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Title: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: shanejayell on 12 Sep 2021, 20:17
Yup, it's Willow's first class too.

God help them all.....
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: baronvonfritz on 12 Sep 2021, 20:24
*snrk* "Limit break" 

NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDD!!!!


(Said the grown ass adult that played that game only weeks ago, and regularly reads QC...)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 12 Sep 2021, 21:04
They can all learn together!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: DaiJB on 12 Sep 2021, 22:43
 :laugh: Two wildly different reactions to the same speech...
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Sep 2021, 23:14
Settle in, folks, it's going to be a long week of Willow being comedically inept!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 12 Sep 2021, 23:29
The teachers in training I've seen have had to shadow a certified teacher a lot as well as do supervised teaching before they're actually able to take over any classes alone, in addition to doing a whole bunch of yoga and getting all of the required hours in whatever their courses are. Some nerves make sense, sure, but comical ineptness would imply that part of Northampton's weirdness involves bypassing all standards and making it as easy to be certified as a yoga teacher as it is to be ordained as a minister online.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Sep 2021, 00:00
Seriously, this is a comedic comic strip. What does "how they do things in real life" have to do with this situation?

FWIW, for now I'm sticking with my "Willow is so bad that Hannelore ends up taking over" theory.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 13 Sep 2021, 01:24
I think it could also be a "Winslow redux" where Willow turns out to be surprisingly good at her job, and Marigold is encouraged.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 13 Sep 2021, 01:54
The Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann fan shows itself. I only know about TTGL from Jeph, but I know he's a big fan.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Sep 2021, 03:55
Instead of having the stereotypical devil and angel on my shoulders, I have a panel 6 Hannelore and Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: traroth on 13 Sep 2021, 07:05
I think it could also be a "Winslow redux" where Willow turns out to be surprisingly good at her job, and Marigold is encouraged.

I prefer your optimistic point of view. Hopefully they all feel empowered by that experience of a great first yoga session!

It must be possible to find comedic resources in positive experience, not only in ridiculous failure.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 13 Sep 2021, 07:44
Ridiculous failure is overdone. Ridiculous Success, on the other hand...
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Sep 2021, 11:13
It may not be either an astounding success or failure right from the beginning, depending on how long Jeph is planning on working this.  It might even really help for Marigold that the instructor also has anxieties, and also rather curvy.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Sep 2021, 18:27
New comic.

Loving it! Yes, my first downward dog felt like that as well.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Gnabberwocky on 13 Sep 2021, 18:48
Do we suppose Jeph is maaaaaybe a Calvin and Hobbes fan?

just a little?
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Sep 2021, 19:11
This comic reminded me of Inside Out
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 13 Sep 2021, 19:36
It must be possible to find comedic resources in positive experience, not only in ridiculous failure.

Yup!
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Sep 2021, 20:12
Ridiculous failure is overdone. Ridiculous Success, on the other hand...
For example, your rogue rolling a 26 to swipe the mug off the head castle guard's desk right in front of him without him even catching wise (26 sleight of hand vs 2 perception).

EDIT: couldn't think ofa good character flaw when creating Mallow, so I just rolled off of the table of suggestions. He can't help but pocket little trinkets and knickknacks.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Sorflakne on 13 Sep 2021, 20:13
Do we suppose Jeph is maaaaaybe a Calvin and Hobbes fan?

just a little?
That was my first thought on seeing today's comic.  Specifically the one where Calvin loses his balance on the stairs and faceplants into the floor.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Hypersapien on 13 Sep 2021, 20:29
Do we suppose Jeph is maaaaaybe a Calvin and Hobbes fan?

just a little?

Like anyone on the planet, especially cartoonists, isn't.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Hypersapien on 13 Sep 2021, 20:30
Just noting that engineer Marigold had a Scottish accent.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Mr Intrepid on 13 Sep 2021, 21:20
Just noting that engineer Marigold had a Scottish accent.
That's Jeph's Star trek homage.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Near Lurker on 13 Sep 2021, 21:28
What I find more interesting is that she seems to be half-Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: sitnspin on 13 Sep 2021, 21:38
What I find more interesting is that she seems to be half-Faye.
I don't see it, they have completely different facial structures.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Timemaster on 13 Sep 2021, 22:10
Yayy, I want more adventures of the HMS Marigold!

„Sir, we managed to keep structural damage at bay, but we lost 20 crew in the fight.“

„Jolly good, Sir!“


 :-D



Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Sep 2021, 23:03
Ah, so that's why you need the high-friction mat.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 13 Sep 2021, 23:05
Seriously, this is a comedic comic strip. What does "how they do things in real life" have to do with this situation?

FWIW, for now I'm sticking with my "Willow is so bad that Hannelore ends up taking over" theory.

