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Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« on: 25 Jan 2008, 18:31 »

I went to the Sydney show yesterday and was disappointed. I must have blocked it out of my memory previously how much of an awful day it really is...and because I had a free ticket I got a bit lazy about exploring and seeing bands, preferring to sit backstage amongst the relative safety of the rider and plastic chairs. The crowd was sort of terrifying. Arcade Fire's sound in the mainstage was washed out and fairly incomprehensible, Rage Against the Machine reverted to stadium rock, Bjork f***ing cancelled, and I generally felt that the vibe of alot of the bands I wanted to see was lost in translation. Paul Kelly and Spoon were really the only redeeming factors of the day for me, but in the end I saw way too many matching fluoro couples to feel comfortable about doing that event ever again!
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« Reply #1 on: 25 Jan 2008, 18:49 »

Well I went too the auckland BDO and it was pretty good, Battles were fucking awsome, As was LCD soundsystem, and some random band that basically consisted of a dude with a keytar and a drummer. Bjork was kinda average but the show was quite entertaining. Most of the main acts (Rage, Arcade etc.) Kinda sucked due too the main stage having absoulute shit sound quality.

It was also entertaining to watch the guy from antagonist abuse the "hardcore kiddies" in the audiance and get stuff throwen at them.

Overall: Worth it for battles
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« Reply #2 on: 25 Jan 2008, 19:20 »

Good to see you back again, bells!

I'm going to the Melbourne show on Monday. Basically the only reason I'm going is to see the Arcade Fire, and I'm disappointed that they've put them on in a daytime slot. Looking through the running order there doesn't really seem to be much reason to get there before mid-afternoon at the latest. I'll be avoiding Rage altogether (too many memories of 17-year-olds shouting "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" in the high-school canteen from way back when . . .) and going to see Paul Kelly, who's on at roughly the same time.

Oh, and I'm looking forward to seeing Billy Bragg, too. Bjork also if she shows up, though I can take it or leave it.
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« Reply #3 on: 25 Jan 2008, 21:25 »

I decided not to go, because I would have only gone to see Rage and Battles. The rest of the lineup was nothing special.
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« Reply #4 on: 25 Jan 2008, 21:56 »

I'd actually stopped going to BDOs because of how much I hate the day. Possibly one of the worst festivals ever. That said, I went this year because I rather liked the lineup.

Billy Bragg followed by Battles was pretty much the highlight of my day.

Although Bragg was playing fairly soon after another politicised acoustic/folk act, the Nightwatchman (Tom Morello from RATM), Billy Bragg upstaged him. Parts of the crowd were openly hostile towards Bragg. I never thought I'd see someone abused for giving an anti-war, pro-union speech at BDO, considering it used to be the festival for "alternative" music and people in Australia. I suppose it's a different kind of thing these days.

Battles were great, and I danced my arse off. They had the best sound I'd heard all day. The drums were right up in the mix, showing off some of the tightest beats I've heard in a while.

I wasn't fussed about missing Bjork, as I saw her play the Opera House- it was easily one of the best gigs I've ever seen.

Dizzee Rascal wasn't as good as I was hoping- not enough emphasis on the beats, IMO.

I probably won't go next year.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #5 on: 26 Jan 2008, 23:01 »

indeed, i have been on a hiatus living in a hut with no power and only my camera to keep me warm at night! it wasn't easy but it was definitely worth it. but that probably explains why i had such misgivings about the crowd and the event in general. arcade fire had a nighttime spot just because the replaced bjork, but i was disappointed nonetheless.

though you do make a good point, battles were phenomenal and they had great sound quality considering the venue. billy bragg was enjoyable but there were altogether too many dickheads reacting to his set! it was a bit too much irony for me to watch 15,000 people yelling 'fuck you i won't do what you told me' in unison so i too skipped it to see paul kelly. and i will repeat, he played a great set. not to mention, dan kelly's hair was looking to top form. how does he get the coif just right? that question will plague me for at least the rest of the year until i learn his secret.

