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« on: 04 May 2006, 05:30 »
Starwars.com has a story up confirming that the original versions of episodes 4, 5, and 6 are gonna be released on dvd in september.

No more hayden christenson, no more cgi jabba, han will shoot first, the return of the original ewoks song!

However it means lining george lucas's pockets once more...

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html
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« Reply #1 on: 04 May 2006, 15:31 »
I didn't think Lucas would do it, but I guess the lure of the dollar was too strong. Honestly, I thought they would have to pry the original versions from Georgie-boy's cold, dead hands.

This is good news! I avoided the remastered version DVDs, but I will definitely be picking up these.
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« Reply #2 on: 04 May 2006, 15:46 »
I was pretty sure they'd do it eventually, too many people were asking for it for them not to.  Good thing I didn't get the fucked-with versions.
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« Reply #3 on: 04 May 2006, 19:14 »
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No more hayden christenson, no more cgi jabba, han will shoot first, the return of the original ewoks song!


yay! because the remastering = crap!

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However it means lining george lucas's pockets once more...


boo. because george lucas is dumb.
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« Reply #4 on: 05 May 2006, 00:48 »
george lucas isn't dumb, he's brilliant! he's gotten people to purchase the same three movies three times now! (once on vhs, once on the fuckered dvds, and now again on the fixed ones)
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« Reply #5 on: 05 May 2006, 01:11 »
Yep. The ultimate way to make people triple dip.

Luckily, I've never bother to buy the Special Editions or DVDs, so I'm ready for these with open arms!
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« Reply #6 on: 05 May 2006, 03:11 »
Don't get too excited yet.  The original theatrical cuts are not being remastered for DVD - they have Dolby 2.0 sound instead of the Dolby 5.1 on the Special Editions.
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« Reply #7 on: 05 May 2006, 05:09 »
Maybe its me but I won't buy them.
I may 'get' a copy but I won't buy them.
I'm done giving that bastard my money for the same movies.  I  have 4 copies of the movies, 3 just on VHS because of the different versions.  
I can always watch them on VHS and wonder why I thought they were cool back in the day.  :)
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« Reply #8 on: 05 May 2006, 07:52 »
Let me get this straight ...

You love the movies, you like the universe, yet you despise the creator as it will earn him more money. Is your money holy? He created an awesome product wich you desire yet you reluctantly wish to pay him for it.

He wants to fiddle a bit with the movies he created, to match his fantasy. Yet a lot of people disagree and want the pure originals. It is released, and then people complain he's just in it for the money, exploiting his ideals.

He never forced you to buy anything previously. They're additional products available to those who want em. Not satisfied ? Forget Star Wars and keep your hallowed cash.

But I digress. It's nice that they're available now, and I hope those interested will enjoy them.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 May 2006, 08:56 »
I know that nobody is forcing me to buy this, and I understand that a director has a right to go back and edit his works to acheive what his vision of the piece is.

I only complain because up to know George Lucas always said that the edited versions were the definitive versions of the film and for that reason he would never realise the original edits. So I like many people bought the dvds of the edited versions when they came out thinking, "Well it's not the version I wasted many afternoons as a child watching but it's as close as I'm likely to get". Now just over a year later he IS realising the version I wanted all along, but only packaged with the edited version, so in order to get the thing I always wanted I have to buy something I already have.


God reading back over that I sound like such a whinging nerd, but I'm too lazy to edit it to make myself sound less-so
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« Reply #10 on: 05 May 2006, 09:23 »
When Lucas said that the only versions that he would release on DVD would be the "edited" versions I said that I wouldn't be purchasing them b/c I wanted the original ones.  Now that they are coming out I will buy them because they have what I want.  The fact that they come with the edited ones is annoying but since I don't already own them I won't complain.

Though I wish he'd release the entire series (including the clone wars cartoons, and the unedited originals) as a nice boxed set.
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« Reply #11 on: 05 May 2006, 12:15 »
he probably will one day, after many people have bought these.

no, he's dumb. the newer trilogy could have been so much better. esp 3. someone else should have done the dialogue. he's not dumb for making more money. that's quite brilliant, because only selling the edited movies was pissing people off. like me. i like my ewok song...
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« Reply #12 on: 05 May 2006, 12:56 »
So this is basically Star Wars but with dreadful special effects?

How much am I paying for this?
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« Reply #13 on: 05 May 2006, 18:18 »
Astaldo: If you prefer your cold, hard technology to things which actually exist, then don't buy it. Alegis rather cunningly outlined capitalism earlier; however, you don't have to participate.
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« Reply #14 on: 05 May 2006, 19:17 »
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the return of the original ewoks song!







OH FUCK YEAH!!
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« Reply #15 on: 06 May 2006, 06:15 »
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Let me get this straight ...

