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Title: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Mar 2022, 09:24
Here ya go.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Mar 2022, 12:47
This is very bright and early 😊
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Mar 2022, 18:27
Daylight saving time? Who needs it when we have all the daylight we need? :D

Marigold turns into more of a goblin the more we find out about her past...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Mar 2022, 18:57
It's funny how Marbear transitions from 'Awww, Dad!' to 'Arrrgh, DA-HAD!' in the space of 1 panel.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 13 Mar 2022, 20:45
D'awww!

Also, ah dangit! My poll idea was to ask the forumites which of the following they identified as; goblin, gremlin, kobold, pixie, gnome, or other.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 13 Mar 2022, 21:03
There's always next week!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: traroth on 14 Mar 2022, 00:06
Look at Marigold's father denying the importance of luck in success...

Meritocracy is a myth.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Mar 2022, 00:23
From panels 3 and 4, May was just convincing herself that Marigold was kind of cute but suddenly wasn't so sure.

As a broader lesson from this strip, I wonder how many thing we did more or less by accident that, for some reason, those who know us are assuming was just us being cunning?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 14 Mar 2022, 04:42
Am trying to picture Marigold as a tween, playing soccer.

( but whos gonna kill those spiders )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 14 Mar 2022, 05:57
Look at Marigold's father denying the importance of luck in success...

Meritocracy is a myth.
Eh it’s both. Seriously. You can work as hard as you like and never get a break and you can get breaks left and right but if you don’t work hard to exploit any break you get you will never advance on either path.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Mar 2022, 06:54
Jeph should do a 'Nocturnal Dumpster Goblin' t-shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: dutchrvl on 14 Mar 2022, 07:07
Look at Marigold's father denying the importance of luck in success...

Meritocracy is a myth.

I don't see him denying the importance of luck at all. To me it sounds like he's telling Marigold that she shouldn't dismiss her success as only happening by accident, which is the right thing to do IMO.

Some degree of luck almost always plays a role with any kind of success, but I think nobody becomes successful at anything purely by luck. Therefore it is okay to take at least some credit as to what you managed to achieve. Good dad to build up his daughter's self-confidence.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: traroth on 14 Mar 2022, 08:26
Look at Marigold's father denying the importance of luck in success...

Meritocracy is a myth.
Eh it’s both. Seriously. You can work as hard as you like and never get a break and you can get breaks left and right but if you don’t work hard to exploit any break you get you will never advance on either path.

That's what I mean. Luck is a huge part of success, and of wht is left, work is not the most important either. Connections, for example, play a key role (I'm not saying it is relevant to the comic, though).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2022, 08:43
Connections are part of the luck factor.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Mar 2022, 11:29
Both blind luck, and hard work, in my experience. Often, maintaining connections can involve a bit of effort, especially for those who have social difficulties. I know that I have hurt myself career-wise by avoiding people I work with while off the clock, and not bothering at all after they or I leave.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 14 Mar 2022, 13:02
There's always next week!

Very true.

Connections are part of the luck factor.
Reminds me of a post I saw recently about the wild things people raised with money will ask other people. The post concluded with someone sardonically posting, "Have you tried being born into money? It's easy! I did it all by myself."

Meritocracy is one of those things that sounds great on paper, but the praxis is almost impossible.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: TV4Fun on 14 Mar 2022, 18:48
Comic. Jeph has definitely not been reading our comments 😅.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 14 Mar 2022, 19:40
Cue Markiplier yelling "THE LORE!"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: shanejayell on 14 Mar 2022, 21:03
Robots dreaming intrigues me. WHY, especially.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Mar 2022, 23:55
I think that dream is a kind of flashback to the worse days at the convenience store. One way or another, May is well rid of that phase of her life!

Robots dreaming intrigues me. WHY, especially.

Basically the same reason as us and even a similar mechanism - the sensory processing parts of the brain reacting to short term memories being sent to long-term storage.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Mar 2022, 05:23
I think that dream is a kind of flashback to the worse days at the convenience store. One way or another, May is well rid of that phase of her life!

Robots dreaming intrigues me. WHY, especially.

Basically the same reason as us and even a similar mechanism - the sensory processing parts of the brain reacting to short term memories being sent to long-term storage.

Doubly so in this case as it's been stated in universe that these AI's mental substrate functions in much akin to that of our own squishy brains.

