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Musical contributions from your Country, to the world, that you feel you should apologize for... and others which you feel you should be proud of.
I am personally very sorry for Avril Levigne, and Celine Dion.
However I think we compensated with The Tragically Hip, Travis, Metric and the Barenaked Ladies.
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You also gave us The Holy Shroud, The Plan, North of America and Ion Dissonance. God bless Canada.
I hereby officially apologise for: Schnappi. First and foremost. Seriously, I can't express how sorry I am.
Also, Scooter, Rammstein, Nena and basically everything pop to ever come out of Germany. I can't think of anything remotely good in that case.
We did give you Can, Kraftwerk and ...er ... yeah. Metal bands. They might not be good, but they're decent enough. I can live with that.
I also apologize for Jamba/Jamster. While it's not music, it is originally from Germany and extremely annoying.
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You gave us Rage, the greatest metal band ever. Peavey Wagner, FTW!!
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I apologize for Shania Twain... Her and Celine Dion are pretty much the least Canadian canadians I know of. Oh and also I paologize for Avril Lavigne and Simple Plan.
Feist and Broken Social Scene were definitely gifts.
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I'm sorry for... well, a whole lot of things.
But America did give us Hendrix, the Doors, Iced Earth, and I'm sure there are more but I'm not really cognizant due to the painkillers I'm taking to get over the pain in my mouth right now.
Wisdom teeth suck.
And Rush is the best thing Canada ever did for the world. By far.
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RUSH?!?!
You die now.
(Incidentally... I apologize for my Country having inflicted Rush on the world).
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OK well no, rush is not the best thing to ever come from Canada, but i wouldn't consider them a hemorrhoid on the ass of rock.
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Since America has crammed its music into every last corner of the earth since 1930, should the Americans break it down by region/scene/city/state?
I'm from New Hampshire. We haven't given you much big-time stuff apart from Aerosmith and Adam Sandler, and they both claim to be from Massachussetts so I guess I don't have to do much about that. I'll hand them off to the Mass folks.
However, you are very welcome to use our Dresden Dolls any time you like. And am I sorry about the Shaggs, or extremely smug about them?
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RUSH?!?!
You die now.
(Incidentally... I apologize for my Country having inflicted Rush on the world).
Yeah, well, you call Rage the best metal band ever. Therefore, you lose.
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ZING!
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I apologise for finnish ass biscuit metal (Impaled Nazarene, (post-Amok) Sentenced, Apocalyptica, Stratovarius, Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Children Of Bodom, etc.).
I'm proud of finnish post-rock/prog (Circle, Kuusumun Profeetta/Moon Fog Prophet, Magyar Posse, This Empty Flow, (early) Wigwam, etc), non-bling hip-hop and old school doom metal (Reverend Bizarre, Garden Of Worm, etc).
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A lot of crap has come outta Canada, but a lot of good stuff come's from here too. I apoligize for Rush (EW!), Shawn Desmond (I don't know why I thought of him), the typical Canadian divas, Sum 41, Simple Plan, etc.
However good people from Canada: The Dears, DFA 1979, Metric, Broken Social Scene, Les George Leningrad, Hawsley Workman, Arts&Crafts records, Warsaw Pack, Makeshift Heros, Planet Smashers, Leslie Feist, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Controller.Controller, The Organ and a bunch of other cool stuff.
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Sorry about the spice girls. But look on the bright side, you forigners dont have to put up with the tabloid expliots of these increasingly attention starved slappers. I swear that geri haliwell is going to be the next jordan.
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There are too many UK bands to praise, and even more to apologise for. But I feel my city owes you all an apology on behalf of The Kaiser Chiefs. We don't know how it happened, but as soon as we work it out we'll take steps. Serious steps. On the other hand, Gang Of Four were pretty great weren't they? And we gave you Canvas, Bilge Pump, Polaris and Fig 4.0 too, so on balance our cock-ups are outweighed by our successes.
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hmm, now lets see I live in Iowa so sorry for slipknot and all that. Now who else from Iowa has anyone actually heard? Will Whitmore, Meth,n,Goats, Raccoo-oo-oon, that one generic hardcore band perhaps?...what?...no? Well then I guess the musical reputation of my state sucks.
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Idaho, huh? all I gots is Paul Revere and the Raiders and Built to Spill, so you're welcome.
I appologise for Mad Ro, if you've ever heard them, I appologise doubly.
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Sorry about The Vines, Human Nature, anyone who came off neighbours or home and away or those idol shows. Anyone remember that girl who got hoisted up and swung around during the opening ceremony of the 2000 olympics? She released an album, I am so, so sorry.
But we gave you guys Nick Cave, Custard, ACDC, AiH, Bodyjar, The Herd, The Whitlams, early Silverchair. Also, Radio Birdman.
Hell most of these should be at least not bad.
[edit]Also sorry for 30 odd foot of grunt; Russel Crowe's band.
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I apologise for finnish ass biscuit metal (Impaled Nazarene, (post-Amok) Sentenced, Apocalyptica, Stratovarius, Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Children Of Bodom, etc.).
I think I hate you.
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I'm sorry for Avril Lavigne, Sum 41 and Sugar Jones... oh I'm so sorry.
But I give you the gift of Alexisonfire. Tra la la.
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New Jersey:
THE BAD
My Chemical Romance
Thursday
THE GOOD
Bruce Springsteen
The Smithereens
Yeah we haven't done anything decent since the 80's, I'll admit it.
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I'll also apologise for Good Charlotte and Alexisonfire from Canada.
