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Title: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 25 Apr 2021, 18:27
Comic's up!

I had honestly forgotten the upcoming wedding....

Poll! I have no idea what you'd actually bring to a lesbian potluck wedding. *LOL*
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 25 Apr 2021, 18:41
They'd have to choose between the potluck wedding and inviting Steve, because you know he'd bring a truckload of cereal.

On a side note, has the comic looked a little pixelated for the last two strips? All the lines feel slightly less defined.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DaiJB on 25 Apr 2021, 18:49
"Other"

Dessert! Preferably something non-cakey, non-wheat-floury ( Yes, I have food intolerances  :grumpypuss: )
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Sorflakne on 25 Apr 2021, 18:55
In Minnesota it'd be the wedding where everyone brought potato or macaroni salad.

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 25 Apr 2021, 19:22

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
They are delicious.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Hypersapien on 25 Apr 2021, 19:57
How about some kind of web site form where everyone is listed and they say what they're going to bring?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: hedgie on 25 Apr 2021, 19:58

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
They are delicious.

Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement. 
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 25 Apr 2021, 20:11

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
They are delicious.

Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.
You do realise there are recipes that don't involve mayo, yes? Proper potato salad is made with mustard.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mordhaus on 25 Apr 2021, 20:12
More new characters? :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: SeattleCrochetWoman on 25 Apr 2021, 21:35
More new characters? :-D

That’s Tai and Dora.Or do you mean more new characters for them to invite?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Tova on 25 Apr 2021, 21:39

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
They are delicious.

Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.
You do realise there are recipes that don't involve mayo, yes? Proper potato salad is made with mustard.

There are indeed. I am a big fan of potato salad, but never make it with mayo.

For example (https://www.recipetineats.com/lemon-potato-salad/).

TLDR make sure your potato salads have enough acid and discover that potato salad is actually good.
Yoghurt is a good alternative ingredient as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 Apr 2021, 21:44
Do chilli or a crockpot of nachos count as soup?

EDIT: Oh! Deviled eggs!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 25 Apr 2021, 22:15
Neither chili nor nachos count as soup, they are their own separate categories.

There are never enough deviled eggs at any pot luck. They are always the first item to run out. Largely because they are a massive nuisance to make so no one wants to do it.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 25 Apr 2021, 23:39
Sour cream works great in a potato salad.

Crackers and dips (hummus etc) are always a good idea.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Torlek on 26 Apr 2021, 00:04
Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.

I sometimes wish I was capable of hating something with half the vitriol that anti-mayo and anti-cilantro people direct towards their foodstuff of derision. It's impossible for either to be mentioned on the internet without someone swooping in like the damn Batsignal was lit and having an absolute pants-shitting tantrum and/or wishing death on anyone that likes the item in question.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 26 Apr 2021, 06:56
... has there been a time skip?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: hedgie on 26 Apr 2021, 06:57
In my case, the anti-mayo thing is mostly because I can’t properly digest egg stuff (like I need to be within 2 minutes of a toilet for hours after eating them), and mayo tends to show up in things where you don’t expect it, or people don’t understand what “no mayo” means.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Apr 2021, 08:33
rushes out to buy potato salad and mayonnaise
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: hedgie on 26 Apr 2021, 09:06
And now, you’re the first on my list  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 26 Apr 2021, 10:58
A fun prank to play on a long journey:

Make potato salad and put it in a travel-sickness bag. Do not let anyone see the contents of the bag.
Partway through the journey, pretend you're feeling ill. Make retching noises into the bag.
Take out a spoon, and start eating the potato salad.

Make sure you have some spare (empty) bags for your fellow passengers.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Apr 2021, 11:22
If your vomit looks like potato salad, you really should see a doctor.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 26 Apr 2021, 12:54
Gosh I love wedding drama. I hope Hannersis the Maid of Honor and Sven is the Best Man.

Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Platypodes on 26 Apr 2021, 13:40
My potluck wedding was AWESOME, just sayin'. "Everybody brings salad" is trivially easy to avoid: we sent out a google spreadsheet and said "if you know what you're going to bring, please enter it here." People who knew how to cook were excited about the special occasion and went all-out with their best cooking. People who didn't know how to cook brought drinks or something nice from a bakery or deli. Our friends raved for weeks afterward about how great the food was.

Bonus: the potluck was in lieu of gifts, and as two grown-ass adults we didn't want a bunch more household crap. And friends who didn't have a lot of money didn't feel like they were on the hook to buy us any fancy household crap.

If nobody in your social circle knows how to cook, you would have a problem. Otherwise, this is 100% a good idea.

(The food poisoning bit? I have been to literally hundreds of potlucks and never encountered this; seems weird to portray sharing food with friends as something dangerous and gross.)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 26 Apr 2021, 14:34
If your vomit looks like potato salad, you really should see a doctor.

True, but that's why you don't let people see it.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 26 Apr 2021, 15:05
If your vomit looks like potato salad, you really should see a doctor.
Alternatively: If your potato salad looks like vomit you should consult a chef.

Gosh I love wedding drama. I hope Hannersis the Maid of Honor and Sven is the Best Man.
Yeah, but is Dora going to be her own flower girl or not?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 26 Apr 2021, 18:32
My distaste for mayo extends to essentially most things creamy. If it were a very light coat of mayo on, say, a burger, I'd probably be fine with it. For that same reason, I enjoy fries with ketchup, jam on bread, etc. But biting into a sandwich and having it be liquid? I just don't get the appeal.

EDIT: Comic's up. To be fair, planning has never really been Tai's strong suit.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 26 Apr 2021, 19:40
If your vomit looks like potato salad, you really should see a doctor.
Alternatively: If your potato salad looks like vomit you should consult a chef.

Gosh I love wedding drama. I hope Hannersis the Maid of Honor and Sven is the Best Man.
Yeah, but is Dora going to be her own flower girl or not?

Yes, but her version of bridezilla will see her in a hospital bc of exhaustion for a few days as she stresses out over planning a wedding with a limited budget.