I can relate on the recurring work nightmare dreams, too. Occasionally even now, I'll be haunted and daunted by the clack clack clacking of ceramic plates and bowls at the end of a plastic segmented blue conveyor belt (I haven't worked that job in just shy of a decade).
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 15 Mar 2022, 07:17
There is no such thing as big evil boob demons.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 15 Mar 2022, 09:06
Clearly, you don’t play FFXIV:

(https://i.ibb.co/kGSv9tJ/FFXIV-Eden-s-Promise-render.png)


Edit: There seem to be three kinds of monsters in that game, too adorable to kill, awe-inspiring (like the various dragon designs), and “Lovecraft was an amateur” level horrors like the boss with dozens of boobs.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Wingy on 15 Mar 2022, 09:49
There is no such thing as big evil boob demons.
The way May describes that, my minds eye sees a giant boob, nipple at the apex, with eyes and mouths on it like a Christmas tree.  I'm waiting with bated breath for a picture of this stream...  Primarily because my rational mind is saying "That can't be right.".
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Ghanima Atreides on 15 Mar 2022, 12:03
Sounds to me like May wants to be a Daemonette (Slaanesh approved!  :evil: )
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 15 Mar 2022, 16:39
'tail with a sword' made me think of Orochi.

{ now if the tail had a broom on the end )

We could ask the kids she broomed out of the shop about the big evil boob demon.
I will now be watching the fanart thread closely. Rule 34, you know.

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: TV4Fun on 15 Mar 2022, 16:42
Robots dreaming intrigues me. WHY, especially.
Perhaps similar to human dreaming, it serves as a way to refresh and sort through old memories and to keep the (robotic equivalent of the) visual cortex active so it doesn't get taken over by other parts of the brain.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Y on 15 Mar 2022, 18:54
New comic. I was a bit anxious when I saw the comic title appear on my rss plugin.

I watch a couple of streamers, and when they have an argument, chat uses the the phrase "Is this the end of the (group name)?" and sometimes picked up by one of the streamers with "this was the last (group name) stream".

Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 15 Mar 2022, 19:54
This sounds like the kind of joke that my husband and I would've made when we were engaged.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 15 Mar 2022, 20:34
I may not be the sharpest knife in the Caesar when it comes to social interactions [1], but I'm pretty sure I've got friends who'd do this if they ever changed thrir stance on marriage.

[1]obligatory OSP Blue quote for the Ides of March

EDIT typo correction. Feels like my wrist is Caesar and the senators are stabbing it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Mar 2022, 23:55
Incidentally and FYI, every month has ides; it just means "middle".  But only one had a famous general/politician get stabbed on 'em, and then plays got written about it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Mar 2022, 00:04
The point is, Claire, that you don't know and that is at least to be supposed to be the joke.

Ever notice that what is funny to some people just causes distress in others? I learned that a decade ago and had to retire some of what I thought were my funniest routines!
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Mar 2022, 00:14
Humor is very subjective indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Mar 2022, 03:28
The real question in my mind is will they keep doing this bit after the wedding? Because that would probably actually be funnier.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: shanejayell on 16 Mar 2022, 04:53
Awww, that was cute.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: keithcurtis on 16 Mar 2022, 08:30
In our house, the standard joke like that is, "You've ruined Christmas!". This can even be said in July.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: ctishman on 16 Mar 2022, 08:33
Is this Loss?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: TV4Fun on 16 Mar 2022, 15:01
Is this Loss?
(https://i.imgflip.com/68xgg7.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Raptorofwar on 16 Mar 2022, 15:23
I love them to bits.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Mar 2022, 18:10
I thought one of the primary selling points of the dark side was the cookies.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Mar 2022, 19:06
I thought one of the primary selling points of the dark side was the cookies.
It’s that they have cookies. Not that they are any good. It’s like “I’d buy that for a dollar!” – a great marketing slogan.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 16 Mar 2022, 19:09
I was a regular Girl Scout. Wish I'd had the option to be a Goth one instead.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Baz_Yat on 16 Mar 2022, 20:16
I was a regular Girl Scout. Wish I'd had the option to be a Goth one instead.
I was, briefly, in the British boy scouts. I think I'd have wanted to be a Goth Scout instead too...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: sitnspin on 16 Mar 2022, 20:22
To be fair, if they had met years ago it would have been before Dora's therapy and subsequent emotional growth so they likely wouldn't have worked out. It's much better that they met when they did.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 16 Mar 2022, 20:28
Incidentally and FYI, every month has ides; it just means "middle".  But only one had a famous general/politician get stabbed on 'em, and then plays got written about it.