But hey, no one from Canada has mentioned the gifts of The New Pronographers, Sloan, Zumpano, The Arcade Fire, The Guess Who, Neil Young, or Wolf Parade yet, so I'll throw them on to Canada's gems.
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I'll apologize for Garbage, from my hometown of Madison, WI.
Canada has godspeed, which makes up for just about anything crappy they can possibly throw at us. Except Celine Dion. No forgiveness there.
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However I think we compensated with The Tragically Hip, Travis, Metric and the Barenaked Ladies.
That can't be the same Travis from Scotland that preempted Coldplay's sincere crapness. I guess I'd better apologise for them and Texas, Wet Wet Wet and any other MOR band that is vaguely linked to Scotland.
As a gift I give you several members (argueably the most important ones) of The Beta Band, Mogwai, Arab Strap, The Cocteau Twins, Ewan Pearson's contribution to remixing and Optimo; both the best nightclub and DJs in the world (or at least the UK).
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i apolgize for the veronica's, all the grinspoon albums since 2000, vanessa amorosi, ben lee, anthony callea, any australian rap group, pretty much a whole lot of crap.
but we did create, eskimo joe, something for kate, early powderfinger, early grinspoon, arcitecture in helsinki, as well as heaps of other good stuff.
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any australian rap group
There's a whole lotta people gonna be angry with you 'bout that!
Anyway, screw the rest of the world, Australia created the Go-Betweens. Also the Saints (while Ed Kuepper was still a member, anyway). And a whole bunch of other bands that too few people outside Australia have heard of (such as the Underground Lovers, the Cruel Sea, the Sharp - well, their second album at least). Oh, and the Dirty fucken' Three.
This more than makes up for Kylie Minogue.
Not so sure whether it makes up for Danniiiiininiinnniniiiiii Minogue, though . . .
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being from California, i would like to apologize for the monster of mediocre rock music that Green Day has become, as well as Goldfinger, Finch, Avenged Sevenfold, Weezer's last three albums, Korn, Linkin Park, etc. however, i think The Aquabats, Jawbreaker, Mike Park, Jets to Brazil, Agent Orange, The Adolescents, Descendents, Throw Rag, Del tha Funky Homosapien and a bunch of other bands/artists i'm sure i'm forgetting do/did their part in helping to heal the wounds.
and while we're on the subject, i'd like to thank the country of Canada for providing The Weakerthans, The Planet Smashers, and Chris Murray.
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There's a whole lotta people gonna be angry with you 'bout that!
Like me!
More gifts to the world: The Herd, Hilltop Hoods, TZU, Resin Dogs, 1200 Techniques, Hermitude, Downsyde.
We, the people of Australia would also like to apologise for that Joel Turner guy.
Also, big ups to Canada for having awesome music*.
*provided they apologise for Bryan Adams.
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Canada gave us all The Swarm. There's no way you can sin enough to negate that, so feel safe Canadians. And you Australians gave us Halo, so you should feel all warm inside about that.
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Gifts: Under Byen, The Raveonettes(at least Chain Gang of Love), Efterklang, Mew, Kitty Wu, Jomi Massage, Figurines, Malk de Koijn, Powersolo, Tiger Tunes and Wäldchengarten.
Apologies for: Aqua, S.O.A.P, DJ Alligator, Safri Duo, Bent Fabric, Outlandish(for their horrid cover of Aicha) countless shitty pop bands and most of all Cartoons and Michael Learns to Rock.
Though if it's any excuse they are virtually unknown in Denmark, it's the asians who are sucking it up.
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the notwist are a german band too.
i don't know them enough to decide whether i should apologize or not...
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I apologise for...well, Coldplay since they offend so many people.
In return I give the gift of The Beatles, Pink Floyd, David Bowie...
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Sorry, world, for Coldplay, Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs, Snow Patrol, Radiohead, and basically every other soul-searingly boring 'rock' band of the 90's. Also, brit-pop, fuck was that stuff shit! (And, to the Gallagher brothers, it still is). Also, sorry for chav rap bands (except Goldie Lookin' Chain, GLC4LYFE!) pretty much every major 'urban' artist this country has ever produced, busted, McFly, and all that endless, endless multiplicity of emo and screamo and whatever the fuck-else-o that seems to be pouring out of the South of England and Wales nowadays. I hate and loathe it all.
To compensate, Skyclad (the greatest band in the world), Hawkwind, The Sisters of Mercy, Iron Maiden, Forefather, Bal-Sagoth, The Anti-Nowhere League, Judas Priest, Vampire Division, Fields of the Nephilim, Pink Floyd, Sol Invictus, Centurions Ghost, Zombina and the Skeletones, Psychic TV, Ewigkeit, Bauhaus, Tan-Hauser Gate, Coil, Inkubus Sukkubus, My Dying Bride, Gorerotted, Deep Purple, Electric Wizard, Jeff Wayne, Killing Miranda, The Meads of Asphodel, Adam & the Ants, Queen Adreena, DragonForce, The Inbreds, UK Subs, Saxon, Genesis, Current 93, Whitehouse, Culture Club, Motorhead, The Beatles, Siouxsie and the Banshees, old Cradle of Filth, Throbbing Gristle, Yes, Orange Goblin, This Mortal Coil, Death in June, Iron Monkey, Black Sabbath, The Clan Destined, Joy Division, Cathedral, Napalm Death, Overlord...Basically, an over-large slice of planet earths allocation of decent shit.
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Khar, you forgot Led Zeppelin.
