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[Thrillho]

If it wasn't for that one track souring it.

How many albums do you know of that would be fucking awesome except for one shitty song that just seems to ruin the whole mood? I think the biggest example of this is Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. Reservations is unbearably bad. If it ended with Poor Places, it'd be all but perfect.

Other examples:
Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.

Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon - On The Run. I'm sure it's great when you're stoned. But I'm not. Some would say there's an easier solution to that...mine's cheaper.

Weezer - Pinkerton - No Other One - It's a pretty wracked album, but it's wracked and brilliant. No Other One is borderline unlistenable.

Any other albums like this?

[TrueNeutral]

Pearl Jam - Vitalogy

Except... that has three songs souring it. Pry To, Bugs and Long-title Mamma.

I'd probably love Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth if it wasn't for those annoying storytelling Interludes. Okay, I get it, you read The Silmarillion, now please fuck off with that lame sounding Morgoth act. This probably goes for all Blind Guardian, but I wouldn't know, because this is the only one I've heard so far.

[tomselleck69]

I'd probably love Blind Guardian's Nightfall In Middle Earth if it wasn't for those annoying storytelling Interludes.

same.


every song on the barenaked ladies' stunt is a masterpiece, except for "one week."

[jcknbl]

Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.

[Bastardous Bassist]

This probably goes for all Blind Guardian, but I wouldn't know, because this is the only one I've heard so far.

Not in my experience.  Nightfall is the only one with the interludes.

[Thrillho]

Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.

I agree wholeheartedly there. Revolver was, IMO, their best record outside of that.

And you should blame Lennon and McCartney, because they essentially wrote it to sound EXACTLY like you said it sounds.

[Misereatur]

Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.

I love that song, cant imagine that album without it.


Anyway, I dont like Pavement's Cut Your Hair from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. I really dont like it, I allway feel like someone injected suger right into that track.

[karl gambolputty...]

I'm with DynamiteKid on the 'Fitter Happier' thing.  

Also, Cat Power's 'You Are Free' would be my favorite of her albums if not for 'Names'.  There is such a thing as taking the sad thing too far.

[alyosha]

Green Day's "American Idiot"-- THe title track

[valley_parade]

Transatlanticism without "Passenger Seat", or the long ending of "We Looked Like Giants".

It seems like every Death Cab album has that ONE song with the unneeded two minute breakdown.

[Omnicide]

'We Will Fall' off The Stooge's first album. ten minutes of dreary psychedelia.

Is it me or would Houses of The Holy be Led eppelin's best album if D'yer Maker was replaced with any other track?

Oh and Re-occuring Dreams of Husker Du's Zen Arcade. The 14 minute final track. A wee bit self-indulgent?

Come to think of it, what album doesn't have at least one sub-par track (sparing older albums with only six tracks)? Meh, nothing's flawless.

[jcknbl]

And you should blame Lennon and McCartney, because they essentially wrote it to sound EXACTLY like you said it sounds.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure it was written for Ringo and based on something he said on acid. I guess I'll blame everyone but George.

Another album

Elliott Smith- s/t -Alphabet Town: Its not that its unlistenable it just feels like filler. Theres nothing catchy or memorable about it.

[nobody]

Come to think of it, what album doesn't have at least one sub-par track (sparing older albums with only six tracks)? Meh, nothing's flawless.

i think the beatles american version of rubber soul is pretty flawless, especially if you get the DESS mono version of it. also nmh's aeroplane over the sea i think is great and cohesive, would be lessened by any track removed

well, mebbe it would flow better without the accordian led untitled instrumental, but i still enjoy it

[Kid Modernist]

The Merry Blues, the first track off of Manu Chao's Proxima Estacion: Esperanza. I always thought the album was much less talented than his first (Clandestino), but I found out if you don't listen to the first song it is a complete continuation of awesomeness.

[chamberk]

I always definitely think that way about Pinkerton and "No Other One".

And I know it's blasphemy, but Sun King is the only song on Abbey Road that I don't actively love.

[Kai]

Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:

I guess I'll blame everyone but George.

THis is how it should be. All the time.

[PhunkieBehaveYer]

Beatles-Revolver-Yellow Submarine. Maybe its just me. And its probably awesome if you have a bunch of drunk people singing it. Still, this song is terribly mediocre for the Beatles. I blame Ringo.

I always thought that "For No One" was the week one off Revolver.

