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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Farideh on 06 Nov 2022, 18:19
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No poll, sorry. Don't have the headspace to think of a decent question.
Re. today's comic: oh, Elliot. This kind of thinking turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy if you're not careful.
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...sooo... I feel like Elliot might be the tiniest bit insecure.
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...sooo... I feel like Elliot might be the tiniest bit insecure.
Just a bit.
Yay: "What am I, chopped liver?"
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You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."
(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)
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They're not just NB, they're literally a plural
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In Elliot's defence, Roko actually lives in that building. She's easier to track down for the keys.
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Didn't Yay get a recharging cubicle in the building?
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Newspost!!! :-o
As someone who doesn't touch twitter and most media sites I'm glad to see a newspost again, since I wouldn't keep up with the man otherwise.
Elon Musk is a horrible human being and the world would be better off without him.
Elliot needs chill, but he hooked up with Clinton the king of Nochill so... yeah.
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In Elliot's defence, Roko actually lives in that building. She's easier to track down for the keys.
Yeah but Elliot needs only to speak aloud, his key quandary, and an instance of Yay will be dispatched to deliver said keys whenever and wherever Elliot needs them. Yay also rents a charging booth in the building, and Roko's closet. Yay is everywhere, all the time, with all the things.
That being said, Elliot's reaction to confronting relationship anxiety amuses me because one of his other jobs is literally confronting rowdy people. Can't punch fear in the face, poor guy doesn't know how to deal; in this relationship, Clinton is the stronger of the two, for once.
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Wow, Elliot! Just... wow! Talk about adding 2+2 to get the square root of 8 or something.
I'm actually as clueless as Yay as to what triggered this. However, this is as much as a red flag as the first time Dora's insecurity made her blow her top at Marten. Barring an Author's Fiat, I don't see this relationship lasting, especially if Clinton is offered a good gig in Cubetown.
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You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."
(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)
Got confused for a minute there because I look up most passages in CJB.
Looks like VOICE is one of the very few other English translations that doesn't use a variation of "for we are many".
BTW, looks like the drect translation to English[1] is "there are so many of us".
[1] The CJB is translated directly from Hebrew and Ancient Greek to Modern English primarily for Messianic Jews.
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Aw, Elliot.
Nice to see a longer newspost. Glad Jeph is doing well. I'm really excited for Cubetown. Elon Musk sucks eggs.
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You're an NB robot who uses the Mark 5:9 "we."
(EDIT: Sorry, meant 5:9, not 3:9.)
Got confused for a minute there because I look up most passages in CJB.
Looks like VOICE is one of the very few other English translations that doesn't use a variation of "for we are many".
BTW, looks like the drect translation to English[1] is "there are so many of us".
[1] The CJB is translated directly from Hebrew and Ancient Greek to Modern English primarily for Messianic Jews.
The NAB I grew up with, for us plastic pads, does the same, but it still says "I am legion," so... kind of implied.
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While I love the two of them together, Elliot has so much insecurity in relationships.
I'm unsure that Clinton has the basic social skills to reassure him.
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While I love the two of them together, Elliot has so much insecurity in relationships.
I'm unsure that Clinton has the basic social skills to reassure him.
Elliot's insecurity is painful to witness. I wonder if we will get more of a backstory about him to get a better idea of underlying reasons (if any).
Although, TBH, as a big (very tall) and insecure guy myself, it may simply just be him always having been a huge guy. Many people don't understand it, but many tall guys are very insecure.
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Newspost!!! :-o
As someone who doesn't touch twitter and most media sites I'm glad to see a newspost again, since I wouldn't keep up with the man otherwise.
Elon Musk is a horrible human being and the world would be better off without him.
Elliot needs chill, but he hooked up with Clinton the king of Nochill so... yeah.
I wouldn't go as far as saying that the world would be better off without Musk, but the world would definitely be better off without Twitter in Musk's hands, or actually without Twitter entirely.