inlander, i meant to let you know that mojo juju played not one but 3 sets in melbourne last week, but alas i was so far out of contact! they have an album to launch soon so they will be back.

i'm also rather upset because i had a free ticket to bjork at the opera house but piked out due to "fatigue". how lame is that! but i don't doubt it was a great show, i had my mate turn up at me door the next day preaching the good word far and wide. bastard.
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« Reply #6 on: 27 Jan 2008, 21:52 »

i go to big day out every year, and i've never failed to have a good time.  Arcade Fire were amazing, i had a ball at rage, Regurgitator were quite simply amazing and i took part in boxwars, which was both stupid and a load of fun.

that said there were very few bands that i honestly cared about.  I was annoyed that i didnt get to see bjork, but only because i wanted to see her and im not a big enough fan to shell out for a solo show.  I also have a problem with a headline act not having released any new material in, like five years and the immense ticket prices.  that said, i have never had a "bad" time at big day out.  calling it the worst festival in the world i dont think is entirely justified (i know its an opininon) when its the only time a lot of bands one would like to see are in one place.  admittedly, its been getting worse
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« Reply #7 on: 28 Jan 2008, 00:02 »

You mean other than that album she released last year that seemed to draw a whole lot of attention?
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« Reply #8 on: 28 Jan 2008, 02:38 »

I think he may have actually been referring to rage against the machine, and yes i do agree their reformation/inflated ticket prices/stadium rock tour perplexed me a little. i'm afraid i've had it a little too good lately and have been getting too used to free tickets to various events (case in point: a friend of mine rather talented in the area of freeloading has managed to see half the sydney festival and set up camp at the spiegeltent with minimum spendage...i am closely following their footsteps). i should really think about weaning myself off that habit soon because its becoming embarassing complaining about prices in public whenever i do have to pay. i sound like my father, and i am a girl. this is not a good(or attractive) thing. :-/

it is also making me lazy, as i mentioned before, so i was not nearly as fastidious about seeing things that i probably should have seen, like supporting local bands earlier on in the day when i was drinking beer in an air conditioned dressing room. seriously, who can sit in air conditioning at the big day out? i have shamed myself and the grand tradition of summer festivals. it really is getting worse though. i know i used to enjoy it and was oddly satisfied with my aching legs, sunburnt shoulders and matted sweaty hair on the terrifying train trip home but this year i found myself thinking it wasn't worth the effort. am i getting too old for this stuff? i'm not even 20 yet! perhaps my tastes are just too refined for the flag+watermelon helmet-wearing fluoro-clad aussie-bogan-knobheads who were so prolific on the day. just a thought.
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« Reply #9 on: 28 Jan 2008, 14:19 »

I went with my housemate to the Melbourne Big Day Out yesterday. It was quite enjoyable! Dickheadery seemed to be at a minimum, which was most welcome, although as my housemate pointed out this may have been largely because we avoided the bars and most of the major acts. The weather was good: only around 28 degrees, and with a cool breeze blowing regularly throughout the day. One notable feature was the sheer size of the site: it was at Flemington Racecourse for the first time, and this had several side-effects. Firstly, there was a lot of walking in the day: to get, for instance, from the main stage to the Boiler Room was at least a ten-minute walk. Secondly, there was very little bleeding of sound from one stage to the next, because they were all so far apart. Thirdly, once you got away from a stage it wasn't too crowded: you could actually walk with complete freedom from one stage to another without being jostled or hassled, which was nice. Fourth and most importantly, because you had to go out of your way to get to any given stage, there was almost no spill-over of audience from one act to another. So we had none of the problems you Sydney folk had at Billy Bragg - in fact, after he sand "There Is Power In a Union" a section of the crowd even broke into a spontaneous chant of "The workers united will never be defeated"!