ETA: I don’t think she’ll invite Angus or Padme
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 26 Apr 2021, 19:42
Also, the people Tai knows are limited to:

- hookups/exes
- mutual friends with Dora
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Apr 2021, 20:27
Also, the people Tai knows are limited to:

- hookups/exes
This is true of most lesbians, in my experience. This is what our circles of friends are made of.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 26 Apr 2021, 20:36
Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.

I sometimes wish I was capable of hating something with half the vitriol that anti-mayo and anti-cilantro people direct towards their foodstuff of derision. It's impossible for either to be mentioned on the internet without someone swooping in like the damn Batsignal was lit and having an absolute pants-shitting tantrum and/or wishing death on anyone that likes the item in question.
Ditto for pineapple being put on a certain dish that was specifically invented for eating leftovers. You know, that one that Sicilians were the first to think to add tomato paste to. One of the dishes invented by poor folks that's facing gastric gentrification.

(Seriously, just add some habaneros. The heat and the zing they bring balances out the sweet and the savory.)

EDIT: typo fix.  May be time for a replacement phone.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 26 Apr 2021, 21:23
It's going to be really interesting to see more of Tai's background revealed.  I think Dora may be in for some surprises, and hopefully they don't cause real trouble between them.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: MrNumbers on 26 Apr 2021, 21:26
God knows whatever wedding I hold will have my half of the guest list attending by webcam.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Christophelous on 26 Apr 2021, 21:35
Wasn't expecting my forum browsing to end with not one, but two very delicious sounding foodstuffs. That lemon potato salad looks so good, Tova! And I've never thought to put habeneros on... that, Gyrre. Pineapple, ham, bacon, habenero... Gonna have to try that, and I know just the pizza place that will do it justice. Though... maybe jalepeno. I think my stomach would thank me for that decision later.

Edit: Tai's inability to understand fractions is concerning... but at least we can hope that the end result is a Dora allowing Tai to invite some of the people she's worried about saying no to. Best possible outcomes, however, don't always tend to happen...
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Shjade on 26 Apr 2021, 23:17
(The food poisoning bit? I have been to literally hundreds of potlucks and never encountered this; seems weird to portray sharing food with friends as something dangerous and gross.)
While perhaps a paranoid concern, that kind of concern isn't exactly out of character for Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 26 Apr 2021, 23:27
Also, she runs a public eatery; professional paranoia about spoilage (and being sued) is a survival trait.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 27 Apr 2021, 06:29
have added
be tolerant of underlings dietary deficiencies
to my
when i become evil overlord list
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 27 Apr 2021, 07:01
I like Tai's list. I'd do that...
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DSL on 27 Apr 2021, 11:48
Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.

I sometimes wish I was capable of hating something with half the vitriol that anti-mayo and anti-cilantro people direct towards their foodstuff of derision. It's impossible for either to be mentioned on the internet without someone swooping in like the damn Batsignal was lit and having an absolute pants-shitting tantrum and/or wishing death on anyone that likes the item in question.

The anti-ketchup/catsup people can be just as amusingly vitriolic.
I mean, I'm not crazy about the stuff except for two specific uses (baked on top of a  meatloaf or a topper for a paper picnic plate full of crinkle-cut french fries) but for me it's enough to say: "I don't like catsup/ketchup" but I don't need it to go any farther.
The anti-mayo people though -- gotta watch'em. Some of them like (dundunDUN) Miracle Whip.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DSL on 27 Apr 2021, 11:51
I like Tai's list. I'd do that...
She could at least yield her allotment (other than Taimom and Taidad) to Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 27 Apr 2021, 12:33
Hi DSL!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Apr 2021, 12:43
Ketchup is okay. Mustard is nasty, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 27 Apr 2021, 14:19
You say that like mustard is a monolithic block of a singular substance…
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Tova on 27 Apr 2021, 14:26
Well, there’s only, what, three types of mustard seed. If you dislike the flavour of them, the variety of preparations won’t help a great deal.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: hedgie on 27 Apr 2021, 14:38
Ketchup is okay. Mustard is nasty, though.

Red or brown ketchup?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Apr 2021, 14:39
You say that like mustard is a monolithic block of a singular substance…
All mustards suck.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 27 Apr 2021, 14:59
There is a time and a place for every condiment. Mustard goes great on a ham and cheese sandwich.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 27 Apr 2021, 18:17
New comic.

Oh dear. I hope Dora doesn't start thinking that Tai isn't taking the wedding seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 27 Apr 2021, 18:37
I'm kinda with Tai here, to be honest. Like, she really doesn't have anyone she wants to invite that isn't on Dora's list...is there a problem with that?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 27 Apr 2021, 18:37
Dora, take a few, deep breaths.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: solemnwar on 27 Apr 2021, 19:42
I think the issue is that Dora's been agonizing on who she can invite and who she has to "cut" from the wedding... when all this time Tai's only had 2 people she wanted to invite to the wedding, which frees up Dora to invite a lot more people than she originally thought, thus making all of the agonizing she's been doing pointless. Tai presumably should have noticed how much Dora was fretting over these decisions and informed her earlier.

I can understand why Tai *didn't* tell Dora - sometimes you just sincerely don't think about these things, it's happened to me a lot - but if I were Dora I'd still be really annoyed that all the stress I'd just been through wasn't necessary and could've been alleviated if she'd informed her earlier.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Shjade on 27 Apr 2021, 21:30
"This is escalating and I don't know why" is such a relatable sentiment.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 27 Apr 2021, 21:32
That and Dora probably doesn’t think it’s healthy that they’re that deeply tied together — Tai’s current best friend is Dora’s old boyfriend.

Their social circle is both A LOT and actually very small.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Christophelous on 27 Apr 2021, 22:07
This is exactly what I was hoping wouldn't happen. Come on, Jeph, let Dora show some character growth and not bite her SO's head off. At the minimum, let Tai's calm be the foil to Dora's panic, and show us why they work so well.

"This is escalating and I don't know why" is such a relatable sentiment.