While Musk seems to suffer from the typical megalomaniac issues you might expect, and he seems to think he is a messiah or something, I can't help but appreciate that he pretty much singlehandedly has initiated a serious move away from fossil fuels within the car industry.
Yes, the way he does everything is despiccable, especially how he treats employees, how he flaunts rules and regulations where he wants, and how he generally wants to bend the world to his view and wishes, but nonetheless he still also displays a certain visionary mind. They're not mutually exclusive, unfortunately...
Edit: long way of saying that at some point his ideas may have had some real merit, but that he has outlived his purpose and seems to increasingly have fallen prey to his own desire for self-aggrandisement.
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Looking at the newspost, nice to see Elon Musk is still committed to showing how much he hates freedom of speech. :P
More unironically, I'm glad Jeph is taking the deletion of his Twitter account in good humour. :)
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Now I want Yay to be my password manager.
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Didn't Yay get a recharging cubicle in the building?
You're right! Forgot about that.
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Now I want Yay to be my password manager.
Yay already knows all your passwords.
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Good, because I don’t.
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With Yay around, you don't even need passwords. They can login to your accounts just by looking sternly at your computer screen.
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Maybe I can get Yay to log into my PayPal account. It now demands a mobile phone number (which I do not have) and will not accept the landline number I used to create the account years ago.
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New comic.
Clinton has some very specific pillow talk.
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...honestly, I have to wonder if Clinton would mind if Elliot spent the night with Renee, as long as they kept their trousers on. (Of course, whether Renee would mind is another story.)
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Poor Renee. *lol*
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IMO, as a general rule, Renee should probably just assume "all of it".
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THAT is NOT how quantuum physics works. Unsurprisingly, I guess.
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I dated someone like Elliot once. It was exhausting. It didn’t last. It’s one thing to reassure someone from time to time, we all have our insecure moments, but when it’s as easy to trigger as Elliot’s. Yikes. Good thing for him this is a comic and I don’t see Jeph breaking them up.
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I assume it will follow the usual pattern of such mini dramas.
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Maybe Clinton SHOULD break up with Elliot, yikes.
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Elliot really reminds me of a big dog.
Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention. Which is wonderful when you're a person who likes to give a lot of attention.
I just realized that I'm calling Elliot an Extrovert.
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Maybe Clinton SHOULD break up with Elliot, yikes.
i know right it's hard to deal with people who overreact...
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Silly Elliot, even if Clinton got into cubetown what makes you think you can't get a baker job there? all those mad science types still need to eat
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Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention.
I respectfully but vehemently disagree with this assertion.
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New comic!
NOT HELPFUL, YAY. *lol*
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Yay might actually be a good person to talk to Elliot about it. They can approach it calmly and coolly, which could encourage Elliot not to freak out.
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Silly Elliot, even if Clinton got into cubetown what makes you think you can't get a baker job there? all those mad science types still need to eat
Depends on the ratio of AIs to humans in Cubetown. If there aren't many humans, the scope for that sort of job will be small.
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Depends on the ratio of AIs to humans in Cubetown. If there aren't many humans, the scope for that sort of job will be small.
We've seen at least one human there, plus they hire humans so...
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Yay might actually be a good person to talk to Elliot about it. They can approach it calmly and coolly, which could encourage Elliot not to freak out.
More importantly, Yay is Elliott's sort-of-friend and thus can approach this as a trusted third person rather than a nosy stranger. "We think that you['re about to blow this one, Elliot."
FWIW, Elliot's anxiety and how it is stopping him from seeking help even though he is aware it is self-sabotaging his relationships reminds me of Dora and her paranoia. Remember that Tai had to draw a line in the sand and threaten to leave if she didn't seek help. Will history repeat itself? If Elliot won't seek help and just insist that a relationship is conditional on Clinton just dealing with his issues from now on then Clinton will leave and have had a lucky escape.
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Really affectionate and cuddly is the same thing as really needing a lot of attention.
I respectfully but vehemently disagree with this assertion.