You love the movies, you like the universe, yet you despise the creator as it will earn him more money. Is your money holy? He created an awesome product wich you desire yet you reluctantly wish to pay him for it.

Yes, my money is holy.  I love the universe, and like the movies.  I hate George Lucas for making into "OMGSTARZWARZRULEZ" with the first two shitty episodes.  I also would like to pummel him for redoing the movies in his 'vision' when he didn't need to do anything to them.  You may not agree but his 'redos' were mostly crap.

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He wants to fiddle a bit with the movies he created, to match his fantasy. Yet a lot of people disagree and want the pure originals. It is released, and then people complain he's just in it for the money, exploiting his ideals.


For the record I never wanted the originals on DVD.  Especially after having bought the redos so I can have them on DVD.  Why?  Because the VHS versions I have are in delicate shape.  If I want to see the originals I just ignore the redone scenes and use my memory.

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He never forced you to buy anything previously. They're additional products available to those who want em. Not satisfied ? Forget Star Wars and keep your hallowed cash.


This isn't quite true since my love of the universe made me buy them.  Regardless of my feeling toward Lucas now, when I was young he was awesome.  Before he crapped all over the universe with JarJar and company.

That said, I think anytime Star Wars is discussed you its almost like religion or politics.  Noone is going to change anyones elses mind about the evil that is Lucas! LOL
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« Reply #16 on: 07 May 2006, 00:02 »
Oh but politics is an important theme of the series.

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So this is basically Star Wars but with dreadful special effects?

How much am I paying for this?


Actually, the theatrical version comes as a bonus. Each movie is 2 discs.

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Price tag unknown yet.
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« Reply #17 on: 07 May 2006, 14:45 »
They said I was mad when I refused to buy the remastered trilogy when they were released on DVD! They called me a fool for not accepting anything but the original versions! Now who's laughing?

Bwahahaha!!
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« Reply #18 on: 07 May 2006, 15:26 »
haha, I liked that post. ^

I also didn't buy it because I hoped he would come out with the original on DVD anyway, plus I didn't want to own the new crap, ewwww.

I'm glad he is coming out with it though. He could have been a loser and be all "THIS IS MY TRUE ARTISTIC VISION"
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« Reply #19 on: 08 May 2006, 08:54 »
I too stayed free of the remastered DVDs.  I'm not sure I'll even pick up these ones though.  I think I may hold out until we get the complete six movie collection.  I don't care how lame the prequel trilogy may be.  I just want a big ass box!
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« Reply #20 on: 08 May 2006, 13:05 »
I'd want a 9 box set.

As in original versions of 4, 5, 6. Re-mastered versions of 4, 5, 6 & eps 1, 2, 3.

I'd settle for it without 1, 2, & 3.
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« Reply #21 on: 08 May 2006, 13:08 »
hey, maybe he'll remaster the prequels and actually improve them?  then a 12-movie set is in order!
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« Reply #22 on: 08 May 2006, 18:27 »
At least he can't make 7, 8, and 9 like he used to talk about...
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« Reply #23 on: 08 May 2006, 18:42 »
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I understand that a director has a right to go back and edit his works to acheive what his vision of the piece is.

I disagree!

I think that once an artistic work has been released to the public it becomes - in a way - public property. This is especially true with all the ridiculous popularity that the Star Wars trilogy has.

I would argue that Lucas really had no right to add and delete bits from the original movies. Of course the law disagrees with me here, but…

edit: spelling.
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« Reply #24 on: 09 May 2006, 00:07 »
I don't mind what they did with Indiana Jones, tweaking the sound and making the print a great deal cleaner, but yeah, adding scenes and updating special effects is essentially memory rape to me. It's like the difference between remastering an album, and going back to completely redo all the tracks you felt weren't upto par and then remixing it.

I mean, every artist wants to go back and fix mistakes he made, but once you put it out there and say "This is my work of art", I don't think you have the right to change it.
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« Reply #25 on: 09 May 2006, 03:02 »
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I don't mind what they did with Indiana Jones, tweaking the sound and making the print a great deal cleaner, but yeah, adding scenes and updating special effects is essentially memory rape to me.


If what they did to Blade Runner is memory rape, then the bitches love it.  They wanted it, really.
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« Reply #26 on: 23 May 2006, 00:24 »
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No more hayden christenson,


Where is Hayden Christenson in these movies?
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« Reply #27 on: 23 May 2006, 08:06 »
at the end of return of the jedi, when luke sees the images of yoda, obi-wan, and anakin. they replaced sebastian shaw with hayden christensen.
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« Reply #28 on: 24 May 2006, 17:32 »
that sickened me.

watching the originals is so much more satisfying ... part of the fun of it is noticing that when Luke and 'Ben' Canobe are in the sand cruiser (?) that there is a pink streak under it!
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