But yeah, Britain > pretty much every other country as far as music is concerned.
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Pretty crazy: the moment I saw that you had repsonded and clicked on the thread title, but before I posted the post, I thought 'Shit, I forgot Led Zeppelin'.
I forgot Sabbat, The Cure, Pariah, etc. etc. as well.
Listing all good British musics is unpossible!
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SoCal
Hate us, we gave you so many pop stars it is not even funny...
Love us, we gave you Oingo Boingo.
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Dude, Los Angeles gave the world X. That makes up for almost anything.
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I am so, so sorry for Sum 41. Really, there are no words.
But at least we Torontonians smartened up a bit and gave you Broken Social Scene, too.
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Connecticut!
Apologies: John Mayer, Dashboard Confessional
Special Apologies: Brooklyn hipsters. Let's be honest. They don't call 'em "trust fund babies" for nothing. And all the ones that didn't come from Westchester came from good old Fairfield County, CT.
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There's a whole lotta people gonna be angry with you 'bout that!
Like me!
More gifts to the world: The Herd, Hilltop Hoods, TZU, Resin Dogs, 1200 Techniques, Hermitude, Downsyde.
We, the people of Australia would also like to apologise for that Joel Turner guy.
Also, big ups to Canada for having awesome music*.
*provided they apologise for Bryan Adams.
i'd rather shoot myself in the head then have to live a life of listening to 1200 techniques and hilltop hoods
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Well, us Americans have a lot of apologies to make.
But first, we must take credit for most major genres - Jazz, Rock (even if the brits did it better), Funk, and, hell, House, Hip-Hop, etc...
However, living half an hour from Berkeley I do feel an existential pang to know that The Gilman spawned Green Day.
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all the grinspoon albums since 2000
Oh god. SECOND
Not about the rap though. I have a warm place in my heart for the hoods, and I will kill anyone who badmouths the Resin Dogs, even though they're not rap at all, really.
I guess I should apologize for John Farnam as well. Seriously. I'm so sorry. You can punch me in the junk if it will make you feel better.
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reading that dragonforce thread reminded me: blind guardian is a german band, right?
so once more it's up to you to decide...
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i apologise for the beatles.
but we gave you carcass.
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I apologise for Boyzone, for Westlife, for Bewitched, for Ronan Keating. I feel really fucking bad about the Corrs. and you know I'm sick with regret over 90s U2. For all the twee plastic Paddy shit we've unleashed over the years - I'm just so fucking sorry!
then again we did give you 80s U2, Thin Lizzy, Ash, the Frames and Therapy?
So I feel slightly better.
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Kansas: I apologize for the Get up kids. and we really don't have anything else to repay that. Pity.
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being from California, i would like to apologize for the monster of mediocre rock music that Green Day has become, as well as Goldfinger, Finch, Avenged Sevenfold, Weezer's last three albums, Korn, Linkin Park, etc. however, i think The Aquabats, Jawbreaker, Mike Park, Jets to Brazil, Agent Orange, The Adolescents, Descendents, Throw Rag, Del tha Funky Homosapien and a bunch of other bands/artists i'm sure i'm forgetting do/did their part in helping to heal the wounds.
Man, you gave us the whole San Francisco noise scene and the San Diego (post-) hardcore stuff, no need to worry.
I mean, we have The Flying Luttenbachers (though they are originally from Chicago they are no SF based, so they count), Burmese, The Locust, Heroin, Mohinder, Drive Like Jehu, Rocket From The Crypt and the list goes on....
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i apologise for the beatles.
WHAT?!
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Kansas: I apologize for the Get up kids. and we really don't have anything else to repay that. Pity.
Why not give us early Get Up Kids, and apologize for later Get Up Kids?
Or take credit for your neighbors in Nebraska. Saddle Creek= plenty of giving and apologizing.
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Cursive is pretty awesome. No need to apologize.
Bright Eyes is.. tolerable.
The rest is not so good.
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i apologise for the beatles.
WHAT?!
¬_¬
you heard me.
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Uhm, any reason why you feel the need to apologize for what may very well be one of the most important bands in history?
And no, that is not a matter of opinion. Whether you like or dislike the Beatles, they were freaking important. This is not debateable. It was fact. They changed music forever. Most of what we have today would not even exist if it were not for them.
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but they invented pop music. I can understand for having to apologise for that.
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But the point of apologizing is saying "I'm sorry for this, it shouldn't have happened". Dude the Beatles were fucking NESSESARY. Apologies just do not even work in this situation.
I'm sorry for being an anal retentive bitch, I just cannot even comprehend this situation right now.
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listen, I don't wanna get into it, I don't think you're going to change his opinion. I say we drop it.
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may i suggest breathing? ^_^
if you came from liverpool and had them forced down your throat every day of your life..
also, if you got asked by tourists almost every day where the goddamn ellen mcarthur statue is..
its funny that people always blow up at me when they discover my hatred.
but.
trollstormur hit the nail on the head.
and its not just the music but the whole culture behind it.
edit: trollstormur, i am girl.
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Basically: Nuke the very old beatles, keep the stuff when they stopped touring and made some good music. Their early work is pretty worthless though, at least to me.
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Scotland. Soooo............
Apologies for: The Proclaimers, Lulu, Wet Wet Wet, KT Tunstall,
Compensation: Biffy Clyro, Aerogramme, Mogwai, Belle and Sebastian, Marmaduke Duke, Arab Strap, Aberfeldy, Teenage Fanclub, and Idlewild.
