Renee doesn't seem like she'll deal well with someone so non-chalant. I can sympathize with her; it drives me bonkers when people won't share their whole thought process with me. And when people won't talk about potential future problems. But it can be pretty overwhelming, especially for someone who isn't used to talking like that and doesn't want to. I expect this to be a reoccuring thing in their relationship.

Personally, a long distance exclusive relationship with someone you've been hanging out with for a week is like a big neon sign flashing "please do not do this", but I'm risk adverse. Their New Relationship Energy is in full force and it likely won't last. They'll just be left with lonely beds and texting, and it seems like both of them were having frequent ONS's before this. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing implodes because one of them ends up cheating.

I mean, at the time Marigold had an unrequited crush on Angus and Momoís character arc has been about accepting others who donít do what she thinks is right so  :psyduck: Iím not sure how toxic Renee was at that time?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Apr 2021, 11:27
Not to mention, that the further you go back into the archives, the less likely certain things are to being certain canon.  Not to mention, Angus' description of the breakup and aftermath might not be all that reliable.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 15 Apr 2021, 12:10
I mean, I can see them not getting along as a couple ó Angus wasnít where he wanted to be career wise and wanted a partner committed to professional self improvement. In a lot of ways, Renee is pretty set professionally. Sheís one of the lead bakers at a bakery whose reputation is such that it supplies baked goods to other local businesses. Her next move up would be starting her own bakery and that doesnít seem to be what she wants.

Also, shit if Renee came in a day when Faye was drunk or Dorian the wrong mood then I can see them fucking her drink for looking at them wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Apr 2021, 12:11
There is a pretty strong tendency for men to label any woman they have a less than pleasant relationship with as a crazy bitch. Any ex-boyfriend is likely an unreliable narrator.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Apr 2021, 12:27
Quite true.  As far as "crazy" goes, all my exes did choose to date me, so they might qualify there.  Only one was flat-out malignant, though. 
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: traroth on 15 Apr 2021, 12:55
I feel you, Dan. Renťe's happiness about bad news uncovers a self-destructive tendancy which is worrying...
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 15 Apr 2021, 18:13
Comic's up.

"Well, we don't do them weekly anymore. I...I just wouldn't visit on Arbor Day if I were you."
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Apr 2021, 18:17
The problem with being in a cult is recognizing that you're in a cult.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2021, 18:40
There is a pretty strong tendency for men to label any woman they have a less than pleasant relationship with as a crazy bitch. Any ex-boyfriend is likely an unreliable narrator.

If he misrepresented Momo's reaction, that would lower my opinion of him a great deal.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 15 Apr 2021, 18:51
Were his roommates at the time def Marigold and Momo? Because tbh, I cannot imagine Momo sacrificing a goat or Marigold killing one and eating it... so either he was exaggerating or they werenít his roommates at the time.

Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Apr 2021, 19:13
Angus never responded to Faye's question where she asked if Renee was the person he dated before her, so Renee might not even be the one Angus's roommates sacrificed a goat for.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 15 Apr 2021, 21:31
Damn, Girl got control issues out the wazoo

We are going to see another Dora-the-relationship-Destroyer aren't we?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Apr 2021, 21:37
Can we please not open that can of worms again? For fuck's sake. Let it go.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Timemaster on 15 Apr 2021, 22:39
Wow, Renťe is really looking for reasons to NOT make this work.

Nothing can possibly go wrong here...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Apr 2021, 22:41
Better to suss out potential pitfalls ahead of time than to walk in blind. Make sure everyone in the relationship is on the same page.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Apr 2021, 23:09
'Blood Sacrifice' = freshman practical lessons in the machine shop. It can get messy, especially with all these kids who think that watching YouTube 'how to...' videos makes them an expert.

Wow, Renťe is really looking for reasons to NOT make this work.

Nothing can possibly go wrong here...  :roll:

I think that she's just been burned so many times that she's actively searching for the hot spots in advance. I'm sure that Jeph will spend at least some time looking into the past that leads to this level of neurosis and her trying to work it out with her friends. I mean, when was the last time that we have a QC character that doesn't have a personality-shaping background trauma?
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: moz1959 on 16 Apr 2021, 06:07
No blood sacrifices?
Any engineer worth their salt knows that a bleeding injury is a sure sign of job done properly. :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 16 Apr 2021, 10:03
Angus never responded to Faye's question where she asked if Renee was the person he dated before her, so Renee might not even be the one Angus's roommates sacrificed a goat for.

Maybe heís got a thing for curvy, sassy service industry brunettes with trauma

Maybe heís been unofficially banned from several Noho cafes and bakeries because he keeps having dramatic breakups with staff.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 16 Apr 2021, 10:04
If your project bites you, it's alive.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Sorflakne on 16 Apr 2021, 14:03
In my reenactment group, it's not a real project until you've spilled coffee on it and/or bled on it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Fuzzlepuzzle on 16 Apr 2021, 15:08
There is a pretty strong tendency for men to label any woman they have a less than pleasant relationship with as a crazy bitch. Any ex-boyfriend is likely an unreliable narrator.

While true, that isn't enough reason to write off a man who says his ex "practically had a career in belittling people" (which if directed at him is a very specific example of abuse, not just a generic she-was-crazy statement). Lots of men do suffer emotional abuse from their partners.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Litch on 16 Apr 2021, 19:26
No one graduates with a mechanical engineering degree that hasn't bleed for it.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: sitnspin on 16 Apr 2021, 19:59
There is a pretty strong tendency for men to label any woman they have a less than pleasant relationship with as a crazy bitch. Any ex-boyfriend is likely an unreliable narrator.

While true, that isn't enough reason to write off a man who says his ex "practically had a career in belittling people" (which if directed at him is a very specific example of abuse, not just a generic she-was-crazy statement). Lots of men do suffer emotional abuse from their partners.
This is true, and I never suggested one should dismiss out of hand, but one might not want to rely on that assessment in isolation.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Tova on 16 Apr 2021, 20:11
We've been watching Renee firsthand for some time now, so there is absolutely no need to resort to hearsay in assessing her character.
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Apr 2021, 21:55
If your project bites you, it's alive.


"Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!"
Title: Re: WCDT 4501-4505 (12th April through 16th April, 2021)
Post by: Oenone on 17 Apr 2021, 17:25
There is a pretty strong tendency for men to label any woman they have a less than pleasant relationship with as a crazy bitch. Any ex-boyfriend is likely an unreliable narrator.

While true, that isn't enough reason to write off a man who says his ex "practically had a career in belittling people" (which if directed at him is a very specific example of abuse, not just a generic she-was-crazy statement). Lots of men do suffer emotional abuse from their partners.
This is true, and I never suggested one should dismiss out of hand, but one might not want to rely on that assessment in isolation.

Or use it to castigate someone when you donít know if that person is the ex in question