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Title: iPod Nano
Post by: thew on 07 Sep 2005, 13:36
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/

Very cool, can't wait to see one in person. But I don't know why they dropped the iPod Mini line. It was their best seller and I'm sure the colors played a big part in that. Couldn't this have simply been a next generation Mini? Don't see the reasoning for the new name/no colors.

Boo-urns to the phone.

And I'd wish they'd integrate album art better into iTunes. There's a freeware called Clutter (http://www.sprote.com/clutter/) that has a clever interface. But no, we've reached iTunes 5 now and there's still not much point to importing album art.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: CarbonatedWeasel on 07 Sep 2005, 18:14
woah, thats like tiny. thats... thats impossible!  Holy crap I want one
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: name not needed on 07 Sep 2005, 19:34
I think I'd be more comfortable with an mp3 player I can't break in half with my hands.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: SeanBateman on 07 Sep 2005, 19:49
It is dumb in one sense, the mini's were dumb, these are dumber sense. But the black ones look sleek as all hell
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: normz on 07 Sep 2005, 19:56
oh man i soooo want (damn my poverty) *sigh* what i really need is an ipod buying sugar daddy
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Lug on 07 Sep 2005, 23:28
Damn that's thin!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 08 Sep 2005, 00:01
4gb flash drives like WHAT!!?

but it seems like the scrollwheel would be a bit finicky at that size.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 08 Sep 2005, 00:52
Oooh, I just bought my 3d full iPod in three months (lost one, gave one to little brother for b-day) so I cannot justify this.  But I really want it so bad.  Maybe it and my Razr could get jiggy with it and have extremely cool looking mp3/phone kids.

*ahem*

Quote from: normz
what i really need is an ipod buying sugar daddy


I'd totally volunteer, I really would, but your location either means you're in a maximum security prison or on the other side of the world, and either way it could never work.  No such thing as long-distance arm-candy :(  Sorry.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: SeanBateman on 08 Sep 2005, 01:15
Moiche, think those kids would look something like This? (http://www.apple.com/itunes/mobile/)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: TheLoweringTide on 08 Sep 2005, 02:00
Quote from: SeanBateman
Moiche, think those kids would look something like This? (http://www.apple.com/itunes/mobile/)
Only if they had birth defects.  Not as cool looking as the RAZR (which isn't all that cool looking to begin with) and a measly 512MB of storage is hardly worthy of iPod comparisons.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: GebStar on 08 Sep 2005, 04:40
I bought my original FAT 15GB iPod when it first came out and im perfectly happy with it. I Loooooove that it's big, i looooooooove that the only thing it does is play music, i looooooooove that it doesn't have that horrendous looking click wheel and i looooooove the feeling i get, knowing that i bought it first with my own hard earned cash.

Bah to these new ones i say. Bah Meh and see you tomorrow.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 08 Sep 2005, 05:31
Quote from: TheLoweringTide
Only if they had birth defects.  Not as cool looking as the RAZR (which isn't all that cool looking to begin with) and a measly 512MB of storage is hardly worthy of iPod comparisons.


I swear I was going to write "only if the children turn out to be retarded" and then I read the next comment.  Damn you TheLoweringTide.  Damn you for being right.

Honestly -- 100 songs on the "ROKR"?  100 songs?! SeanBateman  In my home!  In my bedroom where my wife sleeps! Where my children come and play with their toys! In my home!

That's not right.  That's not fair.  Picking 100 songs would be like Sophie's Choice, but 100 times.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: SpacemanSpiff on 08 Sep 2005, 07:36
Eh, I don't know. It's just another flash-based player, they're all tiny. Why is everyone so excited about this?
Also, let's face it, 4GB are simply not enough.

From what I gathered, they dropped the iPod Mini line because it had a harddisk, which is more expensive and less robust. Also, they got the flash memory for an extremely low price thanks to a contract with Samsung (who happens to be the world's biggest flash memory manufacturer) and I bet for the price, Samsung made sure they weren't alowed to buy any similar products that might compete with the Samsung flash.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: thew on 08 Sep 2005, 10:02
I understand why they switched from hard disk to flash, I was wondering why they dropped the name and colors of their most popular iPod. "Nano" is cold, slick and technonerdy while "Mini" is playful, simple and relates to other products in the mac lineup. I don't know, it feels like they're stretching it brand-name-wise, we've had: iPod, iPod U2 Special Edition, iPod Photo, iPod Mini, iPod Shuffle and now the iPod Nano. Jobs saved the company by simplifying and consolidating their products, but now he might be losing sight of that.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Micolithe on 08 Sep 2005, 10:18
I don't see the point in this new iPod. The original wasn't exactly huge. However, the ratio of cost to capacity makes it not worth it. Just buy a 20 gig iPod or Zen Touch and be done with it. Sure, it looks cool, but 2 or 4 gigs? No, that's not gonna cut it.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Jarne on 08 Sep 2005, 12:44
I don't want to spend 200 dollars on something the cat can swallow.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Valrus on 08 Sep 2005, 16:23
I'm holding out for the iPod femto.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Sythe on 08 Sep 2005, 16:31
The 4th gen regular Ipod can play Doom at 3fps. Why buy that little gizmo, when you can play Doom, people?!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Spike on 08 Sep 2005, 20:32
Quote from: GebStar
I bought my original FAT 15GB iPod when it first came out and im perfectly happy with it. I Loooooove that it's big, i looooooooove that the only thing it does is play music, i looooooooove that it doesn't have that horrendous looking click wheel and i looooooove the feeling i get, knowing that i bought it first with my own hard earned cash.

