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Title: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 May 2022, 06:10
Melon's new skin is in! But did the suppliers have the shade for Melon in?  :claireface:

EDIT: option 6 is from a Jonathan Coulton song for those curious.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 22 May 2022, 14:01
I voted for the lyric - don't want to go into space.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: St.Clair on 22 May 2022, 19:45
Melon, no
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: DaiJB on 22 May 2022, 20:04
Last week I said that I believe Melon's work involves just keeping her occupied so that she "doesn't do anything irretrievably stupid that results in casualties or lawsuits".
I take it back.
Melon's work keeps her fully occupied so that she doesn't destroy herself.

Poll: "Other" - I would love to visit Babylon Five...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 May 2022, 20:34
I voted for the lyric - don't want to go into space.
That's fair.

This blue marble may not seem the best place at times, but right now it's the best place we know of overall.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 22 May 2022, 21:00
Oh, Melon.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: theMarc on 22 May 2022, 21:30
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: BenRG on 22 May 2022, 22:59
Fixing Melon will be a breeze. Keeping her fixed is a lifetime quest.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 23 May 2022, 00:51
Also: faaace meeeeats (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3173)
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 23 May 2022, 03:42
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
It’s like that line in Broken Arrow about not being sure whether it’s more troubling that a nuclear weapon has gone missing, or that it happens often enough that there’s a specific code name for it…
Also: faaace meeeeats (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3173)
Oh, hey, Bubbles even mentions the “goop” (gel) there too.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: DaiJB on 23 May 2022, 03:43
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
...Which also implies that there are other weird robots like Melon out there.
Somehow, I didn't picture The Singularity as being like this...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 23 May 2022, 04:54
'Hand in the goop?' I think this is a check to make sure that this batch of goop is compatible with this type of  myomer.

How many different restraints is Melon going to eat before they give up and deactivate her motor cortex?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: BenRG on 23 May 2022, 05:43
QUESTION: Does anyone think that Melon is going to look radically different after this procedure? I mean with a different colour palette and possibly a different base hair colour? This is Union Robotics, after all. They may be in the position of 'getting whatever they can' in terms of replacement part and precise cosmetic matches may be a bit out of their price range (and Melon's at that).
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: snubnose on 23 May 2022, 06:02
They should have told her its corrosive or explosive, because "poisonous" doesnt really stop a robot.

On the other hand neither corrosive nor explosive makes much sense for something that you use for robot skin, does it now ?

Maybe "it would harden in your insides and then you'd need a LOT more repairs" would work ? That 100% makes sense.

On the other hand Melon is so dramatically out of control I'm not sure anything would reliably work.



By the way, how are they planning on applying this to the whole body ?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: flondrix on 23 May 2022, 06:45
Fixing Melon will be a breeze. Keeping her fixed is a lifetime quest.

While Melon has been a reliable moneymaker for Union Robotics, I have to wonder...where was she going before Faye and Bubbles started their business?  From the bits of "home life" we saw shortly after the character was introduced, it was pretty clear that she has always been making holes in her surroundings and herself.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: flondrix on 23 May 2022, 06:51
Poll: "Other" - I would love to visit Babylon Five...

Everyone said I was daft to build a space station in the swamp, but I built it all the same.  It blew up.  So I built another one...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: flondrix on 23 May 2022, 06:59
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
All those years living with Pintsize have provided Faye with some useful experience.

By the way, how are they planning on applying this to the whole body ?
What exactly was the nature of Melon's (most recent) disaster?  I saw her going around with a partially de-dermalized face, but now we see her with no skin below the neck as well.  Has she been like that for a while, or did Faye and Bubbles strip off the old covering so they could start from scratch, except for her face?  Which strip shows the disaster, or did it happen offscreen?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 23 May 2022, 10:58
I bet they have something like a combination spray-tanning/auto-bodywork booth where their clients can stand and get hosed down.
I expect that they do fiddly bits like hands, feet, faces etc. manually to make sure they get everything.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: shanejayell on 23 May 2022, 12:16
I do like seeing Bubbles and Faye. :D
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: SmilingCat on 23 May 2022, 14:49
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
...Which also implies that there are other weird robots like Melon out there.
Somehow, I didn't picture The Singularity as being like this...

AI's in this setting are essentially minds that initially appeared accidentally and are created and allowed to develop on their own.