Yeah, it's almost sad how much I relate to that, too
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DaiJB on 27 Apr 2021, 22:54
Problem's pretty basic: Dora has friends, Tai has anonymous stoner acquaintances and old flings!  :wink:

I can imagine Dora finding Tai's admission of no close family or friends a bit sad. Also that Tai has no problem with not caring about literally anyone (except her parents) prior to meeting Dora's (and Marten's) circle...

New comic.

Oh dear. I hope Dora doesn't start thinking that Tai isn't taking the wedding seriously.

That is a worry - Dora's insecurity is an old bogeyman that could loom up again ("What if Tai's feeling for me isn't love? What if she's just experienced real friendship for the first time and is just overwhelmed by the knowledge that someone actually cares??")
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: starkruzr on 27 Apr 2021, 23:07
I'm kinda with Tai here, to be honest. Like, she really doesn't have anyone she wants to invite that isn't on Dora's list...is there a problem with that?
I mean... it *is* kinda weird and slightly alarming to discover that your partner's entire social and family life with the exception of her parents hinges around you. Like, if Tai's history is that bad you'd think they would have discussed it by now and Dora wouldn't be so surprised?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: St.Clair on 27 Apr 2021, 23:10
"Why aren't you approaching this task like an obsessive control freak, that is to say, correctly?"
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 Apr 2021, 23:43
You say that like mustard is a monolithic block of a singular substance…

Being that I work in a condiment factor that produces A LOT of prepared yellow mustard and at least four separate varieties of honey mustard, I've had to branch out.

There's horseradish honey mustard, spicy brown mustard, white mustard, habanero honey mustard, cracked seed mustard [1], etc. And that's not even getting into the mixes Heinz did a year or so ago[2].

[1] Practically all mustard has chunks of seed in it. Who is this stuff even for?
[2] I still wonder if these limited runs were to save costs for some colossal batching screw up.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: oddtail on 28 Apr 2021, 00:47
[1] Practically all mustard has chunks of seed in it. Who is this stuff even for?

*raises hand* depending on what it's for and my mood, I like mustard with mustard seeds in it.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 28 Apr 2021, 00:48
That and Dora probably doesn’t think it’s healthy that they’re that deeply tied together — Tai’s current best friend is Dora’s old boyfriend.

Their social circle is both A LOT and actually very small.
It's a rather glaring omission that Marten and Claire are not on Tai's list.  I would expect them to sit on Tai's side of the...whatever venue you use for a secular gay wedding.

To be fair, Tai and Dora have made social contacts since they became a couple that "belong" to both of them.

I wonder if Sven is on Dora's list?  And she really should accept his offer to help pay for the damn thing.  Weddings are stupid expensive.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 28 Apr 2021, 01:20
It's a rather glaring omission that Marten and Claire are not on Tai's list.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Either she actually doesn't care about having Marten at her wedding, or she hasn't thought deeply enough about it to register that she should invite Marten etc. Either of those possibilities is a bit concerning, though in different ways.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: SpanielBear on 28 Apr 2021, 01:29
It's a rather glaring omission that Marten and Claire are not on Tai's list.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Either she actually doesn't care about having Marten at her wedding, or she hasn't thought deeply enough about it to register that she should invite Marten etc. Either of those possibilities is a bit concerning, though in different ways.

Weren’t the core gang already invited when the wedding was declared? So this exercise is about who else to include?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Fuzzlepuzzle on 28 Apr 2021, 01:32
Weddings take a lot of effort and energy to plan, and Dora might be feeling like Tai's not been pulling her weight on the "not-fun" stuff. Dora's been putting a lot of effort and energy into planning this particular unfun part, like making sure her guests will have compatible people sitting with them, so that no one's left as the awkward person out who doesn't know anyone and who no one will approach.

I think Tai does have people she wants to invite, like Marten and probably Claire, but she just assumes Dora will remember to invite them herself. She's pushing the labor of remembering everyone off on Dora. And Dora probably knows that Tai's "whatever you want" is actually conditional, even if she doesn't realize it -- if Marten wasn't invited, she'd probably be upset. So now Dora has to decide who's on the invite list not just for herself, but for Tai as well, and hope she doesn't miss anyone who Tai wanted invited but didn't think to mention because she assumed Dora would invite them.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 28 Apr 2021, 02:09
[1] Practically all mustard has chunks of seed in it. Who is this stuff even for?

*raises hand* depending on what it's for and my mood, I like mustard with mustard seeds in it.
It's 'cracked seed' like cracked wheat bread. The seeds aren't ground up very well, if at all. It would utterly fail the grind test we do for the yellow mustard at work.  Like a 12 or a 14 on the grind test[1] if it even registered below a 20 on the low end[2].

[1]target is 2.5 at the lowest to pass.
[2] The 'low end' refers to how ground down the seeds are. Finely ground seeds are on the high end, at .25 to 1. The higher the number, the lower the grind.

EDIT: looks like I spaced on specifying 'below a 20' when I typed this. BTW 20 is the lowest grind on our equipment.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: awkwardness on 28 Apr 2021, 02:33
We haven't delved into Tai's past much, perhaps there's a good reason why she hasn't had family visit and why she has no outside friends- bad fallout over her sexuality? recluse in high school?

Other than her former coworkers and Marten, she hasn't hung out with anyone else so maybe she just doesn't need a big circle of people to tell her that she's beautiful and take a lot of picture for social media?

Also: not cool, Dora! You're becoming bridezilla there...
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Annemoon on 28 Apr 2021, 02:34
Weddings take a lot of effort and energy to plan, and Dora might be feeling like Tai's not been pulling her weight on the "not-fun" stuff. Dora's been putting a lot of effort and energy into planning this particular unfun part, like making sure her guests will have compatible people sitting with them, so that no one's left as the awkward person out who doesn't know anyone and who no one will approach.