And it's a tumblr holiday.

[I've been on since 2011. They'll have to burn me off like a tick.]
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Mar 2022, 20:58
...I didn't even know Tumblr existed in 2011.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: DaiJB on 16 Mar 2022, 21:36
These two are cute together.

And I want to see the shorts!   :-D


edit: Oh yes, the poll - And now for "something completely different"...Marigold's Dad used to be a lumberjack...
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: TV4Fun on 16 Mar 2022, 22:19
"unsupervised night canoeing" is the strangest euphemism I've ever heard.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: shanejayell on 17 Mar 2022, 04:19
Happy St Paddy's Day, too.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: traroth on 17 Mar 2022, 05:52
Connections are part of the luck factor.

At least a big part of it.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Mar 2022, 06:34
There is no such thing as big evil boob demons.

Are these evil demons with big boobs, or big evil demons with boobs?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 17 Mar 2022, 07:18
Maybe they’re big boobs with evil demons growing out of them.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: snubnose on 17 Mar 2022, 08:29
Maybe they are big demons with evil boobs.







D'awww!

Also, ah dangit! My poll idea was to ask the forumites which of the following they identified as; goblin, gremlin, kobold, pixie, gnome, or other.

Other of course.

I identify as a darkelf.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 17 Mar 2022, 09:29
Heh.  In all the D&D games I’ve done, I got rid of the “standard” dark elves.  I never liked the idea of a race of crazed murder hobos, and certainly wouldn’t think that they could be a serious antagonist if it wasn’t for them being individually over-powered.

I of course did have an empire of evil elves,[1] and yes, they are largely theocratic, but they also are extremely well-organised, and won’t kill you as soon as look at you (unless you’re a tiefling, or otherwise messing with extraplanar stuff)[2].  Lawful evil is a much more fun alignment for (most) truly fun baddies as well, especially when their motives make perfect sense as the story goes on, and they just take it too far, particularly with their methods.

[1] Physically indistinguishable from “regular” high elves, except that those who were magic users of any sort became more and more desaturated/monochrome as they became more powerful, due to their relationship with a rift of shadow/void that all sorts of daemonic or otherwise awful things came out of

[2] Their evil tends to be the sort of ruthlessness you’d expect from a society that (reluctantly) embraced becoming monsters to fight monsters.  They do have some standards.  They don’t torture people for “fun”, or because they think that it’ll get them useful information.  They just don’t *care* that the effects on the victim of having the information ripped directly from their minds are often worse.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 17 Mar 2022, 18:59
New comic.

Relationship goals indeed! Reminds me of a conversation that I regularly have with my husband.

Me: "We're getting old!"
Him: "Yes, that's the plan"
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: sitnspin on 17 Mar 2022, 20:08
My late wife and I had an on again off again relationship. It's not romantic, it's exhausting.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 17 Mar 2022, 20:24
...I didn't even know Tumblr existed in 2011.

Just checked my blog archive. My first post was May 27, 2011. It still has 0 notes.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: shanejayell on 17 Mar 2022, 21:10
GAWD those two are adorable, tho.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Mar 2022, 23:42
Yeah, Teen/YA Fiction romance and actual working loving relationships tend to be radically different. The adult kind, though difficult in their own way, are less stressful, as a whole.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: snubnose on 18 Mar 2022, 00:41
Uh-hu. To each their own.

I'd much prefer the on-off thing. You'd known your partner even when they've been young and stupid.

P.s.: Only if the final result is "on", of course.



In all the D&D games I’ve done,
I really hate D&D darkelves.

But D&D isnt exactly the only system with darkelves. Elves including darkelves arent that great in D&D. For starters, they LOOK UGLY.

I like darkelves because they look cool. I dont support the idea that any sentient race is predominantly evil. That seems grossly unrealistic to me.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: John Allenson on 18 Mar 2022, 07:12
Ah!  The difference between love and romance.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 18 Mar 2022, 07:35
I really hate D&D darkelves.

But D&D isnt exactly the only system with darkelves. Elves including darkelves arent that great in D&D. For starters, they LOOK UGLY.
 to me.

True.  I’m just one of the many people here who immediately makes a mental jump to D&D.  And yeah, I don’t really like the idea of any sapient species being inherently evil, either, rather, national policies and the like, rather than the species.  The region with the highest number of orcs may show them in conflict with humans over resources, or cultural differences.    Of course, they also will make alliances, and even intermarry, so there are quite a few half-orcs from the region as well.