Just like with people, you gonna get some weird iterations of the original concept, and filtering them out would be... well...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 23 May 2022, 18:32
I can sympathize with Melon here - I do often want to see things being done to me. E.g. watch myself getting a C-section. Fortunately I never needed a C-section so that point is moot, but still.

Love Bubbles' eye roll in the last panel :D
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Scarlet Manuka on 23 May 2022, 20:24
...Which also implies that there are other weird robots like Melon out there.
I mean, we've already seen Lemon.

They should have told her its corrosive or explosive, because "poisonous" doesnt really stop a robot.
Corrosive or explosive wouldn't be likely to stop Melon, either. Remember this (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3728) incident (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3729)?

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By the way, how are they planning on applying this to the whole body ?
Perhaps something like this (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3850), but with a taller container? And of course she wouldn't need to be suspended upside down for it, although hey, why not.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 May 2022, 20:27
I'm concerned that Faye and Bubbs having a predefined term ("grazer") implies that this has happened multiple times before.
All those years living with Pintsize have provided Faye with some useful experience.

By the way, how are they planning on applying this to the whole body ?
What exactly was the nature of Melon's (most recent) disaster?  I saw her going around with a partially de-dermalized face, but now we see her with no skin below the neck as well.  Has she been like that for a while, or did Faye and Bubbles strip off the old covering so they could start from scratch, except for her face?  Which strip shows the disaster, or did it happen offscreen?

I forgot how exactly, but she set half of herself on fire off screen a week or two ago.

EDIT: We got to see the early warning signs when Melon turned her drunk dial 'up to 11'. It's mentioned in 4777 that she caught fire.

I can sympathize with Melon here - I do often want to see things being done to me. E.g. watch myself getting a C-section. Fortunately I never needed a C-section so that point is moot, but still.

Love Bubbles' eye roll in the last panel :D
I watched my finger get stitched up when I had an accident withan exacto knife.

Ah yes, Faye's entrepreneurial instincts.

Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Cornelius on 23 May 2022, 22:25
They should have told her its corrosive or explosive, because "poisonous" doesnt really stop a robot.
Corrosive or explosive wouldn't be likely to stop Melon, either. Remember this (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3728) incident (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3729)?

Corrosive is just spicy for robots. (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3644)
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: pwhodges on 24 May 2022, 01:43
I watched my finger get stitched up when I had an accident with an exacto knife.

I watched as they put a stent in one of my heart blood vessels after my heart attack.  They even asked me to move my shoulder to help the catheter round a bend.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: SmilingCat on 24 May 2022, 09:16
I didn't get to watch my own nephrectomy, but I was curious enough to watch a nephrectomy on youtube beforehand.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: shanejayell on 24 May 2022, 10:00
I was awake when they cut my toe off. Ick. So, not recommended...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: shanejayell on 24 May 2022, 19:18
New comic.
Oooh, ouch...
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 24 May 2022, 19:19
Strife! Fingers crossed for some healthy, adult, communication.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 24 May 2022, 19:54
Well, this is distinctly headed downhill in a hurry.

Now that I look back at the current arc (i.e. since 4790) Faye's pretty clearly been in an underlying, if not overt, bad mood the entire time.  I wonder what the cause was, if it was anything more complex than simply "having a bad day".
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 May 2022, 20:27
First fight as a couple or just first one in a while?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Penquin47 on 24 May 2022, 22:08
Other - I wanna go to some of the promising targets Kepler's planetary survey has discovered to see if they are, in fact, Goldilocks.  Or Mars.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 24 May 2022, 22:34
First fight as a couple or just first one in a while?


They've had misunderstandings before (like when Faye walked out during Claire's graduation party), but I'm not sure if they've had a 'real' fight before.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Thrillho on 25 May 2022, 00:38
...

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...

uh



y'okay Bubz?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 25 May 2022, 00:51
lmao is it time for Faye to have a breakup/breakdown combo again

(fingers crossed it is)
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 May 2022, 06:53
QUESTION: Does anyone think that Melon is going to look radically different after this procedure? I mean with a different colour palette and possibly a different base hair colour?  ...