As for the music: Braggy was in great form, and it was terrific to see him keeping it old-school with just him and his electric guitar. He's never shied away from expressing his opinions without hesitation from the stage, and it was really interesting and uplifting hearing him talk about the recent Australian election. Billy Bragg was actually the first act of the day that I really wanted to see - at 4 o'clock! But we got there early and checked out a couple of other acts to pass the time: we went to see Dizzee Rascal, for as long as we could take the heat in the Boiler Room, anyway: I gave up quicker than my housemate, I must confess, as I could just handle the heat but when somebody lit up a cigarette next to us it was too much for me to bear. I went outside and listened to the set from the relative comfort of just outside the tent. I would have liked to be able to hear the lyrics more clearly, as it seems to me that this is one of the main reasons to listen to somebody like Dizzee Rascal. We didn't stay to the end of the set, because my housemate got sick of the heat in the Boiler Room, too, and we went to get some ice-creams. After that I dragged my housemate to see Spoon, not in the expectation that either of us would enjoy ourselves but rather because, having been profoundly nonplussed by them the first time I'd heard them, I wanted to give them a second chance because so many people rave about them. Alas my nonplussment could not be abated: what is it with this band? Why do people like them so much? I just don't understand! After a few songs I turned to my housemate and asked her: "Is this doing anything for you?" "No" she replied, "they're really boring." Reassured that I was not by myself, adrift in some kind of musical insanity, we gave up on Spoon and continued our journey to see Billy Bragg.

After Braggy, it was across town again to see the Arcade Fire. Sadly in our eagerness we got there early and had to endure the last twenty minutes of Grinspoon's set. We gritted our teeth and put up with it, knowing that it would surely be worth the punishment. Fortunately, the Arcade Fire were every bit as amazing as everybody had said they would be: the sound quality was good, they played a good selection of songs (although "Wake Up" seemed slightly out-of-place as the opener), and in general my only regret was that I couldn't see the stage clearly enough to watch them all running around. "Haiti" was a highlight, as it's one of my favourite songs of theirs. It was also nice to see Win Butler getting into the audience to belt out some of "Wake Up". One mystery, though: they had a large set of organ pipes at the back of the stage, and a keyboard that somebody played and which produced an impressive noise during "Intervention", but from the glimpses I got it didn't seem that the two were actually connected. Were the pipes just decorative? Was the impressive sound just sampled and synthesized?

After the Arcade Fire we dashed across town again but only managed to catch the last minute-and-a-half of Battles - which I wasn't overly disappointed about, as after the massive sound of the Arcade Fire my poor jangled ears needed a bit of a rest. Then we finally managed to meet up with some friends I'd been playing 'phone tag with all day, and we all went back to the main stage to see Bjork. This time the crappy band we had to put up with while we waited was silverchair. Other than noting that Daniel Johns is looking alarmingly like Jason Akermanis these days, the experience was wholly unremarkable. Bjork's set duly started, which was a relief to all, and she was very polite, repeatedly thanking the audience, wishing them "Good afternoon", and apologising for not being able to sing very well at the moment. After one exuberant song she commented: "I can't sing, but I can jump". It was an enjoyable enough set, although to be honest I find Bjork's music to be rather wall-like: with a very few exceptions, it doesn't seem to reach out to try to make a connection with the listener, or not with this one anyway, but instead it's just kind of there, and you take it or leave it. Still, she gets some serious novelty points not only for having a whole brass section on stage with her but not a single stringed instrument of any kind, but also for the seriously weird touch-screen and other strange device shenanigans that one of her musicians was getting up to: in particular there was some kind of weird circular table thing, which was a screen, and which had a whole bunch of blocks with different symbols on them arrayed around the edge, and he'd pick off blocks with great eagerness and place them on the screen and the blocks would start communicating with each other, or something, and then he'd turn the blocks and . . . I don't know, it's impossible to describe and I don't even know what if anything it had to do with the music, but it was fascinating to watch and he certainly seemed very dedicated to it!

