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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Switchblade on 02 Aug 2005, 09:36
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Seriously, I NEED to play this game. were it not for my 56k dial-up connection, and lack of funds, I would surely be mining asteroids and dreaming of glory right now.
My respect and admiration for this game reached a peak recently, however, with the news that one the virtual world's biggest EVER crimes recently took place within the EVE universe. A group of players assassinated the CEO of the company of Ubiqua Seraph, and stole virtual goods worth $16,500 in REAL money. And because it all took place inside the game, it's all perfectly legal. I am SICK with admiration.
Furthermore, Sunday saw a record-breaking number of users online at once, with 12,895 players online simultaenously.
I have GOT to get in on that game at some point...
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I started to play this, got really conused, and then my trial ran out, and I was like, "God Dammit." But yeah. I should probably pick it up eventually.
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My brother plays that game. He told me that the skill system is set up so that it would literally, in actuality, take over 50 years to max out every single skill in the game entirely.
I hear you, Kai; I played the demo and also got wicked confused. There are some games I'm just not smart enough for, and this is a fact that I accept. :-(
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EVE is supposed to be good; if a bit technical. And takes a while for things to happen. Good way to lock in players, make them wait! The monthly fee is a bit outrageous for me, not a fan of coughing up half my cable bill just for a game.
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If I had the spare cash, I'd definitely be in EVE.
I played the trial with some online buddies of mine, and didn't want to leave... Mining > *
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I played EVE from an entire year. I was one of the best combat-players in my corporation of 30-40 players. I know this because we held weekly battle royales, it usually came down to me, and a few others, sometyimes I won, depending what my setup vs. theirs was, and how I played my cards. I tried industrialism, didnt like it much, tried mining, couldnt stand it. Only mission running and trading would do for me. Eventually, wars got boring, my corporation started to fall apart, and making money became such a chore again.
When I quit, I had 13 million skillpoints, I could fly a battleship (level 5, takes one month+week to train), a heavy assualt cruiser (takes a month to train) and use medium Tech2 railguns and blasters. I could pretty much do anything, and did a few things really well. I owned a Raven, and a Cerberus, both with over 100 million ISK in them. Whenever I started to run out of time to play games, I switched to a more leasurely game, WoW.
I'd still like to fight alongside my old comrades, we were as close as people could be across the internet.
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Okay, sorry about the thread necromancy, but I am now in on the action! (finally)
Right now, I have about 60,000 ISK to my name, three ships (an Ibis, a Heron and a Merlin), rank 3 in mining (about 16 hours from being rank 4), and am having a whale of a time.
also, some of my friends here have a corporation set up that they have invited me to join - it's a high-risk mining corporation (big payoffs, but a good probability of being attacked) and are offering me money to get an even better ship
I'm having fun, in other words.
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Is it kind of like X²: The Threat, but mmo?
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EVE is pretty awesome but I don't realy have the time to play it now Im at college.
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There are zero good songs in Donkey Conga but it's still awesome fun to beat the drums and just generally be a goof.
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EVE looks awesome.
But, fuck, I'd rather not match my Netflix bill on a MMO. Even a pretty one.
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wow, looks like an incredibly in depth online freelancer
and $20 a month is a bit steep
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totally worth it, though, believe me on that.
not only is it addictive, but deservedly so. Seriously, I own seven ships right now, and am working on the skills I need to be able to fly two more.
Seriously, it's going to be about two days before I'm ready to fly that Amarri industrial I want, and from there I'm going to work towards being able to fly the Caldari "Ferox" class battlecruiser. fulfilling that goal alone is going to take me the better part of a week, and let's not mention the time I'll need to spend on improving the skills that will let me learn other skills at a faster rate, plus I still need to put two days aside to train to mining and refining rank 4, and I have an entirely new skillset to learn if I want to use the implant I was given as a mission reward a few hours ago.
It's a good thing that skills train in real time, regardless of wether you're online or not. Apparently, the sheer number of skills you can train in this game would require a whole four years to max out, and they're introducing new ones all the time.
Also, the economy is entirely player-driven. What's valuable in the Yulai system one week probably won't be next week because the guy who was building a battleship has finished it, but somebody else has started production on a batch of power core regulation modules. Somebody might place an order for Tritanium in the Isanamo system, only for an enterprising player from Yodaki to bring it to them at a massive profit.
plus, you can found and buy shares in player-run,. player-owned corporations.
dammit, now I'm babbling.
This game is awesome. it really is worth the monthly fee
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maybe next summer, when i have more time and money
maybe the fees will have gone down by then too
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Is this EVE online? Or something different? I may end up picking this up if someone wants to start out with me. Hate playing games alone, takes the fun out of it.
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given that there's never less than about 10,000 players online at a time in EVE - at an absolute bare minimum - it's not actually possible to BE alone.
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Yea, but it's much different than staying in contact with people you can play with. Anyways, I subscribed for a month yesterday, going to give it a go. :D
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i'm attempting to find a free trial now, this looks awesome, so i couldnt resist
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Well, I did it . . I subscribed, in-game name: Bladestone
Start up a convo with me :)
Anyways, I love it so far, though starting off can be rough sometimes.
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Conva me and I could hook you up with one hell of a pirate corp :p
Names: 28 Cent.
Eve is the best game ever! mainly cause I can do basically anything I want without getting banned! (as long as I'm not hacking)
I love the freedom
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Actually, one of my friends is a long-time member of J.I.T. Enterprises, so the odds are that I'll wind up working for them.
Oh, my call sign's "Stitcher" by the way. "Switchblade" was already taken.
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YUO BASTARDS!
I looked at the homepage and now I want it with a flaming passion in my loins. Its almost worth going without eating a few days outta the month!
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Now you know how I feel.
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Damn you, sending me that link was a bad idea.
I've been begging my parents to let me get it, to be honest it's going supprisingly well!
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okay, and now the latest update is being installed as I type this. get this: the changes include:
39 new ships!
A whole new asian-style bloodline per player race (four in total)
Seven new classes of ship, including Titans and Motherships, which are basically mobile starbases capable of carrying fleets of player ships AND containing rebirth facilities that allow a downed pilot to get straight back in the fight.
Every ship now gets a 25% bonus to all it's hit points.
And a lot of stuff that's probably far more exciting for somebody who's familiar with the intricacies of EVE's game system than for outsiders.
If I were female, I would totally want to carry CCP's babies.
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Damn you, sending me that link was a bad idea.
I've been begging my parents to let me get it, to be honest it's going supprisingly well!
don't forget to say it will give you a broader knonwledge of the inner workings of economy and put you on firm footing later on in life
(DAMN, i'm good at bullshitting, i managed to turn "can pull a decent pint" into "shows masterful hand-eye coordination and precise timing")
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I got the trial. Tranquility is starting up and I'm DLing the patch.
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a quick warning: you really only get a taster fromthe trial. the game takes at least a month to get into properly.
I STRONGLY advise you to find a corporation, or at least volunteer to gang up with people and help them on missions when you start. paying attention to the whole of teh tutorial is also a really good idea.
welcome aboard!
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Can anyone, who actually plays the game, email me or pm me a 14 day trial cd key? If it lives up to the expectations, I'm definitely going to subscribe.
Thanks
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If you guys started a QC corporation, I would totally buy and play this game.
If not, I won't.
I've come to realize that my enjoyment of an MMO comes 50% from the gameplay itself, and 50% from the people I'm playing with.
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That does look cool. But im kinda an RO nut, esp since I dont really need playtime to work the market. This game looks fairly time intensive, and of course I'd actually have to pay, instead of playing on a free server. That and the fact taht its hardcore enough to be the only thing running on my comp, no MSN chats in the background.
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Can anyone, who actually plays the game, email me or pm me a 14 day trial cd key? If it lives up to the expectations, I'm definitely going to subscribe.
Thanks
Go via Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com) why don't you?
Be warned, I strongly doubt that you'll be able to glean more than the meagrest scraps of the game's wonderfulness from a mere fortnight of play.
I've come to realize that my enjoyment of an MMO comes 50% from the gameplay itself, and 50% from the people I'm playing with.
I'm in a corp that has one of my university friends as an administrator. 's called JIT Enterprises, and they are all VERY wonderful people who gave me a 26,000,000 ISK Ferox Battlecruiser for a mere 10,000,000 ISK, plus something in the order of a further 2,000,000 in equipment and suchlike TOTALLY FREE.
there are some truly lovely people in that game. Obviously, there are dickheads as well, but they would appear to be in the minority.
Interesting news: I ran into Zarquon Beeblebrox, one of the game's "Celebrity" players quite recently. He flew past me in a Cerberus while under fire from the CONCORD battleships on the gate due to his low security rating. It was pretty cool.
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Just picked up this game the other day and spent my day trying my hand at mining and running screaming from pirates. It's been fun so far and I'm definetly interested in the idea of having a QC corp (AnthroCorp anyone? After Pintsize?) or really just hooking up with any larger corporation to get a better idea of what's going on.
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Ok, i havent finished the tutorial yet, but it seems somewhat clunky and convoluted to me. Last game like this I played was EV:Override, and i had alot of fun with that. Very smooth, good controls, and similar (though much simpler) economic structure. In this game, im bumping into asteroids and can barely track the pirates myself. Maybe it just takes more time, but as of now, im not too impressed.
