Topic: Justin Timberlake's comments about his new album/song (Read 40650 times)

Not An Addict · « **Reply #50 on:** 10 Jul 2006, 22:44 »

"Rhythm and Blues" is itself an outdated term, anyway. Record companies thought it up as a shorthand for "black music" back in the '50s. So yes, much of modern R&B has little to do with blues, but that's a reflection on the genre's terminology, not the music itself.

Johnny C · « **Reply #51 on:** 10 Jul 2006, 23:56 »

If I haven't misunderstood, the "B" in "R&B" is "Bass" now.

EDIT: And the name of Justin's album is - I shit you not - FutureSex/LoveSounds. That's garbage, right there.

Kai · « **Reply #52 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 08:00 »

FUTURESEX: SEX WITH PHASERS

Thrillho · « **Reply #53 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 09:13 »

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I never understand this. Are you genuinely ignorant to the modern definition of 'R and B' or do you just choose to ignore it out of spite? Because either way, you lose.

I don't remember the part where I raped your dog. Please explain to me when this happened so I can rectify it. I said I don't hear much of the blues inspiration in much popular R&B these days. I did not call you a twat. So, please calm down before replying next time. K?

I have taken classes on jazz history. I am Ken Burns' bitch. When I define rythem and blues, I define it just as that.

So the answer is 'yes, I do not know the modern definition of R'n'B', that being 'Rhythm and Bass,' which just about every rap/hip hop/R AND B song has had since its inception.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #54 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 09:17 »

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The Justified album cover was a timely and searing indigtment of the Iraq War. Timberlake, standing in a desert (Iraq, perhaps?), gazes at us, questioning, pondering: "Was this war Justified?"

Will his new album cover be as audatious?

...

BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #55 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 09:19 »

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I never understand this. Are you genuinely ignorant to the modern definition of 'R and B' or do you just choose to ignore it out of spite? Because either way, you lose.

I don't remember the part where I raped your dog. Please explain to me when this happened so I can rectify it. I said I don't hear much of the blues inspiration in much popular R&B these days. I did not call you a twat. So, please calm down before replying next time. K?

I have taken classes on jazz history. I am Ken Burns' bitch. When I define rythem and blues, I define it just as that.

So the answer is 'yes, I do not know the modern definition of R'n'B', that being 'Rhythm and Bass,' which just about every rap/hip hop/R AND B song has had since its inception.

"RHYTHM AND BASS" CAN CHEW ON MY TAINT. it's rhythm n' blues. it always has been since the beginning of time, and i will never see it as anything BUT rhythm. and fucking. blues.

Thrillho · « **Reply #56 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 09:21 »

Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #57 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 09:35 »

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Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.

for the most part, with the friends i have, that's not really true. i understand what you're saying, and respect your input, but i just refuse to see those type of singers as "r & b" even if the letters don't mean the same anymore. i just see it as pop. meh.

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #58 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 10:10 »

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Why are we wasting so much time talking about something as awful as Justin Timberlake?

Guys, we could have put this time to use saving the planet.

But no.

Justin Timberlake.

Maybe we can use him to stuff the hole in the ozone layer?

Thrillho · « **Reply #59 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 13:41 »

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Quote from: DynamiteKid
Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.
for the most part, with the friends i have, that's not really true. i understand what you're saying, and respect your input, but i just refuse to see those type of singers as "r & b" even if the letters don't mean the same anymore. i just see it as pop. meh.

Your friends are the exception, not the rule.

How you classify the music itself, of course, is down to you.

Gryff · « **Reply #60 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 15:07 »

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And the name of Justin's album is - I shit you not - FutureSex/LoveSounds. That's garbage, right there.

How much does he wish he was Prince? Or Andre 3000... No, actually, Andre 3000 wishes he was Prince too, so yeah.

sjbrot · « **Reply #61 on:** 11 Jul 2006, 19:30 »

FutureSex/LoveSounds is going to be a double/split album in the same vein as Speakerboxx/The Love Below, with Justin sharing time with... himself.