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Basically: Nuke the very old beatles, keep the stuff when they stopped touring and made some good music. Their early work is pretty worthless though, at least to me.
Sounds about right?
A girl who likes 1349? ZOMG MARRY ME AND HAVE METAL BABIES. </stereotypical reaction>
Still, metal babies.
"Is he crying?"
"No, but he's throwing the horns!"
Anyway, why do you have a statue of Ellen Mcarthur? She lives on my island, dammit!
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Anyway, why do you have a statue of Ellen Mcarthur? She lives on my island, dammit!
because i'm extremely absent minded and meant to say eleanor rigby?
[/end embarrassment]
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being from California, i would like to apologize for the monster of mediocre rock music that Green Day has become, as well as Goldfinger, Finch, Avenged Sevenfold, Weezer's last three albums, Korn, Linkin Park, etc. however, i think The Aquabats, Jawbreaker, Mike Park, Jets to Brazil, Agent Orange, The Adolescents, Descendents, Throw Rag, Del tha Funky Homosapien and a bunch of other bands/artists i'm sure i'm forgetting do/did their part in helping to heal the wounds.
and while we're on the subject, i'd like to thank the country of Canada for providing The Weakerthans, The Planet Smashers, and Chris Murray.
You, lovely gentleman, now have my heart! Big ups for mentioning Mike Park, big ups. I totally forgot to mention The Weakerthans in my list though. Also, CHRIS MURRAY'S FROM CANADA?
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On the behalf of the city of Bradford, i would like to apologise for gareth gates. On the positive side, a friend of mine knows a girl that used to beat him up in school. So we can pretend that was some VERY proactive justice.
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I'm not a huge Beatles fan, but you gotta give the props for Sgt. Peppers and the White Album. Amazing, and the latter gave us the Gray Album, so...
I'd like to give shoutouts to Britain. Autechre, Leftfield, Photek, Mclusky...can you do no wrong?
Wait, don't answer that.
Also, Yugoslavia gets further Kudos for Laibach. "Tanz Mit Laibach." Really, I don't need to say much more.
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Tanz Mit Laibach is, indeed, the best industrial dance track ever.
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laibach are great.
their "deus ex mchina" is nice.
but why did i think they were german?
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edit: trollstormur, i am girl.
'scuze me.
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but why did i think they were german?
*enter useless trivia mode*
they're slovenian to be precise but sing in german, presumably because it sounds evil ;) They are named after the german name for the capital of Slovenia, Ljubljana.
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Also, CHRIS MURRAY'S FROM CANADA?
yup. he's living in Los Angeles now, yeah, but he's originally from Canada. he was in a band up there called King Apparatus.
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KaosPilot:
In addition to some of the bands you already mentioned, I'd also like to thank you and your countrymen for The Delgados, Boards of Canada, and The Beta Band!
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Oh, and an important apology -- I'm originally from Virginia, so I'd like to say that I'm very very VERY sorry about the Dave Matthews Band.
Cheers for Missy Elliot, Ella Fitzgerald, and The Carter Family, though.
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So Dave Matthews is from Virginia? If I lived in Virginia, I think I'd shoot myself.
I just learned Puddle of Mudd are from Kansas. This too is shoot yourself material.Bring me my bullets, My brain needs lead.
Seriously, people, I am SO fucking sorry.
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I doubt any of you would know any of the dire New Zealand bands that we've produced, but I apologise for the television show "popstars" which some kiwi mastermind came up with. "popstars" begat "Your country here Idol", so yeah. I'm sorry.
If any of you have had the pleasure of listening to any bands on the Flying Nun label you will probably forgive us tho. The Clean, The Bats, The Verlaines, 3Ds etc FTW!
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Flying Nun is for Yes. NZ has yet to offend my ears. Your experimental music (The Dead C, Birchville Cat Motel) is great too, despite what some around me think.
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Well... I'll try and concentrate on Quebec since the rest [of Canada] is being pretty well covered...
I'm sorry for
Celine Dion, Jonas, Simple Plan and I'm sure many many others
At least we provided... erm... did anything good we did ever get out of here?
I'd say La Bottine Souriante (traditional folk) is pretty darn excellent..
And Cryptopsy if you're into that kind of stuff..
jeez, what DID get known (good and/or bad) from Quebec?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californian_music B-)
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I doubt any of you would know any of the dire New Zealand bands that we've produced, but I apologise for the television show "popstars" which some kiwi mastermind came up with. "popstars" begat "Your country here Idol", so yeah. I'm sorry.
If any of you have had the pleasure of listening to any bands on the Flying Nun label you will probably forgive us tho. The Clean, The Bats, The Verlaines, 3Ds etc FTW!
Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom are from New Zealand. For that I love your country forever.
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Well... I'll try and concentrate on Quebec since the rest [of Canada] is being pretty well covered...
I'm sorry for
Celine Dion, Jonas, Simple Plan and I'm sure many many others
At least we provided... erm... did anything good we did ever get out of here?
I'd say La Bottine Souriante (traditional folk) is pretty darn excellent..
And Cryptopsy if you're into that kind of stuff..
jeez, what DID get known (good and/or bad) from Quebec?
As I said before: Ion Dissonance. I like them a lot, although they are probably even worse than Cryptopsy.
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Well, I'm not sure if I should be representing my new home of Scotland, or my old home of England.
If Scotland, I offer Mogwai, Boards Of Canada and Bify Clyro. I apologise for Franz Ferdinand, and probobly alot of other things.