[Bastardous Bassist]

Experimental is fine, but just plain stupid stuff to link plot is not.  Good operas have very few stupid bits just for the sake of plot, concept albums should be the same, damnit.  If you can't come up with a good song to say what you want to say, then don't do the goddamned concept album.  Queensryche, I'm looking at you and "Suite Sister Mary."  God damn I dislike that song.  It sounds like an Andrew Lloyd Webber song.

[Spartan Pho3nix]

Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:

I guess I'll blame everyone but George.

THis is how it should be. All the time.

Bullcrap. Sun King in unbearable. Get rid of that trash and you have a perfect album.

[Storm Rider]

Testament - The Gathering - Alliegance.

Seriously guys, you were SO CLOSE to finally making an album better than The New Order. So very, very close.

[Kai]

Oh please. If there's one song on Abbey Road that needs to die, it's definitely Mr. Octopus' Garden.


also:

I guess I'll blame everyone but George.

THis is how it should be. All the time.

Bullcrap. Sun King in unbearable. Get rid of that trash and you have a perfect album.

See, I thought Sun King really fit well and I generally don't remember having any beef with it at all. I cringe with Octopus' Garden. I cringe with most of the songs Ringo sings on though.

[Omnicide]

On Abbey Road, I'd take Octopus' Garden over Maxwell's bloody Silver Hammer anyday.

[Houdinimachine]

I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Edit: I had the wrong song. I like everything on Abbey Road except Her Majesty which doesn't belong at all.

[beat mouse]

Testament - The Gathering - Alliegance.

Seriously guys, you were SO CLOSE to finally making an album better than The New Order. So very, very close.

I wasn't sure how you could say this, but now that i put it on, i realize i zone out everytime it comes on when i listen to the album.

Three 6 Mafia - Intro/Outro/Skit anything that involves Project Pat and DJ Paul trying to advertise their movies and cds. that shit kills every ounce of gangsta mood in the room.

[Omnicide]

I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

GAH!

Worse than Obla-Di-Obla-Blah


Oh and Horse Latitudes off Strange Days by The Doors. It's their best album but what the fuck was THAT?

[Rubby]

I love Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

Edit: I had the wrong song. I like everything on Abbey Road except Her Majesty which doesn't belong at all.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Are you insane? That song is like the bow on the top of a wonderful present the Beatles have wrapped up for you.

[Zaarin]

Oh and Horse Latitudes off Strange Days by The Doors. It's their best album but what the fuck was THAT?

Yes, absolutely. It's Jim Morrison at his pretentious worst.

I think "Flying" from the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour is another weak track. I mean, it's nice, but it's probably for the best that it was one of the only instrumentals the Fab Four ever did.

And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

[Luke C]

Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.

I hate that song. why put it on an album?

[Omnicide]

Radiohead - OK Computer - Fitter, Happier. I don't care if the song is conceptually brilliant. It sucks to listen to.

I hate that song. why put it on an album?

It's not a song for fuck's sake, it's an mood piece for the album. No more than 'speak to me' off Dark Side of The Moon is a song. It's a sum-up of the album's themes of isolation and dehmanisation through technology, or something similar. It's not a song, don't listen to it as if it is one. Just listen to the lyrics, it's the track that sums up what tOK COmputer's all about.

[Hat]

Radiohead - Amnesiac - Pulk Pull Revolving Doors:

This is the perfect example of a terrible "song" completely ruining the entire album. I love the first two songs, and the fact that the third is so bad renders the rest of the album totally unlistenable to me, even if I skip the track. There are some songs I quite like afterwards, but I imagine I'd like them more if I didn't have to skip over track 3 every goddamned time

The Beatles - Sgt Peppers - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds:

I actually heard a version of this that didn't totally suck on the radio at work a few years ago. I know it exists. It was awesome. The album version just makes me want to punch people. I dont know where the other version was from. Anyone know about this? Am I crazy?

Also, maybe I'm just weird, but my favorite tracks on Abbey Road are Come Together, Octopusses Garden, and Maxwell Silver Hammer. Just putting that out there, for you jive suckahs.

Spiderbait - Grandslam - By The Time I Get To Howlong

This is my favorite Spiderbait album by far, and a favorite album of all time easily, but this one song bugs me. It's not a terrible song, but it just bugs me how much better it would be if Buster just went straight into Stevie.

[blanko blanco]

I like this topic very much. Makes for a good read.

Offhand I can't think of any albums that fit for me, except I would somewhat agree with the person who said "Cut Your Hair" from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. I usually skip it.

[alyosha]

You know, I didn't post that LSD ruined Sgt. Pepper, because I didn't think anyone would agree.  But the song completely breaks the mood.  I guess it was more an experiment in psychodelia than anything else, though.  As a single, it's not so bad, but it doesn't belong on the album.