Dude, people share real life info related to what's happening in-comic all the time. Why be weird about it? Jeph's been playing with what* yoga's actually like a lot, so I figured we'd be seeing more jokes like the one in this strip where it's all ZOMG EXERCISE. Not sure why you need to act like I don't know what I'm reading because I decided to share a rather mild opinion that wasn't even actively disagreeing with your theorizing, just pointing out that it would make Northampton no longer match the actual experiences the writer's been referencing.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: John Allenson on 14 Sep 2021, 05:43
I think the normative experience where nothing goes disasteriously wrong or miraculously well will be interesting.
Already we're seeing Marigold losing her nervousness about how other people are looking at her, since she has enough problems with her body's reaction to |EXERCIZE.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Sep 2021, 06:55
*LOL* Ok, that was cute...
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 14 Sep 2021, 07:39
Please tell me the BOOFSH was not a fart.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: baronvonfritz on 14 Sep 2021, 08:22
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! OH MAN, THANKS JEPH! Heheheheh, haven't laughed that hard in weeks, didn't know I needed it so bad. Ahhh, gonna be in a good mood all day.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: dutchrvl on 14 Sep 2021, 09:47
This comic reminded me of Inside Out

Not to mention Herman's head, although that one admittedly is much less known. Might even predate the Calvin & Hobbes comic on it though, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Rincewind on 14 Sep 2021, 10:27
I LOVE Admiral Marigold's outfit! I wish I could find something like that in Godzilla size.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Roborat on 14 Sep 2021, 12:19
This page is great, and it is very funny.  I loved the Star Trek reference.  I see I am not the only one who remembers Herman's Head. 
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Sep 2021, 14:21
Not to mention Herman's head, although that one admittedly is much less known. Might even predate the Calvin & Hobbes comic on it though, but I'm not sure.


Herman's head! I used to watch that when I was a kid. It was doubly funny (to me) because my father's name is Herman.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Sep 2021, 18:16
New comic.

I'm liking Willow more and more.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Sep 2021, 19:51
Poor Hanners. Hopefully no freak out coming.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Timemaster on 14 Sep 2021, 22:06
I love the artwork on this one. Especially the perspective in the last three panels. It gives a great impression of depth as well as the trouble Marigold is having holding that pose.
But the background on the first three panels is also very well done.

Good job, Jeph!  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Sep 2021, 23:27
Jeph is certainly forcing himself out of his comfort zone this week, isn't he? It's very obvious how unfamiliar and uncomfortable he is with the forced perspective on Marigold and Hannelore's leading arms here. Not that I claim to have any greater skill, I'm just saying that it's obviously something new for him and I want to congratulate him for trying. Frankly, he needed something to shake him out of the artistic rut that he's been in for about the past 2-3 years.

Also, I was criticised earlier for suggesting that this whole "Marigold the Streamer" arc was going to be basically all about him and about his own neuroses and troubles in this life he's found for himself but I think that was because I framed it as a criticism. However, it's obvious that telling a coded autobiography has helped him rediscover his love for his work.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 14 Sep 2021, 23:30
Willow is good at her job. And Marigold is encouraged.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: John Allenson on 15 Sep 2021, 05:44
Nothing is more encouraging than a sincere compliment from someone who knows what they are talking about.

While it's nice to see that Hannelore is also having anxiety like Marigold I'm hoping it does not get out of hand.  I'm enjoying the focus on Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Marco on 15 Sep 2021, 07:09
I guess the last panel is just to emphasize the assumption (which most people make) that a lean person is automatically good at physical tasks like Yoga.

As someone who's been thin half of my life (the other half I've been married, so...), I can assure that's so, so not true.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: theMarc on 15 Sep 2021, 07:54
I, too, have a "no bugs allowed" policy when I'm doing... well, anything, really.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Sep 2021, 09:14
Glad to see Willow asking prior to instead of just correcting Hanners stance.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: David F on 15 Sep 2021, 11:16
Glad to see Willow asking prior to instead of just correcting Hanners stance.

Pretty standard in most of the yoga classes I've been to.  Feels very normal, as if this is coming from experience with a good yoga studio.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Sep 2021, 11:19
I, too, have a "no bugs allowed" policy when I'm doing... well, anything, really.

Heh.  I once bought a girl a pair of Madagascar hissing cockroaches and a little terrarium as a peace offering after our first real fight.  Those bugs were kinda fun to watch and play with.  (Sadly, they were murdered by a pet sitter.  I didn't think that it'd be possible to neglect roaches to death).

Glad to see Willow asking prior to instead of just correcting Hanners stance.

Little does she know the flailing that she dodged.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2021, 13:52
Pretty standard in most of the yoga classes I've been to.  Feels very normal, as if this is coming from experience with a good yoga studio.


Yep. When I went to yoga, my instructor would ask first. Later on she knew that I was OK with it, so she would just come in and correct my stance, but it was good that it was confirmed first.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Sep 2021, 18:19
New comic.

Ugh, chair pose. That brings back memories  ::)


I like how Hanners isn't extremely good at yoga.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Sorflakne on 15 Sep 2021, 19:30
Wow, wall sits without a wall to brace against.  That's brutal.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 15 Sep 2021, 19:35
Looks like a great class. I hope she sticks with it.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Sep 2021, 20:40
I've generally got the power, not sure about the balance. I'll have to try some of these.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 15 Sep 2021, 20:55
'Plank Pose' is a push-up? What?

