Topic: Heroic film deaths! (Might contain FILM ****SPOILERS*****) (Read 25368 times)

LiterSize · « **on:** 05 Apr 2006, 14:43 »

What are some fave deaths from the cinema? heroic and whatnot.

Leon from The Professional?
Obi-wan kenobi?
Boromir?
Data?
Bruce Willis in Armageddon? (STOP THROWING STUFF AT ME!)
Vasquez in "Aliens"?

Discuss![/i]

Kirbo · « **Reply #1 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 14:58 »

Donnie Darko- Donnie Darko
Mr. Orange (Freddie Newandyke)- Reservoir Dogs
The Snakes- Snake on a Plane

soap · « **Reply #2 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 15:39 »

Quote from: LiterSize

Boromir

that was gonna be my suggestion

erm, lets see... ah ! the iron giant !
(but he got better in the end)

chupones · « **Reply #3 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 16:12 »

Chupones' top 5 heroic movie deaths (of films he's seen, excluding LiterSize's excellent suggestions...)

5. Cold Mountain
4. Amen
3. Life is Beautiful
2. Braveheart
1. Gladiator

Gryff · « **Reply #4 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 16:12 »

Vasquez is a good one. Neo in Matrix Revolutions?

Uhm... Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic (please don't throw things at me - it was a shitty film, but he did die heroically)

soap · « **Reply #5 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 16:39 »

dillon in alien3 was pretty heroic in that classic self sacrifice kind of way

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #6 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 16:43 »

I'd say about 75% heroic and 150% badass would be Sgt. Elias Grodin (Willem Dafoe) in Platoon.

nescience · « **Reply #7 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 16:48 »

Jack Vincennes in L.A. Confidential. So jarring! And his last words are pure redemption.

Oli · « **Reply #8 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 17:48 »

Mr. Crowe in Gladiator.

lordjim · « **Reply #9 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 18:19 »

John Wayne in The Cowboys
David Carradine in Kill Bill v.2

The entire American Idol cast and crew in this years season finale
I can dream can't I?

M3gaBigh · « **Reply #10 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 18:28 »

Quote from: Gryff

Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic (please don't throw things at me - it was a shitty film, but he did die heroically)

It would've been more heroic if he'd died sooner.

That guy · « **Reply #11 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 20:04 »

Me and my friends call this a "Blaze of Glory". Most notably of these include:

Leon - The Professional (I know this was mentioned before, but still)
John W. Creasy - Man on Fire
Nameless - Hero
Li Mu Bai - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Spike - Cowboy Bebop (I'm not a big anime fan, but this one is pretty good)
Ah Jong - The Killer

And a bunch of others that no one has ever heard of, Rocco in Boondock Siants for example.

The one and only "Blaze of Glory" belongs to your hero and mine......

Optiums Prime - Transformers: the Movie

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #12 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 20:47 »

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And a bunch of others that no one has ever heard of, Rocco in Boondock Siants for example.

??? It's rediculously popular. Everyone knows the Boondock Saints.

soap · « **Reply #13 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 20:50 »

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Optiums Prime - Transformers: the Movie

how could i forget that !?

another classic - the end of terminator 2, with the thumb *sob*

Ravenbomb · « **Reply #14 on:** 05 Apr 2006, 21:05 »

to some, Hassan's death in The War Within would be heroic (not me, but it would certainly be considered heroic to him)

Omnicide · « **Reply #15 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 06:21 »

Leon for sure, with Stansfield's "Shit!" making his one of the funniest.

Spartacus, anyone?

Also: Le Samurai- spectacular French filick about a hitman who lives according to the smaurai code. Track it down if you can.

Kirbo · « **Reply #16 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 06:29 »

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Donnie Darko didn't have a choice about dying. The tangent universe was going to collapse anyway.

Donnie however did have the choice to save the lives of his girlfriend, mother, and arguably sister.

LiterSize · « **Reply #17 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 12:23 »

As far as I'm concerned, Alien 3 didn't happen. That's just how it is to me. I was kinda pissed at how they killed Newt and Hicks, especially after he had been such a badass in the last film (before the whole acid spray and what have you.)

Hmm... butch cassidy and the sundance kid?

Jedit · « **Reply #18 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 15:33 »

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Donnie Darko didn't have a choice about dying. The tangent universe was going to collapse anyway.

Yeah, but he died after the Tangent Universe collapsed. If Donnie hadn't thought it was all a crazy dream brought on by his meds or the not taking thereof, he could have got out of the room before the engine hit.