Bah to these new ones i say. Bah Meh and see you tomorrow.


I'm with you on that.  I hate the click wheels.  Whenever I look at a friends ipod I have no idea how to operate it because I'm so used to operating the touch wheel.  Makes me feel pretty stupid at times.

Edit:  I also learned a long time ago that when activated, the backlight feature lights up my whole room.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: tails on 09 Sep 2005, 00:16
i have a G3 40 gb ipod so i dont want this at all! why'd they go to the ipod style, it'll be too easy to scratch and dent (maybe that is part of their plan?). the mini had the nice steel casing and recessed screen. in my eyes, they took a step back design-wise.

also, the headphones plug into the bottom now! does anyone know if they still have a port on the top for other headphones, or is this another apple money-squeezing plot?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: IronOxide on 09 Sep 2005, 12:19
I like it, and would choose it over my shuffle, but I want a full size iPod for mah music!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Threatis on 10 Sep 2005, 04:50
i put in my order for a nano today!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 10 Sep 2005, 07:08
This looks absolutely positively worthless. Why would Apple come out with another shitty product? If you look at the tech specs (the hardcore tech specs) and compare it to my Creative Zen Micro there is no comparison. And the Micro was only 177. Hmm...Correct me if I'm wrong but I think for the 200-some dollars the Nano is selling for? Hm. Worthless.


Anyways, don't get me started on the cell-phone IPod or whatever.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Sep 2005, 07:41
Ipod? More liek gaypod, amirite?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 10 Sep 2005, 07:51
Where is my god now?


He's the post above this one. KharBevNor is my new Jesus.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Sep 2005, 08:01
<3

NN2S refs aside, the iPod is a fashion accessory, nothing more. The concentration of people in this thread over the looks of the thing (as opposed to, say, reliability, durability, ergonomics or sound quality) is pretty damning proof. People buy iPods just because they are pink or sleek or small. And on that point, why on earth do you have to make it smaller? Is their a new fashion for impractically small pockets that makes it impossible to put a normal sized mp3 player in one? Jeez people. Making it smaller just makes the screen and controls fiddly and impractical.

Just about the only thing iPod could do to get me to buy one would be to put an auto-scanning DAB radio inside it. Even then I'd probably wait for Sony's one.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 10 Sep 2005, 08:56
Khar, some of us got to go around in suit slacks all day, and it would be nice to have a 1000 song mp3 player without the inevitable "is that an mp3 player in your pants or are you just happy to see me?"

Hence the nano -- really fucking thin and less likely to cause a bulge.  Also non-skippable.

As for these mp3 players being a fashion accessory -- did you just figure this out right now?  'Cuz its not really an epiphany.  Yes -- something you carry around with you every day should look really sleek -- even at the expense of functionality.  That's not sacriligious -- it's aesthetic.

Edit: Fuck the radio.  Repeat after me: fuck the radio .  If I wanted to listen to the fucking radio, then I wouldn't have spent all that time & money to assemble a music collection that would make a grown man weep.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Sep 2005, 10:39
a: I like BBC 4 and BBC 7. I like OneWord. Radio /= Music. I want to be able to listen to comedy, documentaries and most importantly the fucking news on the move. Ok?

Point b: have you not discovered the belt holster/clip for your mp3 player? Do iPods even come with one, or do you have to dance around like a fool holding it all the time?

(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/audio/Creative/nomad_jb_zenxtra40/tn_zenxtra40_holster.jpg)

Finally, my main point is not that an MP3 player should be some sort of electromechanical hair-shirt (I can't remember ever seeing an ugly mp3 player) but that choosing an mp3 player that is expensive, finicky, prone to damage and has poorer sound quality and functionality than it's rivals, simply because it looks better, or worse, simply because it's an iPod and iPods are like, the coolest thing ever to upload your podcasts too, is frankly retarded. It's like buying a flashy looking car with crap handling, ergonomics, and fuel economy, or a swish looking computer with a crap processor and RAM and a load of pre-installed software. Don't get me started on itunes either.

Also, anyone who bought the iPod shuffle succintly admits they don't really like music, they just want a cheap iPod.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 10 Sep 2005, 22:03
Quote from: KharBevNor
Point b: have you not discovered the belt holster/clip for your mp3 player? Do iPods even come with one, or do you have to dance around like a fool holding it all the time?


You got your blackberry hanging from your belt.  You got your cardkey/magkey hanging from your belt.  The last thing you want is another fucking thing hanging from your belt.  The mechanics of something being in your pocket without looking like you stuffed a fucking poodle into your pants is a wonderful thing.  Just trust me on this one.

Quote from: KharBevNor
Also, anyone who bought the iPod shuffle succintly admits they don't really like music, they just want a cheap iPod.


That's complete bullshit. I have a 60gb ipod and an ipod shuffle.  Why?  Because I run long distance, and the shuffle is tiny, imperceptible, and synchs off of iTunes.  