Johnny C · « **Reply #62 on:** 12 Jul 2006, 01:17 »

One disc will be fifty minutes of genre-busting pop songs, the other will be fifty minutes of Justin being a pretentious twat.

vivouk · « **Reply #63 on:** 12 Jul 2006, 11:48 »

It's all about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Neptunes

The new single is rubbish.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #64 on:** 12 Jul 2006, 13:25 »

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Quote from: DynamiteKid
Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.
for the most part, with the friends i have, that's not really true. i understand what you're saying, and respect your input, but i just refuse to see those type of singers as "r & b" even if the letters don't mean the same anymore. i just see it as pop. meh.

Your friends are the exception, not the rule.

How you classify the music itself, of course, is down to you.

well without some of the friends i have and have had, i would not know jack shit about r&b.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #65 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 07:50 »

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bill, there's no need to quote quotes.
an edited sentence will do.

thanks a lot.

why would i edit something i've said, after someone already replied to what i said? that would make that person out to be crazy or something.

Thrillho · « **Reply #66 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 12:25 »

Without aiming to be offensive, I'm not sure how your friends teaching you about R and B is relevant.

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #67 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 12:32 »

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Without aiming to be offensive, I'm not sure how your friends teaching you about R and B is relevant.

they didn't teach me about r&b. i learned through a lot of different things, but it helps when you have friends who have lived in the days where r&b meant rhythm&blues.

Thrillho · « **Reply #68 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 12:35 »

Good, I'm glad, but what does it have to do with the modern definition?

BillyxRansom · « **Reply #69 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 13:36 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid

Good, I'm glad, but what does it have to do with the modern definition?

nothing. and that's my point. i refuse to acknowledge what is being played these days, as "r&b". even if the abbreviations are meant to mean different words nowadays.

Gryff · « **Reply #70 on:** 13 Jul 2006, 16:51 »

"ARGUMENTS"

Thrillho · « **Reply #71 on:** 14 Jul 2006, 08:10 »

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Quote from: DynamiteKid
Good, I'm glad, but what does it have to do with the modern definition?
nothing. and that's my point. i refuse to acknowledge what is being played these days, as "r&b". even if the abbreviations are meant to mean different words nowadays.

Right. Well that's a little bit futile really.

sjbrot · « **Reply #72 on:** 14 Jul 2006, 16:08 »

It's kinda like when a grandparent refuses to acknowledge that rap is actually music.

Sythe · « **Reply #73 on:** 14 Jul 2006, 22:56 »

Support for Justin Timberlake on a heavily indie influenced messageboard.
GUYZ WE ARE ELITISTS, NOT POST-POST ELITISTS. WHERE IS YOUR CONTEMPT, PEOPLE?!

Spartan Pho3nix · « **Reply #74 on:** 28 Jul 2006, 13:00 »

I think my comments

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(For reference, AFX claims to have no musical influences and CYHSY still (afaik) haven't admitted in any interview that the Talking Heads were an influence.)

were heavily misconstrued.

Just as note, I really respect Aphex Twin and CYHSY. But I know they're full of shit when they say they have no influences.

My point was ONLY that Timberlake (in an eternal quest to be taken seriously) went and named a bunch (seriously, a bunch) of respected and well known groups as "influences," in an attempt to make people think 'Wow! He relates to David Bowie! He must be a good pop star!'

You shouldn't have to rattle off a list of "influences" to make people appreciate your music and take you seriously as an artist. Instead just release a good fricken album and let people judge it for themselves (which is why I cited the other two bands).

Merkava · « **Reply #75 on:** 28 Jul 2006, 15:56 »

Assigning people imagined motives FTW

SailorPunk · « **Reply #76 on:** 28 Jul 2006, 15:59 »

*raises hand sheepishly* i like justin timberlake...and shakira......guys? guys??