Also, can you control the ship freely after the tutorial, or is it still point, click, fly here? I like to have more freedom during dogfights.
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Ok, i havent finished the tutorial yet, but it seems somewhat clunky and convoluted to me.
I'm done with the tutorial, and have now moved on to courier jobs. It does have a pretty hefty amount of required knowledge and the controls aren't the best, but the more you play the easier it gets (the mechanics, not the gameplay). If you've got a fair amount of time to toss into this game, it seems like it could be very rewarding.
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Yay for Eve, and for EVE-radio :)
Seriously tough, I'm playing the trail account now, and am seriously considering getting myself acreditcard so I can continue...
Also, everyone tune in to http://www.eve-radio.com/, they absolutely rock :), and I won 3 mil ISK for me and a buddie(he got 3 mil as well), in "Knowing me, knowing n00b" last wednesday :)
I've currently docked my Cormorant for christmas in Sobaseki VII, my ingame-nick is Verergoca.
Yay for EVE!
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I've been playing for about 15 months now. It's awesome :D
also, you don't need a credit card, a debit card works just fine.
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Yay for Eve, and for EVE-radio :)
Seriously tough, I'm playing the trail account now, and am seriously considering getting myself acreditcard so I can continue...
Also, everyone tune in to http://www.eve-radio.com/, they absolutely rock :), and I won 3 mil ISK for me and a buddie(he got 3 mil as well), in "Knowing me, knowing n00b" last wednesday :)
I've currently docked my Cormorant for christmas in Sobaseki VII, my ingame-nick is Verergoca.
Yay for EVE!
Cool, Sobaseki's one of my recent haunts. I used to do missions there. I've still got a stash of equipment in Isanamo.
Right now, I'm working for JIT Enterprises. Our nearest office to Sobaseki is in Korama, but our regional base is Oimmo.
If you want to join a corp, believe me there are far worse to join. The people of JIT really are very cool. As a policy, they'll replace any ship you lose while on a corporation activity. They're great.
In fact, I went out to 0.0 space with some of them tonight. spent a happy while hunting rat battleships around the local systems.
Then a Player pirate fleet hauled in and threatened the Forsaken Empire base in IMK-K1, so we all geared ourselves up in cheaper ships that we wouldn't mind losing and joined in the defense of all that. Didn't lead to a big fight, but it was fun.
fun.
EDIT: take my advice and steer well clear of Arcane Technology Corporation, and The Five Alliance. They're bastards. gate-camping motherfuckers destroyed my Ferox and podded me today.
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Ouch, painfull...
At the moment Im at the end of my trail, 1 day to go:). But when my creditcard turns up (yes I got one so I could play:)) ill join up properly...
Also, at the moment, I have; a Caracal (whoo, fireworks), a Osprey for mining, a Cormorant (love flying this thing), a Condor (for courier type missions, gotta love 700+ m/s) and a shuttle. :)
Oh, and I am in contact with Production Inc, who ill join up with when I get in properly :)
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I finally got in on the epics. Band Of Brothers attacked the Forsaken Empire territory in Tribute. D7-ZAC had more than 100 players in it last night, including seven dreadnoughts. I think the FE only survived because the server collapsed under the load.
Caught up in that lot was me in my little tackler kestrel, desperately trying to make a difference.
After that mess was sorted out, The Five basically decided to have some fun as well.
At which point most of my corp either got podded or else clone jumped back to Empire space.
Not that that matters much, because as of ten minutes from now, open hostilities will begin between JIT Enterprises and "Out Of Exile", who declared war on us yesterday for reasons we haven't quite figured out.
Pretty certain that they're in for a nasty shock. We're care-bears, but most of the corp are veterans, and can handle themselves well.
Present funds: 5,990,000-ish ISK. Currently flying: a tackler kestrel, because I don't want to lose my replacement Ferox.
fun level: orbital
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Im not that far yet, however, today I joined up with that company, and I expect to have even more fun. Trading all the time gets a bit boring, but hey, with a base perception of 4, training ships doesnt go that fast :)
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right well... recent developments...
Got blown up ferrying about 3,000 units of Zydrine out of Alliance space so I could sell it in Empire space. the guy who stole my minerals was a member of a corp we'd only recently stopped being at war with, and he was camping a gate in a 0.0 system. All's fair, but that Zydrine was worth about 15 million, so I ain't happy.
In response to this, I have created a purely PvP alternate character. Amarrian. The aim is to become the ultimate tech 2 badass at each level of gun size, which means the character will be flying assault frigates and using tech 2 small lasers before moving on to cruisers. Look out for "Niala Tarn" sometime.
This will, however, take a while to accomplish...
The war was a result of my corp's being friendly with the Forsaken Empire Alliance... a status which meant we were attracting player aggression, but didn't have the right to call on the FE to back us up. In response to this, the corp is presently voting on wether or not to join the Forsaken Empire full-time. If that were to happen, we would probably become part of FE's official mining and production wing, and my Alt, when ready, would be transferred across to join HUN corp or something where I could stretch my PvP wings. Greater responsibility, greater risk, even BIGGER payoff. It'd probably also mean that the corp would grow considerably.
My only problem is that I don't presently have the means (ie: a visa, mastercard or American express card) to open a second account to move my alt character onto, which means that while I'm training the Niala character up, I'm completely unable to train Stitcher.
luckily, there are now apparently EVE time cards available from game stores, which should make my life simpler.
Life in EVE is rarely boring, once you're past a certain point...
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ZOMG, our alliance is at war! A small, highly skilled merc corp, appearantly hired to get 1 of the members is keeping us busy...
I feel so tiny beeing in my Catalyst in a fleet of 6-ish battleships of various forms and sizes...
Luvin it!
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Congratulations! EVE's PvP is second to none, mate, and if you get stuck in, you'll unlock the game's REAL strength.
it looks like we're officially joining the Forsaken Empire. In response, I have also begun to focus my main character's training on Assault Frigates and interceptors... and a well-equipped assault frigate will Hadoken a poorly-equipped battleship every time. A squadron of five assault frigates is a NASTY force for any foe to come up against.
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True... Currently im still going for cruisers, I already got 2 cruisers from 2 mates, they won 18 and 16m in DJ Saunders contest thing yesterday. Way cool! :)
*dances*
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I'm looking forward to assault frigs... a Caldari assault frig comes with shield resistances of:
EM: 0%
Explosive: 60%
Kinetic: 70%
Thermal: 80%
the prequisite skills for flying a caldari assault frig include having Caldari Frigates at rank 5, and ever level in that skill increased the ship's shield resistances vs. kinetic and thermal damage by 15% each...
Meaning that by default caldari assault frigates are effectively immune to railgun and blaster fire, and don't have a huge amount to fear from lasers either, nor the two most popular missile varieties in the game. Combine that with their speed and small signature radius and they become a battleship's worst nightmare!
Combine that with tech 2 railguns loaded with tech 2 ammo, and a ship the size of a house can quite easily take on a ship the size of a town.
Guess how much I'm looking forward to running into the guy who blew up my Kestrel and stole my 3,000 units of Zydrine last week... *muahahaha*
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Well, its a t2 ship, therefor it should be able to wreck any t1 ship in one way or another. Only downside is the amount of ammo you need. Ofcourse t2 ammo helps, but I have no experience with that stuff yet, well, exept my relatively quick Incursus beeing shot down by a Taranis...
Ahwell... I really should get studying now...
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Right, so I've got a month and a bit before uni starts, during which time I don't have much to do. Any ideas how I could find a trial cd-key? EVE definately sounds like the sort of game and universe I could get heavily into.
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the free game download comes with a 14-day free trial
Trial CDs come with 30 days.
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Ok, right. Awesome.
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oh man i wish i had the money to play this, it sounds wonderful.
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Oh, it is, man. I need to get this game so bad.
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It doesn't look like the download from the site comes with the 14 day trial, but after a bit of digging I see you have to go here: https://secure.eve-online.com/ft/?sk=GHELL to get it. It doesn't seem well advertised, but it's there.
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well, eve-radio.com added a new feature to their site less than ten hours ago - a blog feature.
Now, I already have a blog, but I've created one there as well.
Why? Because I'm a shameless slave to RP. I'm RPing the career of my character in the form of a mission log.
Eve-radio's a good site, too. A good way to relieve yourself of the monotony of the in-game music.
http://www.eve-radio.com/forums/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=6#e7
Only problem is you have to register with the site in order to access it. if you play EVE, however, I suggest that you do.
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i'm getting into this right now. Switchblade, how much do your starting skills and attributes matter? i've gathered that mining and industry (the things i'm interested in) are dependent upon Intelligence and Memory, but the dude that i am playing at the moment is mainly geared for the running of the ship.
will that matter much if i mean to become a miner/trader? i mean, how hard will it be for me to buy new skills and train them up? so far i've earned about 75k and bought a Bantam (i'm Caldarian, started at the State War Academy in The Forge system, currently mining in Jita) should i create a new character that is more Intelligence & Memory oriented, or does it not matter all that much once you get going?
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You can train up your attributes by training skills (ie. instant recall for memory)
If I can get game time cards here in Perth I am so gonna continue, else I'm going to have to seriously consider it.