Edit:  There's really no reason that the children of Conan and Zug Zug Marrow-Drinker or Krog Bloodtusk and Conanina shouldn't have parents who raise them to drink from the skulls of their enemies in the traditional fashion.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 18 Mar 2022, 13:12
With the set of matching skulls handed down from the grandparents?
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: sitnspin on 18 Mar 2022, 13:19
It's an important rite of passage to acquire one's own collection of skulls for quaffing.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 18 Mar 2022, 13:49
Both types of skulls are valued, of course.  And, again, though there would certainly be cultural and at least some religious differences, humans and orcs pushed to the sort of land where semi-nomadic is about as "settled" as they can get, again, due to resources, impassible mountains in one direction, "here there be worse than dragons" on the second, walled off from an empire on the others (who also basically control trade access), humans and orcs probably would have more similarities than difference, although how friendly either is somewhat clan dependent on both sides.  Realistically, how much conflict and brutality the two species would have would grow and ebb depending on how fierce the struggle for limited resources is, and more abundant years would be good for peace, etc.

I don't need to go into excruciating detail, but I do like to try and think of what sort of fantasy culture would evolve under certain conditions.  Specifically, I want to avoid whole-cloth real world transplants, particularly for those I'm not ripping off of theme park Europeans.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Farideh on 18 Mar 2022, 16:38
It's an important rite of passage to acquire one's own collection of skulls for quaffing.


Given your signature I'm not surprised 😀
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: sitnspin on 18 Mar 2022, 19:59
It's an important rite of passage to acquire one's own collection of skulls for quaffing.


Given your signature I'm not surprised 😀
Keeping our traditions alive.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Mar 2022, 01:54
I really hate D&D darkelves.

But D&D isnt exactly the only system with darkelves. Elves including darkelves arent that great in D&D. For starters, they LOOK UGLY.
 to me.

True.  I’m just one of the many people here who immediately makes a mental jump to D&D.  And yeah, I don’t really like the idea of any sapient species being inherently evil, either, rather, national policies and the like, rather than the species.  The region with the highest number of orcs may show them in conflict with humans over resources, or cultural differences.    Of course, they also will make alliances, and even intermarry, so there are quite a few half-orcs from the region as well.

Edit:  There's really no reason that the children of Conan and Zug Zug Marrow-Drinker or Krog Bloodtusk and Conanina shouldn't have parents who raise them to drink from the skulls of their enemies in the traditional fashion.

Reminds me of an interesting post suggesting that perhaps orcs have a massive smear campaign against them due to their having better hygiene than there fantasy-medieval human counterparts in a similar fashion to how vikings. With all of the half-orcs being the result of willing pairings. The post brings up a rather good point that they'd have some damn good surgeons and nonmagical medical technics with the cultural focus on fighting.

Personally, I like the notion of a dwarf falling for an orc and vis versa as they each appreciate the other's ability to use an axe (Dorcs and Orves would be the offspring).

EDIT: Found it (https://filibusterfrog.tumblr.com/post/181730559758/if-you-want-to-live-to-die-in-a-different-battle) Should have known it was a fillibusterfrog post. They've got dome good worldbuilding ideas.
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: hedgie on 20 Mar 2022, 12:33
I did borrow more heavily from Wowcrack than Tolkein when it comes to orcs.  I hadn't developed the world enough to write any predominately orcish nation states, although orc and half-orc NPCs (at least a stub worth of info) were in most areas I did start with.[1]  So, I figured that the one empire to the west (mentioned before) would have a sizeable enough minority of orcs/half-orcs in terms of demographics (and having a fairly Roman definition of citisenship), and basically other places they've been pushed due to fantasy racism.[2]

[1] I knew that I'd never get the game started if I had fully fleshed-out the world, but I figured that with airships (thanks Final Fantasy) being rare and expensive, travel would be slow enough that I could make things as I went, especially with the party basing itself in the first major city I built (the city map itself is 34"x70", even only partially filled)
[2] As Pratchett said, black and white get together to gang up on green
Title: Re: WCDT strips 4741-4745 (14-18 March 2022)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 20 Mar 2022, 20:15
And yeah, I don’t really like the idea of any sapient species being inherently evil, either, rather, national policies and the like, rather than the species.

That was one of the interesting things about Feist's Magician series - it's eventually revealed that the evil dark elves and the good light elves (and two more subgroups that nobody even realised still existed) are actually still one race and one people, but they never admit this to outsiders.