The lesson here is that not everyone gives a crap about practically imperceptible technical differences in accessories.  iPods are popular because they are great looking devices -- far better looking than any other mp3 player on the market.  But they have a hard drive.  This is a problem because hard drives are (a) fragile and (b) skip.  So an iPod without a harddrive (ie. the one discussed in this thread) is a great idea.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 10 Sep 2005, 22:19
Thou shalt not argue with Tedd's god, in fear of being smoteneth. Or some such bullshit.

Anyways, I like the radio. My Zen Micro is a fine size- 1200 songs, you can get more info at the creative site. I think you can figure that out on your own. I like Q104. I like JACKFM. I like news channels.

And why the fuck did you buy a 60gb Ipod? Do you know that many songs? Do you know someone who knows that many songs? I think not. I hope your waste of at least two hundred dollars makes you feel good inside. What matters here is the fact that you're wasting money on something that has more space than you need. Why not do a little marketing research? I'm sure you've done so, right? Absolutely. So, assuming you've done some research, why DID you buy the Ipod when there are cheaper, better things out there?

Hm. Food for the brain.
Title: Its Ok
Post by: Leonsantos on 10 Sep 2005, 22:48
But The Creative* Cubes Are A Better Deal
Not Sure if Its Creative*
1gb for $100
the nanos are 2gb for $300
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 10 Sep 2005, 23:28
Never heard of Creative CUBE. I'll check out.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Rizzo on 10 Sep 2005, 23:51
Screw iPods...
I'm hanging out for Blu-ray discmen. A Blu-ray disc can hold 54 gig therefore I could hold both my harddrives on two discs and have multiple back-up copies in case of damage, theft or other.
Heck, even a DVD discman would be good.
I would honestly need a 60GB iPod to hold all my music but realistically there's no way I could listen to all of it.
And really, what is the point of a colour screen? Photos just eat into my music storage space. I would buy an iRiver but they have crappy service and are as prone to dying as iPods...
Yeah.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Kai on 11 Sep 2005, 07:34
My Zen is better than you and your trendy ipods. FOR THE WIN
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: IronOxide on 11 Sep 2005, 07:57
I don't like the sound quality on the zens. It just sounds BAD.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Sythe on 11 Sep 2005, 09:33
Again, 4th gen Ipods can play DOOM at 3fps. What the hell are all of you waiting for? Its just like DOOM, except for slightly heavier chop!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 11 Sep 2005, 10:20
?

I think the sound quality is pretty decent, why do you say that? Listening to mine right now it's clear as a bell. Maybe it's your headphones?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Kai on 11 Sep 2005, 14:40
What the fuck? My sound quality is really good. I think you just suck and failed. Stop failing. Failure.



But seriously; You failed.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 11 Sep 2005, 18:59
WOW. New sig.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nickyandthefuture on 11 Sep 2005, 19:40
Quote from: KharBevNor
have you not discovered the belt holster/clip for your mp3 player? Do iPods even come with one, or do you have to dance around like a fool holding it all the time?

My iPod came with a belt clip, but I don't think the newer ones do.  I believe that this is because they have discovered that belt clips are awful.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Kai on 11 Sep 2005, 19:40
QUOTATIONS FTW!



Awesome.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Mnementh on 11 Sep 2005, 21:17
Play nice.

*waves mod stick menacingly*

(also, I agree with a lot of what Moiche said upthread.)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Inlander on 11 Sep 2005, 23:38
Pfft, iPods.  Walking around in your own little musical world is the quickest way to get run over by a car.  If I'm out and about I like to listen to what's going on around me; if I'm on public transport and I need entertainment I eavesdrop on the conversation behind me.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 12 Sep 2005, 01:12
Quote from: Tedd
And why the fuck did you buy a 60gb Ipod? Do you know that many songs? Do you know someone who knows that many songs? I think not.


Heh.  I have an ample classical music collection that I like to rip at a higher bitrate.  60gb fills up fast.  I imagine that most people would make use of it by using a lossless format, or simply using it as a portable harddrive.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Micolithe on 12 Sep 2005, 05:36
I'd love a 60 gig ipod. I plan on hitting 60 gigs of MP3s before the year is out
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 08:39
That's like saying "I plan on murdering 40k people before the day is out." Are you a terrorist? Are you? Huh? Huh?

I should work for the FBI. Oh yeah.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Mnementh on 12 Sep 2005, 08:56
Quote from: Moiche
Quote from: Tedd
And why the fuck did you buy a 60gb Ipod? Do you know that many songs? Do you know someone who knows that many songs? I think not.


Heh.  I have an ample classical music collection that I like to rip at a higher bitrate.  60gb fills up fast.  I imagine that most people would make use of it by using a lossless format, or simply using it as a portable harddrive.


I know several people with music collections ranging in the several hundred gig area. 60 Gb is nothing.

Tedd, stop being an ass, people will take you more seriously if you address people nicely and aren't condescending.

Plus, you're pissing me off and making it more likely that I wil lock this thread.  Do I make myself clear?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: RedLeather on 12 Sep 2005, 09:05
It's odd, looking at the Ipod line, i'm struck by a thought.