Also: I swear that the blues is the greatest soundtrack to a space game ever.
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i'm getting into this right now. Switchblade, how much do your starting skills and attributes matter? i've gathered that mining and industry (the things i'm interested in) are dependent upon Intelligence and Memory, but the dude that i am playing at the moment is mainly geared for the running of the ship.
will that matter much if i mean to become a miner/trader? i mean, how hard will it be for me to buy new skills and train them up? so far i've earned about 75k and bought a Bantam (i'm Caldarian, started at the State War Academy in The Forge system, currently mining in Jita) should i create a new character that is more Intelligence & Memory oriented, or does it not matter all that much once you get going?
Your basic attributes directly affect how fast your skills train - a high intelligence will affect intelligence-based skills, that much you've figured out.
the lovely thing about EVE skill training is that getting a new skill is as simple as having the money to afford the book, and the patience to wait for it.
Skill books cost somewhere between 18,000 credits and a few million, depending upon the level of the skill to be trained and various other factors. They aren't created by players, but appear in-game.
My advice to you is to find the nearest School of Applied knowledge. If memory serves, there isn't one in Jita, but there's one in Isanamo (four jumps from where you are) one in Todaki, and one in Vuorassi that I can remember. SoAKs sell skill books cheaper than other places.
One fantastic set of skills to look into is the "learning" set. This consists of two skill books per attribute, and one general skill. Each attribute-specific skill raises your attributes by one point per level (to an obvious maximum of ten extra points) and the "learning" skill improves all your attributes by 2% per level, to an extra 10% to each attribute at level 5. combine this with stat-boosting implants, and you can boost any attribute score you care to name by anything up to about 16.4 points - which has a knock-on effect to your learning speed.
your attribute abilities have no actual in-game effect beyond skill training however - your perception doesn't affect your combat skills, nor does your intelligence affect the yield of your mining lasers. all your attributes do is allow you to learn faster.
In short, no, your attributes as a miner won't hold you back as a fighter, or anything else, beyond adding an extra stretch of time (anywhere between a few minutes and a few days, depending on the skill rank and level) to your training times. This isn't really a handicap at lower-level skills, but at higher levels, the time spent boosting your attributes will translate into weeks of saved time.
If I were you, I'd grab three ranks in each of the learning skills after getting yourself to about level 3 in caldari frigates. That'll see you through until you're ready to move into your first battleship or assault frigate. After you've achieved that, it's then a good idea to finish training all the learning skills.
Please allow me to suggest a career path:
train Learning, Analytical mind and Instant recall to level 3
train Caldari Frigates to level 4.
Train Caldari Cruisers to level 1 and purchase an Osprey (be warned, the Osprey will be expensive. Contact me under the name of "Stitcher" if you need some financial support)
Train Mining to level 4
Buy three Mining laser 2s and fit them to the osprey
Train Caldari Cruisers to level 4.
What you now have is the best mining cruiser in the game, and it's well kitted out. That Osprey hauls in ore with three mining lasers, and your levels in Caldari Cruiser boost the yield of each laser by 40% be warned that it's not a combat vessel, so you'll probably want to keep a combat-focused vessel like a Merlin on standby for dealing with any rats that show up while you're mining.
Train Refining to level 4 (vital for getting your money's worth out of the ore you mine)
Train Gallente frigates to level 3, and then train Gallente industrial to level 5.
This will take a long time, but it'll be well worth it, because when you hit Gallente industrials level 5, you'll be capable of flying the best tech 1 industrial haulers in the game (namely Iteron Mark Vs)
From there, you're basically set up to while away some time mining asteroid belts, dropping the ore thus retrieved into a jettisoned cargo container, and coming back to retrieve it in your Iteron, later on.
From there, I'd advise you to find out the skills needed for you to use cargo expanders, shield boosters, armour repairers, shield hardeners, armour hardeners, and afterburners, in that order, and train them.
Finally, take a look at mining barges on the market, and see what skills you need in order to be able to fly them. Train those. Check to see if you have the skills to be able to use strip mining modules, too, and train those. That done, work towards acquiring a mining barge. Try to go straight for the top, if you can, and buy a Covetor.
Watch as the cash flows in.
If you really want to become a good miner however, mate, the corp I work for are primarily miners, and we have some people who know mining far better than I do. We're called J.I.T. Enterprises. Our bases in that region are in Korama and Oimmo, and you'd find it a lot easier to get the resources together to do what I just suggested as part of a corp.
The only downside is that we're fairly active out in 0.0 space (we're friends of - probably soon to be members of - the Forsaken Empire) so you may want to bear that in mind. If the idea of getting caught up in Alliance politics isn't your idea of fun, then there are plenty of other mining corps out there (such as "Rocks 2 Riches") who do a lot of empire-based mining.
Drop me a line in-game, yeah? if it's possible, I'll try and drop what I'm doing and help out in a mining operation.
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Whee its spreading!
Est, I think that the best advise is to join a corp with a fair few members, and just learn from them. I would invite you to join Production Inc, but as most of my corp is based in europe/US, I think there might be a few time differences.
Also, I have roughly the same makeup for my character, (started with perception 4), and those learning skills do help. However, for such a character you want, i'd say that int and mem are more important. Learning the mining/industrial skills goes way faster with those high.
Ahwell, im off to bed.
*edit* Est, what's your ingame name?
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my current in-game name is "Darnan", but the more i think about it the more i'm starting to believe that remaking my character would be a good idea. basically i am a Caldarian and i started out at an Academy of War and have some pretty lame stats. at the moment i've only got about $60k and a Bantam, which i am guessing i could pass on to my new character somehow, right? i've only really been playing for a couple of days, so i'm not going to lose much in the way of skill research time.
if i do end up creating a new character i'll probably be named "Est (something)". perhaps "Est Xplosif" or perhaps i'll expand the "Est" to "Estarriol". my original "est" name was "Estarriol Sunforge", which i like. however, "Sunforge" is a typically MMORPG name, being a compound "noun-verb" surname, so perhaps it'll be something else. (an Amarrian named "Cardinal Biggles" ? hmmm ...)
so yeah, give Darnan an Evemail and i'll add you to friends or whatever the hell Eve has, and i'll update whoever i'm in contact with if/when i change my player name.
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Well, if you're going to restart, you've chosen a good time to do it.
Take my advice and start at the School of Applied Knowledge this time. Try using your Charisma as a points well to supply your other stats (it's really only important when dealing with NPCs)
My present stats:
Name: Stitcher
Corporation: J.I.T. Enterprises
Total Cash: 11,397,075 ISK
Total skill points: 1,433,697
Intelligence 10
Perception 13
Charisma 6
Willpower 7
Memory 13
That's after playing for about three months, with about a week in the middle where I couldn't access the game and wasn't training skills. I'm on a low swoop at the moment for money - I had thirty-six million a few months ago.
you really will win more ISK by joining a corp than by trying to go solo - and the thing is that the more ISK you have, the better the resources you have, so the faster you earn money.
Like I say, look me up in-game, and I'll be glad to help you out. You and I operate within four or five systems of each other.
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Currently I'm going by 'Toolivus' but I will probably start afresh and with renewed intention as 'McTaggart' or even 'Toolivus McTaggart' when I inevitably decide to subscribe.
For now I'm still poking things and seeing how they work and what sort of character I want. I'm thinking long range lasers and tanked shields.
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/me adds people to QC folder in buddylist
Oh, my current stats;
Vergo Newman
Production Inc
29,766,662 ISK
390,814 SP
Intelligence 12
Perception 8
Charisma 7
Willpower 8
Memory 14
This is my 2nd character, I had a Verergoca, but it took me the trail account to figure out what I want:)
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Wow, four hundred thousand SP and you already have nearly thirty million?
I predict great wealth in your future...
For now I'm still poking things and seeing how they work and what sort of character I want. I'm thinking long range lasers and tanked shields.
Unfortunately, none of the races make any provision for this. for starters, lasers are medium-range guns, and the only race whose ships provide laser bonuses are the Amarrians, who are famed armour tankers.
The longest-ranged guns are railguns, so you'll be best off playing as the Caldari, who are the "long range guns, missiles and shield tanking" crowd in EVE.
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I have started Toolivus McTaggart as the character that I will continue with. I'll add all of you tomorrow but for now I'm off to work (yet still training. Tha's awesome).
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i went on my first few Agent missions the other day. is there any way to tell how difficult the missions are going to be before you take them? i took a mission that i thought carried on from a certain one i had just completed, and when i warped out into the area they asked me to there were a billion* ships that pounded me & left me podding it back to a base. on the bright side, it was one hell of a learning experience.
i've since bought a Merlin and kitted it out with two hybrid turrets + two missile turrets and gone back and kicked their asses, but that's not the point. i still lost a perfectly good Bantam due to not being able to see anything that told me that this was a much more difficult mission than the last one.
in fact, the (storyline) missions that i've picked up then seem to be of the "set course for something, activate autopilot, go make a cup of tea, come back and dock with the target station" variety. i've since learned to ask for more details, but that still doesnt' really let you know what you're going to be going up against on the mission. am i too used to EQ/FFXI/WoW-style hand-holding in regards to missions?
so anyway, i'm flying about in a Merlin now. just bought another Bantam & am training my Frigates skill to 4 as we speak (3D 16H etc etc ...) in preparation for learning how to fly Cruisers. will be doing a few more missions then going back to mining, or perhaps alternating between the two so that i don't get the Space Madness.