I also think that "Octopuses Garden" was a great track. As to the other Beatles songs being criticized--  We have to remember that, though they were an amazing progressive rock band, the Beatles were, first and foremost, a Pop-rock band.  While they chose to experiment, they still tried to stick to their roots.

As to an album that is completely perfect:

I know this band has gotten a lot of flack around here, and I'm not saying that they are the best band ever, or even that the album is all that influential or progressive, but it IS the best flowing, most consistent, best mood-keeping album I've heard in a long time:

TMBG-"Flood"

I'd also like to bring to the table Pearl Jam's "Ten" and Green Day's "Dookie" as good "flow" albums that also completely rock.

[Praeserpium Machinarum]

The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium - Cicatriz esp

Too long, too jammy, too forgetable. The rest of the album is ace though and I will fight anyone with a Rambo knife who dare say otherwise

[Thrillho]

GAH!

Worse than Obla-Di-Obla-Blah

That's not true. At least it's about something, and is an ironic murder-ballad.

I think "Flying" from the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour is another weak track. I mean, it's nice, but it's probably for the best that it was one of the only instrumentals the Fab Four ever did.

That doesn't count, because the aim of this is to establish great albums with one shit track.

Magical Mystery Tour is almost entirely cack.

The Beatles - Sgt Peppers - Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds:

I actually heard a version of this that didn't totally suck on the radio at work a few years ago. I know it exists. It was awesome. The album version just makes me want to punch people. I dont know where the other version was from. Anyone know about this? Am I crazy?

Also, maybe I'm just weird, but my favorite tracks on Abbey Road are Come Together, Octopusses Garden, and Maxwell Silver Hammer. Just putting that out there, for you jive suckahs.

I never really liked Lucy either. There's a lot on Sergeant Pepper and The White Album that I'm not too fond of, yet people are always wanking over them.

The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium - Cicatriz esp

Too long, too jammy, too forgetable. The rest of the album is ace though and I will fight anyone with a Rambo knife who dare say otherwise

I have to say, though, if they took out the jammy parts, I think the chorus bit is really good. If they cut out the middle section, then it'd be a great track.

[Omnicide]

Actually, talking about Mars Volta, if you edited all of the white-noise filler out of Frances the Mute it'd probably be an excellent album.

Hmm...flawless flow albums...

Beastie Boys- Paul's Boutique
Curtis Mayfield- Superfly
Iggy & The Stooges- Fun House
Jimi Hendrix- Electric Ladyland
Miles Davis- Kind Of Blue

that's all I've got right now.

[Thrillho]

Actually, talking about Mars Volta, if you edited all of the white-noise filler out of Frances the Mute it'd probably be an excellent album.

Absolutely. It's perfectly realised as far as they're concerned, but without the white noise it would be a true classic.

[mberan42]

And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.

[Thrillho]

And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.

Who is the 'you' of 'your'?

[Zaarin]

And now I've got something, wait for it, controversial. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon, "Money". I consider this one to be the album's worst track. It just breaks the flow that the previous tracks had so well established.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on this.

Don't get me wrong. I love "Money" as a song, but I think it's placement on Dark Side was a bit of a mistake. You go from this ethereal, spacy type affair to the clinking of cash registers. It just sort of ruins the experience a bit, if you understand me.

[alyosha]

"Money" has my respect for being the only popular song in 7/8 time.  Hence, I'd even say that it's purpose is to NOT fit in with the rest of the somewhat mellow, 4/4 time of most of "Dark Side"  I agree it doesn't fit, but, as could be said of the band itself, its purpose is to NOT fit in...

[Praeserpium Machinarum]

I have to say, though, if they took out the jammy parts, I think the chorus bit is really good. If they cut out the middle section, then it'd be a great track.

Yep and it is like that on a lot of their tracks, except Take the Veil, Cerpin Taxt. There it seems to work for some odd reason.
I never really listened that much to Frances the Mute, though I will say that The Widow is perhaps the most "straight" song Mars Volta has ever done.

Oh and I thought of one more:

Sonic Youth - EVOL - Bubblegum

The deathpan delivery saves it but essentially it cancels out the impact of Madonna, Sean and Me(aka. Expressway to Yr. Skull).
Which would have been the perfect closer since it is so grand and majestic.

[onewheelwizzard]

"Octopus's Garden" and "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" are two of the sweetest, most utterly delicious pieces of musical candy that exist.  They're not particularly incredible songs in the same fashion as, say, "Tomorrow Never Knows," but they're so bouncy and fun and playful that I won't raise a child without giving him or her these songs to dance to in preschool.

