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Title: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 05 Sep 2021, 18:42
Once again, it is Monday.


See Marigold, this is why people ask advice from strangers on Reddit. Then at least you get an answer that doesn't acknowledge your weak points.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Sep 2021, 18:48
In my experience, the best strategy is to ask Reddit for advice, then do the exact opposite.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Tova on 05 Sep 2021, 18:50
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: shanejayell on 05 Sep 2021, 19:08
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?

Would be neat if it was. :D
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 05 Sep 2021, 19:09
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?


That does sound like it would be right up Willow Dragonfang's alley!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 05 Sep 2021, 19:38
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?
I assumed it would be. I guess we'll find out, but I'd be surprised if Jeph went to the touble of name-dropping an established character (who seems like very much the type for this role) and then having it be a different Willow.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 05 Sep 2021, 19:52
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?

OhPleaseOhPleaseOhPleaseOhPleaseOhPleaseOhPleaseOhPlease!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: DaiJB on 05 Sep 2021, 20:44
If it is that Willow, then Marigold automatically has less excuses - like, "I'm the wrong build"! or "I'm not supple enough!" - because if anyone in this comic matches Marigold's build, it's Willow...
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 05 Sep 2021, 22:58
If Willow's there, then Iris is there. If Iris is there, Marigold should prepare for INTENSE GRUMPY GOBLIN
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Sep 2021, 23:18
they can have a goblin-off.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Sep 2021, 23:20
As in, Yoga with this Willow (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4451)?

Yes, we've entered the 'new character utilisation' phase where Jeph starts casting around for ways in which he can integrate new characters with the existing ones by giving them 'coincidentally' conveniently intersecting occupations. We've already seen Yemisi as Pintsize Mk2's fashion adviser. Now Willow is going to become Marigold's fitness adviser.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gyrre on 06 Sep 2021, 00:17
One's choice in pant/leggings/tights/etc should not reveal one's personal grooming habits.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: badbum61 on 06 Sep 2021, 00:49
If Willow's there, then Iris is there.

I don't see Iris as the type to do (or, indeed, have any physical need to do) yoga.
If she's there, it's purely to provide snark. Possibly to counter any potential snark directed at Willow, or maybe she provides the unique selling point for this particular brand of yoga. "Normal" is not always what you think...

"You've done Vipassana, now try WHIP-ASSana!"
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2021, 01:31
I'm guessing it is the same Willow, only because we saw her so recently, so it's not the same as Claire the witch.  Also, randomly-introduced characters in this strip, especially female ones, have a tendency to blow up rapidly in importance.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 06 Sep 2021, 06:37
they can have a goblin off

May and Iris in a cyber goblin off!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: John Allenson on 06 Sep 2021, 08:46
It's nice seeing a functioning Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Sep 2021, 10:10
When someone says "That sounds normal" in this comic I expect something wacky to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Sep 2021, 10:47
When someone says "That sounds normal" in this comic I expect something wacky to happen.
It is, in fact, perfectly normal yoga. It’s the instructor and/or venue that’s weird. This is NoHo: normal, cheap, good; pick two only.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: shanejayell on 06 Sep 2021, 18:16
Comics up.

Ah, May. Never change.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 06 Sep 2021, 18:38
Careful with those May, you'll poke someone's eye out.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 Sep 2021, 20:58
I wonder whether Aurelia would mind?  Marigold might be able to sell Aurelia fleshlights for a mint if she signs off.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: John Allenson on 06 Sep 2021, 21:24
I might be alone in this.

Panels one and two, May was surprised and delighted that Marigold took up yoga so fast.
Panel three, May doesn't know what Marigold is talking about.
Panel four, deer-in-headlights trying to think.

I think the fleshlight was something May came up with on the spur of the moment.  IMO, she was expecting the yoga to be more of a fight and didn't actually have anything else.  (If May could empathize about anything it would be body-dysmorphia.)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Sep 2021, 23:10
May, no.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: shanejayell on 07 Sep 2021, 06:56
May, no.