I think Tai does have people she wants to invite, like Marten and probably Claire, but she just assumes Dora will remember to invite them herself. She's pushing the labor of remembering everyone off on Dora. And Dora probably knows that Tai's "whatever you want" is actually conditional, even if she doesn't realize it -- if Marten wasn't invited, she'd probably be upset. So now Dora has to decide who's on the invite list not just for herself, but for Tai as well, and hope she doesn't miss anyone who Tai wanted invited but didn't think to mention because she assumed Dora would invite them.

Exactly what I would want to mention. Tai is effectively putting the whole responsibility and effort of the complete task onto Dora.
It's a similar principle as with house chores, if you're both doing them, but one person has to check when every task is needed, remind the other person to do it,
that person is not only getting the stuff of doing the task but also the mental effort of holding the responsibility.

Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Potato Farmer on 28 Apr 2021, 03:46
I'm just hoping it's something as straightforward as "If I knew that I could have made a longer list", or maybe "Now I have to also think about who you would want to be there."

If Dora starts thinking that Tai is not taking the wedding seriously or something that's a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 28 Apr 2021, 05:39
I assumed people like Marten and Claire were a given and these lists had more to do with people from Dora and Tai's independent social groups, people each of them wanted to invite that the other didn't know, or weren't close enough to themselves (hence, the mention of family members and old college friends.)

I really feel where Tai's coming from, myself. If my boyfriend and I got married, I would be in the same situation - worse, even, since both my parents are dead. I can think of only one person I might want to invite, and she lives in a different country. So, yeah, I can easily imagine not being able to come up with a whole list of people to invite to your wedding.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: stayctee on 28 Apr 2021, 07:50
I'm kinda with Tai here, to be honest. Like, she really doesn't have anyone she wants to invite that isn't on Dora's list...is there a problem with that?
I mean... it *is* kinda weird and slightly alarming to discover that your partner's entire social and family life with the exception of her parents hinges around you. Like, if Tai's history is that bad you'd think they would have discussed it by now and Dora wouldn't be so surprised?

Yeah really. Why is Dora just finding out about this now? I could see how it would be annoying that your partner wouldn't at least pick up on your energy and try to feign interest around it. Being blatantly "meh" while they're obsessing is a tad tone deaf.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Elder Sign on 28 Apr 2021, 08:41
As with every reasonably well-written argument between characters, both of them have legitimate points as well as glaring flaws:

- Tai has every right to invite as few people as she wants to witness her and Dora getting married; she's not obligated to invite as many people as Dora does, nor to over-obsess about who to invite or not.  At the same time, though, she certainly seems to be letting Dora do all the heavy lifting in terms of organization.

- Dora has every right to put as much thought and effort as she wants into her invitation list, and is justifiably frustrated with Tai for, at least outwardly, not treating a momentous occasion for the two of them with more thought and seriousness like it deserves.  At the same time, though, it's not justified to immediately flip out just because the other person isn't also a control freak in all things (and they wouldn't work long as a pair if they both were).

That said, on an out-of-universe level, it feels to me like this is a plot vehicle to sink Dora and Tai's engagement and relationship, both since they are older established non-AI members of the main cast (with all of whom Jeph is plainly and abundantly bored) and because a separate stable lesbian relationship exists (Faye and Bubbles) and the storyline doesn't necessarily need two running at once.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 28 Apr 2021, 09:27
There are multiple straight relationships in the comic, why aren't those "unnecessary"? Surely one is enough.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Shjade on 28 Apr 2021, 09:41
Yeah, when you start veering off into amateur mind-reading of the author's interest in their characters you're getting deep into the weeds.

This conflict makes sense for both of them. It's not something that had to be manufactured to sink the relationship, and I seriously doubt whatever this is is going to sink anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: oddtail on 28 Apr 2021, 10:10
This conflict makes sense for both of them.

I would honestly go so far as to say that - in my opinion - it's one of the best-written interactions, the most rooted in character personalities and motivations, I've seen in this comic in a long time.

Dora is frustrated, and a little unreasonable, the way I expect Dora to be (and the way we've *seen* her act). Her reaction doesn't make much rational sense, but she does seem to *know* it doesn't. And on an emotional level, the reaction is not completely crazy or out of the left field. It makes emotional sense, at least to me.

I find it all interesting, and am excited to know where the conversation will go next.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: dutchrvl on 28 Apr 2021, 10:41
I was going to make fun of anti-mayo people, but then I realized that no matter what the foodstuff, there will always be people who dislike it, and I am not really one to say anything about weird dislikes, since I hate popcorn (mostly because of the smell, I find the flavor just boring), do not like icecream, mint (except fresh mint-tea), and peanutbutter (unless as a sauce base for Asian dishes).

That said, being from the Netherlands I still do not understand why people in the US insist on ketchup to eat their fries with instead of mayo. I do like Curry Ketchup with fries though, which is oddly hard to find in the US.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: dutchrvl on 28 Apr 2021, 10:48
I'm kinda with Tai here, to be honest. Like, she really doesn't have anyone she wants to invite that isn't on Dora's list...is there a problem with that?
I mean... it *is* kinda weird and slightly alarming to discover that your partner's entire social and family life with the exception of her parents hinges around you. Like, if Tai's history is that bad you'd think they would have discussed it by now and Dora wouldn't be so surprised?

I don't think it's necessarily bad if one person's social circle basically hinges around their SO. It seems to work quite often. Personally I am not a fan, if anything because you run the risk of subconsciously not wanting t break up out of fear your SO will be left without any social circle, and THAT is certainly an unhealthy situation.

But, this situation is a little different though. Tai already became part of the social group prior to getting involved with Dora. It's not like she started dating Dora and that's when she started meeting everybody. They simply have the same social circle and as such it's not that strange Tai doesn't have anyone in addition to Dora's list.

More worrying is that Dora apparently wasn't aware that this is the case. Either Dora has not been very actively interested in Tai's life (including before Dora), or Tai has been very closed off about her life.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 28 Apr 2021, 11:18
When my wife and I got married, aside from two or three people, all of our friends were mutual. We had the same social circle. Is it really that unusual?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Shjade on 28 Apr 2021, 11:32
I think the issue may be more that they weren't communicating/coordinating about this. Maybe?