After Bjork it was time to get the hell out of there before we were overrun by Rage Against the Machine fans. My friends went home, while my housemate and I trekked back to the other side of the site to see Paul Kelly. I was hoping for some nice gentle acoustic stuff after the Bjork's big beats, but he was in full band mode instead. It worked well with "From Little Things Big Things Grow", which was the first song he played and which started with just him and his guitar, before the band came on one member at a time, gradually building up the musical layers until the song finished fleshed out by the whole band. "Dumb Things" was also great. Then things got a bit weird when Kelly introduced the band and my housemate realised she knew one of the musicians. (We were sitting down, so she hadn't been able to see him). It was about 9:30 by that stage, though, and it'd got cold, and we were both tired and we wanted to beat the rush to the train station, so we left, with only our memories, our ringing ears, and a thin layer of dust coating each of us.

Non-musical highlights of the day:

- Not having to queue, even for a minute, to get in, even though we had bags that had to be searched (we'd both expected to have to wait at least half an hour);
- Having a "high on life" moment during the Arcade Fire's set when I suddenly realised how utterly bizarre and amazing the sky is;
- Watching a bunch of fifteen-year-olds rush the stage when Paul Kelly started his set;
- Also during Paul Kelly's set, my housemate asking me: "Can you feel the earth moving"? and realising that yes, the earth was moving. At first I thought it was because of Rage Against the Machine over on the main stage, but it stopped shortly even though Rage continued and I'm now convinced that it was an extremely minor earth tremor, of the kind that happens from time to time in Australia.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #10 on: 28 Jan 2008, 14:31 »

Sounds like you had a much better day than I did!

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in particular there was some kind of weird circular table thing, which was a screen, and which had a whole bunch of blocks with different symbols on them arrayed around the edge, and he'd pick off blocks with great eagerness and place them on the screen and the blocks would start communicating with each other, or something, and then he'd turn the blocks and . . . I don't know, it's impossible to describe and I don't even know what if anything it had to do with the music, but it was fascinating to watch and he certainly seemed very dedicated to it!

That device is called the ReacTable, and is definitely my New Favourite Instrument after I saw it used at the Opera House. It's pretty much the most innovative interface for a synth I've ever seen.

ReacTable demo video

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« Reply #11 on: 28 Jan 2008, 15:49 »

I wanted to get into the D to watch Arcade Fire and Bjork, but I didn't get there early enough. I lined up for about 45 minutes, during 30 minutes of Grinspoon's set and 15 minutes of the Arcade Fire's set. I got totally crushed. I was right at the front of the queue by the end of my time in it, and there was literally no freedom of movement because we were crushed so tightly by dickheads at the back pushing forward the whole time. These two girls were trying to get out, they were one person away from the barrier out of the queue and were still stuck for 10 minutes. I got right under the green lights to go in but because of the way the crowd moved, I got stuck between the fence, the stairs for people to climb out of the queue and a giant impenetrable wall of people moving in, so I couldn't get back into the moving part of the queue. At this point I decided I had enough so I jumped out and got ready to watch Battles play. I was really disappointed at how they handled this. They didn't seem to have any security managing the queues at all, just in the barrier around the D. It probably would've been easier to get in by jumping the fences than lining up. Two years ago, there was none of these dangerous crowd density problems in the queue. Did anybody get in the D to see these bands? How long did you have to line up? I'm super jealous of my friends who went in 3 hours earlier and was right at the front for both of them. He rates Arcade Fire as by far the most amazing show he's seen.

Anyway, highlights of my day were Mountains In The Sky, Gameboy/Gamegirl, Battles and LCD Soundsystem.

Mountains In The Sky were early on, and a real lucky guess to watch. They were pretty much amazing. I can't wait to see them again in a more intimate setting, where the crowd is there to see them. They had two members, a drummer and a guy playing Moog synth and a MIDI Controller. Their music- sample loops/noise and warm synths layering shoegaze-esque textures with loud and heavy hip hop beats. What's there not to like? The textures and dynamics they built were awesome, I think there was a lot of improv/jamming and the drummer had sweet skills for it.