England is a rather larger affair, so I'll work with genres. Sorry about Brit-pop, both the Oasis / Blur time (except for Pulp), and the new crap (Kaiser Cheifs, The Dull No-One Cares, etc). I'm also deeply sorry for Garage.
On the plus side, we gave you Drum n Bass, IDM, Grime, Dubstep and Post-rock (Well, we came up with the word, anyway).
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I'm sorry america killed punk.
our bad.
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I'd like to ask for forgiveness since Canada begat Nickleback and everyone associated with them (Default, Theory of a Dead Man).
In return, we give you Islands and Stompin' Tom Connors.
Edit: I checked on AMG, and apparently South Africa is to blame for Dave Matthews. They also brought Manfred Mann into this world, so I'm not sure where they stand.
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Yeah, I think Dave Matthews himself is South African, but the band got together in Charlottesville, Virginia. I'm happy to pass the blame to South Africa, though!
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New Jersey:
THE BAD
My Chemical Romance
Thursday
THE GOOD
Bruce Springsteen
The Smithereens
Yeah we haven't done anything decent since the 80's, I'll admit it.
I'd like to add The Feelies to the THE GOOD list. Especially for the first two LPs.
As for me
I apologise most profusely for Kasabian
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i would like to tack a Streetlight Manifesto rider onto the New Jersey GOOD list.
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Weren't Fast Times from New Jersey? They kicked ass in large amounts. I still have fond memories of the crowd surfing challenges they set when they played here with Imbalance years ago.
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Weren't Fast Times from New Jersey? They kicked ass in large amounts.
Precisely so!
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I'd like to apologies for Max Martin, the guy who wrote pretty much every song for Backstreet Boys and Brittney Spears. And also for Roxette (actually, I apologise for everthing that Per Gessle has done, but I guess Roxette is the only one of his bands that any forigner have to suffer trough).
uh, and I'm also very, very sorry that the creator of "crazy frog" happens to be Swedish, but he actually already apologised to the world himself, so I guess I don't have to do that.
But on the bright side, we do have bands such as Perishers, David & the Citizens, Soundtrack of our lives, Dungen, Bad Qash Quartet, Tiger Lou, Bob Hund and The Ark.. and Abba, of course. Altough I feel I should apologies for them too sometimes.
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I would like to apologise for such horrid Canadian acts as: Sloan, The Tragically Hip, Bryan Adams, Brian Mulroney, Alanis Morrissette, Great Big Sea, The Barenaked Ladies, 54/40 and Canadian Idol. All that stupid stuff.
But, in Canada's defense: The Constantines, Moneen, The Unicorns, Sea Snakes, the Hidden Cameras, Neil Young (!), Joni Mitchell, The Weakerthans, Wolf Parade, Fembots, You Say Party! We say Die! and every incarnation of AC Newman's amazing songwriting.
Oh, I forgot to apologise for the big one: Billy Talent. I am sooo sorry. Can you ever forgive us?
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Brian Mulroney?
(http://www.cp.org/premium/ONLINE/member/National/050912/n0912145.jpg)
THAT Brian Mulroney? You will be my hero if you tell me that he had a singing career that I haven't heard about.
Honestly, that would make this an awesome year.
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Sadly, he never had a singing career. I just thought it would be funny to all the rest of the Canadians to namedrop him.
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haha i laughed.
i loathe brian mulroney. but he had an entertaining chin. that will do.
canada really created some incredible music. i would like to add greg macpherson, cuff the duke, rae spoon, valdy, propagandhi, and, althought previously mentioned, the weakerthans, because i love them so much.
ew, i just remembered ben mulroney. how frightening.
and i profusely apologize for all the pop-punk. i am so sorry.
and of course, celine dion and shania twain. if i had a gun and a violent attitude, they would be shot.
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Simple Plan, Nickelback and the ilks of both are things I am terribly sorry for. Everyone else on the UK Singles Jukebox has duly noted them as part of my cultural heritage, giving me my only reason for seppuku thus far.
However, we pretty much invented the indie rock collective. Also, Death From Above 1979. And Sloan. And Moneen. And locally, we gave you Despistado. Now we give you Sylvie.
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The UK Singles Jukebox... That's on Stylus isn't it? Do you write for them?
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John Cameron, aka That Indie Fuck, The Guy Who Hates tatu, etc. I'm going to submit my name for actual music reviews, too.
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death from above!!!
that definately takes away all the terrible music we have produced.
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Lester Bangs was into Anne Murray.
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Invasion of the Mutant Space Bats of Doom are from New Zealand. For that I love your country forever.
Wait, that's a band? I thought it was just the coolest early 90's cult shareware EGA space invaders clone ever.
I believe the UK produced the entire genre of trip-hop...the gestalt of The Sneaker Pimps + Portishead is enough to wash away many, many sins.
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Lester Bangs was into Anne Murray.
We can't all be perfect. Besides, Lester Bangs was so awesome I can totally ignore some things.
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about 80 posts, half of them canadian it seem, and none of you have mentioned the sheer life-changing gift that is Leonard Cohen. tsk tsk tsk
having said that, romania has offered nothing to the international music scene, so I have no prezzies nor any apologies for you.
And before you start moaning, 2 things: o-zone are moldovan and the cheeky girls are a product of british manufacture who have not even made it in romania (and if you knew the bredth of shit on the airwaves there, that's saying something)
also, i should probably say something about britain cause i've lived here for most my life, but i won't cause it's already been coved sufficely and pretty well - one or two minor qualms aside.