* ok, so like maybe 5 or 6. whatever.
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Bantams are primarily mining vessels, which is probably why you got your tail handed to you.
Agents are pretty simple, really - level 1 missions can be dealt with in frigates, though some will be too hard for the lower-end frigates. a destroyer can handle any level 1 mission the game throws at you.
Level 2 missions are the next rung up the ladder - a cruiser will handle them okay, a battlecruiser will pwn.
Level 3 missions are designed for solo battleships, though a battlecruiser can handle them with the right gear
level 4 missions are designed to be a challenge for experienced battleship players. usually they're played in "extravaganza" format, which is where you take some mates along.
tech 2 assault frigates can handle level 3 missions, and heavy assault cruisers should handle level 4 missions.
Some advice, mate, it's actually more worth your while to work in order of gun size than ship size, after a certain point. Get yourself to about level 4 on all the cruiser-based skills, get yourself an Osprey and perhaps a battlecruiser, and then drop back down to frigate and destroyer scale: work on tech 2 small railguns, tech 2 light missiles, and all the ships that use them (frigates, destroyers, assault frigates, interceptors, interdictors and covert ops vessels) before you move on to mastering cruisers (anbd battlecruisers, heavy assault cruisers and command ships). before finally moving on to battleships. I'd also advise getting together the skills to fly a mining barge between getting those tech 2 frigates and improving your cruiser skills.
Why does this work better? SImply put, though small railguns still won't out-damage a large railgun, they're far more accurate, and with the right skills on board, in the right ship, you can routinely break 100 damage with them, at a nice high rate of fire. Assault frigs have a deserved reputation at the moment based purely on the fact that they're really quite mighty, being quite able to bring down a battleship, in the right conditions.
My corp's been detouring from it's usual path to get itself into assault frigs at the moment. I've still got about 20 days to go, myself, but we tested one of the director's Enyos versus my Ferox the other day, and discovered that heavy missiles were just bouncing off for about 3 points of damage each. (and my ferox setup churns out five such missiles a round). given that the enyo's armour repairer was repairing about that much damage per round, I just wasn't getting past her tank.
On the other hand, I did manage to shield tank her to a standstill - my cap outlasted hers, with my shields holding steady at about 65% and my cap at about 50%.
Still they're tough little bastards are assault frigates...
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i'm actually thinking about going for a halfway option at the moment and going to a Destroyer before Cruisers. i'm the kind of person who likes to take their time and develop all my skills before moving on to the next jump, so going up that one step to a Destroyer seems more logical to me (plus, the name is cool, c'mon DESTROYER)
but yeah, i'm still debating starting a new character too. we'll see what happens!
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Destroyers make lvl1 missions very easy, something to do with a buttload of guns:)
I'd get one asap, destroyers have:
-loads of guns, which will help against anything you face in a lvl1 mission
-a sizeable cargohold, which will allow you to do better hauling (though indys are even better...) and mining.
-Destroyers are fun to fly. Sometimes me and a buddy just get our destroyers, and go hunt rats in belts, way fun.
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Destroyers are awesome, and I highly advise getting one. the tech 2 versions, interdictors, are like super-fast interceptors with uber guns and assault frigate-grade shields/armour.
be warned, while a destroyer will completely own tech 1 frigates, it will die painfully against a cruiser. interdictors
like I say, it's probably in your best interests now to stick with the character you've got. it's not your stats that count, it's your skills.
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I've got this bad habit with all rpgs. I make a character, play, make another character, play etc. So I've restarted as McTaggart (Gallente, because Gallente space looks better and I just like their society better (why you'll never see me playing a Caldari)). By the time this downtime's over I'll be able to fly my Incursus.
Now I just need to sort out how I can pay efficiently using paypal and I'll be set.
One thing that did dissapoint me was the difficulty involved in flying my noob ship into the sun.
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You mean the fact that the closest you can warp to a star is a few hundred thousand kilometres?
And the latest big news from EVE?
The Five and The Forsaken Empire and now friendly, PA and NBSI are pissed off at them both, and poor little JIT Enterprises is caught in the crossfire and doesn't really know what to do. - NBSI's even shooting JIT members up, despite our not being members of the Forsaken Empire!
It's a bad time to go into 0.0 for me or any one of my corp because we don't know who's friendly, who isn't, and wether ANYBODY up there is going to shoot us or hug us.
Looks like my EVE character has suffered the ancient chinese curse of living in interesting times.
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that's IT. when i pay off this stupid holiday the first thing i'm doing is getting invovled with this game. god damn all of you for making it sound so interesting.
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YAY! Let the propaganda machines keep on rolling!
Anyway... To the news... WOW! Looks like BoB is going to have some difficult times...
Lets see.... PI = UCC, UCC is allied to IRON. IRON is...
Nevermind, Ill see how stuck ill get in this nice change in political course
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Is being a Combat person viable in EVE, or is it all about Mining? Er, if it is viable, could someone recommend a Skill-Path? By IM or post...doesn't matter, i guess, and as soon as my normal gaming computer gets fixed i'm all over this game!
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EVE is far more combat-oriented than anything else - in fact, it's probably one of the most, if not the most, PvP-oriented MMORPGs. Unfortunately, PvP combat is rarely profitable.
Being a good fighter is basically a case of getting the right skills together, and being able to afford the ships to go with it.
By far the easiest EVE race for PvP combat is the Caldari - they're the ones who become ready for war first.
To become a Caldari PvPer, simply train yourself into tech 1 cruisers, buy a Caracal, and maximise your heavy missile skills. You are now ready to fight. Then train Engineering skills, railgun and gunnery skills, and then, once that's done, get out there and gank. Subsequently work towards the tech 2 version of the Caracal, the Cerberus, and pwn even harder.
Some good Caldari PvP setups:
Kestrel: equip a kestrel with four light missile launchers, an afterburner, warp scrambler, stasis webifier, and targetting disruptor. Fit as many lowslots as possible with capacitor power relays. This is a "tackler" and it's a vital role in large fleet actions - you stop enemies from escaping, and slow them down so that your larger friends can hit them more easily and do more damage. very cheap to replace.
Caracal - Equip with five heavy missile launchers filled with tech 2 heavy missiles. Also equip with a shield booster, kinetic and thermal shield hardeners, and an afterburner. fill the lowslots with whatever you like. This is something of a glass cannon, but it's also fairly cheap to replace, at about 10 million.
Raven - big guns, lots of cruise missile/torpedo launchers, shield tanking. Very expensive, lots and lots of damage going either way.'nuff said.
Vital skills for a PvPer of any description - Engineering skills, mechanic skills, gunnery skills, missile skills, drone skills, ship command skills, Learning. Of secondary importance: electronic warfare, propulsion jamming, warp core operation, navigation.
Be warned that becoming a good PvPer is a matter of time and money, and you will inevitably have to fall back on mining every now and again in order to fund your life of violence.
One thing - while Caldari get to PvP soonest, they are not necessarily the best at it. The gallente and the Minmatar both require far more time and effort to get to work properly as PvPers, but the result when they're ready for action is best summed up as "ZOMG!"
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Does close range work for pvp or would you just get shredded before you got to your target?
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close-range combat is not only viable, it's incredibly popular. it just takes some skill to pull off.
four Gallente combat setups that are rightly feared throughout the known universe:
The "Blasterax" - a thorax-class cruiser sporting a 10MN microwarpdrive, blasters, armour hardeners, an armour repairer, and heavy combat drones. Use the microwarpdrive to get right up close and personal, hug the enemy ship, and unload an unholy degree of high-powered blaster fire into his hull at close range, while the drones shred him.
The "Blasterthron" - as above, but using a Megathron battleship
The "Suicide Deimos" - as above, but using a Deimos class heavy assault cruiser that's tanking so hard that entire fleets-worth of firepower bounce off. often used as a distraction in large fleet engagements - you'll probably lose the deimos, but while the enemy fleet's distracted firing at it, your guys can fire without being fire upon, and if they ignore it, then they've got a very powerful, very damaging ship punching straight into their ranks where it can do the most damage.
The "Vampire Dominix" - a Dominix class battleship that uses heavy nosferatu energy vampires to fuel it's armour tank while it's drones and blasters mince whatever it's up against.
Blaster-and-drone close range combat is not only viable, it's not only fun, it's also the most damaging - blasters have the highest damage ratio of any of the guns in the game, but also the shortest range, and the Gallente excel at blaster warfare because they armour tank, which isn't affected severely by using a microwarp drive. In fact, Thorax and Deimos cruisers reduce the penalty to their max capacitor for mounting a Microwarpdrive by 5% of the maximum cap per level - which means that a pilot with level 5 in Gallente cruisers can mount an MWD without affecting his cap in the slightest, and of course, the Gallente combat philosophy revolves around armour tanking anyway, which means that the reduction in shield HP for mounting an MWD has little effect on them.
Caldari especially hate blaster gallenteans, because a blaster-equipped ship gets right inside their gun range, making it very difficult for them to do any damage except with missiles.