( do i have to look up all of these myself )
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 15 Sep 2021, 21:33
It's a pose held at the top of a push-up essentially (I've also done planks on my elbows, but I guess that's not the way it's done in yoga). It's a core strength exercise.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Sep 2021, 01:13
The thing to remember about any strenuous or intricate activity: You are always going to look like a useless and uncoordinated idiot at first. This is a universal rule unless you're some kind of prodigy so don't stress out when it happens. Focus on learning it so that the problem goes away in time.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 16 Sep 2021, 04:01
If you try the chair pose thing, be careful that your backside sticks out and backward so that your knees don't bend out beyond your toes. Otherwise that would put unwelcome stress on your knees. You can use arms as a counterweight for balance to start with. If can't get down very far at first while  maintaining proper form, so be it. It will take time to build the required ability. Be patient with yourself. Practicing against a wall at first can help you to learn how it should feel.

It really is worthwhile having an experienced coach or mentor help you with form the first time you try these kinds of exercises. It can genuinely be hard to tell whether you have it right, such as in the example with Hanners and her not very level arms, until you are assisted by someone who can watch your form from the outside. And if your form is bad, there is a genuine risk of injury in some cases.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: oddtail on 16 Sep 2021, 11:23
The thing to remember about any strenuous or intricate activity: You are always going to look like a useless and uncoordinated idiot at first. This is a universal rule unless you're some kind of prodigy so don't stress out when it happens. Focus on learning it so that the problem goes away in time.

And even if you are some kind of a prodigy, you'll still look less impressive when you start than an utterly untalented person will after they get just a bit of practice.

Learning always wins over raw talent, with enough time and effort. Always. And that's a good thing! Without talent, one may or may not become amazing at something, but most anyone can get *competent* at most things, with some hard work.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Roborat on 16 Sep 2021, 12:39
Interesting, that Yoga workout bears a strong resemblance to part of my Karate workout.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Sep 2021, 19:20
New comic.

Yeeeees, let the relaxation flow through you...
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: John Allenson on 16 Sep 2021, 20:17
New comic.

Yeeeees, let the relaxation flow through you...
... and out of you.

Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Sep 2021, 20:26
POOT.

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Timemaster on 16 Sep 2021, 22:46
Congrats Hanners. You‘ve successfully let out all of your stresses and let them vanish into the air. You‘ve reached nirvana.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: badbum61 on 16 Sep 2021, 22:54
POOTS LOL
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Sep 2021, 23:22
Just got to draw a line in the sand here: Fart jokes are not and never will be funny. That is all

*Drops mic and walks off*
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: neurocase on 17 Sep 2021, 00:43
Just got to draw a line in the sand here: Fart jokes are not and never will be funny. That is all

*Drops mic and walks off*

You must be a real poot hoot at at parties.

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: oddtail on 17 Sep 2021, 01:46
I find fart jokes very amusing (if done right). It's one of areas where I shamelessly allow myself to be a not-particularly-bright ten year old.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Sep 2021, 03:49
Just got to draw a line in the sand here: Fart jokes are not and never will be funny. That is all

*Drops mic and walks off*


Tell that to my kids  ::)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: sitnspin on 17 Sep 2021, 11:30
Just got to draw a line in the sand here: Fart jokes are not and never will be funny. That is all

*Drops mic and walks off*


Tell that to my kids  ::)
Tell that to Shakespeare. Heck, tell that humans for all of recorded history
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 17 Sep 2021, 11:47
Just got to draw a line in the sand here: Fart jokes are not and never will be funny. That is all

*Drops mic and walks off*


Tell that to my kids  ::)
Tell that to Shakespeare. Heck, tell that humans for all of recorded history
In the far distant future when humanity has evolved so far that we no longer have intestines or any associated biological requirements, there will still be fart jokes.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Tova on 17 Sep 2021, 16:05
Learning always wins over raw talent, with enough time and effort. Always. And that's a good thing! Without talent, one may or may not become amazing at something, but most anyone can get *competent* at most things, with some hard work.

(https://i.imgur.com/iSgCcnc.jpeg)
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Sep 2021, 16:19
Quote from: Piet Hein
To many people artists seem undisciplined and lawless.
Such laziness, with such great gifts, seems little short of crime.
One mystery is how they make the things they make so flawless,
Another what they're doing with their energy and time.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: St.Clair on 17 Sep 2021, 19:05
a different form of art, and yet:

Quote from: Gene Fowler
Writing is easy: All you do is sit staring at a blank sheet of paper until drops of blood form on your forehead.
Title: Re: WCDT Sep 13th - Sep 17th (4611-4615)
Post by: oddtail on 18 Sep 2021, 02:33
I think with artists specifically, a large part of creating something is effort that is not readily apparent. It happens inside the head, so it looks like "nothing". And when something is actually being done that other people can see, it looks effortless (with thousands of hours of practice/learning spent to "get there" being in the past, as is any conceptual work done), so people just conclude that it happens "on its own".

It's not exactly an artistic endeavor per se, but if I got paid for listening to every annoying person I've met that thinks translating things is basically just "you know a language passably well, and you just type for a while and the translation is done", I wouldn't have to work as a translator in the first place. I dread to even think what BS actual writers have to listen to.