If you walked into the design bearu of Apple....would you find A) Mp3 Player designers

or

B) Fashion Designers who know little about the storage needs of the individual person?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 12 Sep 2005, 09:13
My girlfriend just got on iPod Mini.  She decided on a pink one.  *sigh*

She has such a reflexive hatred of Apple products that it took her two days to work up the nerve to open the box.  Then she plugged it into her iBook (it took 3 days before she was "ready" for me to help her setup that) and the music uploaded automatically.  Convert!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jeph on 12 Sep 2005, 09:19
Mine's getting here tomorrow.

Arguing over consumer electronics just makes you look like an idiot.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 10:37
No, running around in a bear suit screaming sub-90s comedy quotes makes you look like an idiot. Arguing over consumer electronics makes Jesus cry. :)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jeph on 12 Sep 2005, 11:35
Don't make me use my 3g iPod as a cudgel.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 12:54
If a hard surface such as my head broke under something made by Apple, I would have to cut off my dude-bits and carry them around in a pink fanny pack.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Mnementh on 12 Sep 2005, 13:54
I would like to point you to this then (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3).  That little sucker can survive being run over by a car, twice.

Can you?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 15:31
Suprisingly, yes. I can.



Okay, maybe not twice. But my aunt hit me with her car once and I'm still posting.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: thehoopiestfrood on 12 Sep 2005, 16:03
Quote from: Mnementh
I would like to point you to this then (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3).  That little sucker can survive being run over by a car, twice.


That seems slightly like a waste. I'd have had it!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: dinosrawr on 12 Sep 2005, 16:35
It seems like a thin iPod Nano would be able to survive being run over by a car instead of say, a 60gb iPod. I dunno if that is true, maybe i am using some twisted logic here.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 12 Sep 2005, 17:33
slightly twisted, maybe: i'm guessing a flash EEPROM chip with no moving parts could take much less damage than a hard drive with it's platters and needles and so on.

a friend of mine got one the other day (the black ones come with white earbuds! wtf?). it's really, really small. photos don't do it justice -- if you want to see how small one is, go out and buy one or drop into an apple store or something. so in conclusion: so. small.

biggest problem i can think of is people putting these suckers through the wash with their jeans.

and to all the ipod haters: yes it's sleek, shiny, and probably a little overpriced, but you get the full force of apple's hardware+software engineers and industrial design department in there. the controls are simple but intuitive, the interface is really well thought out, and the whole thing is pretty beautiful + functional (and on top of all that, it can run linux :P ). i don't care how many extra functions your creative whatsajigger has on it, if it's got tiny buttons and confusing menus i don't want to touch it with a ten foot pole.

(and was anyone else a bit confused when sony chose the SAME DAY AS APPLE to launch their new player? way to make sure you get absolutely no media attention, guys. except for all those stories saying how stupid you were to launch a product on the same day as apple.)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: est on 12 Sep 2005, 19:05
Quote from: Tedd
But my aunt hit me with her car once and I'm still posting.


much to our chagrin.

if you actually compare the prices instead of listening to anti-iPod hyperbole then you'll find that the iPod is quite competitively-priced.  at least this is correct as of a couple weeks ago, in Australia.  i was helping a friend shop around for something other than an iPod, because i was starting to buy into the anti-iPod hype.  he is a cynical bastard, and he had an answer for everything that i threw at him.

over here at least, iPods are on a par with the other players, look sexy, have a build quality that i know i can trust, and are exceptionally easy to use.

like everything else in the world it pretty much comes down to your own personal preference as to what kind of player you want.  calling someone an idiot for having an opinion is pretty dumb!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 12 Sep 2005, 19:32
I piss on Apple!  Piss on it with the flaming gasoline that comes out of my penis!  Nothing new here, just another flash player with a premium price, and a wad of trend to it.  Other companies have been making them for a long time.  I bought my Rio Carbon (5GB flash) a long while back, and have been loving it ever since.  I cried when the news broke that they were getting out of the business.  Cried like a little baby.

Next step: that laptop with 1TB of flash-based HD.  Oh yes.  I'll make that my portable-everything.

And to the person on page one who said that they have a blackberry on their belt: if I met you, I'd have to hurt you.  What kind of smelly sysadmin type are you?  Or are you the sleazy marketing type?  Seriously.  Get a satchel and put it in there.  :p

It's a tough time.  I want my all-in-one convergence BB: 10GB MP3 player, 5MP camera, EDGE wireless phone/e-mail client, GPS receiver, etc.  I also want it to be in a package that is small enough to fit into my hand.   Technically could be done within the next two years, except that BB is primarily business-oriented, and thus probably won't put in the camera any time soon.  Though when the new BB comes out in October, I'll be sure to put my grubby paws on one.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: est on 12 Sep 2005, 19:38
i too share that convergence dream.  i really couldn't care less if i look silly to most, holding my PDA up to my ear to answer the phone.  people, i have a fucking PDA/phone/mp3 player/camera/what-have-you.  seriously, c'mon.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Mnementh on 12 Sep 2005, 19:52
Samsung is well on the way to making all of our flash-memory based wetdreams come true (http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050912_000100.html).
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 12 Sep 2005, 20:00
Yeah, I read the flash news.