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I would like to apologise for such horrid Canadian acts as: Sloan, The Tragically Hip, Bryan Adams, Brian Mulroney, Alanis Morrissette, Great Big Sea, The Barenaked Ladies, 54/40 and Canadian Idol. All that stupid stuff.
To be fair, we didn't invent Canadian Idol. Our hands are somewhat clean.
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about 80 posts, half of them canadian it seem, and none of you have mentioned the sheer life-changing gift that is Leonard Cohen. tsk tsk tsk
Life-changing gift? I mean he's good, but not that good. I would like to add him to my list.
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John Cameron, aka That Indie Fuck, The Guy Who Hates tatu, etc. I'm going to submit my name for actual music reviews, too.
Ah, cool. I was interested because my friend Will writes for that bit of Stylus, or maybe edits it, I forget. And he does love the dodgy pop, even made me sit through a Girls Aloud record once...
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@Loyalpeon: What do you mean Romania has nothing to apologise for? Manele!
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Well, since I live(d) in Niagara Falls, I'll cover St. Catherines, too, which is a twenty minute drive. Hell, I'll cover Burlington also.
I apologize for Alexisonfire. I really do. I remember when they played basements, and guess what? They sucked /then/, too.
However, I'll say that we gave you the Pettit Project; geeky, fun, dork-heads who sing geekrock. Not to be taken seriously. We also gave you the Trews(or we'll share them with the Maritimes.). Hell, why not cover Ontario? We also gave you Metric.
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You also gave us The Holy Shroud, The Plan, North of America and Ion Dissonance. God bless Canada.
yes. thank you.
oh, and IL is sorry for Fallout Boy.
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i'm from belgium ... the bad things are soooo bad they don't get out of belgium! ;-)
On the other hand: we got many great bands that don't make it in europe or the world because they don't get pushed by record companies.
but, if you had the bad luck the following bands..., i apologize ...plastic bertrand, soeur sourire, belgian (euro)house music. Apparently we invented new wave (i'm sorry)
and maybe you had the luck to encounter:
2 many dj's / soulwax, dEUS, Evil Superstars, Jacques Brel, Admiral Freebee, Ozark Henry, Millionaire, ...
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Oh My God I apologize for Simple Plan, I mean I'm really sorry that was bad. But Death From Above 1979, Arcade Fire, Weakerthans, and many more groups of goodness. But really Simple Plan is fucking terrible.
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I apologize for Alexisonfire. I really do. I remember when they played basements, and guess what? They sucked /then/, too.
You goddamn should be. You know what really sucks? having a friend who adores the shit out of them.
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I might be missing something here, but what's the problem with Alexisonfire? I thought that Watch Out! was stellar.
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TALKING HEADS
Nuff said.
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Are you apologising for the Talking Heads?
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If you are, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to kill you. I will take them graciously as gifts, however.
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No,no,no. I am taking credit for David Byrnes genius.
I LOVE TALKING HEADS.
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david byrne!!!
the love of my life....
i am so thankful.
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Ah, cool. I was interested because my friend Will writes for that bit of Stylus, or maybe edits it, I forget. And he does love the dodgy pop, even made me sit through a Girls Aloud record once...
The only one whose last name I can remember is Will Swygart, the editor. But if memory serves they both love the dodgy pop.
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That's him, lovely bloke despite the wonky pop appreciation. He makes up for it with his enjoyment of the Rogers Sisters and Melt-Banana though.
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My hometown of Birmingham gave the world ELO (although that may be seen as a bad thing by some), Kelli Ali the lead singer of the Sneaker Pimps, The Moody Blues, The Streets, Nick Drake, a little bit of Pink Floyd in the form of Nick Mason, Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin.
However i apologise profusely for UB40, Duran Duran, Jamelia and Ocean Colour Scene.
As for Hull..well i don't know any good bands which have come from here, but i will apologise for the shitty Libertines rip off of a band, The Paddingtons. They are apparently "The Next Big Thing!!!!!" according to NME type press.
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I didn't have time to read them all, but somone from the states should really...REALLY apologize for Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera.
On behalf of Norway, I would like to apologize for our country singers, such as Arly Karlsen, which is...scarely enough...very popular in the states.
Tho' I think we can be proud of artists such as Maria Mena, Madrugada and Ane Brun.
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Don't forget Heidi Hauge ;)
Though to be fair we have our own share of awful country singers, one of them called Wenche. Who knows where she got that from, it's not even a danish name.
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@Loyalpeon: What do you mean Romania has nothing to apologise for? Manele!
Yee Gods! How in the name of Ughthor have you heard of Manele?! I thought it was a perfectly isolated phenomenon that we as a culture had managed to stiffle at the limits of our borders.
Well, considering you have heard of them (I take it you have a Romanian friend or are just too curious for your own good), I profusely apologise to you for any loss of sanity you may have suffered as a result.
Having said that, 0.000000001% of them are good :).
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Ignorance is bliss. You've never been to Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece or Turkey and you have no idea of the myriad of related genres? Reportedly late-90's-style Bulgarian pop-folk (maybe the most annoying of these genres; I even somewhat enjoy the more "traditional" chalga; neither of these has anything much to do with folk music, btw; I think pop-folk was coined after the Serbian turbofolk - which (or the kind of music that gave birth to it; in Serbia itself it seems to refer more to the early 90's turbofolk) was popular in the 80's; how that name came about I don't know) has been somewhat popular in places like Italy and Spain.