Gameboy/Gamegirl are perhaps one of my favourite Melbourne live bands. funfunfunfunfunfunfunfun

Battles were pretty good, but I couldn't hear some of the guitar lines very well. I'm not all that much into them. Also I was kinda worn out from the D line, which was a much more intense experience.

LCD Soundsystem! I was feeling pretty crap by this point of the night after missing the Arcade Fire (who were the band I most wanted to see) but LCD fixed it, sort of. Anyway, they had an amazing band. I'm not going to remember any of the songs really (I hadn't really heard him much before BDO) but the energy was overflowing, infectious. Songs I'd heard before but didn't like (Daft Punk is playing at my house) were very enjoyable live. Also the Boiler Room has pretty lights.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #12 on: 28 Jan 2008, 16:02 »

ReacTable links

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

For some reason I forgot L.C.D. Soundsystem were playing. Oh well, I'm not familiar with any of their music anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: 28 Jan 2008, 16:03 »

I actually had a really good time cause I'd never been to one before and everyone always says how terrible it is so my expectations were low. The crowd were really good, no people who I wanted to smash in the face. I missed out on LCD and Battles, which was disappointing, cause no one I was with wanted to go to them but I still had a really good time. Rage were surprisingly fun, even though I'm not a fan. Arcade Fire were great- so much energy, and they bagged out Australian TV which is always a good thing. Bjork stole the day though, she made me an instant fan of her music.

So in conclusion I had alot of fun. It was too hot and the dick head security guards kept hosing us down to excess but it was still a fun day.
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« Reply #14 on: 28 Jan 2008, 16:06 »

One mystery, though: they had a large set of organ pipes at the back of the stage, and a keyboard that somebody played and which produced an impressive noise during "Intervention", but from the glimpses I got it didn't seem that the two were actually connected. Were the pipes just decorative? Was the impressive sound just sampled and synthesized?
if you look in the pictures just below i'm fairly sure the organ pipes behind the keyboard is disconnected to this but the thing i've circled in red in teh second picture is what was actually making the organ sounds and then just amplified

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Machine over on the main stage, but it stopped shortly even though Rage continued and I'm now convinced that it was an extremely minor earth tremor, of the kind that happens from time to time in Australia.
as someone who was watching rage instead of paul kelly i can say the earth shaking coincided pretty much with the first song only when everyone was jumping and only started again when everyone started jumping again as they closed with killing in the name of


i'm not sure whether this is true but it seems that we get better sound quality in the "D" than outside it because some of my friends (outside) said that arcade fire sounded bad while those inside thought it was joyous
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« Reply #15 on: 28 Jan 2008, 16:11 »

i'm not sure whether this is true but it seems that we get better sound quality in the "D" than outside it because some of my friends (outside) said that arcade fire sounded bad while those inside thought it was joyous

I reckon that's definitely true.
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« Reply #16 on: 28 Jan 2008, 19:38 »

Re: Mountains in the Sky, I picked up one of their albums, Accipio on a whim after spotting the wierd artwork and vaguely recalling the name from some late night show on a local radio station. It's one of my favourite impulse buys. I'm glad to hear that they're good live and I'm gonnahave to watch out for them coming to Perth. I'll put the album in the mediafire thread when it's done uploading.
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« Reply #17 on: 28 Jan 2008, 20:57 »

The best way to get anywhere in a hurry is too get one of the closed coffee cups and hold it at arms length infront of you as if it is REALLY hot, even the big knobheaded guys get out of the way.
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« Reply #18 on: 28 Jan 2008, 23:52 »

My friend's dad is a guitarist in the Hoodoo Gurus (I know, I know...) and he was at the after party for Bjork's opera house gig; apparently her peeps were hiding her coke from her by midnight and for the rest of the night she was just running around crazy sneaking lines in the bathrooms et al. And she was still the wasted party girl till around 7am...which is of course why she cancelled the Big Day Out show. That made me disappointed in her, in a "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" parenting kind of way.