Like, there's no rule saying they couldn't come up with the same guest list even if they share a social circle*. But rather than come up with her own guest list, Tai just assumed Dora would handle it. I think this is more or less what some other people noted in this thread already, and while I don't think Tai would have thought of this as putting responsibility on Dora, it is pretty in character for her to shirk responsibility in general.

Clear example that comes to mind: Claire having been told to tell Tai she needed her evaluation a week before it was due to get Tai to actually do it on time. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3108)

Dora runs her own business and is pretty big on control. Tai is laid back to a fault. To me that seems like all this is, those two extremely contrasting qualities causing friction.


Edit: also relevant re: Tai's social circle, "I, uh...I don't really have 'other friends.'" (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2267)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 28 Apr 2021, 12:45
I think the issue may be more that they weren't communicating/coordinating about this. Maybe?

Like, there's no rule saying they couldn't come up with the same guest list even if they share a social circle*. But rather than come up with her own guest list, Tai just assumed Dora would handle it. I think this is more or less what some other people noted in this thread already, and while I don't think Tai would have thought of this as putting responsibility on Dora, it is pretty in character for her to shirk responsibility in general.

Clear example that comes to mind: Claire having been told to tell Tai she needed her evaluation a week before it was due to get Tai to actually do it on time. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3108)

Dora runs her own business and is pretty big on control. Tai is laid back to a fault. To me that seems like all this is, those two extremely contrasting qualities causing friction.


Edit: also relevant re: Tai's social circle, "I, uh...I don't really have 'other friends.'" (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2267)

I forgot how much I missed that art style.

But yes, I think the issue is that Tai is (willfully?) not involved.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 28 Apr 2021, 18:18
Comic's up.

Y'know, I've always preferred the sans-dingbat fonts to the dingbat ones, for some reason.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Fuzzlepuzzle on 28 Apr 2021, 18:22
So Tai listed three things she was responsible for, and all of them Dora is doing now. Is Tai currently doing any wedding planning? Cause if she is, why didn't she mention the things that are still her responsibility? It's fine to not help with certain things as long as you are still carrying your weight.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 28 Apr 2021, 18:31
Not Hannelore. Tilly!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 28 Apr 2021, 18:47
Dora, you're overthinking this. Alot.  :laugh: :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 28 Apr 2021, 18:54
At least they're talking through the issues, which is good.

But yeah, what IS on Tai's plate at the moment?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: dreed on 28 Apr 2021, 18:55
As accountant I say Dora's approach is very sensible and easy to use
+1 as support.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Hypersapien on 28 Apr 2021, 18:55
I keep having to remind myself that they aren't going through a pandemic.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 28 Apr 2021, 19:40
🥺 please let the wedding conflict be Faye getting jealous of Hanners being Dora’s Maid of Honor because Hanners is more trustworthy/reliable. 🥺 I feel like there’s some processing over Faye’s reliability/volatility that would be such fun to explore.

Also, DANG has Dora grown as a character.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 28 Apr 2021, 19:45
Not Hannelore. Tilly!


Did Tai and Tilly ever meet?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 28 Apr 2021, 20:08
[1] Practically all mustard has chunks of seed in it. Who is this stuff even for?

*raises hand* depending on what it's for and my mood, I like mustard with mustard seeds in it.
It's 'cracked seed' like cracked wheat bread. The seeds aren't ground up very well, if at all. It would utterly fail the grind test we do for the yellow mustard at work.  Like a 12 or a 14 on the grind test[1] if it even registered on the low end[2].

[1]target is 2.5 at the lowest to pass.
[2] The 'low end' refers to how ground down the seeds are. Finely ground seeds are on the high end, at .25 to 1. The higher the number, the lower the grind.

Just to throw in: Middleton, WI. has a mustard museum.  My guess is that they could answer any questions about the subject.  Also, it is thought they have a tasting bar for evaluations.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 28 Apr 2021, 20:09
I lived in Madison for three years. My opinions about mustard were not popular there.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 28 Apr 2021, 20:10
Not Hannelore. Tilly!

If Tilly goes, she could bring Station's holodrone as her +1.

EDIT: fixed quote tags (Gnabberwocky)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 28 Apr 2021, 20:36
Also: should you get married if you can’t plan a big project together? It seems like Tai and Dora have wildly incompatible project management approaches, and that Tai is strategically incompetent when necessary to get out of their share of the work
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 28 Apr 2021, 20:46
"And this column is for people wbo're allowed to know we're married but not allowed to know we have kids."

Geeze. That'd be a hell of a form of revenge.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 28 Apr 2021, 20:49
I think the issue may be more that they weren't communicating/coordinating about this. Maybe?

Like, there's no rule saying they couldn't come up with the same guest list even if they share a social circle*. But rather than come up with her own guest list, Tai just assumed Dora would handle it. I think this is more or less what some other people noted in this thread already, and while I don't think Tai would have thought of this as putting responsibility on Dora, it is pretty in character for her to shirk responsibility in general.

Clear example that comes to mind: Claire having been told to tell Tai she needed her evaluation a week before it was due to get Tai to actually do it on time. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3108)

Dora runs her own business and is pretty big on control. Tai is laid back to a fault. To me that seems like all this is, those two extremely contrasting qualities causing friction.


Edit: also relevant re: Tai's social circle, "I, uh...I don't really have 'other friends.'" (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2267)

I forgot how much I missed that art style.

But yes, I think the issue is that Tai is (willfully?) not involved.