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Awesome, I was thinking that the Thorax looked like a ship I could see myself doing pretty well in.
So much to learn.
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Meh, everyone and his mother fly's a thorax. To me it depends on what you whish to become. A hybrid master, go thorax and then Megathron, if you want to master the arts of droid warfare, get a Vexor. You also might consider the Exequror. You dont see many of them flying, beeing overshadowed by the Thorax and Vexor, but if you are into courier missions, it has a major advantage, a humongous cargohold (for a cruiser), while still able to defend itself. Also, it looks cool.
Anyways. Im switching corp. Some RL buddies have found a more active corp than what Im in now, and im invited. Yay!
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I've had to come home for my best friend's daughter's christening, so no EVE for me until Monday evening at the earliest. :(
Oh well, given that we're being caught in the crossfire between PA/NBSI and FE/.5. that's hardly a bad thing.
one week to go for Caldari frigates level 5!
six days after that for Mechanic 5
probably a month after that for assault frigates 5
Then I start working on gunnery skills so I can actually become teh l33t small railgun pwnz0r.
having achieved that goal, I will then move on to Interceptors and covert ops ships
Only then will I move on to becoming teh l33t medium railgun pwnz0r...
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Hey guys, once again, i'm back from the dead..(And possibly doing thread necromacy, Hah, Hows that for a double Entente!) Anyway, drop me a line, my character name is SeriNerra!
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Hit Caldari Frigates 5 today.
Also scored me a +2 perception implant, and started working on Mechanic level 5, which should be ready in about 8 days and 4 hours.
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Nice, I hit Gallente Firgates 4 two days ago and haven't been able to do anything because paypal isn't talking to my fucking bank. *twitch*
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Well, I'm well on my way to my goal. in about eight days or so, I will be hopping into my first Harpy.
After that, the idea is to get together the skills to use tech 2 small railguns, then max out the assault frigates skill, max out the "Small railgun specialization" skill, and then max out gallente frigates, small blaster specialization, Small projectile specialization, Minmatar frigates, small laser specialization, Amarrian frigates, and then get the skills for interceptors. I don't actually intend to fly amarrian assault frigates, but I definitely want to fly the amarrian interceptors.
That done, I'll work on maxing out my stats and max out Gallente industrials, then get into mining barges, then max out my missile skills and drone skills.
that lot should keep me going for a long time.
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my pc decided to go belly-up the other night (motherboard died) so i'm currently out of the game for a bit. i've installed it on Heather's oc and set myself to learning the 7-day lvl 5 memory skill (Instant Recall?) so that i'm not wasting all that time.
currently researching new parts for an upgrade instead of just replacing the board (my pc is maybe 3 years old, so it's due for one) then i'll be back in the game.
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Those learning skills are incredibly useful... and here's a tip: the primary and secondary attributes involved in all of the "learning" skills are Intelligence and Memory. max those two out (with the advanced skills too) plus "Learning", and you'll learn the rest of the learning skills so much faster.
If you want to save time, though, don't bother with the charisma skills until you've got a moment where you're not sure what to train next. they really aren't all that useful, seeing as they only affect NPC interaction in a PvP game...
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Don't the advanced learning skills have the attribute they increase as their primaries?
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nope. Intelligence and Memory, all the way.
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to be nitpicky: Memory and Intelligence. i always thought it was Primary = Intelligence, Secondary = Memory. however, after reading up a bunch about them i found it was the other way around (hence my training Memory to 5 first).
next up: Eidetic Memory to level 4, then Analytical Mind to 5, then Logic to 4, then learning to 5!
wee!
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Which means your stats are already far beyond mine, even if you take my +2 perception implant into account...
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Okay, paypal is cooperating so I should be online on monday (conveniently also the start of uni).
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Hey - long time lurker, first time poster here. =)
Based on this thread, and with some minor assistance from other websites with reviews, I downloaded and purchased EVE two days ago.
I'm completely and utterly HOOKED on this game. I've never played anything so open-ended (Two and a half years of FFXI and WoW combined - with a smattering of DAoC, RO, GW thrown in for flavor) in my life... and I'm kinda scared. I finally got through the tutorial, and now I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.
I'm trying to rig up my ship for mining, but unfortunately the in-game info isn't quite as helpful with its descriptions as I'd like.
I'm Minmatar, got my first Frigate, bought a Mining Laser 1, done a couple missions, and for the most part (due to almost-constant girlfriend agro) been just traveling and leveling skills (Gunnery Rank 1 Level 2, Small Turrent Gunnery level 1 rank 2, Mining Rank 1 level 3, Leadership Rank 1 Level 2, Instant Recall and Learning both at level 1 ((Just found out about these today so I'm working on it ^^)), Mechanic Rank 1 level 2, repair systems rank 1 level 1, Navigation Rank 1 level 2, Minmatar FrigateRank 2 level 4, Spaceship Command Rank 1 level 3).
I don't really know what I want to do in particular right now... mostly just make money I guess. I'm not super-social in games because of how frequently I end up AFK or talking to my g/f IRL it gets hard to hold conversations online for longer periods of time. I'm just going for an all-around lone-wolf kinda guy - a little of this, a little of that.
I don't know how "good" it is - but what I love about this game is that the entire POINT isn't worrying about being "good" or being decked out in the uber-gear after grinding for a few months to max level - it's about doing what you want and having fun.
I just wish the tutorial had been a little more detailed on some things (I know, crazy thought). I don't understand a LOT of the finer points of the game.
If anyone wants to chat or hang out in-game or something, drop me a line - character's name is Captain Ransom.
Sorry for the long post, it's 3:30am, I'm trying to re-adjust my sleep schedule for a new job (working graveyard shift 10pm-6am now) and I'm really tired. =(
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Can someone send me a 'buddy program' invite? E-mail: [email protected]
Thanks!
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Done.
Time for an update on my progress, I guess.
For starters, my goals and focus have shifted somewhat during the last few weeks. I've now got a definite image in my head of how I want to do things.
See, a while back I won a "Claw" class Minmatar interceptor on an EVE Radio (http://www.eve-radio.com) competition, and decided it'd be better to fly that than sell it.
Meanwhile, I got my hands on a couple of Omen BPCs (for the newbies: a BPC is a BluePrint Copy - it's what allows us industrial types to build things). Now, of all the cruisers in the game, the one that I most like is the Omen, and its tech 2 Heavy Assault Cruiser counterpart the Zealot.
Finally, I now have battleship skills for both the Caldari and Amarr ships, though at present the only battleship I own is a Scorpion. I'm a few days off swapping that for a Raven, though.
so, my ship piloting approach is as follows:
Frigates: Minmatar (Claw Interceptor, Wolf assault frigate), Caldari (Hawk assault frigate)
Incidentally, a recent static game update changed the way the Hawk works. It's now effectively an assault kestrel, using four missile launchers. It's a much more effective ship now, being tougher than the Harpy, with a similar damage output.
Cruisers: Amarr (Omen cruiser, and in about 2 months a Zealot HAC) Caldari (Caracal cruiser)
Battleships: Amarr (Armageddon), Caldari (Raven)
Mining: Retriever (tier 2 mining barge)
Hauling: Presently, I use an Amarr "Bestower". in a couple of months, though, I'll train up Gallente industrials and swap over into an Iteron V.
My skill focus: Right now, I'm putting together the skills to get myself into that Zealot. From there, Iteron Mark V haulers, and from there I want the skills for tech 2 small projectile guns, tech 2 medium lasers, and tech 2 light missiles. After that, I'll be working towards a covetor, and from there, I'll settle down into an industrial role and try to get my hands on some BPOs.
so, I have my course now.
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After cruising around in a Vexor with giant armour plates, tiny guns and drones for a while I've take to the odd bit of belt piracy. It's fun, and no-one expects to be beaten by a Catalyst (Gallente destroyer, armour like a wet paper bag, but 8 slots for guns) I don't use the 8 guns though, and the guns I am running are tiny, but I'll drain any frigate's capacitor in about 10 seconds.
if you're interested in the details:
4x 75mm rails (antimatter ammo), 4 small energy vampires
webber, 20km scrambler
2x small repper, 400mm plate.
I'm proud of that setup, too bad it's so slow.
What I'm training for now, is the Omen, then the Zealot, then the Absolution (tech 2 battlecruiser, think pocket battleship although it).
Most of my skills are in ships.
This game is awesome
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Been a while since I posted here.
Not much happened actually, im now a director of the corp, and about a week away from a covvie. Ill actually start making some money :)
Also, hitting naughty ore thiefs in a 0.4 system, within 100ish km from a station results in the sentry guns shooting you... I found out the hard way :)
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Woohoo! Just broke 100 million ISK for the first time ever!
Time to buy a Raven, thinks I.
Currently working on tech 2 light missiles. Should be done in about eight days. After that it's back to my quest for a Zealot, going by way of an Armageddon. and I need to put a month aside for a Covetor, somewhere.
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100m? Oh that... Broke that ages ago :) Yay for lotterys:p
Oh and to make this post be constructive, id say, wait a little longer. You dont want to have a raven and no monies for insurance, equipment and other goodies. I could be in a domi for like, a month now, but well, just not effective enough yet.