I have to say, the sound quality for Rage was actually really good from up high in the stadium, while it was shit for Arcade Fire in the same spot... maybe they just translate differently (who am I kidding, of course they do). In general I wasn't impressed with the sound engineers at sydney. They need a stern talking to!

And part of the reason I wanted to see Bjork was so I could check out that ReacTable thing, I'm so disappointed! what a cool instrument/synth thing.
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« Reply #19 on: 29 Jan 2008, 00:35 »

My friend's dad is a guitarist in the Hoodoo Gurus (I know, I know...)

I used to know a Mickey Grossman, said his dad was the Richard Grossman.
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« Reply #20 on: 29 Jan 2008, 02:07 »

I am seriously considering day/two-day trips away from Sydney for future BDOs.  There are so many goddamn fucking bogans at the Sydney BDO and it's ruining the fuck out of it more and more each year.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 Jan 2008, 01:44 »

ohogoag battles battles battles

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« Reply #22 on: 30 Jan 2008, 03:17 »

Dude, Melbourne BDO sounds like the way to go. At Sydney its always so hot and crowded, with a whole lot of bogans and dumb chicks hurrying between the mainstages and the boiler room so they don't miss the bands they've been hearing on the radio that year. I honestly heard two girls having a conversation that went something like:

'So, like, what are dinosaurs?'
'Well, they're those big dead lizards, you know.'
'Right... so, what about those elephants with tusks?'
'Woolly mammoths?' -[they must be on the same retarded wavelength because at that point i was thinking 'yeah...elephants.']
'Are they dinosaurs?'

AGRNHGHHHH.

Sydney really must be the worst of the lot, as I've heard mostly good things about all the others. Well, in comparison anyway. And Melbourne got some wicked local acts too! Sydney got Bridezilla and Dappled Cities Fly. Repeat after me: hype is not alright.
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« Reply #23 on: 30 Jan 2008, 03:53 »

Well, we all know the formula for all things: Melbourne >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sydney
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« Reply #24 on: 01 Feb 2008, 17:15 »

And a decent formula that thing is too. I live in Melbourne, but spend way too much time in Sydney so I get ongoing contrasts between the two cities and believe me, Melbs wins out with pretty much everything, Harbour Bridge or no.

It just struck me how much a part of the system the whole event has become, its sorta sad. I mean you have events like Festival of the Sun in Port Macquarie or High and Dry near St Albans where I spent new years, and they're both BYO events so you can camp for a couple of days and listen to some good music and have a genuinely relaxing and enjoyable time without hardly ever reaching for your wallet (I spent a grand total of $10 over 5 days when High and Dry was on). Then you have there big monolithic events like Big Day Out that had such a counter-cultural push when they started but slowly (and somewhat insidiously) became so much a part of the mainstream that I'm no longer fighting off goths and weirdos in the moshpit, I'm fighting off rugby players wearing headbands and lycra. They have sniffer dogs every year now (I guess that can't really be helped) and they make millions off the bars each tour, not to mention merchandise and the fees they charge so people can set up stalls...
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« Reply #25 on: 01 Feb 2008, 17:26 »

High and Dry near St Albans where I spent new years.

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How good was that festival!

My ladyfriend is part of the figure8 crew, so I was up there for a week or so attempting to help out. Beautiful place.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #26 on: 01 Feb 2008, 18:07 »

It just struck me how much a part of the system the whole event has become

Hell, for the Melbourne Big Day Out they had a whole platform at Flinders Street station set aside for trains ferrying punters to and from the site!
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #27 on: 02 Feb 2008, 18:00 »

Haha, yes so they can all make their way to the big music event safely and get home with no worries at all; there are so many aspects of the government that are involved in the smooth operation of the day that all the risk and excitement has been drained out through its many orifices. It used to be sort of fun to try and cram as many people into a van trying to find your way out to the showgrounds, and that year when the dudes came up through the sewer system was great but its become so safe and organised, making it pretty much impossible to breed any kind of independent culture or integrity.