But seriously, this is what you want (http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html).
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 20:22
Dub ha wa whaaaaaat? 1TB of RAM holy shit holy shit holy shit. must have. i'm going to sleep to dream about this thing tonight (right now).
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 12 Sep 2005, 20:49
trouble with those camera-phone-pda-mp3-radio-email-pager-dongwalker things, is when it breaks, you're out a camera, phone, pda, mp3 player, radio, email thing, pager, and dong walker.

(full disclosure: i have a slight gadget fetish. and a slight backpack fetish. so  i'm not really short of carrying space).

ps. belt clips are for wankerrrrrrrrs
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Mnementh on 12 Sep 2005, 21:06
I heard about that notebook on ./, but it was so filled with jargon and buzzwords that I'm going to take it with a large grain of salt until it's been shown not to be snakeoil.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 12 Sep 2005, 21:09
When I read about it, the first thing that came to mind was... Phantom.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 22:41
Wehn i read about it, my first thoughts were what I posted.


Now when I read about it, my thoughts are..."Why the hell can't I sleep? Is my room lighting off? Is the matress bad? Is my sleep schedule in order? Does God hate me?"
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: est on 12 Sep 2005, 22:48
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/est_xplosif/System1TB.jpg)

take a look at this picture and tell me why i think it's a fake.

edit: ok, i didn't mean to make that sound so snooty.  unless i am mistaken (which i am pretty sure i am not) it's running Windows XP Professional sp2, a 32-bit OS.   it's made for the IA-32 architecture, which can only address up to 4gb ram.

unless they have some kind of specially-made version of windows, i'm willing to say that at best it's a marketing mock-up, and at worst it's a hoax.

yeah baby!  solar chip! : http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar%20memory.WMV
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 12 Sep 2005, 23:30
The thought crossed my mind as well. Although I'm no hardware guy so I can't comment.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: joshuasaurus on 12 Sep 2005, 23:38
my 4-gig black nano and grey armband should arrive tomorrow at noon, i'm fairly hotted out about the idea. as for my other ipods, their enthusiasm at playing second (third? fourth?) fiddle is still to be seen.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: normz on 12 Sep 2005, 23:53
*sishs* why do you people have up to 4 ipods when i still dont own 1 ..... even my discman finally died the other day! If it wasnt for my laptop i would die from lack of music *hugs laptop* i love  you my little toshy oh yes i do ..... ahhhh my time will come when i will either earn money or get an ipod buying sugar daddy altho the later is probably more likely lol
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: dinosrawr on 12 Sep 2005, 23:55
::kicks laptop::
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: normz on 13 Sep 2005, 05:27
pffht you think a mere kick can kill a toshiba satellite .... man they make em tough, my poor laptop gets chucked in my backpack or handbag without any protection(who needs proper laptop bags) and gets smacked around by other miscellanous textbooks and electrical gadgets (cellphone, digital camera, voice recorder, discman, various flash drives and possible video camera) .... ive also dropped it numerous times and even had my mate sit on it and its still going and you think you can crush it with a mere kick ..... how wrong you are MWAHAHAHAH (plus that was a totally randomly bitchy thing to say)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: SpacemanSpiff on 13 Sep 2005, 06:04
Quote from: est
edit: ok, i didn't mean to make that sound so snooty.  unless i am mistaken (which i am pretty sure i am not) it's running Windows XP Professional sp2, a 32-bit OS.   it's made for the IA-32 architecture, which can only address up to 4gb ram.

Well, theoretically, even the 32bit version could recognize more than 4gb of RAM, it just couldn't adress it.
I still think it's fake.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 13 Sep 2005, 07:20
Quote from: nihilist
And to the person on page one who said that they have a blackberry on their belt: if I met you, I'd have to hurt you.  What kind of smelly sysadmin type are you?  Or are you the sleazy marketing type?  Seriously.  Get a satchel and put it in there.

You certainly are a ball of confused durm and strang.  You'll note he mentioned that as a response to one of your fellow anti-iPodders suggesting that belt-clips are an advantage of other players over iPods.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 13 Sep 2005, 07:36
Quote from: nihilist
And to the person on page one who said that they have a blackberry on their belt: if I met you, I'd have to try to hurt you.  What kind of smelly sysadmin type are you?  Or are you the sleazy marketing type?  Seriously.  Get a satchel and put it in there.  :p


Fixed that for you.

I'm an attorney, actually.  Carrying a satchel around the office would be . . . impractical.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 13 Sep 2005, 11:02
If you took offense at what I said, please recognize that I wasn't serious.  If you want to dangle two, three, or ten things from your belt, please feel free to do so.  I'm sure that the women around you will swoon.

As to the screenshot of WinXP running on that PC...  I'm not sure, I know that there is XP 64, though I don't know if it shows up as the same thing.  Never mind that, they don't say much about the architecture of the chips, so cannot tell if they are running 32-bit mode, 64-bit mode, or emulating them.  They claim to have a booth at CES in January, so it'll be interesting to find out.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: LiterSize on 13 Sep 2005, 11:29
Dear lord, all this talk about clipping stuff to your belt.... I've seen something being sold in boutiques lately called the "Urban Utility Belt" and it has 3 zipper pockets... cell phone, mp3, and...wallet i think.  I'd think they'd be marketing it for men too but the inner lining's all pink and lavender....