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I haven't bothered to check the site really, but this game sounds a bit like Earth & Beyond... apparently its not bombing out like EA's creation, but I'm wondering how similiar the games are? I tried E&B demo, then started the real thing and discovered I really didn't care for real-time 1 hour+ transportations and what not.
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Already got my Raven. all the modules came out of stuff I already had (four limos and 2 malkuth cruise launchers plus all named shield hardeners, boosters and ECM modules ftw), leaving me with enough left over to insure it.
Admittedly, I now only have 3 million ISK to my name but it feels good to have such a potent engine of death in my personal fleet now. I took it through a level 4 mission and it acquitted itself quite well.
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I haven't bothered to check the site really, but this game sounds a bit like Earth & Beyond... apparently its not bombing out like EA's creation, but I'm wondering how similiar the games are? I tried E&B demo, then started the real thing and discovered I really didn't care for real-time 1 hour+ transportations and what not.
Having never played E&B, I can't really compare, but EVE isn't that slow - the ships basically have two speeds, namely impulse and warp. At impulse speeds, you're typically travelling somewhere between 100 and 600 metres per second (and with the right gear and modules, you can rack up several thousand meters per second), and the distances you have to travel are rarely greater than about 100 Km. For larger (interplanetary) distances, the ships warp, usually at three Astronomical Units per second (that's about 1,440 times the speed of light) but some lighter ones move at six AU/s (2,880 times the speed of light) or even 9 AU/s (4,320 times the speed of light). interstellar travel is via artificial stargates.
The game IS true to stellar scale, but the sheer speed of the ships when warping serves to mitigate the huge distances.
typically, in a fast ship, you can be in the next star system within two minutes at most, and a trip of 20 jumps can take anywhere between 10 minutes and an hour (or longer), depending on the ship you're flying for the journey
the only way to truly understand what EVE's like, though, is to try it out. if you're willing to PM me your email adress, I'm quite happy to sign you up for a 14-day free trial under the "buddy" system.
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nah that's ok.. i actually got around to checking out the site and it looks pretty much exactly like Earth & Beyond kinda feel... although the graphics are definitely breathtaking and awesome... The speed sounds nice, but that wasn't the real big reason why I cancelled E&B so soon, it was just the feel of it and the aspect of the rpg.. and this game I can tell for a fact is the same in that aspect... just different strokes I suppose... I played FFXI for 2.5 years after trying E&B and not really liking it (with a short, enjoyable time in Planetside although with a machine horribly underpowered to play it) and I had to force myself off that addiction.. :) Thanks though!
EDIT: 07/03
So I was thinking/looking for a new game to play.. while I'm not interested in another MMORPG or Eve, anyone know a solo rpg game thats recent that has this kinda graphics? I realize nothing will be identical but those damned graphics are calling to me... just without the hours on end of wasting my social life away (again) to learn a new skill while paying a huge monthly fee :D (like before)
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WHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flying a covvie at last:D:D:D:D:D
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4 hour downtime?! What am I gonna do for four hours?
/me plays with quickfit.
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So I was thinking/looking for a new game to play.. while I'm not interested in another MMORPG or Eve, anyone know a solo rpg game thats recent that has this kinda graphics? I realize nothing will be identical but those damned graphics are calling to me... just without the hours on end of wasting my social life away (again) to learn a new skill while paying a huge monthly fee :D (like before)
Either X3 or Oblivion, I'd say.
oh yeah, my corp's joining an Alliance. sometime in the near future (not exactly sure when) we will be joing Freelancer Alliance.
Prior to that, we need to spend some time mining ice to fuel our POS and capital ships. (two dreads, three carriers, a freighter and a POS, for a corporation with no more than about 25 individual active members. We rule.)
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If x3 is anything like x2 you'll still be wasting your social life away.
And the Freelancer Alliance is a kinda silly name.
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I'd have said it was a pretty good name for a loose alliance of freelance pilots, myself...
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Played Oblivion for a while but I like being an assassin majoring in archery and archery is way too weak in that game to count for anything.
Haven't heard of X3 I'll check that out. When I was asking I was referring to a solo version of Eve Online kinda thing with those graphics. Let me check out the X3 site and thanks for the heads up.
Edit: If you meant Xmen-3 for X3 then no, tried it and wasn't too gripping on me.
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no, not X-Men 3, I mean X3 Reunion (http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/info_en.php), the space-based trade game.
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holy shit score switchblade... that looks to be what i was looking for... didnt read much on page yet doesnt look like game is out yet just announced at E3... shall read more and find out.. either way very very tempting :) thanks mate
edit: yeah so its been out for quite some time... gonna try it out and see if i like it...game looks beautiful... thanks again switch
2nd edit: yeah so after hours of hell with starforce i got the game patched and working.. just have no time to play until a few days from now.. altho it looks very promising.. just hoping my life isnt sucked away even with this game hehe...
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Back on topic: I play EVE!
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Huzzah, another one in the grasp of ze awezome game
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People to play with? Crazy!
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EVE TV IS ONLINE!!!!!
http://www.eve-online.com/evetv/
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Hey guys, someone tell me what I'm meant to be doing, I'm a scientist guy with lots of intelligence and charisma ): I'm not sure if I'm having fun or not.
EDIT: I have a fighter, for ass kickng now.
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just got the free trial. so far i can tell that for alot of my friends, this game would be HELL.
i mean, it does take a bit of transit time between places, etc. but i LOVE that. because my gaming time is always getting interrupted by studying, chores, cleaning, etc.
so i set the destination, hit autopilot, walk away, work on stuff, etc. come back, do the mission or whatever, then warp back. lol.
it's pretty sweet
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Just joined a cool corp, hopefully I'll be able to afford the game when the trial runs out.
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my dream list is almost fully populated
I just need a covetor, an iteron V, a crusader and a Zealot to attain everything I've been working towards since I started playing EVE.
after that point, I'ma focus on maxing out all my existing skills.
EDIT: oh yeah, and my corp is part of the freelancer alliance now.
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In EVE, I kill people with science. I'm living the dream, people.
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Hehe :)
Ive just commisonned a Dominix to be built for me.
Ill finally be able to do some lvl3's. Mining is getting kinda boring, now that Ive gotten into a covvie.
ILL BE WTFPWNING PEOPLE!!!
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I lost my Hawk last night :(
Got swarmed by five enemy interceptors in 3JN9-Q, and the fuckers were using EM missiles, which was my weakest resistance.
On the other hand, I'm pulling in an almost silly amount of money up there, and because the ship was lost in combat with an enemy alliance, it gets replaced for me by the corp.
they got away, though - daring motherfuckers used an insta to get straight past our gate camp, which involved two carriers (some n00b forgot to set up the warp disruption bubble)
still, pretty fun.
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Ladys n Gentleman, I present you the Nautilus!!!
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/Verergoca/Various%20stuff/2006-2.png)
*edit* Crap, cant get the image larger :(
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A covvie? Jesus. I get my Osprey on Thursday. Oh boy! Then I'll work towards the BC, after that I will worry about the strip mining and something to haul some serious amount of goods.
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Uhm, no, its a Dominix.
*still wonders why he cant get that picture larger*
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Baah I just quit the game, maybe I'll start it back up once I move...
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okay, my trial ran out, and im done.
too boring.
transit times between everything - boring.
mining? boring.
fighting? boring.
pvp? couldnt really get into it that early.
:/ goodbye eve, may one day i be older and less ADD and return to you.
im selling all my shit, some okay mining lasers, some blasters, my 2 ships (a maulus and another one), hopping in my velator, buying the most expensive shit i can get, dropping it outside the newb station, and going to get podkilled!!!
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Whee, I got the big guns on my domi! Can run lvl 3 missions at last! wNo more endless boring lvl 2's ! Also, more monies! Whooo!
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:( :( :( :( :(
And it was uninsured. Because I am STUPID STUPID STUPID AUGH
2006.08.14 08:17
Victim: Keldoran Sakhin
Alliance: GoonSwarm
Corp: GoonFleet
Destroyed: Raven
System: 98Q-8O
Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Hazrat Izza
Security: 4.9
Alliance: Band of Brothers
Corp: Black Nova Corp
Ship: Zealot
Weapon: Zealot
Name: The Vince (laid the final blow)
Security: 5.0
Alliance: Band of Brothers
Corp: Evolution
Ship: Raven
Weapon: Wrath Cruise Missile
Name: Xune
Security: -1.3
Alliance: Band of Brothers
Corp: Black Nova Corp
Ship: Taranis
Weapon: Taranis
Name: Serpentis Sentinel / Serpentis Corporation
Name: GhostFox
Security: -0.4
Alliance: Band of Brothers
Corp: Reikoku
Ship: Stiletto
Weapon: Stiletto
Destroyed items:
ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay
ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay
Juggernaut Torpedo, Qty: 2838 (Cargo)
Warrior I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Hammerhead I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)
Co-Processor I
Co-Processor I
Heat Dissipation Field I
Heat Dissipation Field I
Ballistic Deflection Field I
Reactor Control Unit I
Juggernaut Torpedo, Qty: 17
Juggernaut Torpedo
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Aww...
Also, you fly goon?
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Sucks!
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Fuck all y'all Goon bustas I roll FLA style bro! Phreelansaz 4 LYFE homie!
oh, and you should be ashamed of yourself, flying an uninsured Raven.