If Abbey Road has a lackluster track, it's definitely "Sun King."  Everything should've just picked right up and started rolling without a break after "Because" and the extra slow track was unnecessary and breaks the flow.

[mberan42]

Who is the 'you' of 'your'?

I'd intended it for Zaarin, as he originally said what I questioned, but it was / is open for all.

[KharBevNor]

Danzig - Danzig II: Lucifuge - Blood and Tears

Could have been maybe the best album of Glenn Danzigs whole damn career, then he puts what very well could be a Procul Harem song on it. Not that I dislike Procul Harem, but what?

Black Sabbath - Paranoid - Planet Caravan

Planet Caravan ain't a bad song, but what the hell is it doing on an album as heavy as this? Think about it for a moment, if this song wasn't there, we'd have the following flow of songs:

War Pigs
Paranoid
Iron Man
Electric Funeral
Hand Of Doom

I've taken drugs less awesome than that.

Current 93 - All The Pretty Little Horses - Twilight Twilight Nihil Nihil

I'll spare this song a lot of grief, as the (completely) different version of it they used to start Cats Drunk on Copper is absolutely amazing. However, the original is just eight and a half minutes of post-industrial masturbation sitting in the middle of a great neo-folk album.

Edge of Sanity - Purgatory Afterglow - Song of Sirens

Edge of Sanitys worst track ever. This includes the hardcore punk song they wrote and recorded in one evening all smashed on vodka, their Police cover, and the techno remix of Angels of Distress.

[BeoPuppy]

Experimental is fine, but just plain stupid stuff to link plot is not.  Good operas have very few stupid bits just for the sake of plot, concept albums should be the same, damnit.  If you can't come up with a good song to say what you want to say, then don't do the goddamned concept album.  Queensryche, I'm looking at you and "Suite Sister Mary."  God damn I dislike that song.  It sounds like an Andrew Lloyd Webber song.

Disagree. Strongly. I think Suite Sister Mary is perfect and way better than Andrew ever was. I feel it's needed and that it belongs.

But, from the same year and another concept album:

Iron Maiden: 7th son of a 7th son ... Can I play with madness. What is that 'written for single' thingy doing on such an awesome album? It feels a lot like having an ABBA song in the middle of Kill 'Em All. It's just wrong ...

[Thrillho]

"Money" has my respect for being the only popular song in 7/8 time.  Hence, I'd even say that it's purpose is to NOT fit in with the rest of the somewhat mellow, 4/4 time of most of "Dark Side"  I agree it doesn't fit, but, as could be said of the band itself, its purpose is to NOT fit in...

Money is in 7/4, and I think Eclipse is actually in 6/8.

Not on Dark Side, but in the Floyd catalogue in general, 6/8 is at least as equally used as 4/4.

And there's a song on the new Hundred Reasons album where the chorus is in 7/8, though the verse is 4/4.

Plus, getting back to the Beatles, Love Is All You Need is in 7/8...

[Merkava]

Transatlanticism without "Passenger Seat", or the long ending of "We Looked Like Giants".

It seems like every Death Cab album has that ONE song with the unneeded two minute breakdown.

Disagree completely. What would make the album great would be getting rid of Sound of Settling. That song sucks and ruins the beautiful melancholy of the album.

I think The Dears No Cities Left would be awesome without Lost in the Plot.

[PhunkieBehaveYer]

The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."

[drpepper_phd]

The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."

Seconded.

I also think that The New Pornographer's Twin Cinema would be much, MUCH better without "Three or Four." I can only stand hearing "Three or four hourglass" so many times before I kick a dog.

[Merkava]

The only thing that could make Illinois any better would be getting rid of "The Seer's Tower."

Are you kidding? That had some beautiful vocal work. It gives me chills each time I listen to it. What song could be removed is that last track. Boring, no point, just...bleh. I usually skip through the instrumentals anyway, but I shouldn't skip over a closer.

I think the last 3/4 of Lounge (Closing Time) by Modest Mouse is the only weak moment on Lonesome. I think if they had taken that out and replaced it with more of that beginning, the album wouldn't loose any momentum until when it should, at Trucker's Atlas.  

Oh, and Moon and Antarctica should have Different City, Wild Pack of Family Dogs, and Tiny Cities in favor of some tracks from Nasty Parlour Tricks. I would have preferred hearing Night on the Sun, Here it Comes, or You're the Good Things to those blah tracks.