I am reminded of when May's face was damaged and she went to the fighting ring to get it fixed. They had orange and khaki. May chose khaki. (3174) It looked fine. But it quickly faded to dead white. Never explained. May wanted her face to match her ass (3358) so she bought the correct color at a shop and went back and got it installed. (off screen between 3363 and 3365) So I am sure that Union Robotics is quite capable of returning Melon to her original appearance.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 25 May 2022, 10:28
lmao is it time for Faye to have a breakup/breakdown combo again

(fingers crossed it is)

I mean, I can't quite imagine what drives people to actively hope for such things, it seems more than a little sociopathic to me, but you do you I guess.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Faye and Bubbles seem to be the only standing human/AI romantic relationship in the strip at the moment, so with all the focus on AIs for the past while, I can't imagine Jeph would break them up without some replacement in the wings -- kind of like how Faye and Angus broke up to make storyline way for Marten and Claire as the "hetero relationship with focus".

Jeph does, however, love to toss an abrupt bomb between two characters in a relationship and then see where they settle in a (hopefully) healthier configuration afterwards.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: oddtail on 25 May 2022, 10:38
I mean, I can't quite imagine what drives people to actively hope for such things, it seems more than a little sociopathic to me, but you do you I guess.

...they're fictional characters. Character conflict and drama can make for interesting stories.

I don't particularly need them having a big fight as a story seed, but the idea that hoping for a certain kind of storyline involving fictional characters is "sociopathic" is... wild.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: hedgie on 25 May 2022, 11:06
For the poll, I chose Aldebaran, partially since it's in the constellation of Taurus, and I am one,[1] as well as the Lovecraftian associations.  Right now, I'd much rather deal with horrors of a tentacular nature than I do the horrors around that walk on two legs.


[1] Not that I believe in that sort of thing, but to err is human, to moo bovine.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 25 May 2022, 11:22
I mean, I can't quite imagine what drives people to actively hope for such things, it seems more than a little sociopathic to me, but you do you I guess.

...they're fictional characters. Character conflict and drama can make for interesting stories.

I don't particularly need them having a big fight as a story seed, but the idea that hoping for a certain kind of storyline involving fictional characters is "sociopathic" is... wild.

Well yes, I'm well aware that "conflict drives drama", every new arc in QC has that as some element.  Duh.

Where I'm coming from on that is that the last time Faye had a "breakup/breakdown combo", didn't she end up in hospital and nearly dying (or at least implied so) due to alcohol poisoning?  And somebody eagerly wants more of that and thinks it's funny?

Like, yes, I want to see characters grow and develop, but I don't want to see them suffer unnecessarily and/or pointlessly just for shock value and "entertainment".
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: oddtail on 25 May 2022, 11:58
I don't either. I still don't see what it has to do with sociopathy that someone else in the forum does.

Again, they are fictional characters. They are not being hurt when a storyline happens when they're in a shitty situation.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: zioninavision on 25 May 2022, 12:00
i seem to remember Jeph saying a few years ago that he is not interested in having any of the characters go through too much stress!!  whatever is happening now, i am sure it will really have a good outcome that wouldn't have happened otherwise!!

In particular, they have had the shop for this long just as a couple and maybe Yay or Hanners knows some specialists who can start working alongside them!! 
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 25 May 2022, 13:32
I don't either. I still don't see what it has to do with sociopathy that someone else in the forum does.

Okay, then let me try and illustrate it as simply as I can:

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lmao is it time for Faye to have a breakup/breakdown combo again

(fingers crossed it is)

Emphasis is mine.  Does nobody else see how laughing at and rooting for someone potentially descending into another self-destructive trainwreck is all kinds of problematic?

For context, the sort of "breakup/breakdown combo" they're talking about, last time around, started about here (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2814) and spiralled until it culminated in a near-death experience (https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2882).  So that's the sort of thing that they've stated they want to see happen again.

Again, they are fictional characters. They are not being hurt when a storyline happens when they're in a shitty situation.

Yes, I'm well aware of that fact.  Jeph, of course, will do whatever he wants with his fictional characters and their storylines.  That's not what I'm objecting to here.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: dutchrvl on 25 May 2022, 18:19
Wow, this is a pretty strong sign that bubbles finds Faye’s approach to the work an issue, does not consider her professional enough, and probably has felt growing resentment while never actually bringing it up to Faye.
When your both lovers and business partners, not openly discussing these things from the start is a recipe for blowups down the road.