May, YES. *lol*
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 07 Sep 2021, 12:47
I might be alone in this.

Panels one and two, May was surprised and delighted that Marigold took up yoga so fast.
Panel three, May doesn't know what Marigold is talking about.
Panel four, deer-in-headlights trying to think.

I think the fleshlight was something May came up with on the spur of the moment.  IMO, she was expecting the yoga to be more of a fight and didn't actually have anything else.  (If May could empathize about anything it would be body-dysmorphia.)


I felt that May's expressions were a toss-up between 'crap, I don't have any more ideas' and 'oh, I HAVE ideas, I'm just wondering if you can handle them right now'.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: David F on 07 Sep 2021, 12:50
Maybe May is trying to soften her up for a more realistic merchandising pitch?  Burger Oni dakimakura, perhaps?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 07 Sep 2021, 17:45
They're already doing (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4522) a dakimakura.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 07 Sep 2021, 18:37
Comic's up.

"Nothin' ventured, nothin' jizzed in." That line will stick in my head for many years to come :D

It's pretty normal for people to do product placement etc. "This video is sponsored by <company name here>. They make <2 - 3 minute product blurb here>. Find a discount code in the video description below!"
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Sorflakne on 07 Sep 2021, 19:28
Nothing wrong with "selling out" so long as content doesn't decline and the creator doesn't just coast on their recognition.  Makers and creators gotta earn a living somehow.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Tova on 07 Sep 2021, 19:34
If the integrity of your content is unaffected, then by definition, it is not selling out.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gyrre on 07 Sep 2021, 20:37
Comic's up.

"Nothin' ventured, nothin' jizzed in." That line will stick in my head for many years to come :D

[snip]
[Points at post script]
Two cursed mental images for comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: St.Clair on 08 Sep 2021, 02:00
just saying, there's definitely a reason why the dominant player in the semi-pro art field right now is named for a (trademarkable) misspelling of "patron".
(because for the longest time, rich people were the only ones who could afford to commission art.)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: John Allenson on 08 Sep 2021, 06:45
If Michaelangelo were alive today, he'd be having an epic flame war with Da Vinci while art fans would be writing slash about them.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: David F on 08 Sep 2021, 11:24
The thing is, if she's making more than enough money already, what's the point in adding more merchandise?  (Other than pleasing the fans, anyway.)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2021, 12:17
To make yet even more money, so May can buy her jet with her (legitimately earned) cut of the proceeds.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 08 Sep 2021, 18:13
New comic.

I'm sure some people are into that.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: shanejayell on 08 Sep 2021, 18:39
Hanners: "Yoga mats for everybody!"

Everyone: "Wat."

May: "I heard about the rug burn thing from Sven."
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gyrre on 08 Sep 2021, 21:06
The thing is, if she's making more than enough money already, what's the point in adding more merchandise?  (Other than pleasing the fans, anyway.)

Residual income?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Sep 2021, 22:25
The thing is, if she's making more than enough money already, what's the point in adding more merchandise?  (Other than pleasing the fans, anyway.)

As Marigold's business manager, one of May's jobs is to help her make even more money!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: DaiJB on 08 Sep 2021, 22:32
"Self-esteem undetectable with current technology."

Yup. Still true.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Sep 2021, 23:31
Regarding today's strip, am I the only one getting the impression that May reflexively searches "Can I have sex using..." every time she encounters something? I suspect that, if she and Sven ever get back together, she's going to have a long 'to-do' list.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 09 Sep 2021, 18:05
Yoga mats? May clearly wants there to be sex mats.

( a matched set of fuck mats would make a lovely gift )
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: shanejayell on 09 Sep 2021, 18:24
Comics up.

Good luck, Marigold....
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Farideh on 09 Sep 2021, 18:40
Hi, Willow!