People can be a lot to deal with sometimes. Perhaps she's gotten proverbially burned in the past.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 28 Apr 2021, 21:10
Oh, I got it.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 28 Apr 2021, 21:28
Uff, Dora sliding back into bad old habits.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Apr 2021, 21:30
Also: should you get married if you can’t plan a big project together? It seems like Tai and Dora have wildly incompatible project management approaches, and that Tai is strategically incompetent when necessary to get out of their share of the work

Did Tai switch to they/them pronouns? As of https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=974 Tai said chocolate pronouns were good.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DaiJB on 28 Apr 2021, 22:28
Anyone else have the impression that Dora's been planning her wedding (consciously or subconsciously) for a very long time?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: St.Clair on 29 Apr 2021, 01:08
I think it's important that Tai clearly understands what who she's marrying.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 29 Apr 2021, 02:40
Tai and Dora know each other well, they were friends for years before they started dating. This is the first big event that they are planning together though, so it will require more communication from both of them. Dora attacks and plans this like she does with everything, whereas Tai is a bit more laid back with a "she'll be right" attitude. They should be able to work through this and play to each other's strengths if they just keep talking openly and honestly.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 29 Apr 2021, 05:02
Once again, I can sympathize with Tai; my eyes glaze over whenever spreadsheets and statistics come into play.  :-\  If I had to plan something like this, I'd just make a broad list, send out invites, see who confirms and go from there.

On the other hand, "well, I just figured you'd be cool with handling this on your own, because you're better at it than me" doesn't quite fly either, especially since it seems to encompass the whole of the wedding preparations. Surely there must be something Tai could handle, or at the very least they could work on it together, which they seem to be trying to do now so...fingers crossed.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 29 Apr 2021, 05:05
I can’t think of anything Tai can do if she’s that uncomfortable with dates, contracts, research, etc. Even setting up a DJ or a band requires making a list of some kind.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 29 Apr 2021, 06:42
I can’t think of anything Tai can do if she’s that uncomfortable with dates, contracts, research, etc. Even setting up a DJ or a band requires making a list of some kind.
She could write Harry Potter books. September first on a Monday seven years in a row is fine, no-one will notice!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: weisbm on 29 Apr 2021, 06:47
I remember my wife and I planning our wedding.  Honestly it looked about like this. 
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Platypodes on 29 Apr 2021, 07:18
Also: should you get married if you can’t plan a big project together? It seems like Tai and Dora have wildly incompatible project management approaches, and that Tai is strategically incompetent when necessary to get out of their share of the work
I think they should expect to have serious friction around this difference for the very long term, and I hope they've discussed that and are prepared to cope. But if they are prepared to cope, it could be the kind of difference that's a net positive or at least a net neutral  in their lives. Each of them has strength in an area where the other is weak, and they can counterbalance each other and help each other to grow. Dora can learn to chill a little; Tai can learn to hold up her end when it's really important. Negotiating that is gonna be stressful; they're gonna argue and get on each other's nerves for sure. But they're doing pretty well right now, talking it through without a blow-up and finding a compromise.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: hedgie on 29 Apr 2021, 09:08
This is why, if I ever get hitched, it’s going to be eloping.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: sitnspin on 29 Apr 2021, 10:01
If I ever get married again, which I almost certainly will not, there will be no ceremony, just a party. One wedding (and marriage) was enough.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 29 Apr 2021, 10:07
Dora runs her own business and is pretty big on control. Tai is laid back to a fault. To me that seems like all this is, those two extremely contrasting qualities causing friction.

Gosh, you could base a long-running broadway play on that sort of pairing.

Maybe even a television series.

(Sometimes when discussing conflicts in relationships I say "This isn't a man/woman issue, this is a Felix/Oscar issue.")
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 29 Apr 2021, 10:12
"And this column is for people wbo're allowed to know we're married but not allowed to know we have kids."

Geeze. That'd be a hell of a form of revenge.

Was it Tai and Dora about whom Hannelore said "We're working on that technology, OK?"

And what is their couple name?  Tora?

Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 29 Apr 2021, 10:15
I can’t think of anything Tai can do if she’s that uncomfortable with dates, contracts, research, etc. Even setting up a DJ or a band requires making a list of some kind.

Least of all run a library.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 29 Apr 2021, 10:25
Anyone else have the impression that Dora's been planning her wedding (consciously or subconsciously) for a very long time?  :-D

I am reminded of Lady Alys Vorpatril from Lois McMaster Bujold's A Civil Campaign.  "I've seen planetary invasions pulled off with less planning than your mother is putting into this wedding."  Though, in that case it was justified--a bachelor emperor was getting married for the first time in many generations, and she had to make sure all the traditions were followed to placate the more conservative elements of the aristocracy.  (Lady Alys wasn't the one getting married, but she was responsible for all of the emperor's social details and took her job very seriously.)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 29 Apr 2021, 10:33
Did Tai switch to they/them pronouns? As of https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=974 Tai said chocolate pronouns were good.

Huh?  I just read that strip and I see no mention of "chocolate" pronouns, only that traditional female pronouns were fine because she never identified as anything other than female, she just went for a "butch" look in the past.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: dna_level_c on 29 Apr 2021, 11:22
"chocolate" pronouns

Her/She. I had to look it up.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: oddtail on 29 Apr 2021, 12:14
"chocolate" pronouns

Her/She. I had to look it up.

...I only just got it now.

(in my defense, I'm only aware of Hershey brand's/company's existence via the Internet.)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 29 Apr 2021, 12:18
It tastes like vomit. I thought it was just "haha those wacky Americans can't make proper chocolate" before I tried it, but it really does have a vomity aftertaste. Google tells me it is butyric acid, which would also explain why the the chemistry classrooms (and the whole floor they were on) at my college would periodically smell of warm sick.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: oddtail on 29 Apr 2021, 12:38
Yeah, that was what I found as well. Butyric acid in sufficient qualities smells pretty much like vomit. Apparently (based on reading Reddit threads) Americans are used to the distinct smell.

Slighty off topic, whenever there's a discussion about food (especially cheese/beer/chocolate/bread), Americans tend to get defensive and say "well, if you go out of your way to buy PROPER cheese/beer/chocolate/bread, it's actually fine". I understand it must be tiresome when Europeans (and snobbish Americans) shit on anything American, but I never understood this logic.

The issue - from what I hear, I haven't lived in the US, so I don't know the food quality - is that in most European countries, you can buy store-brand beer, or cheap cheese, or bread from the bakery section of a supermarket, and have a satisfying experience with what you buy. The fact that people make the argument "well, you have to buy high-quality stuff" in the first place suggests that the cheap stuff is no good in the US?