Seriously.  I have an iPod and I do enjoy it.  One of the few gadgets I've bought that I use on a regular basis.  I have my reservations on how long the battery's going to last for (supposed to be 3 years rechargeable) but by then I expect I can afford a new one...

But c'mon, Ipod mini, nano, shuffle, soon-to-be video, photo it's like I'm watching Pokemon sometimes.  

*goes to dance his silhouette dance*
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 13 Sep 2005, 11:37
Quote from: LiterSize
But c'mon, Ipod mini, nano, shuffle, soon-to-be video, photo it's like I'm watching Pokemon sometimes.


iPod Gold, iPod Blue, iPod Gumbo, iPod Burger, iPod Goes Hawaiian...
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: thew on 13 Sep 2005, 11:55
Quote from: LiterSize
"Urban Utility Belt"


This reminds me of something I saw this summer: Saddlebags. I can't find them online, but I've seen them around LA and in stylish storefronts. It's like a chic fanny pack for women, a hiphugger belt with two slim bags that sit on both hips. I've seen them used by women walking dogs for some reason. Anyway, my friends and I were just like "there's no way this will catch on...right?"
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: thehoopiestfrood on 13 Sep 2005, 14:58
Is it wrong that I'd be willing to wear a utility belt if it looked like this (http://hollywoodcostumesandparty.com/justiceleague/batutilitybelt.jpg) but obviously for adult type stuff? ;)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: LiterSize on 13 Sep 2005, 15:10
You wouldn't be alone, hoopy.  I wanted to get the utility belt that comes with the batman costume, (costume and all!) but my gf pulled me away before I crossed the threshold.  I kind of thank her for that, since the thing would barely wrap around my thigh.


I'm American, but the usage of  "fanny pack" is making me snicker uncontrollably.

*snicker!*


CRAP on-topiccakes!

I got a belt clip with the iPod case I bought, but rarely ever use it, electing to keep my iPod in my bag.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 13 Sep 2005, 16:22
Ah, the plight of the urban cowboy.  No horse, but you have to carry the following things:

--house keys
--mp3 player
--blackberry
--cell phone
--work magkey/cardkey
--wallet

Without resorting to a manpurse/satchel, how can these things be arranged on your person without you looking like an idiot?

Difficulty no. 1:Only Mp3 player, blackberry, cell phone, and work magkey can be worn on belt.  

Difficulty no. 2:Suit slacks.  Only two front pockets and one back pocket can be used.  Only wallet can be placed in back pocket.

Difficulty no. 3:Keys cannot be placed in same pocket as mp3 player or cell phone.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 13 Sep 2005, 16:40
a) My BlackBerry is my cell phone.

No b), sadly.

My keychain is rammed.  It even has a bloody RSA keyfob on it.  *sighs*  I cannot dream of putting it into my pockets; gotta jam it in a satchel of some sort.  Wankers.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: happybirthdaygelatin on 13 Sep 2005, 16:55
The manpurse is where it's at.  I am amused that I still tote my discman and cd's all around even after purchasing a shuffle.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Johnny C on 13 Sep 2005, 17:24
Yeah, I have a big murse too. But it's badass. I'm going to find patches from bands I enjoy and redecorate it.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 13 Sep 2005, 17:28
I carry a laptop to work, so that means I have a bag to tote everything in.  Once I'm at work I have a belt-clip for my cell, and I carry the master key in my pocket, and I leave everything else at my desk.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 13 Sep 2005, 19:31
I do pretty much the same thing with my briefcase.  But every so often I'm heading out from work to a move or show & feel the need to trek with all the stuff on my person.  These evening usually end with me walking home at 3:00am thinking to myself: "Holy shit, I've got $1.5k in electronics strapped to my person".

Also: there is no excuse for RSA keyfobs to be as large as they are.  They should (and hopefully will) be the size and width of a credit card or smaller.  Luckily, with the blackberry, there's no need for me to carry one.  With identity theft growing by leaps and bounds, it's just a matter of time before everybody is walking around with a password generator attached to their person -- and hopefully by then someone competent in industrial design will have produced a keyfob that isn't (relatively) huge.  (Of course I'm sure it exists already -- I guess I just wish my shop was using it).

Finally:  Jeez, the more i read about the iPod Nano, the more I want one.  Oooh, and a set of Etymotic ER6i headphones.  Next month. . . .
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 13 Sep 2005, 19:47
The keyfob isn't too large; about the size of a small pack of wooden matches.  Figure it is about 5cm long, 2cm wide, .5cm deep.  But attached to a keyring it is still a large piece of plastic crap.
Title: MP3 Cubists
Post by: blooflame on 15 Sep 2005, 21:10
The cube is not from Creative.. it's from Mobiblu as seen in a Gizmodo article,
it's available at WalMart:

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/mobiblu-dah1500i-now-at-walmart-115207.php)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Merkava on 16 Sep 2005, 13:24
Wait...

Creative has bad sound quality?

Daaaaayum.

My Zen Micro kicks arse in the sound department. I wish there was some way to make sure the foamy things on the headphones wouldn't come off. I've given up and gotten a pair of Sony wrap-around ("street-style") headphones.

