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indiansteve

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« on: 28 Apr 2006, 20:20 »

Yeah well I guess someone has changed the password on my sisters computer and I was wondering if there is any way of getting it back. I know there is something like deleting everything and starting new but she lost all her cd's that help her with that. So anything?





I feel stupid now. :-(
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« Reply #1 on: 28 Apr 2006, 21:15 »

What password are you talking about? I bet I use about 10 passwords a day when working on the computer, so um...which one?
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indiansteve

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« Reply #2 on: 28 Apr 2006, 21:21 »

The Log On password. Someone changed it.
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« Reply #3 on: 28 Apr 2006, 22:33 »

I'm not too sure about the cure beyond a reinstall (I don't use Windows a lot), but prevention of the problem is better. When you do get access again, set up another Admin account for yourself, and password protect it so that no one else knows it. That way, even when this happens, you've got a side door to get in and fix things.
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« Reply #4 on: 28 Apr 2006, 22:44 »

What operating system? I know how to get around this on OSX...
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indiansteve

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« Reply #5 on: 29 Apr 2006, 09:49 »

It's XP.
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Alegis

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« Reply #6 on: 29 Apr 2006, 10:22 »

Reinstall means format if you don't know the current pass.

Try this :

http://www.loginrecovery.com/index.html

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Login Recovery is a service to reveal user names and recover passwords for Windows NT, 2000, XP, 2003 and Longhorn. As long as you have physical access to the computer, your passwords can be recovered


or this link I found as well :

http://itt.theintegrity.net/pmwiki.php?n=ITT.XPPasswordRecovery
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indiansteve

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« Reply #7 on: 29 Apr 2006, 13:18 »

Neither of those ways worked for me.
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« Reply #8 on: 29 Apr 2006, 13:51 »

Find out who it was that changed the password. Ask them to give you it then change it back.

If they won't beat them. If they just typed in a bunch of random letters/numbers and don't actually know the password (Or do you have to confirm the password when creating it?!? I don't use a password so I dunno) beat them more and make them sit and puinch random combinations of numbers/letters in till you get back into your computer. That could take them years. They probably deserved it.
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« Reply #9 on: 29 Apr 2006, 14:47 »

Quote from: indiansteve
Neither of those ways worked for me.

Then you'll have to retrieve the pass from the perpetrators, like Nolaw suggested. Or lose data.

Surprises me they don't work : |
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indiansteve

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« Reply #10 on: 30 Apr 2006, 08:19 »

Ok I'll take your guys last option. I didn't to do it but I guess I have to put on the ol pussy kicking boots again.
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indiansteve

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« Reply #11 on: 30 Apr 2006, 13:40 »

My friend also had the idea of removing the battery of the computer to let it reset or something but that didn't work either....and for beating up the person that suposedly changed it didn't work either. I got in trouble.
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« Reply #12 on: 30 Apr 2006, 13:57 »

The program you need is called @stake LC4, it can find passwords in seconds. annoyingly symantec bought and scrapped it, but you can still get it from here:
http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_ls_getfile_v1_15861461.html?t=1146430375&v=3600&s=c2c24f57830cb5c4de0f531b069af20a
just run it on another administrator account and it should find it. the trial doesnt have the brute force attack, but it should still get it.
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« Reply #13 on: 30 Apr 2006, 16:53 »

Quote from: indiansteve
My friend also had the idea of removing the battery of the computer to let it reset or something but that didn't work either....and for beating up the person that suposedly changed it didn't work either. I got in trouble.


That'll only reset passwords stored on your CPU (not passwords associated with XP). Taking the battery out is only effective on old computers with boot-processes that are completely unrelated to the OS you're using.
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« Reply #14 on: 03 May 2006, 04:54 »

First of all if you are running xp home you can some times start up in safe mode.  (F8 when the computer is booting) and then login using the administrator account and reset the other computer password.

This site seems like it will have some stuff.
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

Another option is saminside.  It does a pretty good job of cracking passwords.  The only trouble is the free version only does a brute force attack using the alphebet.

http://www.insidepro.com/eng/saminside.shtml

I have saminside running off a boot able XP cd so I can boot off the CD and crack passwords.  I made it using Bartpe builder.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Xp passwords are easy to crack because in most cases they have somthing called LM hashes enabled.  The LM hashes are some other hold over from older os's.  They split up the passwords into 7 character segments and turns everything into uppercase.  So having a password over 7 charaters doesn't make it more secure and mixing upper and lower case doesn't either.  It helps for other systems but not for XP with the LM hashes turned on.  You can turn them off but you have to stuff with regedit.

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« Reply #15 on: 03 May 2006, 05:01 »

Can you make an administrator account and change the password from there? Or at least open up permissions so you can salvage what you're after.
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« Reply #16 on: 03 May 2006, 08:05 »

You guys all fucking suck.

Seriously.

Download the ISO from here: http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
Burn it to a CD.
Boot from the CD.
Set the account to have a blank password.
Done.
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« Reply #17 on: 03 May 2006, 18:45 »

I suck because I posted the same link you did?  As well as some other useful links.

Yes the other people who said pull the battery suck.

Eric
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« Reply #18 on: 03 May 2006, 19:51 »

You all suck because you guys weren't useful!  Seriously.  You posted the same link, but I actually SAID to use it, not said "helpful information may be found here."  So HA.  More points for me!

Also, I've fixed the password using that method, and it works quite well.
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