Unclear if bubbles has simply allowed it to build up inside while never voicing her dissatisfaction, or whether she has brought it up multiple times and simply had enough of Faye not becoming more professional
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 25 May 2022, 19:02
This is an interesting one to me. AFAICS, Faye is usually pretty professional, provides good quality work, and is willing to listen to and learn from Bubbles if needed. For Bubbles to get so worked up over this incident comes out of left field. There's probably something else that is bothering her (worries about money and/or the long term prospects of UR? Relationship issues?) After all, it's never about the Iranian yogurt. (https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/bjd41e/aita_for_throwing_away_my_boyfriends_potentially/)
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: hedgie on 25 May 2022, 19:45
I think that it’s Faye’s cavilier/joking attitude about the whole thing (particularly with AIs being a minority that faces serious discrimination).  If they were doctors, and the patients human, most people *wouldn’t* like someone joking around like that.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 May 2022, 20:39
lmao is it time for Faye to have a breakup/breakdown combo again

(fingers crossed it is)

[Pulls out spray bottle]

No. Bad. No.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: alanari on 25 May 2022, 22:29
I have a workplace relationship. We can switch from "arguing about work loud enough for the colleagues next door to understand everything" to "leaving the building after end of work holding hands" in half a minute. Literally. It seems to confuse our colleagues a lot. We separate work and relationship.
I hope that faye and bubbles can figure out a way that works for them, too.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Torlek on 25 May 2022, 22:41
Bubbles has probably had a long-simmering resentment of Faye's cavalier and, frankly, irresponsible attitude about safety (see, pretty much every time Sam has been in the shop) and integrity of work (if she had just slapped the repair on there, it had failed later and Melon were a more litigious AI, she could sue them into the ground). Faye's attitude has never been cut out to be a managing business partner. She's an employee at best.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: St.Clair on 25 May 2022, 23:05
I think that it’s Faye’s cavilier/joking attitude about the whole thing (particularly with AIs being a minority that faces serious discrimination).  If they were doctors, and the patients human, most people *wouldn’t* like someone joking around like that.

The people I know in healthcare make jokes all the time.
Usually not in earshot of the patients, though.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: BenRG on 25 May 2022, 23:22
Now, will Jeph actually allow there to be consequences of some sort (because, no matter how adult, people make dumb decisions when they're mad) or will he succumb to his desire for none of his characters to be hurt and just make this go away?

I can appreciate why some wouldn't want this. Heck, I was one of the early adopters of the Fayebles ship when it was considered an over-interpretation of their interactions. However, having something break and them having to risk hurting more by having to repair it again together would make for interesting writing and might teach us a lot more about how Faye and Bubbles have changed over the 3-4 in-universe months since they moved in together.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 25 May 2022, 23:27
words words words you’re a sociopath words

stay mad though

Quote
today’s comic

ha ha ha yes let’s goooo
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: oddtail on 26 May 2022, 00:19
I really like today's comic, because it's such a good way to portray how many arguments can work.

Faye is legitimately surprised Bubbles is upset with her, and seems to think she did nothing wrong. Even when Bubbles says what her specific problem with her behaviour is. Since she thinks something is no big deal, she thinks that's how Bubbles should feel, as well, and any suggestion to the contrary feels like an attack and unfair.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: hedgie on 26 May 2022, 07:14
The people I know in healthcare make jokes all the time.
Usually not in earshot of the patients, though.


Aye, I do know what things like GOMER and CTD are, and I’m pretty sure that it’s the earshot of patients that has something to do with this.  But also, I’m wondering if Bubbles is thinking that Faye is seeing all of this as “just parts”, and taking it too lightly, when to Bubs, all of it is like those wobbly bits inside organic life forms.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Potato Farmer on 26 May 2022, 07:19
Bubbles has probably had a long-simmering resentment of Faye's cavalier and, frankly, irresponsible attitude about safety (see, pretty much every time Sam has been in the shop) and integrity of work (if she had just slapped the repair on there, it had failed later and Melon were a more litigious AI, she could sue them into the ground). Faye's attitude has never been cut out to be a managing business partner. She's an employee at best.
My first thought about this was that, if memory serves me, Faye has a habit of letting Bubbles take care of all the more complicated work.

If Bubbles has the same impression then, combined with Faye's apparent lack of concern when she messes up, she might feel like Faye is relying too much on her picking up the slack.

It's good to trust your partners and colleagues since that improves cooperation, but Faye might have let it affect her work ethic and Bubbles is getting tired of it.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: John Allenson on 26 May 2022, 09:21
This looks like a pretty healthy disagreement to me.
A lot of the resentment right now is due to them reacting badly - and half way through working on someone who can hear you is a poor time to thrash out issues.