Oh, and 5 gigs is more than enough for me. My NOMAD was 40 Gigs and my entire collection only took up, like, 4 Gigs. XP
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Eldirial on 16 Sep 2005, 13:54
I find having 2 mp3 players is nice, fer me.  I have a bigger one (Currently a 15 gig ipod) That holds allmost all of my collection, and I was just handed a 2 gig nano by my school (Yeah for winning raffles) , so that carries the songs I want to listen to on an everyday basis- the 15 gig is for roadtrips and friends dorms/houses.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: happybirthdaygelatin on 16 Sep 2005, 14:41
Gah, I can't stand any of the ear bud style headphones.  They feel like my ears are being violated.  I'll probably end up getting the Nano eventually, though I figure I might invest torward the Xbox 360 first.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Eldirial on 16 Sep 2005, 14:47
Earbuds- I keep a pair in my bag, for when I forger a pair of good headphones.  I actually had a really nice pair of sony earbuds, great sound, comfortable, and they broke within two months. Good job sony.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 16 Sep 2005, 14:47
I physically can't wear earbuds.  For my iPod on the move, I wear Sony MDRJ10s, which have a hook that fits behind the ear.  At home, I listen on a pair of high-end Grados.  Grados are great for discovering new notes in a subtle song.

Still looking forward to getting a pair of Etymotics next month though.  Anyone around here have good/bad experiences with inner-ear earphones?
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: nihilist on 16 Sep 2005, 15:38
I've got the earbuds that came with my Rio Carbon, otherwise...  I've got some monster JVC headphones, Sony studio ones, Sony DJ ones, and some Senns.  Ooh, but nothing is better then a good pair of Senns for gaming.  I heard you around that far left corner, I did!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: happybirthdaygelatin on 16 Sep 2005, 15:45
Eh, all I have are some TDK with the big puffy padding.  They lasted the best out of most recent (eh, past 5 years say) other purchases.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: dinosrawr on 16 Sep 2005, 16:31
i hate hate hate the ipod's headphones

i picked up some sony silicon headphone earbuds
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 17 Sep 2005, 09:13
Sissies. I use some 4" long corded, volume control headphones. The sound quality is crisp, clear, smooth and (insert adjective here).

How much do you think that ran me? 20, maybe thirty bucks?

3.99.

Bitches.

xD
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 17 Sep 2005, 10:10
Quote from: Eldirial
Earbuds- I keep a pair in my bag, for when I forger a pair of good headphones.  I actually had a really nice pair of sony earbuds, great sound, comfortable, and they broke within two months. Good job sony.


i sort of wonder how you manage to forget headphones. but then i walk out my front door with my music going already.

i hate the ipod headphones (sorry, earbuds): they sound pretty bad (not bad for earbuds, but still arse), but they have this uncanny ability to get really tangled really fast, and they give off a "i'm a wanker" sort of vibe (although less now that everyone and their gay aunt has an ipod). my last set of good headphones were a pair of koss portapros, which sounded quite good for their size/. plus they folded up into themselves for protection (i've had 2 pairs of headphones come to an untimely end from being crushed in backpacks).

unfortunately they bit the dust a little while ago, and i still can't find all the warranty papers. so at the moment i'm rocking a pair of cheap sony whatevers. they don't sound that great, but they get the job done...
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: normz on 17 Sep 2005, 10:19
i love the way some reviewer descriped the ipod earbuds as coming in 'mug me' white *giggles* i always end up stealing my mums kick ass headphones that are huge ass 80's looking things (actually they are probably older than me) and their sound quality is BEAUTIFUL like were talking truly soundgasmic as their those big ass fancy shmancy noise blocking out crystal clear sound quality soundgasm type ones and when i cant steal (i mean borrow :P) them then i have some crappy sony ones
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 17 Sep 2005, 10:25
yeh. although they make you look like something of a wanker, and an easy target for muggers, the white earbud thing is a stoke of marketing genius on apple's behalf.

i <3 jonathan ive.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Eldirial on 17 Sep 2005, 10:29
I'm currently using a pair of Sony DJ headphones- not as good as my old senheiser ones (I can't spell, I know it.)- but they arn't bad.  I've been looking for a good pair, but with such little extra money to spend, It's probably not happening soon.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: FreshJive787 on 17 Sep 2005, 15:15
the ipod nano is so small you could lose it in an empty room, but it is cool.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Merkava on 20 Sep 2005, 13:53
Quote from: Tedd
Sissies. I use some 4" long corded, volume control headphones. The sound quality is crisp, clear, smooth and (insert adjective here).

How much do you think that ran me? 20, maybe thirty bucks?

3.99.

Bitches.

xD
\

Is that...serious? Or are you making a joke and getting my hopes up for no reason.

Ass. :P

===

The Nano is so small that you could wear it like a contact lense and control it with your eyelids.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 20 Sep 2005, 14:32
The iPod Nano is so small that you can accidentally inhale it, and then you have to push the controls with your white blood cells.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Merkava on 20 Sep 2005, 19:37
The iPod Nano is so small, that it could get lodged inside one of your cells, causing it to become an organelle. Therefore, during mitosis, it would become copied into the new cells until every cell had a music-playing organelle.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Spike on 20 Sep 2005, 20:16
That would be so awesome.  Text cannot display how blown away I am by the mere thought of that.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: lingy on 20 Sep 2005, 22:50
O.O, i went and got the regular iPod and when I arrived at my high school everyone yelled at me for not getting the nano...
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 21 Sep 2005, 04:18
Quote from: Merkava
The iPod Nano is so small, that it could get lodged inside one of your cells, causing it to become an organelle. Therefore, during mitosis, it would become copied into the new cells until every cell had a music-playing organelle.