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Don't forget Heidi Hauge ;)
Oh, yes, thanks for reminding me. Sorry! So, SO sorry!
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On behalf of Texas
I apologize for Bowling for Soup (I like them, most hate them)
I give you Lyle Lovett
"Just remember that's a bear there, having lunch with you..."
Edit: I'm aware Texas isn't a country (anymore), but people have been representing their states as well as countries it seems.
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Well, considering you have heard of them (I take it you have a Romanian friend or are just too curious for your own good), I profusely apologise to you for any loss of sanity you may have suffered as a result.
I once got into a discussion with a metalhead from transylvania about the worthless human scum that surrounded us in our various countries. We swapped stories of Manele and Blazin' Squad, and were both appropriately cowed.
And, forgive me if I'm totally on the wrong-end of the stick, but isn't a considerable amount of turbofolk nationalist to some extent? I thought it was almost Milosovic's own version of Yugorock.
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Using Kid Modernist's Wikipedia article:
Gifts:
Jefferson Airplane
Janis Joplin
The Doors
Captain Beefheart
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
Social Distortion
Faith No More
Exodus
Testament
Megadeth
Apologies:
Motley Crue
Poison
Slayer
Green Day (so very, very sorry)
Hole
Metallica I wasn't sure what to do with: they had 4 pretty fucking solid albums and then 3 pieces of absolute shit, with one that was a mix of both. Make up your own mind about that one.
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And why are you apologising for slayer again? Seriously, they've gone to the dogs, but it'll be a long time before they completely fuck over their 80's legacy.
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I'm originally from Minnesota. Things don't tend to get out of the state these days...
Gifts: Halloween Alaska, Atmosphere, Tiki Obmar (from my high school!), the Honeydogs, Mark Mallman, G.B. Leighton
Apologies: That Semisonic's "Closing Time" and the Jayhawks' "Save It For a Rainy Day" got so damn overplayed. Hey, they're like our only hits...
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And why are you apologising for slayer again? Seriously, they've gone to the dogs, but it'll be a long time before they completely fuck over their 80's legacy.
Because they're so appallingly unoriginal. Seriously, all the songs on Reign In Blood are nearly identical. And Kerry King is terrible.
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I apologize for the Barenaked Ladies, now and forever the worst band in the history of music.
"But what about--" No. The Barenaked Ladies are worse.
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I'm originally from Minnesota.
Then I would like to personally thank you for the scene that allowed Prince to go and check out Husker Du.
And why are the Barenaked Ladies the worst band ever? They aren't my favorites, but...
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And, forgive me if I'm totally on the wrong-end of the stick, but isn't a considerable amount of turbofolk nationalist to some extent? I thought it was almost Milosovic's own version of Yugorock.
I wouldn't know, I would only recognise maybe two or three songs and I don't know Serbian, and I've always just assumed it was the same nonsense, discgustingly kitsch lyrics, about love or whatever, but always annoying as hell, they have in pop-"folk" and that thing we here just call "Greek music", but they call laïka in Greece. Anyway, back to the Serbs, come to think of it, a popular performer, Tsetsa Velichkovich was married (or so they said on the news when he got wasted, apparently it was an important enough event) to this paramilitary war criminal/mafia boss/whatever, I'm sure the Serbs must have a word for it :D
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By country, as far as I know, and I could very easily be wrong, as I mostly don't really like these, except maybe some chalga:
Romania has only manele, which is semi-traditional* and similar to chalga in Bulgaria, where it is less "traditional" that in it is in Romania. Bulgaria also has pop-"folk"*, which in the early 90's was influeced by the Serbian sound (as far as I know Serbia doesn't have styles similar to chalga or manele), as was laïka in Greece.
As for the sociological significance of these styles and their substyles, one could probably write a book about it... One thing I can say is that the fact that Romania has only one such style could be attributed to the unparaleled polarisation of society there, and anyone who doesn't want to be associated with manele there attempts to emulate a "western"-like sound, thus O-zone and such abominations. The case with Serbia is different as there turbofolk is not associated with the lower class, actually I don't know if you can talk about classes in Serbia at all, it's pretty much a kleptocracy.
The situations in Bulagria and Greece are different and well, more fuzzy.
*And of course, the various genres of actual Bulgarian folk music are completely unrelated to any of the genres we discuss here. Actually there's a lot more variation between Bulgarian folk genres that it is between these here; all these are practically the same genre in comparison. I even feel a bit dirty mentioning them in the same post, but I needed to make clear that the use of folk in their names is criminal.
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Philadelphia apologizes for Will Smith + DJ Jazzy Jeff (their music, not the show), Young Gunz, Boyz II Men, Eve, Pink and The Bloodhoung Gang. Man so much crappy rap out of Philadelphia.
But we DID give you Joan Jett, Stanley Clarke, G. Love and Special Sauce, the Disco Biscuits, and Schoolly D.
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Aren't the Roots from Philadelphia, that's gotta count for something :)
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Aren't the Roots from Philadelphia, that's gotta count for something :)
Yeah they are, but I wasn't sure which side to put them on. I don't mind them but I'm not sure about the rest of these folks.
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Minnesota
I'll also thank you for Low, Lifter Puller and the Dillinger Four if you don't mind.
(I actually can't remember if any other Minnesotans have mentioned those yet)
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Icelands gifts; Sigurrós and Mugison would be the only ones I know to be sold anywhere outside Island. But if you have heard of Anubis, nevolution, We Made God or Hera those are pretty decent too.