I tend to shop at what is probably close to the Polish grocery equivalent of Walmart, I'm careful not to overspend - and I don't eat completely crappy food unless I specifically go for it.

I get why some food and drinks in Europe can be seen as having an over-inflated reputation. Like, I'm no wine connoisseur, but I think French wine is WAY overrated. I prefer stuff from, like, Hungary, and my wife always goes for South American wines. But the fact remains that you can get like a 5€ bottle of wine in Paris, and it's more likely than not to be pretty good (and stuff in Paris is *expensive*, so it makes 5€ seem even cheaper). I feel similarly about food in Europe in general, from my limited experience. In Poland in particular, you can eat for dirt cheap without much trouble and much searching - especially with stuff that's part of Polish culinary tradition (like sausages and whatnot).

[/rant]

But again, I haven't been to the US, so I fully accept that the horribleness of common American food might be hugely overexaggerated. I'll admit that whatever I ate that I've been told is "regular" American food - especially chocolate-based stuff - was less than impressive.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 29 Apr 2021, 13:17
The source of the sour taste of Hershey chocolate is that the process for making it was originally designed to use sour milk. At the time they started, no refrigeration was available and Hershey wasn’t near a dairy farm, so sour milk was all they could get. After refrigeration became available, they started using fresh milk and souring it using butyric acid to keep the taste of the chocolate from changing.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Marco on 29 Apr 2021, 13:36
When my wife and I got married, aside from two or three people, all of our friends were mutual. We had the same social circle. Is it really that unusual?

Not at all. I'm the least socially apt people I know, so I kind of borrowed my wife's friends as mine.

As for the wedding list, my family is from german origin, and my wife's is brazilian, so orders of magnitude bigger than mine. So 9/10 of the church/party people was her list...
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 29 Apr 2021, 14:19
I can’t think of anything Tai can do if she’s that uncomfortable with dates, contracts, research, etc. Even setting up a DJ or a band requires making a list of some kind.


Tai is a DJ. Coming up with a band / DJ should be right up her alley. Surely she has contacts?


It tastes like vomit. I thought it was just "haha those wacky Americans can't make proper chocolate" before I tried it, but it really does have a vomity aftertaste. Google tells me it is butyric acid, which would also explain why the the chemistry classrooms (and the whole floor they were on) at my college would periodically smell of warm sick.


That is actually true? Ew, definitely not trying American chocolate then. Whittaker's all the way!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 29 Apr 2021, 14:53
On the one hand, Hershey’s is not the only American chocolate out there and there is some good stuff. On the other hand, my favorite chocolate brand is from Germany.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 29 Apr 2021, 16:07
Not Hannelore. Tilly!

Did Tai and Tilly ever meet?

Apparently not, according to Cesium133's character tag thingie, (Thanks, Ces.)
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 29 Apr 2021, 18:16
Comic's up.

Bubbles would like some drinks to smell, but I doubt that would make much of a dent in the budget.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 29 Apr 2021, 19:19
You might have to have EV style charging stations, tho....  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 29 Apr 2021, 19:37
You might have to have EV style charging stations, tho....  :laugh:

Or a QR code for a tastings app?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: shanejayell on 29 Apr 2021, 19:56
Or those USB drives that make robots drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 29 Apr 2021, 20:01
I don't think I've ever seen Bubbles drink robot beer before. Then again, she doesn't spend a lot of time in bars, and when she does she's mostly looking out for Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Apr 2021, 20:04
I am rather fond of some of Mars products, especially those little dot-like candies with the upside-down w’s on them, and the caramel-vanilla nougat-dark chocolate concoction formerly known as Forever Yours.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: jesslc on 29 Apr 2021, 21:01
I don't think I've ever seen Bubbles drink robot beer before. Then again, she doesn't spend a lot of time in bars, and when she does she's mostly looking out for Faye.
I wonder if Dora & Tai will remember Faye's alcoholism. They forgot about it last time when they invited their friends to celebrate their engagement at a bar so it'd be nice to see them remember it now. (I wouldn't necessarily expect them to change anything because of it but I'd like to see them remember it. If anything, the most I'd expect is that they maybe have a quiet chat with Faye & Bubbles before the wedding).

I'm also wondering how Faye's going to go with a wedding reception. I know she wouldn't want anyone to make a big deal out of it. But she probably also won't want to leave early if she's not coping well because this is such a big occasion. Perhaps this could this be an opportunity for Jeph to run a "relapse and then having to get back on the wagon" story line...?

I just re-read a well written fanfic that covers alcoholism in a sensitive and very realistic way, so the topic is at the front of my mind. Among other things it did a great job of showing how a big event can put a lot of stress on someone's sobriety. (Story is Glass Half Full by pir8fancier, if you're into fanfic (or even if you're not)).
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: pendrake on 29 Apr 2021, 21:03
For comic #4515... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4515)

1. As always, I never tire of Dora's business/money sense.  Dora could give Scrooge McDuck a run for his money.  ;$

2. I actually think there would be a minimal cost to providing Bubbles (& any other AI guests) something to scent-enjoy, though(?).
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: DaiJB on 29 Apr 2021, 23:18
 :laugh: Love Dora's expression in the last panel!

Tai is helping! - by preventing Dora's mercenary side from turning this into an AI only affair  :-D

They don't want too many AIs attending anyway, when you consider that some of them are either pure trouble (I'm looking at you, Pintsize and May), or - how should I put this? - bat-shit crazy (Yes, I'm looking at you Melon). Add a few random factors like Yay or Beeps and you're probably looking at a disaster waiting to happen...
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: dutchrvl on 30 Apr 2021, 07:45
On the one hand, Hershey’s is not the only American chocolate out there and there is some good stuff. On the other hand, my favorite chocolate brand is from Germany.

Ritter Sport for the win!