Having said that - lost two Crows in as many days lately. suckstick.
but - they were both Platinum insured. Winstick.
Payout on a platinum-insured Crow is 2 million. Crows cost 24 million. suckstick.
Uhm, no, its a Dominix.
*still wonders why he cant get that picture larger*
you're hosting on photobucket. Above a certain size limit (believe it's 1.3 Mb), Photobucket automatically scales images down. it doesn't scale them down to 1.3 megs, though, oh no, it stamps them flat into a tiny parody of their former selves.
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Ugh, don't I know it. There goes a hundred and thirty million. :(
And, yep, I'm one of those goonies; I read about the game on the SA forums and figured I'd try it, and got kind of hooked. I've got a general use main and an alt heading for covops-es. And maybe force recons, you know, in six months.
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Carebear mining all the way!
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Curses!
Ive aquired a Brutix BPC, and have been doing some adding up. At the moment I can build them for around 23m. But, with prices of the damn things at 23.75m in ours, id only make 750k profit... NOT ENOUGH FOR THE EFFORT!
DAMNIT...
PE5, here I will come, somewhere in the next month!
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Haven't been playing for ages since at first I had money and no card, now I have a card and no money in my account. Life is evil.
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PE5?
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Production Efficiency lvl 5, reducing the mineral needs for building things.
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Ah, yes. I figure I'll train up the alt (after he has done the freighter) to do the actual refining, especially since he already does the hauling.
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Anyone hear about the huge scam? A guy opened a bank on an ult -- and had a huge folowing, promising high output rates without explanation. Anyways, people started saying it was a scam, some withdrew, so the guy closed off access and pulled out of the bank, about 800 BILLION ISK in raw and in Assets. He is the single most wealthy person in Eve Online, and actually stole thousands of dollars worth of in game material on his scam.
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Uhm, I know about the "great scam" story, which earned someone 300m, which was way lots back in the day (so ive heard).
Its a pretty good read btw, got me in eve :).
But, given that on the forums, i cant find a public outcry for the person's head/genitalia on a stick, I assume you are misinformed. Ive heard this about the Eve Intergalactic Bank, and, as far as I know, that is still up and running, stronger than ever.
In any case, before you give out money for an investment, there is the whole trust issue, combined with a good good plan. I find it hard to feel sorry for people that were tricked.
Also, you cant do such things alone in this game. Just doesnt work. Loners are Losers, so to say.
Anyway, onto important news, I gots me a Mackinaw!
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Vergo: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060828-7605.html
Looks like it happened after all!
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To long, to drunk, will read later
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To long, to drunk, will read later
I'll summerize. Guy creates alt -- guy starts a bank on alt.
Bank promises good payouts for large investments (with no concievable way of doing so)
Bank becomes very popular.
Words spreads around that the bank is a sham.
Some people start pulling out of the bank.
The guy cuts off the rest and takes all the assets for himself before they all pull out netting 790,000,000,000.00 ISK in assets / raw money worth approx. $140,000 US Dollars.
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Ah, ok.
However, isk aint worth shit!
DOWN WITH ISK SELLERS! BOOOH!! LET PEOPLE WORK FOR THEIR ISK!
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yarr baby, yarrrrr. beta player and i've been active again now for about a year. My corp is the reason you check local, the jolly-roger face of impending doom!
God piracy is fun. We just joined up with an alliance that doesnt care about low sec piracy so, win win.
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Until I run into you. Then you'll care.
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:-D Bring it :-D
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Mike, as your boss, I say, no aggression unless he blew up your ship first!
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Aww. :( But muhr would help me!
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I tried EVE, i liked the space combat, and money-mongering aspect, nut I'm not an RPG man.
I think it's all about mental strategy versus physical strategy. In an RPG, your success is all about numbers, figures and other variables, like skill points and levels. The strategy is all in your head.
But I prefer physical strategy, where success is determined in the "real" world. (ie: your gameplay rather than your numbers.) Like in an FPS, it's all about cover and tactics that you can ACTUALLY SEE. Not like RPG's where a massive change has little to no "proof" of it. You can see a guy walking around with a rocket launcher, but you can't see his speed/strength/weapon skill/magic pixie bonus etc.
Sorry about my little rant, but it is what it is.
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I think it's all about mental strategy versus physical strategy.
I would describe that conflict as strategy versus tactics. In one you plan stuff out, prepare for contingencies, allocate resources, etc... and in the other you make the right high-speed short term decisions. So really, they're both "real world gameplay", just one is in advance and the other is not.
It sounds like you'd make a good sergeant, but a terrible general :)
(pardon to any military folks here for my likely misuse of terminology)
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that's about right, yeah. EVE is very much a two-tiered game in combat - with actual fleets entering the fray, it falls to fleet commanders to come up with not only the overarching strategy, but also the on-the-spot tactics (calling primary and secondary targets, mostly), with individual pilots then deciding which modules to activate in which order to cynch it.
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Man you guys make this sound awesome, I want in. This is exactly what I want right now, especially if there are good battle tactics.
I disdain 'army of one' sort of tactics, lone commando who can kill an army. I want fleet battles with big ships and logistics.
Of course, it's not out for mac... God bless blizzard, all of their software has been hybrid for both operating systems since starcraft, meaning your PC WOW discs would work just fine on my mac.
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This is exactly what I want right now
You do realize that it takes at least 8ish months to become a reasonably good BS pilot? That is, if you dont learn for things like mining, science, logistics, gangleading, social skills etc.
Not wanting to burst your bubble, I say, people always need more tacklers.
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Catfish Man, you're totally right. To word my rant differently, it is about fast versus slow strategy. Resources, weapon modification etc. make up the bulk of any good RPG / RTS. An FPS, in contrast, is actually very unmodifiable, because of the speed difference.
In EVE for example, there are miles between you and the enemy. In an FPS (let's say, Half-Life 2) the distance is in feet. EVE gives you the reaction time, the patience and the diligence to carry out your plan. In HL2, you got two seconds before a headcrab starts making sweet sweet love to your eyeballs.
Twitching vs. Cruising. It's as simple as that.
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You mean kilometres. The rest of the world uses a sane measurement system.
Also: you can do some seriously in-your-face fighting; if you like to web/NOS people, fly up their ass, and hammer them from a few hundred metres away. All about your style, and what works for you.
Me, I sit in a ship 50km away and try to pound you with missiles from a distance.
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Blasters at 500m for me.
Gragh I need to buy a time card.
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You mean kilometres. The rest of the world uses a sane measurement system.
Actually, i used imperial measurement because I thought the majority of forum members are American.
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I think most of the forum members have the decency to use metric.
I am back on EVE guys! Woo! Yay!
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I describe all units in terms of c. Damn humans and their silly measurement systems.
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im on ur EVE, flyin ma ship.
I leave for 2 months and everyone in my corp is infinitely better than me and we have a POS.
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Suhweeet! POS'S ftw!
We have one in empire :D Buildin cool stuffs! WHOO!
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I'm still pretty useless. Skills, what are those? Another two weeks till I have most of my advanced learning skills done, then I'll get down to my BC skills again. Hurr. And then get my damn Hulk.
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I feel useless too, I've got about 5 days worth of learning before I might be able to rat in our systems.
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Should have mentioned this earlier, but this week my alliance deployed our first outpost (the FLA Motel, in the 0-2RNZ system)
I'd invite you all to come look, but we run an NBSI policy in our home systems, so you'd likely just get podded.
it's a factory, something we were sorely lacking before. this should be fun.
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Anyone is welcome to join my corp btw, we're an industrial corp but we like pvpers (like me) for extra income and protection. We're based in Arzi atm, you can come visit if you like but please add odei ingame so you can tell me you're coming and I can tell Arzi security you're not to be blasted away :P
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I started playing about 6 weeks ago, and loving it. Part of Orion's Forge (New Eden Conglomerate) and everyone has been really helpful to this noob. Even people outside the corps/alliance.
I am spending WAY too much time in PureBlind right now for my own good I think (just got ended our 3rd consecuative week of having someone declare war on us, had to defend our territory)
I dont know what the part I play in a gang is called, but basically (droneless) I disrupt warp, weapons, sensors and propulsion.
Add me in game or what not if ya want Rook Desparro is the in game name.
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I started playing about 6 weeks ago, and loving it. Part of Orion's Forge (New Eden Conglomerate) and everyone has been really helpful to this noob. Even people outside the corps/alliance.
I am spending WAY too much time in PureBlind right now for my own good I think (just got ended our 3rd consecuative week of having someone declare war on us, had to defend our territory)
I dont know what the part I play in a gang is called, but basically (droneless) I disrupt warp, weapons, sensors and propulsion.
Add me in game or what not if ya want Rook Desparro is the in game name.
you'd be a tackler, mate. Good role, I fill it myself on occasion (i.e: whenever I have an interceptor)
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I spent the last month upping my learning skills, so I'm doing lvl 4s in all of the SOCT ones. Rank 1 skills take about 5d 18h to go from nothing to level five. I'm pretty happy. Gonna fire up PE5 after I do some refining skills, then I'll get back to kitting my Ferry for war.
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Hallo. Ingame I'm Silver Pixie. I'm a miner in the extreme!