Also, Marigold is not wearing her glasses. Will that increase her chances of tripping over the instructor's gong?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Hypersapien on 09 Sep 2021, 21:15
Did Jeph just start drawing Marigold differently? It took me a second to realize that was her. It's not just the lack of glasses. She looks skinnier.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Tova on 09 Sep 2021, 21:22
She looks like a younger version of herself.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 09 Sep 2021, 21:29
Hi, Willow!

Also, Marigold is not wearing her glasses. Will that increase her chances of tripping over the instructor's gong?

I always took off my glasses when I was doing yoga. Super not worth the hassle of keeping them on.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 09 Sep 2021, 21:38
Did Jeph just start drawing Marigold differently? It took me a second to realize that was her. It's not just the lack of glasses. She looks skinnier.

Yeah, it's super pronounced in panel 2 especially. My guess is that's just one of those "hand does something you don't notice until you've posted the comic and it's really not worth the hour of work it would take to fix" things.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2021, 21:46
Would the fleshlights be called "Burger Yoni"?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: wiserd on 09 Sep 2021, 22:14
Did Jeph just start drawing Marigold differently? It took me a second to realize that was her. It's not just the lack of glasses. She looks skinnier.

I was wondering the exact same thing. It's reminiscent of Clinton getting an attractiveness upgrade prior to dating Elliot.

He should have waited till after the yoga sessions.

On a related note, it's remarkable how much impact such subtle changes can have.

I went and photoshopped out Marigold's glasses, just so that I could make the comparison better. But it doesn't seem to let me upload here.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Sep 2021, 23:12
Willow is definitely talking about herself in her description of the 'nightmare scenario' in panel 6. When you consider the fact  that she is very likely the instructor, given the name given in the on-line advert, that probably tells you how much this might become a comedy of errors.

Did Jeph just start drawing Marigold differently? It took me a second to realize that was her. It's not just the lack of glasses. She looks skinnier.

Agreed, she's lost a lot of weight over the last strip; mostly in her face.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: badbum61 on 10 Sep 2021, 00:59
Willow.

Marigold.

Yoga.

Did anybody else just feel a large disturbance in the Force?

(yes, yoga, not Yoda)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 10 Sep 2021, 03:39
Marigold definitely looks different here; she looks like a teen next to Hanners (could be one of Sam's friends in the first panel!)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Marco on 10 Sep 2021, 05:03
She took off her glasses and tied her hair. It makes her neck look longer, which does the trick of looking younger.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Sep 2021, 09:47
She took off her glasses and tied her hair. It makes her neck look longer, which does the trick of looking younger.
Yes, this. Pulling your hair back and up tightens the skin under your chin, among other effects. It also emphasises the neck. On top of that, removing glasses changes the way your eyes are framed (literally) and generally makes you look wider-eyed aka “innocent” aka younger.

Also, plot twist: Willow is the instructor, but that isn’t Willow; it’s her heretofore unmentioned twin sister Rowan.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Roborat on 10 Sep 2021, 12:02
Oh right, that is Willow.  At first read I thought that was Fay, and was very confused.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 10 Sep 2021, 15:23
Marigold: "Wait, you're the instructor?"

( every instructor was once a noob )
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: DaiJB on 10 Sep 2021, 16:41
She took off her glasses and tied her hair. It makes her neck look longer, which does the trick of looking younger.
Yes, this. Pulling your hair back and up tightens the skin under your chin, among other effects. It also emphasises the neck. On top of that, removing glasses changes the way your eyes are framed (literally) and generally makes you look wider-eyed aka “innocent” aka younger.