In a huge contrast, High and Dry was amazing, it was more like a holiday than a music festival. Everyone was so laid back they were practically horizontal, I saw virtually no rubbish and I swam in the river for about 5 hours a day! It sorta reminded me of Meredith in terms of the one main stage, except I must admit I liked that location a whole lot more. Serious kudos to the various organisers for doing such a bang-up job. Right near where i was camping these guys had just set up a soundsystem and were playing and eclectic mix of great obscure tunes all day, so we hardly even needed to venture into the main part, unless we or our friends were playing. Blissful.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #28 on: 03 Feb 2008, 18:02 »

I went to the Perth BDO yesterday. Unfortunately it turned out to be a 35+ degree day so I didn't even show up until 4 o'clock for Battles (who were amazing). Then straight to the Arcade Fire to wait for 45 minutes to get into the D barrier (incidentally, wtf was with that thing? Last time I went, which was in '04, entry to and from still consisted of a line but they weren't so blatantly retarded as to give the blue and orange stages a joint D barrier!?! Worst idea ever, the whole thing was filled with Rage fans from the get-go).

Arcade Fire were great, but their show seemed to suffer from the poor sound quality that has been complained about after pretty much every other BDO this year. And it was unfair that the sound coming from the blue stage was so good! Silverchair and Grinspoon did not deserve it. I also nearly passed out due to the heat/dehydration and had to flee the moshpit halfway through the set. :-(

Finally Bjork to finish the night off, but I wasn't game to brave the D barrier again and stayed well outside of the crowd. Which is a pity as her set was fantastic, even from 80 metres away. It's a pity to hear about her coke-ing it up before the Sydney show; she must have disappointed a lot of fans.

All in all, the bands I came specifically to see didn't disappoint, but it was unfortunate that the weather was so awfully hot that I just didn't feel at all inclined to wander around and check out any of the other acts on that day. Also, never before have I seen such a horrid congregation of bogans as there were waiting for Rage to start. It seems like a good 70% of the people who bought tickets this year were just hanging out for those guys.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #29 on: 03 Feb 2008, 22:16 »

Once again, people standing around waiting for the big (overhyped, painfully mediocre) band missed the best band of the night. (RATM were fine I guess but the real stars were...

LCD Soundsystem were fucking on fire, and it didn't hurt they had pretty much all of the Arcade Fire on stage with them at various parts of the set. When they played All My Friends the place damn near melted into a big ole emotional meatpile of people. As incredible and heartbreaking James Murphy's performance of that on the album is, he really poured himself into it live.

Also it was James Murphy's birthday and he gave a wonderful little speech and then played New York I Love You(!). Roadies handed him two bouquets of flowers and he threw them one-by-one into the crowd. Then Regine from Arcade Fire and Bjork sang happy birthday to him.


Overall the sound was generally pretty crap. Battles was woeful on the sound front, just horrible balance between the instruments, shame, because they were very good otherwise, particularly Stanier, who looked like he was trying to turn his drumkit into sawdust. That being said, at least it was a decent volume this year. Last year some sets were just ridiculously quiet, to the point of being able to perfectly understand what people were saying to me, standing a few feet away. That shouldn't happen at a goddamned rock concert, guys.

On a slightly tangential note, fuck moshing. Yesterday I didn't mosh, and I felt excellent at the end of the day. Ususally I can barely stand up at the end pf the Big Day Out. This time I walked 5km home (the trains were too damn crowded and I just couldn't be bothered having my face in someone's armpit for an hour on the train.)