(We also know that the Living Receiver doesn't automatically get splattered after their purpose has been served, because for Roberta Sparrow to write her book she must either have been a Living Receiver herself or talked to someone who had been one - my money being on the former.)

soap · « **Reply #19 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 15:39 »

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Litersize, now you can pretend Alien 3 DID happen.

don't have time to read it now ... but can i assume that hicks is suitably awesome in it ?
he really is one of, if not the, best character in the franchise

soap · « **Reply #20 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 16:22 »

Quote from: Spinless

Ripley spends her time during the screen play in a coma

Hicks and Bishop become the lead characters.

i'm sold

Jedit · « **Reply #21 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 16:24 »

Quote from: soap

Quote from: Spinless
Litersize, now you can pretend Alien 3 DID happen.

don't have time to read it now ... but can i assume that hicks is suitably awesome in it ?

No. It's Gibson's legendary script for Alien 3: This Time It's Completely Fucking Abysmal.

Just to give you some idea of how utterly terrible it is: remember when the Queen impales Bishop on her tail then rips him in half? Well, apparently she laid an egg inside him when she did that, and Ripley didn't even notice when she put him in the sleep tube! Man, those eggs that are the size of a human torso are hard to miss, aren't they?

Narr · « **Reply #22 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 20:58 »

To be honest, I want to see a heroic character die a rather unheroic death for a change. In the novel I plan to write sometime before I leave this world, one of the characters, and probably the best fighter among them, is hit with an arrow through the neck in a volley of arrows when they storm a castle. I mean, the majority of the fighters that raid somewhere are killed by archers, but heroes, who are always on the front line, never seem to be hit even though they'd probably be the first ones aimed at. It's gonna be very inglorious, and very jarring (although not to anyone that reads this.. of course, you don't know my real name! :O)

But, as for Heroic deaaths:

I second Mr. Orange and Spartacus, and raise you Katsumoto in The Last Samurai, and...

JESUS. In any movie ever made about him.

@ Spinless: Jean Grey isn't dead, foo. It's just alluded that she passed on. She is "reborn" as the Phoenix. Wait for X3.

That guy · « **Reply #23 on:** 06 Apr 2006, 22:26 »

Well obviously Jean isn't dead. You see her in the trailers. It would be strange for someone to think that she is alive, but I digress.

I like the idea about the hero dying in the first few minutes of the fight. Sort of like 'The Alamo' when the commander dies early. I generally like when something goes against the grain. It would be very interesting to see this done right. Just remember that when the main bad dude dies, he must go out in a similar manner. Example: beginning of 'Gladiator' when the leader of the Germanic tribe gets killed. I would enjoy it very much.

Jedit · « **Reply #24 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 01:43 »

Quote from: Narr

To be honest, I want to see a heroic character die a rather unheroic death for a change.

In the Buffy finale, Anya is stabbed in the back during a meaningless skirmish. It's over in just a few seconds - no big thing, no drawn out death scene, and none of the series' main characters even sees her fall.

In the same vein, in Moorcock's Hawkmoon novels Oladahn is simply hacked to death, alone and unseen, and in George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire novels quite a number of characters die undignified deaths - off-camera, sometimes.

Would any of those satisfy you?

soap · « **Reply #25 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 01:49 »

i'd like to see something where some absolute nobody has an utterly immense and heroic death ... unfortunately theres no real way someone could manage it with it being stupid funny and a bit shit

LiterSize · « **Reply #26 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 06:43 »

All this talk of Buffy makes me think of Wash... ;_;

To be fair though, death can be quick, meaningless, sudden and for that I give Joss Whedon props.

A sudden non-heroic dumbass death belongs to Steven Seagal, "Executive Decision"

Kirbo · « **Reply #27 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 07:31 »

Random Buffy deaths? Tara.

Happy happy happy, BOOM HEADSHOT!, unhappy.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #28 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 09:38 »

okay, there is only one for this.

13th warrior. Bulvai.

LO THERE DO I SEE MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER
LO THERE DO I SEE MY SISTER AND MY BROTYHER
THEY BID ME TAKE MY PLACE AMONG THEM
IN THE HALLS OF VALHALLA
WHERE THE DEAD SHALL LIVE FOREVER!!!

Face iut, Vikings are cooler than you.

mberan42 · « **Reply #29 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 09:47 »

Quote from: Jedit

in George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire novels quite a number of characters die undignified deaths - off-camera, sometimes.

Getting shot with a crossbow bolt in the crotch while you're takin' a shit is one fuckin' undignified way to die, that's for certain.

(although that character wasn't technically a hero in the terms of this thread.)
edit: added the location of the bolt

JLM · « **Reply #30 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 09:49 »

Selma - Dancer in the Dark (that might actually be most tragic, rather than heroic).