Anyway, as a European who has lived in the US for 13 years now, I think some of the criticism of US foods is indeed exaggerated.
It's not like we don't have crap food in Europe, and it's definitely not like it's difficult to find good food in the US. I do think really crap food is more ubiquitous in the US, and more damningly, the difference in price between crap food and decent food is generally greater than in Europe, IMHO.

BUT (there's always a but), Hershey's is pretty terrible in my opinion, because of above aspects. Other US chocolate is just fine though.
American regular supermarket sliced bread is not good, but that might be because I am grew up with very good bread in NW EUrope. But, it's not difficult to find good bread, it's just a little more expensive.

 
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: awkwardness on 30 Apr 2021, 13:01
I'm loving this new storyline, the two are growing as characters as we see a side of Dora that she tries to hide but is also a good explanation for why her coffee roasting is so great: dedication and focus. Tai's laidback acceptance of Dora's faults and wanting her to do her thing even though it's making Tai look bad shows that she's thinking of Dora first even if it's not what's needed.

There was talk a few weeks ago about strong relationships? This is the foundation of one: directing your spouse without controlling. Tai needs direction, Dora is trying to do that.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 30 Apr 2021, 15:12
I forgot about Ritter Sport! How did I manage to do that? Used to love that brand.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Apr 2021, 17:15
Unfortunately, Ritter Sport seems to be fairly hard to find around here. The only store I've found that has it only carries the peppermint version, which is my least favorite version.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 30 Apr 2021, 18:18
I really dislike peppermint with chocolate, after an unfortunate encounter with an After Eight in my youth.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Apr 2021, 21:45
The Ritter Sport version that I like the most but haven't been able to find for a long time is yogurt. I'm generally not a fan of yogurt (not strongly opposed, just won't go seeking it out...), but with chocolate it works pretty well.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 30 Apr 2021, 22:21
On the one hand, Hershey’s is not the only American chocolate out there and there is some good stuff. On the other hand, my favorite chocolate brand is from Germany.

Ritter Sport for the win!

Anyway, as a European who has lived in the US for 13 years now, I think some of the criticism of US foods is indeed exaggerated.
It's not like we don't have crap food in Europe, and it's definitely not like it's difficult to find good food in the US. I do think really crap food is more ubiquitous in the US, and more damningly, the difference in price between crap food and decent food is generally greater than in Europe, IMHO.

BUT (there's always a but), Hershey's is pretty terrible in my opinion, because of above aspects. Other US chocolate is just fine though.
American regular supermarket sliced bread is not good, but that might be because I am grew up with very good bread in NW EUrope. But, it's not difficult to find good bread, it's just a little more expensive.

Re: supermarket banana bread;
The notion that homemade food trumps storebought versions exists for good reason here.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: John Allenson on 01 May 2021, 07:07
What I'd bring to a potluck.
Dependent on whether warm food could be kept warm:  Mormon potatoes (hot) or a couscous vegetarian dish (cold).

An AI they should invite, Hannelore's companion Winslow.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2021, 08:48
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Oenone on 01 May 2021, 09:36
Do you think we’ll get any surprises for plus ones?
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Nepiophage on 01 May 2021, 13:25
comng late to the party — but Spathe ham of course
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Nepiophage on 01 May 2021, 13:30

Just...why people.  What is the appeal to macaroni and potato salads?
They are delicious.

Eww, no.  When I take over the world, anyone caught using mayonaisse will get death by impalement.
Dracarys
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Nepiophage on 01 May 2021, 13:55
I was going to make fun of anti-mayo people, but then I realized that no matter what the foodstuff, there will always be people who dislike it, and I am not really one to say anything about weird dislikes, since I hate popcorn (mostly because of the smell, I find the flavor just boring), do not like icecream, mint (except fresh mint-tea), and peanutbutter (unless as a sauce base for Asian dishes).

That said, being from the Netherlands I still do not understand why people in the US insist on ketchup to eat their fries with instead of mayo. I do like Curry Ketchup with fries though, which is oddly hard to find in the US.

Samouri sauce!
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 03 May 2021, 09:09
Up in the "Old Wadsworth" neighborhood of Westminster someone opened what is supposed to be a Belgian style pomme frittes shop with a bunch of different things to put on your french fries, including several flavours of mayonaise.  Yummy.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 03 May 2021, 14:16
Mayonnaise on fries is the Best Thing Ever. Aioli comes a close second (since that is basically mayonnaise with garlic anyway).

It's a Dutch/Belgian thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Gyrre on 04 May 2021, 02:56
Mayonnaise on fries is the Best Thing Ever. Aioli comes a close second (since that is basically mayonnaise with garlic anyway).

It's a Dutch/Belgian thing.

It might depend on the fries, the person, or both -- but I think I like the aioli more. Honey mustard[1] is pretty dang good, too. And just straight up honey is about the only way to make American McDonald's fries edible for me[2]

[1] especially spicy honey mustard
[2]Yes, they're much different here. And terrible. Nineteen ingredients instead of the simple potatoes, lard, and salt most of the rest of the world gets.Burger King's are about the same, if not somehow worse.

EDIT: just, not nust
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: tmv on 04 May 2021, 04:21
I prefer to have both ketchup and mayonnaise on my fries. But I also kind of like Javascript (not on fries) so I might just be some kind of pervert.
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: flondrix on 04 May 2021, 06:55
I prefer to have both ketchup and mayonnaise on my fries. But I also kind of like Javascript (not on fries) so I might just be some kind of pervert.

I wish I had saved the actual quote from back in the Usenet days, but it went something like "I know three people who claim to have eaten human placenta.  All three have written device drivers for Unix.  I do not think this is a coincidence."
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: pwhodges on 04 May 2021, 09:37
I'm afraid it doesn't hold true.  A friend of mine cooked and ate the placenta from her first birth, and anyone less likely to write a Unix device driver you cannot imagine (she's a Celtic harpist).
Title: Re: WCDT 26-30 April 2021 (4511-4515)
Post by: Farideh on 04 May 2021, 14:13
Doesn't placenta kind of taste like liver?