They may not be the same, but they often coincide. And relationships can double that.
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Also questionable.
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Just going by several friends who are perfectly aware that their brains are being assholes to themselves, it still doesn't stop the feeling and thoughts from happening, so hopefully they find a process to mutually deal with it in a constructive way. I know I'd find it very difficult to be in Clinton's situation because while I'm generally really chill and relaxed about interactions with people, having my sincerity questioned is a HUGE trigger for the rare times I get genuinely angry, and that kind of combination is ripe for permanently burning bridges on both sides.
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New comic.
Called it! Yay, the friendly neighborhood couples' counselor, is on the case.
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Ah, Yay. Still learning how humans work... *lol*
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Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.
No wait I was being sarcastic---
uhoh...
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Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.
No wait I was being sarcastic---
uhoh...
They are very smart (just ask them), that means that they will easily be able to solve this problem!
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Ah , yes, Yay, that is definitely a good idea, because you have shown that you deeply understand human emotional responses.
No wait I was being sarcastic---
uhoh...
They are very smart (just ask them), that means that they will easily be able to solve this problem!
- Until they finally realize that this is a human issue - that is, inherently insoluble and incomprehensible...
(What?! That's how it works, isn't it?) :roll:
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This will end well. Very well indeed.
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It's too bad the obvious hubris means Yay is bound to hit a wall and find out they really can't just fix the whole situation "just like that," because they could have been the perfect entity for Elliot to talk this out with.
And as a very cuddly, affectionate introvert who's very into her alone time and isn't a fan of the pressure of "a lot of attention," citation needed on the frequency of the whole cuddly = needy thing. The people I've met who have way too many requirements for how often and in what ways they want the people in their lives to pay attention to them have not been what I'd call overtly affectionate.
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This whole thing about therapy, if Elliott wants it fine but trying to push him into it is very dubious from a non-american perspective. After all, crazy amounts of therapy haven't lead to a psychologically balanced and happy population, whereas countries with good work/life balances and friendships do ...
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It's too bad the obvious hubris means Yay is bound to hit a wall and find out they really can't just fix the whole situation "just like that," because they could have been the perfect entity for Elliot to talk this out with.
And as a very cuddly, affectionate introvert who's very into her alone time and isn't a fan of the pressure of "a lot of attention," citation needed on the frequency of the whole cuddly = needy thing. The people I've met who have way too many requirements for how often and in what ways they want the people in their lives to pay attention to them have not been what I'd call overtly affectionate.
Sorry for not snipping, but I’m on my phone and hate touch screens and trying to cut text. I totally get the feeling of people pressuring you to hang out. I’m just glad that my actual friends (rather than just acquaintances) can put up with me disappearing off the face of the planet, and are willing to pick up where a concentration left of months or even years before.
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Yay, you are really, REALLY bad at this.
But hey, you're on a roll...
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Yay, quasi-omniscient machine god, is too naive to have read the top 10 posts on r/thanksimcured and considered why they exist?
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On the other hand, Yay's bumbling intervention has put the main issue clearly on the table while simultaneously given all parties involved a nice side topic (Yay's said intervention) to relieve some of the tension of the situation.
It's a bold strategy, Cotton!
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I am once again reminded of a classic and extremely relevant xkcd (https://xkcd.com/592/).
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Oh Yay, there's the arrogant spookybot, swanning around with the air of smug self congratulatory satisfaction that I fell in love with. I was a bit worried that Jeph had retconned that out of you in the re-tooning event. Hand wavey plot device didn't work so well for you this time, did it?
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It's too bad the obvious hubris means Yay is bound to hit a wall and find out they really can't just fix the whole situation "just like that," because they could have been the perfect entity for Elliot to talk this out with.