And I'm sorry for anything pop that ever came out of Iceland. As well as Björk, fuck Björk.
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While I might be the only one here, I am also thankful for Mínus. Good job, Iceland.
Also, good job on creating more artists of international importance (that's: with 250.000 inhabitants) than Germany (with around 80 million inhabitants). Seriously, that's awesome. It also means that Germany sucks, but we already know that.
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While everything I can think of Canadian has been apologized for, I must again beg forgiveness for Bryan Adams.....I do think that he is counteracted by David Bowie though.
Other Canadian gifts, the Organ, Lucy Psychosis (though now disbanded) and La Belle Orchestra.
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Also, good job on creating more artists of international importance (that's: with 250.000 inhabitants) than Germany (with around 80 million inhabitants).
What.
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Also, good job on creating more artists of international importance (that's: with 250.000 inhabitants) than Germany (with around 80 million inhabitants).
What.
Hmm... okay, maybe, given the sheer numbers, Germany might win (we're talking about stuff that gets aired on MTV in, say, the US). But then have a look at the population/artist ratio. Iceland wins.
It's not as much that Germany as such doesn't spawn artists that are internationally successful, it's just that of the top of my head, I could think 7 artists that got quite a bit of international recognition and hail from Iceland and given Iceland's population is basically a bit more than my hometown's population, I'm starting to ask myself whether my hometown has spawned any internationally respected artists. The answer is "no".
Seriously, I find Iceland's creative output stunning.
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Yeah, it's a nice place. But I think you're over-estimating the exposure of a lot of Icelandic groups. I mean, are we talking about current or all-time?
Because, dude. Kraftwerk.
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Yeah, I'm aiming more at current times. Or, well, the last 10 to 15 years too.
If you take a bigger timescale, sure, Can, Kraftwerk.
And if take an even bigger timescale, Germany totally kicks ass. I mean, come on now, Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Brahms, you name it.
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Germany wins because of Kompressor. This is a fact.
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i have a theory that the nastier the weather in a place, the better the music should be. this is why iceland, scotland, canada, minnesota and scandanavia all make reasonably nice music. they can't go outside, because it's too cold, so they stay in and work on music. or it gets too hot, so you stay in. why more bands aren't basing themselves in equatorial guinea or swaziland is beyond me.
i have nothing that you guys would have heard of to add. aih, nick cave, dirty three and so forth have all been said.
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the Disco Biscuits
<3 <3 <3 <3 The Disco Biscuits. Seriously, they are simpyl amazing and more people need to listen to them.
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And I'm sorry for anything pop that ever came out of Iceland. As well as Björk, fuck Björk.
:( I will accept Björk as a gift, and hug her and love her forever.
I have a new Canadian band to add to my Gifts list: Burdocks!! Soooo good.
http://www.myspace.com/theburdocks
Listen to "Turn the Century".
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i bring to you from so-cal,
-cattle decapitation
-the locust
-nile
and i apologize for
-avenged sevenfold
-as i lay dying
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You know, if my town spawned Avenged Sevenfold, I think I'd have one more thing to put on my list of "reasons to kill myself".
Also, You guys gave the world Mr. Bungle, if I'm correct. And I think Buckethead, but I'm not really sure.
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You know, if my town spawned Avenged Sevenfold, I think I'd have one more thing to put on my list of "reasons to kill myself".
Also, You guys gave the world Mr. Bungle, if I'm correct. And I think Buckethead, but I'm not really sure.
well, luckily, im not from the actual town which spawned avenged sevenfold,
i live in vista, which is somewhat near san diego(1 hour) and about 2 hours from hunnington beach(where a7x come from),but i dont think ANY bands have come out of vista.
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I hereby officially apologise for: Schnappi. First and foremost. Seriously, I can't express how sorry I am.
HAHAHAHAHAHA apology accepted mate.
Personally, (I'm originally from the States but I just LIVE in Luxembourg) I apologize for the ENTIRE FUCKING EMO SCENE.
But coming from Northern California, I give you Cake. Everybody loves Cake. And if they don't they do not have any taste buds. Er... ears?
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We gave you Charlotte Church, the Stereophonics, lostprophets and Funeral for a Friend.
But then to make up for it we also gave you the Super Furry Animals and Mclusky, which in my eyes make up for almost anything.
Cymru Am Byth!
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You also gave us Cerys Matthews :p
But I think Gorky's Zygotic Minki might make up for that
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Bullet for my Valentine are welsh.
You sick, sick bastards.
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Blame Margaret Thatcher. Don't ask me why, just do it.
Also, I actually like Cerys Matthew's solo album. Does this make me less of a man?
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The Clash, Sex Pistols, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Rolling Stones, Queen, The Libertines (Don't'chu diss Doherty fool!), Sir Eric Clapton MBE, Black Sabbath and many many more.
However we do profusely apologise for Thatcher (that cow is to blame for a lot of things), X Factor, Pop Idol and that other crappy reality TV show that produces whimsical talent. Oh, and I personally apologise for the Spice Girls. Girl Power obviously wasn't enough to keep them together.
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I apologise profusely for The Living End, After the Fall, Frenzal Rhomb, what Ben Lee has become, and what End Of Fashion will unfortunately be in about a years time.
I also apologise for what happened to Grinspoon after the 90’s and the ‘grown up’ version of Eskimo Joe. Actually, I apologise for a whole lot. We do have Wolfmother though. I have put a lot of faith into Wolfmother.
Oh and as a Coffs-Harbian, I personally apologise for not sniping Russel Crowe yet.