Agreed on Spike. Other heroic anime deaths WARNING - SEVERE SPOILERS:
The Third Hokage - Naruto
Hoenheim of Light - Fullmetal Alchemist: The Movie
Every member of the Shinsengumi who dies in Peacemaker Kurogane

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #31 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:02 »

Jango Fett pisses me off, because George Lucas screwed with the accepted history, and made it far worse. Boba Fett's backstory had been established by Daniel Keys Moran in the Bounty Hunter Tales, and it was incredibly bad ass. Now he's just some cliched kid who saw his father die? Weak!

Kirbo · « **Reply #32 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:33 »

Badass Deaths and Star Wars?

Jabba! Death by Stripper!!!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #33 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:35 »

If we're taking extended universe as Canon, Boba Fett doesn't die there. He crawls out somehow. Possibly after beating the Sarlaac to death from the inside with his bare fists.

Although I didn't like the rest of the film much (I thought both Matrix Sequels were crap), that one captain in the exoskeleton in either reloaded or revolutions who just dies screaming in defiance and shooting endless screams of bullets into the oncoming hordes, that's pretty cool.

13th warrior still takes the cake though.

nescience · « **Reply #34 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:39 »

Quote from: Kirbo

Random Buffy deaths? Tara.

What about ANYA? Bitch gets cut in half and hardly anyone blinks an eye.

Kirbo · « **Reply #35 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:40 »

That was revolutions. That was badass.

LiterSize · « **Reply #36 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:45 »

Second'd on the sergeant. WHO NEVER FINISHED TRAINING.

Khar: that last prayer was indeed awesome in the 13th warrior, and since Antonio Banderas wasn't the one taking on the Big Bad at the end.

Damn, we mentioned optimus prime, right? IRONHIDE.

Let's expand! Anime is riddled with awesome deaths, the 3rd being yes, one of them.

TV shows: Space Above and Beyond: The asian guy in the crippled ship letting loose a flurry of gunfire as the Chigs close in on him.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #37 on:** 07 Apr 2006, 10:50 »

Okay, this isn't heroic at all, but the two most awesome deaths in film existence are, sans doubt:

1: Dr. Strangelove - Riding the bomb
2: Dark Star - Surfing into the atmospjere on a piece of wreckage.

LiterSize · « **Reply #38 on:** 10 Apr 2006, 21:29 »

hmmm.......

Did we mention the Third Hokage from Naruto?

SPOCK! Star Trek is riddled with Heroic Deaths!

JLM · « **Reply #39 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 00:02 »

Except for Kirk's son David, who went out like a little bitch.

I wish they would've done more with the "Section 31" concept they began in DS 9.

Stayc · « **Reply #40 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 00:35 »

Quote from: M3gaBigh

It would've been more heroic if he'd died sooner.

I love you.

How can you guys forget The Outsiders with the deaths of Johnny and Dally.

Omnicide · « **Reply #41 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 01:32 »

Most humiliating death: The two bureaucrats in Brazil.

you know what I'm talking about...

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #42 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 02:25 »

Quote from: KharBevNor

okay, there is only one for this.

13th warrior. Bulvai.

LO THERE DO I SEE MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER
LO THERE DO I SEE MY SISTER AND MY BROTYHER
THEY BID ME TAKE MY PLACE AMONG THEM
IN THE HALLS OF VALHALLA
WHERE THE DEAD SHALL LIVE FOREVER!!!

Face iut, Vikings are cooler than you.

Can we agree on this being the utmost example of Krieg-ness?

Other than that there is every samurai/cowboy killed in Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven. Especially sword master/knife throwing dude.

Shouild we do a thread on badass deaths?

Edit: HOW THE MOTHErFUCKING HELL DID I FORGET MUFASA???????

Omnicide · « **Reply #43 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 02:32 »

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Other than that there is every samurai/cowboy killed in Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven. Especially sword master/knife throwing dude.

Shouild we do a thread on badass deaths?

heroism is badass. in most of these cases. Kikuchiyo's last charge takes the prize in Seven Samurai

beat mouse · « **Reply #44 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 04:49 »

Quote from: Stayc

How can you guys forget The Outsiders with the death of Dally.

you are my kinda lady.

Stayc · « **Reply #45 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 10:35 »

Sweet, cue makeout scene.

LiterSize · « **Reply #46 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 11:21 »

Now if someone can come up with a scene that involved an awesome/heroic death AND makeouts, they win.

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #47 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 11:23 »

Easy, Trinity in Matrix 3. Although I'm not sure it's that heroic.

Quote from: Omnicide

heroism is badass. in most of these cases. Kikuchiyo's last charge takes the prize in Seven Samurai

Yea, but some badass death are not heroic, like Tony Montana's death in Scarface.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #48 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 11:45 »

Darth Vader would have been cooler if he'd topped that nancy boy Luke and never repented.

Trollstormur · « **Reply #49 on:** 11 Apr 2006, 11:47 »

Ugh. I am so tired of star wars.

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