Sythe · « **Reply #77 on:** 28 Jul 2006, 20:32 »

I forgive you.

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #78 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 01:23 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid

Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.

I had actually never heard that either, and still associated the acronym with R. and Blues. But, that definition makes a whole hell of a lot more sense for that current phase of music, so hencefourth I will associate it with that definition.

Side note this is the most ridiculous thread ever. Justin Timberlake's last album is great and if you're still bitter because he was in a silly boy band at one point (which it sounds like most of the active posters of this thread are), you should sit down.

Spartan Pho3nix · « **Reply #79 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 02:12 »

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Justin Timberlake's last album is great

So you support the iraq war too?

TheCourtJester · « **Reply #80 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 03:22 »

So wait...the same forum of people who chewed peoples asses out for liking Modest Mouse is defending Timberlake?

Jesus tap-dancing christ, what forum are we on?

OK, I get it...So being a hipster is way too popular now, so the former "hipsters" are migrating to the pre-packaged, watered-down, censored, unsubstantial excrement of the music industry so as to be super-edgy...right?

OK OK NOW I GET IT HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE IS A TALENTED MUSICIAN.

No...seriously guys, fucking Justin Timberlake?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #81 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 05:02 »

Oh Gods, I know. All this post-ironic bullshit is getting...tiring.

ALoveSupreme · « **Reply #82 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 11:47 »

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So you support the iraq war too?

Maybe great was a poor choice of words.

All the same, it's not irony or any other equally played out word to describe when someone enjoys something outside of their subculture they find themselves in. I don't see why I or anyone else can't like wannabe Michael Jackson pop-rock. This smacks of freshman year of high school when no one can like anything but what their friends like. I would hope most of us have been done with that for at least 5 or six years by now, if not eight. Pathetic.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #83 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 12:55 »

I don't think thats what people are saying. I think they are saying that, in a world full of music as varied and wonderful as a cellar of fine vintage wines, why are you outside on a park bench drinking clear cider.

timehat · « **Reply #84 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 13:57 »

Beautiful.

Merkava · « **Reply #85 on:** 29 Jul 2006, 15:47 »

That's sig material right there.

But Kai's stays, unfortunately.

sjbrot · « **Reply #86 on:** 30 Jul 2006, 23:03 »

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I don't think thats what people are saying. I think they are saying that, in a world full of music as varied and wonderful as a cellar of fine vintage wines, why are you outside on a park bench drinking clear cider.

Ain't no problem in admitting it doesn't taste half bad at times.

And plus, it's so much cheaper and easier to find. Which is how many take their alchohol.

Aneurhythmia · « **Reply #87 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 01:11 »

Quote from: TheCourtJester

So wait...the same forum of people who chewed peoples asses out for liking Modest Mouse is defending Timberlake?

Jesus tap-dancing christ, what forum are we on?

OK, I get it...So being a hipster is way too popular now, so the former "hipsters" are migrating to the pre-packaged, watered-down, censored, unsubstantial excrement of the music industry so as to be super-edgy...right?

OK OK NOW I GET IT HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE IS A TALENTED MUSICIAN.

No...seriously guys, fucking Justin Timberlake?

See the awesome thing is that interaction and association among a group of individuals doesn't require a regulated collective consciousness.

The Eyeball Kid · « **Reply #88 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 07:07 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid

Hey, I'm not saying it's right or that I appreciate it. But the fact of the matter is, when you say 'R 'n' B' in 2006, rhythm and bass is what just about everyone will think you mean whether you do or not.

I live in the past.
Its rhythem and blues. I dunno what people listen to these days, so i know it bears little relation to what was originally called 'r 'n b', but thats the definiton i knew. Rock and roll before it was called rock and roll

The Eyeball Kid · « **Reply #89 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 07:10 »

And its ok to like Justin Timberlake because both Pitchfork and the New York Times said so

Not An Addict · « **Reply #90 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 09:15 »

Seriously, I don't know anyone who thinks R&B means "rhythm and bass". Who made that up? And isn't "rhythm and bass" a redundancy? Bass is part of the rhythm.