And as a very cuddly, affectionate introvert who's very into her alone time and isn't a fan of the pressure of "a lot of attention," citation needed on the frequency of the whole cuddly = needy thing. The people I've met who have way too many requirements for how often and in what ways they want the people in their lives to pay attention to them have not been what I'd call overtly affectionate.
to be clear, I'm not at all thinking of it in terms of the idea of being the extroverted, center of attention at a party sort of thing. (might also just be a projection from personal experiences *shrug*)
Oh Yay, there's the arrogant spookybot, swanning around with the air of smug self congratulatory satisfaction that I fell in love with. I was a bit worried that Jeph had retconned that out of you in the re-tooning event. Hand wavey plot device didn't work so well for you this time, did it?
eh, they just show a different side of their personality around Roko, which is the only place we've seen Yay recently before this. (and Aurelia, but that's mostly to reinforce the 'mom vibes' motif.) Around others for whom they don't have the same level of...respect/affection/questionmark, we do see this.
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Yay is great at summarising things.
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Your fears are therefore unfounded
Oh, if it were that easy :{
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Elliot most likely knows that his fears are unfounded, but that doesn't stop him from having them.
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I now imagine Renee rolling her eyes so hard you can only see the whites of her eyes. Or bursting out laughing. Maybe both.
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Your fears are therefore unfounded
Oh, if it were that easy :{
Elliot most likely knows that his fears are unfounded, but that doesn't stop him from having them.
I muttered a snarky "Now tell that to my limbic system", then had a horrifying vision of Yay doing (or attempting) exactly that.
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"Very well, we will now hack into your central nervous system. You might feel a slight tingling sensation."
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To be honest, getting straight to the point would probably help me a lot if I were in Elliot's situation. It doesn't help that I have autism and thus getting to point is probably the only way I'd be able to pay attention long enough to really listen to what the other person is telling me.
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Dunno who the guest artist is, but top notch parody of how QC characters' problems are normally solved, five stars.
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Guest artist?
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Guest artist?
Tova is being snarky.
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Yeah, sorry.
There's a commonly used template for QC mini-arcs. Two characters have some kind of conflict, they go separately to their respective friends, they receive sage counselling from said friends with a sprinkling of QC humour, they get back together, and apologise amorously. Problem solved!
This is following a similar pattern except the Yay is the friend on both sides, and is acting as though deeply rooted issues are so easily solved. "THAT WAS EASY"
I honestly can't tell if Jeph is making gentle fun of Yay or his own comic. Hence my remark.
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It's too bad the obvious hubris means Yay is bound to hit a wall and find out they really can't just fix the whole situation "just like that," because they could have been the perfect entity for Elliot to talk this out with.
And as a very cuddly, affectionate introvert who's very into her alone time and isn't a fan of the pressure of "a lot of attention," citation needed on the frequency of the whole cuddly = needy thing. The people I've met who have way too many requirements for how often and in what ways they want the people in their lives to pay attention to them have not been what I'd call overtly affectionate.
to be clear, I'm not at all thinking of it in terms of the idea of being the extroverted, center of attention at a party sort of thing. (might also just be a projection from personal experiences *shrug*)
I also didn't mean anything like that. I noted the introversion because it means recharging alone, not requiring the energy of other people, so it's not just a party thing. In fact, the extrovert/introvert thing has nothing to do with the "center of attention" thing in general. It's kind of annoying to me how shyness (or even social anxiety) and introversion get conflated. I can happily be the center of attention if I'm in the mood for it, either while specifically performing or just telling a joke or story to a group. Doesn't mean crowds don't tire me out super fast. My extrovert brother is the one who's been known to get shy in these situations, at least as a kid, but he would be WIRED from being in a big crowd at a party.
I assumed that the attention you meant was the kind of attention to keep a relationship going. Needing more checking in, more reassurance, etc. I was pointing out that being openly affectionate and cuddly doesn't mean you need more of that, and that in fact, too much of this particular good thing would feel invasive and uncomfortable to me, or like my partner didn't trust me to trust them. It's been people who are far less of the "cuddly" type that I've known to be really demanding of that kind of attention - not consciously, but just...a lot.