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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #30 on: 04 Feb 2008, 01:25 »

LCD Soundsystem were fucking on fire, and it didn't hurt they had pretty much all of the Arcade Fire on stage with them at various parts of the set. When they played All My Friends the place damn near melted into a big ole emotional meatpile of people. As incredible and heartbreaking James Murphy's performance of that on the album is, he really poured himself into it live.

Wow. I wish Arcade Fire crashed LCD's set at the Melbourne show. Would've slightly made up for not really seeing them earlier...
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #31 on: 04 Feb 2008, 01:34 »

I posted a link in the Mediafire thread to a bootleg of the show they played at the Enmore on the 22nd. It's probably the best of the shows they played here this year. The sound quality at the enmore is far better than the BDO show.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #32 on: 05 Feb 2008, 21:51 »

If someone starts acting like Daniel Johns, you should pity them rather than hate them.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #33 on: 05 Feb 2008, 22:16 »

I had all these people telling me to watch Arcade Fire cos they were some great band and I'd love them, but it was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They swapped instruments nearly every song! ...They all seemed to be a bit lame at a hundred instruments each instead of being really skilled with just one!

Is this honestly your reason for not liking their live set? Perhaps it was all the material off the last record, or the fact that they're taking themselves a lot more seriously nowadays. You know, as Artists.

I saw them a couple of years back and it was really incredible. I think by expecting them all to be musical polymaths you might have missed the point. They are all skilled at just one, but they mix it up because they like a diverse range of tones and sounds. Besides, it's a lot more fun for you and, generally speaking, your audience if you do something that's a bit more of a challenge for you, especially when you're at the stage of your career that Arcade Fire are at.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #34 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:25 »

I heard a mega-Bruce Sprinsteen influence in Arcade Fire in the live set (as opposed to their albums), which was both surprising and pleasing!

All in all I think we might just have to accept that the BDO is a pretty ordinary day and no one likes being pushed around in 35 degree weather with no shade + smelling like beer (because people always slosh their drinks around after they've had a few). But there were some perks. Like chatting to the boys from Sugartime Cabaret... mmmm :) I don't think I'd buy a ticket, or even really consider going again but its good to know that the tour often eventuates in side shows for most of the artists.

I hate Daniel Johns. And Silverchair. I'm sort of from Newcastle and its rather compulsory to support them but seriously, no freakin' way. He's a dick. I'd rather support The Seabellies and Mojo Juju, they're coming up in the ranks and kick Silverchair's butt any day of the week. Ergo B Bag too, that band rules :) Speaking of Ergo though, we just got the support for Datarock in March!
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #35 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:36 »

Is this honestly your reason for not liking their live set? Perhaps it was all the material off the last record, or the fact that they're taking themselves a lot more seriously nowadays. You know, as Artists.

They didn't seem to be taking themselves seriously to me. William Butler was still acting like a fool, all climbing the rigging and jumping over keyboards and bangin his drum, Regine was dancing around and just generally having about as much fun onstage as anyone I've seen (she is a hard-rockin lady, folks), and Win was charming as all hell. Most of the rest of the band smiled and joked through the entire set.

I'm guessing Scarlette probably went expecting to not like it and got exactly that. Expectations tend to be self-fulfilling like that, I've found.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #36 on: 09 Feb 2008, 00:23 »

It's heartening to hear that as a description of one of their recent concerts. Literally every review of a live Arcade Fire set I've read since Neon Bible came out painted this picture of a band who are trying way too hard to transcend the music of us mere mortals. I'm really glad you caught a set where they were human.
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Re: Big Day Out '08 - the verdict?
« Reply #37 on: 09 Feb 2008, 00:35 »

They certainly seemed human to me, looked like they were having a blast. i thought they were fantastic actually. Win had such a commanding presence, and the crowd seemed to love him as much as he was enjoying being with us. i actually thought it was the most "humble" performance I saw all day. They didn't have the arrogant air of bands like Rage or Midnight Juggernauts, where you got the vibe they thought it was such a massive privelage for you to see them- they all just aced as  though they were part of the crowd having a kickin time.
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