Faye made a mistake that she considered to be minor.  Bubbles knows the mistake was not minor.  Faye thinks Bubbles is over-reacting while Bubbles thinks Faye is being dismissive.  This type of conflict happens all the time in Real Life.

And both Faye and Bubbles have a lot of disfunctional behaviours in their pasts that wouldn't have just magically disappeared.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: oddtail on 26 May 2022, 09:24
This looks like a pretty healthy disagreement to me.

I tend to agree.

They're not handling it flawlessly, but also as well as they reasonably can, right now. Which is something, and may be enough.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Pseudowolf on 26 May 2022, 09:49
This looks like a pretty healthy disagreement to me.

I tend to agree.

They're not handling it flawlessly, but also as well as they reasonably can, right now. Which is something, and may be enough.

Really I think Faye going to lunch early is the best thing here. Things are getting heated and it's best for them to sort of "go to their corners" before they say something they don't mean in the heat of the moment. Not saying they shouldn't talk about it, but they should probably let things cool for a bit (and finish the work on Melon) then come back and talk about what they are upset about.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 May 2022, 10:02
Also I would want to check Melon's software. If standby mode isn't working properly, that could be a symptom of corruption elsewhere.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 26 May 2022, 10:43
words trolling words toxicity words

Well then, as someone else put it so short and simple for your comprehension:

[Pulls out spray bottle]

No. Bad. No.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Elder Sign on 26 May 2022, 10:48
Also I would want to check Melon's software. If standby mode isn't working properly, that could be a symptom of corruption elsewhere.

I'm not so sure it's software corruption so much as Melon being so impulsive that she just can't resist coming out of standby mode in the middle of the robot equivalent of extensive reconstructive surgery.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 26 May 2022, 13:58
I did read it as 'Melon not going into standby mode because she wants to know what is being done to her' because, well, she's Melon.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2022, 13:59
hi it’s me

Just a reminder that people around here identify strongly with some characters, so don’t act surprised if expressing glee at their pain or defending that by saying “they’re just fictional characters” provokes a reaction.

But also, calling someone’s behaviour sociopathic isn’t healthy conflict resolution.

bye now
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 May 2022, 15:25
Global Moderator Comment We have, in fact, gotten one moderation report about it already. Time for a reminder about the forum's "play nice" rule. I do understand and respect the idea that a Faye crisis could be good writing, and also the idea that looking forward to it is distasteful. As long as people debate it in those terms all will be well.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Oenone on 26 May 2022, 18:17
Soooooo did Faye mean to call Melon May??? Because  :psyduck: not knowing who you’re working on is definitely unprofessional.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 26 May 2022, 20:39
My guess is more that Jeph made a small mistake on that panel :)


Also, Faye: don't downplay your problems. Yes, it will worry Hanners, but she is always willing and able to talk things through with you.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: TV4Fun on 26 May 2022, 20:40
Soooooo did Faye mean to call Melon May??? Because  :psyduck: not knowing who you’re working on is definitely unprofessional.
Probably. Enough of us pointed it out on early access that Jeph had plenty of time to fix it if it was a mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: justaguy on 26 May 2022, 21:57
Faye made a mistake that she considered to be minor.  Bubbles knows the mistake was not minor.  Faye thinks Bubbles is over-reacting while Bubbles thinks Faye is being dismissive.  This type of conflict happens all the time in Real Life.

That's very well put.

My job involves leading teams in high pressure situations (high pressure re: reputation/financial disaster, not somebody's going to die  :-)), and eliminating these kind of problems is both difficult and crucial to a well-functioning team. But even in successful, experienced teams they can still crop up, especially if other stresses are going on in people's lives.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Cornelius on 27 May 2022, 00:31
My guess is more that Jeph made a small mistake on that panel :)

Looks to me like it might be part of a story line he designed before May got her new body.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: DaiJB on 27 May 2022, 00:53
Soooooo did Faye mean to call Melon May??? Because  :psyduck: not knowing who you’re working on is definitely unprofessional.
Probably. Enough of us pointed it out on early access that Jeph had plenty of time to fix it if it was a mistake.

I dunno - Jeph used to have trouble remembering Nelson's name...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 27 May 2022, 02:05
Looks to me like it might be part of a story line he designed before May got her new body.