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And its ok to like Justin Timberlake because both Pitchfork and the New York Times said so

Which is exactly what I told myself when I downloaded "Like I Love You" the other day. [Sigh.]

Mattie · « **Reply #91 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 12:11 »

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So wait...the same forum of people who chewed peoples asses out for liking Modest Mouse is defending Timberlake?

I like both.

::shrug::

KharBevNor · « **Reply #92 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 14:05 »

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I don't think thats what people are saying. I think they are saying that, in a world full of music as varied and wonderful as a cellar of fine vintage wines, why are you outside on a park bench drinking clear cider.

Ain't no problem in admitting it doesn't taste half bad at times.

And plus, it's so much cheaper and easier to find. Which is how many take their alchohol.

...you like White Cider?

We need Sp2 back here to bust all your asses.

jcknbl · « **Reply #93 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 15:37 »

Timbaland has produced some of the best songs in the past 5 years. It is in no way surprising, wrong or post-ironic that a lot of people who generally avoid mainstream radio music like Justin Timberlake's new stuff. All this anti-establishment b.s. going on here is so simplistic it makes me want to cry and its absurd that anyone willing to take a more complex (read: a post-high school) view of the music industry is acused of being inauthentic.

Gryff · « **Reply #94 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 15:57 »

Thank you, jcknbl. Now everyone else stop being penises, please.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #95 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 16:09 »

Fuck inauthenticity. Iron Maiden have probably sold more albums over their career than this guy.

It's just shallow vapid shit for 13 year old girls. It could have been recorded on a twenty quid karaoke machine in his mums basement and distributed on a cassette-only label run by a commune of anarcho-syndicalist lesbian freedom fighters who only advertise through culture-jamming graffiti and personal endorsements from Sub-Comandante Marcos and it would still be shallow vapid shit for 13 year old girls.

Gryff · « **Reply #96 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 16:21 »

Who says it's not shallow and vapid? I just wanna dance like there's ass in my pants.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #97 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 16:34 »

I generally find myself stabbing myself in the ears too much to dance.

Seriously, how can you even stand his voice? It's bearly barable in the new single with all that distortion on it. Also, where are the 'wicked beats' or whatever? I, you, or anyone could do the drums and bassline to that in Fruityloops in about half an hour, counting render time. It's commercial shite. Even dancing to it at a shite club validates its shite existence.

TheCourtJester · « **Reply #98 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 16:48 »

"Do you sleep with 12 year olds? Then why do you listen to their music?"

www.youhavebadtasteinmusic.com

If you had an interest in real dance music...You'd know Foggy, Outfly, Ferry Corsten, 4 Strings, Armin Can Buuren, Iio, DJ Micro, Motorcycle, Kate Ryan, Lazard, Lost Tribe, Metric, Kira, KMC, Pepe, Divine Inspiration.

Mainstream or obscure, easy-to-find or rare and expensive, mutt or pure-bred, dog poop is still dog poop.

Mattie · « **Reply #99 on:** 31 Jul 2006, 19:50 »

For the record:

It often gets very tiring reading comments by people so hung up on pretentions that they feel that their opinions are somehow more validated than other people's. Nothing constructive is offered; s/he simply tears it down.

If it's not your thing, that's fine. But there's no reason to flatly insult it. While some people find it vapid and simple (without stating their reasons), other people just think it's fun. Music doesn't have to be groundbreaking, it doesn't have to have hidden depths of meaning, it doesn't have to be decoded or deciphered. Sometimes it can just be fun.

[As an aside, just because you think the record is simple doesn't mean much. I could record a noise rock record or a metal album in one afternoon just as easily as I could make some beats in Fruityloops, and I'll be willing to bet that you guys would eat up my noise or metal while still shunning truly good pop music.]

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