Current stats:
Int: 16
Mem: 19
Char: 8
Perc: 11
Will: 11
And, between me and my roommate's like, 6 chars... I have more lvl 5 skills :P
Currently based out of Saila, but will occaisionally go to Sobaseki, Isenairos, Uotila and Juunigaishi.
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Add Odei and talk to me ):
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I'm 21/12/16/21/18 (intelligence/charisma/perception/memory/willpower), running a solid set of +1 implants (woot...)
Soon enough I'll have a set of +3s.
Hanging out in Sinq Liason space, cuz that's where Erik tolded me to. I have to listen to him. He'd hurt me otherwise.
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d'aww.... FLA took out an enemy POS in EC-P8R tonight and I wasn't involved because I was round a friend's house playing Guitar Hero and eating chinese food.
so I basically swapped one awesome thing for another. guess I win either way!
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Well, I got my +3 implant set. Nummy. Takes me just a bit over 5 days to take a rank one skill up to level five. Covetor in a month!
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Y'all should listen to eve-underground. That radio station rocks, to say the least, and no sucky radio edits or uber poppy music that makes you want to gag from the sugary sweetness of it. *cringes*
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I prefer EVE Radio. The original and best. EVE Underground is just a cheap imitation.
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I just listen to my own music. No EVE noises whatsoever.
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Actually, recently, the only sound I have going on in EVE is the effects noises (gun, missiles, so on) and TeamSpeak (I know... I'd prefer Ventrillo as well, but the alliance uses TS)
Plenty of empire wars recently. Couple of days ago, I was part of a group that got our asses handed to us while trying to do the same to the enemy. Lost a caracal, a wolf and a Condor, and got podded twice.
To be fair, it was basically just a case of "hey, load up on whatever ships you left in safe space and let's go find these guys" - so, twelve tech 1 cruisers with loot-drop mods versus three HACs with straight tech-2 gear. It was never going to go our way.... though it does feel like we should at least have managed to take ONE of them down....
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I like TS because of the licensing terms. :)
Most of the folks in the group stick to happy safe space. Some of us plan on hunting pirates in low sec.
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I tried the trial version of EVE a while back, and didn't like it.
Movement was: engage autopilot, and go make a sandwich while the computer flies somewhere for you.
Mining was: engage autopilot to somewhere with asteroids (make sandwich), then click on an asteroid and go read a book while the computer mines things for you, then use the autopilot to fly back.
Combat was: target enemy, click attack, and have a nap while the computers shoot at each other.
As you can see, I didn't really get into it. All I seemed to be doing was watching beautiful graphics as the computer had a good time and I didn't.
If there's more to it than that, please let me know.
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I've done the trial, and yeah. Travelling from one system to another is definitely tedious. Warp, stop, change direction. Repeat.
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Learn to use auto-pilot?
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Haha, you do not want to go for a nap when you fight rats in low security systems.
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Yeah, can't say I'd be doing that. Everything becomes far more dangerous if you move into low-sec space, or do mining with a barge in .5 systems.
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Woo, got podded in my Exequeror, then bought a Vexor.
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I'm still sporting my Ferox, because I cannot even kit that out properly yet.
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New QC forumer, but been in Eve since December last year. Just adding my name to the roster. :-D
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fofofo?
God I can't wait for the rohk.
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Okay, so, revelations is out. all of you need to go log in, undock, and click on the map button right now. I don't care if you've seen it before, or if undocking is really kinda unwise for you at the moment - do it, now.
Don't worry, I'll wait.
There, didn't that feel good? oh, and look, the star map actually bleeds down onto the system level as an accurate starfield. that's OBSCENE.
Now go blow something up.
god, Revelations is soooo good!
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;_; Just lost eve.
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Had never seen or heard of EVE before reading this thread...jus checked out the web site and the game does look really good.
Only bad thing bout it seems to be the monthly charge, seems a hell of alot to be playing jus to carry on playing the game plus you got the inital cost of purchasin the game on top of that :-o
Though again is does look a really good game....if only i wasnt a poor student :-(
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Had never seen or heard of EVE before reading this thread...jus checked out the web site and the game does look really good.
Only bad thing bout it seems to be the monthly charge, seems a hell of alot to be playing jus to carry on playing the game plus you got the inital cost of purchasin the game on top of that :-o
Though again is does look a really good game....if only i wasnt a poor student :-(
After about a month in the game you should be making enough isk to buy timecards 8-)
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This game is awesome. I played the 14 day trial a few months ago, I have two cruisers in my possesion and was only just able to fly them before the trial ran out (Never mind that I couldn't shoot anything, because I had trained no weapons skills). Now that I've finished TAFE I'm going to see about getting a debit account set up at my bank so I can start playing again.
And the monthly fee is incredibly cheap compared to what we have to pay for other games here in Aus.
I LOVE WARPING. Best travel system ever. Never mind it still takes you 500 hours to jump across ten systems, just seeing the ship go zipping past a planet is awesome. And I've heard theres a warp to 0 option now? That'd make jumping through asteroid fields even faster. Me and my friends corp used to go rat hunting in .4 space, which wasn't dangerous at all, but it was hella fun.
...Dammit, now I really want to play again.
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Just signed up for another trial (i haven't played in months, i remember nothing). 2 hours in, i find a mining corp hiring newbies, i fit right in. I LOVE EVE!!!!!!!!
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I haven't actually fired up the game in probably a month. I just do random skill clicks. Until my current learning regimen is complete, I'm not gonna bother. Need to upgrade skills before I go back to owning missions.
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http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/video/2/RevelationsTrailer.wmv
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After about a month in the game you should be making enough isk to buy timecards 8-)
What are the time card exactly? you can earn credits in the game to continue play instead of purchasing them?
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What is it about MMO's? I play the trial, never make up my mind, and by the time it's over, some other gaming event (HL2:EP 1, Wii, Garry's Mod) takes me over and forces me to ditch the MMO and continue playing the usual stuff.
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I loved my 5 months in eve... but now... meh..
what made it so great was my corp, we had some killer trade runs going on.. doing deadspaces, building ships and gear... getting imba at our own pace..
till a stupidly huge corp turns up, declares war on us for no reason, destroys everything -then- demands money.. my corpmates didnt tell me we were at war when i undocked from our station in .8 space in my brandnew megathron... only to see it blown to pieces..
So there I am, several million skill points invested... my best ships trashed, cash pretty much drained.. so meh.. I'll stick with raiding in Warcraft for now.
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Downloading the client now, got my free trail code, but i will play it no more than the trail allows.
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I loved my 5 months in eve... but now... meh..
what made it so great was my corp, we had some killer trade runs going on.. doing deadspaces, building ships and gear... getting imba at our own pace..
till a stupidly huge corp turns up, declares war on us for no reason, destroys everything -then- demands money.. my corpmates didnt tell me we were at war when i undocked from our station in .8 space in my brand new megathron... only to see it blown to pieces..
So there I am, several million skill points invested... my best ships trashed, cash pretty much drained.. so meh.. I'll stick with raiding in Warcraft for now.
To be fair mate, that's what corporation mail is there for - the war announcement is displayed for everyone to see.
I'm now a Fleet Commander for the Freelancer Alliance. We have two empire wars going on right now, with OMEN corp and E X I L E, but it's not hard to avoid being caught if you know what you're doing.
a few pointers for survival
1: warp core stabilizers make you FAR less susceptible to warp jamming, at the expense of totally nerfing your sensors. For running errands in empire, I tend to use an interceptor with one of those fitted and a couple of nanofibre mods - you align and warp almost impossible fast anyway, and even if they do lock you, they can't scramble you.
2: they can't get you if you dock. if you undock and see unfriendly war-dec type people around, just wait thirty seconds and dock again. don't move, don't fire a shot, just sit calmly in front of the station and keep trying to dock. you're invulnerable after undocking until you actually do anything. if you deny them kills, they'll just get bored and go find somebody else
3: if you have to go somewhere, do it as a team. moving stuff in a hauler or freighter? escort it with four battleships.
4: Smack talk in local is the weapon of the gods. Use it sparingly but to devastating effect.
5: insurance is your friend. that said, it's only worth it on battlecruisers, battleships, and capital ships. if that 'Thron had had platinum grade insurance, you could have just purchased a new one.
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I installed XP via Bootcamp on the iMac and downloaded this. I'm in. I just created a character named Aurostion.
Of course, I wasn't thinking, but naming a female character a name that partly means "son of" probably was an odd choice.
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I liked EVE, but the monthly cost was too much for me. good game, but not worth it for someone with as little money as me :/
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Still digging it after quite a few months. Moving to 00 soon, oh yes. Domi + 6 miner 2 == lots o money.
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4: Smack talk in local is the weapon of the gods. Use it sparingly but to devastating effect.
5: insurance is your friend. that said, it's only worth it on battlecruisers, battleships, and capital ships. if that 'Thron had had platinum grade insurance, you could have just purchased a new one.
4. Never do this, it just makes you look like a idiot, and while you're typing away smack in local, the other guys is typing away in corp for backup
5. Insurance is good when your corp produces everything under market value and you make money back when you lose a ship
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I just yell at people on TS to come and save me. I want to put together an alliance with the specific intention of rolling the Knights of Chaos.