That sounds plausible
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: derris_kharlan on 27 May 2022, 04:44
IMO Bubbles needs to be the one to go for a walk if she feels the need for a break (totally valid). Telling the other person to leave THEIR OWN SHOP (or house, or whatever) just escalates the situation and is unfair. 
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Oenone on 27 May 2022, 05:05
IMO Bubbles needs to be the one to go for a walk if she feels the need for a break (totally valid). Telling the other person to leave THEIR OWN SHOP (or house, or whatever) just escalates the situation and is unfair.

Pretty cruddy for the person getting a treatment whose body just got messed up. I’d rather have the thorough treatment by Bubbles than the half assed one by Faye… why should the person who will be careful and good at their job be the one to leave?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 27 May 2022, 05:46
Melon's 'job':
Somewhere on the Internet there exist those who are amused/entertained/turned on by the spectacle of a robot weltering in vermin and are willing to pay for a livestream of it.

( i am definitely not one of those people )
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Gyrre on 27 May 2022, 06:42
This looks like a pretty healthy disagreement to me.

I tend to agree.

They're not handling it flawlessly, but also as well as they reasonably can, right now. Which is something, and may be enough.

Really I think Faye going to lunch early is the best thing here. Things are getting heated and it's best for them to sort of "go to their corners" before they say something they don't mean in the heat of the moment. Not saying they shouldn't talk about it, but they should probably let things cool for a bit (and finish the work on Melon) then come back and talk about what they are upset about.

It's been awhile since therapy and the psych courses I took for funsies in college, but I'm pretty sure that's 'avoiding enmeshment'. Which, from personal experience with two brothers [1], is usually best to avoid if you can.

[1] One older, one younger. The younger being the brat of the three of us.

EDIT: removed overshared venting.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: notStanley on 27 May 2022, 10:30
'fraid I would put 63% of the problem on Faye.  When the issue with her work was pointed out, she went on defense, instead of acknowledgement and requesting help to improve :{
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: jwhouk on 27 May 2022, 16:11
Aldebaran. Specifically, Aldebaran City on Tau Alpha II.

Lovely place, especially Aldebaran City. A bit dry in the winter, but the Casino next to the ballpark and stadium is nice. You definitely don't want to wander into The Zone, though. Real lawlessness. The Federation says they're trying their best to keep things from getting out of hand, but it's real hard sometimes to believe them.

Anyways, it's really crappy how the A's season ended at the hand of the New York Grays. They lost what, six straight to end the season, and then lost one more before winning game two of the Wild Card series. Shame they got blown out in game three.

So, yeah, the Bulls of the NFL really screwed the pooch with the renovations to Bulls Stadium next door. I mean, imagine having a major sewer line not only burst, but then flood out not just your stadium, but the baseball stadium next door - AND the casino! Gawd, what a mess.

The A's are planning on playing off-world at their Spring Training site in Arizona, but I'm not sure they're going to recover. The Bulls were forced to play at University of Aldebaran City Stadium for the rest of the 2241 season - no surprise, they ended the year 3-15.

So... what was the question again?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 28 May 2022, 02:38
All relationships get tested sooner or later. I've actually been expecting this for a while, considering how much eye-rolling Bubs does at Faye's shenanigans.  it's time to find out just how invested in each other they really are.  I'm only a couple months away from my 22nd wedding anniversary and I can tell you, my marriage has survived shit that makes what's going on with Faye and Bubs look like rehearsal for the debate club.  It's all a matter of priorities: are we willing to scrap the whole relationship over this issue or not?

For me and mine, the answer has always been "no". I bet Faye and Bubs answer similarly.

Pardon if the above seems incoherent.Im living jp to my handle tonight
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: snufflebottoms on 28 May 2022, 06:10
I'm actually wondering if the ability to tell if that spot was discoloration versus warped is a matter of ability of eyesight that someone with not so great human eyesight would miss. 
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 May 2022, 16:27
Quote from: Drunken Old Man
it's time to find out just how invested in each other they really are.

There is a difference between taking vows and living up to them, but we did hear
Quote
I would never leave unless you asked me to.
I would never ask you to.

That, to me, was a commitment ceremony.

Plus I believe it was Faye who used the word "forever".
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 28 May 2022, 17:10
Easy words to say, tough principle to live by. I've seen more strongly-avowed commitments abandoned for lesser reasons than these.