Also, Marigold has taken off the devices that enable her to see clearly - that has an effect on one's appearance too. When trying to compensate for their visual deficiency, some people go wide-eyed, some gain a piercing expression - I gained a set of deep lines on my forehead and between my eyebrows as I try to focus on small print...  :-\
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: flondrix on 11 Sep 2021, 21:00
I see others are remarking on the change in Marigold 's  appearance.  She looks so...generic now.  The weight loss was bad enough, but the change in her face reminds me of what happened to Jennifer Grey.  From interesting, realistic looking ingenue to starlet from central casting
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Sep 2021, 04:01
She took off her glasses and tied her hair. It makes her neck look longer, which does the trick of looking younger.
Yes, this. Pulling your hair back and up tightens the skin under your chin, among other effects. It also emphasises the neck. On top of that, removing glasses changes the way your eyes are framed (literally) and generally makes you look wider-eyed aka “innocent” aka younger.

Also, Marigold has taken off the devices that enable her to see clearly - that has an effect on one's appearance too. When trying to compensate for their visual deficiency, some people go wide-eyed, some gain a piercing expression - I gained a set of deep lines on my forehead and between my eyebrows as I try to focus on small print...  :-\

I'm in the second camp. Glasses literally make me look friendlier. Otherwise I apparently have 'weasel eyes'/'beady little eyes'.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Sep 2021, 11:09
For me, it always comes as a shock seeing someone suddenly with or without them, kinda like their entire face changed rather than just some device put on.  And for some reason, I don't get this shock with sunglasses.  In this case, I think that Marigold isn't trying out a new look, but is either wearing contacts or willing enough to have blurry vision temporarily so that she doesn't have one *more* thing that can go wrong during the class.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Penquin47 on 14 Sep 2021, 05:21
I have horrible vision.  If I were going to yoga with a friend I trusted to help me out, I would likely leave my glasses outside, too.  If nothing else, it will prevent me from being able to see all the thin people who have been doing this for ages* who have perfect form while my fat ass is struggling to get my poses down, and give me an excuse for not having things quite right because I can't see the instructor all that well.

*You know, the ones anxiety is putting in my head as opposed to the actual other people in class.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: jesslc on 14 Sep 2021, 20:15
It took me a minute to recognise Marigold without her glasses. But that's something I've experienced in real life too - where someone's face shape didn't actually change, but it still looks quite different when I see them without their glasses.

No else has mentioned this yet so I guess I will... I also went back and compared with Marigold on the page before and I think the "skinniness" some people are seeing can be attributed to Jeph trying to portay that Marigold has switched from a regular bra to a sports bra as well as changing her top. Sport bras generally have a bit of a flattening effect. If it maybe seems a little overdone, well that could be a combination of the angle and the natural variation in Jeph's art.

Noticeable variation due to "camera angle" and/or Marigold's posture can definitely be seen once I looked closely at the drawings of Marigold throughout this current arc. Not being an artist or someone who looks closely at people in real life(*), I couldn't say if this amount of variation is true to life or if Jeph tends to overdo it sometimes.

*(True story - once I caught up with a distant friend and was telling her about the guy I'd been dating for a couple of months by that point. She asked me what colour his eyes were and I didn't know. She was surprised by this and asked if he wore glasses and I wasn't sure about the answer to that question either "Er... I don't think so..." (which was, as it turns out, correct) but still...  :roll:)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 14 Sep 2021, 22:35
I don't look closely at people either. Including myself - one day I was caught quite by surprise to find out that, apparently, my eyes had changed colour from brown to hazel, almost green. When did that happen? No idea, sometime in a 10-15 year period is about the best I can do. It was actually quite unsettling when I first noticed it.

SImilarly when reading comics, if it's not happening in the speech bubbles I very probably won't notice it. Probably the biggest one in QC that completely slipped by me at the time was Corpse Witch trying to kill / mind-scramble Bubbles. Fortunately I do read the forums, so I get to go back and see all sorts of details that I hadn't noticed before, once other people point them out and start talking about them :)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 6th - Sep 10th (4606-4610)
Post by: St.Clair on 19 Sep 2021, 18:15
The last time I got my driver's license renewed, they had me take off my glasses.  I discovered I look much more like my younger brother than I'd previously thought.
(The bathroom mirror shows my face at a different angle, with different lighting.)