Now here's an awesome application of nanotechnology.  Scientists and audio engineers, get on it!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: LiterSize on 21 Sep 2005, 07:58
oooh, could iPods be wired to GLOW?  That way when they do take over our bodies we can be LIKE TRON!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: neomang5 on 21 Sep 2005, 10:44
This thread just made me happy inside.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 21 Sep 2005, 11:08
Inside... your pants?!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: neomang5 on 21 Sep 2005, 14:00
Inside my everything
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Tedd on 21 Sep 2005, 16:01
Damn, I'm tired.



Nano still worthless. Tedd smash.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Merkava on 21 Sep 2005, 17:47
It makes me so mad that I want to buy a GBA Micro out of spite of my good judgement!

GRAWRG!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: Garcin on 22 Sep 2005, 00:58
Quote from: Merkava
The iPod Nano is so small, that it could get lodged inside one of your cells, causing it to become an organelle. Therefore, during mitosis, it would become copied into the new cells until every cell had a music-playing organelle.


Merkava wins thread!  Fatality!  Flawless Victory!
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: shatteredshards on 26 Sep 2005, 23:06
I think I got through the first page and a half. I'll stop there and give my two cents.

My old MP3 player was a Rio. A FOUR YEAR OLD 128MB RIO.

I finally gave up on it (the battery life had reduced to about 30 minutes) and bought a 1GB Shuffle in February with my tax refund.

Belt clips suck. I had one for my Rio and if I ever tried to clip it on stuff, it might either fall off or it would somehow get caught on the headphone cord or something. I usually gave up and threw the sucker into my purse or pocket.

This battery life problem people claimed with the Shuffle? Yeah, that tends to happen when you don't cycle it. I almost always discharge mine completely before recharging it, and I'm charging it, at most, a couple times a month with normal use (to and from work, approx. an hour a day, sometimes more).

The only reason I'm looking at replacing my Shuffle with a Nano now is because I'm starting to get close to that gig limit, but there's no way in heck I can use 20gigs. That would feel like the biggest waste to me, to have a clunky 20GB in my pocket with maybe 2GB of stuff on it. As for $250, I've known about their student discount for awhile and that will at least knock it down to $230.

I looked at the Zens people have been referring to - that the heck is the point of having rounded edges/corners on the back with sharp edges and 90 degree angles on the font?! So it can either bulge out of your pocket akwardly or dig into your thigh? And in all honesty, the button setup is just akward compared to the lovely little circular thing I have now. Even my Rio had a circular control setup.

And um...earbuds suck because it's physically impossible for me to wear them. :P
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 27 Sep 2005, 04:13
If there's one thing I like in a post, it's thoroughness.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: pip_helix on 27 Sep 2005, 07:55
what i don't understand is why a 4gb nano is only $50 less than a 20gb full-size..i mean, if you're gonna plunk down $250 for crap amounts of storage, why not just spring for the full-size, cos at that point, what's another $50?

me, i'm happy with my mini, and until such time as it dies beyond all possible hope of fixing it, i'll stay happy with it.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: MilkmanDan on 27 Sep 2005, 08:01
I think the point is IT'S REALLY SMALL.

The Nano is cool. No doubt about that, but I kinda wanted Apple to go in the other direction, and make a bigger one. I don't want to spend $400 or whatever to carry around some of my music. Well, I did, but I didn't want to. Clearly, more research is needed on this 'store music in your cells' idea. If each cell can carry my whole DNA in it, I think it can deal with a freaking MP3. That's where the future is, mark my words.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: pip_helix on 27 Sep 2005, 08:18
hm. kinda gives a new meaning to having inherently good taste.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: shatteredshards on 27 Sep 2005, 20:26
Quote from: MilkmanDan
I think the point is IT'S REALLY SMALL.
... but I kinda wanted Apple to go in the other direction, and make a bigger one.


They will eventually. Just watch.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 28 Sep 2005, 04:25
There's already a bigger iPod.  It's called an iBook.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 28 Sep 2005, 06:43
i was actually wondering about this. i haven't had much personal experience with apple's most recent laptops, so i ask: is it possible to start itunes, close your ibook (screen off, but processor running), plug in some headphones, throw it in your bag, and use it as a very big, high-capacity mp3 player?

i mean, i have an ipod already, but i'm just wondering.
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: jhocking on 28 Sep 2005, 06:47
Not that I know of.  Closing the screen puts the computer to sleep.

I was just kidding, btw.  The maximum capacity iPods store 60GB (y'all do know this, right?)  iBook harddrives don't store more than that, and don't forget that a large chunk of the space is taken up by the OS and applications (ie. not all music.)
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: -sam on 28 Sep 2005, 20:40
It's possible to hack an apple laptop to run with the screen lid down, but it's not recommended.

-sam
Title: iPod Nano
Post by: salada on 29 Sep 2005, 02:58
makes sense i guess. it'd be all non-ventilatin', especially if it were in your backpack at the time.