Having said that, I believe in Faye and Bubs.  I think this situation us going to end up more resembling a speed bump than a roadblock...IF THEY OPENLY AND HONESTLY COMMUNICATE THEIR ISSUES.  When it comes to building a life-long relationship, there is no substitute for communication and compromise. None.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: DaiJB on 28 May 2022, 19:19
'fraid I would put 63% of the problem on Faye.  When the issue with her work was pointed out, she went on defense, instead of acknowledgement and requesting help to improve :{

The way I see it, Faye did acknowledge it: "Huh. Okay."
She didn't deny it or make an excuse.
She was concentrating on getting a useable video of the process for Melon, so I can understand why she didn't say more.
It wasn't an apology, but it was in character - I expect she would have said something more to Bubbles later, something like "Oh yeah, thanks for dealing with that thing I f***ed up today Bubs..."
From my viewpoint, the snark from Bubbles was understandable, but regrettable.
Understandable because Bubbles has that built-in military attitude that won't accept a mistake.
Regrettable because no-one is perfect and mistakes will happen regardless of one's best efforts to prevent them.

Also, snufflebottoms has a point - how long has it been since Faye had her vision checked? New glasses maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: flondrix on 28 May 2022, 20:44
I need some help.  In which strip did Faye say that she could hear the quotation marks in Bubbles speech, and Bubbles explains how she does it?  Even a general plot location would help.  Is it right after they have sex for the first time?
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Farideh on 29 May 2022, 00:38
Found it! https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3753
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: derris_kharlan on 29 May 2022, 08:09
IMO Bubbles needs to be the one to go for a walk if she feels the need for a break (totally valid). Telling the other person to leave THEIR OWN SHOP (or house, or whatever) just escalates the situation and is unfair.

Pretty cruddy for the person getting a treatment whose body just got messed up. I’d rather have the thorough treatment by Bubbles than the half assed one by Faye… why should the person who will be careful and good at their job be the one to leave?

More cruddy to kick someone out just because YOU are the one in a bad mood.  Tell them you need to focus on the task of it needs to be finished now, put off the task til later if possible, ask them politely for some space if you really need it, or suck it up and be angry and deal with that later if the customer is so important.  There was no grounds for Bubbles forcing Faye to leave.  And Bubbles taking a break doesn’t mean Faye has to finish the job while she’s gone either.  Bubbles massively overreacted. 
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: oddtail on 29 May 2022, 08:32
IMO Bubbles needs to be the one to go for a walk if she feels the need for a break (totally valid). Telling the other person to leave THEIR OWN SHOP (or house, or whatever) just escalates the situation and is unfair.

Pretty cruddy for the person getting a treatment whose body just got messed up. I’d rather have the thorough treatment by Bubbles than the half assed one by Faye… why should the person who will be careful and good at their job be the one to leave?

More cruddy to kick someone out just because YOU are the one in a bad mood.  Tell them you need to focus on the task of it needs to be finished now, put off the task til later if possible, ask them politely for some space if you really need it, or suck it up and be angry and deal with that later if the customer is so important.  There was no grounds for Bubbles forcing Faye to leave.  And Bubbles taking a break doesn’t mean Faye has to finish the job while she’s gone either.  Bubbles massively overreacted.

She didn't force her to leave. She suggested it, albeit a bit passive-aggressively, and when she tried to circle back to talking about work, Faye decided to leave on her own. Her subsequent claim that she was "kicked out" is simply untrue.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: hedgie on 29 May 2022, 10:55
I'm pretty sure that Bubbles didn't want Faye making things worse.
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: flondrix on 29 May 2022, 14:27
Found it! https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3753

Thank you very much.  For what it's worth, here is the fruit of your labor:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/235844107455430656/980579543469424700/SPOILER_3753_air_quotes.png)
(The two panels were originally in different rows, and are not quite the same height, so I had to jigger things.)
The whole point was to explain how a character without hands might use "air quotes."
Title: Re: WCDT for May 23rd to 27th of 2022 (strips 4791 to 4795)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 29 May 2022, 19:57
I think that it’s Faye’s cavilier/joking attitude about the whole thing (particularly with AIs being a minority that faces serious discrimination).  If they were doctors, and the patients human, most people *wouldn’t* like someone joking around like that.

The people I know in healthcare make jokes all the time.
Usually not in earshot of the patients, though.

My mother used to be a floor nurse in a hospital, and apparently they had to hide one doctor's charts when compliance came around because he would write things like "The Vulture Of Death is Perched Upon His Headboard" on them. Apparently he was a very brilliant and skilled doctor though. With the strongest southern rural accent you can imagine.